rb hits like a truck
#pvp
mild thunder
rb doesnt have a mini charge
bloodbath does about the same damage as rb
if not more
frank knoll
Is Steve Irwin a big deal in Aus
frank knoll
Also CB hit for like 35-40k
grand scaffold
in what way shape or form does bt do more dmg than crushing blow
frank knoll
Pretty nice
mild thunder
bloodbath can crit for like 60k
frank knoll
With the rampage build I can spam 100k rampages
grand scaffold
and crushing blow
mild thunder
it also has a bleed attached to it
grand scaffold
With the rampage build I can spam 100k rampages
whats rampage build
grand scaffold
it also has a bleed attached to it
sometimes
mild thunder
sometimes > never
frank knoll
The slaughtering strikes build with onslaught and spear
grand scaffold
The slaughtering strikes build with onslaught and spear
send it
frank knoll
Self healing is ass cheeks tho
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@grand scaffold
grand scaffold
so how do you get a 100k rampage
mild thunder
hitting a dummy for 100k does not count
grand scaffold
hitting a dummy for 100k does not count
do you think berserkers torment could be better than titans torment?
i see smexxin playing it
mild thunder
don't know + don't care
grand scaffold
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frank knoll
Stack of slaughtering strikes with avatar and badge
25-30k a tick rampage x4
And yeah Iāve done it to a player in similar gear
mild thunder
stacking it up 5x is more often-than-not just really poor dps
grand scaffold
stacking it up 5x is more often-than-not just really poor dps
yeah
grand scaffold
dont you flop in arena tho?
frank knoll
Not really
I only have used it in solo shuffle, but if you donāt kill pretty soon youāre dead
mild thunder
even with onslaught it's poor dps
mild thunder
there's virtually no scenario in which you 2x rb + onslaught w/o overcapping rage
especaially during reck
grand scaffold
I only have used it in solo shuffle, but if you donāt kill pretty soon youāre de...
what cr is this
mild thunder
40k burst dps isn't really impressive...
mild thunder
it's decent, it's not wowzers good
mild thunder
and yea it's just inefficient rage management
grand scaffold
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frank knoll
Is that the standard annihilator BT build?
mild thunder
yea 40k dps during burst is not impressive
frank knoll
Itās impressive when people die which is generally what happens
Iām not parsing in arena lol
grand scaffold
whats parsing
mild thunder
you can still stuff in arenas w/ subpar builds lmao
warped warren
mild thunder
it doesnt make it good
frank knoll
I just copied the build from grimgrip whoās an OG fury warrior
grand scaffold
I just copied the build from grimgrip whoās an OG fury warrior
i remember that guy
what cr is he?
frank knoll
ļæ¼ I donāt know what he is right now think like around 24 to 25
mild thunder
imagine being a fury main unironically tho
grand scaffold
imagine being a fury main unironically tho
frank knoll
Yeah, I know Grimm gets at least 2.4 every season regardless of whether or not fury is good.
elfin surge
lol no arms buffs?
frank knoll
That was the only 2s comp for fury in BfA at one point
mild thunder
np next week assa all dmg increased by 5%
i'd believe it 
mild thunder
Grim played fury+prot pala
only respectable tank player is troma
fickle forge
That was the only 2s comp for fury in BfA at one point
Play with prot pala = No respect
mild thunder
true
barren harness
@mild thunder I finally fixed my gear
azure geyser
Sick haste
azure geyser
Your gear is actually crazy wtf
elfin surge
<@589020053748449300> I finally fixed my gear
how u do that
compact oak
<@589020053748449300> I finally fixed my gear
Looks like 2 seasons ahead of everyone else. How are the numbers that high? Was this captured with some stat buffs?
azure geyser
Vers, haste and crit is higher, but 25 lower ilvl lmao
mild thunder
looks like either fury in-combat with frenzy stacks, or arms with IftK proc <20%
taken that into account, it's pretty regular
mild thunder
barren harness
I just wanna b liek u
elfin surge
i wish undead war was good
mild thunder
it is, you're just bad
elfin surge
barren harness
wym you get free fear card
mild thunder
orc gonna be bis against next season, mark my words
embellishments are 100% gonna change, there's no shot they keep them the same between tiers
elfin surge
my undead looks cool tho
barren harness
they gonna release a two-handed axe?
mild thunder
my undead looks cool tho
old undead racial animations while attacking were so cool
the little zigzag attack
fuck legion for removing all the cool animations
elfin surge
yea was watching reckful mop warrior vods made me swap
mild thunder
memory lane right there
mild thunder
my guy, that video is almost 2 months old
neither sp or dh are overpowered anymore
nor is looking at soloQ rankings a reliable way of garnering a spec's strength
quiet pendant
So honest question. Against competent frost mage.. just put the controller down? No reason to fight ? I climb then I get a lobby of frost mage lock and am fucked
lean burrow
lean burrow
So honest question. Against competent frost mage.. just put the controller down?...
"controller"
mystic prairie
You may need a keyboard vs frost mage
quiet pendant
U know what I mean
green anchor
So honest question. Against competent frost mage.. just put the controller down?...
that combo is unlucky for sure but it's doable
azure geyser
that combo is unlucky for sure but it's doable
How do you make the best of that matchup? Mass Spellreflect?
green anchor
have a rogue on your team lmao
mild thunder
How do you make the best of that matchup? Mass Spellreflect?
