pvp

[limber relic]

whata dilemma

but

nothing is worse than destro+frostmage

tbh

[grand scaffold]

eh

frostmage elemental

maybe

[limber relic]

ah yea

[grand scaffold]

both are shitty tbh

what kind of competition is this

😂

[limber relic]

ele is stupid af tbh

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[limber relic]

worst class design

ever

[grand scaffold]

yeah

unstoppable caster dmg

[limber relic]

yea like

literally 0 casts

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its daft

[limber relic]

except storm keeper

[grand scaffold]

lmao

and hex

oooOoooOh caster with 2 casts

[limber relic]

xd

and ppl go

"warr is just 123"

[grand scaffold]

nerf warr

buff ele

hahaha

[limber relic]

XD

[grand scaffold]

skillcapped said the dumbest shit ever the other day

they said

we feel elemental isnt in s tier as it has fallen out of the meta

what the fuck

[limber relic]

hahahahahaha

i mean

in a good enough team

they will shred

like fmage ele

destro ele

[grand scaffold]

they will shred in solo shuffle lmao

i had fire mage

they are the worst

worse than frost even

[limber relic]

fmage=frost

myb

xd

[grand scaffold]

oh ok

[limber relic]

fire mage is trash

frost mage ele

destro ele

sp ele is so so

[grand scaffold]

sp destro

🤢

[limber relic]

yeah i mean

shadowplay is disgusting

[grand scaffold]

bro the worst one is sp boomy

not only are both hard to kill

you go sp boomy shreds

you go boomy sp shreds

its duuuuuuuumb

run out of mobility going boomy

psyfiend kills you

[limber relic]

XD

imagine ppl said

in the begining of the xpack

"melee season"

[high star]

zandalar map + double caster is suicide watch games

[limber relic]

magambe?

[high star]

ye shambala or w/e

[grand scaffold]

LMAO

bro the worst

is bladesedge

[limber relic]

next season its even worse for melee

[grand scaffold]

with hunters and mages

[limber relic]

yea

its too narrow

and they just jump down

and then up

altar

[grand scaffold]

bruh forget that

explosive trap and blast wave

you knocked off all game

[limber relic]

i mean

[grand scaffold]

then hunter steel traps you down there

[limber relic]

i dont have a problem with that ngl

[grand scaffold]

its disgusting

[limber relic]

when i get pushed

[grand scaffold]

0_0

[limber relic]

i leap in the air

back up

ez

[grand scaffold]

true

but sometimes leap on cd from running away

[limber relic]

9/10 times it works

the 1 time

its on cd

and i have 2 walk

XD

im just glad im done with solo shit q for now

might try for r1 after i try for glad

[grand scaffold]

im probably not pushing for glad tbh

i dont know people that play consistantly enough

im just gonna try and force my way into r1

[limber relic]

i really

want

the mount

so bad

[sharp meteor]

it does look pretty great

[thick reef]

LMAO fr

[wanton sun]

what's the rotation for bleed build? just make sure you have rend up and then CS > avatar > dragon's roar?

[sharp meteor]

same but keep rend up

[wanton sun]

do you hold thunderous roar for the next avatar or just send it on cd after the opener?

[dark sparrow]

Man just played 2 shuffles as destro, that spec is so fkn fun to play it’s disgusting

[wheat jay]

We lost another one

[woeful solstice]

F

[dark sparrow]

Nah, just a 4fun alt to de-tilt lmao

Actual question, what’s looking like the best healer for retwarr after reset? Still evoker?

[mild thunder]

disc

still gonna be the strongest healer, maybe even stronger than it already is

they're basically getting spirit link and greater fade

[junior ledge]

Hey guys looking to get into pvp. On my warrior. Whats recomended arms or fury. Is one better. Do they both have theyre roles. I main prot in pve but im looking to farm out a few more saddles this patch. Idk much about warrior pvp right now but ive loved it in the past. Good place right now or should i gear up my hunter or dh

Id probably be doing solo shuffle id i dont find an rbg team

[wheat jay]

Bm Hunter strong

Arms warrior strong

Fury warrior not so much, but still good

[quick carbon]

rsham looks rlly good too

[mild thunder]

Yea maybe, just gets tunnelled really hard. And disc now just has spirit link, soooo

[green lintel]

How do you even play against full caster lobby as arms?

every lobby has 3 casters everytime

its pain

[mild thunder]

Balls to the wall, give them no chance

Or extremely carefully, guerrilla style

[green lintel]

so only go out when u have a go?

[mild thunder]

Not that careful

[green lintel]

Well im getting perma rooted by mages and hunters and can never get to them lol

[wheat jay]

That's life of warrior

You hit whatever is close

People rly forgot that arms is the OG cleave spec

You hit all targets

Be it with sweeping strikes, rend, or just hitting whatever you can at all times

Sometimes if you get kited hard you swap to what's close to you, then swap back when you have mobility off cd

[quick carbon]

youd be suprised how easy u can snowball pressure as warrior

by hitting anything infront of u

[mild thunder]

yup, all that ^

dont chase if there's something else to hit

generally

[wooden grove]

Try not to los your healer

[green lintel]

Ty ❤️

Btw why the hell did i just que into a DH with 800 rating vs full 2.2k rated in solo shuffle

What is this matchmaking xD

[wheat jay]

Maybe he's abusing mmr like Mud

@elfin surge stop cheating

[elfin surge]

keks

[sharp meteor]

Double Warlock.

