pvp

[spice hornet]

Imagine getting offended over that

⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
⚠️ DO NOT QUEUE 2V2 AS A WARRIOR ⚠️

[sharp meteor]

real

[flat tide]

How dare you

[thick reef]

lmao

[tawny brook]

Are you meme’ing or serious

[woeful solstice]

another day another paid glad losing his shit in 2s

[frank knoll]

What not getting pvssy does to a mf

[tawny brook]

His hairline receded 1 mm from that

[woeful solstice]

this is after i dumpstered him

btw

ele sham/disc

against arms/hpal

like...bro

you fumbled hard. 2x fotm meta vs a good melee and the worst fucking healer in the game lol

[frank knoll]

How hard is it to lose and just be like “gg”

[woeful solstice]

i messaged his healer and said 'gg ur shaman sucks btw'

there was more to the convo, i killed the shaman in the opener and then he started rage whispering me while i killed his partner....then i ran back and threw down a flag of ownership on his body and thats what caused the 2nd half of the messages lol

best 1m gold ive ever spent pretty sure i caused his blood pressure to triple

[ebon pivot]

I want flag of ownership so bad. It's the perfect way to get people raging

[woeful solstice]

honestly that one rage whisper made it worth all the gold i spent on it in bmah

[ebon pivot]

Agreed

[mild thunder]

Funniest part is you can count the amount of 500 viewer WoW streamers on one hand

[woeful solstice]

yeah...total larp

[rancid heath]

woot what

[narrow shard]

Pinned specs still good?

[mild thunder]

yes

[rose phoenix]

is there a list of "mandatory" pvp add ons?

[hazy isle]

gladiuSEX

[slim glacier]

What is the burst rotation for the pinned TR + No Skullsplitter build?

[junior haven]

is better to have warbreaker or blunt instruments

[slim glacier]

Good Build link?

[sharp meteor]

hm i think it's something like

isolated target is blunt

clean 2 targets like retwarr could be blunt and sweep each

then warbreaker into stuff like pet spam

where u can't reliably sweep smash onto off target

jungle, demo/x, unholy/x, etc, at least that's what i have found comofrtable

[spark oyster]

When enraged, earthen writ seems to raise dmg more than sophic devotion? Or am I crazy. Edit: nope roughly 700 dmg per buff for me.

[unique fox]

blunt instruments also seems good when you know youre gonna get a bit fucked on your cds, the extra 3 secs goes a long way against rogues and shit

[green anchor]

If I kick a mage's frost school can he still pop ice block?

[fickle forge]

No

[mild thunder]

anti-crit curse IS SO FUCKING CRINGE

[fickle forge]

Have you tried reflecting it idiot

Gottem

Just dodge his cursor

[mild thunder]

[sage raptor]

prolly a vegetarian

[green anchor]

Oh you get two mounts from the seasonal reward

Anyway time for a break lol I went all the way down to 1300

somehow I received this one as well

https://i.imgur.com/FlqkW0p.png

[grand scaffold]

that guy lost it sheesh

[rancid heath]

why are Orcs considered one of the best pvp race for warrior ?

[grand scaffold]

they are not

dark iron dwarf and night elf are the best

[rancid heath]

but what do I see top players orcs

[grand scaffold]

because people dont wanna spend money on race change

myself included

i just swapped out of frustration

[rancid heath]

i mean every other class ppl play BIS race xD

so I figured war there was a reason

[grand scaffold]

nope

[rancid heath]

i guess its mostly because orc wars are badass as fuck

[grand scaffold]

just expensive to swap races

[rancid heath]

like I said look at all other classes everyone pays to race swap DX

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[rancid heath]

either war players are broke vs other players or orc warriors are just THIS badass

[grand scaffold]

but orc is also a different faction from the 2 best races

[rancid heath]

truuue

but what make orc good for war to begin with

not bis but good lets say

[grand scaffold]

it used to be good

because of stun reduction

[rancid heath]

yea 😦

[grand scaffold]

but because of crafted items and trinket set

no point

[rancid heath]

all my toons are alliance so i guess ill stay orc on my war alt xD

alliance pvp racials are so good vs horde its laughable xD

[grand scaffold]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/for-the-alliance-battle-for-azeroth-world-of-warcraft-gif-12331196

[desert forum]

Hey, is there a point in crafting PVP-Boots on higher I-Lvl when it scales to 424 anyways?

[grand scaffold]

nope

[mild thunder]

because of their stun reduction... they're not the best race atm, but historically have been, and a lot of people are probably betting that the embellishments will change in s2 and orc will be top again

but racials barely matter

[rancid heath]

make sense Ill stay orc just to have at least 1 horde char xD

[fickle forge]

You can still find a bunch of orc hunters, shamans etc.

A lot just don't race change

[rancid heath]

true I have my orc hunter also but dont plan to play him in the near future 😦

orc hunter is still solid no??

[fickle forge]

Dwarf/DI/Nelf is superior for just about every class rn

Orc will be superior if they ever remove the 10% CC reduction on trinket set

[rancid heath]

even hunter with pet buff??

[mild thunder]

any race/class combo is literally fine
unless you're already playing in the highest echelon, racials are not that impactful

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz its fucking expensive

[fickle forge]

Shut up, you had your race change paid for you by our healer

[wheat jay]

Id like to swap to kultiran

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

No i didnt

[fickle forge]

STOP BEING BLOOD ELF ARTJI

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GO ORC

I'LL PAY YOUR CHANGE

[wheat jay]

PayPal was fucked so i paid for it myself xD

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

Bruh

Just ask him...

[mild thunder]

belf hunter 🤢

[wheat jay]

And stop putting me in a bad light

You fuck

[fickle forge]

I prefer to say I put you on stage

Where you can shine

😎 👍

[wheat jay]

...

[fickle forge]

Also I might have your giga Killshot clip

[cursive pike]

Why did people start switching to haste

[compact oak]

I keep forgetting. Can you Disarm another warrior while they're using DbtS and are not stunned?

[sage raptor]

If you're behind them

[grand scaffold]

idk if people are actually swapping to it

but haste is just fun

[frank knoll]

Feels good, lots of haste

[desert forum]

Probably stupid question - but why should i upgrade my Conquest-PVP-Gear? Does it goes over 424 I-Lvl in Arenas/BGs?