If you can find mass spell reflect, definitely use it
Let us know when you do as well
copper hare
watched Joe stream and I think I've seen the worst lobby in my life LOOOL
on blades edge aswell, poor joe
sage raptor
There's something so satisfying about looking at your rating and seeing rbg rating at 0
mild thunder
0 rbg rating is a bigger flex than glad prove me wrong
serene kite
green anchor
1 Ele in a lobby is enough cancer
azure geyser
Would you focus UH DK or MM hunter in SS?
green anchor
Usually you try to kill the one class that poses the most danger
azure geyser
Im not even sure which one that is
Palas have crazy burst
but usullay frost mages are a death sentence, so Ig they post the most danger
but then its easier to go for a DK
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green anchor
yeah not too sure myself lol
DKs seem so tanky
and impossible to CC for too long
Icebound, Lichborne and shit
they cancel everything
azure geyser
I feel like that for paladins
double bubble, massive self heals
big stun on short CD
cleanse ur slow
azure geyser
gotta force them to use bubble cds early on
Yeah and then I feel like the game "resets" but in their favor, as I dont have 2 bubbles to save me lol
plain canopy
with execute damage change is running the 4 set of tier worth it do you guys think?
sorry for fury i mean
hidden zodiac
should i be running the honor haste/vers ring or the vers/mast conq for fury?
i already have the haste/vers conq in the other slot
spice hornet
why do i have only 1 concentrated primal focused after 200 shuffle wins past 2400
meanwhile some group of pve andys fails a +16 and it rains down on them
spice hornet
fury doesnt have an impactful kit so its like walmart version of DH
muted surge
why do i have only 1 concentrated primal focused after 200 shuffle wins past 240...
+16s are just more difficult than 2.4
spice hornet
muted surge
full quiver
why do i have only 1 concentrated primal focused after 200 shuffle wins past 240...
Lol
Yeah I did m+ for mine
The drop rate is so ass
frank knoll
dont waste time in solo shuffle with it
Idk Iām climbing easier as fury than arms
muted surge
@grand scaffold isnāt your cr on fury higher than on arms
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> isnāt your cr on fury higher than on arms
thats cuz im very tilted as arms
muted surge
spark oyster
Fury sure is fun though.
late nacelle
Is the fury buffs live
Or is it tomorrow
Mby can drop the bt build and go for giga rampage
zenith marlin
bruh used a diff bar that starts much higher than my shitty home gym set up
Less RoM is actually harder for me tf
merry valley
Those buffs wont do anything for Fury
its the ducktape mentality
its weak, dmg buff
sharp meteor
Is the fury buffs live
should be live on na
stark agate
Play what you enjoy, Kings
sharp meteor
brain likes fury but wrists don't
quiet pendant
Am enjoying fury more than arms. I climb then get frost mage lobby and drop. Stuck in the mud
slender lion
frost mage is deffo our achillies heel
cerulean pecan
Everytime I see a FMage they're either trash and I can steam roll em or they're gods and I can't even touch them lol
torpid bolt
If fury get the pvp debuff for healing again , still would be weak?
elfin surge
Am enjoying fury more than arms. I climb then get frost mage lobby and drop. Stu...
stuck in what?
torpid bolt
I remember everyone at the start of dragonfight crying because fury was so strong
quiet pendant
@elfin surge loll
grand scaffold
Those buffs wont do anything for Fury
they have done 0 for fury
i tried playing it
grand scaffold
frost mage is deffo our achillies heel
and destro lock
merry valley
i tried playing it
how much Execute is hiting for?
merry valley
If fury get the pvp debuff for healing again , still would be weak?
40% perma ms is not healty for the game in any way
merry valley
Slaughterhouse was too strong, but what they did to it is just a crime
merry valley
Thing is, Fury isnt Rogue, he cant be gradualy nerfed, needs to be hammered
grand scaffold
-_-
sharp meteor
Fury getting put in the ground when Rogue gets a tiny bit of their ms shaved off. 
merry valley
Even in Shadowlands when Fury was prolly as strong is it ever been, it didnt have the same amount of play Sin has atm
grand scaffold
Even in Shadowlands when Fury was prolly as strong is it ever been, it didnt hav...
that was not fury's strongest point
it was not even close
mop was fury's peak
that shit was B A L L E R
pumped hard as shit
merry valley
as im aware, the only time Fury was good as in strong and very competitive was wod
dont remember Fury ever beeing at the top of melles
grand scaffold
as im aware, the only time Fury was good as in strong and very competitive was w...
s1 bfa
mop
scarlet barn
SL too
merry valley
Fury was the best melle in mop?
earnest wharf
so IF you were to play Fury, and your partner has an MS effect, would you not take slaughterhouse at all?
merry valley
so IF you were to play Fury, and your partner has an MS effect, would you not ta...
yep
onyx valve
Fury was the best melle in mop?