[green lintel]

Buggin is poppin

[mild thunder]

shockwave chad confirmed

[sharp meteor]

Might as well have it bound.

[wheat jay]

Mud doing what warrior should be doing at all times

Slamming

[mild thunder]

ms is for totems

slam is for players

[thick reef]

Real men TBC slamweave w/o add-ons in PvP

[wheat jay]

Slammin' dat ass

As god intended

[mortal fox]

is it worth using bracer and belt from warmode for the set bonus?

[mild thunder]

amen

[sharp meteor]

It isn't active.

[green lintel]

Lmk when pvp is good again

[wheat jay]

Cya in riot mmo

Hopefully

When it comes out

In like 2040

[mild thunder]

assuming it comes out at all

[wheat jay]

Ye ye that too

[green lintel]

It will be glorious

Time to smash my head in league

[wheat jay]

Just give me sth like lost ark, but 3rd person

Would be nice

[green lintel]

Lost ark was actually really good in the first 1-2 months

[wheat jay]

I mean

I'm still playing it

Zero pvp tho

I hate it there xD

New big thing will maybe be diablo 2 remaster

Sorry, diablo 4

[green lintel]

I quit after 3 months... giga predatory endgame systems, however Raids are a fucking banger

[wheat jay]

Predatory you say

Have you played bfa and legion ?

[green lintel]

I was a giga Bfa enjoyer

[wheat jay]

Oof

[green lintel]

My first expansion tho

[wheat jay]

Sadge for you

My 2nd

And man it was shit to play

But the raids were great

Systems sucked ass beyond human reasoning

[green lintel]

i liked, but maybe cuz i am a onetrick only

only play one character

[wheat jay]

I was too

It was bad to have to grind all that shit, pray for rng, do daily and weekly invasions

Having to wait 6 months to have full corruption resistance

And then praying again that you get best azerite traits on gear

And best corruption Rolls

And best other shit

Was bad

[green lintel]

I have really nothing to progress on my character right now, so i am quite bored. At least in BFA you could always grind to make ur character better aha

[wheat jay]

I had all the best and bis stuff but objectively it was bad and predatory

Now you need gear and skill

[green lintel]

Again BFA is just pure nostalgia for me

[wheat jay]

Which is imho better

Ye fair enough

Bfa raids, especially nyalotha were good

Nyalotha imo was fucjing amazing, except 2 bosses xD

Tentacle spam and skitra

[green lintel]

Well I am 8/8M, 3k raiderio and 2.1k in pvp

so there isnt really

any character progression for me

which is why i play the game

[wheat jay]

Fair enough

Lol

I can't play raids cuz of work

So im bench, got spider down tho

Guild is almost 7/8

[green lintel]

Sure you can always try to push rank 1 pvp, rank 1 io or push logs

[green lintel]

we are like top 270 or smthing

[mild thunder]

ya

but with oce servers

pls

[green lintel]

OCE

[mild thunder]

wow is literally the only option

or ff14, but im not a fucking degenerate

[green lintel]

True, need a good mmo to play when wow is boring

[sage raptor]

I tried ESO but there were no slut mogs

And the pvp is really weird

[mild thunder]

gw2 is an awesome game

but no oce server

[wanton sun]

For arms do you save thunderous roar for every avatar go?

[wheat jay]

Best game for break from wow

[green lintel]

Valheim may not be a mmo game, but good time killer

[junior ledge]

its my go to

valhiem

[mild thunder]

the weapon/talent system is super cool

[rigid verge]

Can someone confirm if this talent actually works? My speed dosen't change on the characters sheet after speccing in or out of it

[elfin surge]

Movement speed =/= speed stat

it does work

wont show in stats

[sharp meteor]

There's different types of movement speed increase as Mud says.

At last check it functions as you'd expect it to, though.

[rigid verge]

Ah thank you!

[rigid verge]

i see, ty bruh

[wanton sun]

if im playing bleed build where should rend be at in my overall damage breakdown? Its pretty low on my most recent lobby but the games were pretty short

[serene kite]

You’re mortal strike build regardless of “bleed” or not

[sharp zenith]

New to pvp... is Arms the preferred spec for pvp as a warrior?

[serene kite]

Yep

Though fury isn’t totally useless like it used to be in prior expac

[sharp zenith]

yeah i thought i remembered fury being bad before, but glad to see it is more viable now in pvp

[serene kite]

It was actually king at the start but Arms made its triumphant return

now, fury is inferior in every way outside of self sustain and simplicity

Still not bad though

[sharp zenith]

ok got it, thanks

[rotund trellis]

a random 4-2 brings me back to 1500 and something

[mild thunder]

fatal mark doesnt need nerfs guys, i swear

[sharp meteor]

Haha chop

[rotund trellis]

[swift folio]

and thats without the execute dmg

[mild thunder]

it was about 160k with exe

no CDs up

[lean burrow]

is it 8 stacks?

