pvp

[teal hedge]

I run vers > crit > haste

[muted surge]

Forget the mastery comment

Mastery just increases our damage against targets with deep wounds

[teal hedge]

I know it's modified by mastery :P

Hmmm, I'll try giving skullsplitter a go

Just gotta work on dat opener

Otherwise it's more of a combo/finisher move, right?

[craggy geyser]

How’s warrior looking for this coming patch 10.1? Nerf? Stay the same? I’m looking forward to getting deep into this class

[lilac musk]

Saw a warrior with 666k HP in SoloShuffle today

I didn't realize we could get that much hp

[wanton sun]

Sure it wasn't a prot warrior? Ive seen a few prot warriors in solo lately

[teal hedge]

Prot

[lean burrow]

Bloodbath <35% hp > Rampage > Bloodbath > Execute > Bloodthirst

I think

[vapid tartan]

Is it bad to parry intervene sr your healer against rmp in opener

[stark reef]

#showtooltip Recklessness
/use 14
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion

You might have to delete either spear or roar depending on what you have skilled

But yeah, onslaught into this is your burst opening

You do not want to insta-cast Odyn's Fury to get max value out of dot

[scarlet sorrel]

dont have to delete. can just do a // to make it commented out

[stark reef]

Oh, I see - I'll try that

[teal hedge]

Wait what

Enemy and teammate both died and we lost???

Wait, both sides lost!

That's so cool

In tank lobbies you really just gotta strap in

And go defensive stance only

[stark reef]

Healers are the worst players in this game by a mile

Every other lobby these apes don't use their CDs

It's insanity

No dome, no link, no bop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJn67Rj9O4&ab_channel=SauceyNoodle

“It’s a 3min CD so I’ll just hold for 5 rounds.”

[stark reef]

What is the interaction of spear of bastion w/ nullifying shroud?

Can I spear an evoker who has it up?

[thick reef]

Rampage (not Enraged)
Execute (35%/Sudden Death)
Bloodbath
Rampage
Bloodthirst

If you got this far and no buttons, slam head into desk

[lean burrow]

they expect you to press buttons first

[stark reef]

Two games out of 6 I get deterrence in opener, hunter literally on a platter but this healer lets the other dps die right in front of him.

If you use avatar (with odyns fury) and then odyns fury the dots don’t extend themselves properly

[magic wing]

I done some fury/DH 2s and its super fun

Games either won or lost in 5 secs

Id say arms sucks without healer, fury is much beafier and the onslaught build pumps

[quaint snow]

tanked from 2250 to 1970 over the past weeks, i lost my mojo

[quaint snow]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[lean burrow]

3s?

[quaint snow]

nah shuffle life dude

rets made this game so disgusting

and retards on bm xD

[lean burrow]

in shuffle 300 mmr is just two lucky lobbies away

[quaint snow]

i know but still its fuckled

[stark reef]

2100 def change of pace

2100 shuffle equals about 1800 in 3s, so it makes sense

[lean burrow]

i got 2400 in shuffle but 1400 in 3s

therefore 2400 shuffle = 1400 3s

[stark reef]

How?!

Who are you playing with

🤣

[lean burrow]

i don't remember

[quaint snow]

was like 1,8 mmr last time i played 3s

[stark reef]

That might be why

🤣

[quaint snow]

so yeah makes sense xD

[stark reef]

3s you can absolutely get turbo-sandbagged

Can also get carried hard so there's that

[quaint snow]

rets just need to be F tier again, its healthy for the game

xD

[stark reef]

Yeah, just had a ret go 6/0 in a meele cleave lobby. Didn't play well myself though

But yeah, still busted

[quaint snow]

dude their toolkit is still insane

the nerfs did not much imo

[stark reef]

But manageable - doesn't feel unbeatable, just overloaded kit now

[quaint snow]

yes they "Can" die

sometimes

[stark reef]

It's just the amount of stuff they have - individually it's all ok, but the fact that they can bop and sac a team-mate whilst also having divine shield is just bs

[quaint snow]

sometimes they just get cds back and roll you over xD

[stark reef]

I now always focus ret - chasing caster w/ freedom or trying to kill meele with bop on top of all other cds is just not happening

[quaint snow]

good strategy tbh

[stark reef]

Frost mage/Demo lock + ret about the worst thing this game has to offer

[quaint snow]

demo lock bm hunter ret for me

xD

my nemesis

[stark reef]

Yeah, forget killing the caster

Not happening

[quaint snow]

screen full of shit

zoocleave

are you using skullsplitter build a lot?

[stark reef]

To my detriment, yes

That's how the ret got 6/0

Imo very situational

I like it to kill a ret or other target that can't kite BUT ONLY if the game doesn't benefit from cleave damage

Meele cleave you have to just do as much damage to everything around you and swap actively

But let's say you're vs. lock/ret, i go sks all in on ret

Goal is to get him out of the fight asap to reduce pressure on team, then win through attrition

That opening burst with sks usually puts rets back on the horse

[quaint snow]

i never played it before

think i need to learn it

[stark reef]

But running it into ret war imo is throwing because max crit with imp sweeping strikes will give you a lot of openings as those games tend to last longer

[quaint snow]

had the most success with roar + Battlemaster torment, but will all the pets not so good anymore

[stark reef]

I try to swap between four builds but it’s a learning curve

Some games it works out really well and others I forget to change something and it feels off

[quaint snow]

yeah i understand you exactly

like you can go the wrong specc

and totally throw

xD

[stark reef]

The way I look at it - to 2100 you can just yolo but after everything matters and whilst you can play one lobby like you’re 2500 you’ll likely play the next like you’re 1800 so it’s about getting those details consistent vs each comp/map

[quaint snow]

whats the best burst rotation for the sks

yeah felt the same at 2250 its imo the details

[stark reef]

Charge, rend, csmash, avatar w/ t-road macro, rend, sks, execute

If people do not react they are dead instantly

[quaint snow]

no mortal strike?

