pvp

[limber relic]

SoloQ

What an absolut shitshow

[grand scaffold]

idk who tf that is ngl

[limber relic]

Sure he was playing as sub but man he was playing so badly

Some high rated rogue streamer

Pshero*

Oh. Hes r1 on eu appearently. Idk

[grand scaffold]

idk who he is

[dark sparrow]

he's an og pretty much, r1 rogue

[limber relic]

R1 wod?

Either way he was so bad. My god

And so toxic

With a massive godcomplex

[hollow ore]

Every rogue in a nutshell

[limber relic]

😂

We played against lock dk. I said we can go lock and he went on dk and we insta lost cuz i couldnt let lock freecast and we kinda split dmg sometimes

After the game i asked why he wouldnt go lock and he said "youre just a 2.7k warrior uou have nothing to say, you shouldve known rogues cant kill locks"

Wat

[compact oak]

daheck

[dark sparrow]

not sure why you would go lock if you are rogue/warr and dk is an option

[limber relic]

I asked him for target and he wouldnt reply

[hollow ore]

Not sure why you would go anything else than DK when DK is an option 🐒

[dark sparrow]

damn you got rating checked, the irony

[hollow ore]

Fr tho coordinating in SS against lock is pain

Cuz you need to sit tight and los during their gos

And asking people to link 2 braincells in SS instead of going full retard is like asking a gorilla to build a rocket

So going lock is fine imo

[fickle forge]

Pretty sure rogues have a harder time going DK

[limber relic]

I mean if he wanted to go dk and los burst sure but he wouldnt communicate at all

Also idk dks cn just icebound outta stun

Esp against a sub

Idk

Mby assa wouldve been diff

[limber relic]

Haha what do u mean😂

[compact oak]

1k question here. How do you play against a lock? Run in on mount, stun and DPS, lock pops defensives/ports and starts their go, then you leap behind a pillar, wait it out and come back with a full go?

[hollow ore]

You dont cuz lock is usually shadowpmay

Shadowplay

[dark sparrow]

you know what i mean or should I ping gala to refresh your mind

[hollow ore]

Which means you are just about to kill yourself with a kid butter knife

[grand scaffold]

@mild thunder didnt you say a build like this would be useless

[limber relic]

Stil dont get it. This was solo Q and he was same rated but ok

[hollow ore]

Cant lock down dk but thats the only target in the game that you dont need to stun to kill

What are they going to do

Death strike?

Kek

[dark sparrow]

he said your just a 2.7k and you were the one rating shaming someone for not being 2.2k or some shit no? @mild thunder

[hollow ore]

Fr tho rogue against dk is free step KS during mass grip

Dk brings you back in melee free of cds

Thanks man

[limber relic]

Not rly 😂 i asked for his armory and he got offended

[compact oak]

[fickle forge]

Killing DK as rogue is 📉

[limber relic]

Perhaps. But no communication in ss is big kek eitherway

[hollow ore]

Yee which is why your call was right imo

Going lock, disrupt, switch on burst

Have to keep gameplan simple

[limber relic]

Yea, tried atleast

Ss is a shitshow ngl

Playing against a hunters that cant press turtle and dies in 10s into the game

Or mages with iceblock

D:

[hollow ore]

Or mage landing a poly while everyone is getting their shit kicked in

And healer for the love god doesnt trinket

Dude keeps it for next round or smthg

Gotta love it

[limber relic]

Did u see the screenshot on reddit of a assa rogue at like 2500 in ss but 1400 max in 3s?

😂

[hollow ore]

Ye sounds about right

3s is fucking hard atm ngl

Or maybe im just shit this season

[limber relic]

Oh my god

It was the other way around

Dunno if troll or serious

[hollow ore]

What the fuck

Ye hes got to be trolling ss

[limber relic]

Im so confused 😂

[latent hazel]

2460 in 3s is like

3.2k soloq atm

the fuck

[limber relic]

Ikr

Thats why im so confused

225-217 at 1400

[stiff nexus]

Boosted 3’s?

[limber relic]

143-133 and at 2400

Possibly

[green anchor]

Why even care... people buy boosts all the time

Not worth making your head spin over it

[limber relic]

Stil funny tho

[warped warren]

boosted + rmp + ratio

[mystic prairie]

All this talk about SS rating being shit compared to 3s makes me feel bad. How do you just hard-carry your 2 random teammates when at least one of them doesn't use shit and just dies after YOU use everything to save him?

[mystic barn]

ur yelling into the void

it’s called u lose

[thick reef]

Alternatively, consider suicide]

[craggy socket]

Is using rend the way now?

[thick reef]

Not using Rend

My brother in Christ...

Unless you are a Fury chad, you always Rend

[craggy socket]

Cool

I see people using thunderous roar over spear too

Interesting

[mystic barn]

thought u quit the game bc u were losing at 1400

[craggy socket]

What a memory you have

[grand scaffold]

😂

[frank knoll]

I’m losing at 1400
It’s so weird I had no problem getting 1800 in the past
Now it’s 2/4 2/4, 3/3, 2/4 every queue sesh

Maybe I need to go back to Arms

[full quiver]

[limber relic]

Roar>spear

[craggy socket]

I forgot this discord was full of try hard douchebags

[mystic barn]

and we don’t forget ur a wife beater

[craggy socket]

https://tenor.com/view/hektordefrance-alex-jones-gif-18689570

[torpid roost]

Been way, way higher, 1800 used to be trivial to me, I still lost games at sub-1400 this xpack.

Taking a few years off and arms being a dumpster fire didn't help, but, I didn't get that bad. Class fixed, shake the rust off, 1800 comes pretty easily.

But i was having some existential crises for a moment there, was the point

[full quiver]

[sage raptor]

So, leap but it's outlaw rogues death from above and it's a big stun when it lands

It, quite literally, came to me in a dream.

[rotund trellis]

[grand scaffold]

hows solo shuffle going

[quartz verge]

Hey guys I'm new to the Pvp world wants to create because Gladiator titles my main is warrior fury actually but have created a warrior for pvp as arms and now I wanted to ask so which one is better because I need one who can help me well write me privately because sometimes I get no notification would be very nice 🙂 if it goes also German people because german is my mother language but if not it is also okey 🙂

[sage raptor]

Bitch

[grand scaffold]

arns is better

arms*

[uneven hemlock]

Honestly, he might be higher in another spec, since when you check this it doesn't show how many games they played on the spec just overall, so for all we know he could also be 2400 in another spec.