*go

Just started a bit pvping a couble of days ago for the tmog

[azure geyser]

Nope. Its purely for WPVP

[desert forum]

Aight, thanks - then i don't have to bother and can just the buy the pieces i'm missing 🙂

[undone pumice]

wrong

its purely for pve

[azure geyser]

Isn't m+ and raid gear better for PvE?

[undone pumice]

yes

but ur pvp gear scales in wpvp to the pvp ilvl

it ONLY upgrafes the pve power of your pvp gear if you upgrade

[azure geyser]

Ah okay my bad

[undone pumice]

🐴

[fickle forge]

Average beta rogue player

[grand scaffold]

what a dickhead

[wooden grove]

Ngl at least he’s doing it on purpose the rest of them are just that bad

[mild thunder]

League of legends mentality

[azure geyser]

Regarding talents, when do you take Improved SS, when SoA and when Executioners precision?

I guess improved SS into double melee?

[grand scaffold]

you never take ep

and improved ss into double melee

you basically got it right

[grand scaffold]

and drop hurricane

that talent is rubbish tbh

[azure geyser]

Hurricane is standard - Unless into comps where they dont have any summons that can eat the free 2x MS?

[grand scaffold]

no

hurricane is garbage

nobody plays it

[azure geyser]

Then what?

[grand scaffold]

unhinged

[azure geyser]

Into summon comps?

[grand scaffold]

get fbv

fbv into summon comps is very nice

[azure geyser]

alright thanks

[grand scaffold]

🙂

[sharp meteor]

precision nerfed too bigly

hurricane is nerfed by half

imp ss if u cleaving 2 people all game

[shut barn]

is warrior still viable ?

i got 1 week to spend on own

[sharp meteor]

it is playable

[fickle forge]

Hurricane also makes you unable to /cancelaura BS

[wooden grove]

https://twitter.com/lvladen/status/1632086023743176704

Lvladen (@lvladen)

I had my suspicions that Waking Stats wasnt doing anything but thought that it was a UI bug that its not increasing your stats, but its actually not increasing any stats. @WarcraftDevs

Twitter · Mar 4, 2023, 6:30 PM

Heads up don’t use Waking Stats

[fickle forge]

Use what now?

[sharp meteor]

Sustained str seemed better anyways

but I thought stats worked it just only was for str

[mystic prairie]

what's better than EP in the standard spear build?

[grand scaffold]

spear is different

but it really isnt worth playing over roar atm

[shut barn]

wtf why are ppl talkingabout hurricane

isnt regular spear build not viable anymore?

that was all the fun i had

[hot solstice]

thats why uncle Mud playing spear

[shut barn]

i like ur profile and name bro

[hot solstice]

spear is good into elusive stuff

[shut barn]

dont invest in crypto

[shut barn]

pump it

[stark agate]

Spear fine

[hot solstice]

or if u play with caster

if u play with some warlock sp to keep melees of them

[stark agate]

Also going spear let’s you get the points into the increased execute crit damage, with roar you can only get 1 point max

Just sayin xd

It’s not bad at all though, idk why people say it’s not worth it all of a sudden. The crit damage and burst and lockdown are still there.

Roar is nice in solo shuffle to get damage out but saying spear isn’t worth is bit cring innit

Not to mention roar dot takes a lot longer than spear dot, so spear does more damage over a shorter time frame

Small but something to think about

[grand scaffold]

as an ability for actual dmg

roar

is better than spear

spear is just good for the root

[stark agate]

And the burst

[shut barn]

id say spear won more games in a solo shuffle fiesta

some times u just 1 shot ppl or they panic and overlap cds

[fossil mortar]

Spear is faster damage, so better for em sharpening kill windows. Less but more efficient damage

[shut barn]

[grand scaffold]

i disagree but thats me

[sharp meteor]

they're both good in diff scenarios

[grand scaffold]

yea

[sharp meteor]

spear does nothing into locks/dks for instance

so why play it

except as bait

also every team is disc so dome eating your spear each time kind of sucks

vs rdruid where they have to tranq or die if you jump on them and pin with spear

[hot solstice]

locks wont use gatess till u spear and if they do before...well they f'd up win-win

[frank knoll]

Spear is good at Low mmr

Cause you can just KO someone in the first 20secs or atleast force a cd

[digital crater]

Wait spear isn't meta now?

What's the build now? Roar SKS?

I've been travelling, out of the loop

[sharp meteor]

have seen everything except sks

[sharp meteor]

i mean spear was always bad into some stuff

[digital crater]

Sure, but I still feel like spear was the default build through most of 0.2 - 0.5

[sharp meteor]

didn't roar get buffed by like 100%

like roar/bleed stuff is good dmg but i think it's more of the "i can't play spear here" build

[spiral totem]

yoo dudes quick question, you know how we'll get the pvp illusion in 10.0.07, if I've already hit duelist but I tank raiting before it releases, will I still get the illusion?

[sharp meteor]

they said it'd be retroactive ya

[sage raptor]

Why would they make it radioactive? That seems unsafe for human consumption.

[spiral totem]

Where did they say that?

would just like to confirm before I hit a loosing spree

found it

@sharp meteor ty bucko

[muted surge]

Btw is it at 2.1 or do I need to win a game at 2.1?

[sharp meteor]

mght have to win a game

i know some people didnt get their tabard until they did

[muted surge]

Tanked 300 rating as soon as I hit 2.1

That’s unfortunate

[little lava]

Im playnig sks ocasionally against dks

On 2,5k mmr

Works very well

[sharp meteor]

ya i feel like it has potential

im just all shambly and not wanting to experiment too much

although finally got around to trying thunderclap with blood and thunder and it feels better than i thought it would

[spiral totem]

oh so the rewards will be here before season 2?

