pvp

[idle falcon]

time to try new build

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

Oh no way

I got the helmet recipe

[exotic storm]

i usually buy my helmets from the gas station but im impressed you can make your own

@stark reef at what point would you recommend trying skullsplitter? that seems like its the go to move imo since the burst is quite good and comes up pretty fast

[iron fractal]

37% versatility and a paladin hits you for 140 k.. sure is fun to play pvp.

Followed by a 70k blade of justice.

Divine storm 80 k..

wtf is versatility good for?

[teal hedge]

Just killed someone with thundering roar

Beloved

[muted surge]

i love rets

[teal hedge]

Only paladins I respect are holies

The miestro is actually making me want to roll one

[muted surge]

that guy

is afk for all rounds bcs he doesnt have bars

[lean burrow]

was watching disc priest video

look who died

[mild thunder]

typical

[idle falcon]

@mild thunder if i were to swap improved whirlwind with something in pvp tree u sent me, what would i swap it to?

raging arnaments?

[mild thunder]

what's raging armaments?

i cant remember fury tree

[idle falcon]

extra charge in raging blow

[mild thunder]

uhhh nah

probs

odyns fury

[idle falcon]

how come

i thought odyn's fury was bad

[teal hedge]

Are there any binds for targeting a healer with the stun or fear?

*macros

[mild thunder]

it is, but hthere's not really any great alternatives in that build tbh

[idle falcon]

critical thinking?

increases dmg of raging blow crits by 5%

[mild thunder]

eh, can do

but you're not pressing rb that much in that build

[teal hedge]

Fellas?

[mild thunder]

fellas

[idle falcon]

fellers

[teal hedge]

What are you macros for stunning the healer?

I often mess my targeting up

Oh yeah I can bind F! - F3 to targetting

[iron fractal]

Spear of bastion or Thunderous roar for bg's?

[idle falcon]

Shockwave

[bright stream]

@mild thunder think I have to reconsider my position

I think fury might actually garbage

[idle falcon]

im on a winning streak with fury wdym

[bright stream]

what rating you kicking at? at 2400 I'm sitting full duration ccs constantly, roots in particular

[idle falcon]

nah still 1700

xd

i rose to 1825 then dropped a bit cause issues with internet

[bright stream]

yeah fury was chill as

and I was having a good time earlier in the weekend

today it's been cancer

may have left it too late in the season as well

[idle falcon]

i always win as fury if an arms warrior isnt against me xD

only way i win

[bright stream]

its just mages for me

but frost mage is in almost every game

might have to go back to playing root break every game its wild

[mild thunder]

[idle falcon]

race change to gnome

[bright stream]

I think I'd rather uninstall than play gnome

lmao

[idle falcon]

u were complainng

i gave you an answer

:D

[bright stream]

I just need to be heard hey

you know that thing that your missus will do sometimes, she don't wanna know the answer?

[idle falcon]

i dont have a missus..

i got no bitches

[lean burrow]

then you can't play warrior

consider rerolling dh

[magic wing]

True

[idle falcon]

dont need no bitches to play warrior

warrior is my alternative

[dark sparrow]

Just reroll rogue than you’re the bitch yourself

[magic wing]

All warrior players get bitches

[idle falcon]

yeah but im muslim so bitches arent really in the equation

xD

[magic wing]

If not they go pink and join the ret pally discord

Oh ok then

That is fine too

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[idle falcon]

[magic wing]

Man of faith Chad

[teal hedge]

I'm not even religious, I'm just not lookin for women atm

Men, however

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-25694630

[idle falcon]

XD

[bright stream]

it's the weekly sub to mr tate 😛

[lean burrow]

fucking discord trash app

[idle falcon]

i saw that

[lean burrow]

doesn't show gifs

[spark zenith]

Struggling against bm hunter comps in solo as arms, any tips other than try to eat traps?

[teal hedge]

What do targetting macros look like now again?

Oh wait you don't even need macros

[muted surge]

is there a prime time to queue ?

it feels like i lose rating between 10 am and 2 pm, gain rating until ~7 pm

or am i going mental kek

[bright stream]

nah this is always a thing

you wanna queue at the right times for your spec/playstyle

for me this boils down to warlocks are queuing, mages are not queing

[sharp meteor]

is roll of dice to some extent

have a lobby where i do nothing and go 6-0

sweat out of my mind and go 1-5

just go next

[teal hedge]

You and me both

[muted surge]

mhmmm

[bright stream]

that's it, unless you played 10,000 games

you just gotta play another game

[sharp meteor]

ye

watched somebody go from 3100 to 2200 back to 3400

sometimes u just get unlucky and/or tilt

[fossil mortar]

When you play 2s and meet 10 rdruid+surv in a row
Then you meet 10 warlocks in a row

[muted surge]

i guess

just gonna keep queing and hope i hit 2.4 in the next 2 weeks kek

[fossil mortar]

Just remember to take breaks and lift weights, ya got this

[muted surge]

if i disarm a hunter mid cast

does the cast still do dmaage _

[idle falcon]

every round u lose do 10 pushups

[fossil mortar]

Every you win, 10 pullups

[muted surge]

3 min queues lets go!

game is alive

[teal hedge]

I just had four 30 minute queues in a row

[fossil mortar]

Mine says 42min, at 31

[teal hedge]

I hate that my function keys are so high

Makes targeting feel clunky

Maybe z, x and c could be target keys

I was 36 mmr below average and I got +14 mmr from going 4/6

[fossil mortar]

Target keys are very personal preference, scroll up and down works well too

[teal hedge]

There's a macro for that?

[fossil mortar]

Scroll up is arena one, down is arena 2, mid is arena 3. Focus keys on binds.

I don't recommend it, but is how I been doing it for too long

[teal hedge]

Something like that might work for me

[muted surge]

steaeday progress

[teal hedge]

I bhop with my mousewheel in cs

[bright stream]

what keyboard you rocking?