[stark reef]

If I get this combo off I usually ms with sharpen on the target after

But this is the max dps sequence assuming nothing else happens - obviously people will cc you, use stuff, so you adjust

[quaint snow]

yeah but how does the sks give the most value

[stark reef]

Let’s say they pop dome halfway through you just hold whatever you have left of your burst, etc

[quaint snow]

you need dots on more targets?

[stark reef]

No, 1 target, rend twice

[quaint snow]

i see

[stark reef]

So you have double tend + deep wounds from csmash with all CDs running - massive hit

You can technically cleave all this but it’s a hassle and imo this combo is about getting it off smooth, if you get ccd and your tend ticks down half-way you’re just losing value

[quaint snow]

yeah i get it the faster you use sks the faster the dot burst comes in

[stark reef]

It’s those games where the ret is miles ahead of the team, you use all this before team catches up, might have already won by the.

Also, if you can afford to go avatar with reck it gives you a really deadly cmash window every time

Since you get reck with it, you set up your double rend and sks with reck, really hits hard

Very nice if locks blow everything in opener, then gate, you chase and your cmash comes back up whilst they’re losing their healer

But I’ve lost a lot of games with sks that i would have one with crit

So trying to be more selective

[quaint snow]

how much does skullsplitter hit for?

[stark reef]

Try the combo I gave you on a dummy

That’s your best case scenario

[quaint snow]

im doing it right now

but it feels low im doing smth wrong i guess

[stark reef]

It’s the sks into execute that takes targets from 60% to zero

I can link you some games where I manage to pull it off

[quaint snow]

ahhh i see

7

do you i need more crit for this build?

sks does 32k dmg it says

now it did 64k

tested it on a player now, i think i understand, thanks

[stark reef]

Another shaman unable to link

Went 1/5

What is happening?

This is so bad

He used link once during the game, 2 times on a dead person and didn't use it the remaining games

[quaint snow]

damn son...

[worthy fern]

Sks by itself is avg damage it’s the bleeds ticking that does big dam

Will be several instant ticks of rend and dw on details

[stark reef]

Yeah, after a game with sks rend will be amongst the top 3 dmg sources

[wary heart]

rss is just random

late season ive been having trouble going 4-2

most 3-3

any bracket on any of my warrs

[stark reef]

It's just so infuriating to lose a 3min round because people can't use CD's

I get it, get fked in the opener, happens

But 3min rounds same issue over and over - given, I was winning vs. that guy for the same reasons I was losing with him. Just painful to watch

[wary heart]

im pretty hard stuck 2100 being 2300 earlier in the season after quitting 2 months

cant figure out why

[quaint snow]

also got fucked again im donzo xD

[stark reef]

[lean burrow]

just oneshot mw

he probably will run into melee without placing port

[red igloo]

finally gaining rating

[quaint snow]

GL

[stark reef]

3/1 so far

we're cooking

[quaint snow]

keeeel mage i guess

[teal hedge]

Oh shit

[stark reef]

running sks without unhinged but double bladestorm

[teal hedge]

Fungus needs help

[stark reef]

it's working

[teal hedge]

I need to apply for college

What sounds cooler

Pharmacology or Biomedical Analysis

[stark reef]

Is in, which major?

[quaint snow]

Biomedical Analysis

[stark reef]

Yeah, agreed

[stark reef]

5/1 lobby, sks with roar but double bladestorm for mobility every round

targets were affli lock, mage and a random kill on monk

[quaint snow]

nice 👍

[teal hedge]

These are the majors

I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to every programme considering I took the hardest course available 😎

But I'm gonna deny them, I gotta take a year off studying

Oh wait

Pharmacology is a master's

And Biomedical is a bachelor's

But I'm leaning towards biomedical

[muted surge]

whats up with all the mages doing absolutl 0 damage

all of them are complete shit

[wary heart]

xaryu brain

same as when maldiva releases a new daddy video

[wary heart]

i honestly think spear might be the way to go vs this caster lobby stuff

i might just try it tonight

[muted surge]

heals going 0 : 6 is kinda funny

[teal hedge]

Who pinged me

[muted surge]

@teal hedge

[teal hedge]

Bastard

[muted surge]

3 games, 14 rating gained

that was a good day. big gains

[teal hedge]

I sent in an application for like 5 courses

[woeful solstice]

solo shuffle is so fucking annoying good lord

[magic wing]

the double rend on SKS is a nice tip

[woeful solstice]

[stark reef]

🤣

Did you come in with big mmr from another char or 3s?

[sage raptor]

Man

Where are our pvp talents?

Surely nerfing all of them wasn't a part of the rework

[woeful solstice]

this is my alt warrior

my main was like 2800 in solos at one point before ret bullshit

[stark reef]

I see, yeah, that's where the mmr is from

[unique fox]

Anyone running SKS in actual 3s?

[stark reef]

It's account wide

[woeful solstice]

didnt know mmr was cross character

[woeful solstice]

yes

i run sks almost all games right now in 3s

[unique fox]

Whats your comp? Thinking about giving it a try

[woeful solstice]

i play war/ret/x

prevoker and druid lately

[unique fox]

I play with a disc and could see some hilarious SKS' with dark arch

[woeful solstice]

yeah that can pump

its hard into demo lock with COW empowered

nocrit sks feelsbadman

[unique fox]

not feeling like ive had many big executes lately

so maybe ill just use SKS instead

[magic wing]

its so fucking big

[woeful solstice]

the solo shuffle tanking continues

[quaint snow]

literally since 10.07 shit went downhill 😂

[woeful solstice]

yeah dude

i was doing so great until ret rework LOL

i cant complain though im running ret/war 3s

[stark reef]

Will stop using sks into warlocks, to

Just getting rekt by the shields absoring the hit

[sage raptor]

Pvp talents when

[frail badge]

is beserker shout or piercing howl better iyo for solo queue? i was using how but the build i am following that i was linked to the other day uses shout and im not sure i like it as much

[stark reef]

100% piercing howl

[frail badge]

ok thanks thats what i thought as it feels better

[stark reef]

Maybe some 3s comps run shout into specific comps like lock/priest but unless you're all on the same page you're giving up way to much with no howl

[frail badge]

i was following this guide i was linked to done by bahjeera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-SPSYGeHM

[stark reef]

Yes, be careful though, it pays on youtube to "cook up something different"

[frail badge]

yeah i know what you mean

this is my current build, do you think its good?

my goal is just 1800 for the trans mog via solo queue and i am 1611 so far

[stark reef]

For that goal looks very solid

[frail badge]

ok cool

[stark reef]

Only thing i'd change is bottom left bladestorm + avatar if you run unhinged

[frail badge]

i was using spear build but found out that not as good when i asked the other day

idk were unhinged is and if i have it, ill check

[stark reef]

You do, bottom right middle

It's MS during bladestorm

[frail badge]

ok i have it thanks

[stark reef]

So you want the second bladestorm

From your avatar cast, to get more MS hits

[frail badge]

i go by the pictures and always forget the names

also i used to use that untill the guide and like the howl slow i feel like the second bladestorm felt better

[muted surge]

Is bitter immunity actual useful?