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, nah, he paid for help.

1% chance that shuffle mmr is bricked to farm conquest.

And that it's some alt acc.

[balmy solar]

Was there ever a consensus on that hybrid by/rb build smexxin is using? I tried it and it feels a little clunky. Does it stack up better than the annihilator build?

[grand scaffold]

it does not

but i might be playing it wrong

[mild thunder]

Eh, been trying it out, moving some points around

[grand scaffold]

😂

is it going well?

[mild thunder]

Damage feels good, but you’re incredibly squishy and easy to kill

Which is pretty much exactly what I said

[hazy isle]

Fury needs a rework

Of its entire moveset

Scrap that shite

[mild thunder]

Why am I unsurprised you’d use an Alex jones gif…

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[silk flicker]

ah yes ele shaman fun

[grand scaffold]

that was a rsham

[silk flicker]

no i mean in general

blinking and getting flattened is just exciting

[grand scaffold]

oh

[compact oak]

What makes the Annihilator build better with 2-handers instead of going SMF?

[shut ibex]

do i go for 2 crimson glad polearms as fury ?

or greatswords

[grand scaffold]

so if stat priority is vers haste mastery crit

you can pick gear with that reliably

same goes for weapons

so basically go for the polearms

[shut ibex]

okay thanks 😄

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

Weapons cost a fat chunk of conquest, though, so may take a minute.

[shut ibex]

almost got my first one 😛

im a big noob when it comes to pvp first time trying it out 😄

[open glacier]

what is the page to check someone

and see statistics

?

[spice hornet]

check-pvp.fr?

[open glacier]

ooh but no statistics there

I mean

I think I used to see a site that showed last matches? idk

[slender lion]

how far behind is fury vs arms now

[sharp meteor]

Dunno but the dmg is decent.

[slender lion]

it seems decent for the maintained damage

just doesnt have the big crits

[elfin surge]

i wanna try mastery stacking fury

[uneven burrow]

When playing the Fury talent that causes Avatar to proc Odyn's Fury, should you wait until the DOT falls off to hit the actual Odyn's Fury? Or does it work like some other spells where the 2 dots will stack and make 1 extra powerful dot?

[elfin surge]

Wait for the dot. If you're doing your burst rotation correctly the chance to use actual odyns will be right as the first dot falls.

[uneven burrow]

That's what I've noticed, thanks. rampage, BT, rampage and Odyn's would be timed perfect. Wasn't sure if i should swap the Bt for Odyns

[wheat jay]

stack deez nuts on yo face

[junior haven]

is arms good? or fury better?

also, is razs weapon of any use in pvp?

[lean burrow]

no

play whatever you like more

[brazen rock]

i swear to god one day you post an ss at 2900 then the next at 1800

go outside

[sharp meteor]

wym one is shuffle one is 3s

[spice hornet]

LMFAO

where's @bruin

[full quiver]

wait ndogo how tf are u 1800

[spice hornet]

cuz hes not fotm scum lik eu

[full quiver]

or is that diff spec

i unsubbed lmao

went to mardi gras didn't play for like a week, lost all interest

[spice hornet]

nooo

HAHAHAH

how was mardi gras

[full quiver]

fucking awesome

[spice hornet]

was new orleans sus at all

or was it safe

[full quiver]

there was a shooting and a stabbing

within like a block of us

and we had noc lue whole time

[spice hornet]

lmao

[full quiver]

it's literally chaos

there's like no rules

[spice hornet]

yeah that area has...suspicious characters there

[leaden lynx]

it be like that

[full quiver]

buddys cellphone got stolen

that was only sus thing that happened to group

[leaden lynx]

also be like that

[full quiver]

his fault though

he lives down there

[spice hornet]

did you get a lot of beads

[full quiver]

texting whole time we're on the street with some girl

[spice hornet]

and see a lot of titties

[full quiver]

then goes and puts his phone in his jacket instead of pants

within 30 mins of being on bourbon

saw 12 pairs of titties

i stood under this balcony that was throwing beads

100% worth going to if you haven't done it

frenchmen street was sick too with all the live music

[spice hornet]

me and @sharp meteor are going next year

[full quiver]

Nice you should book an airboat swamp tour

It was sick lol

I think we got lucky though cause it was 70 and sunny so a lot of gators were out sunbathing

[spice hornet]

thats so dope

did you hgold one

hold

[full quiver]

Yeh just a baby one tho

I guess in summer ones like 2-3x that size cine out

[junior haven]

What can i get if I spec into Shattering Throw rather than Wrecking Throw

I dont think you run both right?

[crisp jewel]

?

[lean burrow]

they are mutually exclusive

Shattering is vs mage's ice block, paladin's bubble

Wrecking is vs lock's dark pact

[mild thunder]

Don’t take shatter

It is almost never worth, even into immunities

[junior haven]

ok cool, ive been running BGs to get honor gear and some conquest points. Havent done pvp since BfA but even then I ran my mythic gear. instead of unhinged take EP and buff MS whenever pets are around right? Thats what I get from the pins

[wheat jay]

predator meets predator

[full quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-patrick-star-rubbing-hands-gif-18664752

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

hehe

[sage raptor]

Would

[frank knoll]

Damage is good, worst part is you die really easy, no way to stop damage after wall is down. The self healing sucks in shuffle

[fresh bronze]

does thunderous words talent improve the bleed dmg of the crafted pvp helm?

[quiet pendant]

Never mind 🙂

[tawny brook]

How much versatility should I have? It goes over 30% once im in a pvp match

Is ~5k vers while in town how much I want?

[earnest wharf]

just go by the pvp vers. All u have to do is hit the training dumby once

no point tracking 2 values

as fury at 424 i'm at 37.4% vers so just a tiny bit less as arms maybe

[tawny brook]

Im 33 right now

[earnest wharf]

the goal is to get as high as you can unless you don't feel you need it for the defensive value then you can switch some gems to haste or something else at the end

as fury i always feel somewhat vulnerable so i put vers on everything

[primal cosmos]

@fresh bronze yes

[frank knoll]

Im getting out healed by Arms warrior in Arena as fury lol

[quick carbon]

im making warriors rage at me and its the most fun thing ever

giving warriors the chains of ice treatment is just the highest levels of dopamine

youll ever have

[lean burrow]

about dks btw

if I stun+cs on dk and they press icebound

since icebound is 30% wall and cs is 30% damage, does that mean I can just swap to whoever is a better target?

instead of hitting dk with 0% bonus damage

[hasty fractal]

Hey all, been doing arms for rbgs this xpack, have the buff for fury moved the dial at all? I play fury for raids/m+ etc so well-versed.

