Wait hold up. Blizz has been artificially inflating mmr in the past seasons?
#pvp
mild pier
near delta
So mmr has stayed constant which made a lot of people stop playing entirely
mild pier
Didn't know that. Wild
mild thunder
Wait hold up. Blizz has been artificially inflating mmr in the past seasons?
Forever
near delta
It went too far bfa s4 and sl s2 so they tried to lower it a bit
mild thunder
Or at least not a recent thing
near delta
And they overcorrected
mild thunder
People just tend to forget about it
mild thunder
Unchained was pretty wild
hazy isle
i dont get why people hate high inflation seasons tho
mild thunder
Respect out to my unchained gladiators
wheat jay
Unchained was wild
hazy isle
who cares if more ppl have glad lol
mild thunder
Yea but now that mount is so meaningless
mild pier
who cares if more ppl have glad lol
Outside of a few elitists really nobody gives a shit
mild thunder
You see someone on it and it just shows that they bothered to play that season
mild thunder
To the avg WoW player ksm is probably rare
mild pier
Like if it was one glad mount an xpac then okay. But that shit gets shelved as soon as the new season hits
mild thunder
Doesn’t mean it’s meaningful
hazy isle
whats the threshold for it being meaningful?
mild thunder
Not being a participation trophy
sharp meteor
don't lose and farm like 2 points off who they do queue into
hazy isle
how many ppl got glad in unchanined?
sharp meteor
idk like 10k+ on ea region
near delta
There's definitely a problem where like the average glad is like 1000 cr under r1 players
Kinda scuffed
hazy isle
ok yea 10k is prob too much
mild thunder
There's definitely a problem where like the average glad is like 1000 cr under r...
That and seeing someone be a terminal 1800-2100 player until unchained
And then back to 1800 lmao
near delta
Lol yeah
hazy isle
still find that preferable to the current ladder
mild thunder
Current ladder is kinda the reverse extreme, but it’ll even out by end of season
topaz tulip
Wait hold up. Blizz has been artificially inflating mmr in the past seasons?
If you wanted to read their take
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/1522690-dragonflight-season-1-rated-pvp-rating-discussion/
mild thunder
Start of season glad should be a r1 thing… right now is when it should start becoming a bit more of a regular glad thing
mild pier
If you wanted to read their take
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/152...
I'll give that a read
near delta
Current ladder is kinda the reverse extreme, but it’ll even out by end of season
It might not tbh
A lot of people just aren't coming back
lean burrow
mild thunder
It might not tbh
Yea you’re probably right
sharp meteor
A lot of people just aren't coming back
Kind of funny how this whole thing is a bit of a player issue.
Nobody plays 3s because it's harder than shuffle which further makes 3v3 harder.
Blizzard also fucked up by having shuffle give EVERYTHING except Gladiator.
Because that just hoses 2v2 and 3v3 below glad.
Even if shuffle wasn't free it'd still siphon a lot of participation because it's easy to play
near delta
Also what's even the point of legend without some kinda title. I'm like not that many wins away but I cba
lucid walrus
yeah like
i have my tabard and am not good enough to feasibly push 0.5% on this spec
i don’t want a title that’ll be gone in a few weeks lol
near delta
I like the idea of a recolor of the ksm mount that matches the glad mount color
sharp meteor
i have my tabard and am not good enough to feasibly push 0.5% on this spec
It's top 0.1% for title, lmao
lucid walrus
ah
sharp meteor
So it'll probably be high r1s and their 3 alts
lucid walrus
yeah fuck that^2
lean burrow
Because that just hoses 2v2 and 3v3 below glad.
-400 mmr deflation for shuffle
sharp meteor
2400 shuff is a chill place to stop
lucid walrus
is there even a 2.7 achieve for this bracket lmfao
it wouldn’t mean anything but i haven’t looked
sharp meteor
no shuffle achis yet nah
probs added in a few seasons
like 1750 shuffle 2200 shuffle etc
lucid walrus
[Just the One of Us: 2000]
lucid walrus
who would’ve thought that gutting everything that makes your MMO an MMO would kill its population and sense of cohesion between players
flat tide
Which is...
lucid walrus
chiefly making LFG obsolete through shuffle
flat tide
That's not "everything" though is it
lucid walrus
you’re correct. that’s chiefly
flat tide
I see no chief
mild pier
dragonflight so dead its crazy
I mean SL launched in the middle of covid lockdown so that might have something to do with not as many players
swift folio
S1 sl there were alot of pve players doing pvp for gear aswell
same with S1 bfa but not as much
sharp meteor
SL s1 was pve players wanting pve gear
mid season they fell the fuck off and the ladder died
s2 was propped the fuck up and why people reached 3.8k cr
sharp meteor
ya everybody gonna wait until the literal last month of the season to q 
swift folio
s2 was propped the fuck up and why people reached 3.8k cr
so they just gave more rating for wins ?