[mild thunder]

that was probs like 20 stacks

idk

[lean burrow]

20 stacks

holy shiet, it's nerfed to dirt

[mild thunder]

nah idk how many stacks it was

100k

probs like

15

TL;DR fatality op, nerfs mean jackshit

[swift folio]

isnt 1 stack ~9k ?

you dont even get to more than 8 stacks most games anyway

[torpid roost]

Double healer warrior +banking on fatality inside of cooldowns and dampening

New meta

[spark zenith]

Lads, am I trolling if I have 20 crit, 20 haste for solos in bleed/bladestorm build (no splitter)?

[mild thunder]

No

[spark zenith]

Ppl telling me i should go full crit

[sharp meteor]

Now that sounds troll.

[mild thunder]

who told you that?

[quick carbon]

I’m a full crit Stan

haste is for the weak

[mild thunder]

im a full mastery stan

just crit anyway

dont need faster globals if you kill them in 1

[grand scaffold]

no

that is literally the best stats

[grand scaffold]

i bet it was this guy

[spark zenith]

For solos tho

[grand scaffold]

well nobody plays anything else

[spark zenith]

Tru

[grand scaffold]

20% haste 20% crit ftw

[quick carbon]

im legit

10% haste

in pvp

and idc

this is the way

[spark zenith]

What build tho

[quick carbon]

both builds

my goal is to get the biggest numbers as often as possible

[mild thunder]

liar

if that was your goal, you'd be full mastery

[quick carbon]

mastery boring

i like when the numbers POP

[mild thunder]

mastery = biggest numbers

[quick carbon]

on my screen

how ab u go master ur rizz

[mild thunder]

i am

the rizzler

the rizzly bear

[quick carbon]

i get

33% crit

when 4pc procs

so pog

[mild thunder]

i get like 27%

[grand scaffold]

i get 25%

when 4pc procs

[mild thunder]

but yea anyway - there is literally no "bis" stat distribution, everything anyone says is preference. just avoid mastery, find what % haste/crit feels right

[grand scaffold]

but like tbh

20% haste 20% crit

REALLY GOOD

[mild thunder]

it's one way to go, that's it

it's not best, it's not worst, it's one preference

[quick carbon]

u can legit play mastery

and be fine

cuz warriors broken

[mild thunder]

true

[grand scaffold]

try it

😂

[spark zenith]

I'll try my 20 crit 20 haste 32 vers build

Cheers

[quick carbon]

now this

is an execute

so alpha

does so much damage

[mystic prairie]

then use more and less

[quick carbon]

execute more alpha

[grand scaffold]

bruh just let this guy enjoy his daily execute crit

😂

[quick carbon]

u mean

every game

my executes r just built diff entirely

[undone pumice]

u are bald

@quick carbon

[quick carbon]

im baldiing

not bald

[mystic prairie]

[quick carbon]

execute haters bro

[nimble forge]

is the spear build average better then this sks bleed build? or is it just more pressure in cd windows?

[undone pumice]

u are fully bald@quick carbon

mmm smooth as a baby's buttcheeks your head is

🐎

[mild thunder]

[grand scaffold]

yo

is warbringer getting nerfed and rebound buffed on teusday?

or is that 10.1

[swift folio]

the only patch note for warrior is the fatality stacks are maxed at 8 in pvp

for 10.7

[mild thunder]

that's 10.1

[tawny brook]

I can’t wait for that rebound change

Disarm is pretty effective against casters as well isnt it

[mild thunder]

what

[tawny brook]

It lowers their damage right

LOL dang should I use banner instead vs casters?

[mild thunder]

you should use literally anything instead

[tawny brook]

Instead of disarm or instead of banner

Do you all use shattering throw ever?

[mild thunder]

nope

[grand scaffold]

-_-

[grand scaffold]

not really

sometimes into mages

or vs ret paladin

aside from that no

[idle falcon]

every game i get into as arms

if they focus me = insta loss

ffs

[lean burrow]

dstance if you are off stun dr

[idle falcon]

im actually pissed

was 1664

almost got full red set

went down to 1300

went up to 1460

went down to 1400

[grand scaffold]

are you playing spear?

[idle falcon]

yeah

is there another build i should be playing?

[grand scaffold]

roar build is like 40x better

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERCJJpUKJBAAAAEEJCkAERjSSSSSoIRIBARCAAAAAAAAJpkgAANEA

[idle falcon]

rotation?

[grand scaffold]

its the same thing as spear

just maintain rend

burst is sweeping strikes rend cs roar mortal strike avatar

[dark sparrow]

Nah I disagree, spear is so much better than roar for shuffle if you actually know how to play it

[grand scaffold]

what

[swift folio]

In low ratings you can easily one shot people with spear

[idle falcon]

im tryna reach 1800

[grand scaffold]

yeah high rating tho spear aint going anywhere

[dark sparrow]

It’s the @elfin surge way

[grand scaffold]

unless you are mud

[dark sparrow]

As I said, if you know how to play it

[idle falcon]

i just spear + collosal + bladestorm

[swift folio]

I got to 1800 with spear but now people start to know how to deal with it

[grand scaffold]

dude dont play spear trust me

just go roar

[idle falcon]

but roar build has too many buttons ;-;

[swift folio]

No?

