im so fucking stupid
#pvp
mild thunder
it's pre good into a lot of things
mild thunder
vs priest, vs warr, vs lock kinda
tawny brook
I did my last 2 full matches in defensive stance.
quick carbon
god im such a tard
quick carbon
just hit hamstring???
mild thunder
no
quick carbon
YES
mild thunder
slam > hamstring 
quick carbon
or just play with another class that slows for u
ezpz
q tsg take hamstring off ur bar
mild thunder
tsg 🤢
quick carbon
f u
mild thunder
cringe comp
tawny brook
What makes feral druid so difficult in pvp?
mild thunder
difficult to play?
it's not really, at least not anymore... used to be pretty high skill-cap late SL when they ran the swarm build, but now dot maintenance is mostly passive and aoe
and they dont even have to think about when to go for clones anymore
no more bloodtalons maintenance
most dont run swarm anymore
you need to pre-bear stuff and be decent at kiting, but that's about it, not really difficult anymore
indigo barn
Watching people play it, it feels like you can run it down mid to 2100 and SI your way out of problems
And thorns is funny as into low rated melee lobbies
mild thunder
feral really went from one of the most fun and high-skill pvp specs in SL to braindead, mongo PW spam in DF
glow-down
quick carbon
not every team has a disarm
and I just send warbreaker by itself vs disarm teams
90% of the time they insta disarm it
Then u send everything next warbreaker
u can just find windows to delete ppl with spear still feelsgood
mild thunder
but spear feels so alpha still
spear still feels so insane into the right stuff
quick carbon
ya
mild thunder
just ran into a double hunt, prevo, hpal, ret lobby
mild thunder
spear was insane there
mild thunder
tru
lean burrow
but they got meta+netherwalk
quick carbon
ya
they trinket
then u get ur buttons b4 they get trinket
again
then u just win
mild thunder
but they got meta+netherwalk
yea but they're retarded
rich peak
It seems conquest boxes are returning
I did not play wow when this was a thing
How does it affect gearing?
smoky tapir
you can gamble for a weapon, or you can save for the pieces you want. Its mostly about being able to send it to alts if you have too much conquest.
sharp meteor
375 conquest for a box that can have any piece of conq gear in it
the box is boa
basically conq dump to catchup alts
mild thunder
375 conquest for a box that can have any piece of conq gear in it
is this tomorrow?
sharp meteor
ye
lean burrow
giga cringe tbh
it means playing on alts in full honor will get harder cuz no conquest for boxes but everyone else get geared
mild thunder
bro what
how are you complaining about conq boxes
if you cant beat conq geared players in honour gear that's a skill issue anyway lmao
it's a pretty good system tbh - gear alt with boxes > play alt to 1800 > use conq on alt to gear next alt > play new alt to 1800 > repeat
sharp meteor
it means playing on alts in full honor will get harder cuz no conquest for boxes...
idk i was mulching up dweebs in full conq gear on my shitcan honor alts just fine
gear gap felt pretty small its just annoying to grind the conq on fresh alt
like gimme 4pc within 10 mins of dinging 70
lean burrow
i got the rival set on hunter but gear gap was noticeable
mild thunder
ngl it was almost definitely not the gear gap you were noticing
indigo barn
Gear gap is like, 30k ish hp?
mild thunder
it was a skill gap
lean burrow
now it will be even more noticeable
sharp meteor
idk about that
indigo barn
Prot Pala 
mild thunder
anyone complaining about an ~11ilvl gap is coping
lean burrow
tho it would be useless since just grinding to rival in honor gear would be faster than grinding conquest
mild thunder
complaining about problems that dont exist 
tawny brook
Does disarm work against feral and monk?
quick carbon
it stops fof from ww
that’s it tho
I never use disarm vs ww
u can just stormbolt it anyway
fathom cliff
as a Fury warrior I have 1 two-hander already should i buy another with conquest or buy gear?
fathom cliff
ill buy another weapon 🙂
mild thunder
Does disarm work against feral?