[teal hedge]

Corsair K65, I think

No

Not that one

wait

Corsair K60

There we go

[muted surge]

was afraid of the first message kek

i absolutly hate shuffle ngl

[bright stream]

feels like the fn keys are pretty normal height

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-gif-21782214

[bright stream]

but like, if you need a kb upgrade, and don't wanna go too expensive - leopold and varmillo are very good for non-custom builds

plus you get some pretty sick colour schemes for the keycaps

[idle falcon]

i have corsair k100

[teal hedge]

I tend to go all-black with my stuff

Computer has no rgb at all

Rockin da Fractal design north

Shit look so good

[idle falcon]

thats why u cant climb

[teal hedge]

Or actually, my mobo has rgb

Cause it's a rog strix mobo

[idle falcon]

u need more rgb

u need a 10000k pc

[teal hedge]

This da case I'm rockin wit

I have seen rgb work, but it requires cablemod stuff

[muted surge]

thats a nice case

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[idle falcon]

yeah very nice

[teal hedge]

It started selling as soon as I needed to rebuild my pc as well

[idle falcon]

pog

[teal hedge]

I like the more professional, clean look

Just a shame my room doesn't reflect upon that aspect

[bright stream]

I've had my eye on one of these for a while

[teal hedge]

But I'll move out soon anyways, so I don't plan to buy a new table etc

[bright stream]

if I end up having to go back to the office

[teal hedge]

That one looks nice

[muted surge]

that looks liek one of the bubblehums

[bright stream]

its so fucking loud, but

the colours just speak to me

[teal hedge]

Just a shame the keypad is missing

[teal hedge]

Ever play hotline miami?

[bright stream]

I use a separated keypad, it's hella based

varmillo will do high quality mechanical switch keypads in the same themes

I've played the payday hotline miami missions, they were pretty sick

[muted surge]

why would you even use the keypad

[bright stream]

can be useful for spreadsheeting, math biz, etc

[teal hedge]

Fighting games

[bright stream]

comes up when working

[teal hedge]

Which way, western man?

[muted surge]

yea but for that i just use the normal numbers

[bright stream]

WOT get a fight stick

[teal hedge]

Fighting games Business
<-------------- ------->

[muted surge]

And if you care about fighting games get a stick

[teal hedge]

Landing pot-busters with sticks is painful thoug

And sticks feel a little cringe, y'know?

You guys ever play fighting games? If so, which ones?

[fossil mortar]

1 hour in qué kill me

[bright stream]

lmao of course youre a potemkin player

[sharp meteor]

hm has anybody played raging blow talents much how do they compare to bt/bloodbath/annihilator

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/potemkin-potemkin-buster-potemkin-gaming-gif-22359937

[idle falcon]

xd

[bright stream]

haven't played since rev 2

heard strive was kinda garbage

[teal hedge]

Strive is pretty cool

[bright stream]

plus got sick of playing the same 8 kids from australia

[muted surge]

strive was cool

[teal hedge]

Characters bhe missing

No slayer, no dissy

[bright stream]

when the aussie anime FGC is your 2 mates and 5 weird kids from victoria, it gets old

[teal hedge]

I play with my buddy that plays setplay and rushdowns

I get BULLIED

[fossil mortar]

RA build works quite decently, feels super smooth and is not too punished by lower crit values

[bright stream]

on topic though

[sharp meteor]

was tempted to binge the remainder of the season as fury in shoof

[bright stream]

does anyone else fucking detest playing with disc priests?

[teal hedge]

I love playing with them

[sharp meteor]

not rly since changes

[teal hedge]

They dispell bubbles

[bright stream]

I've been having a lot of fun, and a lot of frustration

[muted surge]

yea

[sharp meteor]

if their cds are used poorly then ya but if they use high it's a cozy time

[bright stream]

bouncing between 2400 and 2600 last 2 days

[sharp meteor]

i rly like a good disc priest

especially on fury

[bright stream]

feels very much like the healers/mages decide most of the games tbh

[muted surge]

everytime i play with a disc, they dont top me when i chill next to them

[sharp meteor]

what i dislike now is rdruid because they just do nothing

die through a full line of hots gg

[teal hedge]

REstos can be cool

With their cc

But their healing is pretty bad

[sharp meteor]

gg priest knows to mindsteal now my rdru is rdoodoo and can't rejuv

[bright stream]

I like shamanas, begrudgingly don't mind playing with monks

[sharp meteor]

fistweavie is cool because u got a lot of peels to enable them

[muted surge]

i fucking hate fistweaver tho

[bright stream]

I can't figure out what it is

[muted surge]

the all suck

[fossil mortar]

Hpally

[bright stream]

like 75% of priests

just do fucking nothing

zero healing

[sharp meteor]

so disc cant play reactively

and everybody tries to play reactively

so

[bright stream]

and every single time, they're the rage-iest players

[sharp meteor]

gg ps'd at 30% we lose

[fossil mortar]

Disco just slaps and pushes with you, you get PI to end it - gg ez next

Oh shit only over a hour, I got in

Back in qué

[teal hedge]

Ion have the time and energy to sit for hours in queue

Gotta get me a 2v2 / 3v3 teammate

HAd this one pally, but he just got absorbed by the german masses

[muted surge]

is there any fix so that my keybinds dont vanish until reload when i enter combat ?

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872557080819691591/1097176098544046170/unknown.png

[stark reef]

How big of an advantage would you guys say gnome racial is in rating terms?

[fickle forge]

+50

[stark reef]

I changed to undead when I started playing again for the aesthetic but having that 1min immunity might be massive

[fickle forge]

Undead
Aesthetics

Pick one

[thick reef]

That looks like shit mate

[stark reef]

Only race that doesn’t look like it’s straight out of an anime

Mate you have an anime profile picture

Jesus Christ

[lean burrow]

human is better

[teal hedge]

Undead is crazy

Love undead

But rolling a worgen rn

[thick reef]

Undead just looks like shit on Warrior

[stark reef]

You have a drawing of a child as your picture

[lean burrow]

zandalari trolls have better idle pose but no boots

[stark reef]

Yeah, no boots is rough

I like gnome but old gnome was much better

[teal hedge]

Yeah, no boots on worgen is brutal

[thick reef]

Try again

[stark reef]

That’s a child

Are you ok?

