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#pvp
limber relic
All classes getting massivly nerfed but warr getting slightly buffed
Also warr fear stil 8s
Wat
quick carbon
warrior is taking a nerf lmao
limber relic
😂
limber relic
warrior is taking a nerf lmao
How
quick carbon
crit nerf is a sizeable nerf to warrior
limber relic
Ah didnt see the crit nerfs
quick carbon
ur winning as warrior mostly because you crit someone and go
grand scaffold
Ah didnt see the crit nerfs
😦
quick carbon
GET FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED LMAO
all these wizard buffs are also
Warrior nerfs
Warrior already struggled into them
Now they’re more oppressive than ever
the best melee r probably going to be dh/dk because they have anti caster tools
but even then dk prob worse off
with asphyx blind nerf
quick carbon
warrior is gonna be absolutely unplayable into frost mage so
green wyvern
crit is dead
grand scaffold
imagine thinking ur gonna have uptime on mages to even make the bleed build work
i do lmao
unique fox
whats funny is they already tried precognition in season 3 shadowlands
quick carbon
DISPELLING NOVA HERE HE HAS FREEDOM GOOD LUCK HITTING HIM
quick carbon
yes
quick carbon
they have 2 blinks do they not lmao
Imagine thinking ur melee partners gonna be able to touch the mage either
Kekw
quick carbon
U get Bermuda triangled
limber relic
Its gna be annoying but not that bad tbh
quick carbon
mage caster x is gonna just farm warrior
green wyvern
ye
green wyvern
these changes are made
limber relic
Ez
green wyvern
to make casters lives easier
green wyvern
warriors will definitely be weaker
like
have u seen
the interrupt duration
only 3 seconds
now with hpal
its less than 2 seconds
limber relic
Double reflect tho
green wyvern
hpal + caster cleave = rip all warrior cleaves
limber relic
Less cc
green wyvern
they made these changes to make casters good at all skill levels
limber relic
Better than before i guess
quick carbon
Ur putting a longer cd on reflect ur also losing a damage pvp talent for it
Why ever ever ever ever
Play it
Why why why why
green wyvern
its trash
also i rerolled to dh
next season u kick eye beam
dh gets cc immunity
quick carbon
does dh still have perma magic wall
green wyvern
HAHAHAH
fickle forge
About to remove my kick off my bar for S2 😎👍
Flame every Rsham who miss their 2 sec duration kick
quick carbon
I’m not playing if the game goes live like this
gonna be a warhammer 3 main
I refuse to go through bfa part 2
quick carbon
the only way melee r going to be able to win
mild thunder
jesus lukey calm down
quick carbon
Is if they do such unholy levels of damage
mild thunder
malding harder than a rogue rn
quick carbon
That they win off of mana
quick carbon
melee r going to be absolutely dog
green wyvern
not necessarily warrior cleaves
dh got a huge buff
u cant kick eye beam anymore
if u do u give them cc immunity
mild thunder
?
mild thunder
if u do u give them cc immunity
where
grand scaffold
idk if melee gonna have precog
also i would still kick eyebeam
stops majority of their dmg for 3 sec
1 sec of 15% haste is eh
quick carbon
I will not chill on the malding
the interrupt changes are absolutely dogshit
The nerfs to non kidney shot stuns are absolutely dogshit
mild thunder
if orc were nerfed would you stop bitching?
grand scaffold
i dont care about interupt changes
i care about crit nerf
its stupid
crit was fine
unique fox
things will get tuned, dont know why people are worried
quick carbon
if orc were nerfed would you stop bitching?
No
unique fox
blizz is quick to change shit after patches and it'll be taken care of by the time it matters when people have tier set (hopefully)
grand scaffold
not a big deal
🤨
grand scaffold
things will get tuned, dont know why people are worried
this is the tuning lmao
quick carbon
if orc were nerfed, cc would be pretty much exactly the same as on live
The fact that cc is nerfed now is already dumb lmao
mild thunder
this is the tuning lmao
bro it's fucking day 1 of ptr
unique fox
10.1 is months away lol
mild thunder
this is as retarded as malding over an early alpha release
unique fox
the strong will survive
mild thunder
ugh, go play league
unique fox
play a warrior anyways or you're a pussy
mild thunder
people here acting like fury mains
grand scaffold
people here acting like fury mains
quick carbon
I guarantee these changes go live
And then it’s gonna be a m+ parse duel
Every arena
mild thunder
i guarantee your iq is below average
quick carbon
ur trolling
indigo barn
And then it’s gonna be a m+ parse duel
Isn't that every caster lobby?
quick carbon
malding is warranted
mild thunder
malding is never warranted on round 1 of patch notes
quick carbon
we need to mald to show blizzard how awful these ideas are
Or they won’t get reverted
mild thunder
i would absolutely be unsurprised at an orc racial nerf, in which case cc will be pretty much the exact same as on live
only major differences will be kick timers and precog, both of which will be rough for melee but we'll live
constructive feedback =/= malding
limber relic
Crit was 150% in sl right?
quick carbon
no
mild thunder
175
limber relic
Fair
mild thunder
pre-SL was 150
quick carbon
the upside to landing a kick is nowhere near the downside of getting juked
mild thunder
yes precog is just bad design
quick carbon
that’s gonna be awful
mild thunder
i was a little shattered when blizz said they liked how it's going
but
most casters run it anyway
it'll mostly benefit healers
indigo barn
Did the cc changes cover roots?