[stark reef]

It's very easy to use so for 1800 goal i'd run double BS every game

[frail badge]

idk i was wondering the same, the build i am using it says to use it but idk

[muted surge]

Personally I would rather use the deep wound heal instead of bloodletting

That talent feels meh unless you play sks

[sharp meteor]

breaking fear off healer is huge

[sharp meteor]

mostly just for ripping off amp weakness before go

if u can't rely on teammate to dispel

[muted surge]

Yea I only run it vs lock

The heal itself seems useless for a 3 min cd

[sharp meteor]

ya 5-10% heal between damp and ms ain't it

removing the -100% crit debuff is a good time tho

[frail badge]

what is the talent called for the deep wound heal?

nm i found it

[kind sentinel]

Were the warriors in the awc playing Sks?

[frail badge]

should i ever use the ability slam?

[sharp meteor]

it is very low priority

[sharp meteor]

i don't even remember what the warrs played aside from pika having a a meme shitpick build

[frail badge]

ok thanks i have not been using it at all and its not even on my bars so was not sure

[sharp meteor]

where he played every bladestorm talent into demo lock

sks seems good in general though as long as you don't fling it into an earthen wall

especially vs high armor

[frail badge]

also since i have blade master torrent now, should i open my burst with avatar first then use colossus smash after bladestorm proc ends or use colossus smash first then use avatar which procs bladestorm

and i know i should use sharpen blade, i also have warbringer and disarm, should i swap one of them for storm of destrution maybe?

[stark reef]

SKS full send into Unholy DK - when it works it works

Right now I'm liking it into ret or dk as target assuming I can't cleave and maybe monks but need more testing

[vivid pumice]

sks for me either feels ultra strong or wet noodle tier

[magic wing]

yeah on locks for example

[vivid pumice]

yeah some classes just eat it and don't care

[magic wing]

But when it works oh boy

Bursting the fuck out of rets feels very satisfying

[vivid pumice]

yeah there's a lot of fotm rets out there right now who can't figure out what they're doing wrong

just had a dungeon group on a druid i'm leveling that had 3 ret paladins and when i mentioned that they just got nerfed pretty hard one of them straight up left and logged out

the other 2 were also pretty disappointed to discover ret paladin isn't getting free glad anymore

[mild thunder]

I mean

It’s still pretty free lol

It went from omega triple SSS+++ tier to S tier

[stark reef]

Here is SKS vs Max Crit MS focused into the same Affli-lock w/ same rogue team-mate.

Both rounds very close 3% but lost.

I don't see much value running SKS into warlocks.

[frail badge]

with blademasters torent do i avatar first or colossul smash first the avatar

[stark reef]

20k DPS vs. 18.8K DPS

Given this is affli so even less shields than demo.

And still less DPS

Ofc games play different but the point remains

[spice hornet]

Any non bladestorm chads in the chat

[hexed ocean]

do we war breaker and roar before or after avatar

[woeful solstice]

But why

[spice hornet]

Ask @stark reef

He discovered the build

Bladestorm sucks

[woeful solstice]

[mild thunder]

Why would you even want bladestorm into RMP? What’re you even gonna bladestorm lmao

[spice hornet]

Nothing ol

They’ll just disarm it

[modern pilot]

how do we win vs ret mw lock as ret war?

[mild thunder]

I’ve started dropping intervene as well… it’s only 3 seconds lol, as if that’ll ever do anything

[spice hornet]

Yea it doesn’t do that much plus it’s physical damage only lol

All specs don’t do physical damage except other warr

[quick carbon]

fuck boys

this guys him

himothy

himmy turner

[mild thunder]

Intervene was only good when it was 6 seconds, had dmg reduction and spell reflect tied to it. Now it’s just bad

[woeful solstice]

bro what

u must be trolling

galachad stahp

ur gonna mislead the baby warriors

vene+parry is basically damage immunity against melee cleaves for 3s on you and an ally

[mild thunder]

@spice hornet agreed with me, how can i be trolling??

[spice hornet]

It’s not trolling, intervene and bladestorm are bad

[woeful solstice]

besides, what the hell else are you going to put the points into?

[mild thunder]

why would i waste talent points in intervene and bladestorm when i can invest in slam?? it has extra crit chance AND crit dmg??

[woeful solstice]

fuck

u got me

[spice hornet]

It’s a waste of points

You can get more dam put

Out

[mild thunder]

^

exactly

[woeful solstice]

with slam?

[mild thunder]

you dont need utility when the enemy team is dead

[woeful solstice]

show me the build you'd run then

[quick carbon]

based

asf

[spice hornet]

Ye the problem is intervene is only physical nelee and you have to be in melee range so on a ret paladin-caster meta, intervene gets no value

[mild thunder]

this is the best build for arms that i found (im 2.4 in shuffle, you can trust me)

[quick carbon]

incorrect

it works on melee attacks

doesnt matter if its physical

or not

[spice hornet]

No

Ask @mild thunder

He’s high rated

[mild thunder]

common lukeypooky cope

[quick carbon]

i hate u both

[spice hornet]

The point is is that I got high rated without intervene/commanding/bladestorm

And when I put those talents I losenpoints

[mild thunder]

coincidences like that dont happen at our high rating, it has to be because those abilities are just bad

[spice hornet]

In shuffle you don’t need those talents but in regular 3s you might

[quick carbon]

r we trolling rn

whats going on

[woeful solstice]

ya bro

10/10 troll ngl

that build is fucking r-worded

[spice hornet]

And even then it’s comp dependent

[spice hornet]

I got 2.4 first time with that build

[woeful solstice]

natbabes post armory or i legit think ur trolling

[spice hornet]

So…?