[teal hedge]

My honest reaction:
𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌𒈗𒆠𒉌𒂠𒌌𒌌

[stark reef]

Those are the facial features of a young teenage girl

[fickle forge]

No this looks exactly out of an anime lmao

[sharp meteor]

wonder if it's like a legal thing

[teal hedge]

I think kul'tiran humans or dark iron dwarves are the best

I sadly have neither

[sharp meteor]

although anybody doing pvp sales rn is probs only taking cash

[fickle forge]

Also why does your mog have 6 different colours

[fickle forge]

More like a profit thing

[stark reef]

Because I made it from the gear I have, I like it

[teal hedge]

You should get a tabard though

I use the gilneas tabard, looks pretty cool

[thick reef]

Raceswap too

[teal hedge]

I mean, I main ally

[thick reef]

Gilneas Tabard
Horde

[fickle forge]

Literally 4 different colours on the shoulders only

[sharp meteor]

honestly token was a cool addition because can buy shop stuff with gold

and piggies who paid cash would've bought from china anyways

[fickle forge]

I guess, but it's RMT with extra steps really, except it goes into Blizz' pockets

[thick reef]

Yeah, but the brutal truth is that RMT will always exist

[fickle forge]

Now Blizz profits off of it though

It is what it is

[sharp meteor]

i mean in the case of pvp most boosts are still cash and not through blizz

[thick reef]

Better to control it than let it run rampant

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[sharp meteor]

boomers buying aotc/ksm with a token or two who cares tho

[fickle forge]

Blizz do

Revenue

😎 👍

[sharp meteor]

not what i was referring to

[fickle forge]

Eh, then yeah

[sharp meteor]

but ye nice to be able to snag shop stuff with gold

[fickle forge]

Doesn't matter then

[sharp meteor]

i ain't paying 25 buckaroos per race change

[stark reef]

This was the gnome before

[thick reef]

Now you can pay gold to raceswap

[teal hedge]

Why swap from alliance to horde? :(

[stark reef]

Just for the looks

Don't like retail gnome models much

[teal hedge]

Real

Little guys

I would kill them

On sight

But I have a worgen and a male dranei

I wanna get the dark-iron-dwarves and kul tirans, but unlocking them seems painful

[thick reef]

You just need a 50 Alliance for DID if you did it on Horde iirc

KT is the actual bitch

[teal hedge]

I only play alliance

[fickle forge]

L races

[thick reef]

Oof

[teal hedge]

Both male

[fickle forge]

L races

[thick reef]

Male Space Goat

[teal hedge]

You see an mmo with all kinds of goons and you pick human?

Or short human?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[thick reef]

Female Human Warrior

[lean burrow]

I got 15 alts of all classes

all human

[teal hedge]

Space goat funny

Kronakai kristor

[thick reef]

Space Goat Rogues are funny to me

[teal hedge]

Cow goats are sillier

[fickle forge]

I'm waiting for Blizz to make vry'kuls a race

[lean burrow]

i'm waiting for human shamans

human druids

human dh

[teal hedge]

kul tiran

[lean burrow]

big belly

[teal hedge]

At least you play alliance

[thick reef]

Ah yes, getting closer to nature makes you a fatass

[teal hedge]

But I think humans look stupid

[fickle forge]

Man's out here killing off OG RPG for good

[teal hedge]

Blizz-fans when they don't understand how powerlifters are built

[fickle forge]

Getting closer to nature makes you a PL

• Tren users

[teal hedge]

POV: the orc that decided it was funny to try and gank alliance

[thick reef]

I'm not here to play a powerlifter, I'm here to play a "not"-weeb game

[teal hedge]

Kyriakos is a real kul tiran

[fickle forge]

• Anime pfp guy

[teal hedge]

The strongest people in the world are literally built like kul'tirans

Hafthor björnsson

Strongest man in the world

[lean burrow]

no big belly tho

[teal hedge]

Eh, kul tirans aren't that fat either

I think they look cool, and rough

[muted surge]

the best fighters arent tho

[teal hedge]

Their physique is very much a powerful one

[teal hedge]

They're mariners though, they don't fight, they lift

[lean burrow]

the heritage set just hides it

[scarlet flame]

glasses mog = auto dogshit

[teal hedge]

But yeah, I like the variety kul tirans add

[scarlet flame]

didn't he only win 1 time

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[scarlet flame]

wasn't he losing to a guy who was almost 10 years older than him

[teal hedge]

Still has gotten the accolade

Mark felix or whatever

Yeah he was crazy

[scarlet flame]

who was the east euro guy who was a few years back

i forgot his name

he was sick

[stark reef]

glasses on gnome only thing that makes it playable

[teal hedge]

East euro guy?

[scarlet flame]

gnome is dogshit

[teal hedge]

Brad shaw has been nr 1 the longest, I think

[scarlet flame]

he was really young, idk if he won

[teal hedge]

And then it jumped between him and Eddie Hall

[scarlet flame]

brad

[teal hedge]

*Brian

Damn these angloid names

[scarlet flame]

those comps are fun af to watch

[teal hedge]

Eh

Brian is a knucklehead

Magnus Samuelsson is my favourite

Jón Páll Sigmarsson was pretty cool as well

[green anchor]

fuck yea

[magic fossil]

Can someone please explain survivability between arms and fury?

I understand that arms is better right now, but when it comes to arena which of the two specs have better survivability into the average team comps? I know fury’s kit is based on consistent dmg and healing through Bloodthirst. What does Arms bring to the table that may or may not give it better “survivability/tankyness?” Sorry if this is an obvious question. I’m very new to the game and just looking for advice

[iron fractal]

Does the drakebreaker set not work in bg's?

The 6 set bonus to give versatiltiy isnt giving me anything when killing people.

But bg's.

[teal hedge]

Don't

Kul Tirans are too cool

[iron fractal]

Awh, that shucks.

[teal hedge]

How so?

