There are no Rogues in WoW anymore.
#pvp
undone pumice
last orbit
what trinkets would i use for arms and what pvp talents?
sharp meteor
?
last orbit
would i use badge or insignia
then for the 3 pvp talents what do i use?
teal hedge
Somebody just afk'd through two of my rounds and then dc'd, AND I LOST 12 RATING?
spice hornet
Did you lose those 2 rounds lol
Prenerf ret last week had leavers all day within rounds 1-2 was hilarious
teal hedge
Course I lost those two rounds, the healer was the afk one :P
I am trying to hardest to get past 900 rating
But I'm doing better now. Hitting the funny ccs
*cds
spice hornet
They changed it so that you get get rating calculated in the rounds you played
Sucks if you get the afk guy
teal hedge
What the hell, man
spice hornet
People were getting pissed they’d win 5 rounds and the retard FOTM disc who was 0-5 would just afk out
spice hornet
Thats oretty unlucky
I think I’ve had like 1 or 2 afker games
Where they joined afk from round 1
MYbe it’s cause you’re at that rating
Need to get a few 6-0s
wheat jay
Fungus stuck in elohell?
teal hedge
Yeah
spice hornet
Big 900 ELO hell
elfin surge
i had a super sketchy shuffle yesterday
priest healer was "lagging"
would run out and afk, pressing one heal every 7 seconds of being afk
teal hedge
How do I le capture it?
fossil mortar
900 MMR, don't we start at 1600 or so?
fossil mortar
How do I le capture it?
Download a capture software (obs is a decent choice), then upload it to say YouTube as a private video, then give us the link.
spice hornet
Jesus that mmr
fossil mortar
Not as far as I know
teal hedge
elfin surge
900mmr is pretty low
sharp meteor
priest healer was "lagging"
final day of the season gonna be fun isn't it
elfin surge
i wanna see what hes doing
sharp meteor
people with beef in same lobby
teal hedge
Yeah I struggled through my placements as I only had blue honour-gear
elfin surge
i swear if u show your gameplay
we can point out a few things
that will instantly make u climb
teal hedge
Aight, I'll record next game
sharp meteor
just doing damage is pretty important, and gear is a large part of that
it's relatively late in the season and conq boxes out so most people gonna be heavily geared
teal hedge
Yeah, I noticed that!
elfin surge
@teal hedge even daily bgs and weekly bg quests give good conquest if you're still not geared
teal hedge
How to I make it record wow?
fossil mortar
MUD is toxic thinking "I can easily get 3k on my 221 SL season 1 warrior". Very toxic my man
sharp meteor
900 MMR, don't we start at 1600 or so?
ya everybody starts at 1500 mmr
i think every placement lobby is only people in placements
minus the healers
going 6-0 puts you at like 2000-2050 mmr
fossil mortar
1800 is my elohell, I can't imagine 900
sharp meteor
900 is like bots
elfin surge
MUD is toxic thinking "I can easily get 3k on my 221 SL season 1 warrior". Very ...
yes im known for being toxic
sharp meteor
walk in press 123 and do more dmg than all 3 others combined
elfin surge
im retired
fossil mortar
No... But if you are... That leaves only Bajhera
Well, always got admin i guess
Asmon*
spice hornet
I’ve smoked mud a few times
elfin surge
fossil mortar
Natbabes is the reason he retired,the plot thickens
spice hornet
Mud retired cause Dekel beat him in a duel in wrath
teal hedge
But how do I use obs lmao
elfin surge
spice hornet
I’m in Paris rn want anything ? @elfin surge
fossil mortar
But how do I use obs lmao
First set it to capture gameplay WoW. Then do the test option on the preview screen to see if you are showing anything you don't want to. After that setup, you can press the record option (under the stream button). Press it to start recording and again to stop
elfin surge
i love mag
spice hornet
How can I get Magnus to message me like dat
elfin surge
🤔
teal hedge
First set it to capture gameplay WoW. Then do the test option on the preview scr...
Which button do I target wow with?
fossil mortar
Sweed 
teal hedge
This is true
fossil mortar
Scenes, add, game, warcraft
bright cloak
IIRC you have to set a capture window from Källör.
bright cloak
teal hedge
There we go
fossil mortar
There ya go, now activate that as your sceneplay in OBS, and you are basically done
fossil mortar
We got gameplay soon boyos
When you upload it, remember to link it in #810664169140518947
elfin surge
teal hedge
Wouldn't want you villains having to listen to sewerslvt
Oh my god obs is killing my performance, though
Ör maybe that's just valdrakken
fossil mortar
Only 11 min avg, while I got 48 min 
teal hedge
You people us or eu?
Cause I'm thinking EU is harder than NA, as is customary with games
teal hedge
Listen, have you ever had to try to coordinate something with someone that doesn't speak a mutual language?
Had me learning russian phrases to get drops in cs 😭
fossil mortar
Have you tried making two americans work together for a common goal?
teal hedge
Have you tried making two americans work together for a common goal?