[mild thunder]

did that Portalpimp guy leave the discord AGAIN?

[ebon pivot]

It's meh. Better but doesn't fix fury in pvp imo. If you've been running arms I'd stick with it

[mild thunder]

@mystic barn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-xZmPlurA0

skip to 6:00

[mystic barn]

Oh my god

I have just the person

@jovial spearpimp

Wait did he leave again

[mild thunder]

he left again

but he got called out lmao

[mystic barn]

ya

I called him out

Oh ya vid too LMAO

I was spooked thinking it was me in it this is the better edge of the sword

[mild thunder]

funniest shit man

guy really thought he could come back unnoticed tho

[mystic barn]

Guy going on blast everywhere

[mild thunder]

he was in the pala server the other day too

mans is ready to fotm reroll already

[tawny brook]

What did he do bad?

[spice hornet]

wtfff lmao

[ebon pivot]

SS lobby with double prot pallies?! Feel like someones getting boosted here

[rotund trellis]

hahahah

[ebon pivot]

totally are

one of the prot pallies is literally sitting there doin nothin haha

[copper hare]

Looks like it was an awesome experience, sick!

[full quiver]

Highly recommend

I can give u tour company name of u want @spice hornet

[rotund trellis]

work as intended

[limber relic]

Hmm

When did they change it so that dots constantly updates it dmg based on ur stats

Not like before when it took a snapshot of your stats before you applied a dot

[sharp meteor]

like

15 years ago

oh no wait 10 years ago

[limber relic]

😂

Damn i feel old

[indigo barn]

6.0

[sharp meteor]

somebody asked about a totgc mog and i was like oh that was only around in wrath and he's like dang i missed that and i asked if he didn't raid then and he said that he wasn't alive yet

[sharp meteor]

let 2s die in peace

[indigo barn]

[rotund trellis]

yeah it's a horrible game mode

[grand scaffold]

😂

[slender lion]

Ones arms and ones fury tho no? Lol

[woeful solstice]

rolled an hpal just to feel something. holy shit people are DOGSHIT at this game

im in 1500 bracket rn its actually insane haha

warriors with 1200 games at 1500 rating leaping behind pillars and then yelling at me for dying

no hope

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, playing healer really puts things into perspective.

[grand scaffold]

HAHAHAHAHHA

my r1 friend 6-0'd flark in shuffle

[uneven turret]

is it arms or fury rn guys

[grand scaffold]

do you like mashing buttons?

[sharp meteor]

play

what

u like

arms is known to be solid now

fury hasn't gotten enough testing

but is probs at least fine

[uneven turret]

yeh

[mild thunder]

fury feels fine into anything but rogues or arms warriors

[grand scaffold]

fury is fun if you wanna mash buttons

[grand scaffold]

yes

[sharp meteor]

ya arms kind of splits fury in half

and ofc rogue shits all over your hopes and dreams

[mild thunder]

against rogue you either kill early or die in a kidney

[sharp meteor]

melee cleaves in general just tab and ding u

[mild thunder]

because there's not much you can do

fury damage does feel nice

almost nicer than arms if you're just spamming into one target

[sharp meteor]

ye output seems alright

[mild thunder]

but sucks to swap

fury also feels shit in soloQ because of the damp

1min in and enraged regen feels like a joke

[sharp meteor]

healing kind of gutted especially into big ms stuff

gotta get good bolt/fear value

[mild thunder]

literally feels like enraged bt heals the same as normal bt

[sharp meteor]

"hmm i pressed my heal button but my health does not go up"

[sharp meteor]

for like outright pve it seems like it'd be good into what it was before, like sp

just sit there and crank unreal damage into target with max uptime

also i need to get into the habit of playing aoe berserker rage more

[mild thunder]

same

kinda forgot it existed

also probs best to play fury w/ something that has a real ms

so you dont rely on slaughterhouse

[sharp meteor]

piercing just feels so good into so many things

but if not covered being able to tremor healer

or being able to get dps partner out of fear if we're on sp

just seems nice in some matchups

[spark oyster]

When queuing fury Are y’all playing raging blow/onslaught build or the hybrid with the improved BT cooldown?

[limber relic]

Passive raging blow talent

And rampage buffing BT talent

[mild thunder]

definitely seems a bit under-utilised

playing w/o piercing feels very awkward tho

[mild thunder]

most people seem to be moving onto the onslaught build now - feels fairly decent

[spark oyster]

For that one, are you placing the points from deft experience (imp'd bloodthirst cd) and into ashen or massacre for better executes? I've seen a few variants. I've been playing with the bt hybrid to favor using bt when I enraged regen.

[mild thunder]

build is in pins

ive seen a few tweaks from different people, personally i enjoy taking execute-focused talents since it actually hits pretty hard as fury

[spark oyster]

thx. wasn't sure if there had become any variance to it, seen a few folks running harder executes.

Right.

[mild thunder]

i never feel any need to take either 3rd rb charge or rb reset

[spark oyster]

same, seems to reset very often.

[mild thunder]

i've seen some people drop reckless abandon for anger management as well - havent tried that. could be decent, but i enjoy the burst from reckless abandon and it helps with self-healing during enraged regen as well

[spark oyster]

Oh--you dont take wrath and fury? Don't think the 15% increased damage to RB is worth?

[mild thunder]

i do

it's in the build

[spark oyster]

got it, i see.

[grand scaffold]

is it better?

[mild thunder]

feels better imo

[grand scaffold]

really?

you arent dying shitlessly?

[mild thunder]

more damage than the annihilator build, but you can fallback on the same self-healing in a pinch

[grand scaffold]

see

i told you

it was a good idea

[mild thunder]

i mean it's still weaker and squishier than arms, but it feels better than any other fury build

[grand scaffold]

ok

[mild thunder]

im also just super, super bored of arms at the moment and needed to play literally anything else

[grand scaffold]

so you like the hybrid build?

[mild thunder]

so far

i just wanted to make a fury build with as many buttons as possible

[grand scaffold]

interesting

do you think titans fury or dancing blades is really needed?

[mild thunder]

i dont take either

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[mild thunder]

both are just boring af

[grand scaffold]

what about hack and slash?