Warriors in general were strongā¦
earnest wharf
do you take that root break when playing against mages?
merry valley
do you take that root break when playing against mages?
yep
scarlet barn
Well you stated the question
I didnt compare which one was strongest
Im saying that SL later seasons fury was def strong
earnest wharf
disarm says significantly reduces impact - so it doesn't disable attacks but should be a big damage reduction for casters - is it ever worth taking into something like Ele where you get some opportunities to disarm to debuff their burst?
scarlet barn
It was even played in tournies to some extent
scarlet barn
disarm says significantly reduces impact - so it doesn't disable attacks but sho...
Nice meme again
sharp meteor
disarm says significantly reduces impact - so it doesn't disable attacks but sho...
I thought it reduced damage by 30% or something at one point.
earnest wharf
does it just reduce it by the INT on their weapon so small reduction?
sharp meteor
I did try Duel into aff to reduce their damage to my partners during sl.
earnest wharf
30% would be pretty significant
scarlet barn
sharp meteor
does it just reduce it by the INT on their weapon so small reduction?
No, the way it worked for pve was that it debuffed the target or something.
merry valley
30% dmg reduction on 45 cd
sharp meteor
You yoink wep, they do 30-50% reduced dam or something.
merry valley
strong
sharp meteor
Lord does the lvb that comes after prim wave and skyfury hurt
you kill skyfury insta hopefully but if you don't and they get a scend proc ur team loses like 600k hp
lean burrow
I thought it reduced damage by 30% or something at one point.
disarm removes weapon stats?
scarlet barn
No
earnest wharf
maybe it's worth considering if it's 30% DR for casters. If we have uptime and they're bursting our partner with our kick on CD, a short CD 30% DR seems pretty nice
scarlet barn
It doesnt dr casters
sharp meteor
disarm removes weapon stats?
no
it just disables stuff that requires weps
idk if it still debuffs i haven't checked
probs still not worth even if it does
just play duel in those situations
scarlet barn
It gives debuff yes but its not that you do reduced damage. Only thiing it does for casters is that they cant boink you on head with staff
Totally worth it š
earnest wharf
when i get home i'll duel a guildy and have him chaos bolt me in the face with and without disarm lol, if it just stops their AA that's awful
scarlet barn
Im pretty sure if it was hard DR on anybody, people would always pick it
And im pretty sure we tested it 2 or 3 years ago
earnest wharf
yea it prolly does nothing, but i like to check in case blizz does their behind the scenes shit and doesn't tell anyone lol
scarlet barn
I mean knock yourself out but its not how that works
slender lion
and destro lock
why destro?
slender lion
yeah, not had issues in solo's with destro as much as frost
mostly ele and frost tbh
fickle forge
disarm says significantly reduces impact - so it doesn't disable attacks but sho...
It doesn't
mild thunder
IT FUCKING DROPPED
Whatās the point? You canāt mog them
scarlet barn
You cant mog them on warrior
mild thunder
Demon hunters can mog it
mild thunder
If you get it in dh and do some other stuff
scarlet barn
Only on DH but you need to kill Illidan during Tw event
mild thunder
You still canāt lol
grand scaffold
You still canāt lol
and why is that
scarlet barn
After you aquired both on one char that can equip them
grand scaffold
youtube says i can
scarlet barn
A.k.a rogue, warrior or dh
mild thunder
You need to get glaives on dh, then clear time walking illidan
scarlet barn
Yes
mild thunder
Yes
grand scaffold
scarlet barn
So rekt
grand scaffold
i farmed it for a few years
mild thunder
Idk what YouTube video youāre watching
plucky sapphire
You can equip but only dhs can mog id they have the achievement
grand scaffold
And you need both as well pre sure
i have both of them
mild thunder
Yea, on the wrong class bud
mild thunder
Both on the demon hunter
scarlet barn
Not true
scarlet barn
Also
grand scaffold
i knew it
grand scaffold
mild thunder
Well, enjoy waiting
scarlet barn
grand scaffold
then my dh will look sick
green anchor
well you can't mog legendary items in general right?
scarlet barn
Exceptions exist such as this one
mild thunder
well you can't mog legendary items in general right?
Yes you can
mild thunder
No, warglaives are an exception
scarlet barn
You cant mog them
mild thunder
Hence the quest line
scarlet barn
Ndogo...
mild thunder
Go and try then mate
scarlet barn
Context
mild thunder
If google says so
mild thunder
Warrior cant mog glaives
No, google says so
scarlet barn
They made it specifically like that
scarlet barn
Idd
mild thunder
can't mog them on warr
But theyāre swords š¤”
grand scaffold
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/warglaives-of-azzinoth-transmog/564468
see
scarlet barn
Ndogo we talking different thing now
grand scaffold
bro
scarlet barn
š¤¦
grand scaffold
didnt you read the part where i said i wanted it for my dh
green anchor
lmfao
scarlet barn
Im out
grand scaffold
not my warrior
scarlet barn
Y'all cant google properly smh
mild thunder
yea dude, we all agreed on that already lmao
scarlet barn
grand scaffold
bruh
im literally not understanding what you mean today
i must be too sleepy
gn
scarlet barn
Not like i linked pic even
white forum
does the fury buffs change anything for pvp?
white forum
;/ I enjoy fury 10x more
unique fox
what comp you running?