Manifest Destiny
Oh, that and just straight up racism :P
Danish people do NOT like us
(which is reciprocated)
fossil mortar
No one in Scandinavia likes you 
fossil mortar
Mud, chicken topping or beef?
fossil mortar
toxic, wow, much hurt
elfin surge
Mud, chicken topping or beef?
dn
teal hedge
No one in Scandinavia likes you <a:noahwhite:800552532631617546>
The finns and norwegians
How come norwegians feel the need to flex all of the time? To prove themselves?
fossil mortar
Let's be honest, Iceland is also a member of the club
teal hedge
Oooh game time
fossil mortar
elfin surge
@teal hedge ill check it out in 30min
elfin surge
teal hedge
But this game felt like sort of an outliar? The paladin wasn't geared properly lmao
vestal oxide
Heh guys, how often do you use slam? As filler or not at all? I'm kinda short in binding tho
fossil mortar
I dont even got it bound
teal hedge
Heh guys, how often do you use slam? As filler or not at all? I'm kinda short in...
I use rend instead
teal hedge
Okay I tried to focus more on the funny stuff but it hurts
Oh my god I might be doing worse lmao
I AM LOSING SO HARD
I am actually going to pull a 0/6
No idea what's going on
I might be getting too greedy with fatality.
last orbit
holy cow this compared to dev evoker is so much easier and better
quaint snow
Okay I tried to focus more on the funny stuff but it hurts
funny stuff? 
dark sparrow
Had me learning russian phrases to get drops in cs 😭
Why? All you had to say was “blyat ak”
teal hedge
Why? All you had to say was “blyat ak”
Then they'd respond in the same manner :P
wooden grove
Still, I topped damage 😎
Top damage doesn’t matter when you lose 😦
teal hedge
Top damage doesn’t matter when you lose 😦
wooden grove
Ngl if you weren’t focusing on damage rotation you might’ve gotten off a cc chain that won the round
teal hedge
But I'm gonna hold off on recording until I hit yet another struggle
WAIT NO
WHY DO WE HAVE TANKS INSTEAD OF HEALERS?
I am so not used to not having a healer
Oh my god
It's literally just a tank-off
I do no damage and I try my hardest to live
quaint snow
ignore pain on cooldown
quaint snow
deff stance, impending victory,
quaint snow
true
teal hedge
Seriously, the round I won I just popped cd 24/7 and hid while my team killed those that pursued me
Not fun at all
Any way to make gold from pvp?
I am le poor
sharp meteor
I just buy the honor shields for 425 honor ea and vendor for like 60g
best bet for gold is playing the patch hype thing, like recently it was zul'gurub and zul'farrak
teal hedge
I am now a combatant?
quaint snow
around 10k gold per hour
teal hedge
I broke the 1k barrier by dominating a game and hitting 5/6
teal hedge
But pvp feels ultra-satisfying now that I've figured a bunch of stuff out (mostly thanks to you guys!)
quaint snow
also good to make all the daylie pvp quests
teal hedge
But hitting filthy 100k executes, even on a bleed build is crazy
teal hedge
Yeah I haven't finished campaign yet
quaint snow
do you have charge hamstring macro?
teal hedge
I have not fixed that yet
quaint snow
#showtooltip charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/equipset
/cast [nomod] Charge
/cast [nomod] Hamstring
/cast [mod:alt, @focus] Charge
/cast [mod:alt, @focus] Pummel
/cast [mod:shift, @focus] Charge
/cast [mod:shift, @focus] Intimidating Shout
/startattack
- execute macro so you can cancel bladestorm and execute when needed
#showtooltip Execute
/startattack
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [nomod] Execute
last orbit
get more action bars
teal hedge
I have three
quaint snow
you just change this charge macro
to your normal charge
and the execute one on your execute bar
teal hedge
But I do not use pummel
quaint snow
doesnt matter
teal hedge
I play bleed
teal hedge
Rend would be better though?
quaint snow
ignore that part
teal hedge
Rend does more damage and has DoT
sharp meteor
around 10k gold per hour
Remember to only do stuff like this in queue or w/e because slaving away for the equivalent of fifty cents of gold an hour just ain't it.
quaint snow
Remember to only do stuff like this in queue or w/e because slaving away for the...
haha i buy tokens when i need gold xD
cba
but while in solo q and nothing to do not bad i guess
last orbit
watch memes and do wq from df and sl for gold
its braindead and gives you enough gold to buy all the enchants and whatnot that we need
eager oracle
Are the pinned builds from 1/25 still updated? Just looking to zugzug solo shuffle. *edit: as arms
teal hedge
Builds work
quaint snow
My second shuffle after 10.07 hit
i had so much fear from rets
they are still op though
teal hedge
I feel like swifty in these battlegrounds
last orbit
what weak auras do people use for arms for pvp?
teal hedge
Piercing howl my beloved
teal hedge
I am going to drop out of glad.
Playing with a really poor ret and a mid healer.