[woeful solstice]

in solos?

or 3s

[quick carbon]

that build is dogshit

[mild thunder]

bladestorm might be worth into low-cc comps, but you're not going to get any valuable cc immunes into rmp

[woeful solstice]

i respect the experimentation if ur serious

buffing slam seems like a huge waste of points

literally leaving versa on the table too

and 30s off ur parry

[mild thunder]

versatility is a cuck stat

[spice hornet]

My armory shows a shit build (bladestorm, intevene) then I swapped on recommendation of @mild thunder and claimed 2.4k ez clap

[mild thunder]

just go full crit/mast

[woeful solstice]

[spice hornet]

You don’t need those abilities in shuffle cause it’s too fast paced

[mild thunder]

thank you for the shoutout brother, i appreciate it 🙌

[woeful solstice]

gala helping free up some r1 spots in ss i see

[spice hornet]

Np brotha thanks for the help

Mods need to pin that shuffle build

[quick carbon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096173502568075305/1097693605340119130/image.png

talk ab

holy owned

holy shit LMAO

[woeful solstice]

you can take bladestorm and use it as a micro-avatar too

[mild thunder]

@knotty atlas can you please pin this updated build for end-of-season push?

[woeful solstice]

with bmt

[mild thunder]

dont worry @spice hornet im already on it

[woeful solstice]

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge plz pin the build

[woeful solstice]

warrior discord has gone insane

10.0.7 did some serious mental damage

[mild thunder]

spiteful serenity is also the most underrated warrior talent in the game and no one uses it smh

our burst is literally TWICE as long with that talent

[spice hornet]

^^^

[spice hornet]

I was able to climb to my highest CR with this guild today, thanks

Build

[woeful solstice]

aight new build who dis?

[quick carbon]

LMFAO

send thaat

[spice hornet]

Hope @mods ban the trolls I lost 98 CR cus this build

[mild thunder]

im so sorry man, that's actually so bad idk why people think it's funny to troll like that

people come here for real help and advice, it's not cool to spread misinfo

[worthy fern]

wish shockwave was good

auto crit stun

hits for 20k

[spice hornet]

It’s good? Talent into the dam talents it pumps

[mild thunder]

true ^^

[quick carbon]

I HATE

THE BOTH

O U

OF U

LMAO

[woeful solstice]

LMAO

[mild thunder]

idk why everyone thinks me and @spice hornet are trolling

[mild thunder]

we're being 100% serious

[vapid tartan]

worth swapping uproar for 2nd point in cruel strikes so cd aligns with ava or am i supposed to just send it on cd with cs?

[spice hornet]

Ye they don’t get shuffle is different and the games re too short to get value out of intervene/bladestorm

[vapid tartan]

in regular roar build

[spice hornet]

Don’t even really need rally either cuz it’s not good in shuffle where dampening is high

[mild thunder]

you can use this build ive been playing to 2.4 in soloQ

[mild thunder]

100% true as well, those talents are just bait, you should focus more on maximising dmg

[vapid tartan]

when did u get added to the game

[spice hornet]

I used that build ^ +300 CR today 🤝

[mild thunder]

blizz decided to honour me because im such a good contributor to skyhold pvp

[spice hornet]

2100 -> 2400 🤝

[vapid tartan]

deserved

[spice hornet]

Just gotta grind out wins now for title then push r1

[vapid tartan]

gonna try that build for my push to 2.4 tn

[mild thunder]

dw bro, you'll be CRUSHING all the other arms warriors with your new secret tech

[spice hornet]

I’ll say not having to bladestorm is a relief because it doesn’t do as much dam as a fully critted MS

In non-shuffle bladestorm might be good

Comp dependent

[mild thunder]

and remember - every second spent in bladestorm is a gcd not being spent on mortal strike, slam or overpower

it's literally wasted damage

[spice hornet]

Excacrly that’s my thought process

Now I’m usually #1 or #2 dam no matter what

[mild thunder]

🙌 so good to hear it 🙌

[undone pumice]

yass queen

[spice hornet]

Thanks @mild thunder 🤝

[mild thunder]

i bet this build would even allow us to 1v1 windwalkers (both equally high skilled)

[spice hornet]

[stark reef]

This is the most important concept about pvp

The match ends when someone dies so just kill someone on the enemy team.

Gotta say that roar + spear build looks like a gamer build. Is it time to cook?

[spice hornet]

Went from 2.1 to 2.4 in one sesh cause of that build

Spears baits CDs

Into roars

[stark reef]

Imagine the terror if they use gladiossa

They’ll hear you pop CDs all game long

Gonna try this to escape the 2.1k elo-hell

🤝

[spice hornet]

I was 2k games deep

Into 2.1 elo he’ll

[stark reef]

That’s pretty fkn deep

[mild thunder]

elo hell is rough and totally real

[stark reef]

At that point you know everyone’s family in your bracket

Elo Hell is very real

Are you a losers queue denier @mild thunder ?

[spice hornet]

Nah

I seen him roll up and smoke mud on stream

[mild thunder]

real

why do you think he quit streaming?

[stark reef]

Sounds traumatic

[stark reef]

@spice hornet no bladestorm gaming

[spice hornet]

🤝

Nice

MMR?

[stark reef]

1.2k

nah, was into 2k ret/unholy/disc

[spice hornet]

[stark reef]

Haters will say "Bladestorm the death-grip"

🤝

[stark reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuSxk_DNau8&ab_channel=PeppaPigParodies

[low pasture]

What spec would Andrew Tate play and why is it WW Monk?