Oh Jesus Christ

I mean, warrior has sorta clicked for me?

I'm pretty hardstuck around 1600 mmr

I got gladius up and running

GladiusEX*

Yeah, I always react to late to execution openings

Yeah I hate visual clutter

Actually makes me perform worse

[muted surge]

bcs your interface actually sucks

[teal hedge]

Is this bad?

I have standard raid-frames perpendicular to the gladius-frames

[muted surge]

maybe i have the wrong person in mind

someone here had a really cluttered ui

[teal hedge]

I just have gladiusEX :P

[iron fractal]

Sustained Strength or Waking stats for chest enchant? As arms.

[teal hedge]

Yeah, I need to figure out which keys I can have for targeting

[sharp meteor]

sustained

[teal hedge]

Is there a macro to use my stun on the healer and then return back to old target?

[muted surge]

targetlasttarget

[lean burrow]

you don't need to see this

[teal hedge]

Aren't those cooldowns?

[lean burrow]

configure and remove recently used spells and small cds

[teal hedge]

Will do

[muted surge]

isnt that one the necro shield

or do they share icons

[lean burrow]

just trinket is enough

you can add essentials on omnibar

[teal hedge]

Is there any way to make the spaces between the healthbars smaller?

[teal hedge]

So what would the macro be?

[muted surge]

is it ?

works for me atm

[teal hedge]

./target healer1
/cast Storm Bolt
/targetlasttarget ?

[muted surge]

normally @granite steppeget=arena1 or whatever it is cat stun

or @sterile wharf

[teal hedge]

The healer is usually arena 3 for me though

Or, it switches places

[muted surge]

its random

[lean burrow]

just rightclick on healer frame to focustarget, add modifier to your usual stun button

[teal hedge]

Well, is there anything to target JUST healers?

[muted surge]

no

[teal hedge]

How would this macro look?

[muted surge]

/cast [@granite steppeget=focus] storm bolt

or so

[lean burrow]

you don't even need macro, settings has "keybind for focus casting"

I use ctrl

[teal hedge]

Poor Tar

[lean burrow]

for me V is stun, ctrl V is focus stun

[muted surge]

i didnt even know that focus cast key is a thing

[lean burrow]

just right click on healer frame at the start of match

[teal hedge]

I use ctrl for my normal abilities though

[lean burrow]

ripbozo

[teal hedge]

And these are ingrained in my muscle-memory now

Cam

Can'

t

Can't switch em up

Oh my god, this small western keyboard can not handle my superior scandinavian fingers

[lean burrow]

then ctrl 3 for stun arena 1, shift 3 arena 2, alt 3 arena 3

idk

[teal hedge]

Hmmm

And I need a good targeting macro as well

F1-F3 feels a little cringe

[magic wing]

skullsplitter is so nice

[teal hedge]

Then how do you adjust your cam?

[magic wing]

just one two combo ppl outta nowhere every 30 secs lol

[lean burrow]

max zoom out

so your character is a dot on your screen

[teal hedge]

Yeah that's how I usually play

But I can get annoying when dancing around pillars

Because I use a shitty razer mouse my middle mouse button is broke

But I mapped flicking it left and right to mouse 3

So it works

Yeah, but my mouse is good and all

Just a shame it brokey :P

But I'll live

TARGETING IS SO EASY NOW

Turns out binding it to the mouse was the right move

I can now harass healer and kill target

I do less damage, but I feel I do better over all

*over-all

The targeting actually works, it feels very intuitive

Sure, I did bottom dps :P

But I got most dps-wins

[muted surge]

21m kek

[frail badge]

for solo queue is there a build that works best in that bracket? right now i am using the spear and mortal strike build in the pins and my goal is 1800 for the transmog

[muted surge]

roar

is way easier

so i would suggest that :)

[frail badge]

ok thanks ill try that

i have all honor gear and conquest weapon and chest so far and am just under 600 rating so far

i was told there is about 2 weeks left to try and get 1800 and i have got 1800 other seasons in the past on warrior and there classes so i think i might be able to pull it off especially now that solo queue is a thing

[muted surge]

1.8 takes a day

just dont lose :D

[frail badge]

thanks ill try lol

[frail badge]

thanks ill check that out

[iron fractal]

Should I enchant for leech.. or for speed? As arms doing bg's.

And wpvp

[magic wing]

Id say speed

[muted surge]

i absolutly hate sks

fuck that .<

[magic wing]

its so good tho

[pallid comet]

Is battle trance bugged? Im definitely rbing the same targe ttwice but the buff never goes out

doesnt show on my healing meters or anything

[teal hedge]

Oh my god, now that I don't ahve to focus on targeting my over-all focus has improived

[exotic storm]

basically dont run SS into pet comps

[frail badge]

ok i watched the video and i am using the build with no skullsplitter, is the openening the following? avatar, warbreaker, rend, mortal strike, dragonroar, then bladestorm?

[exotic storm]

yes GOGO cheerleader fungus!
ill have to make the swap since your making a good arguement

i do shat shox said awhile back- charge and smash. if they port away leap then avatar roar trinket bstorm

[frail badge]

ok thanks that helps

[teal hedge]

Oh my god these ret players, man

[exotic storm]

they still bursty bois

[teal hedge]

No no, the players themselves

What's happened

[exotic storm]

nerf scarred people

[teal hedge]

I've gotten three lobbies today where we all kill them easily

They just either hit their cds to early or not at all

[exotic storm]

i get people that just cant kite them

[teal hedge]

And we just gut the poor bastards

[exotic storm]

had a mage run from one and not spellsteal anything

[teal hedge]

No no, I'm not losing to em

I'm killing em', and it's easy

[thick reef]

I think he said Mother Licker…

[vapid tartan]

When is it worth dropping sks and running normal bleed? If kill target isn’t a dk or pal?

Or demo I guess

[wheat jay]

He's above tos

Tos is for mortals and rogues

[mild thunder]

[thick reef]

🤪

[mild thunder]

No

[sharp meteor]

is he shitting on 2k players or something

[stark reef]

No ignore pain, no ms/sharpen

Less tanky, less utility

And yes, Baj clearly smurfing. I can make Janna mid look good in gold elo, to.