no
hardy mulch
I dont know if their claws count as weapons lol
That's how you disarm a feral
mild thunder
I never use disarm vs ww
imo if you're versing ww/melee it can be worth to disarm serenity since you'll have it anyway and FoF is like a ~6s CD during serenity
but not worth taking solely for ww
quick carbon
if I fought something like ww dh or wwdk I’d just disarm the dh or dk
Way more value
mild thunder
outside of serenity, defs... during, maybe not
because stopping fists also hardcore cucks their rsk dmg
quick carbon
disarming essence break from dh takes priority over fof for me idk
mild thunder
i never disarm dh
quick carbon
why
quick carbon
Disarming dh is insane
mild thunder
and bam, gone
quick carbon
Do it on essence break and they can’t 120k blade dance u
mild thunder
they just backflip
and then come back and 120k blade dance you
if they have hands
quick carbon
idk there’s still way more value in disarming dh
mild thunder
if you wanna stop blade dance, kick the eye beam
quick carbon
like I can use the same argument if ww just pre fists disarm
mild thunder
locks them from casting
mild thunder
like I can use the same argument if ww just pre fists disarm
use it when FoF is coming off cd
so they cant
or get the angle
not the same argument at all
quick carbon
idk blade dance essence break scarier than serenity ww I swear
mild thunder
defs disagree, but even still
there's no point disarming a dh
when all it takes is one global
to remove it
quick carbon
u also have fear every serenity
mild thunder
you also have stun every essence break, but most games arent super scripted like that
idk why you think disarming a dh that backflips on a 20sec CD to remove it is high value
quick carbon
idk it usually keeps me from getting blasted by them
mild thunder
are you versing retards?
mild thunder
I’ve done it the entire expansion
then you've been dumb the entire expansion
vengeful retreat is a 20s, off-gcd disarm remover
quick carbon
idk I’ve played against dh the same way and I do fine into them LOL
quick carbon
I mean even if they’re removing disarm off cd
That means they can’t glimpse ur stormbolt B)
mild thunder
glimpsing the disarm is more reliable, they're never wasting it
quick carbon
glimpsing stormbolt is more tilting for me idc
mild thunder
but a dh with a brain is always making sure they have glimpse for eye beam go if versing a disarm spec
they can also still glimpse bolts between their CD
quick carbon
I feel like disarming
To get glimpse
Is worth tho
Cuz dh just takes massive cock
From arms
mild thunder
they also just take massive cock without being stunned and without you wasting a disarm/pvp talent
mild thunder
what is?
quick carbon
Glimpse removing disarm
mild thunder
well if it's a bug its been around since start of SL at least
and they're not changing it
quick carbon
and ya dh takes cock without stunning but stunning is just guaranteed erect cock
into their face
mild thunder
and hoping disarm will save you from their go is bending over and giving your ass to their erect cock
mild thunder
i mean neither, but that's because im arms and we have other ways of avoiding their dmg
quick carbon
Than warrior does to dh
mild thunder
has nothing to do with disarm lol
quick carbon
I just like getting glimpse out of the way so I don’t crack under the pressure
mild thunder
dh hasnt been a problem in ages
quick carbon
And get my stormbolt back flipped
quick carbon
dude fuck u I swear they just read my mind
mild thunder
idk i stg ive only had one bolt glimpsed all xpac
and that was me being a retard
and seeing him glimpse and still stunning
tawny brook
That's how you disarm a feral
🤣
mild thunder
wwdk still can 300-0 ur team
yea probs is
my opinion's just fucked cause kitty rolls melee cleaves
literally no melee competes with feral dmg
it's retarded
mild thunder
we'll see
kitty will be higher dmg, more cc
ret/warr more durable
burstier
idk, feels hard to judge how good ret will be
vital dust
who should i focus as warr/dh vs warr/kitty? we struggle a lot vs ferals in general cause of the high dmg as gala says
mild thunder
focus feral
but it'll always be a tough matchup
if they have a disc you can train the healer
if they have an rdru, swap healer when the kill-target is fully hotted because the throughput will be too high
if they have an hpal, swap on sac, or during forbearance window
vital dust
aight thanks for the advice, will try it out next session
mild thunder
you can potentially split targets (one hits feral, other hits healer), but not always a great strat
since cleave-pveing will never be in your favour
vital dust
yea im not a fan of splitting personally
quick carbon
u can also just
Blast warrior too
warriors still get folded
Warrior rlly 100-0able in stuns
mild thunder
going warrior into kitty cleave is pretty troll
feral gets run down pretty hard
idk id say training healer is the best option if it's a disc
rugged creek
i'm a bit at a loss here. i'm told Arms is S-A tier (supposedly) but i'm having the hardest time going up in Solo shuffle with my arms. i literally cannot get in melee range unless it's a melee sticking on me. all my other classes are 1800-2000 but warrior, holy shit i can't get past 1500
mild thunder
how many games have you played?
rugged creek
can't recall, like 20 (x 6) Solo shuffles. but the odd thing is, i have played warrior in other seasons before and always managed 1800+ in either 2s or 3s. so i'm just pondering what's suddenly so hard to grasp this season xd.