[mild thunder]

dont ever feel the need

[grand scaffold]

i think i have a good idea for a build

[mild thunder]

execute covers a lot of globals, rb still gets plenty of resets and bloodbath doesnt have a cd anyway

[grand scaffold]

do you run massacre or ashen juggernaught?

[mild thunder]

both

[grand scaffold]

can you screenshot your build?

[mild thunder]

my executes usually crit >90% of the time

[grand scaffold]

i dont seem to have enough points

[mild thunder]

it's in pins

[indigo barn]

Biggest execute?

[mild thunder]

cant really say because they come in 2 strikes, but crits for 70k+

[grand scaffold]

no bloodcraze?

[mild thunder]

would be nice, but nothing i'd want to drop for it

im not really bloodthirsting regularly

it's filler for when i dont have an rb charge or exe proc

or main button during enraged regen

[grand scaffold]

do you really need tenderize?

whats so great about it

[mild thunder]

wouldnt take onslaught w/o it

3 slaughtering strikes stacks in one global

and a free enrage proc

[crisp jewel]

Longer enrage

No need for enduring

[grand scaffold]

enduring rage is just better for that

[crisp jewel]

Don't need it anymore

[mild thunder]

yea i dont really care about the longer enrage

you rampage so much that it's barely needed

more about the enrage proc and on-demand burst

[crisp jewel]

Stay enraged so much anyways w decent haste

[grand scaffold]

what cr are you playing this build as?

[mild thunder]

cant remember, i think my fury cr is like 1900 in soloQ

first time pushing it

[crisp jewel]

I drop enduring for warbringer, the charge onslaught rampage is nice chunk of dmg, it crits for 50k or more and just feels alot weaker without it for me

[late nacelle]

Btw

Fury on non bt build

Is craaazy squishy, no?

[mild thunder]

this build has short CD bt as well

[grand scaffold]

dude the whole idea of the build

is pump hard with rb

stop pressing rb and press bt if you start dying

[spark oyster]

yep

[grand scaffold]

do you think dropping titans fury for berserkers fury is a good idea considering you dont have titanic rage?

extra few sec of avatar and reck seems like a good idea

[limber relic]

Tbh the standard fury build with roar is nice

Got me to 2400 in notime. Even after the slaughterhouse nerf and before they buffed it to 16s

Its so easy to have 100% uptime on anyone

And the cleave odinsfury

👌👌

[grand scaffold]

rampage hitting really hard with hybrid build

do you guys find odyns fury hits hard?

im considering dropping it with this build

[mild thunder]

nope

only time id ever swap to BF is if i was using anger management, which i dont like

[mild thunder]

yea, it's easy to have high uptime on slaughterhouse... who cares? it's about stacking it as quickly as possible
it's also just not worth taking if you're playing alongside any ms spec

[limber relic]

Oh mr derpderp i never said 100% uptime on slaughterhouse i meant dmg uptime

🤦‍♂️

[spark oyster]

I like OF and the mini go factor of its avatar proc too much to give it up. If you dropped OF, what would you want to take in its place on the fury tree?

[limber relic]

I used OF and titanic fury

And also used titans tormen but i think they changed it so im not sure what works well rn

That plus roar was great aoe dmg

[grand scaffold]

are you finding a big difference in survivability between the 2 builds?

guys

i forgot my question mb

[frank knoll]

Y’all
What’s the worst defensive in the game?

[tepid stag]

how do i gear up for pvp

im 386 ilvl

[sage raptor]

Death Knight Death Pact

It's a net negative

[mild thunder]

darkness is pretty bad

does pain and gain count as a defensive? it's pretty shit

unironically divine shield is one of the worst defensives in the game

[sage raptor]

Bruh how?

To a warrior yes

[sturdy carbon]

Spam BG's, buy honor gear from vendor Valdrakken

[frank knoll]

I feel like enraged regen sucks ass too

[sage raptor]

Use death pact once and youll see

[mild thunder]

enraged regen is fine in 3s

it's horrible in soloQ tho

[sage raptor]

The healing is shit, there's a massive absorb, the absorb duration is very long, the ability is effected by dampening AND its on a 2 minute CD.

[mild thunder]

on-global, can't be used when holy-kicked, easily pre-dispelled by priest, applies forbearance

4min CD or something too

[sage raptor]

That's assuming there's a priest or pally is holy-kicked

[mild thunder]

it's DF season 1

when is there not a priest?

[sage raptor]

It's frequent they're not in ss games or 2s

But the defensive still does something. Theres a positive to gain. Death pact has 0 positives to it.

[quick carbon]

boys who we got tommorow

for da fight

[compact oak]

How exactly is a net positive 20% HP a net negative?

[sage raptor]

It's effected by dampening

You get nowhere near 20% hp

[compact oak]

How did we go from Pikaboo dominating Solo Shuffle with Spear to almost nobody playing Spear?

[wheat jay]

100% buff to roar

[wooden grove]

Lots of warriors that don’t read patch notes

[warped warren]

on the contrary, i cant read

[limber relic]

Literally the best healer in 2s

[peak saddle]

Are my stats good for bleed build?

[limber relic]

Pikaboo upload games at 1800 with spear

[limber relic]

Id say 10-15% haste is enough

[peak saddle]

it does? i'm seeing many top rank arms with 18-20%

[limber relic]

Armory and ingame is not the same

[peak saddle]

sheeeeeeeit

and what about versatility? the more the better?

[limber relic]

Or maybe it is. Last time i checked it never was right

Ah no it doesnt compare

Yes

Vers is king. After strenght that is

[sage raptor]

I'm going to pretend you just misread what I said

[limber relic]

Mby u meant palas

[compact oak]

For Arms should I first replace Honor weapon with Conquest weapon or get 4pc Tier Set?

[limber relic]

Wep first

[mild quartz]

does any one have a suggestion what to do against double casters in solo shuffle/3's for a arms warr?

[wooden grove]

Zug zug

[leaden lynx]

Rebound

[quaint snow]

use Line of Sight (los)

[mild quartz]

i feel like most of the time i los i also kill myself losing the healer

[wooden grove]

Well don’t do that

[mild quartz]

is it that simple tho in soloshuffle/3's

[elfin surge]

hello friends

its friday

[wooden grove]

Positioning is a huge part of arena and being able to los caster dps but not your healer will get you places

[mild quartz]

i'll try it out but i just don't see any other high xp stoping the pressure

[peak saddle]

can you post your stats on bleed build ? 🙏 🙏 🙏

[elfin surge]

i do not play bleed build.