[sharp meteor]

ya that'll do it

[stark reef]

Fury is not unplayable by any means. People get 3.2k+ in shuffle but highest arms is 3.5k so it’s about a 300pt gap at the top

[sharp meteor]

that's more just everybody playin arms

fury could be pushed a lot higher

might still be as we're coming to season end here

[stark reef]

I doubt fury could push higher tbh, those are the best players by all definitions

[sharp meteor]

i mean more higher mmr people rather than a small handful

cutoff is like 500 points lower

[stark reef]

Oh, for sure

[sharp meteor]

just cos everybody played fury

then dropped it

cos nerfed

and arms boofed

[stark reef]

Yeah, I don’t think it’s more than those 300pts assume the players are equally good

[mild thunder]

It can definitely be pushed higher, but no one wants to

Why waste time playing fury when you can play arms

[sharp meteor]

lmao the fury r1 cutoff dropped like 15 points in the last week actually

[stark reef]

Fury cutoff is like 2700

That’s super low

[sharp meteor]

prot cutoff is like 2k

[mild thunder]

Time to be a prot main

[sharp meteor]

i know the guy that's r1 prot rn gonna be funny if he gets it

he did it to bully some boomer who only played prot

[frail badge]

in my opening should i apply a rend with the rest of my stuff before i bladestorm? i am using the dragonroar build that bahjeera posted that as very kind linked to me earriler and he mention in the video that rend is not a high prioty abilty so i am not sure

[stark reef]

Until you are very high mmr getting into your Bladestorm asap will net you a lot value

Enemy team will cc into Bladestorm global

So you just eat it

Later on it’s more mind games

[mild thunder]

If you’re playing the bleed build, yea you want to maintain rend

[frail badge]

so right now i avatar, warbreaker, dragonroar, mortal strike and i save bladestorm for last

[stark reef]

Imo that’s dangerous

[frail badge]

idk if the build is considerd bleed based

[stark reef]

Big believer into early Bladestorm to protect offensive CDs

if you pop everything and eat a disarm you’re fkd

[frail badge]

thats a good idea ill do that i think first then and then the rest

[mild thunder]

TRoar = bleed build

Don’t just send bladestorm unless you need to

[frail badge]

like you said i did not think about the cc thhing and i do get cced a lot in the early part

[mild thunder]

Religiously using bladestorm during burst is bad

[frail badge]

oh

i always thought it was part of the opener burst

[stark reef]

Yes, I have to quantify - I talent into avatar Bladestorm vs heavy CC

So I pop it via avatar right after csmash

I also hold the second application for CC removal like Gala says

[frail badge]

for reference this is the build i am using that i was linked and i find it working better so far in solo queue thhen the spear build so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-SPSYGeHM

so if i am understanding yall right dont use bladestorm on burst opener and save it for thee cc break effect maybe?

[mild thunder]

Generally, yes

[frail badge]

ok thanks

[stark reef]

If he’s running reck / avatar I’ve seen great success with this into meele cleaves but not much into chasing ranged

[frail badge]

has it been like that for a long time? i never knew that

[mild thunder]

BMT vs WLT is almost entirely preference

Arms is broken af, just pick any random build, press W and get 2400

[stark reef]

I personally struggle with uptime vs better ranged players but that might be experience, to

Can confirm that W can be pressed to 2.1k but that’s where it stopped for me personally

[final tendon]

so is spear/unhinged build not the go-to anymore for arms? trying to push further in solo shuffle and taking a look at other warriors all using roar builds.

[craggy geyser]

Hey guys thinking of rolling a warrior for 10.1, how’s warrior looking for 10.1, and the best spec?

[mild thunder]

Play something that’s fun, not just what’s strong

[craggy geyser]

I’ve got 2 lvl 70s watching warrior the shit looks fun that’s exactly why I’m asking lmfao

[stark reef]

Using roar into anything that can’t kite me - spear into everything that runs.

Uptime > Everything else.

Experimenting with death sentence if I don’t run spear because also Uptime > Everything else.

I’ve used skill capped way back (mostly for league) and if you don’t mind the subscription that’s def the highest quality you’ll get

They have free stuff on YouTube

I do watch that when it applies to war

https://youtu.be/iY1F4SQNyRc

This for example is really good to get started

This is also good but a lot harder to implement - many of those theoretical videos will be “very logical” but what makes pros able to execute is repetition over and over again - the way i do these, i watch, play a week and watch again and check if I’ve been able to apply/retain https://youtu.be/EbMaURlnun0

Not really, just noticed I can’t climb past 2.1k without putting in some research so I’ve been looking at stuff like this the past few days

Actually losing rating trying to implement this but it’s normal

[craggy geyser]

Do you have any idea about warriors future in 10.1? I was told warrior is still going to kick ass

[stark reef]

Arms is always good

Def push 2k first

2k you just zug zug, watch first video, pick target, never swap

[craggy geyser]

How’s rotation for arms

Iight I like that as I’m super casual

[stark reef]

Simple - real skill is managing mobility, positioning and limits - knowing when you have enough to secure a kill and when to play around your healer

[craggy geyser]

Fantastic, not getting slammed in 10.1 I hope lol

[dark sparrow]

So ret/warr/fistweave still best comp to go as warr? Been away for a week so not sure how severe ret nerfs were

[sharp meteor]

ret still cracked

[dark sparrow]

Aight thanks, back to the 3s grind tmrw than

[shy beacon]

i had issues targeting a warlock on the zandalar map, specifically if they put their gateway at the top of the stairs in the middle section

i don't really know how to deal with that because the port cooldown felt low enough that even if i got up there they could jump down and then port back up

is lock just a bad target on this map or am i missing something?