fickle forge
chill on the malding
Nein, it should be day 0, cause it's 🗑️
indigo barn
My raids and SS
lean island
thanks blizzard
wheat jay
pve player
I meaaaaaan
He ain't wrong 
I sure love me some minigame that gets fucked over and is now casual solo shuffle oriented
limber relic
Ah ye thought so
Didnt rly understood it since ppl dont qna play orc? Lel
I said orc is gna be nice and ppl said DID stil better
😅
Honestly i think the nerfs arent so bad to warrs
Like tbh the interrupt changes wont do much since most casts are instant anyways
wheat jay
Warrior is barely touched by the changes
The rest of the game is heavily impacted
Instead of doing some targeted nerfs to abilities that were too strong blizz just went full retard and nerfed everything
mild thunder
The rest of the game is heavily impacted
hunter and rogue are impacted
most other specs will play roughly the same as on live
wheat jay
Interrupt changes mean a lot, dk cc got basically removed xD
mild thunder
poly is already ~6s
wheat jay
Precog baseline is big for casters
mild thunder
- dk had too much cc anyway
- most casters ran precog anyway
and like whatshisname said, most "casters" barely cast anyway
and have access to multiple schools already
mild thunder
no
limber relic
it rly 6s? 🤔 or am i derping rn
Also why dis
Polymorph duration decreased to 6 seconds in PvP combat (was 8 seconds).
mild thunder
ah ok poly is like ~6.8s on live
so they shave .8s off
oh no
fucking armageddon out here
mild thunder
ehh
limber relic
I mean its 6.8 cuz trinket set bonus
steep inlet
BFA arms with bad crit sucked hard
mild thunder
haste bleed is already very strong for arms
mild thunder
I mean its 6.8 cuz trinket set bonus
yes, and?
mild thunder
warrior is definitely one of the least-touched specs by all this
limber relic
Ah nvm they removing it aswell
Makes sense
limber relic
I think warr is fine ngl
mild thunder
other specs suffer from it more - destro, firemage, ele etc
limber relic
Buffed slightly if anything
mild thunder
ele suffers massively from crit nerf
wheat jay
Does it affect chaos bolt in any way?
mild thunder
yes...
wheat jay
Cuz chaos bolt is weird shit
mild thunder
and shadowburn
steep inlet
You did play arms BFA guys ?
It was terrific bad to play
Haste bleed
i still have ptsd from it
mild thunder
the playstyles arent even similar, troma
limber relic
Or bsx2
steep inlet
Back then
wheat jay
Its not even close to bfa troma
limber relic
Then its not the same
wheat jay
Bruh
limber relic
Warr is fine dw
mild thunder
you're not gonna be seeing top dmg deep wounds
limber relic
I do wna see the new pvp talents tho
wheat jay
Even haste build now you do most dmg with mortal and overpower
mild thunder
Even haste build now you do most dmg with mortal and overpower
yep
wheat jay
Despite bleeds Rolling
limber relic
Ye
mild thunder
only games with rend/deep wounds around top dmg are sks
wheat jay
Ye
limber relic
Lower gcd will b nice anyways
wheat jay
Haste is always more fun cuz its faster
mild thunder
^
wheat jay
And you don't beg rnjesus for big crit like a bitch
limber relic
And spamming ms proc after proc
limber relic
I think no crit whatsoever tbh
mild thunder
arms still gets a lot out of crit
limber relic
Now yes but 10.1 may b diffrent
mild thunder
altho it depends on our set bonus in s2
limber relic
Ye was gna say
mild thunder
even w/o set bonus we'll be doing 175% exe crit dmg
limber relic
They are stupid af if they make crit based set bonus for warr
mild thunder
They are stupid af if they make crit based set bonus for warr
not really? set bonuses are designed for pve and trickle over into pvp... chances are it'll be crit-based
mild thunder
isnt prio rn
it's never sole prio
but it is the identity of the spec, so we always have stuff based around it
plus we get the passive crit% from reck procs, so we dont even have to invest that much to get high crit anyway
limber relic
I mean correct me if im wrong but wasnt all haste op im 9.2?
Or it was like 20% haste rest crit
mild thunder
I mean correct me if im wrong but wasnt all haste op im 9.2?
Was 9.2 battlelord arms?
From pretty much SL to now arms stats are never “this is the best stat”… there’s always preference, builds etc at play
Even for battlelord, crit was very good
Exploiter, most went crit/haste
mild thunder
But yea I defs don’t see a full haste build being that popular for arms
fickle forge
Real Chads played crit+mast
wheat jay
Real Chads played crit+mast
Chad but boring
fickle forge
Chad but boring
Did man kill a sac'd dude with 50% in 1 hit or did he not
Yeah that's right, sit down
mild thunder
i mean yea, technically mast is the only stat that increases our top-end damage
maybe i'll have a haste/mast alt in 10.1
dark sparrow
can u only get the dragonskin from 3's?
it's from gladiator, which is only available from 3s
light temple
shit. well how do u find people for 3's at your level usually? never really done much of it
undone pumice
i mean yea, technically mast is the only stat that increases our top-end damage
tecjnically crit is entirely useless
mild thunder
tecjnically crit is entirely useless
exactly
just crit bro
strafe harder, shake your screen harder, slam your buttons harder
dont stack no mf crit
dark sparrow
shit. well how do u find people for 3's at your level usually? never really done...