[sly walrus]

Wooo Friday

[grand scaffold]

@mild thunder are you using execute everytime you can press it or bt higher value?

while playing annihilator

[mild thunder]

i dont play annihilator

[fossil mortar]

Execute does what 3x the damage, so I say go for that

[mild thunder]

smol brain

[fickle forge]

What lol

[mild thunder]

as a personal defensive, darkness is pretty meh

as a team defensive, it's decent... but the question was more about personal defensives

[fickle forge]

I mean it's still a good defensive

Avoid half the damage you take on average

It's inconsistent, but on average it's good

[grand scaffold]

darkness is pretty good ngl

can save games if people stay in it

[compact oak]

How does it avoid half of the damage you take on average if it's 20% chance to avoid damage?

[fickle forge]

Because it's 50% in PvP

[sharp meteor]

its 50% in pvp

unreliable into big hits tho

like dh darks a go, i still hit them for 100k twice

smaller/smoother hits more consistently eaten

[compact oak]

Where do you check this? I don't see it on Wowhead. Is there some place people easily check all PvP modifiers for specs?

[fickle forge]

https://drustvar.com/pvp-spells

[green anchor]

Do you guys think that Defensive Stance is well designed?

[fickle forge]

No

[sage raptor]

No. I said that it's frequent disc isn't in my ss or 2s matches. Never said it was bad lop

[limber relic]

Idk. Theres a disc every lobby i play wether its 2s or solo shuffle

[steep cairn]

What’s the best addon to track defensive debuffs on the enemy, I feel like that’s one of my biggest issues is I just keep pumping someone that has their wall up

[green anchor]

OmniCC I think

[undone pumice]

good name

big debuffs@steep cairn

it has built in stuff like bubble and dbts and shit

[steep cairn]

Thanks guys

[opaque sundial]

anyone know how to get rid of blizzards arena frames so i can use my own?
\

[rotund trellis]

is t just me or the execute proc button is bugged since months?

it's stuck like that when it procs

[steep cairn]

Not just you I’ve had this happen; a reload fixes it but occasionally it will happen again

It just really really wants you to mash that button

[spice hornet]

I’ve had this happen since shadowlands

I have not seen it lately though

[compact oak]

It might be to do with Sudden Death proccing while the target is in Execute range. That's what happens on the PvP dummy, not sure about anywhere else.

[quaint snow]

https://youtu.be/wuQjRmNMW98

pretty interesting

[steep inlet]

yep. The closer i went this season is 2360 mmr / 2275 cr and it was atrocious in terms of lvls

R1/AWC/R1/RANDOMS/AWC/R1/

double R1 boosters

and so on

its SO hard

[quaint snow]

yeh exactly fucking pain

ultra sweaty AWC like games cD

not that i am in these ranges yet, but my friends dont even come on anymore to play even at 2k mmr its hard

[spice hornet]

Lol it felt like it deflated, was 2162 first week of season, drop rating to play with buddies, then was hardstuck 1900 with the same people weeks later

[full quiver]

noob

[sharp meteor]

sure

[sharp meteor]

ya surprising amount of like selfplays floating between 2100-2300

[steep inlet]

a pure horror

like after every sessions i'm done

[sharp meteor]

submitted a few tickets/emails in sl regarding rmt, probably doing the same this season

[steep inlet]

i'm facing fucking merce loony etc

and he destroys my ass

[compact oak]

thanks for linking that! Didn't know about it.

But how do you interpret this? For Darkness the only numbers are duration and the dodge chance, but what about other skills?

[spice hornet]

Leoww?

[sharp meteor]

ye he was one of them

there were a handful of shadow priests

then that one feral

[frank knoll]

Parry and Blur are the best defensives in the game imo

Didn’t outlaw have a Parry at one point too?

[sharp meteor]

i went through and checked the armories of most of the selfplays and they had their mounts yoinked

[sharp meteor]

hmm it had something but evasion is effectively parry rn

[frank knoll]

Ya

I wish the node that makes parry heal you wasn’t occupied by ignore pain

Like why tf would they do that. Nobody would ever take that over Ip

But it still seems useful

[grand scaffold]

all you gotta do

is remove from bars

then plop it back

[lean burrow]

remove from bars

bar slot disappears

[crisp jewel]

I love disarming arms warrior during dbts.

Usually don't have it up for that though, generally used it to peel for healer. I got one the other day though . Wreckd lol

[sharp meteor]

disarm feelin kind of sus into arms now cos so many people playing avastorm at least into disarms/cleaves

disarm on wb super unreliable

[compact oak]

According to Disarm description...

Disarmed creatures deal significantly reduced damage.
It should reduce Warlock damage when you disarm them. Isn't that right? 🤨

[sage raptor]

You are removing their staff which is a huge stat stick

So it makes sense really

[sharp meteor]

i thought at one point it just hidden debuffed the target to do like 30-40% reduced dam

but haven't tested it

[quick carbon]

I heard turbo is back on the menu

[sharp meteor]

feels decey

lot of random kills

with just like a ms/ss crit and whatever

[sage raptor]

When people whisper me and say stupid shit. It's like bro, I don't remember giving you permission to speak to me.

[sharp meteor]

only whisper i gotten recently was a guy who randomly decided to talk trash after winning once who then went on to lose to us three times

i whispered him a question mark but he pre-blocked me

[sage raptor]

I hate that shit lol

[sharp meteor]

have gotten so few whispers tho like

maybe it's because i don't emote or anything

generic dime a dozen meathead warr

[sage raptor]

I love to /kiss in 2s

Even though I'm 1100 lol

I'm in the middle of my evil arc rn

I should do 2s with prot. I wonder if Prot/unholy is still cheesy

[elfin surge]

i disarm demo lock pets so i cant be axe stunned during go

[sharp meteor]

so heroic

[compact oak]

🤩 tell me more! Is the new Enh damage boosting the comp that much or something else?

[compact oak]

Does that really work? 😆

and worth a PvP talent slot?

@elfin surge How do you target players, pets and totems? Do you use RETabBinder, do you click anything that's not players or do you go all in on Tab or something else?

[mystic barn]

I rlly hate those people they’re super insecure

Being afraid of rebuttals is super weird

Pog just chomped my lip fuk u

[compact oak]

@mystic barn Anybody ever expressing some form of anger or frustration towards somebody else is only ever publicly displaying their own insecurities. It's a weird cry for help, but then they don't really accept help. Just gotta let people thrash around in their mud and maybe one day they will wake up.