[wheat jay]

Yes but its worthless

[wheat jay]

Damage loss is not worth it

Even when you're pressured you do damage

Your dmg output shouldnt really change no matter the situation

[mild thunder]

just go dstance

if you're willingly outputting zero pressure so you can sit in shield block or w/e, you're basically defaulting on the game

the best defensive is killing the enemy team

[sharp meteor]

ya but weak awk and inefficient

maybe maybe into like a physical cleave training you

if you've already lost ten times lmao

[frail badge]

does hamstring work with sweeping strikes?

[sharp meteor]

ye

[frail badge]

ok thanks i was not sure

[sharp meteor]

it also sweeps sharpen

and unhinged mortal strikes (which apply sharpen and consume overpower stacks)

[frail badge]

thanks, yeah i always try to use sweeping with sharpen blade

is the unhinged mortal strike a talent?

nm just found it

[glad pier]

Into rets should you take shattering throw for bubble or wrecking throw for shield of vengeance?

[magic wing]

I take shatter, if you time it right theres no bubble

[sharp meteor]

i think it depends on their team

in general i just go wrecking because like

i am never going to get a shatter off

intervene, disarm, warstomp, just lining, etc

[red igloo]

Guys i dont get this shit how did i get no rating this fight

[sharp meteor]

cus ur mmr sucks

basically if u lose a lot it puts u vs worse players

where you are expected to win

your mmr has improved so dw just keep queuing and winning

[red igloo]

thats stupid cause i won all the games on this character and then i lost 2 in a row

and then i did that game where i won

[sharp meteor]

it goes both ways don't worry about it

just keep at it

[mild thunder]

shatter bad

feels genuinely useless, just swap targets

[sharp meteor]

ya tab off and hit somebody else (remember to get back on ret asap tho lmao)

[wanton mulch]

hey i'm new to warrior, who can i watch to learn warrior pvp?

[stark reef]

Shatter is absolutely attrocious

Have won exactly 0 games with that

Rather run wrecking into everything and slam it into mage shield/vengeance shield and wait the bubble/block

[stark reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlaBlizeV7o&ab_channel=KurtzPrometheus

[gritty hearth]

Does wrecking throw with demolition destroy frost mage bc of all their shields?

[stark reef]

Shatter cast is to long for too little damage - you either get interrupted or the target is full health anyways by the time it's finished

Wrecking is just another thing you can do whilst walking towards a mage

Best case you cut through some shields, worst case you just hit him with something

This is for shuffle - possibly 3s allow for cleaner set-ups with better cross CC that actually make shatter playable

[red igloo]

guys what enchants should i put on my gear if any

[stark reef]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/shuffle/warrior/arms

[somber comet]

MUD

If he still streams.

[stark reef]

Gnome owns

[sharp meteor]

ya off global root break on short cd is great

[stark reef]

It's insanity

Slows, to

Like an unkitable demon-rat

🤣

[mild thunder]

arms needs bloodrage

[stark reef]

Yeah, loved that on fury

[frail badge]

is warbreaker or blunt instruments better or is it situational

[glass orchid]

Man I’m still struggling hard at 2200/2300

Can’t get over the hump games just feel so hard

In 3s that is

My team is like perma dead all the time, like we have a chance to die even when the healer isn’t ccd and opponents haven’t popped cooldowns

[mild thunder]

3s or solo?

[idle falcon]

ikr?

just spam BT and poof

[undone pumice]

depends on how many enemies you are facing imo

[glass orchid]

3s

I don’t seem to die that quick in solo, games often go to damp but damn in 3s it’s like getting hit by Nukes every stun go

[idle falcon]

seems like u need to git gud

[woeful solstice]

2400 has been hit. now for 50

[low pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bubble-sealed-away-forever-gif-25826821

Spear of Bastion

[idle falcon]

NOOO

[woeful solstice]

Until the spear bugs out and misses

[magic wing]

Every build feels shitty now compared to SKS wtf

[sonic mulch]

anyone have a rbg build

[woeful solstice]

yep

[lean burrow]

got 1..8k on demo

[teal hedge]

I think my mmr is finally stable around 1,6k

How did I manage to find this out?

I went 3/6 halfway through my sleep-meds

[quaint snow]

sks is bis build now or what?!?

[tawny brook]

Sks?

[torpid roost]

Skullsplitter

[vapid tartan]

Does it share Cd with trink?

[mild thunder]

no

[green agate]

As a human is it viable to go double dps trinkets as arms for rbg and solo shuffle? Seen alot of rets on my server high rated running double and just unsure if thats bc theyre paladin or human

[mild thunder]

cleansing our old home from the pirates

[fickle forge]

You gotta leave it behind dude

She's not coming back

[mild thunder]

we all know it should've been our legion class hall

[fickle forge]

And neither is she, although I miss her every day

[mild thunder]

run pennant mog and cosplay as a necrobanner abuser

[fickle forge]

Shadowlands classic when?

[mild thunder]

2030, blizz confirmed

[fickle forge]

I want her back

My 20 seconds of giga chad moment

[mild thunder]

i wish warr kept skull banner from DF beta

it's kinda cool to have that offensive team utility/buff

fits our "commander" theme well

[fickle forge]

Well yes

But raiding

As per usual

Can't have anything nice as long as people mald over not being 200% in control over their own parses

[mild thunder]

meanwhile arms still loses 6% dps just for not having an enh :))))

[fickle forge]

Heard Windfury is being malded over as well

Didn't they temporarily remove it on beta?

Or assign it to all sham specs

[mild thunder]

i think for like 1 week it was class-wide

[fickle forge]

Yeah, PvP and PvE existing in the same game is just going to bleed into PvP forever

[mild thunder]

yep

blizz should just make a standalone arena game

[fickle forge]

Any other PvP game you can support your team with buffs and combos

But in WoW, we take that away because else some comps will kill the dragon 3 seconds slower than others

[mild thunder]

blizz wants you to bring the player, not the class (even though every heroic-prog guild that specialises in grey parses only plays the most meta comp imaginable)

[magic wing]

LOL

"Specialises in grey parses" thats funny

[muted surge]

Rbg 100%

[magic wing]

GW2 pvp system is what WoW should be

Dont have to interact with pve at all

Even the pvp zone is completely separate

[sage raptor]

I started playing GW2 just last night

[magic wing]

Its a great game with imo best mmo combat system

[mild thunder]

you dont have to interact with pve in wow either...