mild thunder
arms assa disc
sharp meteor
rogue a little bit cracked when it's decent with warr
surprised there aren't many double assa teams
mild thunder
rogue a little bit cracked when it's decent with warr <:keks:936231610850897992>
Almost like it deserves actual nerfs
Waiting for the riot mmo 
worthy fern
Always know when a spec needs nerf because every s tier comp is just that spec plus x
Aka arms s2 slands
latent hazel
Always know when a spec needs nerf because every s tier comp is just that spec p...
aka every melee comp ever
but 2 big dam classes together
s+ comp
latent hazel
arms is not good
worthy fern
It is
mild thunder
arms is not good
lmao are you dumb or what
unique fox
i dunno how you guys play with bm hunters, feels like i just get kited by own team
mild thunder
i wouldnt say by far, but it's definitely the 2nd best melee
uhdk, feral, sub all very good
worthy fern
Arms and ass both a lot more versatile with comps
mild thunder
feral is very viable w/ comps... can work with just about any caster, as well as several melee
fickle forge
arms is not good
š£
white forum
what are macros you use for pvp? there is no channel here for that and also is this macro good?
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/cast Sharpen Blade
/cast Mortal Strike
mild thunder
yea, great macro
bis macro tbh
actually, change it to
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/cast Sharpen Blade
/cast Mortal Strike
/cast Ignore Pain
sharp meteor
what are macros you use for pvp? there is no channel here for that and also is t...
I think that's fine for sharpen.
Just obviously have a standalone ms.
mild thunder
i mean
wtf is the point lmao... create an extra macro to sharpen + ms, you end up with the exact same amount of keybinds as you would with just a sharpen bind
white forum
yeah i have that
mild thunder
fuck bm, im rerolling ret
junior haven
I want to start doing some pvp. Im 417ilvl fully decked out for pve. Should I just craft all the pvp gear ro can I get by with what I have? Vers is real low at 5-6%
and a shit ton of haste xd
summer tiger
I want to start doing some pvp. Im 417ilvl fully decked out for pve. Should I ju...
you're gonna get deleted but honestly just go with your pve shit in bgs and get the honor set
summer tiger
honor cap or something around it
it's preety quick
Actually might be like 12k-ish idk I don't remember.
junior haven
its 15k right now. got some bloody tokens too, like 2.5k
the vendor is where the dummys are at right?
mild thunder
how much honor would I need for the set btw
11k
sharp meteor
It's 11-12k for a full set but realistically you only need like 8-9k.
Because you get the 1 421 trophy piece then 2 424 crafted pieces with boa primals.
summer tiger
yup yup, and bloody tokens you use for drakebreaker gear, which you upgrade with trophies of strife from spark quest
and that's your pre-conquest gear pmuch, you just fill out missing pieces with that
untill you get em
mild thunder
https://www.twitch.tv/joefernandes123/clip/ClearBlushingCourgetteHumbleLife-pjOP...
never seen a joe stream... not sure what i was expecting, but it wasn't that voice
junior haven
Got it. Thanks!
mild thunder
dont waste time on bloody token gear this late in the season, it's barely worth it
conq is uncapped
sharp meteor
me when i play 2s
mild thunder
certified classic
rotund trellis
jesus
sharp meteor
gz mud
sharp meteor
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-orc-hair-colors-in-patch-10-0-7-and-new-tags-on...
more options are fine and easy but good grief always orcs and humans
goblins still using cata hair
mystic prairie
5 days into wow. Some decent SSs throughout the day, getting a little bit of rating. Then nightly SS getting all caster lobbies where my teammate gets bursted down immediately although I use all my toolkit to save them, going 0-6, TWICE in a row. That's ain't motivating me...
mild thunder
more options are fine and easy but good grief always orcs and humans
100 hair colours and they cant even give orcs eyebrows ffs
and apparently as an azerothian human you have to be black or asian to have facial scars
sharp meteor
the facial restrictions are kind of awk but i just use the one serious looking face so
wish they hadn't ruined bun hair
mild thunder
i know but i wanna give my geralt-ripoff badass scars
sharp meteor
https://www.twitch.tv/joefernandes123/clip/LitigiousSmallNostrilOSsloth-zLlYT9qp...
knock poly root poly
alter time then jump off
we love blades edge
elfin surge
spice hornet
Blades edge with blazing knock back omgggg
spice hornet
carmine frigate
Is battlelord a bad talent to take?
sharp meteor
Is battlelord a bad talent to take?
It's too good not to take.
carmine frigate
meep I feel like this is troll š¦
carmine frigate
@sharp meteor okay make sense thank you good sir!
onyx valve
Heās for sure making multiple appearances on the YT SS Rage channel this week
thick reef
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Catboynahj
lmao thats my feral friend
mild thunder
https://www.twitch.tv/joefernandes123/clip/LitigiousSmallNostrilOSsloth-zLlYT9qp...
is it possible to not get tilted by that game?
rotund trellis
do you guys have a macro for charge + heroic throw?
sharp meteor
is it possible to not get tilted by that game?
i only really tilt off my teammates tilting
every rogue gonna look like this in a few days
mild thunder
i just dont like the shoulders
everything else is cool
also what fucking model is that
crisp jewel
Darkmoon dork
mild thunder
it looks like something out of Fable
crisp jewel
Wow it does
Only played the first one when it came out. Made all the evilest of choices
spice hornet
i like how slippery arcane is
while youre getting railed by his assassination buddy
mild thunder
i like how slippery arcane is
im sorry, did you say "nerf enhancement"?
slender lion
š¤£
cerulean pecan
im sorry, did you say "nerf enhancement"?