I LIVED
teal hedge
Incomprehensible
spice hornet
You climbing big dawg
narrow bobcat
That looks sweaty
teal hedge
Fuck the hunter, kill the ret and marry the aff
mild thunder
could not be more cringe if they tried
imagine
not being able to crit
as ww
goodbye kill potential
spice hornet
Amp curse of weakness is so busted
sharp meteor
mang ret players unironically thought that pre-nerf their spec was "fine"
mild thunder
(ignore kyrian oneshots all of SL)
near delta
mang ret players unironically thought that pre-nerf their spec was "fine"
I've seen the most ludicrous bubbles ever the last couple weeks
mild thunder
killed ppl without even targetting them.
idk what's worse
20yd oneshots w/ no CDs vs divine toll oneshots w/o targeting someone
thick reef
idk what's worse
20yd oneshots w/ no CDs vs divine toll oneshots w/o targeting ...
yeah same lol
thick reef
lmao yea
mild thunder
1min sac, team dispel, sanc, aoe blind, bop, magi bop, freedom, lay on hands
like fuck
chill
near delta
and the fucking utility
Had a game yesterday
mild thunder
and being unkillable juggernauts
near delta
Was literally won
And then then the ret just bops himself and sacs the other dos
*dps
mild thunder
:)))))
love it
i love that you have to cc the ret every go otherwise he dispels/sancs all your cc
or just sacs so you cant kill
but then he also bops/bubbles his own cc
so you cant
icy bridge
also lost a game to a ret pal
who bubbled to me casting 2 ambushes and running around a pillar to LoS and reset
4 seconds after I ran behind a pillar mind ya
wheat jay
@mild thunder do I forsake my sanity and all intelligence and full send tsg with kargo?
mild thunder
into this meta? i wouldnt
if you're not playing with a ret, there's no point queueing 3s i stg
and the nerf on reset does literally zero to help us as kitty cleave
wheat jay
10.1
wheat jay
@fickle forge we have a blessing of random dude from skyhold, we're good to go
mild thunder
fdk will still have all the problems it has now
but the burst will be even better
actually, will the burst be better? not really
their burst is crit-reliant, so the tier set really only offsets the crit nerf
wheat jay
Dont waste mobility skills
sharp meteor
You need mobility behind your damage.
Getting kited when nothing is going on isn't ideal but you need to be able to stick when it matters.
modern pilot
what drs with intimidating shout? just disorient stuff? what about warlock fear
mild thunder
what drs with intimidating shout? just disorient stuff? what about warlock fear
other fears, cyclone
mild thunder
main stat for pvp?
lean burrow
what drs with intimidating shout? just disorient stuff? what about warlock fear
everything that blinds too
sage raptor
yeah it DRs fast. I imagine you'd only use it in bgs.
modern pilot
Getting kited when nothing is going on isn't ideal but you need to be able to st...
ah so stock up before a colussus smash or something?
sharp meteor
like ideally have charge/leap up for smash so you can follow their mobility
modern pilot
i dont think my ret has freedom bound lol
how about here?
went bm
was a success
modern pilot
warbringer or bladestorm pvp talent into mage?
lilac musk
I've got a fresh 60 warrior that I'd like to level through BGs, but I can't use the Crimson pvp gear until 70 correct? If so, what other gear options are most efficient that I can use in the short term?
lean burrow
warbringer or bladestorm pvp talent into mage?
both?
or drop bladestorm since shuffle games are fast
spark zenith
Dont waste mobility skills
The trouble I have is getting to when when I'm insta rooted, taking big dmg. It's rare that a frost mage let's me ride to them unchallenged. So, I burn a mobility to get there and am then behind the ball from there on.
spark zenith
warbringer or bladestorm pvp talent into mage?
Both
spark zenith
or drop bladestorm since shuffle games are fast
They're even faster if I die because I'm rooted by the mage, take the short bladestorm
last orbit
what is the burst rotation for arms?
and for only one day of not knowing anything already being at 1400 in ss is crazy considering how long it took me to get here on my dev evoker
lean burrow
and for only one day of not knowing anything already being at 1400 in ss is craz...
you start at 1500
piercing howl+2 overpowers+stun+cs+avatar with unhinged
(actually i don't know)
last orbit
you start at 1500 mmr yes, but 0 rating
signal shadow
last orbit
The issue i find with spear is that people can just get out of it or dodge it
river trench
anyone know why i would have just gotten both the vicious sabertooth and the war gorm mount? not complaining just didnt expect it
lean burrow
I just had a brewmaster go 6-0 in my lobby. How do we even beat that?
what does brewmaster even do?
you were probably rekt like those guys in mists of pandaria trailer
shuffle lobby
low pasture
shuffle lobby
Very funny scene
undone pumice
pretty sure brewmaster just makes you want to die by being immortal amd perma micro ccing you
spice hornet
Next season glad mount
vital prism
hey, usually in rated bg's, which dps specs get priorities?
low pasture
Next season glad mount
Fake news, this is the real glad mount next season.
spice hornet
I wish that was it
spice hornet
hey, usually in rated bg's, which dps specs get priorities?