I thought 10.0.07 would be the release of season 2 as well as the rewards

[sharp meteor]

ya

[sharp meteor]

no

[spiral totem]

I see

ima chill then lmao

[dark sparrow]

Yea played it vs uhdk bm Hunter today, shit was good

The 20% slow also kinda nice

On clap

[mild thunder]

That’s just pad tho… it’d be okay into bm since you actually kill their pets, but other than that it’s meaningless damage

You also can’t pick which targets get rend applied, so there are going to be scenarios where you have to dump extra rage after a TC to apply rend to the proper targets

[sharp meteor]

ya i tried it and its like

think of the clap as your rend button

which would be your slam button

its like a shitty little aoe hit but it's better than rend or slam

still not really convinced it's good but eh

[mild thunder]

i mean, yea but it's only better in aoe

the ST damage is worse

[sharp meteor]

o ye if it's an isolated target then that's sketchy

but into 2 sometimes 3 targets it seems decent

like had a jungle the other day where that's just rend perma on 4 targets

[mild thunder]

bm is the only spec that i could potentially see it not being troll into

[sharp meteor]

which isn't really remarkable but

just felt reasonable into that lineup

[violet hemlock]

can someone help me to become good in pvp? or get started in the first place?

[rotund trellis]

set good keybinds, play years, gg

[violet hemlock]

got any examples?

[mystic prairie]

+56 rating for 6-0, tanked MMR so hard

[rotund trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UED43NOWg10

[violet hemlock]

thanks a lot 🙂

[rotund trellis]

ps I suck, so I'm the last one here who can give any advice lol

[dark sparrow]

Yea true but the rend killing off dk pet and bm pets was good for pressure and the aoe slow helped for kiting

[wheat jay]

Rend wont even put a dent on bm pets

They heal 10% hp every second

[mild thunder]

^

This is the literal definition of pad

[wheat jay]

I play aoe killshot to hit pets on survi lol

But i also have explosive shot

And bomb

So if they dont have mend, and they rarely do at the start

[mild thunder]

I play with a feral, so he just randomly kills them witn PW spam

[wheat jay]

I just kill pets in few globals

Also, conq lootboxes for alts when!?

Blizz forgot about it or what?

[mild thunder]

Never

Probably

Not needed anymore

I’d rather a conq catchup mechanic like WoD

[wheat jay]

Bro I want conq boxes for my warrior

That I cba to gear up lol

[mild thunder]

It takes like

2 days of shuffle to be full geared

[wheat jay]

Yes

And I cba

I'll just get honor trinkets and play with pve gear i guess

Or maybe I'll play fury

And then slam rating as arms

When im geared

Ehhh

[mild thunder]

I just get 389 gear and start doing arenas on my alts

[wheat jay]

Ye i should do that

I have like 410 pve gear

I'll grab some honor stuff to have more vers

And slam games for easy 1800 xD

[mild thunder]

Gear gaps are so close it barely matters

[wheat jay]

Ye i guess xd

Aight this or next week I'll finally slam some shuffle on warr xD

Maybe

[scarlet barn]

Now

[wheat jay]

No its late

[little lava]

lets go bois

with deva and disco

XDDD

u will never see such a comp

[sharp meteor]

Very nice. 🥳 Grats.

Disc Devasation Arms, whack

[wheat jay]

Gz

How many games?

[spice hornet]

Nice

Comp sounds fun

[high star]

really? i stopped ss on my DH because the conq gain is abysmal

[spice hornet]

If your dragon crits

[high star]

im playing rbgs right now getting gear like 5x as fast lol

granted im in full blues besides wep playing SS at 1800 mmr lmao so my games are pretty greasy

[little lava]

after getting with deva i think around 200

overall i have 800

or maybe 250

idk

[mild thunder]

if you win 4/6 you get plenty

dh probably has extra slow queues too since it's an omega-popular spec

[wheat jay]

Nice

Wish I had any time this season

To maybe push

@fickle forge can we turn back time?

To when we were still students

[high star]

problem is im 1800 with 2 conq pieces

my games usually go 0-6 to drop mmr

then smash 6-0s at like 1600 lol

its a process

spamming rbgs has been much faster for me, ill go back and finish gearing in SS when i have some actual gear

[sharp meteor]

individual wins should give conq

[high star]

im getting like 150 per 3/3

with like 20 min ques just aint worth

[sharp meteor]

ya

[mild thunder]

yea but rbgs are cringe

[high star]

ya i keep getting asked to FC too lmao

never even played veng but we out here

[spark oyster]

Maybe a hot take… Daily conq stuff helps. The war supplies is 60 conq and killing an assassin is 60 too I believe. I queue epic for the daily as tank bc otherwise it’s just miserable. Rated’s bg’s suck. I’d rather spam skirmish. But after daily stuff it’s still more conq queuing SS even with the shit times.

[torpid roost]

Warrior is pretty substandard fc right now

Doesn't have the nutty mobility of dh/dru, or the flat survivability of druid

[spark oyster]

I Fc better as fury than prot. Blood rage and double leap is pretty nice haha. But def not as good as dh/Druid of course.

[torpid roost]

At what ratings bracket? If you're pulling that off over 2k, good on you

[spark oyster]

No, it’s never been in a serious setting. Yolo teams when I first started. Just commenting for comparison.

[torpid roost]

Ah, yeah yolo v yolo fury wouldn't be bad at all

High self healing and hp

Wouldn't fare well against coordinated burst though

[spark oyster]

Oh for sure not. It’s not viable.

[lean burrow]

giga powerful

i hope inflation will make it possible for us plebs later

[spark oyster]

i'm struggling with escaping spear w/ leap. do you do it right at the edge or right as it grabs you?

[mild thunder]

keep running out until right before it's going to pull you back in

then leap out

or be a chad and spear the other warrior's spear

https://tenor.com/view/roschach-watchmen-gif-15949180

[sharp meteor]

There's an internal cooldown on the pull. Basically you're looking to trigger the pull then use a displacement/blink.

It's super easy on mage, probably rogue, and then monk with port. I haven't actually tried with Warrior, though. The sketchy bit is triggering the pull and/or micro cc. If you get piercing howled in the middle of the spear you can't exactly run and get pulled quickly.

[spark oyster]

@mild thunder thats... hilarious lol. but yeah, i have had success a couple times with doing it that way, just havent been super consistent.

[sharp meteor]

Yes, it's still not the most reliable thing.

[spark oyster]

Right, i've tried it w/ leap as it pulls me and havent had it work quite yet, maybe wasn't doing it right so i thought i'd ask.

[sharp meteor]

Do you have an @ cursor macro?

[spark oyster]

i don't use many @ cursors bc i right click move almost all the time, but i should get used to doing it for the sake of spear escape

can't hurt to try!

err i dont right click to go forward, i meant for turning/camera control

[sharp meteor]

Don't replace the standard heroic bind, but have a second one.