You misspelled rogue
slender lion
Can't believe how many arms/disc I faced last night in 2s. Jesus
mild thunder
You misspelled rogue
i dont think you understand the joke, bud
unique fox
assa disc man lol, what a comp
im bannering kidneys, bladestorming openers every game and still ahve to play for my life
but hey 5% hemotoxin nerf
torpid prawn
Is Fury comparable to Arms now or is arms still the go to after recent updates?
sharp meteor
Probably not but there's only one way to find out.
slender lion
This is very cool
steel trout
grand scaffold
https://www.twitch.tv/joefernandes123/clip/LitigiousSmallNostrilOSsloth-zLlYT9qp...
š
torpid roost
You misspelled rogue
Rouges are overpowdered
tranquil raven
Fury buffs felt okay
What build did you play? Mind sharing?
steep inlet
i'm doing thunder-rend + storm of swords tests
it can be dangerous
just checking globals and rage
maybe i will have a problem here
mild thunder
i'm doing thunder-rend + storm of swords tests
imo if you run a build like that you'll probably want bloodsurge
frank knoll
What build did you play? Mind sharing?
Was playing the annihilator/roar/bloodbath build
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mild thunder
yea imo storm can work
but i dropped rend to do it, trying to make an "i hate rend" testbuild for the people that always complain about it
kinda hard to tell how much thunder clap damage is real and how much is just pad tho
mild thunder
it's probably handy into high-pet stuff because the ss rend will just get soaked by a pet ig
probably good into bm especially, since cleaving their pets is so effective atm
spark oyster
Was playing the annihilator/roar/bloodbath build
How do you like fresh meat? I like slaughtering strikes, personally. Especially with the rampage buff.
Hereās mine. Pretty standard.
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grand scaffold
@mild thunder
spark oyster
<@589020053748449300>
Trying OS again? How do you like it?
grand scaffold
whats os
spark oyster
Using it with Raging blow and Crushing blow?
frank knoll
I play the RB onslaught build too, I havenāt tested it with the new buffs yet though
Had like 45 mins to play last night, then my wife wanted to catch up on our shows lol
Smexxin has like 40% mastery lmao
spark oyster
Whatās your hybrid setup if you donāt mind linking? I have been wondering if dropping the extra point below OF and taking just onslaught would be better damage.
grand scaffold
its the one magnuzs is playing
spare basalt
So has anyone managed to try out fury changes properly to give us an understanding if it's actually worth using in pvp
spark oyster
Interesting, so favor using rb and onslaught but use bloodbath when avail or when on enraged regen?
grand scaffold
idk yet
spark oyster
It looks fun. Gonna try it.
grand scaffold
are you guys finding fury dmg high?
quaint snow
does arms feel weaker / different with the new stamina buffs from pvp trinkets?
quaint snow
are you guys finding fury dmg high?
imo as fury outside roar, avatar, reck i feel i canāt have enough pressureā¦.only with cds up, but even then. Im only 1900mmr as fury tough - havent tested new buffs yet
elfin surge
this + mage tower set? Pog?
grand scaffold
@elfin surge have you tried fury lately?
elfin surge
no
grand scaffold
ok
weak wedge
mild thunder
this + mage tower set? Pog?
damn mud, i didn't know you were colourblind
full quiver
worthy fern
@weak wedge whereās that from
lucid walrus
trading post
worthy fern
Oh is there new stuff?
worthy fern
Watt and the black hood and cloak
Trading post is sick this month
Both plate and mail sets pretty nice too
Would be 10x sicker if I wasnāt a dwarf
limber wagon
is mage tower up always now ? or do i have to wait for an event?
grand scaffold
is mage tower up always now ? or do i have to wait for an event?
its always up
sage raptor
remember the retards crying about evokers getting conduits?
I wonder where they are now
balmy solar
On the wow forums?
frank knoll
are you guys finding fury dmg high?
Unbuffed (meaning no slaughtering strikes) rampages tics were hitting for 15-20k last night, with avatar up or whatever
Before it would be like 10-13k for me
frank knoll
So decent
grand scaffold
its not op tho
frank knoll
Probably crank out a 150k rampage with spear, slaughtering strikes, avatar, badge
grand scaffold
Unbuffed (meaning no slaughtering strikes) rampages tics were hitting for 15-20k...
im just saying
with 15% buff
mathematically impossible
frank knoll
Mage can do that over and over with glacial spike
Well, thatās what I saw on details. Probably still up
I can send u the screen shot when I get home
mystic prairie
tier set 4pc (no boots) > conquest?
azure geyser
Where do I find the highest rated warriors?
azure geyser
Thanks š
frank knoll
I did do it on a player
It was during a random BG though, I didnāt use pots or have buff if that means anything
radiant hamlet
thundrous roar or spear in solo shuffles?
radiant hamlet
ty
kindred sedge
Actually thats kind of misleading. What I really mean to say is if your playing into pets the spear+unhinged build is kinda bad.
analog meadow
anyone have a good stance weakaura?
radiant hamlet
Actually thats kind of misleading. What I really mean to say is if your playing ...
does spear always have to be with unhinged though?