Like invited? Rogues, dhs, mm hunters, boomys, locks
vital prism
Like invited? Rogues, dhs, mm hunters, boomys, locks
ah ok, ty. Wait, so warriors are not that high on the list huh
is it because of the lack of utility?
spice hornet
Yeah lately been like that
vital prism
ah dang
spice hornet
If they do invite you you’re usually a target caller which isn’t fun
You can still get hero and stuff tho
spice hornet
You can still get hero and stuff tho
muted surge
War is still prio tho, but depends on the comp
Most pugs just play some rot comp
Where war doesn’t fit in
They don’t value the bleed :(
vestal oxide
hello guys , question , do you Double stack Exec buff for MS ? or you go 1 Exec 1 Ms ?
quick carbon
if u get to execute twice back to back then u might as well double stack it
if there’s no Ms debuff then just Ms
vestal oxide
Got it thanks
idle falcon
guys do you take "Fueled by Violence"?
idle falcon
im not doing bleed build though
teal hedge
Then idk
quick carbon
u don’t need healing I don’t even spec into impending cuz healing is admitting that someone else is more alpha than you, just kill them first and prove your dominance
vital prism
guys, for arms do u use rend and slam as part of your rotation?
teal hedge
I use rend a lot, and I run a bleed build.
Generally though, these are lesser priority than mortal strike and overpower.
green anchor
guys, for arms do u use rend and slam as part of your rotation?
take slam off your bars
use Rend
vital prism
got it, ty
stark reef
If I transform it, does it still scale to 424 in pvp?
sharp meteor
ya
stark reef
ok
sharp meteor
pvp too complicated to accurately sim
not to mention sims are often written to not use pvp stuff
like it's going to spit out numbers assuming you aren't bolting hamstringing etc
stark reef
i see
amber monolith
Question: How's PVP treating us? I stopped queueing since ret buffs.
stark reef
Started with zero prior experience at 408, got to this rating, now getting trained by people in full glad gear who are somehow at the same rating
Feelsgoodman
sharp meteor
Question: How's PVP treating us? I stopped queueing since ret buffs.
still not worth playing without a ret
stark reef
Do PvP gear upgrades matter in PvP since the ilvl is already 424 in arenas? Aka, does it matter if it's 1/9 or 9/9?
sharp meteor
upgrades are just pve
stark reef
Actually nice
I was shocked seeing people with 9/9 in my games rocking blue gear
But if it doesn't matter it's not that massive of a gap
So what do I spend honor on once fully blue geared?
stray lantern
Is fury or arms better rn
stark reef
🤝
modern pilot
anyone notice that execute has a delay to it sometimes?
like you press it, the animation starts, but no dmg happens if they somehow get out of range
elfin surge
@spice hornet
elfin surge
@amber temple yo
green anchor
anyone notice that execute has a delay to it sometimes?
with Massacre talent you mean
it plays the Condemn animation that takes longer than normal Execute animation
teal hedge
Scared of rolling pvp, I do NOT wanna rank down out of combatant
spice hornet
@elfin surge how much for a carry again this season? Same deal $50 itunes gift card?
elfin surge
teal hedge
This healer not doin any workj
Having to put in leg work for once
This shit so satisfying
We chilling
I am actually doing better in these arenas.
elfin surge
spice hornet
fickle forge
@elfin surge how much for a carry again this season? Same deal $50 itunes gift card?
elfin surge
i dont get this meme
quaint snow
fuck ret demo lock and bm hunter lobby my nightmare
teal hedge
Combatant 2
spice hornet
i dont get this meme
sly walrus
modern pilot
playing ret war in 2v2 do we just ooga booga healers every game?
fresh valve
ya but nobody wants to play
teal hedge
*no healers wanna play
fresh valve
im talkin about 3s specifically btw
rotund trellis
I am leveling and playing alts to learn the classes, are the wowhead guides for pvp somewhat reliable?
I'm not, that I can say for sure lol
idle falcon
fury warrior pvp talents?
teal hedge
fury warrior pvp talents?
There are builds pinned
stray lantern
When ms procs is it better to use it with 1 overpower, or let the proc fall off and get the second overpower before you use it
teal hedge
new hybrid one\
I don't play fury, but I'd look each build up and then maybe compare playstyles and take the one you prefer.
idle falcon
which is better pvp
teal hedge
These are both pvp builds
teal hedge
Arms is stronger, but fury is not far behind.
Play the one you prefer, the one you're better with :)
teal hedge
I mean, I think arms is more interactive than fury, so that's what I play. But seriously, pick the one you like more, or even like the idea of more, and go for it! :)
mild thunder
When ms procs is it better to use it with 1 overpower, or let the proc fall off ...
Just mortal strike
idle falcon
lol i just won against a pali and an arms warrior as fury
mild thunder
Stacking OP is just a natural part of the rotation, not something you really do intentionally very often
mild thunder
Arms is stronger, but fury is not far behind.
