pvp

[quick carbon]

crit is most fun stat

tho

[mild thunder]

exe precision

[boreal veldt]

Ye

[mild thunder]

exploiter

[latent hazel]

fury on raz is just pad damage

[thick reef]

Thanks

[latent hazel]

you dont do any important damage at all

[thick reef]

Sorry haven’t played in month

[boreal veldt]

The add damage is important

[latent hazel]

only the big add

[drifting jacinth]

retarded take

[latent hazel]

the rest die anyhow

[latent hazel]

link logs

[boreal veldt]

How do they die

HOW

[latent hazel]

from aoe

what

[boreal veldt]

Not yours?

Coward

[drifting jacinth]

you say that when you cant say anything else

[latent hazel]

i mean your answers

is basicly a non asnwer

you just say "no" without anything to ad

[drifting jacinth]

how tf does linking my logs prove that im giving non answers

[latent hazel]

riku even went arms for limits first kill

lol

[boreal veldt]

Comeon platform ads dying quick is good and furys real good at aoe damage

[latent hazel]

to see if you know what you are talking about

have you even done the boss?

[latent hazel]

idk bro sometimes we afk for 4 sec

baiting breath

overkill

[boreal veldt]

What team you on bro, this is a warrior disc

[drifting jacinth]

that doesnt change spec rankings lmfao

and yea ive done the boss

[high star]

i dont understand a word u pve guys are saying

[thick reef]

Same

[mild thunder]

i'll paraphrase

[latent hazel]

red side

[mild thunder]

Gecar is saying "i'm bad and have shit opinions"

[boreal veldt]

I GOT BAITED INTO PVE, shame me

[thick reef]

We are bad at fury and fury is harder then arms as well @mild thunder

Thst was said as well

[drifting jacinth]

u got cuck opinions most of the time

not regarding warrior tho

[mild thunder]

most coherent fury player

[latent hazel]

imagine arms is not even 1k dps behind

[thick reef]

Fr LOl

[latent hazel]

while mainly doing single target damage

and fury mega padding on the small stormlings

[mild thunder]

he mistyped

get him!!!

[latent hazel]

damn i lost

gg

[mild thunder]

debate lost 🤓

[boreal veldt]

We all mistyped, nothing of pvp was said

[thick reef]

U lost ur takes suck!!!!!

[latent hazel]

if you play fury for raz and you are on red side

you are griefing

end of story

[drifting jacinth]

I see how much you emotionally invested in arms

[thick reef]

Bro

People love arms

[mild thunder]

yes, and?

[thick reef]

It’s our bread and butter spec

Lol

Nothing to be ashamed off while playing arms

[latent hazel]

its just strictly better

[mild thunder]

"I see how much you emotionally invested in arms" 🤓

[latent hazel]

if you wanna be a part of the hivemind play fury

[boreal veldt]

[thick reef]

^

[drifting jacinth]

u just mad we the bloodz and u the bitchass cripz

[mild thunder]

while we collectively dogpile him for not playing arms

[thick reef]

Fr

[mild thunder]

you we the bloodz

most coherent fury player

[thick reef]

Idk what this means

[mild thunder]

also

[drifting jacinth]

fuark

[mild thunder]

why would you use u and you in the same sentence

[thick reef]

Ah

[mild thunder]

did you gain energy halfway through typing?

[high star]

i play arms because i dont want to learn another spec

what ofit

[drifting jacinth]

fuck debate lost cause of syntax 😔

[high star]

brain small

arms big

[mild thunder]

fury is for people that say they're gonna beat their wives after 1-5 shuffle lobby

(real)

[thick reef]

LMAOO

[boreal veldt]

Lmfaooo

[drifting jacinth]

yall are malding over fury

idk if im bald enough to win this nerd war

[mystic barn]

temples receding

[drifting jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfield-george-constanza-eat-rootbeer-gif-9494836

[thick reef]

We just love arms

[mystic barn]

https://youtu.be/vuFLyox0W_g

[drifting jacinth]

I mean the bottom-line is that Fury is just as viable as Arms in pve

[boreal veldt]

Ye

[drifting jacinth]

only thing I argued was that arms was dogshit for vault before blizz had to buff its multi-target

[thick reef]

I’m not sure about pve tbh with you, my take on pve would be dogshit but I just feel like arms is harder then fury utility wise

A little more to pay attention to

[high star]

arms is good at fighting healers because of mortal strike

[thick reef]

Mainly pvp

[high star]

while fury is better at fighting melee because he has two swords

[boreal veldt]

Big ye

[high star]

thats my pve take on the specs

[mild thunder]

fury is better at fighting... nothing

in pvp

mildly better on some pve fights maybe

[mystic barn]

fury gets cucked in ss since it’s dcd is healing

[drifting jacinth]

real raiders know that it depends on the needs of your group 🤓

[boreal veldt]

Fury is chaotic so it's great sub 1800

[thick reef]

It’s good at like 1400 2s

Then it just starts to fall off

[boreal veldt]

Truu

[mild thunder]

arms' main weakness before 10.0.5 was that the talent tree pigeonholed you into one dmg profile
now that that isn't as much of an issue anymore, i don't see any real need to play fury anywhere

unless you wanna pad

single-target? arms is better
2-target cleave? arms is better
burst aoe? arms is better
sustained aoe? fury may edge us out, depending on number of targets

[drifting jacinth]

player preference, arguing about anything else makes you a nerd

[high star]

^

[mild thunder]

if you prefer fury, fuck off

[high star]

if i dont wanna play it then im not gonna so ur not gonna have a raider

[mild thunder]

[high star]

gigabrain

[thick reef]

These emotes are top notch no cap

[mild thunder]

[drifting jacinth]

got a muggle hating wizard right here

[mild thunder]

except in this instance, hating fury is justified

i dont hate fury players, i pity them

it's not their fault they're deranged

[boreal veldt]

As fury I've never hit someone for 170'000 in df so I'm staying arms till

[high star]

as fury ive never

[mild thunder]

as fury ive never

[quick carbon]

trying sks here galachad

i hope i like it

zzz

[thick reef]

As fury I couldn’t even

[drifting jacinth]

Ive only played arms for pvp

[thick reef]

Good

[mild thunder]

what's the lobby?