kindred sedge
no
Typically it is, but you can build your stuff however you want lol
the bonus to crit damage you get with spear stacked with the MS's from double bladestorm just means bigger dam in a shorter window usually.
not to meantion keeping your target pinned down for the duration of your burst
radiant hamlet
i see. ty
worthy fern
@full quiver I gotta sick mog rn
All black armor black hoody and back sword with black slands enchant
worthy fern
Yea itās too expensive for me
lucid walrus
tfw no sl s1 droolist illusion
frank knoll
Smexxin is using Lariat and titanic insight ring?
sharp meteor
ya but dont worry about crafted pve stuff unless u can make it 418
grand scaffold
Smexxin fury build is pretty good
you gaining cr with it?
silver portal
Just posted it in the Fury main channel by mistake. So here the question:
Hi everyone, new here and have a more or less general question about PvP. I am a new lvl 70 Fury warrior, ilvl is 344, no pvp gear. So yeah, the gear is pretty bad, but help me understand something. I have a feeling when I enter BG's, I do like no dmg but I die very fast. My hits feel very weak, while I get absolutely smashed by other classes / or warriors. Is this just a gear thing, do I need much more versatility, or am I doing something very wrong haha? I was under impression that when we enter BG our stats get somewhat boosted / aligned with other players? Thank you very much in advance!
fresh bronze
having no pvp gear is basically like playing naked you are not gonna do anything
silver portal
having no pvp gear is basically like playing naked you are not gonna do anything
Right š„¹
fresh bronze
wow gear scaling is just that crazy having just 344 ilvl with no pvp gear which scales to 411 that gap is huge
silver portal
Well on to getting some pvp gear then, thanks
fresh bronze
u can buy green pvp gear from action house if u have the gold its not really that expensive and it scales to 398 in bgs which should make it better
queen shoal
The gear scaling is so dumb. If you want to world pvp you have to switch your gear again? Its dumb
dark sparrow
Just posted it in the Fury main channel by mistake. So here the question:
Hi ev...
That scaling is pre 70 bgs, once you hit 70 and enter a bg with that gear, your just walking dead man as a warrior
dark sparrow
The gear scaling is so dumb. If you want to world pvp you have to switch your ge...
Huh?
frank knoll
@grand scaffold do you run the 4 set as fury
earnest wharf
For fury it's 4 set minus helm slot for crafted piece, same as Arms. But haste/mastery is more dmg than heavy crit. You still have plenty of vers in BiS gear so losing it in a couple slots is OK for the extra dmg 4 pc gives
torpid roost
You only don't have vers in 1 slot
(Gloves)
And the execute buff makes fury tier way more interesting
mild thunder
for fury it's more about the haste you lose than the vers
torpid roost
Aye, that's an issue
mild thunder
And the execute buff makes fury tier way more interesting
fury tier is shit
it's ~2% dps
torpid roost
It's like 2.2% now
mild thunder
wowzers
torpid roost
Very worth š¤£
Also where are you getting those numbers? Sounds like the pve numbers
Pve fury has a way more crowded rotation
mild thunder
i dont think so
isnt pve fury just infinite raging blow spam, with occasional onslaughts?
prime fern
Anyone can recommend a guide to get into PvP with warr?
wheat jay
full quiver
Lol
spice hornet
why does mage always have alter time lmao
spice hornet
so stupid
wooden grove
lmao
Tbh premade is a little less gladiator than being thrown in a ring with 5 randoms and going at it
spice hornet
i hate boomy damage profile
junior haven
do we need the raid set for pvp?
spark oyster
Anyone can recommend a guide to get into PvP with warr?
Recommend you start with the pinned messages, you could also look at some of the top pvpers builds. Do searches of this discord, as simple rotations have been mentioned many times.
sharp meteor
do we need the raid set for pvp?
Conquest gear thrown into the converter isn't really a raid set.
mild thunder
Conquest gear thrown into the converter isn't really a raid set.
What slot for unity?
spark oyster
Smexxin fury build is pretty good
Are you running the high mastery like he is?
tawdry nexus
Hey, question about stats I am currently 424 arms using the 4 piece set for solo shuffle. All my pieces minus the set piece, crafted helm and boots have vers crit. Since I now have 10% crit chance with mortal and execute using the 2p i have currently 42% crit with mortal and execute. Base crit in pvp is actually 32%. Point I am getting to I guess is I am seeing all these same ilvl arms warriors dropping crit since getting the 2p set for 10% mortal crit. I also think I read once you get the 2p you should drop your crit to about 20% during pvp combat so in reality you're execute and mortal will be hitting at 30% if this is the case should I reallocate all that crit into haste? I saw some good arms warrior rocking 23% haste with 19% base crit using 2p
mild thunder
Hey, question about stats I am currently 424 arms using the 4 piece set for solo...
This the longest, most convoluted āstat prio?ā Iāve ever read
Just take whatever mix of crit/haste you find works best. Some warriors are full crit, some full haste, most are a solid mix of both
tawdry nexus
I guess I am full vers crit been collecting haste vers and a lot of mastery vers. I will have to tweak with them but wasnt sure if it was a set standard to drop any crit for haste is all
torpid prawn
lol
junior haven
do we want honor/conquest gear? Or a high M+/Raid piece with a lot of vers works? Im brand new to pvp
I see a lot of people have like a ton of health, guessing pvp gear has a lot more stamina
spark oyster
Yep go smack someone and have fun. Iām a big fan of wpvp. I just have to figure out how to survive longer once I get assassin lol. But is there even a reason to survive other than the glory?
sharp meteor
pvp gear scales in wpvp?