Fury is definitely far behind. Arms is one of the strongest PvP specs in the game, and fury is the worst
mild thunder
btw can someone tell me rotation of fury
Depends on build
mild thunder
Rampage > onslaught > execute > rb > bt
idle falcon
pvp talents?
mild thunder
If there’s no ms effect in your team, take slaughterhouse
Warbringer, enduring rage, bloodrage are all strong as well
And obviously disarm if you need it
But a good go-to is slaughterhouse, warbringer, bloodrage
Swap the slaughterhouse for enduring if you don’t need it
Swap warbringer for disarm if you need it
last orbit
fury is not the worst, that honor belongs to dev evoker.
rotund trellis
one thing I can say, as I'm leveling alts. Paladins are freaking fun to play
(finally)
rotund trellis
warrior is better obv
mild thunder
fury is not the worst, that honor belongs to dev evoker.
that's just not true, dev has a niche that it performs very well
wheat jay
Disgusting amounts of dmg
mild thunder
arguably the scariest burst in the game
at least pre-ret
there's a reason fdk/devo was in AWC and fury wasn't lol
mild thunder
beta
mild thunder
i believe in you, king
mild thunder
he wont play turb?
mild thunder
that's fair, melee cleaves arent super fun
wheat jay
He liked KFC because me and him were big braining CC chains and anti-cc peels
And Kargish just did damage
And used ocassional disarm and intervene
wheat jay
Id play with you
mild thunder
but EU
mild thunder
id get like 300ms on eu servers
wheat jay
Same as me
mild thunder
sounds icky
wheat jay
mild thunder
idk how you play like that
wheat jay
That's the secret cap, I don't
For real tho, I got used to the lag
You all adapted the lag when you come from na to eu
I was Born in it
Molded by it
mild thunder
ive gotten used to the 100-120ms playing on US servers
wheat jay
I didnt see a stable connection until was already a man
mild thunder
but 300 is a no-go
fresh valve
US need that Singapore internet
brazen rock
galachad for stormforged when
bring back weekly physique/lift posts and maybe ill pvp again
mild thunder
galachad for stormforged when
archimtiros doesnt like me enough
rip
is there any better feeling than clapping warr/ret? i think not
sage raptor
There is not
mild thunder
played 3 games today, ret/bm, ret/demo and ret/warr
it's not gonna get any better on tuesday either
mild thunder
hard to say for certain, but probs
lime fossil
why is this season so dumb i want to play hunter and warr but they aren't represented in any bracket
lime fossil
nah look at 2v2 and 10v10 ladder
mild thunder
the two most irrelevant brackets?
lime fossil
not a single warr top like 30 in 10v10 1 warr in 2v2
out of like 50 ppl
sure if you don't play them lol
mild thunder
2s is dead
rbgs are for losers
lime fossil
theyre relevant to people that play them
fresh valve
pvp is relevant to people that play it
mild thunder
if you're still pushing 2s, you're way, way behind the times
mild thunder
well all im saying is you said they aren't represented in ANY bracket
and then listed the two most irrelevant brackets
instead of the main brackets in which arms and bm are both thriving
lime fossil
only 5 warr out of top 100 in 3s
so you're wrong there too
also you're still calling those brackets irrelevant
which they aren't
mild thunder
there's 8
fresh valve
nobody cares tho
mild thunder
count for me
mild thunder
but even if there wasn't, it's pretty well established and understood that arms and bm are both top, top tier specs right now
fresh valve
why u obsessed with r1 players
thats like saying a spec sucks because it wasnt in rwf or awc
fresh valve
it definitely can in this game
wheat jay
Man's either a troll or an idiot
scarlet flame
are arms warrior dogshit because they suck 1v1
i only duel so warriors are clearly bad
fresh valve
im r1 in duels bro
scarlet flame
yeah but theres only 1 warrior out of 100 top duelers so they have to be garbage everywhere
mild thunder
Bunch of fakes in here
frank knoll
mild thunder
nuked?
i mean, they still have insane dmg, oneshot burst on a 1 min cd, two 1min walls, 1min sac, sanc, bop, LoH, bubble, 20yd range on all their abilities and a spam self-dispel
somehow, somehow
i think they'll be fine
fresh valve
these are reparations dude stop bein insensitive
mild thunder
yea idk what that suggestion is lol - "have two trees for ret"
that'd be horrible
they should just do what most competitive games do for reworks and new releases
ban them from ranked pvp
woeful solstice
ppl are gonna just rmt the mount
dont people just get banned for that?
woeful solstice
why is this season so dumb i want to play hunter and warr but they aren't repres...
wtf are you smoking arms and bm are top tier
clever igloo
hi im first time playing warrior, whats the gameplay difference between spear talent and roar talent
last orbit
Spear requires aim
fresh valve
dont people just get banned for that?