[thick reef]

That’s the right away

[rotund trellis]

yoyoy good evening lads

[thick reef]

Way

[quick carbon]

dh

ww

ele

just sending dam

here

[thick reef]

Ur doing the right thing

By playing arms

[drifting jacinth]

cuz arms has a simpler damage rotation imo

[mild thunder]

yea fair, but if it doesnt do great i reserve the right to say it's not a great sks lobby

[high star]

ive never played most classes but like

[boreal veldt]

Good in pvp

[thick reef]

Both are easy to pick up but I feel like arms is harder overall

[high star]

i dont really recall any incredibly hard rotations in this game

[boreal veldt]

We zug

[mild thunder]

there's no such thing as "hard" specs anymore in pve

[thick reef]

Yea

[high star]

think hardest i ever played was like powershifting feral lol

[mild thunder]

anyone that thinks their spec is actually hard is

[drifting jacinth]

I mean pvp you always have to play the meta

[mild thunder]

YOU always have to play the meta

dont project

[drifting jacinth]

shutup nerd

[high star]

or meleeweave hunter in classic was pretty mechanical but still wouldnt call it "hard"

[thick reef]

Thst szs

[boreal veldt]

True!

[thick reef]

Was fun learning

[mild thunder]

you're the one that said it, bud

[thick reef]

It wasn’t hard it just took practice

That’s how I think of it

[high star]

id been doing it since pservers so my exp was more like

[drifting jacinth]

cause pvp is 100% harder than pve

[high star]

teaching other ppl to do it lol

[thick reef]

It’s fun af

I remember learning it

Felt so cool

[high star]

ye when you get it just right

you feel like a god

[mild thunder]

if you're chasing meta, you're probably bad and need to play meta to get carried

[thick reef]

I was struggling bc I had a fast weapon

[thick reef]

Ya fr

[drifting jacinth]

not playing the meta in pvp is way more of a handicap than pve

[high star]

parsed so many 100s in MC because ppl hadnt learned the meta yet ll

[boreal veldt]

@drifting jacinth what's your longest cd in pcp

[high star]

using the strat polearm lol

[thick reef]

POG

I had rok bow

So it was harder

[drifting jacinth]

havent done ketamine in a while

[thick reef]

Didn’t have BWL bow

[high star]

ah yeah this was legit first week

[boreal veldt]

LMAO

[high star]

MW doesnt really pop off until BWL

when u get both ash weps

[thick reef]

Yea

[boreal veldt]

Fuk you that's funny

[drifting jacinth]

ad hominem doesnt make u smart

[mild thunder]

playing meta doesnt make you good

[drifting jacinth]

stop making imaginary arguments lmfao

never said u need to play meta

I only mentioned it as a comparison to pve

[mild thunder]

i mean

interpret that as you will

[drifting jacinth]

well for most people

[boreal veldt]

I mean odds are, regardless of fury or arms. If you zug too hard away from heals... or heals bad cest la vie

[drifting jacinth]

I think its more time efficient

more of an opinionated take

[high star]

eh

i never played fury even when meta because like

[mild thunder]

another L take

[high star]

my skillcap already high with arms

[mild thunder]

jesus, do you ever stop

[thick reef]

yea

[high star]

feel like itd be shitty if i swapped fury

[thick reef]

yeah prob

if ur good with arms

u were prob fine

[drifting jacinth]

nope

[thick reef]

there was people making it work

[high star]

ye exactly never had probs getting to where my skill cap is rating wise

[mild thunder]

you actually think it's more worthwhile to chase meta every few weeks/months than to actually learn one spec and master it? holy fuck

[high star]

even when not meta lol

[thick reef]

exactly

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-brain-dumped-useless-gif-13975529

https://tenor.com/view/old-no-brain-brains-out-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7878833

[drifting jacinth]

depends on what u want lmfao

stop sperging

[mild thunder]

i cant anymore

i need to replenish my braincells

[boreal veldt]

Question

[thick reef]

sup

[boreal veldt]

Do yall run banner again dragon bois?

[drifting jacinth]

go debate anime fights or politics

[mild thunder]

anime

[thick reef]

why u edit it

[drifting jacinth]

cause I thought it was better lol

[onyx valve]

What the fuck is going on in here

[thick reef]

ah fair

[drifting jacinth]

Gala's bein a debatelord

[onyx valve]

Tbf, you did say meta was necessary

[drifting jacinth]

true

[rotund trellis]

1v1 vs disc. he DESTROYED me

[onyx valve]

It’s not, PvE or PvP

[rotund trellis]

I mean, even if I'm SHIT, I'm a 424 fully geared 2 sockets warrior

[onyx valve]

Disc is nasty 1v1

[rotund trellis]

I mean wtf blizzard!? 😄

[mild thunder]

1v1 against anything, you lose

[drifting jacinth]

I only said that because pvp has more choice factor's in what gives you an advantage over someone

[mild thunder]

Arms is not built for solo PvP

[onyx valve]

If you’re constantly rerolling meta, unless you’re like top 5%, you probably don’t understand the class/mechanical interactions and intricacies.

[mild thunder]

Meta is not the reason you’re losing games

[drifting jacinth]

constantly rerolling meta classes is a big waste of time lol

meta specs is a different story

[mild thunder]

Chasing meta is just a way to try and avoid learning from your mistakes and will not make you a better player

[onyx valve]

Look at all the FotM DHs or Disc who get dumpstered regularly because they 1) can’t actually play and 2) don’t know how classes play into one another.

Who the fuck talks about chasing meta in regards to playing one class and changing between specs…

[drifting jacinth]

you have more of a choice between your spec than your class

unless you boost

[boreal veldt]

Lots of people are dropping Warr in pvp because we don't do DH damage

[onyx valve]

Bro, this expansion has made gearing/leveling brain dead easy. You can boost in an hour and gear in like 3.

[drifting jacinth]

im talking about 1 to 60

[onyx valve]

1-70 is less than 3 hours

[mild thunder]

Woah

Not less than 3

6 hours like the world record lol

[onyx valve]

I’m talking with Brack boost

[mild thunder]

But 1-60 doable in ~5 hours if you’re a normal player, not boosting

[drifting jacinth]

I think hes talking about the amount of time it takes to get your parents credit card

[onyx valve]

Not solo leveling

[mild thunder]

Why would you waste gold or money boosting when solo leveling is so easy

People are so lazy

[onyx valve]

Because friends do it for free?

[mild thunder]

What are those

[drifting jacinth]

money solves any inconvenience

lifes p2w

[onyx valve]

And even if I had to pay, 300k is chump change

[boreal veldt]

Do we think dark iron racials are that big? Big question

[mild thunder]

No

[boreal veldt]

No

[onyx valve]

Dwarf in general strong but not necessary

[mild thunder]

Racials aren’t that big of a deal, yes DI is best but play whatever is most fun

If you’re not pushing r1. Just play aesthetics

[boreal veldt]

Fuck ye

We should all be pushing (warrior best class)

[rotund trellis]

guys what you think of my build?