Only in pvp combat.
junior haven
more dmg? Its pretty straightforward
rotund trellis
at the cost of haste though
ebon pivot
going 0/6 cause when I use all my defensives and sit Dstance, neither healer can keep me up
feels good
lose 70 rating. bye bye getting back to 1700 lol
rotund trellis
2v2s ROGUE/LOCK make me want to throw up
but I managed to get to 1600 on 2s
pretty happy
spice hornet
@elfin surge so we ever gonna have that duel ?
spice hornet
fastest ive ever seen mud respond
rotund trellis
ACTUALLY 2S VS rogue mage make me want to surrender on opening
high star
warr good vs that
rotund trellis
oh sure
high star
just gotta be gigachad and disrupt their gos
thick reef
ACTUALLY 2S VS rogue mage make me want to surrender on opening
Never surrender to those rogue/mages man, gotta show them scumbags who the real chad is (you the warrior)
rotund trellis
losing in 4 seconds from opening? k
high star
ye warrior is like super ideal class to fight the rm opener
u just gotta learn how to play it
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> do you run the 4 set as fury
yeah
high star
remember you can wall in bs, so if you gonna trinket opener immediately bladestorm
rotund trellis
Doing something wrong
I literally trinketed and died
rotund trellis
2v2 rogue/disc, disc did 100% more damage than rogue. k blizz
mild thunder
disc does 30k dps??? time to nerf enhance
ebon pivot
Nerf everyone. Buff rogue, disc and hunters please
rotund trellis
disc does 30k dps??? time to nerf enhance <:okayge:917646812519739433>
time to nerf prto pala
craggy socket
how does fury feel after the buffs for solo
copper hare
keep nerfing enhance, unreal there is one in every awc team and also dominating the ladder while not even have to press cross cc
right?
rotund trellis
how does fury feel after the buffs for solo
I'm loving it
craggy socket
Fasho dustin' off the old warrior gona hit up some arms but I wanna try fury for the ultra zug zug
mild thunder
how does fury feel after the buffs for solo
done beating your wife?
ebon pivot
Maybe I'm confused about how MMR works but if I started tonight off at 1650 CR with equal MMR, lose 0/6 drop down to about 1540, with a 1510 MMR, lose 4/2, drop down to 1502 now with a 1430 MMR, lose 4/2 again drop to 1445 CR with no change to MMR, then go 3/3 how do i get 0 CR change (that i get) with now a 1330 MMR
sharp meteor
just win more
ebon pivot
trying
steep cairn
If ur blade masters should I sweeping before avatar to cleave the mortal strike procs
mild thunder
Yes
steep cairn
Ty!
copper hare
it is
sharp meteor
I'm a collection schizo so I don't mind.
Always plenty of old raids to run while waiting.
copper hare
If you're like unemployed and only play pvp, the shuffle queue is probably fine but
otherwise it's pretty ridic
sharp meteor
Oh, yeah, if you're popping on in the evening with two hours to queue then it's awful.
sharp meteor
Need to have a healer if you need quick queues.
copper hare
I said it in pre patch already that it's gonna be the same or even worse and people said I'm an idiot it will be soooo much better because sooo many more people r gonna play, but the pacing of the game got even worse and not a single healer in this game wants to play his role anymore
sharp meteor
Ye, 20 minute queue, pop, dodged, 20 minutes until next pop so I assume it's bugged and drop. 5 minutes later get a pop, watch fotm disc go 0-6 and get minimal mmr change.
Hour goes by.
copper hare
it got like a tiny bit better with my 2.8+ mmr chars but my alts still wait AT LEAST 40-50 min per queue
sharp meteor
My boogery 412 alt with no enchants at 800 literal cr was 42 minutes earlier
copper hare
hope they increase mmr inflation again so we normal people are able to push glad soon at least
fuck shuffle
sharp meteor
It's fun. Shitty for healing, though.
Like, an actual instant headache.
Me running out of barrier with 5% hp to execute somebody with parry up probably just about gave my Priest a stroke.
torpid prawn
i don't understand how folks can hit even 1800 with these wait times
copper hare
shuffle itself is great but it doesn't work out with keeping 2s/3s competitive and also sucks donkey dick because it makes even more healers quit
sharp meteor
Ye I was enjoying my shitter healer alts in SL and wanted to heal shuffle but fuck this.
Then again I was gonna play rsham and that just looks
horrific right now
copper hare
Yeah I played some on my rsham alt aswell
people insta moving out of earthern wall (your only useful cd in pvp), not using def cds and then insta complaining about heal
like 1.9 max people
sharp meteor
queue up at 2200 and it's one rmt selfplay then a r1 team
fickle forge
But on the flip side, no RMP/MLX spam šš
torpid prawn
lol
sharp meteor
honestly give me back the rmps idc
if they aren't like top 5 its chillin
comp felt more reasonable towards end of sl
fickle forge
: )
sharp meteor
but next season they will make shuffle much harder to push then bump up 2s and 3s
curious if they do anything else
fickle forge
Yo this idiot just trinketed the combustion + triple resonator go, what an idiot, he dies in duel next go, we win
Good job boys
limber relic
Idk why they cant make it so u can make a lfg team while u do solo shuffle
sharp meteor
Presumably because they don't want people dipping because "queue pop".
limber relic
Dipping?
sharp meteor
Leaving the group because their queue popped.