[grand scaffold]

bro its 1 more button

rend

[swift folio]

Just because rend?

[dark sparrow]

I mean that’s fine, than use it as a cd baiter and just destroy them on next cs avatar

[grand scaffold]

and spear plays rend anyway

[idle falcon]

i dont use wrecking throw in spear build

[swift folio]

You should always have one of the throws

[dark sparrow]

Nog playing wreck into logs is giga troll tho

[grand scaffold]

why

its so good

[idle falcon]

can u link spear build

idk

[swift folio]

Its on the pins

[dark sparrow]

Nah, you should never player shatter

[grand scaffold]

you mean locks?

[swift folio]

Was shatter the immunity removal ?

[dark sparrow]

Yea whoops, autocorrect on phone

[dark sparrow]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

bro

you trolling if you arent playing wrecking throw into locks

[dark sparrow]

Yea that’s what I said. But never play shatter

[swift folio]

Deleting lock shield with 1 button is amazing

[dark sparrow]

That and it’s a free button to press when your trying to connect

[idle falcon]

no ur amazing

[swift folio]

Idk if im slow but the cast time on shattering is long enough for the people to heal back up to full anyway

[grand scaffold]

yeah but you can hit them again

[swift folio]

Should you use it preemptively?

[grand scaffold]

its better than them being immune for 8 sec

no

[idle falcon]

zug zug brain

[dark sparrow]

Not even just heal, but just get away etc. Much better to just tab to other target

Nah shatter is dog, never use

[swift folio]

If you fight against pala/hunter you'll regret not having it

[idle falcon]

what do you guys use as pvp talents

[hardy mulch]

It breaks turtle?

[dark sparrow]

Look at me I’m trying to shatter for an eternity, oh no you ran around pillar welp guess I wasted 6s of my pressure kek

[idle falcon]

sharpen blade + storm of destruction + what

[grand scaffold]

sharpen warbringer warbanner

not storm of destruction

[dark sparrow]

Nope

[hardy mulch]

Why is it good against hunter?

[idle falcon]

warbanner? 😳

[swift folio]

Never seen banner in low ranks

[grand scaffold]

warbanner is too good

-50% cc

[idle falcon]

yeah but they can kill it

[grand scaffold]

so

you can also kill spirit link totem

its still awesome

[swift folio]

You can also kill the totems from shaman and they still use them

[idle falcon]

wouldn't maybe rebound or master and commander be better?

[grand scaffold]

^

no

[hardy mulch]

But they have to kill it, giving your team more time

[grand scaffold]

^

or if they dont kill it they have no pressure

it works in literally everygame

[idle falcon]

first season pvp i've ever player so im kinda new to this

:P

[grand scaffold]

all g

[idle falcon]

bro i have a cold and now my throat hurts even more from raging in PvP XD

[grand scaffold]

😂

sorry man

[idle falcon]

had covid last week

got better for 2 days

now i feel even worse than last week

and its not covid

[swift folio]

That's what PvP does to you

[idle falcon]

2 weeks from uni missed

2 assignments 4 quizez

[hardy mulch]

Do people make use of shields and related abilities these days?

Since they added them baseline in shadowlands or something

[grand scaffold]

nope

if you want to you can

its actually not a bad idea

just a lot of work

also it takes up like 3-4 more keybinds

which who tf has

[hardy mulch]

Would it be worth it in terms of damage reduction? Can you block something valuable with shield block?

[grand scaffold]

tbh i wouldnt bother doing shield swapping

you need a macro for shield swapping

then 2 macros for shield slam and shield block because you cant mortal strike with a 1h or shield

and a macro to go back to a 2h

[hardy mulch]

I slapped equipping one hands with a shield, casting shield block and shield slam for good measure in one macro.

[grand scaffold]

ok

so 3 keybinds

[hardy mulch]

And added equipping two hand into MS

Since it requires two hand anyway

So basically one extra bind

[grand scaffold]

you still need shield slam

and shield block

thats 3 keybinds

[hardy mulch]

You can macro them even if they're on GCD, it's not like you're gonna use them several times on cd

[grand scaffold]

idk not worth it tbh

if you want to you can try it

[hardy mulch]

Likely wanna swap back asap to so dam

[grand scaffold]

i wouldnt tho

eh idk man'

[hardy mulch]

I remember shield being a valuable part of warrior pvp toolkit in the past. Then it was gone and came back again.

[grand scaffold]

its a lot of work imo

and i dont see r1's doing it

[hardy mulch]

It's definitely not as useful as in wotlk or something

But is it any useful at all, that's what i was thinking about

[grand scaffold]

not that you shouldnt do it tho its defo an advantage but unnecessary

if you have a way of swapping between bar 1 and bar 2 to add space for shield block and shield slam maybe

like macro for this thing

[hardy mulch]

Weapon swapping is rather annoying tbh

In general

[grand scaffold]

yeah

not worth it imo

[mild thunder]

bro how do you have too many keybinds as a warrior

we have like

[hardy mulch]

It doesn't seem to happen instantly as you press it

[mild thunder]

2 buttons

[hardy mulch]

Charge bladestorm

[grand scaffold]

i ran out of comfortable buttons to press

[hardy mulch]

How do you press K?

