wait for nerfs
#pvp
little lava
torpid roost
yeah I'm not queueing for a week or two
sharp meteor
It'll probably end in a month and a half or two-ish.
torpid roost
or, again, I'm rolling ret
little lava
i havent touched pvp yet
serene cobalt
cause on my appearance tab says the elite set is no longer obtainable
torpid roost
I queued a few randoms to see how bad it is
ret fucking killed me through DBTS and def stance with an un-cced healer
logged straight the fuck off
random fractal
qued some ss on my fresh hunter and it was 2 rets running at me fisting me
torpid roost
sounds hot
random fractal
never been fucked harder
little lava
ret fucking killed me through DBTS and def stance with an un-cced healer
die by the swordnig at 10% hp doesnt count
torpid roost
popped it when wings went up
mild thunder
die by the swordnig at 10% hp doesnt count
canceled
torpid roost
~55%
torpid roost
that child seems obese. Concern
stable siren
yeah ret berry stronk many claps
torpid roost
yeah they clamped my chimps
mild thunder
that child seems obese. Concern
idk obese seems like the least of their concerns 😵💫
torpid roost
yeah but you can do something about that, you can't do much about chromosomal anomalies
mild thunder
dude dont lie, you're not that fucking hot
torpid roost
He does look cozily warm
little lava
this one is me
torpid roost
oh god I'm physically uncomfortable now
little lava
torpid roost
less uncomfortable, he just looks like he wants to kill me and loot my corpse
best of luck, human gollum
mild thunder
he is making a shit
valid
mild thunder
man is going into the wank bank for these
mild thunder
finally ret tuning!
you had me going for a second
torpid roost
ah nvm, it's not april
April
queues up 'Wake me up when September ends'
mild thunder
https://gyazo.com/e21e8054537f0f141adafd0f766c254d
get good
torpid roost
they're all way above 1500 if they have a pulse now
lean burrow
how can y'all play arenas when there's new zone, trial of style, and comp stomp rn
and heritage mog
rotund trellis
because they are all on 2.5k <:keks:936231610850897992>
lol exactly 
mild thunder
and heritage mog
heritage mog is pog
mild thunder
that's a low bar
rotund trellis
DOUBLE PROT PALA FUCK ME
spice hornet
mild thunder
dude ret needs buffs tbh
how am i supposed to win when JV only does 200k dmg? bro double it
rotund trellis
this lobby is a joke, this game became a joke. we're living a meme lol
still managed to go 3-3
every round they targeted me obviously
rotund trellis
I mean he makes the game shit, he deserves it
torpid roost
ret ret meleewings holy winning AWC
rotund trellis
nice photoshop
rotund trellis
on normal 3v3ladder is all rets
ruby temple
The rets have made it through another night of hot fixes. Rejoice as there is much to learn in suffering. Ive been taking this time to appreciate not having to get one shot in the opener by an ele shaman rolling the lottery the past 3 days
rotund trellis
there's not gonna be hotfixes btw. I think it'll take a couple of weeks.
rotund trellis
"looks perfectly normal to me" - blizz probably
ruby temple
When you open with bleed build are you doing cs > rend > thunder roar > avatar (which goes into the bs by talent) or would it be better to do cs > avatar/bs > tr > rend?
lean burrow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081257275156607006/1088665749784121385...
can't decide if sArena or GladiusEx is better
sArena looks better, but gladius got more options
mild thunder
When you open with bleed build are you doing cs > rend > thunder roar > avatar (...
dont rend during cs
waste of a gcd
if you're running bs proc on avatar, ms before the ava to optimise the amount of ms hits in a short window
ruby temple
Ok cool. Should I sharpen blade with that Ms then or use it before the avatar/bs (assuming I'm running unhinged)
With spear I usually sharpen the unhinged Ms but I think that may be wrong :/
mild thunder
dont sharpen formulaically
sharpen when kill-target is low and healer is coming out of/is out of cc
sharp meteor
sharpen is kind of the "the target is getting healed a lot here" button
if i sharpen a lock at full hp as he pacts then it'll do nothing
relative to if i sharpen a 60% health target as his healer is leaving cc as gala says
ruby temple
Interesting. I was following the pikaboo opener he did in a video awhile back but I had started shifting it's usage and its "felt" better but didn't know that was the correct way to do it..so ty for clarifying that for me guys
sharp meteor
just need to use it and get a feel for it
remember that ms falls off when sharpen expires
copper hare
sharp meteor
so gotta ms after sharp ends
copper hare
good game
sharp meteor
https://gyazo.com/55a6e6bfccd8797325b3958d9db73615
ya idk how people are queuing right now
ruby temple
Isn't justicars vengeance also something they just get for a auto attack proc? Not even something you have to build for?