Lfg, talk/add people from your shuffles you liked playing with and build from there
undone pumice
strafe harder, shake your screen harder, slam your buttons harder
true true
dont forget whistles and firewater!
mild thunder
Lfg, talk/add people from your shuffles you liked playing with and build from th...
front of stormwind/org too
ive met a few decent players there
altho it's usually a bunch of tryhards
limber relic
Btwbtwbtw
They should remove disarm for casters like dru
Mw monk
Also why is survival getting a disarm
green anchor
remove it from rogues except outlaw
lean burrow
"sticky tar bomb coats enemies weapons in oil disarming them"
green anchor
that sounds so bad
lean burrow
paladin then should be "jesus pulls enemies' weapons out of their hands to heaven, disarming them"
dk "the dead magic pulls the weapons into the ground disarming them"
feral: "you eat enemies' weapon"
faint horizon
What's the benefit to running Skullsplitter vs No Skullsplitter? A bit more burst?
dark sparrow
front of stormwind/org too
I'm alliance on Draenor so SW is dead af last time i checked lmao. so i just go farm shtuff while sitting in q's
lean burrow
What's the benefit to running Skullsplitter vs No Skullsplitter? A bit more burs...
bullying dks
play normal build if you are learning
mild thunder
@wheat jay im so fucking happy hunter is getting gutted, braindead retard spec deserves their easy 13sec cc chain to be destroyed
bm, sv, mm
all degen specs
fuck the lot of you
mild thunder
that's only sbv
sv
and yea it's cringe
more disarms 
ty blizz
casters get precog
and warrior gets more disarms in the game
kekW omg amazing ty wow design much happy
mild thunder
i just lost to braindead bm/prevo in 2s so im malding
lean burrow
best disorient in the game
wheat jay
<@291636646225379328> im so fucking happy hunter is getting gutted, braindead re...
Did some hunters touch you in bad places?
Sadge
scarlet flame
i wont hate SV as much because at least i can hit them
wheat jay
Aoe disarm actually hahaha
wheat jay
Yes xD
mild thunder
i wont hate SV as much because at least i can hit them
you must not be versing good sv hunters
scarlet flame
you must not be versing good sv hunters
i know i punch air vs BM and MM but not as much vs SV
mild thunder
they're just as elusive when played properly
all the same mobility, all the same cc, and they can deal most of their dmg from range
should only be coming in when it's safe
scarlet flame
ive said it for 15 years of wow and ill always stand by it, if you play a ranged class you smell like dirty socks and have mush for brains
warped warren
real
wheat jay
That's why I play melee Hunter
scarlet flame
warped warren
dark sparrow
can you disarm pitlord?
thought i saw the conclusion was no, but maybe with that new sv aoe disarm and blizz spagetthi code
wheat jay
You can disarm demo pet so they can't stun
I think so
mild thunder
also stops their bladestorm
wheat jay
Does it stop warrior bladestorm 👀
Also goes through evasion and cloak apparently
SIKE
green anchor
also stops their bladestorm
wotlk warrior flashbacks 
warped warren
stuck karma
what build would you guys recommend for solo shuff beginner? I rly like the roar no skullsplit build but not sure
wheat jay
Its good
sharp meteor
ya u can just play that every game
wheat jay
Sometimes swap to spear for games where it brings more value
scarlet flame
what ability do elemental shamans have that block attacks?
copper hare
no ability, every class that wears a shield has a suuuper low block chance I think
but block is only reduced dmg or
I don't think you can block full abilities anymore
scarlet flame
probably SS plus unhinged then was in a double ele lobby and they blocked 7 MS
or details is dogshit
copper hare
Blocked dmg is basically like a glance
at least that's how prot warriors block works
copper hare
probably SS plus unhinged then was in a double ele lobby and they blocked 7 MS
yep how I thought it was
scarlet flame
ye i was just asking cause details was giving me this
scarlet flame
so details is shit or
fickle forge
Details is shit
scarlet flame
👍
elfin surge
Turn people into bleeding tampons
shy aurora
warped warren
It's literally
clearly didnt read chat 
thick reef
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
You clearly don't know the wae of applying dots at like 3% and watching them bleed out as they escape you
fickle forge
Sounds like a beta way
Remember my Hpala sat down fully lock DoT'd and on 15% to drink mana
No respect for the DoTs
elfin surge
You clearly don't know the wae of applying dots at like 3% and watching them ble...
just 150k ms them
spear
roar
thick reef
just 150k ms them
MS
Imagine playing Arms
scarlet flame
i dont have to i play arms 🙂
elfin surge
fury 
late nacelle
indigo barn
fury <a:huh:1072539415261499412>
Furry
radiant hamlet
how important is fueled by violence in solo shuffle ?
my choice is between fatality or fueled by violence
playing improved execute and thunderous roaro
undone pumice
nothing brings me as much satisfaction as beating mage lock
bench pr is up there too id say
even better if u did it no spotter
scarlet flame
its close
but the reason beating mage lock is better is because you know those dudes are questioning themselves after
and their healers is tilted
radiant hamlet
how important is fueled by violence in solo shuffle ?
any chad pvp gamer that can answer this
rotund trellis
I mean, very?
stark agate
any chad pvp gamer that can answer this
Well I’d take fatality over fueled.
noble stream
After the previous buffs, I think the damage loss is the talents you're not picking. All they'd need to do is increase the damage bonus a bit, and add a stamina bonus.