Mid fight

[grand scaffold]

thats my 3rd mouse button

[hardy mulch]

Ah ok

Thought we're dealing with a piano player or something 😄

[grand scaffold]

😂

[hardy mulch]

I've met a guy who had alt+5 bound. He said he's comfortable with that, but I'm still questioning how is that possible

[grand scaffold]

wtf

thats like playing twister with your thumb

😂

[hardy mulch]

That's a mystery

[hardy mulch]

Is slam not a button people press btw?

[grand scaffold]

i dont have it bound to bars

😂

its useless

rend does more initial dmg than rend

and applies a dot

slam legit useless

in 10.1 its gonna be awesome

but not how

now*

now its useless af

[tawny brook]

Are the crit nerfs going to hurt arms more than classes that prioritize haste or mastery?

[lean burrow]

imagine being fire mage

[grand scaffold]

😂

or a frost mage

😂

OR DESTRO

hahahha

[undone pumice]

dawg thats chill

u know whats cursed

shift+control

[grand scaffold]

forget that

right control

😂

[undone pumice]

[mild thunder]

kinda, but it's not really a big deal - arms gets a lot of value from haste anyway, and our 2pc starts to make up for the lost crit dmg

[grand scaffold]

do you think its gonna go back to bfa where people went haste > mastery

[mild thunder]

mastery was actually a good stat in bfa, it's completely different now... if it increased our bleeds, maybe

it'll just be haste>crit, if any change at all

[grand scaffold]

really?

bummer

[mild thunder]

mastery is boring, why would anyone wanna stack it

[grand scaffold]

big hits

i miss bfa mastery

huge deep wounds dmg

[mild thunder]

it's an invisible stat increase... doesn't increase our burst frequency like crit, doesnt smoothen our rotation like haste

dull

the 4pc also incentivises both crit and haste, so mastery falls even further behind than it is now

[grand scaffold]

what does 4pc do

[mild thunder]

you've read it before

[grand scaffold]

i forgot

lmao

i just remember one of them makes deep wounds make slam hit harder by 25%

fury 4 set looks great

[swift folio]

is there any tell on when you should use warbanner and does it decrese the cc of people who are currently in cc ?

[grand scaffold]

only incoming cc

[swift folio]

also is it even worth to switch disarm for it when you fight 2 melees ?

disarming a paladin when he pops wings is kinda satisfying

[grand scaffold]

why wouldnt you take disarm vs melee

you just drop warbringer

ez

[swift folio]

oh

your right

[mild thunder]

disarming paladins does next to nothing

[swift folio]

can they still use templars verdict ?

[mild thunder]

you can run it, but it's not particularly high value

they can use everything except crusader strike

[grand scaffold]

i disarm other things not paladin tho

[mild thunder]

technically they cant use JV, but they dont run JV into us anyway

[grand scaffold]

tf is jv

[mild thunder]

justicar's vengeance - main ret spender when versing non-phys dmg dealers

[grand scaffold]

oh that thing that heals them and hits really hard?

[mild thunder]

yea

[grand scaffold]

dont disarm ret, unholy dk, feral, ww or any caster

YOU CAN disarm an assa rogue

but eh

[swift folio]

casters ?

[mild thunder]

unholy is definitely worth disarming

as is any rogue spec

[grand scaffold]

you disarm unholy dk's?

why

it does nothing to their dmgh

pets and diseases

[mild thunder]

stops their self-healing, and stops their RP generation during burst so that they cant amp %str buff

[grand scaffold]

mud doesnt disarm uh dk

[mild thunder]

disarming ww is also not the worst thing in the world during serenity - stops FoF which they're usually popping every 5-6 seconds, doing a ton of dmg and parrying all of yours

not worth taking solely for ww, but if there's a ww/x and only the ww is bursting, you can disarm them

[mild thunder]

mud can suck my bawls

[grand scaffold]

bruh there is no real use running disarm vs uhdk unless you are focusing them

ngl

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/hector-hector-salamanca-the-boss-can-suck-me-better-call-saul-meme-gif-25528219

[grand scaffold]

so you admit mud the boss?

😂

[muted surge]

what does he know

[mild thunder]

you mispelled dekel

[lean burrow]

dks get full rp bar after they apocalypse

[grand scaffold]

😂

[mild thunder]

i dont think that's true

[grand scaffold]

running disarm into uhdk not worth it unless you are focusing them

it is 100% worth it vs frost dk tho

[mild thunder]

it is absolutely worth it - you usually lose extremely little by picking disarm instead of another pvp talent, and get multiple offensive/defensive uses out of it

[grand scaffold]

so if disarm doesnt stop uh dmg

and we dont run disarm into dh because that doesnt stop dmg

🤨

whats the point

[muted surge]

it stops self healing

thats the main point

[grand scaffold]

bruh

did any of you read what i said

[muted surge]

no

[grand scaffold]

.

https://tenor.com/view/reading-read-read-up-checking-taking-note-gif-15388141

[muted surge]

but uhk is a good focus target no?