I put slows, stun before goes, follow up on cc where i see an openening, peel for others, use disarm & war banner. But I just never get to the kill. (i mean lately i've been running only into ranged Lobbies (read: hunters & mages), which already is a nightmare.. but still.
dark sparrow
You'd be better off recording and posting in the review channel because kinda hard to give feedback
rugged creek
True, i'd figure i'd start here if I'm missing something very basic. 🙂
dark sparrow
I mean, it can be hard af to stick onto double casters in a big map when they have brains but at that rating, you should be able to just dome people ngl
rugged creek
Worst lobby i had so far was Arcane, frost mage & a hunter. Ngl, i was ready to throw my laptop through the window.
mild thunder
can't recall, like 20 (x 6) Solo shuffles. but the odd thing is, i have played w...
idk, not really enough games to be "stuck" imo
dark sparrow
Worst lobby i had so far was Arcane, frost mage & a hunter. Ngl, i was ready to ...
Thing is vs mages, it’s rough to connect but once you connect, you destroy them
Also hella fun to hit the spear from downtown, charge in and just 100-0 them
grand scaffold
Also hella fun to hit the spear from downtown, charge in and just 100-0 them
so sad warbringer getting nerfed
grand scaffold
🤨
bro do you have a valid statement
first execute is good
second warbringer is retarded
whats next
quick carbon
looks like executes good to me
tell me how charge critting someone for 60k isn’t retarded
grand scaffold
tell me how charge critting someone for 60k isn’t retarded
bro
i have never heard a warrior wanting to get their class nerfed
😂
quick carbon
it’s just a dumb talent
Dumb things should be removed idc what class it’s on
6s intervene in sl was retarded
I call out when my class is retarded
quick carbon
I never said other classes don’t have retarded things
grand scaffold
😂
quick carbon
But so does warrior
Ask @mild thunder he was there for my rogue rant
I fucking hate rogues
they’re the most broken spec in the game rn
sub rogue*
grand scaffold
is sec tech getting nerfed?
quick carbon
destro is retarded warrior is retarded rogue is retarded bm hunter is retarded
Some of sub rogue damage amps are getting nerfed
Sub rogue is still going to be top top top top tier
They’re going to be even more broken in 10.1
quaint snow
so sad warbringer getting nerfed
whats getting nerfed?!?
quick carbon
whats getting nerfed?!?
Warbringer damage
like I can name things about almost every class
That’s retarded
mild thunder
Of me complaining about rogue
based arms behaviour
quick carbon
just cuz I call out warrior when it’s retarded doesn’t mean I don’t call out other specs cuz I absolutely do
mild thunder
warbringer defs retarded too
quick carbon
ya it’s so dumb
imagine dying cuz the warrior charges you for 50-60k into his insane mortal strike execute damage
mild thunder
makes versing warriors too cringe because kiting can just be a death sentence
mild thunder
12 sec charge/charge stun choice node would be bis
mild thunder
juice
mild thunder
did you see my 100k fatal mark?
quick carbon
ya
mild thunder
juiced
mild thunder
yea it was a 3v3 turned into a 2v2 against feral/disc
they kited us for like 3 minutes
quick carbon
get owned
quick carbon
I like when execute lights up and then whatever I’m hitting takes big dam
it’s most satisfying feeling
mild thunder
clunk
quick carbon
it’s almost as if
mild thunder
Animation still sucks
quick carbon
ppl want execute
To hit as hard as it can hit in your cds
But to have it hit that hard
Baseline
or something
That’s just me tho
just my pov
mild thunder
Execute animation glyph when
quick carbon
ya condemn animation lame
mild thunder
Instead of the stupid heroic throw glyph we’re getting
quick carbon
yo actually u know what I’m thinking rn
undone pumice
how aboutfixing deep wounds glyph to be useable
quick carbon
maybe people would think execute does more damage of massacre didn’t exist
undone pumice
it is literally unusable atm lol
mild thunder
how aboutfixing deep wounds glyph to be useable
also true
It’s literally our ability
undone pumice
or we get a mortal strike glyph that gives mortal the condemn anim
quick carbon
cuz execute at 20% would kill ppl way faster than execute at 35%
undone pumice
more fitting imo
undone pumice
we do
undone pumice
thundetclap is class tree
mild thunder
maybe people would think execute does more damage of massacre didn’t exist
I kinda agree… 35% execute is honestly a little op and means they have to balance it too carefully, but 20% means we don’t get to use it enough
undone pumice
near fear
undone pumice
oh
mild thunder
20% is a really, really small window these days
quick carbon
That makes it shoot lightning
undone pumice
ye deep wounds is the same bug
can only be use don prot
but dw is arms only
and thundeclap classwide
small indie company
quick carbon
20% is a really, really small window these days
My point is people would feel more satisfied with execute as a finisher because you could probably nearly 1 tap from 20-0 with it
mild thunder
My point is people would feel more satisfied with execute as a finisher because ...