They could've also just made it a transmog option from the start and spent zero seconds trying to make this work
sharp meteor
Yeah, for some reason they just want to force people into TG.
But it's super shitty in terms of economy because it costs extra valor/conquest/sparks, etc.
prisma raven
at what rating you get the transmog weapons from pvp ?
rotund trellis
noble stream
you know, I have this warrior alt since cataclysm exists
the only purpose I wanted with it is to play a beastman berserker with claws
13 years, and I still can't do it without gimping myself
at least they're adding the auto shift to human form out of combat, another thing I asked 13 years ago
warm portal
the only purpose I wanted with it is to play a beastman berserker with claws
Enhance shaman
noble stream
can worgens be shamans now?
sharp meteor
No because that'd require making worgen totems. Can use fist weapons on Rogue and soon Monk, though.
radiant hamlet
Well I’d take fatality over fueled.
thanks
rotund trellis
0-6 btw
noble stream
daggers can't be transmogged into fist weapons
so it'd need to be outlaw
and then there's a gun
trust me, I went through this whole thing
13 years having this character for nothing but this theme
and the worst part is that the game taunts me with it
Darius is flagged as a fury warrior
rotund trellis
why do I even play this game anymore lol
green anchor
at what rating you get the transmog weapons from pvp ?
2400
noble stream
is there any high profile pvper complaining about the CC changes that do not play rogue, mage, or warlock?
sharp meteor
Dunno, but hard to speculate on how they'll be considering they're also nerfing crits.
Could be awful. Could be great.
mild thunder
After the previous buffs, I think the damage loss *is* the talents you're not pi...
SMF shouldnt be a talent
at all
fickle forge
>MS
Imagine playing Arms
Anime profile pic
Fury
Likes bleed
It all comes together
mild thunder
it's stupid af lmao
mild thunder
is there any high profile pvper complaining about the CC changes that do not pla...
what're locks complaining about?
fickle forge
is there any high profile pvper complaining about the CC changes that do not pla...
Twitter
mild thunder
i still think people are massively overreacting, and if/when orc gets nerfed, most of the cc changes will simply be reflecting live
sharp meteor
Also need to see what they do with Hardiness.
mild thunder
i cant imagine hardiness goes unnerfed with all these changes
noble stream
what're locks complaining about?
mb I remembered it backwards
warlocks are specifically not complaining because fear isn't reduced
sharp meteor
i cant imagine hardiness goes unnerfed with all these changes
Probs knocked down to like 5% stun reduction or something.
Or 1% if they're feeling cheeky.
grand scaffold
why do I even play this game anymore lol
dude
record your games and post them
like once a week
azure geyser
LMAO like it's of any use
Man it sounds like you are tilt-queueing rn.. Take a small break and come back
Its a marathon not a sprint
rotund trellis
I had 3 shuffles, I mean I work all week I have like 2 hours a week to play
azure geyser
Work on 1 thing at a time
rotund trellis
I take a break what do I do lol
azure geyser
You get a glass of water
rotund trellis
I drink from the bottle, like a dog
azure geyser
look at youtube for 5 minutes
thick reef
I had 3 shuffles, I mean I work all week I have like 2 hours a week to play
Snort coke then and mash Execute
Simple as
rotund trellis
lmao
thick reef
I only give real advice to the homies, and that is as real as it gets
rotund trellis
I mean, i would like to know why I'm so bad, but also I have noone sharing my same experience. I'm old, slow and stupid. But what's frustrating is that it's a constant regression. I get worse instead ofgetting better.
mild thunder
Probs knocked down to like 5% stun reduction or something. <:keks:93623161085089...
5-10% would be fair imo
rotund trellis
I tanked from 1790 to this and i keep losing. i keep changing keybinds cause my fingers are slow and I can't press what i want. i forget to use abilities. I have no awareness. I constantly pick the wrong target
thick reef
Record your gameplay, we have an entire channel dedicated to un-fucking people's shitty warrior moments
thick reef
Or be 500 IQ and just gut Racials entirely
grand scaffold
I tanked from 1790 to this and i keep losing. i keep changing keybinds cause my ...
dude
pick a certain set of keybinds
get used to them
and whats your logic behind picking targets
mild thunder
warrior has one rationale for what to hit - "is it in front of me?"
rotund trellis
haha pretty much
in SS I am not the one who usually die, but other people get nuked in less than 2 seconds.