[grand scaffold]

not all the time

[mild thunder]

dk cant gen RP while disarmed
dk cant stack %str buff
dk dmg is slowed down
dk cant pop fw debuff
slows down necro stacking
dk cant death strike

yea, totes not worth

[grand scaffold]

@elfin surge do you disarm into unholy dk?

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cringe-dies-from-cringe-meme-star-wars-meme-gif-22116997

[muted surge]

@neat robin

is that the real one

[neat robin]

wrong one

[muted surge]

doesnt matter, you gonna get pinged now

tell us

do you disam udk

[grand scaffold]

LMFAO

i knew you said that

[mild thunder]

bro why you stalking back to >1month old messages

[grand scaffold]

because thats the message that made me stop taking disarm into dk's

😂

[mild thunder]

literally

read the fuck down

[grand scaffold]

it works

[mild thunder]

from that message

jesus christ

if you're going to stalk back to >1month old messages to try and get a "gotcha", read the bloody context - that was literally the start of the conversation i had with QCP about uh dmg and why they're worth disarming

[grand scaffold]

bruh all i heard at that time was

doesnt stop dmg

was like all g

stopped running it

gained cr

aside from when focusing them

[lean burrow]

argue a small topic
month later change sides and argue the same topic again

[grand scaffold]

😂

[muted surge]

can you use storm lash without weapons

[grand scaffold]

whats storm lash

[muted surge]

or whatever the shaman ability is called

the stun channel

[grand scaffold]

lightning lasso?

yeah

[muted surge]

ye

[grand scaffold]

its a cast

not an attack

[muted surge]

sad

[grand scaffold]

:/

[mild thunder]

why tf would you disarm a shaman when they're channeling and not doing dmg

[elfin surge]

sometimes

[muted surge]

stopping the channel in the first place for burst :>

[grand scaffold]

if you arent focusing them?

[mild thunder]

OMGGGGGGGG NOT WORRTHHHH HURRRDURRR

[elfin surge]

bruh its actually insane how mmr inflations been added to shuffle

[muted surge]

is that a dig at ndogo

[elfin surge]

my alt disabled was 3250mmr and is now randomly 3400 after not playing it for months

[mild thunder]

what do you mean bro? 3.6k solo shuffle xp is so good for the game

[elfin surge]

was collecting mmr

while afk

kekw

[muted surge]

You guys are just mad that those who were held back by their team finally achieved rating they actually belong to

And now they are playing in the same league as the r1 plebs

[grand scaffold]

😂

[swift folio]

and then you run into hunters who only turtle on the enemy team in solo shuffle

[grand scaffold]

so @elfin surge if you against say dk caster and you are going for the caster you gonna take disarm?

[swift folio]

[elfin surge]

prob not idk depends what i want to do

[muted surge]

Do you go on the same target the whole game?

[elfin surge]

demo dk i like warbanner

if thats what ur asking

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[grand scaffold]

no but i save burst for that 1 person generally speaking

[hardy mulch]

Just disarm everyone. Lose weapon = lose stats. Big brain move.

[elfin surge]

[hardy mulch]

(if it still works like that)

[grand scaffold]

it does not

[mild thunder]

iirc it's like -20% mainstat from being disarmed

[grand scaffold]

:/

since when

[mild thunder]

havent tested since SL

[muted surge]

Do you lose the hp from the wep?

Or just flat main stat

[hardy mulch]

It definitely was like that long time ago

Not sure about now

[grand scaffold]

when tf are they gonna announce crimson legend rank requirement and r1 rank requirements

theres usually cutoffs by now

[muted surge]

Already?

Seasons still 2 months on

[grand scaffold]

i mean

yeah there should be cutoffs by now

like in sl that was the case

[elfin surge]

lol

usually cutoffs are shown third week of the ssn

and are updated almost daily

[grand scaffold]

yeah idk man idk how there arent cutoffs by now

[elfin surge]

i think theres prob

30 arms spots

for shuffle

[grand scaffold]

i think for arms its gonna be 18

idk tho

i hope its more

so i can get it

😂

[elfin surge]

lot of arms wars

3300 is rank 21

[grand scaffold]

dang

either way i hope there are a chunk of spots for crimson legend

would be cool to have the first legend title

[warped warren]

isnt r1 for 3s only?

[grand scaffold]

bruh r1 crimson legend mean same thing

but you are right

[elfin surge]

finally started pushing my wars in shuffle

[grand scaffold]

👍

[elfin surge]

[warped warren]

crimson legend budget glad

[grand scaffold]

no legend

[warped warren]

[amber vale]

Guys how easy to play warrior on an average level? Which one is easier in arena? What specc should i play in rbgs?

[lean burrow]

extremely easy, many warrior players are actually braindead, it's the perfect class

[amber vale]

Good to hear. Is fury viable in rbgs?

