im not saying it wont dfo well
#pvp
grand scaffold
green lintel
Remember my name 😄
grand scaffold
i just doubt its killing off wow
stable siren
ah yes the legendary riot games, the one who recently had there lead designer resign and delay there other games.
green lintel
Ohh god the 
violet fossil
riot mmo lol
green lintel
just pointed out that it beat wow at one point
violet fossil
the only thing beating wow is wow
stable siren
And even then
green lintel
stable siren
Cant wait to pass down my wow account to my children as a heirloom only for them to sell it for cypto
mashallah
violet fossil
were you a new world person
green lintel
wow already killed itself 
green lintel
were you a new world person
Nah i am a wow enjoyer
played new world for 40 minutes
then refunded it
violet fossil
gonna refund riot mmo too
green lintel
Its free lol
violet fossil
Yeah gonna refund it
violet fossil
it won’t be me
green lintel
violet fossil
riot mmo
violet fossil
that’s not why that’s a 40 min que lol
green lintel
that’s not why that’s a 40 min que lol
Lack of players?
green lintel
i mean go look at valorant or league, Never have i had a 40 min Que lmfao
violet fossil
they’re not the same game lol
green lintel
Then its a devproblem
sharp meteor
if a solo shuffle que takes 40 minutes to pop, you know the game killed it self
Smartest shuffle player.
green lintel
but they are more retarded than the players lmfao
violet fossil
It autocorrected
grand scaffold
all g
violet fossil
lol
green lintel
It's impossible to find healers in 2s and 3s aswell xD
violet fossil
Cause ss killed arena
grand scaffold
all wow needs to do to be really good
is fix dampening
nothing else
can even leave elemental shaman busted
just fix dampening
sharp meteor
It's impossible to find healers in 2s and 3s aswell xD
ya cos ss killed arena rating
violet fossil
give PvP more attention
sharp meteor
nobody novoice yolo pugging glad right now
violet fossil
honestly
violet fossil
you can use in game chat
green lintel
im 1200 btw
violet fossil
🤫🤫
green lintel
nobody novoice yolo pugging glad right now
Why play 2s and 3s for 13+ a win, when u can play solo shuffle and get +60 rating 😎
sharp meteor
ya that's the issue
shuffle free rating
and has all non glad rewards
which nukes low-mid mmr incentives to do 2v2 and 3v3
nobody doing 3s for elite set when shuffle takes like an hour
green lintel
Blizz deff have the right idea about soloq, but still needs a lot of adjustments for sure
grand scaffold
all the bracket needs to be fixed with is dampening
healers are missing
fix dampening = more healers
simple
and give us a mount
sharp meteor
partially revert df damp change might b good
also the mode doesn't need a mount
but it'll probs get one
sharp meteor
so like i have tabard already
and elite set is like 5 shuffles
no more reason to q healer
spice hornet
Yeah 1800 in 3s takes like 3-6 hours and that’s with good w/l
Shuffle is like 2 hours
And even easier
next rover
fix dampening = more healers
fuck no
6 rounds with more dampening
Gonna take like 10 min each fight
1 hour for each solo q
sharp meteor
Ya when they nerf crits games should slow down more
mild thunder
It still needs a damp fix if they want healers to queue
Or
My favourite solution
Delete SoloQ
sharp meteor
psure solo kind of implodes next season when it'll be less free/inflated
especially if no mount
mild thunder
Yea that’s one of the shittiest things about it - there’s really no good reward for high-end players
There’s a season-tied title that everyone loses, and then a permanent title that is literally unobtainable for most players
And that’s it, no other reward past 1800
green wyvern
near delta
psure solo kind of implodes next season when it'll be less free/inflated
Yeah. Legit no reason to queue it if you can get 3s on LFG
mystic prairie
anyone got a list of unimportant pets/etc. so I could filter them out and only keep nameplates for important targets?
copper hare
Illusion not out by 2025 is my guess
mild thunder
tabard, cloak and illusion?
do you have an illusion? 
cause i dont
and a tabard and cloak are boring as fuck, lets be real
woeful solstice
if we dont get mmr injection in 3s soon and solos continue this way im done after s1
mild thunder
is the draw to soloQ supposed to be that you can get a tabard and cloak? is that really the best on offer?
woeful solstice
video game supposed to be fun not this much work to get rating
woeful solstice
is the draw to soloQ supposed to be that you can get a tabard and cloak? is that...
it needs its own mount
woeful solstice
recolor of current szn drake imo
just do different colors
2400 solos still harder than ksm
woeful solstice
brother ive ksm'd a toon that was like 404 gear
its a joke
its a participation trophy lol
mild thunder
404 is pretty decent ilvl for keys
you can defs get 2.4 in only honour gear
soloQ definitely, definitely does not deserve a glad-tier mount lmao
woeful solstice
the glad tier mount is inaccessible by most people due to zero participation so either ramp up 3s rewards to make people que or just kill the bracket off entirely imo
mild thunder
that's completely different to your last idea - yes, 3s should get a reward revamp
pvp as a whole should get a reward revamp
woeful solstice
still think soloq should get a mount
woeful solstice
but just make 3s have MORE rewards
mild thunder
soloQ should not grant elite gear and should grant a ground mount instead
1800 should be the vicious season progression mount
season progression should just be vicious saddles
elite sets should be at least 2.2, if not 2.4 and only from 2s/3s
woeful solstice
not a glad mount
why not? do you think other games should wall the best rewards to premade matchmaking?