sharp meteor
so they just gave more rating for wins ?
okay so there's basically an avg mmr
and over the course of the season they'd bump it up
to the point where you'd queue up and play 10 games and randomly be 2300 mmr
similar to now with shuffle
noble stream
I know I can use a WA for this, but is there any way I can keep my <Sudden Death> spell alert without flooding my screen with healing and damage received numbers?
mystic prairie
AdvancedInterfaceOptions addon lets you disable spell alerts but keep healing
noble stream
that's the opposite of what I want
mystic prairie
and the other way around
sharp meteor
Advanced should let you tweak it, ye.
noble stream
it's not here, and there's no cvar for it either
mystic prairie
Slightly above there's Healing
mystic prairie
/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 0
noble stream
like I said, that's just on target
it's not selffloatingcombattext
guess the answer is no then, what a weird oversight
mystic prairie
hmm, weird
I know I had no healing when I installed WoW and I had to use CVARs to enable it
spice hornet
3k shuffle 1700 3s DH LF partners for glad push 3s pst no shitters
sharp meteor
everybody who wanted shuffle because it wouldn't be gatekeepey
gonna refuse to play with people
torpid roost
Tbf people are really weird and... gatekeepy about the whole fucking game
near delta
3k shuffle 1700 3s DH LF partners for glad push 3s pst no shitters
The number of peeps I see in LFG that are like 2.5 XP in their note that are like rival otherwise is too damn high
near delta
Tbf people are really weird and... gatekeepy about the whole fucking game
Ye. Can't think of too many other games you have to send people a resume to play the game. lol
cerulean pecan
Who's not taking ignore pain?
swift folio
fury warriors
thick reef
sharp meteor
we dont take ignore pain anymore?
hmm
flat tide
This is true
lucid walrus
The number of peeps I see in LFG that are like 2.5 XP in their note that are lik...
just make sure your xp is the same in all 3
sharp meteor
That's quite reasonable. 
mild thunder
i just copy mud™️
rich gust
does anyone know where can i get an arms build for SS?
the ones pinned say they're outdated
can't import them
quick carbon
u could u know
Go to arena ladder
Copy paste talent profiles
From the highest warriors
mild thunder
does anyone know where can i get an arms build for SS?
ones in pins work fine
cursive pike
fury bros... how you doin?
quick carbon
imagine being a healer thinking oh yay I won’t get blind sapped anymore
Only to get stunned into blind into sap
rogues will remain bonkers broken beyond belief
#thewayitshouldbe
stark eagle
mild thunder
Only to get stunned into blind into sap <:keks:936231610850897992>
dont think they even need to stun, they'll just gouge > blind > sap
quick carbon
isn’t gouge on sap dr
mild thunder
or they all start running shadow dance so they can cs the healer and kidney dps
mild thunder
isn’t gouge on sap dr
actually idk, probs
quick carbon
Wym running shadow dance as if every rogue isn’t sub right now anyway
mild thunder
im not american, im not on twitter
mild thunder
we can dream 
i have a feeling sub isnt even gonna get nerfed
look how long it took for assa nerfs
quick carbon
Blizzard isn’t gonna nerf it
Rogues the main character of wow
one of the three specs HAS to be broken
It’s just the way the game is
mild thunder
literal fact
unfortunately
same as mage
and lock
and warrior, usually
arms is almost always viable, but usually not as OP as rogue
simple rock
tried queueing arms ss 3 nights in a row and I couldn't get a pop in 40mins all 3 times 
imagine trying to play the game
I should play fire mage or something maybe i'll get queues then
indigo barn
Would rating decay be a good idea for SS, make it so people don't sit at higher ranks and making ques shorter?
lethal sandal
guys is it true, that if you play a popular spec, like arms, your queue times will be higher than if you would play fury at the same rating? i heard a rumor that the queue system trys to avoid putting more than one of each spec against each other. is there any truth to it?
for example my queue times at 1800 fury would be lower than my queue times as 1800 arms because there are so much more arms at 1800 than fury players
sharp meteor
Yes.
By how much? Dunno.
Queues can kind of vary widely. Had an instant pop the other day at like 2200ish as Arms.
sharp meteor
You can still get double and maybe even triple...? lobbies but in general it tries to avoid duplicates.
mild thunder
Would rating decay be a good idea for SS, make it so people don't sit at higher ...
rating decay never feels good in any game
stark eagle
can definitely get tripple, have had it happen
mild thunder
just makes you feel forced to play even if you've already achieved what you wanted
sharp meteor
Would rating decay be a good idea for SS, make it so people don't sit at higher ...