I’d be down
quick carbon
like if u hit someone with a 100k execute at 20%
undone pumice
could balance it like divine rapier in dota where its so rare and such a flex to see
quick carbon
I mean just pick
undone pumice
We’d need like
a big aura buff on exe and a funny talent
quick carbon
Another talent
mild thunder
Cause we don’t have much other cool stuff in the tree
quick carbon
a big aura buff on exe and a funny talent
Execute already does enough damage
you think it doesn’t do damage because at 35% it isn’t one shotting
quick carbon
exploiter was making us just butt fuck people tho
mild thunder
Yea but now I almost never even use it
quick carbon
I mean it’s just a toxic talent for pvp
mild thunder
Also remove unhinged, it’s just stupid
quick carbon
OH I GOT SUDDEN DEATH PROC THIS GUYS DONE FOR
Ya make bladestorm do damage on its own
mild thunder
Also sucks that unhinged gets eaten by pets
quick carbon
Galachad I’m so happy to have u on the execute does damage train
welcome welcome
imagine if they changed unhinged to be wrath bladestorm
that would be pog
mild thunder
Where we could get disarmed out of it? No thanks 
mild thunder
quick carbon
bro ur a hater wrath storm owned
mild thunder
There’s too many disarms bro, and every time they add a new one it feels like a targeted arms nerf
quick carbon
disarm affects other specs way more than it does arms warrior
mild thunder
That gives a pretty high chance there will be at least one disarm
quick carbon
lets b honest
mild thunder
disarm affects other specs way more than it does arms warrior
Cap
It affects fdk and sub as much as us
quick carbon
you’ll always get every other warbreaker clean
it affects fdk WAYYYYY more
Than it does us
Pillar is on a 1m cd
mild thunder
It stops both our dmg completely
quick carbon
yes and they can’t get it any lower
Than 45 seconds
because icecap is nerfed
and we have disarm every 45 seconds
Fdk gets fucked by disarm way worse than arms does
Like they get completely cucked by it
frost dk is only doing damage in pillar
Arms does damage all game
mild thunder
I still wouldn’t even say that’s worse considering they can literally save trinket for disarms better than we can
quick carbon
trinketing a disarm is so troll tho lmao
Just sit the disarm and get a clean warbreaker next time
mild thunder
Dk already has stun breaks, fear breaks, cc avoidance with ams etc
They can afford to trinket a disarm
quick carbon
frost dk using its wall to break a stun and not for the actual wall is also troll
like warrior bm rogue feral can just force ibf by doing damage
don’t even need to stun them
trinketing a disarm to do damage is still fried
mild thunder
frost dk using its wall to break a stun and not for the actual wall is also trol...
Agreed, but dks are retarded
quick carbon
no but like it’s bad to just trinket disarm cuz u can ibf stun is what I’m saying
cuz dks get folded by physical damage rlly rlly bad
mild thunder
I’m not gonna admit dks get cucked by disarms more than we do
quick carbon
frost dk is the spec that gets absolutely cooked the most by disarm
mild thunder
Rogues literally got given a disarm specifically to counter us
quick carbon
even if warrior couldn’t lower warbreaker cd
At all
It would still not hurt us as much as dk
Cuz we’re doing damage all game
Frost dk hits for 15k obliterates outside of pillar
And 120k inside of pillar lmao
they ONLY do damage with pillar
mild thunder
Even if I did agree that fdk got cucked harder by disarms, aren’t they the perfect example of disarms being too common and too op, considering they’re dead in the water this season?