mild thunder
because it would be a glad-tier reward for non-glad-tier difficulty content
wheat jay
Soloq needs faster q
woeful solstice
this glad circlejerk mentality is killing the game
gonna bleed out players over time
wheat jay
Its soloq not noq
mild thunder
Its soloq not noq
gottem
mild thunder
artji stfu
wheat jay
3s are dead
woeful solstice
yeah who fucking cares
sharp meteor
breh they're gonna add a mount then nuke mmr so everybody in shambles about 3s right now and asking for a shuffle mount will be in shambles next season
woeful solstice
breh they're gonna add a mount then nuke mmr so everybody in shambles about 3s r...
nah i wouldnt give a single fuck
i just want to QUE
i cant fucking q
sharp meteor
nothin stopin u from queuin
mild thunder
^
wheat jay
Give it mount so more ppl play it
sharp meteor
nope?
wheat jay
There is something stopping me
sharp meteor
i have a buddy who said queues dead as shit at like 2600
wheat jay
My team QUIT
sharp meteor
but up until glad seems fineish at reasonable hours
woeful solstice
so for a player who hasnt gotten a gladiator yet how am i supposed to deal with sitting in lfg for an hour only to get check-pvp'd every time i apply for a group
mystic prairie
are people generally against gear progression thru pvp rating?
mild thunder
i queue very unpopulated hours and from oce and still get games in under 3minutes
sharp meteor
just trade it out partners on the way up
woeful solstice
im 1900 cr/2k mmr right now and cant even get games
because theres like 4 groups in lfg
i would love to spam games all day
wheat jay
are people generally against gear progression thru pvp rating?
Depends
woeful solstice
seriously, im frothy for it
wheat jay
Pve ilvl from pvp gear, noone cares
woeful solstice
but this premade lfg crap is just so fucking clunk
wheat jay
Pvp gear having different upgrades based on rating like in shadowlands, that was bad
green lintel
Soloq is the most fun ive had in years, Only downside is quetimes
wheat jay
2h for a q
mild thunder
Soloq is the most fun ive had in years, Only downside is quetimes
ick
woeful solstice
right, i actually get to play arena
mild thunder
idk how you guys have had such bad experiences with LFG tho... just fucking queue with someone, don't be a bitch and blame them for everything and bam
problem solved
wheat jay
Lfg was easy
green lintel
Bro solo shuffle is giga fun, cuz u literally just pick a target and nuke the living shit out them. No worrying about synergy, chain cc. Just zug zug full no brain
wheat jay
Usually took like 5-10 min to get a team
mild thunder
how is that fun?
you literally just admit that it requires no skill or coordination
green lintel
we warriors should embrace that
wheat jay
Not rly
green lintel
you literally just admit that it requires no skill or coordination
thats why its fun
woeful solstice
the zugzug thing hasnt been my experience at 2600
mild thunder
"i want my competitive pvp to require no skill 🤓"
mystic prairie
Pvp gear having different upgrades based on rating like in shadowlands, that was...
but is it worse than "I farmed conquest gear in a couple days and I'm set for the season"? PvP has no progression beyond that rn
woeful solstice
im seeing some coordinated shit happen
wheat jay
but is it worse than "I farmed conquest gear in a couple days and I'm set for th...
Yes, if was worse
woeful solstice
its definitely not as gigabrain as a premade comp who has their chains practiced
green lintel
especially for an average player, having to understand how to coordinate all that is really complicated
woeful solstice
but if you're not a fucking idiot you can see when you're teammate is ccing and can chain on that
wheat jay
Because you had people grind 2100, get full gear, and spend days boosting people to 1800
mild thunder
especially for an average player, having to understand how to coordinate all tha...
that's what pvp is tho
woeful solstice
especially for an average player, having to understand how to coordinate all tha...
this is pvp tho
lol
mild thunder
wow pvp is literally
woeful solstice
like...git gud
mild thunder
99% coordination
wheat jay
As well as you were fucked with alts, cuz you needed like 6 honor caps to fully upgrade your gear
As well as having to grind 2100 on every alt
woeful solstice
stop looking at your action bars and look at the game
mild thunder
this is unironically newer players destroying 3s because they want pvp to be pve
wheat jay
To have equal chances against people
sharp meteor
this is unironically newer players destroying 3s because they want pvp to be pve
it does make it more easily approachable if it's just doin dam ya
woeful solstice
this is unironically newer players destroying 3s because they want pvp to be pve
3s is just a boomer bracket dude. ppl want to log on -> que for game -> get game in reasonable time
why does every other game have this and not wow
mild thunder
it does make it more easily approachable if it's just doin dam ya
more approachable =/= good
sharp meteor
more approachable =/= good
ya ik it has had consquences
i can pop into lfg on an alt and get no partners for like a half hour
mild thunder
3s is just a boomer bracket dude. ppl want to log on -> que for game -> get game...