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkkQIpVKJBAAAAkQkIakAERDJJwBoIRIBIJRCAAAAAAAARKJHICA0QA

[drifting jacinth]

I miss when WoW was about a race war

[boreal veldt]

[torpid roost]

Dark Iron is one of the only racials I'd say matters

Shadowmeld also is pretty clutch in high end pvp

Like a freebie interrupt

[onyx valve]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-thats-racist-dats-racist-gif-5036293

[onyx valve]

SMH

[hazy isle]

yea same bruv

[sharp meteor]

rank 3 enchant bug got fixed

enchants all go up x2 in value

reee

[spark oyster]

Can you escape Abom limb similar to spear? I’m thinking it’s abom limb that keeps attaching me to the damn dk.

[copper hare]

abo limb only pulls you in the first time

the nerfed that first week or so

[spark oyster]

Ahh. Thanks.

[copper hare]

but they have double charge of grip now xd

[torpid roost]

what was the bug

[grand scaffold]

tried it out

in actual pvp

meh

wouldnt recommend it

the dmg isnt that crazy tbh

on a training dummy its much better

😂

[sharp meteor]

u just enchanted a velum with full bags as i recall

and it was always r3

[ebon sierra]

yo, so I catalysed two pieces of conquest gear to get the tier bonuses (just 2pc). do we have to accept that some of these pieces have mastery on them? (arms pvp angle, here)

[mild thunder]

One piece has mastery

Not even remotely a big deal

[ebon sierra]

lol kk thanks

[fresh kite]

fury or arms for arena?

[sharp meteor]

Arms is very solid.

Fury seems ehh but might be okay-good.

[mild thunder]

arms

fury 🤓

that's all you need to know

[lean burrow]

prot

[sharp meteor]

Prot really does seem kind of suffering unless you queue into physical stuff.

If you in a lineup vs wizards with no ms aaaaa

[mild thunder]

normal prot
@steep inlet's prot

ret is looking pretty awesome on ptr ngl

less modifiers, more reasonable dmg profile, much better mobility, good defensives and pretty fun design across it all

feelslike the [pve] community shits on sv plenty

wod sv was pretty cool

enhance isnt even that bad

[rotund trellis]

back to 1722, the dream is still alive thanks to bleed build

[mild thunder]

not even

enh just isnt a popular spec, even when it is good

and community perception is unreasonably low

because it's considered pretty strong in pve

it's not that squishy, astral is a pretty solid 55%(?) wall, with some of the best off-healing of any hybrid right now

ntm they have somewhat decent passive mitigation/defensives like nature's guardian

not the tankiest, but they're definitely not the squishiest either

whoever told you this conned you, bud

would you believe an arms warrior that told you their spec was complex

enhance has ~7 rotational buttons in pvp

almost all your globals go into stormstrike
flame shock you only press now and again
ice strike is basically filler
lightning bolt is mostly dead in pvp
sunder is a 40sec cooldown
crash lightning is also filler

it's not exactly complex, or even really bloated

i could also technically say arms has 7-9 rotational buttons - op, ms, exe, rend, slam, cs, sks, ww, ip

but that's a very reductive approach

[ebon pivot]

just make IP baseline for War and give us another defensive option!

cause it was decent. And blizz hates War

true

[spice hornet]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Catboynahj

[sharp meteor]

🐱

[fickle forge]

You can outplay with it 😎👍

[lean burrow]

who is this gigachad

[mild thunder]

i hate thug cleave

[spice hornet]

I heard it’s @elfin surge alt feral

[mild thunder]

nah, too manly for mud

[earnest wharf]

dueling a sin rogue, they're supposed to win most of the time?

[green wyvern]

yes

rogue should always win a duel

[sharp meteor]

every time

[mild thunder]

yea i mean

how do they lose

they kidney > deathmark

you trinket

they disarm

you lose

they eva so you cant disarm back and trinket fear

[lean burrow]

fear can be dodged?

[mild thunder]

nah nah, but disarm can

spear can be dodged

[fickle forge]

Trinket into SB ofc

Then fear their trinket

[mild thunder]

a good rogue probs doesnt let you get it in time tho tbf

but it's a bit 50/50

[fickle forge]

I mean he has GCD, you don't

[mild thunder]

well yea, that's the 50/50 right? whether he's on gcd or not. a decent rogue is probably pausing for a half second or so to see if you trinket the kidney

i come from oce, where 50/50s never go our way

[fickle forge]

I mean he can't do both

[mild thunder]

anyone here know if bm has much passive aoe? i swear it doesnt outside of stomp

[fickle forge]

Either he Kidney -> Mark and is on GCD, or he Mark and you can respond the Kidney

[mild thunder]

@wheat jay will know

[wheat jay]

No fucking clue

I played bm for like 30min and swapped back

[mild thunder]

[fickle forge]

Artji has forgotten what WoW is, he only knows his 12 hr shift slave job

[wheat jay]

I know lost ark too

[fickle forge]

Go find a real ark

Stop getting lost in that shit

[mild thunder]

lost ark pvp actually looks good

gw2 pvp is super fun

[wheat jay]

I know

Played it a lot

[topaz tulip]

I've noticed the numbers on check-pvp are a little inaccurate. Does it only show the score for the points you have once you cross a rank or is it based off of a specific reset time?

[mild thunder]

it's based on whatever your armory shows

[topaz tulip]

Current rating is right, season high tends to not be

Yup. And all pvp achievs

The thing that makes it confusing is if it was just taking the info straight from wow database, how could any of the numbers be inaccurate?

[quick carbon]

I qued into rogue sp today boys

but I had a destro lock on my team

warlocks can outwizard sp

Feelsgood

I saw

3 chaos bolts fly through the air

Almost as if I had hades himself on my team

sending them to the underworld

[topaz tulip]

How does chaos bolt work actually? Find myself sitting on them way too long out of fear of it now

[quick carbon]

chaos bolt is the culmination of a thousand years of pain and suffering

Right to ur dome

[topaz tulip]

Yes I noticed that lol

Is it not most dam?

:shock:

o

[quick carbon]

ya destro warrior stocks going up

[compact oak]

is destro warrior a viable 3v3 comp?

[quick carbon]

yes

it’s one of ur best comps

[compact oak]

what's their win condition? what are the synergies?

[quick carbon]

you sit battle and you do retarded damage

While your lock does warlock things

you just win with damage

While you stay alive

destro helps u live against other wizards too

cuz destro lock demands attention from every comp or they risk just dying

Destro damage is an affront to god

[compact oak]

man reading the Warrior PvP Discord is like reading a poem being written live by a cacophony of warriors

[quick carbon]

99% or comps u fight will focus ur lock

u sit battle

u hit whoever u want

Whenever u want

qued into turbo tonight

My lock was in trouble

The prevoker ran in for the game winning sleep

I charge stormbolt molested him

It was beautiful

I love casters

When I play shaman

it’s just so beautiful

[compact oak]

Why exactly? I thin I can agree but I want to hear your perspective too 🤔
For me double caster vs double caster is the most boring game possible because nobody leaves the pillar, ever. double caster vs double melee is at least about playing safe by hitting the closest target or pushing in on one if possible for your healer. And if you're a melee, training a caster means they do less damage and they don't want to be around a pillar.