So they said they could do that but thought it felt bad so they went with inflation which slowly pushes everybody up and discourages sitting
mild thunder
rating decay is just a bad system, full stop
stark eagle
do many competitive games use a decay system?
sharp meteor
idk but i also don't know how it'd improve wow
all it'd really do is shit on low-mid mmr who don't queue enough
if it's only active at high mmr well they already play a lot
mild thunder
^
sharp meteor
like in sinful we didn't have to play a game to upgrade gear right because it was bugged to be "one week"
having to win that 1 game when they fixed it
was just an annoyance
mild thunder
"oh, you're a full-time worker with a family and kids that plays on weekends? lmao, hope you enjoy losing your rating every week, bud"
stark eagle
yeah, Considering we get that from just playing already
dont need to stack the rating losses haha
mild thunder
for those players it just means that every week they're chasing down the same goal instead of seeing week-to-week progression
rapid shard
Hey guys, is spear build or bleed build easier? (New player here)
sharp meteor
roar is easier
although it is good to be somewhat familiar with spear
as well as both warlords and blademaster
rapid shard
Honestly have no clue what you mean by roar
Brand new wow player
Just currently setting up my build
neat delta
Honestly have no clue what you mean by roar
rapid shard
Trying to figure out why "ignore pain" isn't on murlok io spec talents list
rapid shard
Ohhhh I see, couldn't see it before haha
Should I be getting ignore pain?
I dont see it anywhere on murlok io but it's basically required to get it in order to unlock the next set of skills
cursive pike
fury bros are u stacking haste or mastery
lucid walrus
Should I be getting ignore pain?
any worthwhile build will run it
straight up no opportunity cost
rapid shard
any worthwhile build will run it
Cool just making sure. It's weird that it's nowhere to be found on murlok
lucid walrus
yeah, somebody mentioned seeing that earlier
you're right to ask the question though. it'd be bizarre if anyone passed it up
rapid shard
Is it just me or do we have a tonnn of buffs, like im trying to find new places to put them on my bar lmao
I've counted like 9..? So far
lucid walrus
something that helped me a lot when redoing keybinds was throwing less-used buttons on less valuable/readily accessible keys
my numpad is mostly interface stuff plus battle shout for instance
rapid shard
Ya, I just have no idea which ones are less valuable besides stances and the shout
lucid walrus
stuff like whirlwind is rarely ever used, although WW does have a use case
if it's like challenging shout or shield abilities or something you're fine to leave those out
rapid shard
Good to know. On other classes I usually put my buffs on shift 1 - 5
But uh...war has way more
lucid walrus
what are you counting as a buff? i'm just curious tbh
rapid shard
Like uh self enhancing stuff, anything you cast on yourself
Sweeping strikes, sharpen blade
Rallying cry
rapid shard
Ya im trying to figure out what goes after what etc
A site said warrior was very easy
But im not feeling it lmao
lucid walrus
warrior is a relatively easy class to understand as far as doing damage is concerned. a lot of its skill cap comes into play defensively
if you're brand new to the game, the issue is that the game in general isn't easy to figure out
rapid shard
Ya im pretty new..I guess 2 weeks
But now im trying out warrior
Dh and bm are my others but they're not for me
But I will say dh and bm were way easier to understand or at least key ind
Bind*
lucid walrus
all pretty good beginner classes
rapid shard
Would you mind telling me generally how I'd start a damage combo? I cant seem to find any sure fire guides
lucid walrus
depends a lot on what build you're running
rapid shard
Every pvp guide I see someone is running something different.
Right now I'm running the bleed build
lucid walrus
hmm. i don't play that one so i won't be much help
scarlet flame
generally you want to keep MS on CD, if its on CD overpower is your go to, when execute lights up from sudden death and mortal strike is on CD use it, use warbreaker when you have things ready to use after it like MS or execute
rapid shard
What about rend?
scarlet flame
keep it active
lucid walrus
rend is kept up as often as you can manage
bleed build feels weird bc you're popping them with skullsplitter and waiting 2 globals to get them both back up
rapid shard
Hmmmm I feel so lost 😞
scarlet flame
ignore the last statements from me and endo lmao
if you're brand new the thing you want to practice is MS on cd, overpower, execute
rapid shard
I dont think I even have splitter hahah
scarlet flame
yeah dont worry about it
rapid shard
Impending Victory is super important im assuming too
scarlet flame
nope
rapid shard
Can I just yeet it
scarlet flame
trash ability
scarlet flame
ive seen people use it and not use it
its heal is actually kind of underwhelming most of the time but it is a heal so
scarlet flame
what the top wars are doing might not work that well until you climb up near those games tbh lol
rapid shard
Trueeee
scarlet flame
bitter is good but its not as good as impending
rapid shard
Just figured it's my best shot haha
scarlet flame
i use it cause its like 60k your healer doesn't have to heal you and it might save you
sharp meteor
Is bitter immunity valuable
meh
it can be good for ripping off an empowered curse on your go
but other than that it feels kind of weak
rapid shard
Maybe I could use it later. For right now I'm trying to reduce the amount of buttons I have til I learn some haha
scarlet flame
like headache said its kinda weak
sharp meteor
the heal is very weak when aggro damp + ms
it doesn't remove magic/bleeds, which are usually the important things
rapid shard
Sorry about all these noob questions
scarlet flame
dont be sorry about asking questions dawg
rapid shard
I'm sure it's not your guys fav thing to talk about
scarlet flame
how are you supposed to get better at something without asking
sharp meteor
it has potential but u can skip until more familiar
arms i feel like has a handful of flex points u can shuffle around between rounds
scarlet flame
^
rapid shard
Well usually I watch videos so I dont have to pelt people with questions but im finding the videos differ so much thats it's confusing me
scarlet flame
theres a lot you can mess around with as arms right now
and in some situations some things might not be good to take but since you're just starting out its good to keep everything simple
rapid shard
Could you tell me generally what buff abilities I want to line up before a "go"
lucid walrus
I'm sure it's not your guys fav thing to talk about
people are way too hard on new players ngl
rapid shard
Like avatar etc
scarlet flame
you're spear build right?