I like having an insta leap for those pinch situations

[spark oyster]

good point

[sharp meteor]

then the standard reticle/aiming one if it's relaxed

similar thing with spear

[mild thunder]

i stopped using all @cursor macros

shit is not reliable

[sharp meteor]

ehhh

[mild thunder]

especially for spear

just click faster, boomers

[sharp meteor]

o ye i always use standard cast for spear

can't be affording to miss that esp in shuff

[unique fox]

anyone ever tried interveing out of spear or is it not quick enough?

[spice hornet]

probably really hard to get it right

[mild thunder]

doubt it'd work since it's not a displacement or blink

it's technically just you running very fast, isn't it?

[shut ibex]

hey guys quick question , im playing fury warrior but i die very often when i charge in due to being stun locked or being kited by range how should i play in those situations

[mild thunder]

welcome to fury

[shut ibex]

😄

[mild thunder]

you cant really do much to avoid cc, so just be mindful of your positioning, maintain enrage uptime and try to make sure you're getting into dstance before any stuns or major cc

[warped warren]

welcome to uganda

[grand scaffold]

[balmy solar]

Is that pretty much the name of the game then? I feel constantly trapped in cc in arms or fury, and when I connect with them they pop defensives long enough to get hit with cc again. Feel like part of it's a gitgud, but I'm straight getting eaten alive by hunters and warlocks.

[lean burrow]

That's why you got war banner, bladestorm and healer's dispels

[wheat jay]

bro

arms is easy mode in shuffle

jesus

XD

the dmg is unreal hahahaha

[mild thunder]

arent you playing at like 0 mmr?

[wheat jay]

yes.

[mild thunder]

gigachad

[wheat jay]

at 1900mmr

healers literally dont heal

i dont even need to play well

just go in, slap some burst

done

xD

[mild thunder]

"elo hell" 🤡

[wheat jay]

ELO HELL IS REAL GUYS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1082221171614949396/image.png?width=249&height=270

its real

i swear

I DONT EVEN HAVE GEAR

i have 0 conquest pieces

best piece of gear i have is 418 crafted weapon without vers

[mild thunder]

"im better than everyone else in the lobby, it's not my fault i cant win elo hell fr fr"

[wheat jay]

XD

elo hell fo sho

i shouldn't have won those games

average q timer went from 7min to 15min

...

[open glacier]

wtf are we supposed to do against bm hunters?

its disgusting

colosus? Scatter, permakiting, roots that seems to not have DR

[wheat jay]

kill sth else

xD

[open glacier]

and too strong dmg &cc

yeah I try to kill the disc but still he CCs so hard

[mild thunder]

lose to bm > pst them and call them cringe fotm rerollers

bm/disc is pretty easy to beat

bm/rdru is cancer

[open glacier]

I like the "call them cringe fotm rerollers" thing but that doesnt win arenas hahaha

and yes, against disc I just atack the disc, against druid is truly desperating

[wheat jay]

eternal q

REEEE

[open glacier]

I wish we had the "spell reflects affects an ally" talent

it was SO good against hunts

[mild thunder]

just overwatch

not mass reflect

[open glacier]

ye

[mild thunder]

mass reflect too obnoxious and easy, overwatch took proper timing and positioning, and there's a tradeoff of losing intervene

[open glacier]

exactly!

it was great

[mild thunder]

overwatch/safeguard choice node

would be a godsend

[open glacier]

if it was regular talents it would be OP for pvE

[mild thunder]

not really

you can already taunt > reflect some bigboss mechanics, which is about as risky and intervening a tank to give them reflect

[open glacier]

in m+ some tank spells hit super strong and are reflectable, I wish we had it but.. xD

[mild thunder]

yea intervening mid-pull

to give reflect

definitely not op xD

because you die 9/10 times

[open glacier]

I already intervene to inmune them with parry

and its amazing there and in raid adds

[mild thunder]

intervene/parrying is nice, but truth is tanks are usually so OP that they dont need it

unless they're majorly fucking up

but yea overwatch wouldnt be op because 1. you can already taunt > reflect some boss mechanics, and 2. you could only get away with it in big packs as arms AND would have to blow your major defensive to not get oneshot

[open glacier]

a man can dream

blizz is too busy with pallys now xD

[fickle forge]

And then they run/leap away from you because no tank ever has more than basic UI and will never know when you Intervene them

[open glacier]

yeah xD

well, in most cases they just dont notice

and they're like "oh I'm not taking dmg nice"

[fickle forge]

Once called on VC that I Intervened the tank when he had high stacks of Necrotic. He ran and died, asked him why he didn't take the Intervene and replied 'what's that?'

[open glacier]

PvE only players

xd

I had a DK in raid that didnt have ice chains binded

[fickle forge]

Stop

[open glacier]

"No need in pve"

xd

[wheat jay]

he aint wrong

[open glacier]

yeah he was we needed the slow

having more than 8 keybinds seems to be too much

[fickle forge]

Chains of Skill is the most busted slow in the game

No need

😎👍

[open glacier]

xD

[dapper drum]

so for fury am i stacking haste infinitely after 30% vers or is there a point where i should mix in mastery/crit

[grand scaffold]

i fucking hate solo shuffle

2 games with bad teammates and your fucked

[wheat jay]

no game for an hour

waiting and waiting

xD

[grand scaffold]

i was top 5 as fury

somebody overtook me

number 6

2 bad games

im down to #16

😦

stupid ass game

like in both of those games i get dogshit healers

and a dh that nobody can seem to heal

😦

so demotivating

[quaint snow]

and still youre probably in q again xD

[grand scaffold]

im not playing as fury now

not for a while

too sad

[bright cloak]

some DHs move around like they're driving a car too powerful for their ability to handle

poor lad's across the map and LoS'ing his healer before he realizes

[grand scaffold]

its like

idk man

so depressing

the first game i lost today

i got healers that were 2300

WHILE IM AT 2700

WTF

like surely blizzard isnt this retarded

[steep inlet]

its that or 2 hours queue

you choose

[grand scaffold]

2 hrs

any day

[limber relic]

Yeah same here. I dropped down to 2300

And got into a game with 1900 healers

But 2400 dps

Wat

SS is a shitshow. I bounced back up to 2600 just as quick

[grand scaffold]

im gonna get my cr back

not today tho

today is a shitshow

[limber relic]