mild thunder
JV is their main spender
JV or TV choice node
JV heals a bit and has a higher top-end burst potential
TV has 20yd range and is better consistent dmg
copper hare
guys my little resto shaman is slowly climbing
idk how I win a lobby like that lol https://gyazo.com/05eeb7102cad112b7ed3482ebe353a6b
lontar 2.0 soon 
mild thunder
hows rsham feel?
copper hare
Like honestly, when there is like only 1-2 rets in the lobby it feels pretty damn good
rotund trellis
3v3s i tanked 100 points. Every game with 2x rets. other games easy wins
mild thunder
Like honestly, when there is like only 1-2 rets in the lobby it feels pretty dam...
did earthen get buffed? feels super strong now
copper hare
ret obv counters resto so hard, you die in a single hoj with wall everytime, if ret gets cutted rsham is gonna be s tier healer I think
no, but everything else pretty much
mild thunder
ret nerfs probably coming tonight with the maintenance
rotund trellis
one can hope
indigo barn
Gonna throw in rets being nerfed Monday so the people who can only play on weekends can get they're free 2100
Also should I run disarm against ret now?
sharp meteor
Yeah, probably.
woeful solstice
ret nerfs probably coming tonight with the maintenance
pls lord
i want to que 3s
mild thunder
Also should I run disarm against ret now?
definitely
indigo barn
Bother running duel as well for maximum annoyance?
mild thunder
i mean
indigo barn
Just deny the wings?
mild thunder
a ret really shouldnt have any problem turning around and oneshotting you lol
indigo barn
True
mild thunder
disarm/banner the best combo
imo
ret has a ton of cc, esp if they run rep
which they probably should be a lot of the time
indigo barn
Just duel them and leap easy
mild thunder
running from wings isnt really viable
lucid walrus
being able to just threaten rep like that is crazy
mild thunder
its a 1 min cd taht lasts 20 sec
mild thunder
being able to just threaten rep like that is crazy
if they fuck up and get kicked tho, it should be game over
indigo barn
Also 12 second horsie
lucid walrus
if they fuck up and get kicked tho, it should be game over
reasonable
mild thunder
but yea ive been messing around with ret/feral/hpri, and you can get an easy hoj>rep>fear chain every 30sec
lucid walrus
it’s just interesting to me that it can viably do that after ret was relegated to wog/sanc/1-tap bot for a while
mild thunder
which is insanely strong
lucid walrus
good change
lucid walrus
but yea ive been messing around with ret/feral/hpri, and you can get an easy hoj...
wew
indigo barn
Watching ret/demo before the nerf to Tyran was scary
@mild thunder do most SS rounds end before wings does? Have yet to que this week
mild thunder
idk i dont play shuffle
copper hare
Duel is nuts vs ret
Intervene at this point is just a suicide button without parry lol
mild thunder
Duel is nuts vs ret
idk, a good ret will just kill you on duel
it's not like they struggle to swap
lean burrow
It's like banner at 1500
what's wrong with banner on 1500?
indigo barn
what's wrong with banner on 1500?
I mean how good it is. Banners time out for me at 2300mmr 80% of the time
lean burrow
btw, are the r1 cutoffs from two days ago correct?
they were lower than expected
season 2 duelist illusion
indigo barn
season 2 duelist illusion
quick carbon
I can’t wait for my transgender child to be a warrior main 🙏
indigo barn
Always has been
sage raptor
copper hare
idk, a good ret will just kill you on duel
I don't think a single dps realised when I dueled them from 2k to 3k mmr over the last years
simple rock
i am just a natural at ret
mild thunder
I don't think a single dps realised when I dueled them from 2k to 3k mmr over th...
RETardation
mild thunder
I can’t wait for my transgender child to be a warrior main 🙏
omg bro, are you WOKE?? are you TRANSING the kids!!??? smh biden pfp, you must also be an lgbtqrstuv supporter
quick carbon
trans lives matter bro
mild thunder
bro, what are you on about? trans people arent real
they were made up by fidel castro and the CIA to indoctrinate young white men into hating themselves
i read it on facebook
copper hare
I can’t wait for my transgender child to be a warrior main 🙏
always remember
there are no chicks with dicks
only men with tits
mild thunder
there are no chicks with dicks
my internet history says otherwise
wheat jay
my internet history says otherwise
Are you perhaps a fan of japanese animation
mild thunder
Are you perhaps a fan of japanese animation <:keks:936231610850897992>
we were talking about transwomen, not kids 💀
wheat jay
dark sparrow
season 2 duelist illusion
damn, thats actually not a bad illusion for once
@mild thunder your so fried today man, I just went through the messages from earlier
Im gonna go wash my eyes with some salt, brb
quick carbon
Are you perhaps a fan of japanese animation <:keks:936231610850897992>
I love Japanese cartoons
mild thunder
<@589020053748449300> your so fried today man, I just went through the messages ...