[compact oak]

Do you play both Enh and Warrior?

[quick carbon]

I play ele on shaman

That’s cap

Rogue is always the best class

rogues been consistently top 2 melee for what the last 15 years

lock has been more up and down than rogue

Or even mage

[topaz tulip]

Is it not by spec? Like one year affliction is dumping on everyone, next year it's demo

[quick carbon]

Rogues been consistently meta defining since arena began, lock has been mostly up but has had down seasons

[quick carbon]

Rogues always top tier lock isn’t always top tier

this is the pvp channel so

idk why we’d be talking ab anything but pvp

so you concede that it’s the pvp channel

[muted surge]

@quick carbon stop being a lil bitch

[quick carbon]

Prove that it’s the general chat

[quick carbon]

how ab u get some bitches

[mild thunder]

lukey is a chad

he hates fury mains

[quick carbon]

gala bro he can’t even prove that this is the general chat

0 debate skills

I actually do

idk how that’s an insult tho

like me

I know

[scarlet barn]

Until Somebody pings Valkyr

Then you are screwed

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mute-discord-mute-shut-up-no-one-cares-muted-gif-18758159

more like bozozuki

[mild thunder]

reflecting schism increases my dmg, right?

[compact oak]

IDK if 2+2=8 but I definitely know that 2+2=>4 because 1+1=>2 because if you put two people in one team then you get more than the sum of their capabilities

[scarlet barn]

Idc. DOnt even know the bloke

As long as it is civil here for most part, it will be pretty free

IT has been purged already once

They for sure can d oit agian

[compact oak]

ho... why?!

I'm more for equality

anyway, can I ask an actual question to WoW players here?

[scarlet barn]

Just ask , dont mind these mankis

that just keep talking for sake of talking

[compact oak]

everything drowns in their noise xD

[lean burrow]

what in the fuck's name

<@&257983573498265600>

https://tenor.com/view/what-in-f-what-in-fucks-name-what-in-fucks-name-are-you-doing-the-fuck-the-heck-gif-19876744

[compact oak]

If any of you have played Enh as well, why do you prefer Warrior? 👀

Besides the obvious F-tier issues

not considering meta

[scarlet barn]

@drifting jacinth kek

[quick carbon]

enhance is just so comp limited man

Warrior can play with anything

enhance is fun dont get me wrong

But warrior is fun and has more options to play with

[mild thunder]

we dont enjoy "warrior"

we're arms enjoyers

enh is very fun tho, always was my 2nd alt until recently

i personally dont like stormstrike-focused builds tho, much preferred lava lash/hot hands SL build

[mild thunder]

is there some sort of new speedhack exploit, or are servers just amazingly shit now? had a lot of people stuttering/teleporting around the map lately

just had a 2s game into an rdru that got dropped to 2% and teleported halfway around the map before i could kill him

[compact oak]

I'm uploading my 1.1k Solo Shuffle match to YouTube on 5g. Must be wrecking the whole Internet, sorry. 🥲

[mild thunder]

teleported outside of my spear mind you

[noble moat]

Hey guys I am new to warrior and pvp, I just hit 2700 rating in solo shuffle, is that good?

[sage raptor]

Yeah

[mild thunder]

no

[sage raptor]

Yes

[mild thunder]

that's like 1200 real rating

[sage raptor]

No 2100 is 1200

[compact oak]

what's 1.1k in SS?

I thought 1.1k was rank 1

[sage raptor]

When it stops giving you free cr lol

[compact oak]

0.1% of the smallest rating

[mild thunder]

2.1 means you participated in shuffle

[compact oak]

inflation in SS is only like 200, not 500 xD right?

[sage raptor]

Something like that

[mild thunder]

inflation in ss is wayyyyy more than 200

top players are already 3400

[sage raptor]

He means the artificial inflation

[mild thunder]

well the demoncrats are in power so inflation is overboard (sarcasm)

all this deficit spending fr fr

[sage raptor]

On God bruh 🙏

[wheat jay]

Like 1000?

[undone pumice]

[mild thunder]

only if we get melee precog - if they disarm us during major CDs we get 15% haste and become cc immune 🤡

[elfin surge]

sure but then my attacks should be baseline 40 yrd range

[mild thunder]

reroll ret

they're basically 40yard melee next patch

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

"oh, you thought you could kite wings? 40 yard templars verdict, bitch!"

[compact oak]

The melee precog should be 40 yd range attacks when rooted without a movement speed boost

and ignore LoS like Hunters

[elfin surge]

maybe interrupts are fine and casters are just bad

[compact oak]

Rets can throw hammers like a non-caster caster, I want a Warrior spec that wields two one-handed axes and throws them like an Amani Berserker

[mild thunder]

nah melee op fr fr

[mild thunder]

ngl a 4th "warden/gladiator" spec that used a spear and shield and had bonus range + some ranged attacks would be kinda cool

and it could be the first proper dps that uses a shield

[high star]

yo no shaming but

how dis possible

i thought u barely lost CR under 1k

[mild thunder]

they have to be inting

100%

[topaz tulip]

Feel like that should be a hunter thing but sure

[topaz tulip]

Nah you lose the same amount you do higher up. It's just harder because the only people that low are normally just starting

does conquest go away at the end of a season?

[noble moat]

Bro what

[compact oak]

I struggled to climb from sub-1k to 1k exactly like I did from 1k to 1.6k in SL

in 2v2

definitely can lose rating now below 1k

BTW how powerful is Ignore Pain? I'm not sure how long the absorb lasts but in theory if it's not being bursted through before you reapply it then it's a constant 50% wall, isn't it?

[muted surge]

It’s like a 30-40k absorb

That lasts for 12? Secs

So it’s gone within 1-2 hits

And ye, if it’s not killed it’s a 50% wall vs dots

[sage raptor]

I sent you this with confidence

[scarlet barn]

Wild take

Imagine puny mage actually taking weapon from Sweaty pumped warrior

[elfin surge]

common forum user take

[crisp jewel]

idk how yall play arms

i must suck cause it just feels clunky and awkward

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gif-26337636

[crisp jewel]

fury is so smooth and i feel like i can put out a ton of pressure and cause more panic than with arms

[elfin surge]

fury is probably the worst melee rn

lmao

[crisp jewel]

yea, id say your right, but i still play way better with it

i mean ive mained it for last 3 xpacs and hardly touched arms so thats probably got something to do with it

just gonna keep trying,

[elfin surge]

arms playstyle is different

very cd based

fury is all about high uptime

if you want to pvp as warrior its always better to main arms. It's pretty much always been the go to spec for pvp @crisp jewel

[sturdy carbon]

Throw spear, smash'em and spin, ez winz

[crisp jewel]

yea i know arms is far superior

[mild thunder]

Smooth-brained

How do you play fury for 3 expansions?

