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true and true
and i hate everything
lost your cr?
man if only they did osmething so healers wanted to play
so queues were fast
right now u can farm mog between queues
every pvper gonna leave DF with
every set collected
i can full clear kara including chess event before queue pops
Solo shuffle queues so long I be grinding old school RuneScape on my 2nd monitor
wot
your in game character is ugly
how
Is anything meaningful changing for 10.0.7?
And by that I mean our resulting behavior/tactics, not actual changes to the class
Can I still be fury and have a jolly time?
Arms is ok but I enjoy fury for feeling more angery
ya
Hmm which build to go on arms tho
check pins
prot pala buffed but you wouldnt believe it
actually ridic
but ret buffs are so good it kinda invalidates prot now
wow
are bms also busted now?
Also the mw players, weren’t all top 10 characters the same guy in EU and Na? Banks and the other guy
In shuffle*
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion, @cursor] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar```
why doesnt this work anymore
Hope you boys enjoy ret war again
Bro fistweavers are fucking lame
Try this instead:
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
tried removing cursor altogether already
still aint workin
and spear works fine so idk syntax seems right O_o
Would priest be a safer bet than preservation to always have a viable healing spec?
is the onyx ring good for pvp
lmao?
?
there aren't 100,000 arms players in shuff
cutoff gonna be like top 5-15 depending on spec popularity
👍
slightly larger as r1 changes made it so same acc doesn't eat up duplicate spots
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunderous Roar]Thunderous Roar; [@player] Spear of Bastion
this is what i use just replace player with cursor and should be fine
whats the best tier pieces to do for warrior?
all but helm
Log in next week
Yo do you guys remember that addon that lets you set up macros with @barren finch and @healer?
Ah this is it https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/dynamicmacros-pvp
My friend switched off his hunter to his ret then we started winning lol
what change? when?
play the new zone a bit
today?
oh, didnt see that
alts on same bnet don't eat slots
ya seems overdue
petkick still gets 10 r1s
but doesn't deny from others
unless he makes another bnet
yea cool
(which he will)
Absolutely do not play 2's right now lol
currently afk levelling my ret
15-20 thousand for the more popular specs, 1 spot per thousand, excluding duplicates on same account
I would not be surprised to see arms as top 30-35
Petkick will cause unholy dk to be kinda similar tbh
Chads, is it true that I shouldn't queue solo because rets are busted (again, ffs)?
Some max fury mongo how to 10.07 guide https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1772146767
lmfao
orc male fury warrior
1600 mmr
every time
I don’t get what this is supposed to be
Is there any point to use 2 insignias on human?
you cant
unique-equipped
Throwback to auto-bubble Legion and room temperature IQ playstyle SL ret
I've already forgotten auto bubble, why are you reminding of it D:
1800 mmr how the fuck do we do anything against triple ret.. no chance to even get a cycle off
get good, noob
nah it's balanced (im a ret main)
Ret mains when blizzard nerfs them into oblivion
this picture fills me with such unexplainable patriotic glory
(not) my president 🥹 ✊
now it’s my pfp
No u need to be this
True
chocolate chocolate chip 😎 
Hello,
I just rerolled Ret Paladin and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing ret for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!

Is there a way to prevent stances from cancelling if i double press?
use macro in pins
Thank you
is bm hunter + ret gonna be the new fotm comp
Bm hunter melee disc has been S tier for weeks already
before adding spots for alts i believe the arms solo shuffle r1 cutoff is 3230 @grand scaffold
ok cool
so i have a ways to go
holy fucking shit
i had a heart attack
check pvp registered my fury rating as my arms rating
i thought my account got hacked and i lost 170 rating
also whats happening to peoples cr
checkpvp is fucked
idk how any of u r even playing wow with how ret is rn
by playing 3's as retwarr probably
Hope they don't fix ret just yet so i can have some fun as retwarr tmrw
Is ret that broken?
yes
I wanted to push this week kek
is ret that good?
idk how many times I have to say yes
whats so good about it
Fuck ret
it’s immortal
oh lol
Kills everything
burst?
i didnt pvp yesterday, hardly watched any pvp. All i saw was tyrant crits for 100k+
Tyrant got deleted instantly
skillcapped says ret is A tier while arms is S 
skillcapped is retarded
I live for their tier lists
anyone who thinks ret isn’t busted beyond belief is a moron
i was watching mes play ret/war and it was very funny