but I know it's me cause i go always 0-6 or 1-5
thick reef
learn to Intervene/Rallying
learn how to peel
if your caster has 2 melee raping his asshole, chuck out an Intimidating
rotund trellis
I have both of them constantly on cd as i intervene on cd basically lol
thick reef
don't Intervene on CD ffs
rotund trellis
I try to peel off people, but it's just not enough
thick reef
you have to time it
rotund trellis
I don't i mean people go down so fast I basically use it on cd
elfin surge
intervene for mobility only
mild thunder
^
elfin surge
mild thunder
rare mud W
mild thunder
legit tho - intervene and rally are not the reason you'll be losing games at that rating. if you can pull them off, great, but there is probably way more fundamental stuff that needs to be worked on
thick reef
You don't know how many fucking Ele Shammys I have saved from the assfucking they deserved with Intervene
mild thunder
yea it's a great ability, but it's not the reason people are hardstuck <1800
it's like giving an amputated kid a unicycle and telling him "just balance"
rotund trellis
Has the "meta" always been this fast? I am really struggling not gonna lie. PVP is so beautiful and addictive, but I hneslty feel like I'm PHISICALLY slow
thick reef
it's like giving an amputated kid a unicycle and telling him "just balance"
Obviously that cripple is just having a skill issue
elfin surge
Has the "meta" always been this fast? I am really struggling not gonna lie. PVP ...
shadowlands was faster
thick reef
fax
elfin surge
yyup
thick reef
I am this fucking close to rerolling into DH just to snort more Solo Shuffle coke
elfin surge
I am this fucking close to rerolling into DH just to snort more Solo Shuffle cok...
weak.
mild thunder
id rather play dh than fury
elfin surge
I'm currently leveling my 6th warrior.
rotund trellis
I feel stupid cause i don't know what's going on, it's literally too much for me to process. i know I'm new, and I'm not saying it should be easier, I'm just saying that from a new (PVP) player perspective it's really off putting
mild thunder
I'm currently leveling my 6th warrior. <:xeos:945501697847992341>
race?
thick reef
I feel stupid cause i don't know what's going on, it's literally too much for me...
I'm Rival with no addons I dont want to hear it
thick reef
mild thunder
arent like 4 of yourw arriors all orc already?
mild thunder
you need a tauren
elfin surge
real
mild thunder
big, beefy, juicy, medium-rare specimen
mild thunder
I feel stupid cause i don't know what's going on, it's literally too much for me...
yea arenas are kinda aids to get into as a new player
rotund trellis
into elemental destro
warlock
mild thunder
esp if you don't have some sort of transferrable skills from other endgame wow stuff or similar comp games
fickle forge
LMAO like it's of any use
Virgin victimhood mentality
thick reef
WoW PvP is like New York, you make it here, you make it anywhere
fickle forge
Eyo reference
fickle forge
rotund trellis
WoW PvP is like New York, you make it here, you make it anywhere
lol i live in NYC
mild thunder
WoW PvP is like New York, you make it here, you make it anywhere
just the first part 
rotund trellis
into assa rogue arcane mage
rogue
fickle forge
I take it you aren't making it there then
grand scaffold
only swap rogue when you cant hit the mage at all
thick reef
you want to stick to that fucking mage like white on rice
elfin surge
grand scaffold
you want to stick to that fucking mage like white on rice
yah
elfin surge
rotund trellis
into dh arms
dh usually
grand scaffold
dh usually
ok
mild thunder
im focusing on inting
fickle forge
JK I gave him precog cause we both wanted to kick the Penance
grand scaffold
dh usually
if you are playing a melee cleave vs rsham melee cleave
are you hitting a dps?
rotund trellis
are you hitting a dps?
I don't know what melee cleave or shaman melee cleave is lol
thick reef
Wait, is that totem tmoggable?
grand scaffold
I don't know what melee cleave or shaman melee cleave is lol
melee cleave = 2 melee
rsham melee cleave = rsham + melee + melee
elfin surge
Wait, is that totem tmoggable?
future trading post mog item if i had to guess
mild thunder
if you are playing a melee cleave vs rsham melee cleave
imagine focusing one-target and not swapping targets frantically every 2 seconds like a meth addict
rotund trellis
then I go resto shaman
thick reef
future trading post mog item if i had to guess
You bet your fucking ass I'm snagging that for Fury
grand scaffold
then I go resto shaman
ok
elfin surge
@thick reef fury main 
grand scaffold
into ret rogue who are you focusing
thick reef
imagine focusing one-target and not swapping targets frantically every 2 seconds...
I have the new auto-targeting for that
thick reef
<@456226577798135808> fury main <:weird:718676218500874320>
1800 as Fury
elfin surge
arms or be nothing
thick reef
Not great, but getting there
mild thunder
arms or you're not a warrior (mud played fury at start of DF)
snow dock
is bleed build still relevant
grand scaffold
arms or you're not a warrior <:xeos:945501697847992341> (mud played fury at star...
fotm
elfin surge
arms or you're not a warrior <:xeos:945501697847992341> (mud played fury at star...
yea arms unplayable then
mild thunder
i was playing it
rotund trellis
into ret rogue who are you focusing
ret
elfin surge
i was playing it <:xeos:945501697847992341>
mild thunder
pink man fun to hit
elfin surge
pussy rogue run too much
rotund trellis
I mean paladins die earsier and I force cds, then i switch to rogu when paladin id shielded or else
elfin surge
me smash paladin
grand scaffold
I mean paladins die earsier and I force cds, then i switch to rogu when paladin ...