[magic wing]

To a point yeah, still imagine a pvpers only hub. Kinda like Skyhold

With dueling arena and shit

[green agate]

Thats called outside of SW lmao

[mild thunder]

so all 2 people can gather together

[muted surge]

Bring back pvp servers

[muted surge]

Bdo has the best combat

Sadly evrerthing else sucks

[mild thunder]

never played it but BDO combat looks ass

[green agate]

bdo is clunky af

[mild thunder]

eastern-style MMOs always have the worst aesthetic

janky, over-the-top animations that make your character feel disconnected from the environment

[muted surge]

What, absolutely not

[teal hedge]

WoW has the best artstyle of any mmo

Big reason why I play it

[muted surge]

Problem is that bdo combat looks horrible if you watch it

But plays so good

[mild thunder]

i just want WoW 2

retcon everything post-wotlk and start fresh

[muted surge]

I just want the riot mmo

[mild thunder]

not enough info on it to be excited

i cant get excited about any game until oce servers are confirmed

[green agate]

its riot

there will be oce

[mild thunder]

not fair to say that when riot has never made an mmo before

competitive pvp games like LoL and valorant attract very different and wider playerbases than an mmo

[green agate]

not in oce lol

[elfin surge]

Hello friends

[mild thunder]

definitely in oce as well lmao

[muted surge]

Oce isn’t even real

[mild thunder]

there is some overlap in mmo and online-competitive players, but it's not very significant

[muted surge]

Just play in a real region

Idk with riot I just have the hope that the mmo won’t be p2w

[mild thunder]

goodbye

[green agate]

I dont know a single person who plays wow taht doesnt also play lol or val

[mild thunder]

you probably dont know that many casual/non-pvp focused players then

[green agate]

Normally id agrewe with you but with how insular oce is there is sooo much overlap between riot games and mmo gamers

[muted surge]

I know enough 50 year olds that just play wow

[green agate]

I have only got into pvp properly in s1 shadowlands and have been playing since wrath

everyone I know is not pvp focused

[mild thunder]

you also dont want to necessarily attract mmo players that also dabble in league/valorant, you want to attract league/valorant players and get them into MMOs

it's not the same people

[green agate]

im just saying theres no way we dont get oce server

[mild thunder]

and im saying that's cope

[green agate]

we got ffxiv oce servers

hell even swtor is now getting oce server

[mild thunder]

cap

swtor released with oce servers iirc, but they were shut down

[green agate]

I know but now its coming back

[mild thunder]

probably a bad decision if they do

it's just an unfortunate fact, oce region generally doesnt provide enough of a playerbase to sustain itself

[green agate]

the more you speak the more of a doomer you sound lmao

its not just for oce its for south asia as well

[mild thunder]

you can say i sound like a doomer, but there's a reason these companies generally dont invest in the oceanic region lmao

it's usually not worth the hassle and money-sink

[green agate]

im not disagreeing with that but with a company that has historically done exactly that I don't see why they wouldnt for a new major release

new world did and that was a brand new IP

[mild thunder]

because they have never made an MMO before

[mild thunder]

and now all 20 new world oce players can enjoy their server

[green agate]

riot has never published an mmo yea

the people who are MAKING the mmo have tho

[elfin surge]

kayyyy

[mild thunder]

the people that are designing the MMO dont get to make the large-scale financial decisions of where to invest their server infrastructure

[mild thunder]

lumberjack cleave s2?

[bright stream]

its not really a problem anymore with containerisation hosted by telstra/etc

[mild thunder]

still doesnt solve the population issue

[bright stream]

I think that's probably more of a problem tbh

but seems like aussies really like gaming/mmos

we often have really significant pops for games relative to EU/US

just thinking about new world from recent memory

[mild thunder]

the riot mmo probably will have oce servers, but you're dumb and/or naive if you think it's guaranteed

[bright stream]

I think riot will but not from a money perspective

I think it's an image/reputation thing

[mild thunder]

i dont think they really care about that tbh

[bright stream]

they're definitely trying to move more into a larger identity as a game dev company

so I could seem them justifying minor region support for that reason

[mild thunder]

it'll be the same it always is - boiling down to numbers

[bright stream]

the question really is

[mild thunder]

they can be certain that there'll be enough oce players on launch to justify the servers, but whether it can be sustained for >6 months is another question

[bright stream]

if riot does an mmo, and it's good - because they're one of maybe 2 companies tht can actually do that

what happens to wow?

[mild thunder]

depending on how riot mmo goes, i honestly wouldnt be surprised to see blizz make a big move away from wow over the next ~10 years

[bright stream]

they don't have another IP that's big enough is the problem

[mild thunder]

i dont see blizz having the creative drive to compete with another big, well-funded competitor

[bright stream]

OW1 was good for a while but it's dying well and truly now

star craft has been dead for centuries

[mild thunder]

warcraft 4, the return

most of the minds behind blizzard's most iconic IPs are all gone, if they did move on from wow they would have to create a new identity or just poorly recreate existing franchises

[bright stream]

that doesn't bother me so much

DF is the best wow has been in a very long time

OW2 is a dumpster fire though

[mild thunder]

actually, isnt Chris Metzen back at blizzard?

[bright stream]

yep

[mild thunder]

he can make a brand-new universe for blizzard that they can shit on and ruin in 15 years time

[bright stream]

I don't think they'll sell that tbh

how do you build a universe that competes with WoW?

[mild thunder]

i mean, it's not like wow is a particularly compelling or interesting world anymore

hasnt been in a looong time

SL was literally avengers; infinity war but in the afterlife

[teal hedge]

I really liked Pandaria

[wary heart]

danuser is a hack

legit lifted it straight out of thanos land, even made the guy blue, mentally bankrupt trash

[lean burrow]

danuser

more like

damnuser

[mild thunder]

Gottem

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-dab-gif-19873932

cringe humor

[mild thunder]

[warped warren]

[teal hedge]

I wish for mud to be back 💔

[magic wing]

True

[teal hedge]

I'm so old I remember when MUD still was alive...