[lean burrow]

I don't know, I don't play rbgs

[amber vale]

Ok, thx anyway

[muted surge]

From the few I played recently I would say no

You want spike dmg and fast swaps

Don’t have time to build up your ms

[amber vale]

Thx

[elfin surge]

fury is pretty bad all around

[ebon pivot]

Fury can do okay in Rando BGs...you know where most people are PvE geared and running in circles smashing this shiniest button on their hot bar, then complaining about every class/spec but their from the spirit rezzer lol

[muted surge]

But who cares about random bgs

[ebon pivot]

no one

[warm portal]

Everybody who posts on the blizzard pvp forums

[polar marsh]

Bg best game mode

Kinda sad people made it a meme

Fast Q, lots of kills what’s not to love?

[muted surge]

That smashing alts and bots isn’t fun

[grand scaffold]

bruh

how long

till wow is up

sheesh

[sharp meteor]

Half hour. Subject to extension, etc.

[elfin surge]

why are servers down

what they doing

[dapper drum]

fitting

[thorn herald]

Trial of style you ready to get farmed?

[elfin surge]

[thorn herald]

servers up

q up poosy

[limber relic]

i mean im 3k

but

r 90

[elfin surge]

at work

[thorn herald]

[hot solstice]

I hate this game...every 3s loby is caster cleave....ele boomie frost mage....why even call it caster cleave when every spell is insta?????

average caster player:

https://tenor.com/view/bike-wojak-brainlet-dumb-gif-25774844

[lean burrow]

is legend title account-wide?

[muted surge]

But all your shit is insta as well

It’s just fair that casters have the same

[lean burrow]

it's not account-wide

[muted surge]

Ofc not

[hot solstice]

but I am not a caster to begin with...though I have to cast that shatter

[muted surge]

Who said they are

[grand scaffold]

who knows

ive been wondering the same thing

[frank knoll]

Are there actually Bots in random BGs

[muted surge]

Yes

Always were

[frank knoll]

Legit bots, not just a word for bad players

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[elfin surge]

This might be obvious to those who engage in pvp and pay attention, but warrior burst is significantly higher than that of a sub rogue (or any rogue spec).

All rogue specs represent the lowest forms of burst damage available besides healers and tanks.

[grand scaffold]

😂

if only

[grand scaffold]

😂

[solar grail]

can you disarm a warrior while they're bladestorming?

does it stop the bladestorm?

[mild pier]

no

[solar grail]

thank you kind sir

[elfin surge]

thats a wrath mechanic

[solar grail]

ahh thanks (:

[spice hornet]

4 times in a row i log on my affy, press q for shuffle, get a queue within 2mins, someone declines at 5/6, then back to waiting for 20+ min

unreal

[bleak quarry]

Sounds fun

Working as intented

[amber vale]

where can i find useful macros?

[grand scaffold]

what kind of macros are you looking for

i have 4 macros i use myself that i can send over

/cast [spec:1, nostance] Battle Stance; [spec:2, nostance] Berserker Stance; [spec:1, stance:1] Battle Stance; [spec:1, stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2, stance:1] Berserker Stance; [spec:2, stance:2] Defensive Stance

d stance macro ^

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

^ macros charge intervene and hamstring together

triggers what based off of mouseovers

#showtooltip
/castsequence [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
/castsequence [known:Spear of Bastion, @cursor] Spear of Bastion
/use 13

this is just for roar and spear and on use trinket

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Wrecking Throw] Wrecking Throw; Shattering Throw

swapps between wrecking and shattering throw

then ofc i have mouseover macros for heroic leap and spear

[amber vale]

thanks

[grand scaffold]

np

😄

[wheat jay]

Bad Mud

[edgy sinew]

hey is prot warriors any good for RBGs ? ?

[fickle forge]

Why is Mud stealing all my memes

[spice hornet]

Toxic Mid

[thick reef]

rude of u not to wait bruh

[wild phoenix]

Tbh. No. It's boring and annoying

Prot can be fun to fuck wjth people in 2s. You can solo a lot of common comps at low raiting

[edgy sinew]

ok thanks

[wild phoenix]

Just my 02. Others will have better opinions on it

But I've done it before. It's not a good time. In solo shuffle you're ignored and killed last, and there's nothing you can do about it due to a lack of pressure. At least in my experience

But I prefer the blue button of pain

[hard lynx]

do yall have a reasonable explanation for why most top warriors play roar instead of spear? im new to war but it seems like roar is pretty underwhelming on arms

[sharp meteor]

big dam with minimal counterplay

versus spear that gate rips off bop rips off gets domed gets deaths advanced etc

[green anchor]

it's not underwhelming unless you miss it lol

[sharp meteor]

roar on 2-3 people during cds is

yuge

[hard lynx]

aight ill roar harder

[green anchor]

tho most R1s I've heard saying that it's not better than spear, rather situational and also more about preference

[sharp meteor]

ya its the "i dont get good spear value here" pick

decent in general tho

[noble stream]

does fury use unique or duplicate enchants?

[bronze summit]

played with a evoker as a healer, havent played pvp in like 2 years and we still went 20W-7L. are evokers and warris a thing?

landed on 1.4k cr

BTW!