They work in one gimmick oneshot comp
And that’s it
quick carbon
they aren’t dead in the water
Frost dk is good right now
It’s the best it’s been since sl s1
undone pumice
they aren’t dead in the water
they are dead and drowned
mild thunder
It’s the best it’s been since sl s1
That is a depressingly low bar
quick carbon
yes it is
S tier is broken A tier is very competitive B tier is good
c tier is bad
mild thunder
And when S tier is so far ahead, B is definitely not good
Fury is B tier, it’s definitely not “good”
quick carbon
frost dk is better than fury warrior
name me one fury comp that’s better than wwdk/Draco cleave
mild thunder
I’d tentatively agree with that
quick carbon
name me one enhancement shaman comp that’s better than wwdk/Draco cleave
Ur telling me turbo is better than wwdk? I call cap
I call so much cap
mild thunder
The problem with fury is that it doesn’t have a niche - fdk oneshots, but that’s all it does
It has good cc and good burst
quick carbon
wwdk afk chains of ices until they 1 shot turbo with pillar
mild thunder
But it’s squishy, does no sustain dmg and has no mobility
quick carbon
Frost dks setup
Is the most terrifying damage in wow rn
when they land it they’re super fucking broken
mild thunder
It’s literally the same as unholy setup
quick carbon
When they don’t they’re super fucking ass
unholys setup is just run in do 40k dps the entire game and win with stun strang while ur pets do 40k dps
frost dk NEEEEDS the setup to win
At all
quick carbon
it’s good
mild thunder
A = good
B = viable
quick carbon
the spec absolutely works
Ladder wise
and apparently in tournaments too since mes still 300-0s entire teams with it
mild thunder
Tournaments =/= ladder
Super setup comps like that are always better in awc
quick carbon
point is frost dk is absolute destroyed by disarm way worse than we are
I need u to concede
quick carbon
Tournaments =/= ladder
Super setup comps like that are always better in awc
not true historically setup comps haven’t even won the most blizzcons
mild thunder
I will concede that when you concede that blizzard has used giving disarms to specs as a way to target nerf arms
quick carbon
lock shaman and cleaves have won more blizzcons than rmp for example
quick carbon
I will concede that when you concede that blizzard has used giving disarms to sp...
it’s a nerf to every melee not just arms
cuz clearly disarm fucks melee just as hard if not more than us
mild thunder
it’s a nerf to every melee not just arms
Giving rogues disarm was very specifically to give them the edge over us
Admit it
quick carbon
rogues had disarm years before they got it back in legion tho lmao
mild thunder
Blizzard didn’t give rogues a disarm so they would have better matchups into frost dk, because rogues weren’t complaining about frost dk
quick carbon
rogue had disarm before all disarms got removed in wod tho
muted surge
Not being able to disarm bladestorm was a direct buff to counter the directed nerfs to arms via disarm
mild thunder
rogue had disarm before all disarms got removed in wod tho
Don’t care, they didn’t get it back until they all started bitching about arms in SL
quick carbon
because arms warrior was completely out of control retarded busted god tier in sl
It needed to be smashed with the nerf hammer multiple times
To bring it in line
mild thunder
I don’t disagree
So you agree that blizzard used giving a disarm to rogues as a way to target nerf arms)
quick carbon
I don’t think it was to target warrior specifically
mild thunder
Omega cope
quick carbon
because disarm isn’t any stronger on us than it is for other melee who rely on their melee for attacking
mild thunder
Rogues weren’t complaining about their matchups into melee as a whole, they were only complaining about arms warriors
mild thunder
because disarm isn’t any stronger on us than it is for other melee who rely on t...
Also disagree
quick carbon
rogues were complaining because warriors would hit intervene and make their whole go useless lmao
mild thunder
No other class loses their main defensive by being disarmed
muted surge
because arms warrior was completely out of control retarded busted god tier in s...
Wait it was? Did I miss my free glad :(
quick carbon
the only class that can disarm through parry is monk and if u get ur parry pre disarmed then u got outplayed
simple as that
mild thunder
Outplayed because they disarm during the last half second of a stun?
That’s just a rogue using their hands
quick carbon
if ur getting disarmed offensively as warrior
then u get free damage
That’s a fair trade to me
mild thunder
Doesn’t matter when they can get w 15sex + window of you not being able to wall
There’s no way you’re defending this
mild thunder
There were so many better, healthier ways of nerfing warrior
mild thunder
and rmp in sl didn’t even go warrior lmao
So?
quick carbon
rogue having disarm is fine idc if they have disarm
quick carbon
So?
So your entire reasoning of not being able to wall cuz he disarmed me is invalid
Cuz as warrior u were probably intervene parrying ur ret paladin anyway lmao
while sitting d stance the entire game
And still doing top damage
lmao
mild thunder
Cuz as warrior u were probably intervene parrying ur ret paladin anyway lmao
So they also stop your party on intervene?
Or your bladestorm
Also stop admitting you played ret/warr, it makes me not respect you
quick carbon
u think rmps we’re disarming u to make sure u couldn’t parry when u hit intervene?