3s is the non-boomer bracket... soloQ is for boomers that don't have time/energy/IQ for pvp anymore
sharp meteor
cos everybody waiting for somebody bigger
wheat jay
3s is the non-boomer bracket... soloQ is for boomers that don't have time/energy...
I meaaaaaan
woeful solstice
3s is the non-boomer bracket... soloQ is for boomers that don't have time/energy...
again man, you're missing the point
wheat jay
Depends on what you play xD
woeful solstice
i dont have a fucking network of people ive been pvping with for 5 years
green lintel
3s is the non-boomer bracket... soloQ is for boomers that don't have time/energy...
thats literally 99% of the playerbase
wheat jay
Neither do I
woeful solstice
lfg is dogshit
mild thunder
i dont have a fucking network of people ive been pvping with for 5 years
neither do i?
wheat jay
Lfg was easy
woeful solstice
so you're both glad this season purely from lfg?
mild thunder
i started pvping at start of SL, by end of s1 i had a full bnet of dozens of players
mild thunder
and no, im not glad
woeful solstice
ya because SL had fucking participation at least in s1 lmao
wheat jay
Kargish I met here and we played for honor before we did arena xD
woeful solstice
this is embarrassing for S1 of an expansion
mild thunder
pretty sure DF participation is higher than SL, no?
it's just that it's spread over more brackets
wheat jay
Participation is high
woeful solstice
likely spread
wheat jay
In solo
wheat jay
And in pve
mild thunder
wheat jay
At this point only way to save 3s, is have it be more pve
That's why theyre nerfing cce
Cc
mild thunder
soloQ also fundamentally takes away the most attractive part of an mmo - PLAYING WITH YOUR FRIENDS
wheat jay
And maybe theyll fix mmr
green lintel
Typically wow players, first we want something and now we want to remove it again
wheat jay
But makes it more approachable by making it solo
mild thunder
why fucking play a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game if you cant play with friends ffs
mild thunder
Typically wow players, first we want something and now we want to remove it agai...
i never wanted soloQ
wheat jay
Neither did I
mild thunder
a lot of people here never wanted soloQ
wheat jay
Cuz I knew how it would end up haha
green lintel
There is a reason they added it lol
wheat jay
Yes
wheat jay
To make pvp more active
woeful solstice
soloQ also fundamentally takes away the most attractive part of an mmo - PLAYING...
agree here
green lintel
Obviously its the player choice
wheat jay
Not Uber casuals
Let me remind you that we are a minority in this game
Very small minority
mild thunder
demon hunters and streamers*
wheat jay
Of endgame players
mild thunder
i literally never saw anyone ask for soloQ but streamers
wheat jay
And EVEN smaller minority, because we Play pvp
green lintel
Let me remind you that we are a minority in this game
literally top 0.1%
we have no say in anything
wheat jay
Yep
mild thunder
agree here
this is the reason im gonna be quitting pvp
green lintel
and i bet the majority of the playerbase like the soloq idea
mild thunder
soloQ has genuinely zero appeal
wheat jay
I dont like solo shuffle either
mild thunder
if i wanna play a solo game i'll go play the witcher for the 100th time
wheat jay
Zero coordination
Play pve in arena and try to carry
Meanwhile 3s was group effort
And that made it all the more exciting
Shuffle is just lfr for pvp
mild thunder
exactly, it was a shared experience of coordination and improvement with people that you (hopefully) enjoy playing with
wheat jay
Its there, gives same rewards, except mythic(glad) mount
mild thunder
soloQ is for loners
wheat jay
My friend who was moaning for soloq in wow
Has played maybe two shuffles
Then he was like reeee pvp in wow sucks cuz its not 1v1 soloq
mild thunder
the other reason people love soloQ so much rn is because everyone thinks they turned into an overnight 2.4 player
mild thunder
if rating gets brought back down they'll all quit
steep inlet
yep
mild thunder
because they'll realise they arent suddenly r1 pros that were being dragged down by lfg
wheat jay
Everyone gonna be like "MY CLASS SUCKS BLIZZ BUFF I WAS 3400 DH NOW I CAN'T BREAK 1800"
I remember saying that solo shuffle gonna be a reality check for people
mild thunder
it unfortunately was not
wheat jay
If they nerf mmr in s2
mild thunder
s2 should be, hopefully
wheat jay
THAT, will be true reality check xD
Cuz all the disci, all dh, all assa, all bm, and all warriors that think theyre Blizo or Whazz will suddenly get stuck at 1600
mild thunder
they also need to seriously fix lobbying
mild thunder
having it be a coin-toss between a caster being in an all-melee lobby or visa versa is cringe af
mild thunder
you say that now but it's only getting worse next season
when it's omega-caster-meta
mild thunder
it definitely is
mild thunder
interrupt nerfs, precog even more free, most casters getting buffs, cc nerfs probs help casters more too
and general pve meta
wheat jay
Pve meta often favours melee cleaves tho
mild thunder
it's already shifted toward a caster meta rn
wheat jay
Since you dont even rely on cc
mild thunder
and they're getting more buffs
wheat jay
We'll see, no point trying to predict anything now
mild thunder
no you dont understand, i see it with my 3rd eye
wheat jay
Also, assa/arms strongest classes, surely its caster meta
wheat jay
no you dont understand, i see it with my 3rd eye
Butthole?