I guess you’ve perfected that “bt>bt>bt>ramp” by now, huh

[crisp jewel]

cause its fun?

and i do everything, not just pvp, my 2 main toons are dk and war

every season i atleast get aotc, ksm and rival, but try for KSH duelist, never got CE

[sage raptor]

So much more complex than OP -OP-MS

[crisp jewel]

Yes I am a smooth brain. That's why we play warrior lol. And If your pressing bt your losing

I like OS, RA build with roar , sometimes go spear depends on match

[green anchor]

I played Fury since DF launch and I'm already bored of it

Arms is king now in both PvP and PvE

[crisp jewel]

I'd agree in PvP, but PvE depends on the content/fight. Some raid encounters arms is a bit better, and in some of the dungeons.

Arms definitely pumps in m+ now

[noble moat]

fury is full ooga booga

[spark oyster]

Can you link your pvp fury build? I’m using the pretty standard one.

I love me some ooga booga

I assume you’re saying don’t press bt, press bb only. Yeah? I haven’t tried onslaught yet… I’m assuming os = onslaught?

[mild thunder]

onslaught/rb build is dogshit in pvp

[crisp jewel]

Not at puter but for PvE I generally go down right side of tree, onslaught and ravager w hurricane, roar and the upgrade below, and I use anger management.
For pvp it's the same except I use rekleas abandon and drop ravager for odyns fury, and I grab the avatar/odyns fury talent

[spark oyster]

Gotcha. Thought you were saying you used os in pvp.

[crisp jewel]

Yeah I do

W slaughtering strikes its strong

Also makes so you don't have to take enduring rage so it frees up a pvp talent

Rampage dump right into an onslaught and rampage again is huge damage. Especially in recklessness since it's probably gonna crit

[mild thunder]

it'll crit and do 40K!!!!

[crisp jewel]

It's not the single numbers your focused on, it's how fast you can pump them out. With a good amount of haste and being perma enraged from OS talent, your rampaging every other attack most times

Another cool thing bout fury is procs go off constantly, frozen dev isn't as strong as it was, but it still procs consistently, my favorite is double haste wep enchant. Sit at 50% haste most of the match it's pretty fun

I can't get sophic to proc nearly as much as others though. I guess the rate is lower since it's so much main stat? Idk

[muted surge]

I can never tell if it’s a copy pasta or not

[mild thunder]

unfortunately i think this is legit

[vivid pumice]

how are people liking the sks build for arms? I'm winning with it but sks itself seems pretty low damage

[mild thunder]

what're you basing that on?

[vivid pumice]

just looking at damage logs after SS round s

[mild thunder]

sks damage doesnt all show as one hit

[vivid pumice]

how so?

[mild thunder]

what does sks do?

[vivid pumice]

looking at the tool tip it deals physical damage and causes bleeds to expire instantly

[mild thunder]

so why might the damage not come through as one big hit?

[vivid pumice]

ah because it's causing the bleeds to do all their damage at once

[mild thunder]

yep

[vivid pumice]

i've said before in this discord that i am not a maths guy

[mild thunder]

if it's a short game, you can look at overall bleed dmg

otherwise, just playtest it and see if it feels good

[vivid pumice]

i gotta get better about putting rend up on people

[mild thunder]

multi-rending

[vivid pumice]

rend spreads during sweeping strikes right

[mild thunder]

yep

[compact oak]

Can't be worse than Enh, though?

[elfin surge]

enh isnt bad anyone who thinks it is, is trolling.

fury is unplayable. It has 0 comps

[mild thunder]

rare MUD w

enh is 100% underrated

[compact oak]

You could say that for most classes 😅 I was surprised Arms rotation is only MS and Overpower

[mystic barn]

based

[mild thunder]

you could say that... you'd be wrong, but you could say that.

fury's rotation is uniquely linear. it relies on very few procs, and has an infinitely repeatable optimised rotation of bt>bt>bt>rampage
arms isn't exactly complex, but it's far more reactive and actually requires you to be awake to play it. it also has the option of adding additional complexity while remaining viable (ignore pain, sks, rend, storm of swords etc.)

the people that cry about "arms is 2 buttons like fury!!!" are the same people that refuse to take rend because it's "too many buttons"

prove me wrong

[crisp jewel]

I dunno why you are saying bt-bt-bt ramp, unless your referring to the CSHB build which is dog doodoo.

[mild thunder]

the annihilator build is the only remotely viable build for fury pvp, bud

been that way all of DF

[crisp jewel]

Nope

[mild thunder]

[compact oak]

I'll never prove you wrong. I play Enh piano rotation and keybind every possible DoT, CC and support ability on party123 and arena123 modifiers. And I keybind Resto on top of that just so I don't miss any possible binds ever. I like pain 🫠

[crisp jewel]

The build I was referring to does alot more damage for me compared to everything else I've tried. Macro avatar and roar together, odyns and reck, so each pop a separate odyns, 4p is a must cause your gonna be getting a shit ton of sudden death procs..besides ramp, execute is your most pressed ability. Take OS for instant slaughtering strikes, enrage and enrage extension. RA for crushing blow, which is your filler.

[vivid pumice]

just had a rogue kidney shot me while disarmed?

[crisp jewel]

Can they do that?

Maybe he trinkd it?

[vivid pumice]

i didn't think they could but i just lost a SS round because he kidney shot me before i could land impending victory

[mild thunder]

avatar/roar and reck/OF macros?

[crisp jewel]

Yessir

You don't have to like it but I'm just sharing my honest experience w the most viable fury build I've personally found. Numbers don't lie, Its always top dps every match. It's just a high sustain build. Not saying it's better than arms, just a fun, different build that I've had the most success with .

[mild thunder]

it's not that i dont like it, it's that it's objectively bad. it's a subpar build for the worst melee in pvp

[muted surge]

But if he’s higher rates than you it has to work

And if it works it’s better :<

But I don’t get why everyone macros their shit together

Get some fingers and play optimally

[mild thunder]

the only acceptable macro is macroing IP to everything

[torpid bolt]

People make macro to do burst, Is better 100k in 1 second, than 100k in 10 seconds spread

[muted surge]

What

[mild thunder]

it takes you 10 seconds to press avatar + TRoar?