[fresh valve]

u think he'd waste time playing the game?

he'd pay top dollar for pilots

[spice hornet]

I think it would be warrior without intervene/bladestorm/rallying cry

[unique fox]

Goddamn bros LFG is fucking rough

[stark reef]

Sounds like it's time to shuffle it up\

Fk'em

[fresh valve]

an even bigger waste of time

[unique fox]

1900-2000 is the Hell Zone

[stark reef]

Shuffle is bis because you can actually tell the healer mid round that his parents are siblings and he either plays the round or also loses

Good stuff

[fresh valve]

shuffle's pointless after 1800

all about dat pimp dragon

[unique fox]

Sometimes you get a mglad alt god, other times you get the fotm reroller without sanc bound

[stark reef]

Probably @spice hornet alt - he's down bad on utility these days

Utility is haram

[fresh valve]

two weeks left

[unique fox]

Yeah me and my disc buddy are grinding

Doesn't seem unreasonable honestly but LFG shitters without voice is a major handicap, usually do alright and then get a couple knuckleheads that tank a few games and its gg rating

[fresh valve]

yea idk if u can get glad through LFG this season

[woeful solstice]

it truly is

once i broke 2200 it was a straight line up

[woeful solstice]

you can but time is running short

need to get tags + people that want to use voice immediately

[mild thunder]

Literal facts

[indigo barn]

Tate would run unhinged into demo every time

[fossil mortar]

If you are not disarming the tyrant, are you even living close to your best life?

[unique fox]

this gives me hope, I will persevere

[woeful solstice]

[undone pumice]

andrew tate wouldnt run bladestorm

[tawny brook]

He would definitely be running Alpha Predator

[tawny brook]

I like that dog in your pic

[unique fox]

yeah skullsplitter kind of owns

[undone pumice]

chomp

[mild thunder]

@undone pumice is a furry

[stark reef]

@spice hornet haters will say "bladestorm the axe toss"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGjjWYdj1QM&ab_channel=OnyiDavid

[tawny brook]

I cant win on anything other than warrior

Is paladin easy to get wins?

[undone pumice]

my honest reaction

[muted surge]

The easiest

[quick carbon]

does anyone remember the warrior YouTuber evylyn

that mans passed away

now I’m sad

[bright stream]

not sure this is the best language given the nature of what it seems like happened - but yeah sad indeed.

(I hadn't previously heard of them)

[spark zenith]

Is Menace worth?

[undone pumice]

only if you are a menace

[unique fox]

Menace is completely insane, uncapped fear knock, shits on demo so hard

All these shitty little demons knocked back and feared for 8s

[muted surge]

Does it matter if they are knocked back tho

[spark zenith]

I guess if you want unhinged to connect with lock

But I fear tyrant anyway

[muted surge]

Also, doesn’t unhinged not always hit the main target anyway

[unique fox]

Stops you from cleaving their pets out of fear

[muted surge]

It’s just about the sweep no?

[tawny brook]

Is storm of destruction and blademasters torment the maximum amount if fun allowed by law?

[mild thunder]

Why would you take bladestorm? Lmao

Wasted talent point, but ok

[tawny brook]

I hate banner

[mild thunder]

Any no-bladestorm chads in the chat??

@spice hornet

[tawny brook]

Banner doesn’t work and i cant be convinced otherwise

[fickle forge]

Say sike right now

[mild thunder]

lmao, you must be a bladestorm beta

[fickle forge]

Bladestorm Chad that rolls through the demo CC

[mild thunder]

nahh, betastorm

[fickle forge]

Go play vanilla nerd

[mild thunder]

what's there to even bladestorm against a lock??

[fickle forge]

Everything

Every CD they use is also a micro CC, I swear

[mild thunder]

you only need that utility bs when you're not good enough to just kill them

[fickle forge]

Kill them while spinning

[mild thunder]

@spice hornet back me up

[fickle forge]

Make them feel like a clown, while being killed by a clownlooking move

[mild thunder]

all my homies hate bladestorm

[fickle forge]

Higher benchers bladestorm

It's in your diet

Your routine

Your aesthetics

[mild thunder]

bladestorm users 🤓
no-bladestorm GIGACHADS

you're just mad that your wife left you for an 8'4" no-bladestorm gigachad

[wheat jay]

Fuck bladestorm

Retard proof ability

[fickle forge]

Shut up hunter main

[wheat jay]

I dislike retard proof abilities

[mild thunder]

truee, stfu hunter main

disengage 🤓

[wheat jay]

Like everything hpala does

[fickle forge]

Didn't need her, sounds too close to a ret pala

[median shuttle]

its gay af that its tied to dam, longer cd with less dmg would be much better

then you're forced to think about using it

unhinged is so degen plus absolute garbonzo into pet classes

[wheat jay]

Then it just becomes anti-cc

Remove bladestorm

[mild thunder]

remove disengage

[wheat jay]

Give warrior 100% crit cd back

Remove charge

[mild thunder]

remove turtle

[wheat jay]

Remove dbts

[mild thunder]

unironically FUCK HUNTER next ssn

actually gonna be a retard spec

[median shuttle]

30 min cd like classic

[wheat jay]

Like warrior almost every season?

[mild thunder]

"ye, my pet is unkillable and if you do kill it you cant stop revive"

[wheat jay]

I mean, that is fine

Seeing how useless the class is if you kill pet

[mild thunder]

it would be fine if they were nerfing hunter in other ways

[wheat jay]

Bm they should

Survi is dogshit so there's that xD

[mild thunder]

sv isn't even shit

and it's getting an 8% buff

[wheat jay]

Its quite balanced now

[mild thunder]

sv gonna be cranking

[wheat jay]

Ye but there's mongoose nerf

[mild thunder]

mongoose nerf isn't real

[wheat jay]

So it'll kinda balance out

[median shuttle]

their tier is all bomb shit

[mild thunder]

it's just a tooltip change - it was already implemented, but the tooltip broke

[wheat jay]

Fam 4set was +20% dps xD

[median shuttle]

so the dmg will be shifted up a bit

[mild thunder]

yea, that

[median shuttle]

they are fkn pumping atm tho

[mild thunder]

but new tier is fine for sv pvp

buffs its ranged dmg a bit

[wheat jay]

Which is good

But

[mild thunder]

arms 4pc is literally

fucking

useless

[wheat jay]

You know what would be better?