i didnt even say anything wild, people are just wack
copper hare
damn, thats actually not a bad illusion for once
current one is nice aswell
dark sparrow
current one is not bad but it doesn't make me go "woah, look at that" vibes
dark sparrow
i didnt even say anything wild, people are just wack
true and real
proud canyon
hey! i was watching Thomasman (highest rating pvp arms) and i was wondering: since he do not build shattering trow in any setup, is it worth it to build it agains rets?
muted surge
In the 3sec cast you are dead :<
copper hare
hey! i was watching Thomasman (highest rating pvp arms) and i was wondering: sin...
most of the time it's a wasted talent point, it's probably even more useful to get wrecking throw vs rets
shattering is like useful vs.. bad mages maybe, maybe holy pala, that's about it
mild thunder
hey! i was watching Thomasman (highest rating pvp arms) and i was wondering: sin...
shatter bad
wrecking throw the SoV
swap on bubble
lean burrow
just nerfing damage and leaving them tanky jungernauts would be fine
plate classes should be giga tanky
mages and rogues should be terrified of plate wearers
mild thunder
just nerfing damage and leaving them tanky jungernauts would be fine
i said this about arms the other day and people flipped their shit
oh no - a plate class fulfilling a plate-like role
the horror
proud canyon
i dont mind ret damage since i play with a ret
copper hare
shadowlands rmp was pretty disgusting, rmp should have never been able to dampen any other comp
fickle forge
mages and rogues should be terrified of plate wearers
RMP enthusiasts are the ultimate victim mindsets
copper hare
I can't believe rets are able to blast for 20k hps now, what are they even thinking
90k flash heals lol
fickle forge
If the game doesn't hand them god tier for free, it's a piss class/comp, if it does, everyone else is only losing cause they choke
Whaazz sitting #1 ladder worldwide with 97% win rate and claiming it's cause people blunt mentally when they see him and his team
Name me a more arrogant statement ever
copper hare
Let's be honest though, Meeh lifted this team to an even higher level again
that guy is a fucking robot
fickle forge
The only way you can consistently beat the entire top end worldwide 97% of the time, is if you're given some big advantage
Like an unbeatable comp
copper hare
there are definitely players on the same skill level, but yeah the last 4 years were pretty sad with rmp balancing
quick carbon
oh no - a plate class fulfilling a plate-like role
Plate only matters vs physical dam which most classes don’t do
fickle forge
Plate only matters vs physical dam which most classes don’t do
A lot do though
quick carbon
Armor matters vs war hunter ww enh
Wot other specs
outlaw rogue but no1 plays that
quick carbon
doesn’t sub have expose armor
quick carbon
I said hunter and warrior
fickle forge
Arms
fickle forge
Enh
quick carbon
doesn’t sub have expose armor they literally go through armor anyway
fickle forge
Even demo lock has done largely phys dmg this expansion
quick carbon
demo is magic rn
fickle forge
doesn’t sub have expose armor they literally go through armor anyway
Partially yes
But it still matters
fickle forge
Which is based off how much you'd deal with phys dmg
quick carbon
armor barely matters into sub rogue it’s not going to mitigate much of anything
fickle forge
Surely lol
quick carbon
cuz ur gonna get 100-0d anyway lmao
undone pumice
quick carbon
armor does help vs a few classes but most classes don’t care ab ur armor
fickle forge
Largely meta dependant
tepid stag
hi kargish
fickle forge
Mb not right now, but Shadowlands was phys dmg meta
fickle forge
hi kargish
Hey Frost
quick carbon
Mb not right now, but Shadowlands was phys dmg meta
Only 2 comps rlly did physical damage tho
jungle and ret war
every other comp was magic
other than the occasional turbo
mild thunder
Plate only matters vs physical dam which most classes don’t do
not talking about whether it is important to gameplay, but that it should be
quick carbon
early sl was rogue mage and ret war and jungle
fickle forge
What
We already forgot about bugwalkers and BM running rampant?
Arms having 30% rep?
quick carbon
armor should only matter into physical damage
quick carbon
We already forgot about bugwalkers and BM running rampant?
Sl s1 was ret war rmp jungle as I said
mild thunder
armor should only matter into physical damage
it doesnt HAVE to be the armor that makes them tanky
but the idea that a plate class should be the squishiest in pvp is stupid
fickle forge
Sl s1 was ret war rmp jungle as I said
That was S2 mostly
There were so many WWs until they got bugfixed
quick carbon
Jungle got more popular at the end of s1 but it was good throughout
mild thunder
both - check pins for builds
quick carbon
ww was more of a s2 thing no?
mild thunder
bec idk what you've done to make only one pickable
quick carbon
it doesnt HAVE to be the armor that makes them tanky
Disagree
teal hedge
I am level 66
mild thunder
then who cares?
teal hedge
But which ones should I get?
teal hedge
Damn ait
quick carbon
because warrior into melee is very durable/into casters it’s toilet paper and for dk it’s the opposite
fickle forge
ww was more of a s2 thing no?