Similar reason why queues are paused when you're in another form of instanced combat.
shut ibex
is arms or fury better for pvp atm ? š®
lean burrow
i prefer legs spec
spark oyster
Ah, the legs spec
limber relic
Similar reason why queues are paused when you're in another form of instanced co...
U could stil be in your group while doing solo shuffle
Like u can q solo shuffle and do skirmish rightnow just like that.
So you should be able to do solo shuffle while looking for a 3s team. Then i guess when u get your team you can leave solo shuffle Q
steep inlet
hope they increase mmr inflation again so we normal people are able to push glad...
currently 2360 mmr (EU) and fighting R1-AWC players every 2 matchs
fuck that
exhausting
copper hare
exhausting
fickle forge
i prefer legs spec
Forearms spec
steep inlet
3's is still lower cr than shuffle
true
grand scaffold
aha
limber relic
Rip
grand scaffold
its rough
limber relic
Yeah i tested out some talents. Big misstake
grand scaffold
happens
limber relic
Back to roar build
grand scaffold
i want 3k really badly
limber relic
Same
limber relic
I want 420 ratings. Even cooler
Jk
But 3k looks nice. Looks even š
Is 12% haste enough for roar or should i go 15%? š¤š¤
limber relic
Ive got 12 cuz of the 2% haste talents
I might swap out my trinket for the crit on use trinket
Not rly feeling the alacrity trink
Whats the cd on alacrity btw? Anyone knows?
If there even is a cd on it
wheat canopy
Sup Babes.
I've always struggled with panic button mashing.
With so much going on, il end up shitting the bed on a critical point in a fight.
How did/do you mitigate this?
compact oak
Is it just me being new to melee and overwhelmed or is melee gameplay really insanely much faster than caster gameplay?
wheat canopy
Hard to say for me, cause Ive never really enjoyed playing caster.
Melees always been hyperspeed for me. Ive always struggled with being overwhelmed by it.
This is the first time ive really ever asked how anyones dealt with it.
compact oak
One definitely cannot pick Warrior, press W and zug to win games. I can't even survive 5 seconds vs melee or 10 sec vs ranged
I'm guessing that the typical arena "zugger" around 1600 is actually someone who's played Warrior or similar classes for several expacs in a row
Are there are any possible tips for not being overwhelmed by the amount of things I need to do simultaneously on a second-by-second basis?
The 3-button rotation doesn't hurt anybody and my stun->spear->avatar tickles people, but none of that matters because I'm also dying at the same time
grand scaffold
The 3-button rotation doesn't hurt anybody and my stun->spear->avatar tickles pe...
dont play spear
compact oak
Spell Reflect monentarily slows my demise, fear is 1.5 min CD instantly trinketed and DbtS is the only time period I might be alive and might manage to hit one Impending Victory for the heal
disarm is cool though, always works
the best thing against casters š„²
take the wand away
compact oak
dont play spear
Thunderous Roar at 500 rating?
compact oak
reasons please š
wheat canopy
reasons please š
Bleed build do slap.
compact oak
ok, disregarding being able to land the damage - how do I not die in the opener?
enemy doesn't need to open with CDs on me, I'm just in a one-way decline
undone pumice
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quasi lotus
ok, disregarding being able to land the damage - how do I not die in the opener?
Healers cant heal at dogshit mmr so you die easier but that also applies to the enemy
Just run at something and press all your buttons til it dies
Tis the fury way
wheat canopy
Pop die by sword and sit in D stance i guess lol
prime fern
If we had to rate Fury / Arms out of 10 in PvP how much would you give each?
frank knoll
Yeah Iāll say, I have an easier time dealing with all of the ele/Destro/frost mage lobbies as fury
compact oak
@lean burrow does Fury handle a ranged lobby any better?
spark oyster
can you check pvp mmr without queueing
Was wondering this. Havenāt found yet.
spark oyster
<@299170706749652992> does Fury handle a ranged lobby any better?
my take why fury handles ranged ādecentlyā better is because of battle trance and the option of taking blood rage.
lean burrow
<@299170706749652992> does Fury handle a ranged lobby any better?
maybe a bit because of blood rage
arms still got more damage and bladestorm
mild thunder
arms still got more damage and bladestorm
fury damage feels really good, it's just all single-target
cleaving feels really clunky
hot solstice
Is 2s boosting still a thing? Real Raiku
latent hazel
Is 2s boosting still a thing? Real Raiku
yes ofc it is
dark sparrow
go to his stream and send
i did this with my priest in sl to bualock when demo was so op and we played pillar all game, and beat him like 3x in a row while he was crying why we dont leave pillar
we got banned from his stream
craggy socket
done beating your wife?
LMAO yes
grand scaffold
fury damage feels really good, it's just all single-target
what build?
mine feels eh
limber relic
I played against phishero in solo1