Im gna get hunters/mages that die before using turtle/IB

And drop down to 2400

Gege

[wheat jay]

over an hour without q

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grand scaffold]

i dont mind going a long que provided i win

[wheat jay]

2h q

still no game

[sage raptor]

At that point you won the game. You beat it. Gg

[mild thunder]

stop playing fotm popular specs smh

[wheat jay]

aight

last 5min

[wheat jay]

ARMS

i give it last 5 or 10 min

then i go train

cba

[mild thunder]

you werent playing it pre-buffs, i dont recognise you

[wheat jay]

no

i was playing survi

that is still pre-deserved-buffs

[mild thunder]

ngl sv tree just needs a rework instead of straight buffs

hopefully 10.1

[wheat jay]

yep

xD

[mild thunder]

it should be next in line after pala

[wheat jay]

GIVE ME BACK EXPLOSIVE TRAP

[mild thunder]

ntm fix eplo shot and the talent in front of it

[wheat jay]

fuck explo shjot

i want explo trap

gimme more traps

[mild thunder]

a more regular way of proccing kill shot would be nice too

instead of waiting for coo assault

[wheat jay]

flayed shot back

remove killshot from CA, give it 20% more dmg again

done

make it hit harder on initial hit

[mild thunder]

agreed

cool idea, weird execution

on coo assault

make spearhead not a meme 1.5m charge

[wheat jay]

spearhead is shit

[mild thunder]

also fury of the eagle is uhh... idk what it's even supposed to be

[wheat jay]

make it a throwable spear, root that does bleed

not a tether

but a root

that can be broken with dmg

and its a bleed

done

[mild thunder]

that'd be cool

[wheat jay]

mongoose increases bleed ticks

kill command increases duration

done

[mild thunder]

someone hire this man ong

[wheat jay]

its small changes

thats all

[mild thunder]

there's a lot of nodes that should be consolidated in the sv tree too

[wheat jay]

these changes would make the class GOOD again

[mild thunder]

could be cleaned up a lot

[wheat jay]

well

its still kidna good

but it would make it more fun and feel more complete

[mild thunder]

ye

[wheat jay]

survi was that equivalent of arms for hunter

or rather fury i guess

no big burst

but huge consistent

while also being the big brain spec

[frank knoll]

I haven’t seen a DH in solo shuffle in like 2 weeks

[wooden grove]

Yes. BM and Fury the big brain specs

[sage raptor]

My first solo shuffle as arms. Kinda nervous >.>

[wheat jay]

nah i didnt mean that in comparison in difficulty lmao

just dmg profiles

[elfin surge]

[placid nacelle]

does fury take spear?

[sage raptor]

This is the gayest fucking spec in the game lol. You retards actually call this a man's spec unironically?

[stark eagle]

o.O

[sage raptor]

This spec makes dick look appetizing

[polar marsh]

Balance is gayest

[scarlet barn]

I sense childhood issues in you

[sage raptor]

I sense a closeted gay

[stark eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-gif-21353372

[scarlet barn]

My man you really do have baggage

[sage raptor]

My baggage is there's no cool Sword and Board dps spec

Desktop discord isn't working

[wheat jay]

You rolled assa?

Also if you find dick appetizing then my brother in christ you gay

[sage raptor]

If I found it appetizing, this wouldn't be my first shuffle as arms lol

I'll extend an olive branch

Everyone else was a caster

[frank knoll]

Sometimes, there’s an onslaught build that uses spear

[placid nacelle]

what do you lose for it?

[frank knoll]

Roar

I there’s also an onslaught/roar build
Smexxin was playing it, I didn’t really like it personally

[frank knoll]

You say that, until it’s 2.5 mins into the round and you’re actually still alive

[sage raptor]

Thanks to my healer

[fickle forge]

Average DK main mentality

[wheat jay]

He has a point tho

Arms is braindead easy to play

Does DISGUSTING dmg

And is very forgiving

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

You make a mistake and it doesnt matter, unless its trinket

[fickle forge]

Survival hunter tears

[mystic prairie]

send help

[wheat jay]

you cant tell me i'm wrong my dude

You know it

[sage raptor]

I don't main dk

[fickle forge]

Because, ele, assassa, DH, destro, uwuker etc. def don't fit that description either

[fickle forge]

Post bench

[sage raptor]

Okay

[wheat jay]

When Arms is strong its STRONG when others are strong theyre Strong

[wheat jay]

85

Post curl

Arms needs strong arms, not chest

[placid nacelle]

how do you beat a fury warrior running ur ass down

as a destro

[elfin surge]

its a fury warrior should be free win

[placid nacelle]

wdym

[wheat jay]

You outdps and outlive him

Fury is not in the best spot rn

Whereas destro is very strong

[placid nacelle]

but he's on me all the time with some spell refelcts

[wheat jay]

One every 30s

[placid nacelle]

what should i be aiming to do to counter them

[wheat jay]

That you can remove with anything

[placid nacelle]

should i port/gate his things?

[wheat jay]

You can literally stand still and win

But ye you can gate spear

Even should

Fury rn is just one burst window

Survive it and you easy win

[placid nacelle]

what about arms

how is it different when facing arms

[wheat jay]

Arms does more dmg, Has better burst

Better ms

[quaint snow]

https://youtu.be/ngFn5UJY4tI

Watch this, theres a part where he explains spear usage. Gotta know how to spear, EZ 1800

18min 30s (watch the whole tough i guess)

[elfin surge]

🙏

[mystic prairie]

I've seen that one -_-

I'll try recording some gameplay, I know I don't look at omnibar (don't even know most of the icons), but I'm not sure that's the biggest issue

[wheat jay]

Damage

Is the most important

[elfin surge]

damage and uptime is the only thing that matters in shuffle as war

[wheat jay]

Yep

Well, it matters for every class

But for warrior the most

[sharp meteor]

i mean shuff is just doing damage and trading cds super actively

[shut ibex]

how do i do dps as arms im new to arms was playing fury

in pvp ofc

[compact oak]

Other than your 3-button rotation you have to play piano chords as if your brain was a multi-core CPU 🥲

[shut ibex]

yes i think i can do that

😄

[compact oak]

I've played all hybrids and healers and please tell me it's just me that Warrior is by far the hardest class to play so far