When do you play spear and when do you play roar?

or is it just pref?

[mild thunder]

In 2s?

[idle falcon]

Guys i got 2 chests from pvp right?

[random fractal]

rbgs is pretty bad, not the worst and is fairly tank and has good offensive power as well, in epic bgs you can be a bit of a demon with flag sitting and even in teamfighting for just soaking damage and doing good aoe dps

[idle falcon]

Each one of them got me a spark

[random fractal]

dragon charge is also one of the most fun pvp talents in the game

[sharp meteor]

Especially after you get the hang of cancelling it.

Just dootin' people off stuff left and right.

[elfin surge]

man

[mild thunder]

no one wants to play with you

[bronze summit]

so how do you win vs ferals spreading their aids in 2's

just got deleted by a full stack bleed, not sure if thats on healer or on me?

And yes defensives was used!
@mild thunder yeah in 2's

[sudden axle]

@elfin surge what's your 3 usual pvp talent choices when you face destro/frost mage in 3s or solo shuffle against that team. Frost mage priority I'm assuming?

[elfin surge]

Warbringer Sharpen Banner and I go destro usually

[fickle forge]

Demolition? 🤔

[elfin surge]

good too

[sudden axle]

Thanks boss 👌

[thick reef]

Push DID Racial

[fickle forge]

Inferior beta dwarves

Paying race change to live slightly better vs that 1 meta spec

😎👍

[thick reef]

Yeah, I hate it too

BI really should just take bleeds off too

Fucking Blizzard

[wheat jay]

Do I swap to kultiran?

For powerbelly?

[thick reef]

Kultir looks like it takes weeks to get. I don’t have it in me.

Getting DI dwarf was too much 😅 would be so much easier if you could fly in bfa without a month long grind. Stupid blizz

[copper hare]

ugliest race by far

[wheat jay]

Ok but powerbelly

[copper hare]

typical americans

hey hey just a joke

[little lava]

solo shuffles after swaping from useless spear to roar

feels good

[thick reef]

Someone didn't read 10.1 news

[copper hare]

yeah spear is insanely dog

I feel like it's only nice into frost mages

[little lava]

bro, nearly every class can get out of it

and its easy to pop def cds

[steep inlet]

Always said it

[little lava]

when u see fucking spear

[steep inlet]

Fuck Spear

[little lava]

spear is fine if u face turbo with fistweaver and they tunnel ur healer

[steep inlet]

Dogshit spell

[thick reef]

I didn’t, must be good news?

Removing the flight requirements for BfA areas

Since Blizz is making some BfA dungeons Mythic+

Thank god. That was so stupid. Maybe i’ll do the rest now. 10.1 still feels like forever away though

Hopefully they make raids legacy too so they’re soloable.

[wheat jay]

I'm european

[copper hare]

I mean kultirans

because belly

[wheat jay]

Still, I'd have a hunter kultiran

With big belly

[sharp meteor]

It's quite useless into so many things.

[mild thunder]

someone didn't read the 10.0.7 news

[thick reef]

Clearly, what did I miss

[mild thunder]

bfa flying requirements are removed tomorrow, not 10.1

[thick reef]

Oh shit, thought it was 10.1

Feelsgoodman

[spice hornet]

Mage misses his ring of frost.

Knocks you in with blast wave

[mild thunder]

why the fuck is your pfp always different

[indigo barn]

Punch people into trap

[sage raptor]

You're a peein

[sage raptor]

He changes his pfp like a girl changes clothes

[icy bridge]

Reasons to be a Kultiran: Become Chef Boyardee

Powerfist + CC people off the ledge in Blades Edge Arena and Mugambala

and ultimate history teacher look

[mild thunder]

are there conq boxes coming tomorrow or not

[quick carbon]

how do u guys feel ab

the 5% dam on pummel

talent

i kinda like it no cap

[tawny brook]

What pvp talents do you all use against casters?

[quick carbon]

usually banner sharpen and warbringer

kekw

[tawny brook]

I shouldve added “instead of disarm” lol

Yea banner was what I was thinking

I can’t wait for the buffed rebound

[quick carbon]

rebound is

bad

i promise its bad

short bladestorm will prob be better

2m rally could b better

[mild thunder]

pre good ngl... idk why anyone would take honed reflexes over it

[quick carbon]

i dont play that

[mild thunder]

honed reflexes is just

bad

kicking on CD feels pre rare

and the 1s off OP actually does almost nothing

[quick carbon]

whats rlly bad is

ever playing not ddamage pvp talents

war banner is aa damage talent

banner the cc for urself so u caan hit them faster

bannering for ur healer is lame

banner for uptime

B)

[mild thunder]

i only banner disarms

[quick carbon]

deadass

[near delta]

Makes it slightly harder for casters to track your kick

[mild thunder]

eh

5% talent does that too

[quick carbon]

concussive blows

does the same

[mild thunder]

but is just better

[quick carbon]

thing

[mild thunder]

i pre much never take honed reflex

[quick carbon]

boys im not gonna lie

i feel like a fucking moron rn

i havent been using warrior tremor totem talent vs priests/other warriors