Giving survi tools to live in melee

[mild thunder]

nah, would be lame

[wheat jay]

So it can be a melee spec

[mild thunder]

nah let it be hybrid

there's like 15 other melee specs to play

[median shuttle]

yeah thats good tho cuz we dont have to wait an extra 2 weeks if we get unlucky

just get some more haste vers shit

[mild thunder]

it's good that our 4set is a <5% dmg increase

[median shuttle]

yeah... dont use it

[mild thunder]

other specs are gonna get busted tier but ours will be bad and this is good for us

[median shuttle]

they balance around the tier sets dude

its kinda irrelevant how much dmg it gives us except for the first week or so where shit can be super busted

[mild thunder]

arms isnt gonna get buffs

like

ever

until we're shit again at the start of 11.0 and get buffed to oblivion in 11.0.5 like we were in DF

[wheat jay]

So is survi

Brothers in misery xD

[mild thunder]

i just hope soloQ dies in s2

[wheat jay]

It won't

2s and 3s will be even less popular

[mild thunder]

it might - no new rewards and a deflated ladder

[wheat jay]

Unless glad mount is literally free

[mild thunder]

ppl wont be getting their free 2.4 anymore

[median shuttle]

I'd say theyre likely to pump 2s and 3s with heaps of inflation

[mild thunder]

soloQ is only so popular because rating is LITERALLY free

[wheat jay]

And there's no lfg

[median shuttle]

yeah 2.4 is full brain off w key

[wheat jay]

Still, if glad is free

Then 3s will be alive

Otherwise they won't

0 chance for that

[mild thunder]

kind of a shame that everything else about DF is really, really good but arena is the worst it's been in ages

[median shuttle]

arena is fine just participation is shit

have to roll galachad every game at 1800 smh

[mild thunder]

ahem... 10.0.7

also, participation being shit is a big contributor to arenas in general being shit

[median shuttle]

yeah you end up with more meta stuff less diversity for sure

It just makes the issues more obvious

but I think its a fine season

[mild thunder]

[median shuttle]

I mean if you live in the discord/ reddit echo chamber every season is the worst ever, its always doom and gloom haha

[tawny brook]

Is ret easy

[median shuttle]

yeah super easy

pretty fun atm too

[tawny brook]

And is it going to stay good in 10.1 from the looks of it?

[median shuttle]

yeah looks like it will be sick

tier set is really good

[vapid ruin]

quick question,do you guys even do pve anymore?

[median shuttle]

nope

[mild thunder]

quick question,do you guys even use bladestorm anymore?

[vapid ruin]

yes boss

[mild thunder]

noob

[vapid ruin]

[fickle forge]

Nuke PvE

[bright stream]

nah got sick of raid/guild politics and drama

mythic/ce stuff was fun tho

[bright stream]

wish bladestorm was removed from arms - only thing stopping it's completely uncontested reign of cool

[vapid tartan]

Is it doable to learn enough to push to 2.4 from 2.2k shuffle before s2 if im going like 50% winrate rn

[bright stream]

at this stage you're entirely at the mercy of the queues

last night I queued ~7 sets of SS

in 4 sets I went 4-2 or 5-1 and did not gain any rating at around 2400

[vapid tartan]

I cant decide whether I like the standard bleed or sks more

[bright stream]

go with simple and consistent

[mild thunder]

yes

drop bladestorm = win

[vapid tartan]

Also is there a good guide on how to peel better? Feel like there’s some rounds with a squishy teammate against lock hunter or ret, try to disarm and cc, intervene on big cds and drop my offensives but they ignore me

also, if a priest trinkets and health swaps kill target in exe range your supposed to swap to him rifht

[muted surge]

RET burst lasts 20 sec, can’t peel for ever :(

[bright stream]

disarm/use hamstring if its not on target/piercing on cd, kick when you can, IV if against melee and stay on top of them

outside of that, your partner has to do something

shimmer + precog is basically impossible to play into 😦

[magic wing]

How real is going 2.1 to 2.4 in SS till season ends ?

[green wyvern]

very real

you can do it in 2 hrs if you get lucky

[magic wing]

And you get the weapons for it right ?

[lean burrow]

Weapons are bought with marks of honor

Vendor is near upgrade npc

[green wyvern]

yes, transmogs

[bright stream]

2.4 to 2.1 in 2 hours was real too lol

[muted surge]

That’s the time it took me to get from 2.2 to 1.7

So can confirm :>

[bright stream]

feeling the pain of coming back to play a little late

I suppose if I'd come back any earlier thought it'd have been ret pala city

which wouldnt have been any better

but yeah basically every game between 2.1 and 2.6 I played this week a ranged dps (usually frost mage) used the healer as a play thing and went 6-0 or close to

and when it wasn't ranged dps it was ret paladins

[wary heart]

meta shifted super hard 10.0.7

rss warr feels terrible with omega spell casters

[fast oriole]

my first rss this season on my new war was into demo/frost mage/BM ... on blades edge arena (:

[muted surge]

Blades edge is the bridge I guess?

Always went 1-5 or so on that map vs casters :(

[fast oriole]

bridge yeah

very tilting

[magic wing]

All caster lobbies are the most annoying thing

[copper hare]

pvp is the most annoying thing

what do you expect

[lilac musk]

For Skullsplitter, do we essentially have to rend twice to get max damage? The first rend goes on for less than 10 secs, but if you reapply it jumps to over 20secs? I assume the latter is what you want to hit with the splitter?