[placid nacelle]

my friend is saying when he hits a warrior their hp doens't go down at all

even without a healer

[undone pumice]

die by the sword

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

ur friend hittin into parry

[frank knoll]

My favorite thing about arms in RSS is how you can keep your team alive to a certain extent

[wheat jay]

Yep

That's where the magic is

You're disrupting enemies

[frank knoll]

Fury is a bit better than Arms vs casters I think, but just fear the healer and kill him when enraged regen is down. P easy

[placid nacelle]

my friend is a warlock

shouldn't be getting parried i dont think

he says he's perma not cc'able and does so much damage and has spell reflect

[muted surge]

I think your friend has no hands

[green anchor]

yoo that looks so familiar

https://i.imgur.com/J1iyHNX.png

[elfin surge]

Cant relate

[mystic prairie]

[placid nacelle]

what should he be pressing instead

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/ZDlnJQu.png

Is this seriously nerfed to just 9% in PvP

It keeps changing between 30% and 9% as I'm hitting the PvP dummy

but the buff itself always says 60% with 2 stacks

[elfin surge]

blizzard doesnt like us hitting big mortal strikes

[green anchor]

[sharp meteor]

ya they wanted top end ms dmg down

too many modifiers between crit and ms made for big hits from time to time

[green anchor]

but Glacials for half my hp from time to time are ok

[wheat jay]

From time to time is an understatement

[green anchor]

still it irritates me that it's 9% and not 10% 😡

[wheat jay]

Castable reflectable interruptible glacial vs non-castable non-interruptible nonreflectable ms

They by all means shouldnt hit the same

[green anchor]

True that

[wheat jay]

Granted, good mage will always slap glacial

But the premise is still there

What i dislike more is destro doing the most dmg in shuffle when he's kt and he doesn't cast anything at all

EVERYTHING IS INSTANT

Hello!?

[green anchor]

and has 3 schools

[fickle forge]

Forgotten what the casting bar looks like

[green anchor]

those portals spit shit at you through pillars too

[wheat jay]

Me and Kargish going HAM on lock

We die to nothing

Ye guys, caster class

Ye ye immobile turret

[fickle forge]

I mean tbf, if you get sneezed on, you should be rewarded with a free 100k Incin

[wheat jay]

Ye ye

Where my free 100k Serpent stings

[sharp meteor]

Hurts just a bit.

[fickle forge]

Just kick th-

Uh

Yeah

[sharp meteor]

Just lose half my health to instants in a global for being in line.

[green anchor]

oof

[ruby temple]

That is how I feel against hunters sometimes "ope they could see me and so I died, gotta watch out for that"

[compact oak]

@elfin surge and @wheat jay are you by any chance pressing 2-3 keys simultaneously most of the time while playing Arms? So many things on Warrior are off the GCD. A pre-opener can be Stance+Leap+Fear in just one GCD, followed by Charge+Bolt, then Trinket+Warbreaker, Spear+Avatar+Ignore Pain and as you come out of Bladestorm you would be doing potentially Stance+Kick/Reflect+Sharpen+MS. Your defensives are running in a parallel rotation to your DPS rotation.

Meanwhile on Enh and Ret everything is like a Metronome - only cast 1 thing at a time, even wall/bubble. Monk is even slow motion with locked GCD time and FoF channel.

[wheat jay]

Ye and that's fun

[sharp meteor]

There are certainly times where you'll be pressing multiple buttons at once.

[wheat jay]

I wish they added focused rage back for even more buttons

[elfin surge]

cant believe we still dont have a SF here @knotty atlas

[copper hare]

shuffle queue time seems to get worse and worse every week or

[modern grail]

mud noob

[copper hare]

like if you just wanna get vault cap for gem you have to plan in 6 hours

[compact oak]

But you can see how it's more difficult than many other classes and requires to be played much faster?

[wheat jay]

No

Just dont have boomer reaction i guess

Doing few things at once is not hard

[junior haven]

smack head things go kaboom

[compact oak]

You must have played the game quite a bit then. Ever tried to bring a non-PvP friend who doesn't play WoW into arena? They tend to be missing a good few years of practice to call anything easy on any spec.

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/get-owned-lmao-get-owned-lmao-club-penguin-gif-23601351

[junior haven]

well anyone who isnt playing wow currently will obviously find hard playing the game at first. I mean, they havent play it right?

[sharp meteor]

I feel like playing for years is a bit of an overstated advantage. Can have a lot of bad habits.

[junior haven]

On the other hand, pvp and pve are two different worlds that still share many things in common. So even if people who dont pvp know their class well enough, many of the pve aspects can/still apply to pvp

[sharp meteor]

Gotta be queuing and actively trying to get better.

[frank knoll]

I thought you were

[compact oak]

I completely agree @sharp meteor, my point was just that Warrior is objectively significantly harder to play than many other specs in the game due to having so many off-GCD abilities to press frequently. Compare that to the likes of Enh and Ret who have almost no off-GCD abilities and everything you do is in sequence and not parallel.

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

That's a bit of a basic way of looking at things.

Pressing Ignore Pain is easier than being aware of what you need to ground/shear.

[frank knoll]

Rogue is the hardest class

[wheat jay]

I was pve player only at some point

Was always bored with slow rotations

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-smile-gif-14040974

[wheat jay]

Fury is the hardest class DUH

[compact oak]

Grounding is easier than SR because SR is not a blanket immunity so you need to time it like a kick and it's off the GCD.

Having to track the CD of Ignore Pain is objectively an extra thing to do besides anything else you're doing at the same time.

[compact oak]

I haven't properly played PvE but I struggle to imagine enjoying everything being about my rotational abilities. I can see why you'd be bored there 😆

[rapid shore]

like last 20 rounds of solo has been caster fest :(

boooring

[tepid bolt]

huh? isn't ignore pain off gcd?

[rapid shore]

frost and destro in every lobby :C

[compact oak]

I thought it'd be easy like people said, but nobody mentioned the sub-1 sec GCD all that haste ramps up to, while still having off-GCD stuff to press as any Warrior. I mean besides the rotation being 3 buttons for both Warrior specs. That's definitely easy, in a vacuum.