I never had that happen to me in my life
I played ret war in s1 of sl sure haha
Played unholy tsg s2
idc if u respect me or not
mild thunder
Disgusting
mild thunder
Im not disagreeing that it was broken
quick carbon
(unholy tsg s2 was before unholy dk was god tier in s3)
mild thunder
I’ve said it a thousand times
mild thunder
I did say that there were better, healthier ways to nerf warrior than giving rogue a disarm
quick carbon
the better healthier way
was to absolutely
Gut intervene
And nerf d stance like they did
mild thunder
Arms is supposed to be a tank, not a Superman level damage dealer
quick carbon
Of sl
mild thunder
I’d rather be tanky with mid dmg
quick carbon
arms isn’t supposed to be a tank
it’s supposed to be durable
and it’s more durable than a lot of other specs r rn
mild thunder
In PvP, it’s supposed to function like a tank
quick carbon
no it isn’t
mild thunder
That’s always been the design philosophy - tank, brawler, whatever you wanna call it
Not the retarded dmg we do now
quick carbon
arms warrior right now out boxes and out brawls every other melee so
I don’t want arms to be tank unkillable livelord
mild thunder
With retarded dmg though
quick carbon
it should do heavy damage and be on the more durable side sure
warrior should do big damage it’s warrior it has a big fucking axe
arms warrior defensively is more than fine right now
quick carbon
it’s not the top damage dealer right now tho
mild thunder
arms warrior defensively is more than fine right now
You literally said before that arms gets 100-0s easily in a stun
quick carbon
Plenty of classes out damage arms warriors in games
mild thunder
it’s not the top damage dealer right now tho
Single-target, it’s definitely one of the highest melee dmg dealers
Doesn’t have splash aoe like other specs so it doesn’t pad so hard
quick carbon
yes arms warrior AS WELL AS MANY OTHER SPECS HAVE VERY HIGH BURST
dh rogue ww warrior unholy dk enhance shaman ALLLLLLL do retarded burst damage st
and that’s just melee
mild thunder
yes arms warrior AS WELL AS MANY OTHER SPECS HAVE VERY HIGH BURST
AND ARMS SHOULDNT HAVE RETARDED BUDST
Arms also has retarded sustained dmg
quick carbon
yes as do many other melee yes
I’d rather arms be a high consistent damage spec I agree
mild thunder
If you don’t think arms is a top, top tier dmg dealer right now idk what to say
quick carbon
I’m not saying it isn’t one of the higher damage specs
I can name classes that outdamage warrior tho lmao
mild thunder
Certainly seemed like that’s what you’re saying
I don’t care about overall splash aoe dmg, I was talking specifically about single-target dmg
muted surge
Feral > arms
quick carbon
Warrior damage is absolutely insane I’m not denying it
mild thunder
Which arms is absurdly good at
quick carbon
single target damage a lot of other melee can do ridiculous damage too tho
it’s not just a warrior thing
some melee do higher single target burst than warrior does
mild thunder
Im also not just talking about burst
Arms burst isn’t that problematic compared to other specs atm
quick carbon
I mean in my opinion arms warrior should be one of the highest consistent damage specs
I’d rather that be it’s thing
mild thunder
But in single-target, sustained dmg, arms is a retarded god
quick carbon
Rather than giga 1 shots
mild thunder
And it shouldn’t be
quick carbon
unholy dk and ww both rival warrior consistent damage
mild thunder
Our dmg should be tuned down a fair bit and made tankier to compensate
quick carbon
will argue that to the grave
mild thunder
unholy dk and ww both rival warrior consistent damage
Definitely disagree, also none of those specs have a sharpen effect to make that damage even more effective
mild thunder
It’ll be needed for next season, trust me
mild thunder
Neither of us wanna be playing that s2 meta without sharpen to end games
quick carbon
I kinda think s2 is just gonna be
Whoever gets the other healers mana to 0 first wins
sharpen won’t be nearly as powerful that’s true
mild thunder
How fun
quick carbon
but s2 isn’t going to be sharpen is needed to win the game!!!
It’s gonna be
Do more damage so their healer goes oom and u win
scarlet flame
Our dmg should be tuned down a fair bit and made tankier to compensate
that sounds giga boring
just play prot
mild thunder
It’s gonna be “without sharpen id slit my wrists this game”
scarlet flame
mild thunder
that sounds giga boring
That’s funny bro, I don’t remember asking
scarlet flame
dont play melee then
what you're saying is nerf its damage by like what 30%? then make it tankier
you want your only job to be MS bot?
big damp game man?
mild thunder
what you're saying is nerf its damage by like what 30%? then make it tankier
How are you trying to assign numbers to my statements? Lmao
mild thunder
a fair bit is like 10-15%
scarlet flame
30% is nerfing its damage from god tier to balanced
mild thunder
And gutting our burst
scarlet flame
10-15% isn't goign to change it from god tier damage
damage being gutted is 20-30% from what they've done in the past
mild thunder
30% is nerfing its damage from god tier to balanced
No…
scarlet flame
every class that does insane damage gets nerfed by 20-30%
mild thunder
If arms took 30% dmg nerfs across the board right now, you think our damage would still be good?
scarlet flame
thats like acting like a 3% damage nerf is going to do anything to any class lmao
no i dont think it would be good
i heavily disagree with your point of nerfing damage and being tankier because it invalidates the point of being a warrior to me
mild thunder
Bro can you at least get what you want to say in order before interrupting
scarlet flame
are you retarded?
mild thunder
are you retarded?