mild thunder
you got me
mild thunder
Also, assa/arms strongest classes, surely its caster meta
assa/arms are big outliers tho, they're 1-2 tiers ahead of any other melee
and everything else around that level is a caster
destro, demo, sp, ele, frost etc.
wheat jay
Nothing is at that level, everything is below
mild thunder
hardcore disagree
wheat jay
Warrior in all honesty is almost as abusive as in s2 shadowlands
mild thunder
im not saying arms isnt op, but it's not as strong as rogue rn and it definitely isn't a melee meta
wheat jay
It kinda is
wheat jay
What was the website with class popularity?
mild thunder
but not as strong as sub
popularity =/= power
warr is a braindead spec with a lot of appeal, it's always highly represented
wheat jay
Arms dominating there
Okay lets try something less popularity reliant
And more skill reliant
3s
mild thunder
bro even that
wheat jay
mild thunder
wheat jay
Arms is popular because its strong
wheat jay
If it wasn't the best noone would play it
mild thunder
arms is popular because it's easy and is encouraged by a lot of very big streamers
wheat jay
We've seen what happens to specs popularity when they get nerfed
mild thunder
and has a lot of fantasy appeal
wheat jay
Same happened to both warr specs many times
Its strong
Strongest in the game rn probably
wheat jay
And arms by itself is making the meta melee
mild thunder
bro how
almost no top arms warrior is playing melee cleaves
if anything arms makes the meta less melee because of how hard it shits on other melee
woeful solstice
ya most arms are playing arms/wiz/x
from what i see
melee cleave is awful at higher mmr
maybe arms/ret good again in 10.0.7
mild thunder
melee cleaves are a meme 
woeful solstice
i did war/dh/disc in legion s4 to get my elite set
that was fun
crimson legend is top .1% of your spec yes?
at this rate i have a better shot of hitting that than glad
sharp meteor
I don't know about that.
Unless they make it so alts don't occupy slots and a bunch of top people get dq'd.
dark sparrow
Bro next season def gonna be caster meta ngl.
Lock/mage gonna be untouchable for melees vs semi decent people
sharp meteor
Can't wait to queue into frost/demo or ele/demo on Tuesday. 
wheat jay
Dont forget bm
mild thunder
Can't wait to queue into frost/demo or ele/demo on Tuesday. <:deadge:90027992713...
bm gonna be absolutely insane
sharp meteor
I remember playing like 20 games one night and we only saw one melee cleave.
It was like 16 games of wizards and one jungle
mild thunder
yep, melee cleaves be struggling
frank knoll
Can't wait to queue into frost/demo or ele/demo on Tuesday. <:deadge:90027992713...
Did demo get buffs or something
mild thunder
blizz did a little tuning
wanton sun
Super random. I have hit a new personal best in solo shuffle at 2231 CR. Do I need to up my game a lot to get to 2400 or just keep doing what I've been doing to get to 2231?
mild thunder
Super random. I have hit a new personal best in solo shuffle at 2231 CR. Do I ne...
depends how easily you got 2231
if it took you 3000 games and you struggled all the way, you probably will need to keep improving a fair bit
if you did it in a week and <200 games, you'll be fine
wheat jay
Roll good lobbg
sharp meteor
I just walked at the least mobile target and hit 123 to elite and asked myself why i was playing this mode when i was gonna queue 3s anyways
sharp meteor
just don't say anything that could be seen as a jab
wanton sun
Hm. I've played 639 games total, but a lot of the early games I was learning arms and my gear was pretty off and this week I have a 55% win rate on 69 rounds
sharp meteor
or people run it down insta
wanton sun
I usually only ask or say anything about our target. otherwise just try to focus on my game play and what I'm doing
wanton sun
if I die, I try to do some quick analysis on what may have gone wrong and what I can do better and then try to move on
mild thunder
nah i like to tell people they're retarded and that im better than them 
sharp meteor
should get it within a few weeks
wanton sun
if i do start to get upset or tilted, I try to stop queuing and do something else or play a different character
tranquil hemlock
That too
mild thunder
soloQ is just time investment
play enough games, you'll climb
unless you're actually missing fingers
wanton sun
lol
I honestly didn't think I was good enough to climb, and then last weekend I went on a tear and went from 1800 to 2100
and then dipped back down to 1900 and now after my queue session last night up to 2231
mild thunder
queue > roll good lobby > win
wanton sun
I had heard people mention that part of solo shuffle is also luck, but I didn't want to really believe it. I thought if I could focus on improving my skill I would automatically climb, but there's definitely an element of luck.