[spice hornet]

@mild thunder discovered that bladestorm is useless in shuffle and situational at best (comp dependent) in 3s. Since I used his build I went 2.1-2.4 in one sesh 🤝 @wheat jay @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-fake-news-gif-11382583

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-this-is-dave-chappelle-gif-19017073

[mild thunder]

They’re coping

[magic wing]

Big cap

[spice hornet]

Let’s see the numbers bro bladestorm hits 5k a ticket but then I can’t press mortal strike which hits ez 50k+

So missing out on dam

[stark reef]

I can confirm this https://youtu.be/DGjjWYdj1QM

[obsidian loom]

Bladestorm casts ms idgi

It's free ms without being cced

[mild thunder]

You have to waste THREE talent points for that bro

So bad

[lean burrow]

what's the third point

[mild thunder]

The point of my dick going inside your mum

Gottem

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-no-no-emote-emote-nooo-emote-gif-23071619

[mild thunder]

[lean burrow]

wait it's reset day

lost track of time

[worthy fern]

Back in slands when ret was op people ran duel a lot

[teal hedge]

Reset day is tomorrow

[minor forge]

for fury should i use onyx annulet (and which gems) or an honor ring

in solo

[magic wing]

Stop trolling BS is essential

Can cleave 2 mfs down at the same time

[tired portal]

how much does tierset matter to dps in pvp for arms?

[mild thunder]

Cap

cap + cope

[fossil mortar]

BS do break roots tho

[mild thunder]

wasted globals

bladestorm is troll in shuffle, bad in 3s too

[lean burrow]

very much

2 set > weapon I think

4 set idk, around the same as weapon maybe

[tired portal]

ty for the reply, guess ill have to do the quest chains then

[red igloo]

how nice of blizzard to give me what i needed

[fossil mortar]

You now ready for next season

[stark reef]

Boomkin & demo lock - I went boomkin whilst killing Obelisk and fearing Tyrannt, close games but lock just shreds you all game.

Right gameplan?

Had ret pally w/ me

[worthy fern]

More to kick on lock I think

Tough match either way

[stark reef]

Yeah, guides say boomkin is good target but I'm starting to doubt this

Bearform/Barkskin/Frenzied Regen, Typhoon - that shit just doesn't die ever

[mild thunder]

if you're forcing a boomy into bear, they're not playing the game

but yea generally lock would be a better target there

[dusk garden]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-talents-and-builds

where is the warrior part of the talent tree?

it only shows the fury section

[lean burrow]

stun out of bear form

[dusk garden]

is there a very newly updated guide on fury warrior for pvp?

[lean burrow]

murlok.io for talents, gear, enchants etc

youtube for ingame strategy and rotation

[dusk garden]

any videos you recommend for ingame strat?

[stark reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbMaURlnun0&t=13s&ab_channel=SkillCappedWoWGuides

[lean burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFn5UJY4tI

basically #810664169140518947 but funny

[teal hedge]

Starting day off strong with a 5/6

Love to see it

[magic wing]

I hear "big damage" in this guys voice when I burst ppl now

[teal hedge]

The miestros?

[stark reef]

His play by play whilst playing is quite impressive

If I’d have to spell out my game-plan in real time we’d be hitting people in 1400

[spice hornet]

You been using the new build right?

🤝

[teal hedge]

I tanked 4 million damage

And I healed 1 million

IN ONE ROUND

[magic wing]

New build ?

[dusk garden]

ty

[dusk garden]

ty

[spice hornet]

Someone with high shuffle xp posted a new build yesterday

[teal hedge]

I'm jinxing it

[spice hornet]

Used it and went 2.1 to 2.4 in one sesh

[teal hedge]

No way

[spice hornet]

After ELO hell

[teal hedge]

Teammates keep dropping dead

[spice hornet]

🤝

[teal hedge]

Healer decided it was time to save trinket (I died)

Their healer went AFK and I killed them within seconds 😎

Hit new best rating of 1636

[lean burrow]

[lean burrow]

probably no bladestorm meme build

(it's meme build)

[stark reef]

It’s legit

Using Bladestorm is the equivalent of wearing a covid mask alone in the car.

[lean burrow]

immuning at least 1 cc in the match >>> 1% crit or exec precision

[lean burrow]

link the build

[stark reef]

@spice hornet is the author

[dusk garden]

is murlok io bugged?

i cant see any talents?

[stark reef]

Only available on his patreon, if I leak it I get banned

[teal hedge]

What build dat be

[spice hornet]

This is the vuild

It’s a good shuffle build, in regular 3s you might want bladestorm depending on the comp you play

But in shuffle, bladestorm only hits 5k a tick and you can’t MS which would hit 50k+ easily

Also intervene and command aren’t good in shuffle due to the high dampening so it’s best to get big fan out to close games

🤝

[lean burrow]

this abomination?

[spice hornet]

Ye

[stark reef]

The best part about this build is that if you play this to 2.4k you have 3.5k experience

[lean burrow]

I'm sure r1 can get 2.4k without colossus smash or something

[spice hornet]

You don’t need csmash in shuffle because it’s a long CD

Mud needs to pin the new build

[stark reef]

He really does. The No Rend full bleed improved slam is just that good.

Oh wait, it’s rend through thunderclap

Wait no, you need rend talented to apply it

If I am this confused as a warrior main just imagine what your opponents go through

[magic wing]

Wtf is that

SKS no rend no T words ? LOL

[stark reef]

Can we ask MUD to do a climb with this build for the culture?

[magic wing]

That looks like a build Asmongold would use to get carried straight to glad

[stark reef]

🤝

[teal hedge]

I JUST WON US A ROUND BY STUNNING HEALER

This shit so satisfying

Talking big for going 2/6

(I went 3/6 😎 )

But no joke, I was HARD STUCK into defensive

He's complaining about me not saving him

I intervened twice (ON CD) and stunned the dk that was hunting him

And he just stood there and tried to tank him

(As an evoker, mind you)

He said he got mind-controlled.

Must've forgotten

[unique fox]

You guys think that Tclap rend talent is worth 2 points?

[dusk garden]

how should i be targeting people in pvp? i really dislike pressing tab

[stark reef]

/target arena1

[dusk garden]

what should i bind that to

[stark reef]

The keyboard

[dusk garden]

like

what button

what do people usually bind it to

[stark reef]

Ctrl + 1

[dusk garden]

thats so hard to reach

[stark reef]

Keybinds are completely preference

[dusk garden]

you actually press control and 6 together?