rapid shard
people are way too hard on new players ngl
I genuinely was scared to come in here and ask questions. Last time I did that in another discord people ripped into me
scarlet flame
fuck that other discord then
rapid shard
you're spear build right?
I'm bleed, I was told its easier
scarlet flame
are you BS bleed or reck bleed talent
like when you hit avatar do you bs or get reck
rapid shard
I dont think I'm far enough into talents to know yet
I'm level 60
When I hit avatar, I just get the dmg buff from it
scarlet flame
yeah ok thats early then
scarlet flame
i like both LOL
rapid shard
Lmao
scarlet flame
at level 60 probably the reck talent tho
rapid shard
I know what bladestorm is but I dont even know what reck is
lucid walrus
reck is recklessness
rapid shard
Ya reckless, no clue what it does haha
lucid walrus
if you're running warlord's torment then it's the thing that makes you red when you press colossus smash
scarlet flame
damage buff
lucid walrus
20% crit chance and double rage gen
rapid shard
Ahh so it's just a buff, not a skill
rapid shard
Gotchaaaa
I won't be doing bgs or anything til 70 but I like to pick my pvp build at 60, then practice with it open world while leveling til 70
So by the time I'm 70 I'm kinda familiar
scarlet flame
good plan, can also just attack target dummies to get familiar with your buttons
rapid shard
First I have to learn which buttons I press first haha
Ok so let's say I pick reck
What would my buff-then dps rota be
scarlet flame
what level do you get access to sharpen blade
lucid walrus
you have it by 60 for sure
rapid shard
I have it
scarlet flame
probably something like op 2 times to get MS buff, sharpen > CS > MS > avatar > roar > ms if you have another
rapid shard
I have it as a pvp talent
scarlet flame
yeah its a pvp talent i just didn't remember when you get it lol
rapid shard
Oh haha I have no clue
scarlet flame
you wana sharpen ms before your burst because it makes your MS effect 50% instead of 25%
rapid shard
Gotcha ^^ bare with me I'm just reading over your combo
May I ask why avatar after MS?
scarlet flame
first ms to apply debuff to make rest of your burst harder to heal through
rapid shard
(I just assumed my dmg is on ms so I'd want to boost it)
scarlet flame
basically the start of your burst makes it harder to heal through, you use CS because it boosts your damage, then you use avatar to actually start your burst window
op first to just boost ms damage why not, but sharpen before you start your burst so when you do your damage its harder to heal through
rapid shard
Got it 😀 thanks a ton for all the explanation
Easily the best new player feedback I've gotten
rapid shard
🤣
I noticed that people complain about others shying away from pvp
And then like..as a new player I had asked about some basics of my class
And I just got shit on
scarlet flame
pvp is hard to get into man shits hard now
idk how someone could read "hey i just started playing 2 weeks ago can someone help with the basics of the game and the class" and shit on them
ive played for years im fine if someone shits on me for being bad i have no excuse but someone who just started can't know shit LOL
rapid shard
I didnt understand it either, they told me to go watch guides and what not..and I have, I've watched a tonnnnnn of guides but some stuff isn't explained well enough
Like "why do I use this etc"
They just tell you. Do this, do this
scarlet flame
ive never been able to learn much from guides myself
rapid shard
And I want to understand the why, so it links better
scarlet flame
i spent years back in the day watching and reading guides trying to learn but im dumb as shit so that doesn't work for me
rapid shard
Lmao I literally watch guides every single day
But today when starting my warrior I just couldn't find info that majority were following so it made me unsure
scarlet flame
since you're just starting dont worry too much about why you do something or whats better at higher levels
just start out trying to hit your buttons in the right order
rapid shard
Yup I shall do that
One more thing
I like open world pvp a ton, and bgs
Let's saying fighting anyone that's not a healer
So I dont have to worry about dampening their healing
scarlet flame
most classes now have some form of healing
scarlet flame
think of op as filler ability
you have a talent called tactician that gives you a % per rage spent to reset its CD so its up a lot
MS is your bread and butter ability so you want to use it over anything else when its off CD
rapid shard
Op, Ms and execute will be my most used right?