I still haven't been able to figure out what's a good/bad lobby for arms. sometimes I do okay into triple caster and other times I just get deleted. Same with all melee lobbies.
mild thunder
i mean, sub like 3k there's no such thing as an unfavourable lobby tbh
there's always tons of stuff you can do to eek out a 4-2 at worst
wanton sun
I've started to learn with some casters that if I Just do my goes and then hide while they kill people or LoS to get healed back up then go out again and hit stuff for a bit it usually works out pretty well. If I over stay my welcome or get greedy into casters I die
quick carbon
Anyone else watch the fight?
wanton sun
ouch
rotund trellis
another new record!!! 3.5 seconds game!!!!!
wanton sun
Don't forget you can spell reflect glacial. I killed a frost mage with it yesterday 🙂
fallen bridge
Feels soooooo good when you do
quick carbon
another new record!!! 3.5 seconds game!!!!!
u need to avoid damage more
wanton sun
Also even if you don't get the glacial getting an ice lance or something may be enough to help you get away to line the glacial
rotund trellis
sorry forgot to mention I was on my druid in a 2v2
wanton sun
oh lol
rotund trellis
dude I think I'm better at healing than dpsing went up 250 today
woeful solstice
theres ur problem
dont let him do that
bro post ur games with trufigcd enabled so i can see what you are pressing
we will help you
green lintel
Why the fuck am i quing with 1700 rated players when im 2.2k in solo shuffle?
woeful solstice
Why the fuck am i quing with 1700 rated players when im 2.2k in solo shuffle?
rating brackets seem to be like 4-500 sometimes
i was 2600 in a lobby with 3ks today
also you're probably on a rating decline
its checking you
sharp meteor
Why the fuck am i quing with 1700 rated players when im 2.2k in solo shuffle?
cus its mmr
my alt is like 1200 cr 2300 mmr
also healers are in a bubble
can get 2500 healers in a 2900 game
rotund trellis
bro post ur games with trufigcd enabled so i can see what you are pressing
I was on my druid alt sorry, it was just a funny crit i wanted to post
sharp meteor
or 3k healers in a 2.4k game
woeful solstice
I was on my druid alt sorry, it was just a funny crit i wanted to post
ooo gotcha
rotund trellis
but bro, I got 1500 in 2v2 in basically 2 days, with 404ilvl gear
My buddy is good, I'm basically hiher mmr on my alt than my warrior. Maybe I;'m just better at healing lol
wooden grove
simple rock
that's not true at all on NA
it's gotten noticeably worse in the past month
30min was max at higher mmr before
but maybe more people are waiting for patch than I presumed
mild thunder
If you want better queues, play a healer or a non-meta spec
tawny brook
But then I would have to play healer or a non-meta spec
mild thunder
does anyone here use the blizzard Personal Resource Display?
still scarab
sophic devotion or frozen writ for pvp?
indigo barn
Ques will be good next week for a short period with all the new rets 
lean burrow
does anyone here use the blizzard Personal Resource Display?
dog shit system
i tried making it not dogshit with plater but it's still shit
weakauras are the best
wanton sun
welp so much for trying to push 2400. 😦 my rating got completely trashed tonight and my mmr is now bricked
lean burrow
bricked character 
mild thunder
playing arms has that effect... swinging that big, thick sword around all day...
ruby temple
Question about the pins. What match up is it better to be running the thunderous roar/no skull splitter build?
sharp meteor
I think that it's probably the best place to start, yeah.
ruby temple
Just in general? I've been playing the spear build but it feels like a lot of my damage is just in that one go. Wondering if that build does more steady damage throughout the match
ruby temple
In 3s I play with a dk so I feel like it's usually pretty good really easy to set up the multi spear goes
woeful solstice
welp so much for trying to push 2400. 😦 my rating got completely trashed tonigh...
Solos or 3s?
wanton sun
Solo.
spark zenith
Yo chads. If I want to go bleed build arms, what haste should I be aiming for?
spark zenith
Question about the pins. What match up is it better to be running the thunderous...
I use it against mages
Rightly or wrongly
ruby temple
I use it against mages
Against mages you say hon hon hon. I'll try it out today and see how it feels
grand scaffold
Solo.
bro
piece of advice
play until you lose 1 game
if you dont wanna do that cut yourself off at 100 rating loss
whats your cr at now
grand scaffold
no
thats what makes you lose cr is that mindset
thats how i lost 2700 over 2 times
tawny brook
Does discipline or preservation use more cc? I love all the cc arms has and want a cc healer
lucid walrus
disc has fear and MC basically
quaint snow
disintegrate from evoker is pretty good
slender lion
What do u do against mw fistweaving?
grand scaffold
What do u do against mw fistweaving?
you focus a dps
then when the dps gets cocooned
you swap on the fistweaver
slender lion
In 2s lol
grand scaffold
the same thing
slender lion
It isn't tho
grand scaffold
didnt say it was
slender lion
Ef and fs allow them to heal stupid
grand scaffold
i said you do the same thing
slender lion
I do lol but the healing from mw along with damage is insane
He was doing more damage than the arms he was with
I was attacking the mw. 30%. He then healed to full while I was on him. Broken isn't even the word
grand scaffold
well fistweaving CAN be hard to beat in 2's in 3's it flops
either way when dps gets cocooned go on fistweaver
90% of times he will teleport behind pillar to heal
then you go back on dps
swapping a lot wins
slender lion
In 2s I tend to focus the healer since the dps tends to be aggressive towards mine. So I tell him to stay close while I hit the healer
Fair. The ones we faced just stacked
My healer couldn't do a thing.
grand scaffold
did you have imp sweeping strikes?
slender lion
Cant mind but I used ss
grand scaffold
either way into fistweavers its pretty good
mild thunder
What do u do against mw fistweaving?
run spear
punish MW for being in melee
cleave as much as possible
swap on cocoon if you're not gonna oneshot it with wreck
dont stack for sweep
keep track of where monk port is and try to fight as close to it as possible, preferably on top
not sure what else im forgetting
mild thunder
but yea, arms has an incredibly favourable matchup into fistweaver
grand scaffold
yeah
mild thunder
kind of a cocky thing to do, but you can pop parry to prevent them from healing via dmg
grand scaffold
i sometimes do that vs fury warriors
slender lion
kind of a cocky thing to do, but you can pop parry to prevent them from healing ...