Def S1
We had a guy in here that ran to 3k and sit for R1 with WW+arms, only thing they did was train healers
quick carbon
Def S1
I swear bonedust ww was a s2 thing maybe it was the later half of s1 cuz early s1 was just ret war rmp everywhere
fickle forge
And get an ilvl gap from mythic raiding
fickle forge
No, Rovicus was his name
quick carbon
oh
Trill did the same thing with his mythic gear
farmed the entire ladder cuz he gapped people in Ilvl
quick carbon
anyway, armor shouldn’t be the deciding factor on if a class is tanky or not
the kit of the class determines it as it should
fickle forge
Kit is normally built around armor class
Plates are usually designed less mobile but more durable
Leather vice versa
quick carbon
I can find plenty of scenarios where casters were extremely durable
even more than now
mild thunder
I swear bonedust ww was a s2 thing maybe it was the later half of s1 cuz early s...
was defs a s1 thing too
but s1 was also kyrian ww to start
quick carbon
ya that’s what I remember
I remember kyrian ww
I honestly wouldn’t touch
like the only spec I’d change defensively
is ret cuz broken
and sub rogue cuz why do they have 2 vanishes lmao
enhance could use something tho it just gets folded
(Not biased cuz turbo I swear)
mild thunder
nuke everything but arms 
quick carbon
cleaves being good isn’t a problem
mild thunder
arms/arms/x should be the only viable melee cleave
fickle forge
fickle forge
arms/arms/x should be the only viable melee cleave <:xeos:945501697847992341>
Arms + Double healer
quick carbon
Unhealable damage rotate defensively until u win
fickle forge
To show you only need your babes and yourself
quick carbon
I love kitty it’s what I played to 24 my first time
But to act like kitty and any other cleave are different
is incorrect imo
quick carbon
tbh I think ppl would rather fight cleaves than fight double caster
double caster 10 min games so lame
Cleaves play to win boys
have any of u agreed with me that the mobility arms race
Has gone too far
fickle forge
Mobility and micro CC Imo
mild thunder
have any of u agreed with me that the mobility arms race
yes
but tbf
they cant just nerf arms mobility
without nerfing other classes too
quick carbon
Yes they can
quick carbon
ww has always been the super mobile melee
mild thunder
its gotten more than arms has this xpac
quick carbon
warrior mobility rivals ww mobility and that’s absurd
double time 30s leap intervene is retarded
quick carbon
Most melee mobility should be toned down yes
mild thunder
double port
tigers lust
and 3x rolls
and serpent kick
its a problem
its not an arms problem
dark sparrow
I'd only be down to nerf our mobility when they nerf mage mobility etc
mild thunder
its a talent tree problem - all sense of opportunity cost has been thrown out the window
quick carbon
that’s even better
mild thunder
12sec charge and charge stun should be a choice node
bolt/good shockwave choice node
30s leap removed
quick carbon
12 sec charge is arguably even better than double time lmao
but ur changes would b fine
mild thunder
its probably better and more consistent, but its also less egregious
you cant charge > get knocked back > charge > hunter disengages > leap with 12 sec charge
quick carbon
rn unless ur a frost mage ur not kiting a warrior and that’s ridiculous
or bm hunter
quick carbon
also double 40 yard grip is also retarded
Melee want casters to have to cast but then don’t want to give up mobility
mild thunder
its a shame shockwave will just never be good again
quick carbon
truly
mild thunder
because of how OP it would be in m+
id rather it not be in the game than be like it is now
mild thunder
it depends
honestly they have to redo a lot of the trees in order to properly fix these problems
quick carbon
yeah
mild thunder
not just mobility creep either, cc creep, modifier creep, other stuff im too dumb to remember...
quick carbon
like what r u supposed to do as an ele shaman to get away from a warrior
u actually just don’t and u just die
mild thunder
oneshot them 🤓
quick carbon
would be full dr half dr immune
what qualifies as a micro cc tho
like dk pet stun? shadow fury?
Cool?