scarlet flame
execute less so because over a % of health you can't use it outside of a sudden death proc
scarlet flame
i dont personally think so because execute hits like a noodle, but id use it over op when lower than the %
rapid shard
Woah no shit
scarlet flame
its crits are nice but ive had a whole bunch of times im spaming it on people and its just hitting like 25k lol
like using it 6-7 times in a row and it just doesn't drop them
rapid shard
When it lights up, and it's not under the 35% hp. Does it still get the bonus
scarlet flame
wym bonus
scarlet flame
yeah thats the proc
rapid shard
Is the dmg value the same as if they are 35%
scarlet flame
yeah
rapid shard
Gotcchaaa
scarlet flame
well okay its as if you spent 40 rage
scarlet flame
nah
scarlet flame
you have a talent called exhilarating blows that lets MS have a 20% chance to reset its own CD and sometimes it procs like 3-4 times in a row
scarlet flame
hit my peak tonight in nonstop triple wizard lobbies
teach the dress people a lesson
woeful solstice
you have a talent called exhilarating blows that lets MS have a 20% chance to re...
this is basically crack cocaine for me when it happens
scarlet flame
preach
woeful solstice
3+ in a row is just NUT
rapid shard
Lmaoo alright
scarlet flame
the op buff is just something nice lol
rapid shard
So prio is MS-Exe-OP
scarlet flame
when you get better/more comfortable you can use it in your burst windows and shit
but for now its just a nice damage bonus on MS imo lol
rapid shard
Is BS part of my burst window
scarlet flame
not with your talents
woeful solstice
pvp is kinda weird, you loosely follow dps rotation
every global you spend has to fit for the situation
it is good to follow some type of priority for damage though
and for that it depends on if you're running EP or something
scarlet flame
yeah he just started
rapid shard
New to the whole game XD
woeful solstice
but definitely make sure MS debuff NEVER drops
woeful solstice
New to the whole game XD
run while you can
scarlet flame
he still has his new player smell
scarlet flame
outside
woeful solstice
who tricked you into playing this
rapid shard
YouTube >.>
scarlet flame
rapid shard
Lmao
woeful solstice
wow pvp is definitely unique and nothing can replicate it
but the learning curve is hell. enjoy the ride
scarlet flame
just as a warning tho
woeful solstice
ive been getting "serious" about pvp since like legion/bfa and its just now starting to really click together for me
im probably going to glad this season for my first time
rapid shard
So uhhhhh what exactly goes in my burst window then besides titan, CS, op,ms, exe
scarlet flame
you might get totally shit on by some stuff
woeful solstice
you might get totally shit on by some stuff
hes going to get dumpstered
scarlet flame
like if you're fighting a ranged class its really hard to 1v1 them
rapid shard
Heheh
scarlet flame
learning how to fight vs ranged classes in arena (when its solo melee vs wizards) or in open world its really frustrating
like quit the game frustrating
woeful solstice
heres something you should internalize early on
dont stare at your action bars
set up your binds and stuff and be so comfortable that your character is like an extension of you
rapid shard
Be the game
scarlet flame
if you're looking at the bars you're not looking at whats going on around you
rapid shard
True
woeful solstice
yep WoW is an information game
for pvp
knowing who has what available / whats being used at any moment is how you win
rapid shard
Not sure if you saw my message above
woeful solstice
yes pumping dmg is a big deal as dps but that needs to be automatic
rapid shard
So uhhhhh what exactly goes in my burst window then besides titan, CS, op,ms, exe
I copy and pasted it lmao
scarlet flame
what is titan you mean avatar?
rapid shard
Oh ya sorry
scarlet flame
roar because you're playing it
woeful solstice
depends on if you're taking warlords or blademasters torment
scarlet flame
he took warlords
woeful solstice
in that case it's ava -> csmash/warbreaker into cleaves -> press all your buttons
rapid shard
I want whatever is for dumb people
woeful solstice
also you should be thinking if your "go" is into a cleave
press sweeping as youre approaching rather than burning a global in the thick of it
scarlet flame
i think you should keep it a bit more simple for someone whos this new LOL
rapid shard
Lmao
woeful solstice
lol ya prob
scarlet flame
hes not even level 70 yet
rapid shard
Tanda gets it
woeful solstice
oh wtf
scarlet flame
rapid shard
I'm 60!
woeful solstice
grand scaffold
you have a talent called exhilarating blows that lets MS have a 20% chance to re...