Yeah parry seems strong just to use for their healing
slender lion
run spear
punish MW for being in melee
cleave as much as possible
swap on cocoon...
I did run spear yeah. Most were clever and popped either fs or ef before we started. The one that didn't got deleted
lucid walrus
mag mentioned doing it and blowing them up lmao
slender lion
I run spear in 2s since they tend to last less time n I want mpre instant burst
slender lion
mag mentioned doing it and blowing them up lmao
Parry?
lucid walrus
yea
lucid walrus
mhm
slender lion
run spear
punish MW for being in melee
cleave as much as possible
swap on cocoon...
We didn't get far enough for the monk to port. When I got them low they had stomp and ef off cd and just went too full
Like 25kdps and 40khps is dumb
But
The warrior was always shit
mild thunder
Only issue then is he hits my healer lol
not if he's in your spear
lucid walrus
tell the rogue shuffled into your team to evade too
mild thunder
i think this was 2s
lucid walrus
ah
mild thunder
which begs the real question - why tf are you playing 2s
lucid walrus
wasn’t paying attention to the specific scenario ngl
slender lion
which begs the real question - why tf are you playing 2s
Cuz we don't have a 3rd lol
mild thunder
arms/disc also just feels shit still... yes, disc is op but it has negative synergy with arms
always more fun to play with a healer that just afks and tops throughput with 1 finger (rdru)
slender lion
arms/disc also just feels shit still... yes, disc is op but it has negative syne...
Yeah I agree it doesn't feel the best set up
Rdru or mw for arms then?
mild thunder
rdruid has always been and will always be the best healer for arms 2s
unless the spec somehow gets completely reworked
lucid walrus
rdruid has always been and will always be the best healer for arms 2s
unless it’s an hpal season ☻
mild thunder
throughput, mana-efficiency, elusiveness and occasional cc/kill-setup
the days of feral affinity rdruid is pretty much over, but good ones can still pull it off a bit
mild thunder
unless it’s an hpal season ☻
once a decade
lucid walrus
it feels like the only healer other than rdruid or priest that gets time atop the throne tbh
when’s the last time rsham was de facto best
mild thunder
true... last time i remember rsham being relevant was wod
and that was only relevant, not clear best
it'll just be prevo, rdru and priest from now on
slender lion
throughput, mana-efficiency, elusiveness and occasional cc/kill-setup
Yeah they can kite fairly well. I'll take this into account n tell him to gear his druid to resto lol
Rather than balance
lucid walrus
prevo rolls off the tongue nicely
sounds like it could be a slur in some cyberpunk franchise though
lucid walrus
mild thunder
my arena partner almost killed his own raid team from bullying all the evoker rerollers too much
quaint snow
gigachad
grand scaffold
😄
bronze summit
are warriors anything to have in RBGS?
lethal sky
quaint snow
are warriors anything to have in RBGS?
not a rbg meta class at all
mild thunder
at least one arms is almost always meta in rbgs purely for sharpen
warped warren
lil bro played 2400 rounds of shuffle, thats like 3 weeks in queue, real time
grand scaffold
lil bro played 2400 rounds of shuffle, thats like 3 weeks in queue, real time <:...
😂
arms took me a lot of rounds because i had to learn how to play it
fury was ez
already knew how
wet stirrup
Do you think fury was better for climbing or just more experienced with it?
steep inlet
Good job doggo
wild phoenix
ah and yet again i start a pvp grind too late
all pve gear catching quick deaths lmao
mild thunder
ah and yet again i start a pvp grind too late
gearing takes 2 hours
hushed plank
@wet stirrup Ndogo has been fury for a really long time helps a lot prolly knows it like the back of his hand
bronze summit
So, fury is the way to go for arena and RBG lets say 2k~ rating is arms?
hushed plank
I think Arms is still better even with nerf
brazen rock
arms huge.
shut barn
wild phoenix
yeah what nerfs is the blue button of pain getting?
mild thunder
So, fury is the way to go for arena and RBG lets say 2k~ rating is arms?
it's not even remotely close
arms is a top 2 melee spec rn, fury is the worst
quaint snow
I think Arms is still better even with nerf
what nerf?
quaint snow
good 😌
wild phoenix
is leech a good enchant for bracer and cloak?
wild phoenix
i also asked google and icy veins said the same
we zoomies now. gotta go fast!
is the 2h crafted sword from pve good enough to make a weapon one of the last things i buy?