Or in 10.1 i don't remember
spec..
you sure?
ofc
it would make 0 sense to not be spec based lmao
i mean
they worded it in a funny way
End Dragonflight PvP Season 1 in the top 0.1% of the Solo Shuffle ladder (requires 50 games won on your current faction in Dragonflight Season 1)
see
totally
can you imagine if fury warrior cutoff was 2200\
lmfao
what ding dong posted that
wait
has to be showing 1% not .1%
BLIZZARD posted that?
holy shit
im like rank 0 by that logic
hahahaha
official post?
blizzard api for cutoffs datamined
do you believe it?
yeah
i mean
if 2660 is r1 on arms
im safe
aha
idk that seems too low to be true
lmao
Think so
I mean blizz and fucking up code, name a more iconic duo
Quick question from one of the higher rankers here. When playing with a demo lock. What’s the general match strategy for me as warrior and my lock. Is there a consistent win condition?
its gonna be really dumb if its JUST top 1%
It’s per spec ffs
He means top 1% per spec
but it's just blizzard making an oopsie @grand scaffold , nothing new
lmao
hope they fix it soon
Not sure about demo right now but doesn't their felguard just go nuts? you just pressure them with your cd's and once your demo pops, dont let them get away so tyrant/felguard pumps
nah they just buffed felguard, it mauls people now
tyrant got hotfixed cause it was kinda to cranked but it still pumps
is solo shuffle just a shit show for warriors now?
I really should push as prot
is bdk good in shuffle?
not at all
😂
arguably the worst spec to pvp with lol
gdudu at least has utility and offheals
all bdk has is an amz people run out of
theres 2300 prot warriors in shuffle according to checkpvp
so top 2
so basically
if you get 2100 on prot
you get r1
😂
i might actually do that
ngl
no me
so they already changed r1 cutoffs with alts
could change it to top 0.5 or top 1%
although most likely scenario is that
bro
it's just a typo
what is it now?
wdym what typo
like 3200 judging by common sense
2600 according to api
oh that type
we'll see within a few weeks
typo*
might be interesting if they had a 1 or 0.5 reward
no there'll no doubt be a bit of a rift between elite and r1
or maybe not we'll see
either way
based on common sense
3200 on arms
they need to change api
so i know when to sit on my cr

how many prots are there? this queue is taking a while
@dark sparrow thanks
i mean, don't you just get put in with the other dps q's?
same like brewmaster monk etc
only prot pala is exception
*mostly. Ive had double arms lobbies
like 0
SS people confuse me
like
why call out the target if youre not going to attack said target lol
😂
bro im setting up the perfect goes but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
if it was me target calling I wouldnt be as mad
but cmon
dont say "go hunter" then go ret whole match
mayve its because I have a headache
just kill healing stream totem, poof, rsham healing is gone lmao
Bming not cool bro
whats bming lmao
lol thats bm
😂
yeah i checkpvp'd him got excited
hahahaha
The highest rated arms warrior plays with a prot paladin. This class is clearly unplayable if you need a literal tank and a healer on your team just to have a fighting chance at not instantly dying in the opener.
Buff arms warrior, literally unplayable.
Based
arms fuck bad
Is that sarcasm?
no hes fully serious
hes also #1 woyer so id listen to him
I was super excited to play around with Ret, instantly logged in and queued up. Found myself a build from YouTube, and my queue popped! I managed to go 4/6 games, I felt hella tanky but my damage was just utter trash. I couldn’t figure it out, I was only doing 25-30k dps each round, my big crits were only 80-100k.
Turns out my blade of justice was greyed out… at this point I realized I had queued using my hpal hammer and shield.
Proceeded to grab my 2h rogue bonking stick and went 5/6 and 6/6 all night, blasting 40-70k dps per round. Haven’t felt this good since my phantom limb pain in both my missing hands went away.
new 2.1 illusion is pretty cool
its out!?
ye
cool
where can i find it? 😄
check illusions tmog
ahh nice! its automatically added!
yup
Bro war is perfectly fine, its Just not op
did crit nerf already happen?
i thought that was 10.1
???
nah nevermind i was using wrong gear
oh ok
i mean
my crit dmg is much lower
80 ms
70k execute
thats spikes too
idk whats happened
idk
Roughly what % more damage will someone in full set of conquest gear do compared to honor gear? Joining a bit late and noticed my HP is significantly lower than most people in Solo Shuffle but not sure how much of a difference it makes to damage.
uh probs like 10%ish not including tier
big difference