you know whats crazy
lucid walrus
im probably going to glad this season for my first time
unironically gl with this season in particular
grand scaffold
going 3 times in a row is 0.8% chance and happes very often
woeful solstice
unironically gl with this season in particular
ty i have a cheese comp that is working really well surprisingly
scarlet flame
yup
rapid shard
What is warbreaker?
lucid walrus
are you the one that was running arms/ppal?
scarlet flame
warbreaker is AoE CS
woeful solstice
are you the one that was running arms/ppal?
scarlet flame
disgusting
woeful solstice
me and my prot pala
talking shit
after winning against RMP like it was nothing
scarlet flame
What is warbreaker?
so it will be a little more confusing LOL sorry, warbreaker you want to use into comps that you can hit at the same time with sweeping strikes, which makes your single target abilities hit extra for less damage
no
lucid walrus
blunt instruments is fine if it's the one i think it is
grand scaffold
What is warbreaker?
a typically useless talent
woeful solstice
you take blunt if you anticipate nuking single target and warbreaker if you're fighting into cleaves
and want to cleave as well
but ya blunt is usually better
depends on your comp too
rapid shard
For a general use noob thing, blunt sounds better
scarlet flame
it is
woeful solstice
if you have cc that is broken by dmg definitely go blunt
woeful solstice
just sweeping strikes colossus smash
this too
rapid shard
Ok ill use blunt til im not brain cell negative
lucid walrus
blunt makes it to where you literally can't whiff colossus
woeful solstice
that too
scarlet flame
man i've wiffed some smashes and i've wanted to leave the game out of embarrassment
grand scaffold
the thing i dont like about warbreaker
rapid shard
So I want to SS - CS
scarlet flame
just jump out my window
grand scaffold
is somebody can move away and it wont hit
or they can disarm you can you accidentally press it
scarlet flame
So I want to SS - CS
SS something you want to do generally befor eyou get to your target
so you charge, and while you're in the animation you use SS
rapid shard
Neato burrito
I feel like a new born puppy trying to learn a trick but losing braincells in 5 minutes
And running away
scarlet flame
the learning curve is steep
woeful solstice
ya wow is brutal because you have to know what other classes are capable of
rapid shard
I'm telling you it's the million warrior self buffs that's getting me
woeful solstice
not only do you need to be very comfortable with your character but know other classes
rapid shard
BM and DH were so incredibly easy for me to grasp
woeful solstice
I'm telling you it's the million warrior self buffs that's getting me
like what?
scarlet flame
well what are the buffs thats bothering you
woeful solstice
you mean modifiers?
i need to get my shotgun weakaura working again for EP
fun times
rapid shard
Less of like..what the buffs do..more that there are like 9 of them
And thats a lot of buttons
scarlet flame
in most situations you're only using them once
pvp fights dont really go on long enough to use them more than once outside of sharpen
grand scaffold
bm and dh are most likely easiest classes in the game
if you are new ide recommend playing bm hunter
not warrior
rapid shard
What defensive buffs should I use together or should I spread them out dictating the situation
woeful solstice
warrior hits the sweet spot of having enough stuff to do and a decent skill ceiling potential
but not be something excessively complex
rapid shard
bm and dh are most likely easiest classes in the game
I was playing thrm but they're just not for me tbh
grand scaffold
fair enough
woeful solstice
go survival hunter
grand scaffold
have you tried playing surv?
scarlet flame
usually you dont want to overlap defensive abilities
rapid shard
Yes and I hated it the most lmao
scarlet flame
i can't speak for other classes because i only play warrior
scarlet flame
what about it was putting you off
woeful solstice
oh boys we got a live one here
grand scaffold
have you tried mage?