[sharp meteor]

flark has whispered me like 5 times but only on chars with female names hm

[mystic barn]

I’m fine with flame and frustration if people can take it back

But if u auto ignore someone and let your whispers through and can’t see theirs it’s cringe as hell

[undone pumice]

flark metamorphosizing

[unique fox]

is there any weak aura or anything that will identify the main hunter pet so i dont have to click on those little shits?

[sharp meteor]

Uh, the main pet will have the buff on it which is usually the little green boot.

The animal companion pet can also have its nameplate filtered out via ID in some of the plate addons.

165189 is the ID, I think.

[unique fox]

nice, good info thanks

[peak saddle]

what's the best arms pvp guide on youtube ?

[spice hornet]

petkick is also a rage whisperer

[sharp meteor]

hm haven't been whispered by petkick

[lean burrow]

both pets have the same id

[sharp meteor]

Oh, scuffed.

Maybe just highlight the one that has the buff.

8% speed or w/e.

[fickle forge]

Why are there less gladiators rn than there were R1s in SL S1

Hello Blizz?

[sharp meteor]

3s is right there

playing it makes it easier to get rating

and everybody just queues shuffle

because its more convenient and easier rating

[near delta]

Dudes will pre-block a rage whisper reply, but won't pop their defensives during the game

[green wyvern]

hahahahaha

my eyes

[sharp meteor]

the rarer the better

i don't want it to be like sl where u run around oribos and half the people are on their unchained dargon

[green wyvern]

ye sure, until every1 quits the game

[sharp meteor]

nothin stoppin people from pushing 3s

[green wyvern]

we have less than a mil. subs probably

[sharp meteor]

that 3k shuffle rating sure looks pretty but it's not a dragon

[spice hornet]

sick ass glad mount but barely anyone can get it without sweating their dick off

nice

[near delta]

It's sweaty af at like 2k lol

[sharp meteor]

oh well still got a few months in the seas

artificial inflation pushes it up a bit which gets people queuing which pushes it up more

idk i imagine it's going to be somewhere between cosmic and eternal

which is probably about where it should be

[near delta]

Yeah should even out. Been maining ww and there's legit only 13 above 2400 rn and 7 are dorito alts. Lmao

[spare basalt]

arms is busted af

(not flexing) but I played 1k rounds as fury max I got was 1700 , I've played 120 rounds as arms and I got 1820

I started pvping properly at the start on DF

When will fury be in a better state :/

[mild thunder]

fury is fine, it's just not as good as arms

all it needs is a small defensive buff

[spare basalt]

I'm not the most exp player btw

literally first season

it's just shite haha

[mild thunder]

🤨

[spare basalt]

O I meant DF my bad

[mild thunder]

lol

allg

[spare basalt]

just venting cos i got mad love for fury

[mild thunder]

fury is playable, just struggles extra hard into a lot of melee

[spare basalt]

Ye it's playable I agree and it pumps a decent amount but like you said arms is just better

[mild thunder]

i also genuinely dont understand why fury doesnt have War Banner

[spare basalt]

it would help

[mild thunder]

would be nice if battle trance wasnt bugged again too

[spare basalt]

did the recent buffs help with fury btw

not tried it properly

[mild thunder]

they help, but fury's damage isnt really the issue anymore

[sharp meteor]

then play fury

[mild thunder]

play something... outside of meta...? how do you unlock this power?

[merry valley]

Not from a Arms

[spare basalt]

ZUGZUG

[crisp jewel]

My biggest issue with fury is the fact you can't refresh ms w ramp and that they took away IP and the enraged 10% dmg reduction.

[merry valley]

they took away IP and the enraged 10% dmg reduction. " more this than anything else

since everyone already brings ms nowadays

[mild thunder]

slaughterhouse was beyond broken

but it just needed to be brought down to 20%

[merry valley]

id say 25% applyed once no need for stacks lasts 5s

so we can actualy swap targets

[crisp jewel]

I agree w the nerf to it's % , but the fact it cant be refreshed kinda makes it crap

[merry valley]

sames as dh basicly

[mild thunder]

there are too many ms effects in the game already

fury should barely have one at all

[crisp jewel]

Agreed

Game would be better if they were all taken down a bit

[frank knoll]

When do we get shockwave meta

[frank knoll]

Nerfed crushing blow charge too

And damage

[mild thunder]

only rogue, arms, ww and dh should ever have an ms

[crisp jewel]

CB charge was insane

Couldn't peel a fury

That shit was fun though lol

[frank knoll]

That and the tier set + banner was what made it good the last two seasons

Even in early season 3 before it was “meta” people were making the argument that fury was dust

[crisp jewel]

I also think fury needs access to better pvp talents. Maybe a CB charge talent like death sentence, where it can't be spammed. Or an aoe shout that breaks roots for teammates

[spice hornet]

arms should have the strongest ms, all other specs should have 10% or none. its the best way to keeps arms balanced and relevant because when WW/rogue/dh get to too strong they just simply replace arms

[crisp jewel]

Arms has some really nice ones that make swapping feel impactful

[mild thunder]

10% is a bit harsh

[merry valley]

this

[mild thunder]

20% would be fair

[merry valley]

remove ms from the game except sharpen

[mild thunder]

true, id love all my games to be 20 minute dampfests!

[merry valley]

get actualy creative and give something else to other classes

[crisp jewel]

I like MS, definitely adds more strategy to game , but decrease them by a tad.

[frank knoll]

All it’s gonna take for fury to be good, like B tier atleast is a functional tier set in 10.0.7

[mild thunder]

fury already is B tier

if not higher

[crisp jewel]

I like the tier set, the sudden death procs feel good

[merry valley]

thing is, fury can be good with actualy small tweeks

[frank knoll]

Fury tier is dust

But the damage is there

[merry valley]

instead of erp derp dmg boost

[frank knoll]

Survivability sucks though kinda, ur dead in a swap

[crisp jewel]

Only thing about tier that sucks is it forces you into one playstyle/talents

[merry valley]

revert warpaint and bt nerfs

[mild thunder]

in soloQ... outside of shuffle, enraged regen is actually useable

[frank knoll]

Agree

[merry valley]

reduce enrage reg cd by 30s

[frank knoll]

Give us back IP

[crisp jewel]

Being able to use while stunned is great

And having the option to ramp or IP was nice

[frank knoll]

I queued into frost DK/Arms/Enhance as fury and I got demolished a couple times

But arms, that would’ve been no problem

[merry valley]

we dont need ip extra defensive, actualy think its better on arms for flavor reasons. Fury has other options with warpaint bt and cshb healing

its gutted thats the prob

[frank knoll]

Yeah, ur self healing in shuffle specifically is moot

The self healing melee damage spec that’s bottom of the healing meters

[merry valley]

pretty much

[crisp jewel]

You could go multiple ways, but everyone is in agreeance the def needs a buff

[merry valley]

when u see ip is providing more than bt + er healing u know its bad

[mild thunder]

not really?

they both come under healing, but they're not comparable like that

[merry valley]

yh rly

[mild thunder]

arms' pvp design is essentially as a tank

[frank knoll]

I’m like nervous to intervene someone as fury cause I’m worried I’ll inadvertently kill myself

[mild thunder]

with an ability like IP, it should be top of the healing meters

[crisp jewel]

Do you think D Stance should halve your MS?