but even on like 410 alts i kill someobdy in opener to like
idk the figures
Gotchas, danke.
nice pfp btw
Aww, thank you. I stole it off the internet myself.
Hey guys, how do you manage ret now as a warrior? when to disarm, use def cd? because i just lost 200 ratings coz of the perfectly balanced changes on this great and skillfull class that is retpal
does Primordial Stones work in pvp?
top50 pvp arms warriors are using 4set of the mountain, so i suppose it's upgrade to use those pieces. But what ilvl 'of the mountain' items are worth using with conquest gear?
The pvp scaling versions
Which does require catalyst
why the fuck are ppl going mastery now all of a sudden? XD
yo saifcham
did crit get nerfed this patch?
like who
im hitting for shit
eveyrone single top rated arms has haste mastery
they swapped the crit sword for polearm
maybe its the wave
Duel them then tell your healer you're dead.
mud whats your opinion
mastery vs crit
about what
mastery is bad on arms
or haste crit better
fury stats
nobody high plays mastery
mastery is fury
isnt crit bad now?
no
no
?
that's next patch
are your crits still hitting hard?
lmao
mine hitting for 80k
doggo wtf are u talking about
bro
crit nerfs are 10.1
:D
moron
@limber relic your crits lower now right?
i mean i havent really tested, mby its just the new content area
all i know
but
who
Lol
just looking at top ladder on eu
just thomasman is the same stats i guess
but rest seems to have ditched crit wep
or start gemming mastery 😒
why would anybody gem mastery instead of haste
dont get me wrong, idk who these ppl are
neither
Dõxqt, devilscandy
Eightysix
Aaàaàaàa
prob the same person tho
idk
Daynñight
fair
mastery is fury's best stat?
ye
what about haste
so you just go full mastery?
dogo u should know this shit
Wait, Mastery > Haste?
furymaster..
i go haste lmfao
fury yea
:D
haste was super good for maintaining slaugher stacks
Man, I've been going Haste/Crit kekw
which isnt a thing anymore
as fury?
Ye
lul
why would you go mastery isntead of haste tho
what about gcd timers
and annihilator
fury spear is fugly imo
as arms ^^
u have enough haste from enrage
mastery = flat dmg increase when enraged
and crit cringe
dude gaslit himself lol
perfect time to wait for ret nerf
Ahh thanks, I need to change Crimson Gladiator gear piece to tier set item and it will keep scaling for pvp 🙂
exactly 🙂 mine ends in 2 days
I really like the usage of red cock on the left
how do i get good at warrior
any good streamers to watch
also is there a cancel aura bladestorm macro that wont cancel it instantly?
scooberz
if i press twice
Yeah, it's called binding a cancelaura bladestorm into abilities other than bladestorm.
hmm that makes a lot of sense
Particularly ones that can't be used during bladestorm.
You'll have to press them twice but it's helpful for quickly bolting, pummeling, intervening, etc.
cancel bladestorm execute macro is important imo
Is there a macro section anywhere?
first game of the night, went 1-5 to a ret, boomy, and feral 
Anybody elese just getting blown the f up by RetPally Holystrikes?
Everyone
Ret is actually viable, usually only happens for a short time
has anyone tested to see if annulet will be good for pvp?
ret is not "viable"
it's the most busted spec in the game
Rsham also looks insane after the Patch. Whenever rsham is the top healer it's the best meta change my mind
Shadowlands? Hello?
The first 4 weeks of dragonflight aswell
nooo, what do you meannn????? they were only oneshotting for 80% of the expansion!!!!
300k elysian shit
tbf early DF ret was very predictable and avoidable
As a war, yes. But that's not the only spec
idk, even as other specs i never thought it was a massive problem... sorta like devo
can do retarded things, but a lot of the time it's because you were letting it
Maybe, your shuffle mates still got globaled left n right
Doesnt change the fact that ret is either busted or dog
Nothing in between
idk, i didnt find early ret to be super problematic, but yea right now it's completely fucking retarded
and yea they definitely didnt do their job of making it a non-oneshot gimmick spec
but now that oneshot is on a 1min CD and final reck lasts 16 seconds 
and they're also borderline unkillable
i dont see a problem here
Good grief.
Funny how they nerfed Demo after like 3 hours
Yeah, Demo with the instant bat and it just got a bug fix today.
And ret nerfs probably wont come before next id
Oh God lol
orc racial dead
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is elemental lariat nerfed in pvp?
druid hot protection sounds nice
orc racial still bis
told you
Amen brother
Now what do I change my warrior into
Tauren or kultiran
no
no
oh well thats nerfed then
Wasnt it 20 per stack?
was 250
Ye
Lmao ok so its not worth to press in pve now
And will be worth to press at 10 stacks in arena
Funni
are you saying the 10% crit chance was overtuned or the 10% crit damage
both
Especially for Arms that relies on crit
Has plenty of crit chance talents
Plenty of crit dmg modifiers
10% crit chance = >10% dps
add 10% crit dmg on top of that and that's a massively overtuned 2pc
and the 4pc is obviously looking to be incredibly strong in pvp
Nerfed now
But still strong in arena
Iirc its still higher than ms
So all cds and it could slap really hard
still 150% dmg, pre decent
Meanwhile survi buffed
sv buffs are wild
Hunter players gtfo
Relax, im 2k rated warrior too 
I am one of you, but less biased
And I even gave tips on how to play against Hunters 
shuffle 
demonic gladiator artji
And got 2k in 3s in shadowlands s2 at the start
I am a holder of biggest killshot and bigger aftercock from s2 and s1 respectively xD
They also buffed enha set bonuses like by 100%
Shaman Burrow Talent -
Burrow beneath the ground, becoming unattackable, removing movement impairing effects, and increasing your movement speed by 50% for 5 seconds. When the effect ends, enemies within 6 yards are knocked in the air and take Physical damage.
LOL
And now if u purge druid hots 3 times and n a row u get root silence for 3 sec
Does conquest gear retain its ilvl when you transform it into tier via catalyst
Yes
Imagine burrow into a smoke bomb
Get 0 cc on the way to save ur bro
Haha
still shit
like, extremely shit
the 2pc will be decent now tho
U get 30% to Phy damage
Ye sure it’s better use as cc
But still
- enh doesnt do a lot of phys dmg
- that's only if you hit ONLY one target, which is super rare
it's a horrible tier set
isn't the best enhance set rn lava lash
hopefully gets completely changed, because it's fundamentally shit
so all of their damage is fire
Ele blast isn’t main damage
lava lash build pre popular atm
Storm strike and wind fury are
It is
p sure its nature
Windfury is physical.
Wrong. There is 2 different builds, one for mostly physical and one for mostly spell dmg
even the purely phys build does ~40% phys dmg overall
that's barely a phys build
Arms bleed spec when?
but yea getting a 30% phys buff to a spec that barely does phys dmg, if they ONLY hit one target with their main aoe cc/burst in a meta with 1000 pets is not a good set bonus lol
Its shit in m+ too
it's shit in literally everything
And they balance game around pve
I meaaaaaan
Single target bosses
Its a small dmg amp xD
even in single-target it won't be great, or it'll shoehorn you into purely one build
But it looks like survi will be s1 tier set in s2
Cuz its that busted xD
So im back to warr for pve
maybe not after the sv tier buffs
KC now makes your target take 100% more dmg from bomb for 8sec
kinda... wild
I've been mia from the game last few weeks cause of work. Word is ret is stupid OP after their rework?
nah, totally balanced