[muted surge]

APM of 12

[torpid bolt]

No i think you was talking about , not cast all your high dps cds at the same time

[muted surge]

I’m saying that macros are shit

[mild thunder]

as arms, you shouldnt macro any of your burst together

[torpid bolt]

So use avatar , wait 20 seconds , avatar ends , use reckleness

[mild thunder]

as fury, it's fine to macro reck/avatar IN THAT ORDER

[torpid bolt]

More dps over time

[muted surge]

But that’s not the point

[mild thunder]

[mild thunder]

is this a troll

[torpid bolt]

I was answering about the comment " why everyone macros their shit together"

[muted surge]

But

But

But

[torpid bolt]

Because casting everything in short Time

Is called burst

[muted surge]

Idk about you

[mild thunder]

idk what to say

[muted surge]

But I can press 2 buttons at once

And don’t scuff my cds overall

[spark oyster]

I’m fury all the way too. Don’t care if it’s a tier below arms. It’s way more fun. I am not sure how to incorporate RB/OS into a rotation yet so I don’t use it. I feel one of fury’s strengths is the hp restore of empowered bloodthirst (bloodbath) so rampage/BB seems to take prio over hitting RB/OS. But perhaps I’m overthinking it.

[crisp jewel]

Because certain abilities line up , and you want to stack damage modifiers...every rpg ever

[muted surge]

What’s the cd of avatar and what’s of roar

[mild thunder]

but you ARENT stacking modifiers LMAO

you distinctly arent stacking your same-cd mods

bro wtf

[crisp jewel]

I'm not, but that's why people do

Because odyns fury

[spark oyster]

1:30 untalented. So most people don’t take the talent so it lines up with avatar/reck.

[muted surge]

Which one is 1:30

Both?

[spark oyster]

All of the above baseline.

[mild thunder]

roar isnt even a dmg modifier

[elfin surge]

arena forums

[mild thunder]

bro wtf am i reading

[mild thunder]

this channel has become worse than forums, my friend

[crisp jewel]

Avatar casts odyns fury and also lines up perfect with roar, odyns cast avatar so I separate them. This way I can choose to blow my load all at once, or do more sustain throughout

[crisp jewel]

I was just saying why people macro shit together, nothing to do w my build

[muted surge]

Does avatar cast rek?

[mild thunder]

not as fury

[crisp jewel]

If you talent into it

[muted surge]

Don’t you miss the extra crit for roar then

If you only use avatar before roar

[crisp jewel]

Odyns fury and reck first, then avatar/roar next

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/old-no-brain-brains-out-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7878833

[muted surge]

Why not put all in a cast sequence

[crisp jewel]

Usually do them near each other since the moment I reck I get disarmed /cc, so don't wanna sit cc and watch all my cds tick away

I find it better to have them separate, in case you don't want to use them at same time

[muted surge]

Ohhh

[mild thunder]

cuck spec cant bladestorm a disarm

[crisp jewel]

Also avatar is good for roots, but I generally play blood rage

[mild thunder]

"avatar is good for roots, so i macro it to TRoar"

[muted surge]

So you roar if you want to get out of roots

And no one in range?

[mild thunder]

gigabrain

[crisp jewel]

Cast sequence will get you fucked up if you aren't paying attention. Ive got plenty of keybinds and they all easy to hit.

[muted surge]

?????

[crisp jewel]

No lol

Roar has a large range

Sometimes healer or caster will stand just outside of melee while ur rooted. Avatar/roar will break root and dot em up

[mild thunder]

bro

[crisp jewel]

But usually I pop blood rage like I said cause I run that alot

[mild thunder]

this is some good memeing tho fr fr

[muted surge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-whatever-gif-23592041

[crisp jewel]

Just cause your not good at it, or havnt tried it, or it isn't the copy/paste meta you put it down and call me an idiot. Thanks, your wonderful people.

[mild thunder]

you're*

he mistyped, debate over

[hollow ore]

zugzug

[crisp jewel]

Wow your that type of guy...lol "akhshually"

[muted surge]

But how much do you bench

[crisp jewel]

335

[hollow ore]

lbs?

[muted surge]

What

[crisp jewel]

Was my max

[hollow ore]

how much is that in non retard unit im lost

[muted surge]

If it’s kg it’s a lot

[crisp jewel]

335lbs? How is that confusing?

[muted surge]

Bcs

[crisp jewel]

No it's not 600+ lbs lol

[muted surge]

No one but America uses that

Lao

[hollow ore]

still pretty good

hats off

[muted surge]

It could have been kg, stone, tons

[crisp jewel]

Oh your all euros...makes sense now . Drew up mfs

[mild thunder]

ah yea

[muted surge]

Drew?

[crisp jewel]

Later

[mild thunder]

only countries outside the US are european

fucking idiot americans

[hollow ore]

only europe use kgs as a metric

[dapper cypress]

any idea how to kill affli resto druid
playing currently with disc priest as arms

[hollow ore]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

[torpid bolt]

What if , there are some meta defining build made from a random guy , while everyone mocking AND having fun about that build because him is not a streamer or proplayer.

[mild thunder]

that's... not true, bud

[vivid pumice]

i think i hit ELO hell

[hollow ore]

i know that was the thing

[mild thunder]

ok you're good

[hollow ore]

🫡

[torpid bolt]

And next year he become pro and win Worlds championship

[mild thunder]

there's enough retardation in here, it's getting hard to tell

[hollow ore]

the zugzug is going maniac true true

[mild thunder]

no one here really gives a fuck what streamers say either

[muted surge]

Only what dekel says matters

[hollow ore]

odds are about the same as those guys whining on forums + everyone in this chan kind of play the game

only what Ndogo says matter

🐒

biggest bench gets to decide

[vivid pumice]

I'm at 1500 and i lose like 50 rating if i don't go 5/6

[torpid bolt]

I'm telling that , because that happen in other videogame, and people was 🤡

[vivid pumice]

is that normal?

[mild thunder]

mud is the only based streamer

[hollow ore]

it isn't league

[muted surge]

Yes bcs your mmr is shit

[mild thunder]

and he has his 🤡 moments

[muted surge]

Gotta have a win streak

[hollow ore]

in which place some weirdo play eve support and get master through 50-50 coinflips every game

we throw shit at 3s all day long but in the end it's the most skill-based bracket/ladder i've ever played out of any game tbh

[torpid bolt]

I was talking about dota2, very close

[hollow ore]

( oh well except when AWC is 5 rmps and 8 rogues out of 8 teams 🤡 )

[mild thunder]

also to clarify - i've played the build that guy was talking about. it's shit. the macros and advice he was giving based on it, was beyond shit, and demonstrated a genuinely impressive lack of understanding of the spec he's mained for 3 years

[hollow ore]

nuff said

[torpid bolt]

Did you played it last patch, after nerfs buffs?

[mild thunder]

lady patch? where can i find her?