mild thunder
no
quaint snow
is the 2h crafted sword from pve good enough to make a weapon one of the last th...
wep should always be first prio, biggest upgrade
wild phoenix
ty, itll be my next purchase
sonic belfry
Any tips on 2v2 hunter+druid comp? Everytime I get kited to death
little lava
Any tips on 2v2 hunter+druid comp? Everytime I get kited to death
dont play 2s
little lava
its not good agaisnt druid with hunter
rotund trellis
GRATS!!!! build and equipment / gems? 😄
grand scaffold
GRATS!!!! build and equipment / gems? 😄
thanks man!
still using the same stuff as before
20% haste 20% crit
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2 crit vers gems
rest haste vers gems
btw i never play spear i dont like it under any situation
rotund trellis
thanks man!!! btw I've been playing my resto alt and got almost to 1600 in 1.5 days. Maybe I'm just better at healing LOL
grand scaffold
thanks man!!! btw I've been playing my resto alt and got almost to 1600 in 1.5 d...
grats!
how many rounds played?
rotund trellis
it's 2v2. I don't know, I'm on Diablo 4 now. I'll let you know as soon as I log wow
grand scaffold
ok cool
rotund trellis
I still can't play shuffle, I'm 408 ilvl
rotund trellis
I think around 1580s
rotund trellis
Yeah when I play normal ladder with my friends I do much better. SS is incredibly though as a learning mode
grand scaffold
how many rounds played do you have in solo shuffle on arms
rotund trellis
I'll have to check when I log. MANY though. LOL
grand scaffold
is it more than 1967?
rotund trellis
lol no
rotund trellis
yeah but yours are at mega high mmr, lol
grand scaffold
eh
it took me a lot of rounds to get to 2k
i just spammed till i learned my mistakes and got better
you just gotta be thinking the whole time what might i be doing wrong
and dont do the mistake next round
you'll get there
🙂
rotund trellis
I will one day! I get to play so little like a couple of shuffles per night max, I work until 7pm lol
grand scaffold
bro i play like 1-2 shuffles a dayt
not because i cant play more but because i dont wanna
😂
grand scaffold
I will one day! I get to play so little like a couple of shuffles per night max,...
strong work ethic
👍
grand scaffold
I will one day! I get to play so little like a couple of shuffles per night max,...
lemme know if you record anymore games tho
ill be happy to review them
quick carbon
ya recording ur games is the best way to get better
even if non believers in execute help u review them
grand scaffold
either that or having somebody in call exactly telling you what to do
i was helping some guy the other day by doing that
grand scaffold
🤨
quick carbon
I think post session vods r superior
grand scaffold
bro they learn what to do when what happens
in that moment
im easier to remember
quick carbon
I’m watching jax on Twitter
Campaign
About how warrior is better than rogue
disgusting rogue mains
rotund trellis
lemme know if you record anymore games tho
appreciate that!!!
grand scaffold
appreciate that!!!
🙂
hushed plank
@quaint snow execution sentence doesn’t stack to 20 anymore def a nerf
grand scaffold
<@178959049532899328> execution sentence doesn’t stack to 20 anymore def a nerf
execution sentence doesnt stack its a paladin button
hushed plank
Gave the wrong name it’s the stacks that add to execute
hushed plank
Still a nerf that’s why I said earlier even with the nerf still think arms is better
undone pumice
fatality stacking to 200+ over 10 minutes pveing was funny
mystic prairie
even if non believers in execute help u review them
exe
ms
thick reef
lmao the background
grand scaffold
exe <:critcake:984549832511344640>
ms <:xeos:945501697847992341>
facts
@quick carbon check that out
sharp meteor
Oh, it's that DK that's always bitching on the forums about how Frost is like F tier.
grand scaffold
frost is like better than unholy atm
unholy dks are easy to beat
frost can atleats 1 shot
grand scaffold
Oh, it's that DK that's always bitching on the forums about how Frost is like F ...
is that really him?
cinder tundra
https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/solo
Hard to take seriously that page, arms talent tree seems to be old content?
grand scaffold
Hard to take seriously that page, arms talent tree seems to be old content?
let me send you the build i got 3k with
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cinder tundra
let me send you the build i got 3k with
thanks!
grand scaffold
Hard to take seriously that page, arms talent tree seems to be old content?
the worldofwarcraft hasnt updated
and murlok updates based off of that
thats why its old
cinder tundra
build looks very nice 🙂
grand scaffold
its quite good works into most things
against pet classes you wanna drop blademasters for warlords
and drop unhinged for ep
ruby temple
are you using this in solo shuffle ndogofury?
grand scaffold
yah
ruby temple
cool thanks
grand scaffold
np
sage raptor
Who
sage raptor
Just got dabbed back to 2019
sage raptor
Oh it's Chillpills!