you can kill the roaches you see but not the ones you cant see
last orbit
(sorry for the joke response but its a main difference)
fresh valve
thats not real proof of rmt tho
woeful solstice
true
how the fuck do they even prove it then
i remember there was some big ban waves in SL
fresh valve
also there are some people at high ranks that barely touch shuffle
last orbit
is it true most of the big streamers do RMT or is that cope
i knew in bfa and sl they had carries but those where mostly give aways from watching the stream and not RMT
fresh valve
those people have more connections than the average player
woeful solstice
oh i was saying do they sell them
feels like twitch/awc isnt enough income lol
depending on how big you are i guess
last orbit
Also i feel like banning a big time streamer who does alot of promoting for wow on twitch, makes guides, and helps the fan base would be bad pr
fresh valve
like Asmongold will probably have viewers who are good at the game that are willing to play with him
clever igloo
warrior looks harder than i thought
fresh valve
the games hard bröther
last orbit
warrior looks harder than i thought
its not once you are used to it, just learning it is the only big climb. but other than that there is no big fancy things
just go in and hit hard
and just by damage you can get 1800
fresh valve
idk how those ppl got caught in sl tho, did they not use vpn's?
clever igloo
i hope so, thanks btw
idle falcon
YOOOOOOO
fury > arms
swapped to fury and since then no games lost
10 game winstreak
fresh valve
swapped to fury and since then no games lost
modern pilot
random fractal
real
modern pilot
alright from now on, 6-0 games only
last orbit
The feeling when you get both the healer and the kill target stuck in spear with sweeping strikes up
modern pilot
damn went 0-6 😦
thick reef
Guys, hello!
Help me with a question.
I have a PvE 421 Tierset item. For the arena, is it worth keeping my PvE Item 421 or changing to my Rival I 405 item?
Thanks 🙂
modern pilot
lmaooo hes from dk discord 😂
im sorry @sage raptor , for I have fallen
but just wait a second
sage raptor
You think you've fallen? I'm the one here who plays prot over the dps specs lol
sage raptor
I've been here for a while
modern pilot
a double agent huh
sage raptor
Quadruple agent
scarlet flame
gz man 🙂
lyric violet
thank you im like smiling ear to ear rn
stable siren
god damn gratz
scarlet flame
its from this months trader
lean burrow
oh the vagabond
woeful solstice
fucking hell pvp is unplayable if you arent ret right now
i havent seen the game this busted in a while
sharp meteor
ya kind of horrific
sharp meteor
i was kind of optimistic about season
then ret comes along and
euthanizes all hope
fresh valve
ya shits making me not wanna bother with pvp next season
unless we get another unchained situation
scarlet flame
i enjoyed the fuck outta this season until ret paladins
fresh valve
Why would you want an unchained season
glad is def fun to get when your main competition is boosters and r1 alts
0.51% of active players got that mount
mild thunder
glad is def fun to get when your main competition is boosters and r1 alts
so you want the opposite extreme? glad being full of terminal 1800 players?
fresh valve
yea that means pvp was gatekept the least that season
mild thunder
unchained was an equally fucked season, there's a middleground between glad being a r1 only and a handout
so if anyone gets glad, it's a good season?
fresh valve
so .51% of the playerbase means that anyone couldve gotten glad that season?
active playerbase btw
mild thunder
anyone that put in a minorly sufficient amount of time and was decent at the game, yea
idk why you're mentioning a % of the entire playerbase instead of a % of 3s players
the overwhelming majority of wow players dont give the slightest fuck about pvp, in case you hadn't noticed
a fair chunk of pvpers dont even give a fuck about 3s
fresh valve
so in your ideal world pvp is the nichest shit in the game
mild thunder
what? im not talking about ideal, im talking about how it is
fresh valve
and you want it to stay that way?
mild thunder
pvp being a small, niche part of the game isnt going to change
fresh valve
It definitely will if people keep complaining about .51% of players getting glad
mild thunder
no, it wont
fresh valve
or blizz might realize that nobody wants to fuckin pvp and reduce the gatekeeping
mild thunder
unchained was an easy glad season, and it was still a very low % of the playerbase that pvp'd
mild thunder
- rewards and achievements should be meaningful
- you claimed that glad being easily obtainable would make pvp more popular
are you losing track of your own points?
fresh valve
how is it not meaningful? you're literally still in the top 1%
mild thunder
only elitists give a shit about that
cool, most of the people that still pvp with commitment are elitists
fresh valve
less than the top 1%
mild thunder
WHO CARES ABOUT 1% OF THE PLAYERBASE
fresh valve
people who play the game?
mild thunder
no
fresh valve
lmfao
mild thunder
why are you talking about 1% of the ENTIRE PLAYERBASE
wheat storm
PvP a mini game fr
fresh valve
and the pvp community really thinks that unchained was a bad thing
mild thunder
that's like saying some dumb shit about poor people in western countries are in the top 1% of wealth worldwide, therefore they shouldnt complain about being poor
are you that dumb
fresh valve
you speak for the entire pvp community?