ok good
thick reef
I shatter the bubble then face fuck him
grand scaffold
going paladin also stops dmg
thick reef
simple as
grand scaffold
they have to waste holy power on wog
mild thunder
imagien running shatter
stark agate
Don’t say you spec shatter in here or the mob will get you
elfin surge
grand scaffold
dude you are picking targets right for the most part
mild thunder
can priest pre-MD? yes > cool, no > swap
grand scaffold
into what sort of comps do you have a hard time?
thick reef
Don’t say you spec shatter in here or the mob will get you
Hey man, it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shattered and his cheeks clapped
rotund trellis
into what sort of comps do you have a hard time?
double mage or double evokers, hunters, all range lobbies
stark agate
Lol I’m an advocate of shatter, I just see people talk shit about it a lot
grand scaffold
double mage or double evokers, hunters, all range lobbies
ok
into destro mm hunter
who are you focusing
rotund trellis
mm hunter usually
mild thunder
Hey man, it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shattered and hi...
it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shatt-oh fuck he los'd me
it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shatt-oh fuck i was disarmed
it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shatt-oh fuck it was intervened
it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shatt-oh fuck it took too long and he's full hp
grand scaffold
mm hunter usually
ok
thick reef
it's all fun and games until the pally gets his bubble shatt-oh fuck he los'd me...
just watch for it jfc
elfin surge
yea when a pally bubbles i just attack something else. Keep the dam rolling
mild thunder
time spent casting shatter is almost always better swapping and forcing another cd
fr
rotund trellis
if you are against destro elemental rdru
druid lol
elfin surge
@grand scaffold is a 1300 player dont listen to him
rotund trellis
after burst wyd
move to warlock I think
grand scaffold
😎
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> is a 1300 player dont listen to him
thick reef
grand scaffold
move to warlock I think
ok
so what comps are you picking wrong target in
you only got rogue mage wrong so far
grand scaffold
https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983
😂
rotund trellis
I don't think it'ss a matter of target picking, I think it's a skill issue and situational awareness.
grand scaffold
I don't think it'ss a matter of target picking, I think it's a skill issue and s...
ok
mild thunder
target-selection = awareness
you should almost never be tunneling one target like this
grand scaffold
target-selection = awareness
you should almost never be tunneling one target lik...
dude
you pick a target in start of game right?
mild thunder
one of arms' biggest assets is our incredibly target-swapping
grand scaffold
you obv swap if something gets low or caught behind pillar
rotund trellis
of course
grand scaffold
or they get caught lacking in general
rotund trellis
I use stun on cd or when a kill is close
grand scaffold
nobody said tunnel 1 guy
mild thunder
you pick a target in start of game right?
in 3s, barely
in soloQ, i usually say "let's start X, swap Y on Z etc"
elfin surge
dude solo shuffles are rated skirms just do damage and collect free cr
grand scaffold
in 3s, barely
in soloQ, i usually say "let's start X, swap Y on Z etc"
i agree with second statement
grand scaffold
I use stun on cd or when a kill is close
do you talent into warbanner
mild thunder
this is all massive overload of unnecessary info
rotund trellis
do you talent into warbanner
no, I mean sometimes vs MM unters
mild thunder
banner is not the reason someone cant break 1.8
intervene is not the reason someone cant break 1.8
rally is not the reason someone cant break 1.8
grand scaffold
no, I mean sometimes vs MM unters
ok
mild thunder
it's way more fundamental
grand scaffold
you're gonna want to get warbanner like every game for the most part
mild thunder
because this isn't the gameplay review channel
grand scaffold
if you got a better idea feel free
mild thunder
this is the shitpost after midnight channel
grand scaffold
😂
ruby temple
Good afternoon fellas. Can I get some advice on how to deal with frost mages now a days. I understand the theory save charge for until after they blink but then I feel like I'm doing nothing as they slow/root me. Should I be losing until my stun or heroic leap is up to force blinks?
azure geyser
Okay that was fuckign brutal
grand scaffold
Okay that was fuckign brutal
?
mild thunder
rip bozo
azure geyser
I could engage, get 1-2 of their defensives and then I just ran out of steam
Atleast thats what it feels like
mild thunder
have you tried reducing their hp to 0 before they reduce your hp to 0? i hear it's a very common r1 strat
azure geyser
Even trying to stance dance better and not throwing CDs into their defensives
mild thunder
@rotund trellis have you posted in gameplay-review?
grand scaffold
<@454316580021731328> have you posted in gameplay-review?
he has a while back i think
not recently
rotund trellis
<@454316580021731328> have you posted in gameplay-review?
only for fury
I need to record an arms series
mild thunder
do that
rotund trellis
thing is, i see my errors on replay, but I struggle getting better at mitigating them
grand scaffold
thing is, i see my errors on replay, but I struggle getting better at mitigating...
thats what posting gameplay is for
people tell you what to do instead
mild thunder
im gonna make a few assumptions and say that your rotation needs work, which is the most fundamental thing in pvp. outside of that, properly trading defensives and cross-cc are some of the easiest and first steps you should take in soloQ to rack up wins
but yea post arms games and people will review
grand scaffold
but yea post arms games and people will review
^
mild thunder
if rotation is still a mess, nothing else really matters. no point taking in info you're going to forget/not use until then
compact oak
what's the best way to train rotation? Dummy dummy dummy all day?
rotund trellis
good question
mild thunder
unironically pve lol
rotund trellis
The thing is, i go in panic mode when the rotation gets interrupted constantly
mild thunder
pve until your rotation is automated - shouldn't really be something you have to pay attention to, esp as arms
compact oak
same, @rotund trellis
mild thunder
arena is about playing so many games that you dont think anymore, everything is just muscle-memory and repeating the same decision you've already made 1000 times
compact oak
when I get to the point where rotation is easy, fast and automated, then anything that disrupts that throws my DPS off the cliff
e.g. clash with enemy opener and now I have to pop defensives and chain that with CC when defensives end
the rotation goes from 100% to 5%
rotund trellis
arena is about playing so many games that you dont think anymore, everything is ...