Coil*
mild thunder
well tbf next season almost everything is micro cc anyway
mild thunder
but yea, coil, dk petstun, shadowfury maybe
shadowfury doesnt count imo
because its casted
quick carbon
If coil would break on damage it would be fine imo
quick carbon
horrify should just be considered a stun
And dr with stuns
Then they’re fine
like dying cuz u get kidney full off a coil
Is lame
mild thunder
dk petstun
coil
sp volley
frostmage root frozen orb root thing
i cant really think of anything else off the top of my head
mild thunder
warrior charge doesnt work without a root
quick carbon
ya it does
mild thunder
it literally doesnt connect you
quick carbon
Just charge piercing howl
mild thunder
if they took away charge root, id quit ngl
you try playing with oce ping with no charge root
byeybye pvp
quick carbon
I’d just pre charge
mild thunder
pre-doing anything is cringe with >100ms every game
"oh, i pressed banner before this stun and it didnt go through? and im dead now? awesome"
quick carbon
I can’t wait to see next expansion where they turn every melee into tanks and give them 1 gap closer
mild thunder
you're kidding yourself if you think any of this stuff will be addressed in any real way
quick carbon
Then give casters infinity mobility but get 1 shot upon connection
quick carbon
ya Ik
mild thunder
as much as it sucks, all of these are a result of pve becoming infinitely more fun and interesting
quick carbon
I hope u all know when ret gets nerfed into oblivion
arms warrior is up next with bm hunter
kekw
lock too
mild thunder
arms probs not getting nerfed any time soon
they've been avoiding touching us like the plague
quick carbon
I can definitely see arms getting damage lowered
mild thunder
besides the fatal mark "nerf"
we havent caught a single change yet in 10.0.7, 10.1 or for weeks on live
they just dont care about us
quick carbon
they could nerf Ms by 10% in pvp and warrior still insane
ret overshadowing how insane warrior is now
mild thunder
rets getting nerfed tn anyway
quick carbon
cap
mild thunder
1hr maintenance? 100% ret, lock nerfs
mild thunder
and they wont until after maintenance
quick carbon
god I hope ur right
mild thunder
if not im just gonna get glad on ret this week
not sorry in the slightest - it's not free if everyone you verse is ret too, right?
mild thunder
easier to get glad on ret than sit in LFG trying to find one good ret in a thousand
thick reef
True
thick reef
not sorry in the slightest - it's not free if everyone you verse is ret too, rig...
I agree with this as well
mild thunder
as much as i hate to admit it, it is also DISGUSTINGLY fun
mild thunder
i originally just played to 1800 since i was gonna do that for mog anyway, but ended up getting 1900 in 3s in a few hours of day 1 and realised my kitty cleave was gonna get dumpstered if we even tried to queue
so we just queued ret/feral
quick carbon
if u lose as ret rn ur the worst player to ever walk the face of the earth
quick carbon
every ret I beat got whispered and they absolutely deserved it
mild thunder
fair
quick carbon
HOW DO U LOSE
thick reef
Is everyone actually Ret rn wtf
quick carbon
yes
mild thunder
almost
thick reef
LMAO
quick carbon
I qued for 2 hours only got 4 non ret games
thick reef
I qued for 2 hours only got 4 non ret games
God dam
quick carbon
I got more games vs double ret than non ret LOL
quick carbon
I went 40-0 from 1 global lmao
quick carbon
170k jv 85k storm
teal hedge
Finally hit non-pala top dps
quick carbon
same global
quick carbon
I hope ret is deleted
Like everyone who played with a ret
Should get their cr rolled back
lmao
teal hedge
Heard someone say that ret was getting nerfed next week?
thick reef
I was about to lmao
quick carbon
never saw it
mild thunder
nothing confirmed yet
thick reef
I feel bad now
teal hedge
Let's hope
quick carbon
no like honestly if u lose as ret and its to me
mild thunder
170k jv 85k storm
mate ive hit
quick carbon
I’m whispering u
mild thunder
140k non-crit JV
thick reef
LMAO
teal hedge
No idea how a single instant can out-damage my fully buffed mortal strike
mild thunder
im not even fucking kidding
teal hedge
What's a JV?
quick carbon
look at this loser boys
thick reef
Flag, tbag and whisper em
mild thunder
justicars vengeance
thick reef
look at this loser boys
KEKW BRO IS A BETA FOR LOSING AS RET
quick carbon
every ret is just dogshit
Rets that play out the game when their partner dies
R doing it cuz
They haven’t noticed that their partner died
teal hedge
But they also said that execute was about to be hit?
thick reef
Lmao yea still mashing their stuff
quick carbon
But they also said that execute was about to be hit?
What r u talking ab
teal hedge
Some villain in a bg
mild thunder
But they also said that execute was about to be hit?
who's lying to you?
bro
bg players
quick carbon
ya thats not happening bro
quick carbon
No rets r
teal hedge
Oh btw, where can I find plenty of draconium=?
mild thunder
not in this channel
teal hedge
Very well
mild thunder
thick reef
quick carbon
I almost died today irl
I did 2s and qued into prevoker and my mw said yes let’s get some dracthussy
I couldn’t handle it
mild thunder
dw im going to go to sleep tonight and say a prayer to POTUS J.R. Biden, peace be upon him, that ret will be nerfed tonight
mild thunder
only the AI arrest photo tho
quick carbon
trump would of nerfed ret on god
thick reef
KEKW
quick carbon
LOL
thick reef
Yea
quick carbon
that’s what happens when u go on ret forums and say rets op
quick carbon
💀💀
mild thunder
Dark Brandon wouldn't get arrested like that
grand scaffold
is sub rogue strong after the nerfs?