Guess I'll stay off my grind and dink around on alts til they get the bat
Ye excpet bomb sucks ass
In pvp it'll be very good
But pve whatever
yea probs
By half.
Orc probs bis again shambles
yo whats our rotational priorty?
i feel like my overpower hits harder than mortal strike lowkey
LOL this is right after they did race change discounts
yoyoyo haven't logged in a couple of days, hows pala doing
ret is pretty bad right now but people complain because they don't know how to outplay
is wings >run still working?
If you're trained in cardio maybe because you better run every minute
my cardio sucks
100%, idk why people think it's so strong... 250k globals every minute? just leap omegalul
leap 30sec cd ggs
Just need to pre /afk the round
LOL
They knew what they were doing
There's a ret on my server that just sits outside of gladiators sanctum all day and duels random people
I bet he's as happy as a clam right now
Bunch of pvpers who race changed and are now stuck looking ugly sadge
just going dwarf finally, best looking shit
that's including all sham specs tho
and ive definitely seen an uptick in enh
and still a lot of ele
yea pala is retarded'
42k and probably like 20 prot palas and 1k holy palas lol
I feel like ele is definitely not as bad anymore with the hp buffs and buffs to other specs, it doesn't really have the one shot potential anymore and outside of that the dmg is like fine compared to other casters
Any changes to arms talents or builds for pvp after the patch?
Retribution
Fixed an issue that caused Aura of Reckoning to not function with the Crusading Strikes talent.
im sure of all the feedback they got from Ret rework, this would be the least of their concerns
if you're basing 10.1 choices on the 1st week of 10.0.7, idk what to say
i mean, that's a fine response
I mean he did that every round
rather they meme and know how retarded it is than think they're gigagods overnight
lol
like "lol I'm so good", "lol just follow me I'll win this for you" etc.
spoiler: he was shit. LMAO
i mean, did he say he was good? sounds like he was just memeing
na he was legit convinced he was god on earth lol. had fun games tho, happy to ahve scored a 3-3 with one win against him
hahaha
the forbidden reach set in full green is really cool btw
how is the bug where your keybinds and cooldown timerso nyour abilities disappear from your bars mid combat
unreal
LOL
didnt even know it was possible to have 4 of the same spec
how common is kickbotting? i only recently started playing caster and never really ran into that, but just had a 2k lobby on my affy spec and this challenger/rival ret was insta kicking drainlife ONLY. if i pressed cancel cast as soon as i pressed drainlife he'd insta kick and give me precog every time. 0 kicks on anyone when he on my team
jesus
what's even more sad is how everyone was ready to go with their ret to fotm over
is infurious helm of vengeance worth or should i get the normal conquest helm
Maybe we do need 8 ranks of pvp upgrades per slot, renown, conduits, longer time to hit max level, torghast/korthia stuff
it doesnt matter what you do as a healer
you have to trinket first hoj or you die
you die second hoj
Just ground ez
have you tried lining the 3 retribution paladins