[elfin surge]

Got arrested because of RSS

This game is making me go ballistic. I was at a bar with my friends last weekend when my friend mentioned he hit 1800. I played it cool and lied about my rating but he had passed me last night and I had to play so i went to the bathroom with my laptop and of course my first game I match against RMT boosters and my laptop dies half way through. I was so mad and had to play so I walked to a gas station and bought a charger but had no where to plug it in and was bored of the bar and in a rage I just didn’t care anymore and unplugged the cooler with all the ice cream in it and sat on the floor waiting for it to charge and started playing. I couldn’t win because I kept running into boosters by the time the employee caught on the dipping dots and multiple other ice cream items were melted and deformed inside the package. I told him I didn’t care and in comes a cop who proceeded to arrest me confiscate my fake id and put me on a 6 hour hold in a cell. This is the worst game ever and on the way there all I could think about was getting emoted on when I lost to glad players at 1400 I didn’t even care I was arrested this is the biggest rage game I’ve ever played. How am I supposed to win when I’m facing boosters every game?

[compact oak]

Yes, and that's exactly why you have to mentally or visually track its own CD instead of being as part of a sequence of GCDs in the same rhythm.

[sharp meteor]

just press it lmao

[compact oak]

same for kick, SR and cooldown-reduced Bladestorm and Colossus Smash

[compact oak]

Thanks for this guide on how to get glad 😁

stand in the right place, press the right buttons at the right time

[tepid bolt]

Real question here though.. When would you guys run disarm and when do you press it? For warriors- do it during a warbreaker, etc?

[torpid roost]

Use it to cuck a warbreaker, yes

[sharp meteor]

press ip off cd

[torpid roost]

Or a shadow dance

Or (insert cool downs here)

[tepid bolt]

What about other classes?
WW Monk - don't disarm
Rogue - shadow dance
DK
RET
Surv
etc..?

I guess someone mentioned it's useless to disarm a monk so Im trying to figure out which classes it isn't useless on lol

[sharp meteor]

Really good into Warrior, Rogue, Frost Death Knight and Marksmanship Hunters.

DH isn't heavily affected and can glimpse it off.

Windwalker only loses Fists of Fury access.

Surv is probs more appealing now that they have to use mongoose bite.

[tepid bolt]

ok.. dang so it's useless against ret too?

[sharp meteor]

I'm not sure how much ret is affected now.

[green anchor]

most of their damage is from Final verdict

not sure what that is lol but I think it's a better version of Templar verdict which is a melee attack

[quiet pendant]

Got a question. What is your avg mortal strike crit in arena ? I am level 424 and shit crit most of the time for only 55k average 40k , I feel like I am not doing dmg. Is that the norm?

[green anchor]

I'm 421 and it's mostly the same

[hot solstice]

buff dh

[sharp meteor]

lmao no idea

[green anchor]

I often land 70k+ MS on cloth classes

and rogues

[quiet pendant]

Yes i never see 100k crit mortal strikes or executes .

[hot solstice]

190k on plate

[wheat jay]

LOL

[quiet pendant]

And my mortal strikes are often buffed by overpower and execute

[wheat jay]

Tbh what's fun in pve is playing with friends

Same with arena

[quiet pendant]

I need to see 100k+ crits on any class I play or the class is not viable

[sharp meteor]

ya friend keys are a chill time

pug keys kind of sufferin lmao

[wheat jay]

Precisely

Wiping on a Boss for 24 hours with homies cool

[green anchor]

I've had luck with pug keys being pretty chill

[wheat jay]

Wiping on a Boss with randoms for 20min not cool

[green anchor]

but the +15 always gets griefed

[sharp meteor]

can be a fun time or the worst hell

if u have a mix of tryhard and uncaring people

[wheat jay]

I do

I'm one of the uncaring, i used to be tryhard

BUT

I never die

XD

If you can live snupy you can live any boss

Easy

[sharp meteor]

ya as long as on the same page in terms of like interests/goals or w/e it's a chill time

friend always brought along one of his buddies to keys who'd legit only log on for keys

like actual minimum effort

and that was unfun

[muted surge]

Raiding is decent if it’s not the same 3 people wiping us for 20h

[spice hornet]

Carrying really bad friends in keys gets old if you notice they don’t improve or try to gear outside of getting carried

Mythic raiding got old tired of spending every Tuesday-Thursday of my life in raid can’t miss

[muted surge]

Especially if they don’t even try to improve

[wheat jay]

Atm i'm the bad guy

Cuz 0 gear compared to others

But i'm on bench anyway since i cant raid reliably

So whenever they need me and im available i hop in

Got 3 bosses that way xD

And i just cheer on them

To get CE

Theyre halfway done with diurna atm

[spice hornet]

That’s actually bis

Bench ride until free CE when it’s on farm

[wheat jay]

Nah i dont care about CE

[spice hornet]

Some mythic bosses in BFA/Shadowlands were so disgusting to prog too, mythic ghuun, jaina, nzoth, a sharp

[wheat jay]

I just thought, i barely play

I can be a bench that's reliable

Cuz that's what almost every guild lacks

Cuz nobody wants to be on bench

Meanwhile im chilling hard there

[wheat jay]

https://youtu.be/uQQe72MpZ24

[junior haven]

are vault items 424 in arena? Im somewhat new to vault pvp

[lean burrow]

conquest gear scales to 424 ilvl

conquest gear in vault is on the third row

[junior haven]

oh okay so vault gear is conquest gear cool, ill just wait till tomorrow before spending my conquest rn

ty

[azure geyser]

What are you guys doing during SS queue?

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

anime

[polar marsh]

Playing better games

[wheat jay]

Looks like furious wanking

Gotta edge yourself to have edge over your enemies

[undone pumice]

if you nut more than 800 times you start getting negative testosterone so you actually roll over from 0 to 10000

[placid nacelle]

Press disarm on fdk using pillar is extremely op

They might as well be disconnected from the game

[lean burrow]

it's not really just "shadow dance" disarm

[placid nacelle]

What’s hard about fighting destro?

[lean burrow]

disarm when rogue is about to kidney shot you or someone else

and your healer is cced

[placid nacelle]

That’s a gamer move

[lean burrow]

e.g. your healer got feared by priest, time to disarm rogue (if you are off stun DR)

you might not make it tho so either bladestorm instead, war banner, or stun (so you both are in stun if rogue kidneys)

[mild thunder]

this

but also have disarm for shadow blades

it's not super worth to disarm ret as the only thing you block is crusader strike

[placid nacelle]

Does disarming hpals do anything then?