[fickle forge]

What lol

[mild thunder]

what

[merry valley]

lol

[frank knoll]

Revert D stance nerfs too

They did that for literally no reason

[fickle forge]

Nah, cause arms wasn't like

Invincible or anything

[frank knoll]

Parry on 45sec CD too

[mild thunder]

oh god

[frank knoll]

And Mop second wind

[mild thunder]

what are these ultimate-retardation takes

[crisp jewel]

Arms sitting dstance and still being able to provide that much pressure I mean. D Stance should be just that right?

[merry valley]

no

[frank knoll]

And give Arms Last stand, fits the flavor of the spec

[mild thunder]

lunk

just

stop

[frank knoll]

Make IP baseline

[crisp jewel]

Fuck it buff MS

[frank knoll]

So we can take the parry healing talent

[crisp jewel]

75% sharpen

Out...

[mild thunder]

it's shit anyway lmao

[frank knoll]

Fury used to have a 100% MS

With the unhinged legendary in SL

[mild thunder]

that's... not how that works...

[frank knoll]

Yeah huh

[merry valley]

🤣

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/old-no-brain-brains-out-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7878833

[frank knoll]

This is the only way warrior will be viable, also need 25% damage buff

[mild thunder]

now you're just trying to troll to hide from the actually deranged takes you gave

[frank knoll]

I stand by those takes

Warrior should be broken OP

[merry valley]

this is why we cant have good things

[frank knoll]

As payback for BfA

[frank knoll]

That’s not true, because Disc exists rn

[mild thunder]

at least you didnt say this

[merry valley]

disc priest

is the reason why the queue pops

so yh im happy we have disc

[open glacier]

how locks do 104k incinerates?

I mean, isnt it supposed to be the filler?

[fickle forge]

You hit em', they can insta cast it

[mild thunder]

it's called "specs evolve over time"

[frank knoll]

Disc does double the damage of every other healer and the same if not more healing

[open glacier]

yeah but I cant ignore them either xD

[mild thunder]

different builds exist

[fickle forge]

Yep

[frank knoll]

Plus dome, 2x pain sup

[fickle forge]

Now you know why destro is meta

[frank knoll]

120k shadow word deaths

[merry valley]

i dont contest any of that

but i stand by what i said

[mild thunder]

i dont understand why people are so shocked when a spec plays differently to how it has in the past

[merry valley]

because disc is like this, we have queues poping

few weeks ago i had 30+ minut queues

now i have 10m queues

[frank knoll]

Shadowburn (insta cast) chaos bolt conflag I think buff their incinerates, it’s a talent called “burn to ashes”

[open glacier]

I mean sure, specs change, dont need to be condescending

[frank knoll]

Stacks like 4 times

[open glacier]

I was asking if there's a buff or a cd that increases dmg

[frank knoll]

He’s neuro divergent and takes everything literally

[mild thunder]

i do need to be condescending

[spark oyster]

How’s your stat spread with 4 pc? I have been avoiding the 4 pc bc I don’t like the stats it converts the glad pieces to.

[frank knoll]

Execute damage kinda sucks unless it’s vs low armor targets, that’s why o don’t like the set

[crisp jewel]

I have to check to remember exactly but pretty nice. Mastery around 30% Haste 25% or so

[frank knoll]

It feels like a consistent damage PvE thing

[crisp jewel]

Ramp is my number one and execute always number two

[merry valley]

any feedback from the hybrid build?

or even flat rb build

[mild thunder]

feels decent

[spark oyster]

I’m nowhere near that. So much crit. Probably need to tone up my off pieces to fit the needs better.

[mild thunder]

good single-target tunnel damage, sucks to swap, still squishy

still no reason to ever play it over arms outside of being bored/wanting to

[merry valley]

i only play Fury, just wanting to know if the damage is much better than bt build

[frank knoll]

Burst is better yeah

[spark oyster]

Interestingly, I’ve been flamed via whisper after matches for playing fotm while arms is clearly better and more popular. Makes me giggle a bit.

[mild thunder]

yes

[crisp jewel]

I have had the most fun with OS/Spear build

[frank knoll]

People think fury is FOTM?

[crisp jewel]

I think people are bored mostly. I just enjoy fury more though and never liked arms much.

[spark oyster]

some have, according to angry whisper boxes.

[sharp meteor]

idk if there's a single caster that's worse than fury

[spark oyster]

yeah, seeing it more often to boredom is the the most likely one.

[mild thunder]

definitely feels like it's shifted toward a more caster-oriented meta

literally all of them are viable and/or very strong atm

[sharp meteor]

fire seems meh outside rm

otherwise ya all good

or rly good

[mild thunder]

yea fire is by far the worst, but it's still viable

[sharp meteor]

oh aff kind of balls actually

or maybe it's destro/demo being better/easier

[mild thunder]

aff is balls, but its damage is beyond retardo

actually, i wouldnt even say aff is bad at all

[frank knoll]

Aff is good if they have hands

Fire is dust

[torpid prawn]

i swear, locks are either the tankiest of specs

or they die within the first 15 seconds

[sharp meteor]

u know what

i think lock might b ok

somehow making it work against all odds in this melee meta

[zenith marlin]

Am I about to slap pvp now that seasons ending kekw

[open glacier]

They need to do something about participation

2s and rbgs should have decent rewards

[mild thunder]

season is nowhere near ending yet...