Reading your messages is making me feel like it
scarlet flame
right, i forgot you want to play prot
mild thunder
Idk if you’re embedding a fucking chromosome extractor into your messages or what, but everyone is dumber for reading it
scarlet flame
sorry i read "nerf damage be tank" and i got autistic
mild thunder
I can tell
scarlet flame
rubbed off you my bad 🙂
mild thunder
But maybe you should try and hold more than one definition of “tank” in your peabrain
scarlet flame
you want to be tanky on a melee dps class
mild thunder
Yes
scarlet flame
omegalul
scarlet flame
all classes are damage bots in your opinion
mild thunder
Wow, you actually are functionally retarded
mild thunder
It’s always the gnome players… did you pick that race bedside you identify with their small brains?
scarlet flame
i dont even play gnome
its a profile pic lmao
i dont base my opinions off your stupid anime profile pic
i base it off saying nerf damage buff tank on a class that does 1 thing
mild thunder
No, you base it off the things you imagined I said
mild thunder
i base it off saying nerf damage buff tank on a class that does 1 thing
Bro how does arms do one thing
scarlet flame
oh sorry its a setup cc class
mild thunder
What one thing do you think arms does?
scarlet flame
damage
mild thunder
Bruh
scarlet flame
what multi layered class are you playing rn
elfin surge
mild thunder
You don’t think arms has some of the best utility in the game right now? You don’t think we’re already one of the tankier melee specs?
You don’t think we’re incredibly good at keeping teammates alive and extending games?
scarlet flame
you think it has better utility than ret?
mild thunder
What about mobility?
mild thunder
Go play ret and talk about their off-healing
scarlet flame
next patch cope
elfin surge
yesterday i got tilted in solo shuffle, it was my first time. I now quit wow
mild thunder
Maybe you can only do one thing as arms, but that’s a you problem
scarlet flame
your mental health has already improved
mild thunder
Wizard lobbies are winnable I swear 
mild thunder
Are you still r1 arms?
mild thunder
Rip bozo
If there was a trial of style ladder, I’d be r1
Crimson Stylist title when
elfin surge
yo
wispy cedar
ignore Scooberz
wispy cedar
Be gone fell creature
full quiver
apologize or else
wispy cedar
limber relic
is WMD or WMP best?
feels like priest is not enough healing to keep a mage health up enough
green anchor
grand scaffold
grats mol
grand scaffold
always good help from you <:detective:912341312907378689>
😄
thanks man glad it worked
lemme know if you need more
stark agate
WMD imo
wooden grove
i know its not much, but i worked a bit for it, thank you Skyhold gg
Despite what others may say, that is definitely an achievement.
Good for you
scarlet flame
yeah gz, achieving goals is great dont let other people make it feel like less
quaint snow
This morning i woke up to the message from my best friend, his son is born this night and so i am officially godfather from now on. And i already knew i was gonna push 2.1 today. Double Win 💪
grand scaffold
This morning i woke up to the message from my best friend, his son is born this ...
daaaang
grats man!
spice hornet
new tier sets lookin dope
spice hornet
shuffle is so rng
i feel like the shuffle rng has a bigger impact on warriors
some lobbies you can get legit cucked so effing hard
meanwhile a rogue or WW prob does well with almost everything
and dk
grand scaffold
bro the trick to warrior
in solo shuffle
is get an alt
see how ques are
and decide whether or not ques are horrid
yo
is the new ring gonna be good for pvp?
grand scaffold
what kind of rng dmg does it do
muted surge
Like fire dot and shit like that
grand scaffold
oh
grand scaffold
but not for arms/fury
muted surge
low pasture
@elfin surge So this is your house huh?
muted surge
Well they got buffed
low pasture
Nice place
grand scaffold
what house?
quaint snow
warrior has no changes in patch tmrw or?
low pasture
Maybe...
swift folio
warrior has no changes in patch tmrw or?
Fatality stacks only go to 8 on PvP
grand scaffold
you 2300 on arcane mage right?
low pasture
(Yes you do)
grand scaffold
yeah i thought so
low pasture
you 2300 on arcane mage right?