quick carbon
yes
quick carbon
no
grand scaffold
-_-
mild thunder
sub rogue is always the same
oneshot build gets nerfed
wait 1 week
sub discovers new oneshot build
wait months for nerf
sub discovers better oneshot build
repeat for 20 years
quick carbon
u think joe Biden survives next election?
grand scaffold
u think joe Biden survives next election?
no
quick carbon
I think he might just have an aneurysm
grand scaffold
the guy isnt mentally sound
grand scaffold
dude
mild thunder
id love to see it, but i think the ukraine stuff is dragging on too long and people are feeling the in-pocket effects
grand scaffold
the guy shakes peoples hands that arent there
grand scaffold
yeah
teal hedge
You people could use a Margareta Andersson, former prime minister of Sweden fr fr
mild thunder
the guy shakes peoples hands that arent there
bayzed
grand scaffold
but no way he staying president ngl
quick carbon
America needs me to run it
if trump runs against him joe Biden is definitely winning again
teal hedge
I think the states needs to balkanize
mild thunder
idk, repubs are too split either way
either biden wins, or dems run someone else and win
quick carbon
I hope the Republican Party reinvents itself to be appealing to the average person again
mild thunder
never let repub faithfuls forget that they swore if repubs lost that there would be no rioting
queue jan 6
quick carbon
TRUE LMAO
teal hedge
I mean, what the hell has happened
quick carbon
the economy had nothing to do with trump it was already recovering under Obama trump just continued it
mild thunder
id rather a senile old man than a legit crook with multiple allegations of corruption against him 🤡
grand scaffold
not really
grand scaffold
the economy had nothing to do with trump it was already recovering under Obama t...
what
mild thunder
the economy had nothing to do with trump it was already recovering under Obama t...
based take
teal hedge
id rather a senile old man than a legit crook with multiple allegations of corru...
So zased
quick carbon
trump almost also dragged us into war too he’s unhinged
mild thunder
trump also failed to withdraw from afghanistan
grand scaffold
trump almost also dragged us into war too he’s unhinged
what
mild thunder
meanwhile
grand scaffold
how
quick carbon
I forgot almost
grand scaffold
bruh
quick carbon
u remember that Iran shit?
muted surge
taliban took over
that was the point
grand scaffold
u remember that Iran shit?
dont remember a war
quick carbon
Oh yes let’s stay there forever and waste 20 trillion more dollars
teal hedge
And the better decision was to keep throwing young men into a desert?
quick carbon
dont remember a war
It ALMOST happened
mild thunder
withdrawing was awful
funny, it was actually initially Trump's timeline, but trumples wouldnt be complaining if he was the one that did it
quick carbon
Generals had to beg him not to do it last second
grand scaffold
bruh yall are so scewed its crazy im out
quick carbon
Ur just a trumpet bro it’s okay
mild thunder
facts and logic bro fr fr ong no cap
teal hedge
Swedens current gov is backed like 20-30% by our nazi party
quick carbon
FACTS AND LOGIC BOYS
teal hedge
Shit's wild
quick carbon
yeah learn some
no u learn more
grand scaffold
no
teal hedge
Yanks have it good
quick carbon
trump sent aircraft to go bomb Iran but had to be BEGGED to not start a world war
grand scaffold
its dogshit with biden
mild thunder
NdogoFury gets DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC in Skyhold PvP!!!
grand scaffold
you cant prove that wrong
quick carbon
its dogshit with biden
Inflation isn’t a Biden issue LMAO
grand scaffold
NdogoFury gets DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC in Skyhold PvP!!!
bruh now you just trying to piss me off
quick carbon
u know nothing ab how economics work
mild thunder
no, now im mocking 2016 trumplicans and how they erroded political discourse online
quick carbon
ndogo gonna go out and protest when trump gets arrested for sure
mild thunder
do you know what infaltion is?
the entire world is facing inflation, it's not unique to the US... it's also not something as easy as "biden fix it"
teal hedge
One thing I've always found funny is americans complaining about gas prices "under biden"
You realise you're still the cheapest in the world, right?
mild thunder
You realise you're still the cheapest in the world, right?
cant afford gas on their non-minimum wage 
quick carbon
u think gas prices is a strictly Biden issue?
u think they wouldn’t have gotten higher under trump?
teal hedge
you realise its gone up?