He was always like "fdk should have an execute" and then they got soul reaper lmaoo
Oof
grand scaffold
He was always like "fdk should have an execute" and then they got soul reaper lm...
hahahaha
thick reef
https://clips.twitch.tv/TsundereCuriousPanTheRinger-LYnwOU7DXwbmRpgu
holy fucking shit LOL i got scared by that
grand scaffold
yeah
green anchor
Could someone pls link that site which tracks and shows spells nerfed in pvp and by how much
grand scaffold
Could someone pls link that site which tracks and shows spells nerfed in pvp and...
theres a site that does that?
green anchor
@grand scaffoldhttps://drustvar.com/pvp-spells
found it through discord search
last update from Feb 8
So Bloodborne doesn't show up there for warrior
but someone here said that it's nerfed in PvP
grand scaffold
but someone here said that it's nerfed in PvP
i dont think it is
grand scaffold
yeah
green anchor
ah yeah found the message(s)... it's Bloodletting
elfin surge
are u rating shaming?
green anchor
No I can't
grand scaffold
i saw some guy with 400 rounds of solo shuffle at 200 cr
green anchor
actually I could rating shame that guy cause he's a BM hunter
I lost most of my rating thanks to BM hunters
grand scaffold
what rating were you
sharp meteor
Sniper Shot is a Marksmanship honor talent.
ruby temple
I lost most of my rating thanks to BM hunters
feels like everytime i'm about to hit the next rank some brave hunter queues in and says "not today this is a 3-3 lobby assholes"
green anchor
exactly man
green anchor
what rating were you
~1750
hot solstice
47 arms on eu
green anchor
then nose dived to 1200
hot solstice
2s is dead
green anchor
huh
hot solstice
lose 1 game = dont play
1 lose=insta delete char
grand scaffold
1 lose=insta delete char
😂
ruby temple
exactly man
this time it was a resto druid literally running on top of the DK and fury warrior to rake stun the priest? :))
2 rating from 1600 and lost 58 cuz druid went 0-6 running in like a man RIP
sage raptor
https://i.imgur.com/D2SzFAS.png
Hey, stop posting my cr
green anchor
I'm gonna spam your cr
high star
my troar/spear macro randomly doesnt want to cast troar anymore
they change something in past couple weeks i havent played or skill issue
mystic prairie
show the macro
high star
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion, @cursor] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar```spear works troar doesnt 😦
been using this macro for a while too
hot solstice
does anybody having problem with stance buff dissapearing?
hot solstice
spear works troar doesnt 😦
troar is insta not that aoe spear u need to aim
mystic prairie
this mad boomie goes down to 1 hp and continues to live for at least another 20 seconds lmao
dark sparrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Vy1E9HzL8
Holy fuck the clip at 6mins where the Druid is just walking backwards on him is so troll lmao
limber relic
Im done with solo Q for now.
dark sparrow
Care @limber relic, the Ndogo is coming for your spot
high star
damn gz king
limber relic
😎 im waiting
full quiver
Isn't ndogo higher lol
limber relic
damn gz king
ty ty ❤️
full quiver
Oh weird his rank is 73 but rating is lower
limber relic
its NA
grand scaffold
Care <@226843703208181761>, the Ndogo is coming for your spot
nah he on eu
😂
seifcham hows the streams going
limber relic
i would be r60 on NA
limber relic
seifcham hows the streams going
good bro, going strong
limber relic
slowly growing haha, had 15 viewers yday XD feels so strange
limber relic
XD
grand scaffold
😄
limber relic
💪
grand scaffold
you as well man
grand scaffold
yeah
grand scaffold
that was great
green anchor
lol
grand scaffold
haha
limber relic
after a soloQ game
grand scaffold
i streamed a while back
limber relic
funniest shit ive ever seen
grand scaffold
and some people came in
saying i was boosting some guy
apparently they all 3 reported me
😂
limber relic
😂
mystic prairie
went 2-4 in a ele-demolock-boomie lobby, ~2k mmr, I'm so clueless as to what to do there
limber relic
i would sit boomie
rapid shard
Hey guys I know this is the warrior discord but do any of you know about ele shaman rotation? I tried asking the ele discord but I think theyre on that hardcore cannabis thing
rapid shard
But when do you use lightning reee
There has to be an actual rota
To synergies frost shock, flame, lb, lightning
And earth shock
limber relic
haha yeah im just messign with ya idk
grand scaffold
went 2-4 in a ele-demolock-boomie lobby, ~2k mmr, I'm so clueless as to what to ...
ok
rapid shard
All good man..they literally said what you said
grand scaffold
when boomie on your team
you go lock
when elemental on your team you go lock
and when lock on your team you go boomy
you go whatever stops the most dmg
rapid shard
It's melting my brain that I can't find someone that actually knows an ele rota/priority list
grand scaffold
going elemental stops 0 dmg
going boomy stops a little bit
going lock stops quite a chunk
grand scaffold
thats true
limber relic
also a good target
grand scaffold
its a good point
but boomy is HARD to kill compared to a demo lock imo
but i like your reasoning
mystic prairie
and when lock on your team you go boomy
went ele with lock on my team, was a mistake I guess, maybe would've pulled off a 3-3
grand scaffold
eh
demo has a hard time against warriors
a really hard time
boomy can kite you pretty easily which lock cant
thats just my opinion tho
grand scaffold
imo boomy harder to kill with amount of kiting and bear form
mystic prairie
either way it was like if I go in the open my hp goes under half
limber relic
yea true
but
bear form > no dmg
no cc
demo doesnt do much dmg outside of cds tbh
limber relic
XDD