[hollow ore]

i'll patch that lady

🤡

[torpid bolt]

Phone is trolling me

[hollow ore]

we have the combined iq of a brick wall

so no worries

[mild thunder]

yes, i played the rb/onslaught build this patch

[hollow ore]

to each their own

[mild thunder]

even mentioned it in pins

i was one of the only people in this disc that tried to make it work, but the damage is incredibly underwhelming and incredibly easy to shut down

[torpid bolt]

Ofc , that's good point

[hollow ore]

did you pin the excel explaining very simply why people get shafted by the rating system despite going 5-1 in SS?

[torpid bolt]

I was just making sure , because i tough OS was utter shit , but now Is meta in PVE

[oblique apex]

any one using spear + avatar macro?doesnt work always

[hollow ore]

using spear and avatar on same macro is a mistake imo

[mild thunder]

dude stop

[hollow ore]

oh fuck my bad

[mild thunder]

that's not an opinion, that's a fact

[hollow ore]

🤡

[mild thunder]

next people are gonna be asking if they should macro all their defensives together

[lyric violet]

soooo

beast master

the fuck i do in solo shuffle

seems like they always do really well

[hollow ore]

shouldn't I? big defense tho 🦍

[muted surge]

I panic press all my defs anyway, might as well macro them

[hollow ore]

genuinely no idea, same scenario as shadowplay imo

your best bet is howl and kite the shit when you can

dunno if los affects the kill command

[vivid pumice]

is there a macro that swaps wreck/shat throw depending on which one i have talented?

[muted surge]

:known

[muted surge]

My lancer will destructeur you

[hollow ore]

I will destructeur yo bussy

[mild thunder]

lmao eurocucks

drew up mf

[compact oak]

🤣

[sage raptor]

the french make everything sound delicious

[mild thunder]

je suis retarde

[rotund trellis]

holy moly fury is fun and strong

(at 1110 rank :D)

[hollow ore]

i'll never understand what's so fun about rampage BB BB rampage

binary as fuck

[mild thunder]

bro not this shit again

why are all these fury mains coming out of the woodworks

[rotund trellis]

well then feast your eyes on my keybind!

went 5-1 with that

[steep inlet]

5-1 at what cr ?

:)

[rotund trellis]

details, details...

what is cr anyway

😄

[mild thunder]

coom retention

[rotund trellis]

I got this build from balboa, and I'm like "why button number 1 doesn't do anything?"

[hollow ore]

still more keys than Legion DH

[rotund trellis]

HAH so true

[mild thunder]

still less keys than modern dh

[rotund trellis]

the gameplay is a flat line. bursts? what are those?

[hollow ore]

For the blind, Arms is the light.
For the hungry, Arms is the bread.
For the thirsty, Arms is the fountain.
For the sick, Arms is the cure.
For the prisoner, Arms is freedom.
For the liar, Arms is the truth.
For the traveler, Arms is the way.

[mild thunder]

For the blind, Arms is the light.
For the hungry, Arms is the bread.
For the thirsty, Arms is the fountain.
For the sick, Arms is the cure.
For the prisoner, Arms is freedom.
For the liar, Arms is the truth.
For the traveler, Arms is the way.

[compact oak]

I've already said the Warrior discord looks like a continuous poem

[mild thunder]

Rating shaming needs to stop.

People are reaching their new personal records in Shuffle and you get people trying to invalidate their accomplishment and make it seem like they didn’t deserve it.

I also see people rating shaming people with 1800 or lower on 2s/3s when both brackets are insanely deflated and hard to find groups with in LFG.

Idk how this culture started, but people need to relax and let others enjoy their rating regardless of the game mode.

Hello,
I recently dropped my warrior after hitting 1800 by pressing 2 buttons and pve the healer the whole game. I've started playing sin rogue and Dh in 2s, yesterday I was playing with a healer that was hardstuck 1500 but I mashed bladedance and the hunt on my DH and I got duelist in about 4 hours. I also find it fun when I got glad in 4 days on my sin rogue by pressing deathmark, the game is very hard.
here you go

/castsequence reset=20 Conqueror's Banner, Recklessness, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage

i think that's my favourite

[steep inlet]

nah i didnt want to rating shame him. But if he say like 5-1 is good and it's at like 1200 cr

its not a proof its working at all haha

[undone pumice]

ok but that ones not wrong fr fr

[mild thunder]

the problem with current soloQ is that it's just gonna permanently fuck everyones' perception of rating

[rotund trellis]

dude you're so dende, it was a joke lmao

[undone pumice]

bruh

[mild thunder]

lfg is gonna be full of people with their "2400 xp soloQ" tags and achieves

[undone pumice]

i think ppl will quivkly realize that its not a 1 to 1 conversion once they start playing 3s

[onyx valve]

The PvP sub is the absolute worst about this

[mild thunder]

"why am i hardstuck 1600, im 2800xp soloQ on dh"

it also just makes people think they're insanely better than they are, which means they're less willing to play with people that are actually they're skill level and learn

because they think they should be playing with r1s

man i got my 2500 or w/e it was in shuffle when it was actually kinda meaningful (and pre-buffs ), and even i felt a bit cocky going into 3s... only to get smacked down

it's just not a comparable gamemode

[lyric violet]

I was super excited i got 2200 in solo only to have everyone shit on me Lmao

like yes i get that it isnt 3s but ive been 2100 in 3s before also so idk?

[undone pumice]

its a dh what do you expect

but like solo and 3s are different modes with different skillsets for success

ofc it has the standard pvp skills of knowing wtf anyone does

shuffle u need to be a master of osychology of 40 year old neckbeards and 30 year old bodybuilders, 3s u need communication

[mild thunder]

Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!

[sage raptor]

I wonder if tiktokers know how retarded they look

[mystic barn]

use qertsfgxcv for binds

[elfin surge]

hey thats mine

[mystic barn]

way more comfy than that shit

[compact oak]

My matches between 700 and 900 rating in 2v2 were a lot more fun than matches around 1600 in SL 2v2. Currently creeping up from 1100 in 2v2 at a snail's pace with a Destro+Enh comp.
It seems in Solo Shuffle I'm not going to break 1100 as Enh until I absolutely dominate and outplay nearly every spec, because topping the DPS metre doesn't get me a kill and Hex+Cap is not easy or frequent to pull off and if I don't end the match early then I will die before I get the second Astral Shift off unless I manage to kite double melee like I would be a caster.

I'm practically immune to rating shaming because I'm at the rock bottom and all I want is to learn and don't care about anything else. As long as I can find a way to improve, my rating doesn't matter.

Rating shaming sounds like a voluntary public display of the shamer's internal insecurity or frustration with themselves. If you're jealous of your neighbour's lawn (Assa Rogue toolset), either do the same yourself or face the challenge like you were playing a competitive game mode.

I don't think the players who have time and brain space reserved for riling up about other people and external factors are the same people who will sit down and invent new ways to go against the odds and potentially carve a new winning approach while playing the class they are passionate about as a choice to stand with.