[magic wing]

I actually enjoy pvp

[teal hedge]

^One of the biggest reasons I got dragonflight

[warped warren]

i remember @elfin surge playing prot pala

[teal hedge]

I heard many good things about accessibility, especially with PvP

So I decided it was time

That and the fact that I needed a more comforting game to play

And considering I'm less than half a year older than WoW, I thought it would be a little funny

I remember visting my uncle and seeing him on his orc in dalaran

[magic wing]

I actually never enjoyed rated pvp till now

And I got duelist before lol

[teal hedge]

I watched Soda and Swifty during MoP

I was 8 - 12 years old 💀

[warped warren]

[teal hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri9_ovK4z_4&ab_channel=Swifty

This shit came out when I was 10

And I got to vote last year, I am allowed to buy alcohol and get a driver's license

[mild thunder]

mop

take me back

[magic wing]

Yeah Soda always got me excited for arenas

But he only plays shit classes

[teal hedge]

Druid

[peak saddle]

D-E-A-D G-A-M-E

[teal hedge]

I get consistant 15-30 minute queues

But yeah, the queues are quite something, I hope blizzard adds something that incentivices picking healer.

[sharp meteor]

healing is stressful and has no actual rewards so ye

if they don't add any and shuffle isn't freelo next seas is dead mode

[teal hedge]

The one guy I queued 3v3s with just dipped

Absorbed; he is no more

[mild thunder]

i hope so

[teal hedge]

Galachimp

What kinda music you listen to?

[mild thunder]

i dont really listen to music tbh

[teal hedge]

Then how do you get your mojo for pvp?

[mild thunder]

by tanking rating

[teal hedge]

I find that listening to songs with good rhythm helps me from tilting too hard

Also helps me keep my rotation up .P

[mild thunder]

nahhh

embrace the tilt

https://tenor.com/view/cackles-star-wars-sheev-palpatine-gif-15366449

[teal hedge]

I did find I got a little russophobic without music

But honest to god, most russian people I meet in games are either toxic hellspawn or the chillest people on planet earth

[quaint snow]

gotta listen to the ingame sounds for insta 300+ CR

[mild thunder]

putin better watch out, @teal hedge is getting russophobic

[quaint snow]

[teal hedge]

Isn't that the word for racist against russians?

European racism is based on ethnicity and not race

[mild thunder]

nah, that's "based"

eurocucks

[teal hedge]

Well yeah, as a swede enemy number 1 is Russia

But they were pretty chill during the eighties

[muted surge]

Swedes are all racist anyway

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[lean burrow]

forsen

[teal hedge]

Nazi party got a whopping 20,54% of all of the votes

Sverigedemokraterna, founded by Gustav Ekström, SS-volunteer and national socialist

Currently a supporting party within the government, which means that our government is about 50% conservative and 50% nationalist/nazi

Sweden is very much a racist hellhole atm

[lean burrow]

forsen is a nazi

[teal hedge]

He might not be!

The votes were 50/50

[lean burrow]

half nazi

[teal hedge]

Sweden literally went from an anti-hate flourishing country to a nationalist/conservative hellhole

What the hell maan

Maaaaaan

Just as Sweden needed Medina, Timbuktu and Panetoz the most, they vanished 😭

Though the party I voted for at least hit top 4 😎

[muted surge]

The sad thing is that they aren’t the only ones

Nazis are upcoming again

[teal hedge]

Yeah, and what I despise the most is that SD keeps trying to rid themselves off their guilt

As soon as I point out that they are nazis I get harassed for voting for the former communist party

Thing is, the leftist party has reformed

SD hasn't

That is their party-secretary Björn Söder posing proudly with SS-veteran Franz Schönhuber.

[bright stream]

@mild thunder reckon I'm chillin for the rest of the season

another very rough series of games

fury super heavy unless you're running into warlocks

[teal hedge]

You should 2v2s with me

Then we'll lose together

[teal hedge]

Starting the day with a hot 0/6

[muted surge]

Keep it going bud!

[craggy geyser]

Hey guys, I’m using murlock.io for the build I’m using. I’m brand new to arms warrior. Any input on whether this is a good idea? I know there’s always some alternatives to the build but any insight would be solid like I said I’m brand new to warrior

[teal hedge]

I turned it into a 1/6

Healer didn't wanna cleanse me 🤷

[teal hedge]

If you look at MUD, he's got a pretty good idea of what to go for

[muted surge]

Who’s this mud

[craggy geyser]

On murlock or where do I find him? Also, where are you guys learning rotation? I hear it’s brain dead but I’m still figuring it all out

[teal hedge]

Hit mortal strike as much as possible, otherwise overpower

If you run bleed, make sure to keep rend up

Colossal and Avatar for BIG DAM

Roar and Bladestorm are also burst-like moves, but try to group people together for roar

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/icecrown/mud

Yeah

From what I've gathered bleed burst is hitting avatar, colossal, tror and then bladestorm

(I run unhinged)

I might, I might

What's it bring to the rotation?

When do I press the funny button?

[craggy geyser]

Okay I’m running skull splitter also

Bleed build

[teal hedge]

What's deep wound?

[muted surge]

You use Rend twice

Not only once

Unless it’s already applied

[teal hedge]

Wait, why use rend twice?

[muted surge]

Bcs the duration stacks

Extra 5 or 6 seconds

Means more sks dmg

Or you use rend above 6 sec left

But you want max duration

[teal hedge]

This shit so fucking insane

I go 1/6 I lose 70 rating

I got 4/6 I gain 9 rating

But other than the setup, you never press skullsplitter?

What about thundering roar?

Oh there we go

Maybe I get skullsplitter....

But what is deep wounds?

Isn't that the arms passive?

[muted surge]

Mastery

K not really

[teal hedge]

I see it

[muted surge]

It’s arms passive ye

[teal hedge]

So wait, does skullsplitter run mastery?