woeful solstice
a newborn warrior
scarlet flame
warrior 1v1 is kinda rough lol
woeful solstice
whats ur bench @rapid shard
rapid shard
And I found with hunter was great in bursts
grand scaffold
mage is literally a menace
rapid shard
whats ur bench <@1007273351682736208>
In real life? Lmao
scarlet flame
you probably will never win vs a mage or hunter
woeful solstice
In real life? Lmao
yes
rapid shard
Like 265 lbs why haha
scarlet flame
rapid shard
Thanks 🤣🤣🤣
woeful solstice
potentially a dk as well
muted surge
Like 265 lbs why haha
Then stick to war
scarlet flame
cant be a paladin because you haven't cried yet
woeful solstice
LOL
muted surge
Don’t listen to ndogo
rapid shard
I cry every night
woeful solstice
try dk too
scarlet flame
you can cry at night alone thats fine
rapid shard
So my problem with hunter was people were out-living me in open world
woeful solstice
its a bit heavier in a kit though
more stuff to press
like 500000 globals before you do anything
muted surge
So my problem with hunter was people were out-living me in open world
War is worse
scarlet flame
yeah
woeful solstice
So my problem with hunter was people were out-living me in open world
warrior literally needs a pocket healer to survive
scarlet flame
warrior gets shit on by ranged in open world
lucid walrus
warrior does not, or at least should not win 1v1s
woeful solstice
lol this skirm lobby
rapid shard
Lmao
scarlet flame
hey thats a porno
woeful solstice
rapid shard
But nah Wars weren't my problem. It was like shamans..Locks and mages
They'd just out live me
scarlet flame
well hunters hard counter mages and warlocks
rapid shard
Then im just dog ass
scarlet flame
so i think you were either not geared or doing something wrong
scarlet flame
probably a combo of it then yeah
woeful solstice
open world is very gear dependent
also its not a place to really judge how a class plays
too many variables
scarlet flame
also your honor gear doesn't scale in open world
rapid shard
True
scarlet flame
so you're not 411 you're like 380 or some shit
woeful solstice
if ur brand new to the game i recommend just playing a few classes you think sound fun
run some bgs
see what clicks
rapid shard
Tbh..classes that are fun to me is any class that shits on the rest in open world...that isn't a rogue or a feral
woeful solstice
i dont want to be a damper on your party but the odds of hitting 1800 in solos on your first toon this late in season are slim if you want elite armor set
scarlet flame
i think hunters are the best for open world stuff lol
rapid shard
I did reallllly well as a hunter in bgs and epics
woeful solstice
so id spend this time just learning and feeling the game out
are you wanting to arena or just world pvp/battlegrounds?
that makes a huge diff too
scarlet flame
yeah
lucid walrus
lol this skirm lobby
wait are you the kiggs from like
rapid shard
World pvp and bgs
lucid walrus
bfa skyhold?
woeful solstice
wait are you the kiggs from like
yes haha
rapid shard
Arena only for conquest for gear
woeful solstice
im back
scarlet flame
then id really try to figure out hunter
because hunters imo are kings of bgs and open world
rapid shard
So I played marksman right. Had a lot of fun but I found out my damage to be pretty shite compared to like other ones I've seen on YouTube
scarlet flame
marksman hunter damage is absolutely crazy
so you were probably doing something wrong lol
woeful solstice
ok i can change my nickname on server now finally
rapid shard
And im not sure what I'm doing wrong
rapid shard
YA IT WAS LOL
scarlet flame
they been cunts since they could take 2h weapons from warriors
rapid shard
But ya idk if its just my gear or what on my hunt but I'm not hitting near the numbers that others are
scarlet flame
i would bet its just gear
grand scaffold
i think they should let arms use 2 1h
scarlet flame
i could not disagree more
grand scaffold
why
scarlet flame
in fact arms should have TG
grand scaffold
1h look cool
scarlet flame
i am the master of 2h weapons why does fury get 2 of them
rapid shard
I swear when a war caught my hunter in open world I got absolutely shredded
Like fuggin cheese
scarlet flame
gotta kite
warrior will 100% destroy people if they get uptime
but getting uptime is hard vs hunters and mages
woeful solstice
I swear when a war caught my hunter in open world I got absolutely shredded
gear man
scarlet flame
locks a little lesser but i think its easier
scarlet flame
honestly i think you'd do well trying to get the epic gear and upgrading it for open world pvp
on the hunter
lucid walrus
trying to gauge how you like a class, especially in pvp, before 70 is kind of a fool's errand
rapid shard
7 of my pieces on hunter are conquest
scarlet flame
you got enchants and gems?
rapid shard
418 pvp ilevel
lucid walrus
that's a pretty solid start
scarlet flame
the 418 doesn't matter in open world
scarlet flame
no fuck kultiran
woeful solstice
i refuse to go back to orc next patch
rapid shard
It should in war mode right?
scarlet flame
i dont want to go horde 😦
no
it only scales in bgs and arenas
in open world you're sol
rapid shard
Oh fugg
rapid shard
Mine?!
scarlet flame
thought it was you flexing your leg
scarlet flame
lol
mild thunder
barf
scarlet flame
😠
mild thunder
fem orc>>>>>>
scarlet flame
yeah thats why i made the face
mild thunder
fem orc>fem human>male orc>gnome>anything
scarlet flame
tell me why gnomes and goblins can be warriors
woeful solstice
my alt was gnome but i swapped to nelf to experiment against caster lobbies
scarlet flame
what that gremlin mfer doing to anyone
rapid shard
So pve gear is better than pvp gear in open world pvp...
rapid shard
I'm going to kms.
woeful solstice
LOL
mild thunder
no
scarlet flame
not in open world
mild thunder
it doesnt scale in open-world, it scales in pvp combat in the open world
scarlet flame
it only scales in bgs and arenas
violet fossil
Yes
mild thunder
in open world pvp combat
mild thunder
but technically the best OWpvp gear is a mix of conq and trophy gear
to get both set bonuses
violet fossil
ive never noticed that
yeah when you activate wm, your trinket bonus activates but your gear doesn’t scale
but as soon as you hit someone it goes up
mild thunder
^
scarlet flame
ive done a whole lot of world pvp but ive never noticed lmao
rapid shard
I thought I was going crazy.