you cant move in ghost wolve with their judgement
12 second horsie 
Inb4 "A warrior speared me during wings and my partner died while I was in spear nerf warriors"
Only 1 in arena, fakenews
they are all waiting 1hr for solo pop
yeah and then I get 4 rets in my shit lobby
Wait, the only one in arena is listed as afk
xd
waited 30min for a shuffy queue
get a ret in it
monk healer not happy leaves round 2
damm
does ret have a shorter bubble cd with their new redesign
swear this guy bubbled air and had it back 1min 30 sec later
@copper hare is it a fiesta on how many wins the rets get or is it clear cut and someone will get 6 wins
feel like that kind of lobby boils down to rng whichever rets explode one target by accident
when ret was broken a bit back thats how it was with just 2 rets in a lobby, cant imagine 4 lmao
prob rip a big afker
these rets running the judge cleanse and divine tolling not even caring about UA debuff
How is it like playing on 2000s+? Guess I'll try to stay away from it until they tune ret properly. I really wanted to get the 2400 reward. Haha!
2k lobbies right now are like 1600 lobbies in regular 3s
there is no difference between 2k and 3k lobbies right now
2000-2400 is out of whack as I've heard. Many 1500 hardatuck rets get there and get creamed by people who start having more than 3 braincells
ye i watch some people tank from 3k to 2200 lol
they will probably nerf the shit outta justicars vengeance
Remove the 4 holy power talent and the stun damage on JV
remove rets
Just remove wheelchair ramps
The wheel chair now has a mounted bazooka
They just discovered their true calling kind of like every healer finding disc a few weeks ago
Hello,
I just rerolled Ret Paladin and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing ret for 2 days, I just hit my first elite! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!
there was never something like this or?
I mean there was always op shit but
i dont remember an abomination like that
playing ret felt like cheating