fresh valve
that's like saying some dumb shit about poor people in western countries are in ...
so billionaires are the ones complaining about more people getting money
mild thunder
no i do not officially speak for the pvp community, but im fairly confident that my opinion would be shared by most long-term/committed 3s players
fresh valve
that comparison you made admits youre an elitist
mild thunder
yes? and? most of the people that play 3s to a relatively committed extent are probably an elitist by your definition
if wanting rewards for elite players to remain for elite players makes me an elitist, then yes i am 
but i guess the game would be a whole lot better if everyone got their participation gladiator mount and mythic raiding was dumbed down to LFR level and +20s were scaled down to +5s
mild thunder
why is that?
copper hare
way more fuckin people get CE than glad
lol
fresh valve
even if its 20 man teams the ratio still speaks for itself
mild thunder
why do more people get CE than glad?
mild thunder
that's what im talking about - participation
more people get CE
because more people raid
fresh valve
yea and when raiding is in its lowest participation its been in years it still massively shits on pvp
mild thunder
pvp participation is not going to grow to any significant extent by making gladiator more accessible, because pvp does not have any draw - it is relegated to being a niche minigame in an already dying mmo genre
that's the reality
wow pvp is already dying, and it will continue dying. even if blizzard cared to revive it, they would struggle to
fresh valve
how tf is it not
copper hare
yea and when raiding is in its lowest participation its been in years it still m...
Why are you even making shit up
mild thunder
people that are interested in pvping play pvp games, not mmos - there is no playerbase out there for wow pvp to draw from
fresh valve
Im not lying u donkey
scarlet flame
the whole thing about glad being a sick ass title is that not a lot of people get it
if anyone who played could get it it loses its worth
fresh valve
bellular literally showed a fuckin graph that proves it
scarlet flame
this guys new to discord and talking like a retard, probably a troll
mild thunder
Calling other people donkey when you state one dumb thing every minute
gigachad
fresh valve
what was dumb lmfao
scarlet flame
way more fuckin people get CE than glad
this was pretty dumb
fresh valve
yea I shouldve elaborated more on that one
scarlet flame
cutting edge isn't gate kept by a % of players
copper hare
less than the top 1%
That aswell
scarlet flame
anyone who kills mythic end boss gets its
glad is literally the top .1% of players
if you are .2 you dont get it
copper hare
how is it not meaningful? you're literally still in the top 1%
That aswell
scarlet flame
its not the same type of title
copper hare
fried
fresh valve
That aswell
maybe its dumb to an elitist
mild thunder
what was dumb lmfao
literally any time you compared the entire playerbase to % of people getting glad
scarlet flame
how is anythign said elitist
fresh valve
I cant tell if yall are blackpilled or masturbating to your egos
copper hare
Some people just shouldn't have Internet access
scarlet flame
explain how its elitist
copper hare
Imo
fresh valve
explain how its elitist
complaining about being in the top .51%
scarlet flame
what
scarlet flame
no one is mad they aren't in the top .6%
scarlet flame
because you are making fictional statements
fresh valve
statistics are fictional?
mild thunder
"Im mad im not in the top .06% 😠
that's... literally you
scarlet flame
yeah the stats you are making up are fictional
mild thunder
statistics are fictional?
you're skewing statistics because you don't know how to read or apply them
copper hare
mathematamatics
Be honest, did you drop out at school when you were 11?
mild thunder
or contextualise them in general
fresh valve
yeah the stats you are making up are fictional
look it up and then come say that
scarlet flame
no
unchained had huge inflation and no one liked it
being glad in that seasons a meme
fresh valve
you're skewing statistics because you don't know how to read or apply them
how am I skewing statistics?!??!
mild thunder
how am I skewing statistics?!??!
by continually comparing the %entire playerbase to the %glads, even when it's pointed out how pointless that is
scarlet flame
this dudes the type of guy to play with aimbot because it makes him feel better huh
mild thunder
but im fairly convinced at this rate that you suffer from some moderate-to-extreme degree of brain damage, so i'll forgive you
copper hare
way more fuckin people get CE than glad
That was my favorite, true Einstein theory
scarlet flame
imagine how salty the pve community would be if CE was handed out to the first 150 guilds at the end of the raid tier
fresh valve
how is it pointless? Yall only feel good when you're the best out of a small sample size
cuz yer egoists
scarlet flame
what does that even fucking mean LOL
mild thunder
no, we're honest that wow pvp is a small playerbase regardless
and we dont want it fucked for the players that remain
scarlet flame
because its hard
lean burrow
it's not small, it's average
scarlet flame
getting to 2k in pvp is harder than completing heroic raids
fresh valve
hard because nobody wants to play and your only competition is boosters and streamers
scarlet flame
its not tho
thick reef
getting to 2k in pvp is harder than completing heroic raids
Mythics, but yes
scarlet flame
Mythics, but yes
mythics are more to 2400+
copper hare
because its hard
Maybe in your world everything that is hard is also small
mild thunder
why tf do you think its so small
a few main reasons
pvp players play pvp games, not mmos
wow has a ridiculous amount of things to track to be good or successful
mmos are a dying genre
copper hare
scarlet flame
hey i have an okay penis
mild thunder
Maybe in your world everything that is hard is also small
gottem
fresh valve
a few main reasons
pvp players play pvp games, not mmos
wow has a ridiculous am...