scarlet flame
good to know
violet fossil
ye
muted surge
Does the drake set work in instanced pvp?
rapid shard
So war is really that bad in open world pvp?
grand scaffold
skip to 4:34 in the video
rapid shard
Thats a real kick in the nuts for me ya know
grand scaffold
yeah
grand scaffold
warr in world pvp is awful
rapid shard
Reeeeee
scarlet flame
okay solo wpvp
grand scaffold
unless you play prot
scarlet flame
if you have a healer its pretty good
grand scaffold
prot really good in world pvp
rapid shard
I'm talking purely solo
scarlet flame
then almost the worst
rapid shard
Hello darkness my old friend..
rapid shard
Why u do dis
scarlet flame
gotta compensate for how massive our balls are
scarlet flame
the small shaft comes from playing a hunter and dh before you picked up warrior
rapid shard
Jesus I hope this won't pass to my children 🙏
scarlet flame
just hope they dont play paladin and you'll be fine
rapid shard
I will forbid it
I'm a simple man..all I want is to be able to kill every class in wpvp relatively easily
scarlet flame
well i've got full conq gear and 4 set and i kill everyone in wpvp pretty easily
its just when you find someone who knows how to play their class you kinda get shit on
well not kinda you just get shit on
violet fossil
Does the drake set work in instanced pvp?
No
muted surge
Thought so, so people lied to me in rbg :(
rancid nymph
And fun too
grand scaffold
people make it harder than it’s supposed to be
that is literally what makes rbg's hard
wooden grove
RBGs are easy if people know their class and listen to the lead but that’s the same for any high level content tbf
1800+ RBG is usually more down to team comp and strats than anything else
Some of the most savage shit is when RBG teams have to trim the fat in order to push higher
Lots of drama there
wheat jay
its getting loinger by the day xD
violet fossil
That’s what she said
wheat jay
still no q
mild thunder
rbg's hard af to play
rbgs are easy af
the hard part is finding an rbg guild that isn't retarded
mild thunder
what're you rerolling s2?
wheat jay
i dunno
back to survi i guess
i dont rly enjoy any other classes haha
dk/ret are too immobile
ill maybe check ret after rework
dk i hate ujnholy, i only like frost which is shit right now
xD
i might go full survi again
for both pve and pvp
mild thunder
bomb spam 
mild thunder
i hate proc fishing
in saying that, i played ww in m+ end of SL
which is just proc city lmao
wheat jay
ill see the sets
warr is good but i didnt feel too much fun this tier
maybe cuz i wasnt rly pushing
also
most important thing
me swapping hunter is 100% reliant
on orc racial being redesigned like blizz promised
xD
mild thunder
did they promise that?
mild thunder
link or gtfo
green lintel
Warri feels so useless against caster cleaves. Warlocks, hunters and mages seems impossible to kill idk
or mby im just bad lmao
wheat jay
i deffo like belf more
mild thunder
ww with song sounds cool
mild thunder
i deffo like belf more
barf
wheat jay
wheat jay
and i even got the sword hehe
mild thunder
for warr
wheat jay
i like it
tho i like next tier better
and more than anything
OPEN WORLD GEAR BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mild thunder
worse blackhand
wheat jay
this is more interesting
mild thunder
all i care about is ashkandi
mild thunder
yea not bad at all
wheat jay
both plate and mail
haha
or maybe ill stay on warr
ehhh i dunno 😦
pvp 100% will be hunter
as always
mild thunder
you're eu, right?
wheat jay
ye
wheat jay
why rip lol
mild thunder
kitty
mild thunder
dude id get like 400ms on eu haha
mild thunder
mild thunder
wait isnt your warrior karg?
wheat jay
yes
wheat jay
should i ask mud to come eu?
mild thunder
yes
mild thunder
get mud to heal us on kfc
mild thunder
is SEA dead?
wheat jay
wasnt it always dead?
mild thunder
probs
quick carbon
I’m trying to make shockwave the new warrior meta
muted surge
Ye with the 1 sec stun
proud ether
are the changes live?
wheat jay
no
heavy crown
hi guys i want to do random bg's on horde side but i cant seem to interact with sergent wilson, any reason why ?
mild thunder
disarm protection pls
hard lynx
hi guys i want to do random bg's on horde side but i cant seem to interact with ...
too many ppl doing that already makes u unable to do it
grand scaffold
the hard part is finding an rbg guild that isn't retarded
that is whats hard about rbg's
you need 10 somewhat smart people
to be playing at the same time you are playing
and to pick to play with you
elfin surge
wheat jay
<a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
Kfc in 10.1?
elfin surge
Kfc in 10.1?
eu scum
wheat jay
I'll take that as a yes
scarlet barn