Our gas prices are 4 times as high as yours 💔
mild thunder
i mean trump probably wouldve let russia steamroll into ukraine because he was a cuck national-populist
quick carbon
I think ur just a moron
grand scaffold
I think ur just a moron
🖕
quick carbon
owned
mild thunder
I think ur just a moron
bayzed
grand scaffold
😂
quick carbon
he pours his milk before his cereal Fr
teal hedge
Never found a Biden supporter before, actuallyu
grand scaffold
Never found a Biden supporter before, actuallyu
neither
quick carbon
I don’t rlly like Biden LOL
mild thunder
I don’t rlly like Biden LOL
stfu
grand scaffold
biden daft
teal hedge
Even my dad, the socialist-democrat disliked him
quick carbon
I only pretend to like him to piss off trumpets
grand scaffold
mentally retarded
mild thunder
as an australian, i love biden
quick carbon
I’m a Bernie fan on god
teal hedge
I'm a Vänsterpartiet fan on god
mild thunder
bernie-or-busters
quick carbon
cuz he supports things that would help people like me and my siblings
teal hedge
I voted for da swedish former-communist party
quick carbon
bernie-or-busters <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I’d rather have any democrat other than Hillary or Kamala
Than trump
or any Republican rn tbf
mild thunder
id take literally anyone over trump
but that's not even a low bar
that's not a bar at all lmao
teal hedge
Even DeSantis?
quick carbon
Hillary is a legit murderer tho not her LOL
mild thunder
Even DeSantis?
any democrat*
teal hedge
So zased
mild thunder
the entire repub party is beyond fucked letsbereal
bright cloak
Never found a Biden supporter before, actuallyu
At least Biden doesn't appear as deep fried crazy as Trump does
teal hedge
All this conspiracy nonsense just made the party collapse
mild thunder
i think my fav trump moment was him getting fact-checked in real-time by a fox news interviewer
quick carbon
bro on the presidential AI videos Biden be roasting the shit outta trump no cap
so Biden superior
mild thunder
best politic opinion^
teal hedge
I think it's cringe to use a hate-rhetoric in order to win elections
grand scaffold
bro on the presidential AI videos Biden be roasting the shit outta trump no cap
the most true thing you said today ngl
mild thunder
I think it's cringe to use a hate-rhetoric in order to win elections
bro idek how people let trump get away with mocking the retarded guy
imagine a running president
doing that
quick carbon
YO THAT SHIT WAS HELLA FUNNY LMFAOOOOO
mild thunder
in front of tens of thousands of people
quick carbon
NO CAP I WAS DYING
mild thunder
or the weird fucking fascisty dancing little girls - "DT is going to make america great"
quick carbon
mild thunder
it was a fever dream
quick carbon
This is wow rn boys
teal hedge
Who's the guy that wanted to end the "trans menace" or whatever
These people get famous by saying this stuff :P
mild thunder
matt walsh
mf thought millions of kids were on pube blockers
after doing a whole doc on trans issues
quick carbon
didn’t joe Rogan check him on that one
quick carbon
owned
teal hedge
And there are still people parotting that gender-reassigning surgery is allowed under 18, it is not :P
Even Elon Musk says it
quick carbon
bro watching Matt Walsh stumble when joe said what’s wrong with gay ppl getting married
Was so funny
quick carbon
he gets hoes tho no cap
mild thunder
i actually dont know wtf is wrong with elon musk
mild thunder
elon musk > democrats
republitard = opinion irrelevant
teal hedge
Elon Musk is actually so stupid it hurts
And his cult-of-personality merely enables him
Stuff is perplexing
quick carbon
It’s just when they run on banning trans ppl and making abortion and gay marriage illegal they just look retarded
mild thunder
bro unironically i would kill for a repub party that was sane and had REAL conservative stances - but nothing they do/say/believe/attempt to push on policy is based in reality rn
quick carbon
republicans push policy based on religion
teal hedge
They're scared of queer people fr
quick carbon
that’s why they disgust me
mild thunder
it's just a mix of weird christian-fundamentalist doctrine and corrupt super-capitalist greed
quick carbon
just dont support teaching it to kids
so the issue with this is
mild thunder
just dont support teaching it to kids
so should kids not be taught about straight people either?
quick carbon
I don’t think telling kids that gay people exist is a bad thing
mild thunder
are kids just not allowed to know about human interactions?
grand scaffold
so should kids not be taught about straight people either?
holy fuck you support that?
quick carbon
like telling kids that people are different isn’t a bad thing
quick carbon
forcing any sexuality on anyone is wrong
mild thunder
teaching kids that gay, trans etc people exist =/= forcing kids to be gay, trans etc
quick carbon
but telling kids that people are going to be different than they are and to not judge them for it
Is the healthiest approach
mild thunder
saying kids shouldnt be taught this shit is literally like white people saying that white kids shouldnt have been taught that black people exist
also i stg andrew masturtate has set back the western world like three decades in terms of social progression
quick carbon
like to pretend u can just hide kids from knowing that gay ppl exist is weird to me, but obviously u shouldn’t force any sexuality onto anyone
bro they making him grow his hair out
In jail
mild thunder
based
mild thunder
human trafficking charges - detainment extended for 18(?) months while they continue investigating
quick carbon
wait so like
they do it differently there then
how can u charge someone while investigating them
shouldn’t u investigate first then arrest them
mild thunder
yea, romania has had massive issues in the past of people just leaving the country when charged with anything, so they have pretty extensive detainment allowances for extreme allegations
and human trafficking, grape pretty extreme
and he is a pretty big flight risk
quick carbon
imagine he’s found not guilty twitter is gonna go insane
mild thunder
they do have to prove that there is cause for the detainment before the judge grants the 18 months ofc
he's 100% guilty, even by his own admission
quick carbon
okay but what if he has the best lawyer on planet earth and he gets off
mild thunder
the way he described his camming business is verbatim human trafficking - meeting young girls/women, tricking them into believing they were dating, leveraging that relationship into getting them to do cam work for him and then stealing most of their pay
quick carbon
Wait LMAOO what
mild thunder
he's literally admit to it all in his coaching vids or whatever the fuck his stans watch
teal hedge
just dont support teaching it to kids
Huh??