"my game is shit therefore it shall stay shit"
scarlet flame
wow pvp has never been a huge community
lmao
actually i can't think of a single mmo where pvp outshines the pve counterpart
fresh valve
the community has divided by 2 each xpac
mild thunder
"my game is shit therefore it shall stay shit"
not only are you incapable of understanding stats, you also have the reading comprehension of a dyslexic toddler
fresh valve
insult cause you're too retarded to refute anything I say
scarlet flame
are you just mad because gala said unchained was a bad season because it was easier to get glad
im confused why you're having an attack
mild thunder
insult cause you're too retarded to refute anything I say
i've refuted everything you've said 🤓
fresh valve
no you havent lol
mild thunder
to clarify - literally strawmanning what i said to you in air quotes is not a real argument
that's literally, literally a strawman
copper hare
I know what's going on. First of April, he's just fuckin with us
scarlet flame
probably
mild thunder
I know what's going on. First of April, he's just fuckin with us
i wanna believe that, but this is somehow not the most retarded wow player ive seen
wowhead commenters are infinitely worse
fresh valve
all youve said was its pointless to compare the pvp community to the entire playerbase
which idk how that makes your case any better
it just shows the most of the playerbase thinks pvp is shit
copper hare
i wanna believe that, but this is somehow not the most retarded wow player ive s...
You haven't seen this guy yet
scarlet flame
who gives a shit what people think about pvp when they dont pvp
fresh valve
because the people who stuck around might be biased
scarlet flame
you mean the people who stuck around to pvp like pvp
and the people who didn't dont
mild thunder
you mean the people who stuck around to pvp like pvp
🤯
fresh valve
yea the small amount who stuck around
mild thunder
you mean the people who stuck around to pvp like pvp
🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
scarlet flame
okay so why the fuck should i care about the people who dont like pvps opinion
mild thunder
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-gearing-is-too-easy/1558083
im concerned to read this, im gonna get a headache
mild thunder
TRU
fresh valve
scarlet flame
how is it cope
mild thunder
blizz legit fumbled this season with 10.0.7
scarlet flame
SS was so popular it killed the 3s bracket by taking people out of it
scarlet flame
lmfao
copper hare
I hope awc finals will just be as shit as I imagine
fresh valve
you think we have the same amount pvpers as we did in SL
mild thunder
more iirc
scarlet flame
i dont know maybe
fresh valve
lol
mild thunder
soloQ brought a fair few players back/into pvp, but that doesnt funnel into 3s
cant remember real numbers
scarlet flame
i do know people hated SL
i hated SL and it made me quit
i also hated BFA and that made me quit too
DF is fun (not ret) and it brought me back
mild thunder
i care significantly less about sales than player retention
and DF has pretty good player retention
scarlet flame
BFA and DF both sold 3.4m SL didn't way outsell it with 3.7m
mild thunder
BFA and DF both sold 3.4m SL didn't way outsell it with 3.7m
"way less sales"
SL was pretty overhyped tho, idk why
scarlet flame
BFA was dogshit thats why
mild thunder
it released at a good time ig, midway through classic
DF release felt a bit awkward with wotlk classic being not too much earlier
SL also happened around lockdowns
when games were at an all-time popularity
scarlet flame
idk how credible this is, just the first site i found
whatever the fuck headphones addict is
copper hare
and dragonflight has less sales than both of those xpacs
Still no source
Still making things up
fresh valve
they already said the numbers
copper hare
King of apes
fresh valve
3.4m
scarlet flame
post the site
fresh valve
scarlet flame
no i already said those numbers post player retentions
scarlet flame
BFA and DF both sold 3.4m SL didn't way outsell it with 3.7m
.
mild thunder
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-dragonflight-sold-less-than-shadowlands-bu...
is a 0.3M gap "way less"?
fresh valve
yup
lean burrow
SL was pretty overhyped tho, idk why
the premise "going to the afterlife" sounded way cooler on paper
fresh valve
when you think about it net loss wise
copper hare
way more fuckin people get CE than glad
...
scarlet flame
from gamespot
copper hare
I swear "way"
copper hare
Is his fav word
scarlet flame
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-dragonflight-sold-less-than-shadowlands-but-there-is-a-silver-lining/1100-6511270/ here is the website if you want to read it, idk how credible it is tho 🤷
fresh valve
ya and how many of those 3.4m players are playing now
mild thunder
the premise "going to the afterlife" sounded way cooler on paper
until we realised "the afterlife" was immensely boring and cliche and that the entire xpac was a budget avengers/thanos ripoff with some of the worst systems in the game's history