[mild thunder]

no...

actually

it wastes your disarm

[placid nacelle]

Aha

I thought they healed a lot with cs

[mild thunder]

cs is an HP generator, but they're not sitting in melee in arenas

[cerulean pecan]

Any FDK that won't trinket out of disarm is lameeee

[mild thunder]

and if they are, they're getting dumpstered because that spec is squishy af

[placid nacelle]

Ah yes the trinket every 45s tech

[mild thunder]

just intervene>bladestorm the disarm for your fdk

🧠

[placid nacelle]

Cracked

Why don’t my warriors do that for me

Laaaaame

[cerulean pecan]

If you don't win in the first second as Frost your going to lose either way lol

[lean burrow]

frost dk is new monk

45 sec go, then hide until next go

[cerulean pecan]

1min of your 2h

[wheat jay]

another 1h q

cba

im 1516 after 5 shuffles tho which is fine i guess

for 0 gear

[undone pumice]

on hunt?

[wheat jay]

Arms

Easiest iteration of arms I ever played

Shit's straight up stupid

[wheat jay]

Bro if I was still at pisslow cr on hunt id uninstall

I was at 2300+

But dropped

Maybe 2400 on arms will be easier

Once I have gear at least xD

[frank knoll]

Hardest was BfA

[wheat jay]

Easiest is now

Straight up

Dont need to do shit

Dont need to play well

Slap dmg

And win

And oh my god if I do some CC or throw an interrupt

Game won

[undone pumice]

i want u to uninstall

[frank knoll]

I’d argue easiest was condemn season 1 SL warrior

[sharp meteor]

pre-nerf bm, condemn arms with 1 minute rally and sephuz

[wheat jay]

Y u rude

[undone pumice]

opposite

[frank knoll]

Gd I have like no energy to log on a queue up at the end of the day, haven’t played in like a week

[wispy cedar]

based take

[full quiver]

Same

[tepid bolt]

do ppl still run spear? im noticing top players run with roar

[sharp meteor]

Spear feels really good into some stuff and is useless into other things.

It's kind of like a comp/matchup thing, I think.

[indigo barn]

Also missing a spear hurts

A lot

[sharp meteor]

It does.

Roar is just nice and reliable damage.

[indigo barn]

The pad is very nice. Helps in blaming others in the SS if your doing badly

Oh and one last thing, spear telegraphs what you are doing, meaning that players will more likely use there defensive properly instead of the tail end of the big dam

[frank knoll]

You can bait CDs with spear

A lot of people see spear and panic immediately

[rotund trellis]

I do panic, and I'm the one throwing it

[mild thunder]

can pretty much always bait out dome, bop etc

but on the other hand, especially at lower ratings, people just dont react if you dont spear so you can end up getting a lot of free wins

[indigo barn]

The spear coin flip

[lean burrow]

bait out big defensive, "haha now I wait 10 seconds and win the game", teammate dies, gg next round

[cerulean pecan]

Was originally unhinged build and stacked crit
Trying out a skullsplitter build and have enough conquest for another set. Thinking of buying to stack Haste. Or should I go for mastery? Or stay as crit and just use the conq for a fury set?

[mild thunder]

mastery is the only stat that's never worth intentionally stacking in pvp for arms

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-hands-pepe-the-frog-smile-happy-clap-gif-17745411

rogue nerfed

[sharp meteor]

sub not touched

destro not touched

meh

[lean burrow]

arms not touched

arms not touched

[mild thunder]

at least the assa nerfs are more than one line

[high star]

ya the last assa nerf was pretty anticlimactic

if you even want to call it that

[cerulean pecan]

Bet, I'll try a Haste build. Ty

[mild thunder]

even these are somewhat soft tbh

considering how strong assa has been all season

[grand scaffold]

What’s the nerf

[fiery oxide]

[With weekly restarts] Deathmark duplicated effects now deal 50% (was 70%) of normal damage in PvP Combat.
[With weekly restarts] Numbing Poison effectiveness now reduced by 47% (was 33%) in PvP Combat.
[With weekly restarts] Numbing Poison (Shiv Effect) effectiveness now reduced by 52% (was 40%) in PvP Combat.
[With weekly restarts] Improved Garrote - Fixed a bug that prevented Improved Garrote's PvP Multiplier from applying. Damage bonus will once again match the tooltip value of 30% (base 50%) in PvP Combat.

[unique fox]

cant wait to farm 2s

[mild thunder]

they're still going to be pretty strong

probably

still annoying to kill, still have 20sec kidney, still have a stupidly strong ms effect, but the nerfs are needed and welcome

[lean burrow]

still no bugfix for haste reduction on numbing poison

[open glacier]

You have BM hunters in 2s now

Theyre disgusting

[unique fox]

Should be more manageable with the additional 20% disc nerf at least

[open glacier]

Yeah maybe

But rdruid-bm is still cancer

[mild thunder]

arms did fine into disc anyway

you can stick to them, avoid most of their cc, could already stop a lot of their dmg

[grand scaffold]

disc isnt the problem

rdru bm is

[mild thunder]

i mean, disc has absolutely been a problem, it's just that WE have a decent matchup into it

[grand scaffold]

idk i find other healers harder to beat

even on alts like lock and stuff

[mild thunder]

I mean, there’s a reason disc is the most heavily over-represented healer right now and has copped two nerfs to compensate

[grand scaffold]

ofc thats why they are overrepresented

[bright stream]

had to afk for 2-3 weeks

whats the scoop, arms still decent?

[lean burrow]

i afked for 3 weeks too, nothing has changed

[bright stream]

I saw rogues are finally getting binned

that's pretty fucking exciting

[copper hare]

That won't dethrone assa rogues from the top spot but at least we got something this week.

still need something about destru and ele imo

[grand scaffold]

AND FROST

[mild thunder]

frost mage is a one-trick pony

just cast glacial spike until it oneshots

[lean burrow]

do you guys track if mage uses blink or shimmer in omnibar?

[wheat jay]

Age of rogue is over

Now arms rules again

[lean burrow]

or do you just stun once and memorize if the mage uses shimmer talent?

[wheat jay]

Yesterday I played ONE arms 2s gamee

Into Frost

Kargo was watching and he was like ITS 3RD TIME YOU STUN BEFORE HE BLINKS

So i stopped and won

By killing disco