I agree, but playin 6 matches every hour is not gonna train you
mild thunder
yea soloQ is ass lmao
rotund trellis
I think that learning with SS is not working at all
but my guild is a raiding pve guild so i have very few PVP mates
mild thunder
i didnt ask for soloQ, it was cringe streamers that cried for it
fickle forge
SS is the format you're trying to win in, so you can def learn from SS
compact oak
@mild thunder is double DPS in 2v2 really really bad for learning? My buddy doesn't play healers so I mostly play double DPS the games have to be omega fast and end at the first mistake very quickly
mild thunder
double dps 2s is bad for anything
mild thunder
it's not good for anything in current tuning
fickle forge
Whenever off-healing is busted, double dps is a thing for warr
mild thunder
assa meta destroyed double dps
what're you gonna do against deathmark as double dps
and yea hybrid off-healing is shit across the board atm
fickle forge
BoP, cause you're a Chad that Q'd ret+SP 😎 👍
compact oak
Can you recommend how to best find healers to play with you when you're sub-1k rating or 1100 at most?
mild thunder
idk if lfg is alive anymore
compact oak
even more so
where to look for them
otherwise Solo Shuffle is the only option ever
lean burrow
Remember my Hpala sat down fully lock DoT'd and on 15% to drink mana
it doesn't put into combat?
fickle forge
it doesn't put into combat?
Nope
lean burrow
what if hpal gets dotted, walks behind a pillar and begins healing?
fickle forge
No clue, he just sat down and drank up while everyone was dying
Came back out with 20% mana and won us the game
compact oak
it doesn't put into combat?
but damage interrupts drinking
wheat jay
what're you gonna do against deathmark as double dps <:keks:936231610850897992>
I can mend you babe 
woeful solstice
A GLORIOUS WEEKEND OF 200K EXECUTES IS UPON US
woeful solstice
lmao US virgins
cant hear you over the sound of freedom
mild thunder
that's not freedom, that's the gun going off at your local school
woeful solstice
as if there wasnt a shooting in germany yesterday but go off
mild thunder
germany
wheat jay
Germany is too liberal now
latent hazel
guns dont kill people!
wheat jay
They need a new dictator
woeful solstice
who the fuck made this a debate about gun control
i literally said happy friday and you fucktards are turning it into politics
never change retards
mild thunder
They need a new dictator <:keks:936231610850897992>
i know who to call
wheat jay
Y'all remember pre-nuke pvp channel?
woeful solstice
Y'all remember pre-nuke pvp channel?
better than this soy shit
wheat jay
We're coming back to our roots now
woeful solstice
nah we've got a long ways to go
woeful solstice
it was more about mogging dweebs with noodle arms
mild thunder
i literally said happy friday and you fucktards are turning it into politics
my guy, aren't you turning it political? i make school shotting joke, you start with the "europe is just as bad" soy
woeful solstice
my guy, aren't you turning it political? i make school shotting joke, you start ...
brother re-read our convo, moving on
wheat jay
And then we go to wow debate about how na is easier than eu
latent hazel
And then we go to wow debate about how na is easier than eu
ait lets do it
NA 3k is EU 2k
woeful solstice
likely true
mild thunder
brother re-read our convo, moving on
yep, just did
wheat jay
Na glad is eu combatant
mild thunder
na glad is eu first arena match*
wheat jay
@elfin surge you're a duelist at best in eu my guy
woeful solstice
<@269709440146604032> you're a duelist at best in eu my guy
sharp meteor
Everybody in shuffle but nobody wants to heal.
Which is entirely understandable.
Because it's basically healing the people who don't have healers for free.
rotund trellis
I'd love to try healing, but I have only 10 fingers and half a brain
mild thunder
why tf would you want to heal a shuffle lmao
mild thunder
insta queues = insta insanity
woeful solstice
yeah i tried it
leveled paladin, got geared in a few days
i am 2600 on main but hardstuck 1600 on paladin healing LOL
not even the same game its awful
i literally almost punched a hole in my monitor
screaming at morons with 2000 games at 1200 MMR
compact oak
is there a healer spec that's currently significantly more immune to bad players in SS?