copper hare
mild thunder
the guy is retarded to say what he's said
copper hare
thats what you face in shuffle
quick carbon
The definition
copper hare
this game is awful hahahaha
mild thunder
It’s transporting or coercing people
he also flew them all overseas to romania
i just cbf mentioning that part
also did most of the dirty work through his top bitch - some female friend that may or may not have been collected to romanian law enforcement, cant remember
quick carbon
he’d legit be king of the prison hell he fine
mild thunder
ehhhh
idrk what romanian prison conditions are like
but given the fact that romania is trying to legitimise itself and improve its standing with certain bodies like NATO and western powers, they'll want to make an example out of him
joe biden would just send him to guantanamo bay and torture him
quick carbon
bro think ab it
All the money he has he could definitely buy off the guards in that bitch
AND
He’d whoop any inmates ass
In that prison
He’s a legit world champion level kickboxer
quick carbon
he’d kick someone’s fuckin head off
mild thunder
quick carbon
No1 beating him 1v1
and u don’t think he’s going to buy protection in there?
he’s rich lmao
mild thunder
i dont know the specifics, but if he's convicted he'll likely lose most of his wealth and assets as a lot of it is connected to or provided by his illegal camming business
quick carbon
Is his brother arrested too
mild thunder
yep
quick carbon
even still
mild thunder
the matrix got em both (rest up kings) 😥 ✊
quick carbon
They’d just join some aryan brotherhood gang or something
and they’d still beat the shit out of any inmate 1v1
They stand no chance
mild thunder
they can rot, who gives a fuck besides 11 yr old boys that hate their mum for taking their gameboy
quick carbon
if they’re guilty then yes they can rot
mild thunder
or 40 year old boomers that were divorced for being shit husbands
quick carbon
I mean sometimes women leave men cuz bitches be trippin
a lot of these bitches are actually vile lmao
mild thunder
yea but do you really think those poor, innocent victims are the bulk of the tate stans?
quick carbon
I mean the reason why men gravitate towards him
is cuz society largely doesn’t give a fuck about men haha
so they feel they have someone to speak for them
mild thunder
the whole RP/incel/MGTOW/whatever movement is some of the cringiest shit ive ever encountered and i hate women
quick carbon
ya it’s also cringe
but men feel
like no1 gives a fuck about them
These days
Which is also kinda true
so they look for someone who speaks up for men
mild thunder
eh, in some regards but it's also massively overblown
there are plenty of communities that still heavily cater for men
we're in one right now
quick carbon
it’s actually not overblown in some respects
bright cloak
ya boys need a separate channel for this
mild thunder
any gaming community, any sporting community, most religious communities, a lot of online communities in general, most non-corporate work environments all still heavily cater for men
mild thunder
ya boys need a separate channel for this
make a #biden channel then
quick carbon
LOL
mild thunder
politics is just irl pvp
warped warren
politics 
fickle forge
double time should be removed
And bring back Intercept 😎👍
rotund trellis
servers crashed trying to compute your mmr (negative)
zero is neither positive or negative
warped warren
noone said anything about zero
warped warren
And bring back Intercept 😎👍
real
fickle forge
Most melee mobility should be toned down yes
Going back to this one, wasn't MoP considered peak PvP, when something like arms had Double Time with separate cooldowns, Intercept, Leap and Intervene in the same kit? 🤔
fickle forge
PvP'ers know what they want for PvP as much as my girl know where she wants to go and eat
warped warren
all i want is s8
mild thunder
servers crashed trying to compute your mmr (negative)
dark sparrow
PvP'ers know what they want for PvP as much as my girl know where she wants to g...
"You just pick something" Sure. "Oh you picked x..."
warped warren
s8 is the single most gigachad season in the game
(shadowmourne pov)
prove me wrong 
scarlet flame
i had the most fun in mop
mild thunder
how can we prove you wrong when are objectively right?
quick carbon
Going back to this one, wasn't MoP considered peak PvP, when something like arms...
No
People used 12s cd charge
violet fossil
intercept was removed in mop
latent hazel
yo
violet fossil
just had charge 12cd leap and intervene
violet fossil
tf