but queues are 40-45 min long
probably even more now
Literally everyone that played ptr warned them
lmao ret pally needs a nerf
Prot pally lobbies lasting longer than regular healer lobbies 
Sinister season dk was current ret tier
absolutely disgusting broken beyond belief killed anything that moved immune to death with 12% hp necrotic strike absorb while abomination would solo anything it touched
Nightmares to this day
sinister dk actually probably better than current ret no cap
funny how 1.6 rets are at 2.4 now 🤩
no shit, sherlock
Don't worry guys! Rets are doing absurdly good which means people will keep blaming Arms for doing 100k hits or Fury self healing. 🙂
Remember when I told u ret would be broken as fuck and u were like nahhhhhh
nahhhhhhhhh
is it worth using the new ring for pvp?
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S2 elite enchant
Fucking BIS
OKAAAAY
thats the single best enchant in the game or????

Yes
Yes.
Just wait for a class rework and do it in an afternoon 

Easy quick 2100 then back to chilling
Ask blizz for 5 days of prep
i refuse to sit 40 mins in soloq queue

just to have my actionbars bugged
last time i played i couldnt mortal strike

first good enchant since s1 SL nice
Wish it was for 2.4 Arena again
Not a Fan of all these ppl getting that stuff in shuffle
Would you get it if it wasn't easy?
fury bros how we doin
fuck me
this enchant is Nefarian spell
from BWL
even more epic
Shadowflame
i want it
isn't hook point an arena too
a lot of people are happy they get stuff from shuffle and that its not a high rank to achieve so i doubt they'll change it now
is orc still gonna be bis horde race for pvp with the nerf coming?
I doubt they’ll change it too but I wish they would
2400 enchants just feel right
2100 can just be elite mog or something
would you rather the weapons and armor be 2100 ?
yes
Yeah getting demonic Tyranny felt rewarding
personally idc either way i doubt ill get to 2400 lmfao
if u q shuffle u will
man in legion
Demonic tyranny
Is what drove me to get 24
I wanted that enchant so bad
Also they put a lot of work into the elite (rival) sets this season, 1800 is definitely too low
Yeah 1800 is literally
I don’t wanna be disrespectful
1800 too low tho
For sure
I mogged it for like one day because everyone is using these
this season 2100 enchant would be fine in 3v3 ya
Yeah totally
2100 this ssn is 24 in any other season
AT LEAST 24
in any other ssn
Solo shuffle legit ruined rating imo
R1 in NA rn is like 2550
ya 21 rn is probably 3300 in unchained lmfao
ppl were legit 3800 in unchained that’s so insane
ya