Fistweaver? 🫠
rotund trellis
watch a warr leap behind a pillar and spear an elemental
who caled me?
frank knoll
just dome the retards and pump damage
People still run out of dome while they’re dying all of the time
Lol
quasi lotus
Macro "whos a good doggy" to your life grip so they develop a praise kink into being gripped into dome
Before you know it they will run into it themselves for dopamine
boreal veldt
Don't pavlov me
noble stream
I know I can make a weakaura for it
but is there a way to get the combat text for sudden death
without blotting my screen with damage numbers
ruby temple
I agree with them though these changes are bad. Stormbolt should have been bumped up to an 8 second stun
wheat jay
They should have done targetted nerfs, not all things across the board
sage raptor
god i love mage and rogue tears
same
hell I love outlul but man, I love seeing assa and sub mains cry
wheat jay
Pikaboo wont be able to keep someone in eternal cc on his own in arena anymore
Meaning he won't be boosting as easily
sage raptor
woe, balance be upon ye.
sage raptor
As a rogue pvper these changes will kill my class. Rogue needs chain CCs to kill anything. I play assa and my bleeds/poisons don't do enough before I get mowed down be melee or self heal class. Dks just wreck me and I have to be playing against a bad warrior to actually win a 1v1 against them. I will reroll war, or maybe even ret, if these changes make it to live. Rogues will feel just so bad. Mortal strike is just too good to not play arms. Rogues shiv was already reduced too btw. Just a little better than mortal strike now. Our toolkit is being taken away lol
stark agate
You’ll be ok
thick reef
Just give rogues the ability to perma kite warriors again and they’ll be happy
green anchor
I'm down to 1200 rating now thanks to BM hunters feeding
sharp meteor
boreal veldt
green anchor
I noticed people backpedal at this rating too lmao it's so funny
frank knoll
Meaning he won't be boosting as easily <:keks:936231610850897992>
He’s going to have to move out of his parents place and get a real job now
fair tide
As a rogue pvper these changes will kill my class. Rogue needs chain CCs to kill...
as a warrior pvper, I say fuck'em 😄
near delta
hot solstice
young acorn
hey guys, are you seeing fury in a good spot ocmpared to arms now since the recent buffs?
im kinda struggling with arms, stuck at 2k
cant seem to climb
torpid roost
As a warrior and rogue pvper, not a fan of the changes
Rogues actually need long cc chains to drop people - it's the clown gimmick burst rogue builds that need nerfing
No comment on mages, fuck mages
simple rock
respect the hustle
sharp meteor
thank him for his service
fair tide
must be nice to get queues to allow you to queue 7k+ games
sharp meteor
must be nice to get queues to allow you to queue 7k+ games
i think i queued like 300 matches in an afternoon on disc
can hammer games on healer unreal fast
fair tide
I just got a pop after 37 mins
mystic prairie
Yo, what's the reason to go for Tier gloves instead of Belt?
sharp meteor
Yo, what's the reason to go for Tier gloves instead of Belt?
what do u mean
wheat jay
Fuck knows i dont go to gym, at home all i could do was 62kg on stairs
@undone pumice y u haf to be mad
undone pumice
idk men
undone pumice
Fuck knows i dont go to gym, at home all i could do was 62kg on stairs <:keks:93...
place dog on your back for weighted calf raise
undone pumice
no
mystic prairie
what do u mean
I'm asking if there's a reason to do that, I've seen some warriors go for gloves instead of belt
undone pumice
ok
sharp meteor
I'm asking if there's a reason to do that, I've seen some warriors go for gloves...
wym instead of
u can do both
frank knoll
This is what I’m doing tomorrow
frank knoll
im kinda struggling with arms, stuck at 2k
I reckon it will be harder to climb as fury if ur struggling with Arms
mystic prairie
u can do both
I already have chest and shoulders, next I'd go with pants and the last one would be either gloves or belt
I just see people picking gloves and staying with conquest belt, and that confuses me
green lintel
proven tiger
I was getting 25-30m queues the last few days, very not bueno
mystic prairie
Basically I'm trying to understand the logic why most higher rated warriors got their 4th Tier piece on gloves, which is Crit+Mast, instead of Belt, which is Haste+Vers.
rotund trellis
hear me out: healers don't lose rank in ss. there you go
rotund trellis
Basically I'm trying to understand the logic why most higher rated warriors got ...
crit is king
undone pumice
This is what I’m doing tomorrow
who tf physically writes down their stuff
all my homies use an ancient google sheet
wheat jay
Psychopaths
undone pumice
strong app is also pretty good
mystic prairie
ok mud pointed out my stupidity, theres no waist tier piece lmao
There's a waist with similar name, [Core of the Walking Mountain] but it's not part of tier
tawny brook
35 minutes in queue why did I have to get into this game after it died
ocean ingot
I don't pvp at all, big pve only person, but want the purple conq set, fury or arms if goal is just get set and quit lol, assuming arms but not sure if the fury is turboshit still stands or was just 10.0
ocean ingot
lmao kk, figured as much. What are go to 0 thought pvp bottom 3 talents? Noticed talent imports dont adjust those
0 thought as in regards to changing for comps, want somethin I can just run regardless
wheat jay
Cuz pvp is a minigame
woeful solstice
sadge
wheat jay
My teammates quit too
woeful solstice
just put glad mount in solo for fucks sake
3s dead bracket
AWC players and R1s can jerk eachother off all day
wheat jay
Meanwhile i'm still chilling, gonna be playing pve in 10.1
At this point shuffle glad mount would be fine lmao
woeful solstice
ya
wheat jay
3s are hella dead
wheat jay
But s2, if they balance mmr better then its fine
brisk verge
Hello, I wanted to ask if weapon swap costs a GCD. Apparently it doesn't but when I try it in game it does
woeful solstice
why would you swap weapons