[open glacier]

conquest alt boxes

rating inflation

idk, something

[mild thunder]

gearing doesnt need to be any easier

[open glacier]

right now, trying to push in 2s and 3s is heartbreaking

[mild thunder]

it's the reward system that needs to be fixed

[open glacier]

or buy sockets with conquest w/e

[mild thunder]

there needs to be an incentive for more casual/non-glad pushing players to engage with 3s

fuck 2s, let it die

[frank knoll]

Warrior lives rent free in locks head

[zenith marlin]

Locks are ez target lol

mortal coil is annoying thk

[open glacier]

2s is great and is easier to get a constant partner

it should be as important as 3s

[frank knoll]

3s is for boomers who can’t accept that solo is the future

[open glacier]

each ladder one recolour or w/e but still, same rewards

[mild thunder]

no

[sharp meteor]

solo shuffle mfs gonna end this season 1700-1900 3s with 3k in shuffle

[mild thunder]

3s is the staple of wow pvp, always has been

[sharp meteor]

imo 2s should get like a ground mount for 50 wins above 2400

[frank knoll]

Well, you’ve got AWC players on their alts at 1700 soo

[mild thunder]

i'd be fine w/ that

[sharp meteor]

just gimme like the vicious mount

with extra red spikes or something

[frank knoll]

There should be a way to unlock previous season elite sets

[mild thunder]

elite mog should be pushed back to 2200 as well and a new reward placed at 1800

[mild thunder]

L

[frank knoll]

Let me get the last legion set

[sharp meteor]

ya

[sharp meteor]

sure but make it like 2400 or something

[frank knoll]

Yeah sure

[mild thunder]

no shot

[sharp meteor]

and only once per season

[frank knoll]

I’m okay with that

[mild thunder]

making old elite sets attainable is the worst idea ever

[frank knoll]

Why

Who cares

[mild thunder]

people that got the original sets

why should they be obtainable

[frank knoll]

Who cares about them

I don’t

They shouldn’t care either

[open glacier]

imagine being a gatekeeper in pvp xD "let 2s die"

[mild thunder]

blizzard should care about them - they're the people that kept pvp going that season

[frank knoll]

About a virtual thing that’s no longer obtainable for a arbitrary reason

[mild thunder]

2s just isnt an interesting or engaging bracket, and it hasnt been since double dps comps died

[kindred viper]

no reason to make old elite sets available after seasons end

[frank knoll]

Everyone kept PvP going paying their subs

[kindred viper]

then what's the point of elite sets

[open glacier]

it is interesting, way more than 3s for much ppl

[sharp meteor]

ya they were gonna bring elite sets back in legion

but we all said no

so here we are

[mild thunder]

then why is 2s the most dead bracket?

[open glacier]

I dont like 3s and well, arms is more of a 3s spec

[frank knoll]

Just make solo queue regular 3s

[sage raptor]

Oh boy. Another discussion about their own NFTs in wow? Where do I sign up?

[rotund trellis]

thanks!

[frank knoll]

Yeah basically

[fickle forge]

Then why make it obtainable again if it's so meaningless

[mild thunder]

^

[frank knoll]

Cause it looks cool

[mild thunder]

"it means nothing but i want it"

[frank knoll]

Yeah it looks cool

[mild thunder]

it also looks cool and is meaningful for the people that obtained it

[fickle forge]

Almost like aesthetics hold value

[flat tide]

Make it a different tint

[fickle forge]

Virtually or not

[frank knoll]

Do you tear up and get emotional when u look at ur elite set? I don’t understand

[mild thunder]

so... not the elite set?

that's fine

that's exactly what the mage tower set is

[flat tide]

Elite but better

[frank knoll]

I have all of them from Season 1 BfA up and all the mage tower skins I could care less if they created a challenge to let people who didn’t get it back then obtain them

[fickle forge]

Rarity is a major factor for value

[frank knoll]

Obv don’t give it away for free

[mild thunder]

this

[flat tide]

Woah woah

[mild thunder]

and that's part of why SL/DF elite sets feel so meaningless

[open glacier]

no decent rewards

[flat tide]

I'll have you know I own the feldrake

That's right the TCG mount

[frank knoll]

I have the spectral tiger, if they put it in the cash shop I couldn’t give af

[sharp meteor]

u and every other soccer mom

[fickle forge]

Remember how feldrake dropped from like 5k to 1$ overnight when they made it a twitch drop?

[mild thunder]

because fewer classes/comps are usually viable in 2s, it's even more prone to long dampening-style games and it's almost always just a roguefest

[sharp meteor]

hey anybody want spectral tooger only 25m

[fickle forge]

[open glacier]

Imagine playing mythic raid if it had no xmog/mount/ilvl. Its the same about 2s

[flat tide]

I'll kiss you duck 😘

[kindred viper]

the simple answer for elite sets is the whole "hey, i reached this rating and i earned this transmog", to just give it away at a later date nullifies that

[frank knoll]

I didn’t say give it away

[kindred viper]

so how would you obtain it?

[frank knoll]

Get 2400 in any bracket and you can choose one per season or something

[flat tide]

I was thinking win a game of fortnite

[mild thunder]

2400 in soloQ is literally a giveaway

[flat tide]

And you get any elite set

[sharp meteor]

they fix shuff next seas i think

[frank knoll]

Win a game of Arclite rumble and you get an elite set

[kindred viper]

haha most tilting integration

[mild thunder]

probably, but you'll already have clowns from this season posting their 3k xp

[flat tide]

Most fun you mean

[kindred viper]

like the twitter integration

brilliant

but yes, i'd be hilarious

it'd*

[frank knoll]

Shuffle is more fun than 3s and got more people into PvP

[mild thunder]

[open glacier]

it is

you see more comps

[mild thunder]

they're not comps

they're lobbies

[flat tide]

Anything is a comp

[frank knoll]

Gatekeepers hate it because it’s new and better, just like in literally everything else pop culture

[kindred viper]

problem is SS qs being 30 mins at 1800, playing alts more because qs are shorter since i'm shit and lowrating and i get bored sitting in q

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cringe-dies-from-cringe-meme-star-wars-meme-gif-22116997

[sharp meteor]

ya unironically zero chance they dont nuke shuffle mmr in w/e the next season is called like azure or something

[flat tide]

I call two demonhunters and my soft night elf priest, Elunes Love

[mild thunder]

ebon would be a cool title

Ebon Gladiator

[sharp meteor]

ya ebon azure verdant

[flat tide]

Seems racist

[sage raptor]

good

[kindred viper]

also all my friends are playing wotlk classic and i just can't wrap my head around it

[mild thunder]

classic players

[sharp meteor]

wotlk and classic in general are bad don't worry about it