On Holy, but I think it was 2k on Arcane
low pasture
I'm not very good at DPS
grand scaffold
been a while
low pasture
You're way ahead of me then
grand scaffold
eh
low pasture
I wish I hadn't sat on queuing for 2 months
grand scaffold
i did play 2k rounds of solo shuffle
low pasture
Think I'm somewhere between 400-500 on Priest and 300 on Mage
grand scaffold
all g
low pasture
And like 100 on Feral because I don't like how braindead it plays right now
low pasture
Just shy of 1800 atm after getting to 1950
grand scaffold
thats not bad at all
low pasture
Planning on playing it today when servers reopen because of Holy changes
low pasture
6-8% buffs on various healing spells and buffs to Lightwell and Divine Image.
You can summon an army of Naaru now 😛
low pasture
They cast similar versions of whatever spells you use on the target.
So basically duplicates of yourself
low pasture
Before it was a chance to summon them but they bumped it to 100% chance when you use a Holy Word spell now
low pasture
It won't heal on its own, it just casts a similar spell to what you use, like if you use a single target heal it uses a single target heal, single target DPS will make it use its single target DPS spell, Renew makes it also Renew your target for 6 secs, AoE makes it AoE too
The HoT it does for some reason is giga powerful
grand scaffold
can it cast mindgames?
low pasture
No
grand scaffold
dang
low pasture
I'll grab the list of spells
low pasture
Yeah it does
low pasture
Each Image casts 1 spell at a time and they duplicate
low pasture
Just as long as Fury stays dead pls
grand scaffold
is fury getting buffed?
low pasture
Hope not
grand scaffold
bro
i hope it never gets buffed
fury meta so cringy
as much as i like the spec
low pasture
It's so awful to play against
grand scaffold
yeah
low pasture
Makes Havoc DH look intelligent
grand scaffold
😂
low pasture
I still think Disc will be stronger overall but it's likely to be much closer now.
grand scaffold
thats neat
low pasture
Which means lots of lobbies with both Priest healing specs 😛
It's surprising how often I face lobbies with either both Warrior specs or both ranged Hunter specs in them
Or both DKs
grand scaffold
bro
huntards
so annoying
especially marksman hunters
they crank too hard if you dont focus them
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> So this is your house huh?
wrong cord moron
low pasture
A bunch of us started playing a Missile build for Arcane just because we face Hunters all the time.
low pasture
wrong cord moron
One is just your summer home bro
low pasture
He's rich
grand scaffold
from what
elfin surge
the mud cord is my home
low pasture
Stealing from Mages
low pasture
Also, what's your address Mud?
grand scaffold
😂
elfin surge
low pasture
kek
grand scaffold
when they gunna show the current r1 cutoffs
i dont know man
ive been wondering for so long
and they arent showing it
low pasture
Just show it on the last day of the season for laughs
sharp meteor
when they gunna show the current r1 cutoffs
do they usually hide them until late, i don't remember
sharp meteor
i thought they showed them early yeah
grand scaffold
this is not normal behavior from blizzard
sharp meteor
because i'd look at r1 cutoff then x5 them for old glad cutoff
grand scaffold
its bizzare
sharp meteor
maybe whenever they give us a 10.1 date?
idk why they wouldn't show them now
it's not like it's week 2 with fucked up cutoffs at like 2k mmr
grand scaffold
dude idk
and why are they inflating shuffle
dumb shit
like people are at 3400
low pasture
NA servers up
low pasture
Guess they finished it early this time
grand scaffold
lol
low pasture
Pog nu Blizzard
grand scaffold
thats crazy
woeful solstice
aight lads we getting the ring or what
spice hornet
They been overestimating maintenance lately
Looks better to get it online earlier than to push it later people get pissed
grand scaffold
aight lads we getting the ring or what
how do you even get it
low pasture
Questing in the new zone I think
limber relic
the ring works in pvp?
elfin surge
grand scaffold
what dose that mean
spice hornet
Nice
grand scaffold
does that mean top 100 players of each spec?
low pasture
Oh that's smart
elfin surge
that means
spice hornet
That’s just an example
elfin surge
mud cant take all 30 warrior spots
grand scaffold
but in pvp its usually first few weeks of season
spice hornet
Yeah they can’t give formal numbers until after because it will shift until nobody can queue anymore
They can only estimate
They can say right now for arms warrior ladder everyone above 3350 will get the title or sometbing but that can change
grand scaffold
They can say right now for arms warrior ladder everyone above 3350 will get the ...
but its % based
top 0.1% of each spec
spice hornet
Or ladder position 103
grand scaffold
so like they can easily figure that out
which is why im confused
why they havent announced it
spice hornet
Yeah they probably could but don’t want to yet
quaint snow
i mean
grand scaffold
thats rough
quaint snow
xD
sharp meteor
mud petkick and dorito targeted change
quaint snow
yeah i think hes the winner hahaha
elfin surge
mud petkick and dorito targeted change
just means i can push the limits even more