[compact oak]

Where are these messages from?

[spring python]

Is haste really better over mastery for arms? Isn't mastery like a mini permanent CS or am I reading it wrong.

[crisp jewel]

Your not meta multi glad r1 5000cr 20,500xp gigasigmaalphachad?

[onyx valve]

Reminds me of WC3 RT and AT, especially after the FFA players introduced proxy style play in 4v4

Organized team play vs hit and run mob that’s kindly loosely fighting for the same reason

[fleet pecan]

пвп

пизда иолодим

[undone pumice]

i dont speak dog

[rotund trellis]

it was a joke, 1 is keybind to a passive ability

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[fickle forge]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[scarlet barn]

I will slap you Karg

[full quiver]

Karg sux

[stark agate]

Link glad achieve or no invite

[hazy isle]

2700 solo xp lf multiglads
Lf pumpers, be good

[jaunty violet]

how important is tier?

[spice hornet]

never gets old

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Catboynahj

[crisp jewel]

Pretty strong for both fury and arms. Arms being a bit stronger for the spec.

That sweet sweet crit

[jaunty violet]

nice, can you convert the conquest pieces into tier?

[spring python]

Would 2p be better over conquest weapon?

Arms*

Thought about getting 421 weapon and get 2p

[crisp jewel]

Yessir

[crisp jewel]

What wep u got now?

[spring python]

Just the honor 411

[crisp jewel]

I'm not sure on that one, Id say the weapon though.

That's big increase

[jaunty violet]

huge thanks

i'd go weapon also

[mild thunder]

No

[mild thunder]

For arms? It’s good, but not make or break
For fury? Pretty dogshit lol

[hazy isle]

“Umm acktchually solo shuffle is way better than 3v3, i was just sick and tired of lfg and its toxicity, and now I can finally get rival without getting harassed by elitist bigots like you”

[rotund trellis]

You guys prob don't give a shit about it, but this is my first one in 18 years and up to last month I thought I would never be able to get one.

[mild thunder]

These be the mfs that call everyone toxic but leave a pug after one loss

[mild thunder]

Can’t tell if serious

[rotund trellis]

Serious, I've always ben bad at pvp and that seemed unreachable. I'm also in my 40s, so pretty slow

[mild thunder]

Too many copypastas going around, I’m losing my mind
But congratulations, good job!

[mystic prairie]

guys help me out, just finished the main campaign, what would be the first things to do for someone who's mostly interested in PvP? like weeklies and stuff. couldn't find PvP-specific guide, not sure if I even need to continue doing campaign chapters

[rotund trellis]

thanks mate!

[lean burrow]

"Oh you are less than 2000? Come back when you reach my level, kiddo"

[rotund trellis]

What mount do you think I should buy with the saddle? What's your favorite? I got none of them except for the current one

(ally)

[rancid moon]

Anyone have a macro that can set you focus target to healer

[lean burrow]

ctrl+click on mount in trader window for preview

[mortal elm]

night elf white panter

omg typos

from bfa

is just another class of pvp mounts

imo

any way to get 29 primal chaos easily?

pvp box gives 4 i tink but i need a bit more source than that

[mild thunder]

The vicious steed is a must-have

[rotund trellis]

that is very cool yeah

[rotund trellis]

YES, that was on my radar already

[mild thunder]

it's the only one i like tbh

[crisp jewel]

The white panther/warhorse is pretty badass. I like the croc and speeeyder

[torpid roost]

Needs to be a lightning horse

[crisp jewel]

I would recommend doing random battlegrounds to gain honor and experience with your spec in pvp. Then solo shuffle is a great way to learn what other specs can do and when to run, los, use defensives etc. The random arena quick matches are also helpful but your probably in for a lot of grinding and frustration before you get the hang of it. Don't give up though, it's a lot of fun. Once you get some gear and experience then you could do some rated arena. The weeklies are helpful for early conquest and honor. Wow had some pretty good pvp compared to a lot of games I've played. Not the best but still pretty solid. One thing you will notice however is constantly running into the same specs. It's very meta and most people will just copy/paste the most popular build so you will see the same thing over and over.

[torpid roost]

I'm still very bad at knowing when to run

After being >2200 repeatedly

I have the "I'm dying, pop defensive and kill him harder" mindset still

[crisp jewel]

Lol yea especially when they in execute range.

Leap/intervene is so nice tho...can gtfo quick

[thick reef]

you never run back

you always zug zug

[torpid roost]

Sometimes it works out

[sharp meteor]

i mean that has been encouraged heavily for a while

[torpid roost]

Like bolting the dps instead of the healer because I'm dying

[sharp meteor]

sometimes u just can't trade tho even with wall

[torpid roost]

Yeah like, Demo locks

[sharp meteor]

if i sit in sp/assa/disc with rdruid i die through wall 100%

if i sit in ele/demo zoo i die through everything

[torpid roost]

Go toe to toe with them you die

[thick reef]

with.. demo locks?

[torpid roost]

Sp and ass to a lesser degree

Demo locks are fucking terrifying now

You will crumple

[sharp meteor]

ya demo zoo plus something like an ele

especially if their healer has purges

can't trade into that

[thick reef]

warriors are known to be very strong against locks

[sharp meteor]

ok

[torpid roost]

Every other lock spec, I do great against

Demo, no

[sharp meteor]

idk demo has felt fine to me destro is miserable

with like frost or ele

[thick reef]

from my experience the hardest spec to play into is destro not demo

[torpid roost]

Destro in 2s is counterable

[thick reef]

'hardest' as in lock specs

[torpid roost]

3s less so because they have assist pressure

[mild thunder]

using a defensive means to acknowledge that death is a possibility
admitting death is a possibility is not a warrior mindset

this is not recommended gameplay

[thick reef]

the moment you run back as a warrior the game is lost 80% of the times

[sharp meteor]

that depends

sometimes u can just walk away

[torpid roost]

Armor is a state of mind in which you admit there is a possibility of getting hit, this is not recommended gameplay

[sharp meteor]

but yeah lately if u move backwards

u fall behind

so better to just pressure into them

[thick reef]

just run in and press a good damg rotation while having 100% uptime on hamstring can't lose

[mild thunder]

kill them before they kill you

[thick reef]

best mindset

[sharp meteor]

and yeah destro kind of weird

doing 50k dps without casts

[torpid roost]

Destro I just kick their setup shit

[thick reef]

yeah idno kinda weird reading you struggle with demo when all their damg is counterable

destro is rough cos of instant casts and 3 schools of magic

[sharp meteor]

oh nah in general demo is fine

[torpid roost]

Haven't been high rated this season though so I'm sure it gets uglier

[sharp meteor]

it was just particular matchup that felt bad