[stark reef]

yes

[dusk garden]

are ur fingers chopsticks or something

[stark reef]

yes

[dusk garden]

that seems so ineffective no?

like ur doing osu mania combo or something

[stark reef]

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-Ergonomic-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00E8CF268

[dusk garden]

im gonna try not buying it first but idk maybe if i really need that ill buy it

i have a 200 dollar mouse rn so

[stark reef]

The side buttons are a game changer

Not sure how I’d play otherwise

[dusk garden]

do we need rest and unsheathe?

or is that just like quality of life stuff

if not im just going to rebind those to target arena 123

[lean burrow]

do you press them in combat?

[dusk garden]

no but i like pressing them a lot when im not in combat

[lean burrow]

just rebind to numpad or something

[dusk garden]

my keyboard doesnt have numpad but yea ill just rebind them, thanks

[lean burrow]

i bound side mouse button to autorun and now i can't unlearn it

[dusk garden]

lol

[stark reef]

Played no Bladestorm into arms warrior at 2.1k, he died in opener

[teal willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6uw0uyJEMw ❤️

[teal hedge]

I've bound it to scrollwheel

Up 1

Down 2

Middle 3

[dusk garden]

i thought about that but i dont really prefer the pressing of middle mouse tbh

also what is the difference between focus and target?

[teal hedge]

It feels very intuitive, I recommend it

Focus is the funny extra bar that shows up if you rightclick a healthbar

Target is target

[dusk garden]

if i focus someone whats the difference between if i target them tho

[stark reef]

Focus will display throughout the entire match until you either unfocus or select new focus.

It's used to monitor a second target and/or use macros to /target focus instead of your primary target

No need to mess with this before 1.8k but after becomes essential

[dusk garden]

ok so

oh

so if i focus someone its usually the guy i need to keep monitored pretty much throughout the match but if i target someone its just a quicker and more accurate way to basically tab target them

is that right?

[stark reef]

As warrior you would generally set focus to the healer and use it to CC in key moments

You can see I have the priest focused and as my CD's are coming up I am going for a full fear to close the round

[dusk garden]

which circle is the focus bar that pops up

[stark reef]

The small one is focus

Big one is target

[dusk garden]

this one right

theres a smaller circle at the top wtf is that lol

[stark reef]

Yes, not sure where you see another circle - might be an addon

[dusk garden]

ok

[stark reef]

You can even see target of focus

So you see the healer is targeting the paladin

[dusk garden]

also, are there any specific macros for fury warrior i particular need? or can i just always rely on targetting first and then press cc button

[dusk garden]

is this an addon?

[stark reef]

No, that's standard UI

[dusk garden]

oh ok

[stark reef]

#showtooltip Recklessness
/use 14
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion

use this macro for burst if you're getting started

Right after Onslaught

Remove either spear or shout depending on what you have talented

14 is your active trinket

So if it's in the other slot it's /use 13

[dusk garden]

spear of bastion is that kyrian talent right?

did that get removed from the game?

[sharp meteor]

yar

[stark reef]

Yes, you generally choose roar or spear

[sharp meteor]

nah its a talent now

[dusk garden]

oh

this is my current talent tree

[stark reef]

I'd use pinned build

[stark reef]

NEW Onslaught Hybrid Build
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This works very well

[dusk garden]

is this like proven to be the best build now or something? i just copied the rank 1 shuffle player tree

[stark reef]

That's generally a good way to play it, just keep in mind that R1 players will adjust builds each round

The pinned build is your go to but as you get more comfortable you can adjust as you see fit each round

[dusk garden]

is there any basis for why its the go to

[stark reef]

There are some experienced warriors in this channel that cooked it up

[dusk garden]

i see

also what happens with target macros when it comes to bg?

do they still work?

[stark reef]

no

arena only

[dusk garden]

ok

why dont

the experienced warriors just copy whatever the rank 1 player does?

is it cuz theyre too specific or something

[spice hornet]

Ctrl-8

Banana fingers?

[stark reef]

Razer Naga

[sage raptor]

Naga Stole My Bike

[fickle hill]

To the fury is better use the thunderROAR or the Bastion spear??

[stark reef]

Preference - my rule is roar vs. everything that won't kite, spear vs. everything else

Uptime > Everything else

[fickle hill]

that won't kite?...

[stark reef]

Classes that can’t kite an arms warrior

[fickle hill]

what is kite?

[stark reef]

Or better lobbies

[fickle hill]

And sorry for my english... but dont understand when u write KITE

is mean that doesn't have movility?

[stark reef]

Kite - run away in an attempt to avoid further damage

[fickle hill]

kk now i know

is like spear is like for hunter, mage, druid, who else

??

[stark reef]

It really depends

If you’re newer I’d just run roar every game

Spear is more difficult to use

[lean burrow]

run roar because nobody sees roar debuff on them and they won't press defensives

[fickle hill]

Ooooo 😮

[fickle hill]

Uhmm, when i play, i start the fight with CHARGE.... then Avatar/Reckleness and Spear in my feet with macro botton.... but i see that all the warrior fury use Roar....

[wispy drum]

You don't need to start with charge.

Especially if it's a class that has any mobility that can get away from you. Just run at them mounted.

[fickle hill]

dont use charge... 😮 waooo!! that is new for me... let me send a photo of my talents in PVP

[dark sparrow]

Use the build from pins, spear as fury is just griefing

[lean burrow]

you don't need shattering if you are not against paladin or mage

[dark sparrow]

You don’t even take shatter vs mage or paladin either

[lean burrow]

you also need defensive stance, rallying cry and intervene

[lean burrow]

i know pala would just kite/stun but why not mage

[red igloo]

is this normal

[dark sparrow]

Sadly yes

[wispy drum]

Yes.

[red igloo]

christ

[fickle hill]

Uhmm

[dark sparrow]

Are you 1v1ing the mage?

[fickle hill]

am i good like this?

Sorry for my picture in spanish version

😦

[dark sparrow]

Pretty sure you don’t play adapt tbh

[fickle hill]

For the fury is better mastery true?

[lean burrow]

i doubt mages in his lobby would pre iceblock a go, so why not

[dark sparrow]

[dark sparrow]

And what about the teammates of the mage in that lobby that can just stop your 4s or smth cast

Better to just tab to other target and keep up pressure

[lean burrow]

they eat shit and instantly die with the mage