That build has warbreaker (if I found the right one)
#pvp
remote tapir
mild thunder
it does not
remote tapir
Ah got the names confused, you are correct
And it's not meant as just an AoE build, it does tons of bleed single target too
copper hare
No assa nerfs for like 3 weeks now
no ele nerfs
what a great game
back to SL tuning pace
mystic barn
We love mind numbing reducing haste instead of just casting speed !!
mild thunder
yea i legit dont understand how assa is getting away with this shit
meanwhile we get insta-nerfed the week we become good
mystic barn
Hello
You also got 4000 buffs
and then damage profile change
and warriors extremely good rn I will not let arms copers tell me I’m wrong
good job blizz actually deleting the 3s bracket tho
mild thunder
not saying arms is bad
just saying it's weird how quick the nerfs for us came through for us when assa is mostly untouched all season
sharp meteor
buff woryor no borst
sharp meteor
just saying it's weird how quick the nerfs for us came through for us when assa ...
also its cus gutter mmr rogues suck
mild thunder
TRU
also fav spec, blizz hates warriors, everyone at blizz sucks off RMP etc etc
typical warr complaints
rotund trellis
let's go
rotund trellis
if there's anything worst that SS, that is ARENA SKIRMISH
2x warriors vs 2 frost mages. yes thanks.
undone pumice
mild thunder
<:keks:936231610850897992>
how many profile pictures does this man have
undone pumice
all of them
hazy isle
\
indigo sleet
why is "Raging Blow + Spear of Bastion (not recommended, but very high damage) " Build not recommended?
indigo sleet
why is it not recommended higher damage would be better right lol
mild thunder
fury isn't worth playing for pure damage, if you're gonna do that, just play arms
the fury anni build is decent because of the self-sustain and healing it offers
mild thunder
rb build gets shut down super easily too
copper hare
they also gutted raging blow/crushing blow in pvp
mild thunder
every OF gets insta-disarmed
copper hare
and it still doesnt work with battle trance xd
indigo sleet
lol
mild thunder
can you push 2400 easily with fury tho?
in shuffle? yea you can push 2400 as fury
mild thunder
if you're a r1 player you can probably get 2400 as fury in 2s
outside of that, good luck, hope you enjoy versing assa/x every game
indigo sleet
you need 1800 for full set right?
mild thunder
yea 2s is fucked
indigo sleet
is it 1800 for xmog full set
mild thunder
1.8 is pretty easy in 2s still
elfin surge
4 warriors full geared 
elfin surge
424 on all 4
leaden lynx
🧐
mild thunder
4 warriors full geared <:xeos:945501697847992341>
4 warriors
4 shit mogs
mystic barn
indigo sleet
lol
copper hare
4 warriors full geared <:xeos:945501697847992341>
would love to see one of these warriors in a high rated stream instead of farming 1.7 people with viewers 
indigo sleet
what pvp talents should you use as fury
sharp meteor
would love to see one of these warriors in a high rated stream instead of farmin...
viewers wanna see their fellow shitters mulched up
mild thunder
when was the last time mud even streamed proper 3s?
mild thunder
blizz will fix 3s 
rotund trellis
blizz will fix 3s <:copium:839076283467431956>
sage raptor
when was the last time mud even streamed proper 3s? <:keks:936231610850897992>
does anyone even stream those anymore?
thick reef
what gems do we socket?
sharp meteor
mmmm probably not mastery
crit/vers, vers/crit are popular right now
but could also opt for haste
mystic barn
idk viewer 2s aren't super fun to watch imo
Viewer 2s = more views bc people wanna be next in line for the boost
mystic barn
Grats on being honest
sharp meteor
oh i imagine it's haste vers then
thick reef
ok thanks
sharp meteor
or vers haste
rotund trellis
1-15 lost as a starter of the week. I suck so much i should just play pve or fucking fortnite
mystic barn
fortnite and high keys harder
rotund trellis
Imma erase the toon and be happy instead lol
not worth the saltyness on a wed night lmao
hol up it's only tue fml
mild thunder
Viewer 2s = more views bc people wanna be next in line for the boost
Yea that’s true
mystic barn
If magic number is a goal that’s good, but if it makes you want to beat your wife over solo shuffle like that one guy — I do recommend taking a break
And probably be single
Forever
rotund trellis
what? who was this??
mystic barn
Some random fuckwad here
rotund trellis
jesus christ
stable siren
4 warriors full geared <:xeos:945501697847992341>
jesus nice!
mild thunder
Some random fuckwad here
Wasn’t that guy banned from this disc for that comment?
mystic barn
either that or left
autumn heath
Do you guys feel like you’re pretty successful against ele shamans?
mystic barn
Do you guys feel like you’re pretty successful against ele shamans?
no, because when you ignore them, they get all their damage out. And when you focus them, they get all their damage out anyway
Caster class btw
mystic barn
are you sure it wasn't a joke
Guy was unhinged ranting for an hour
lean burrow
pale minnow
Guy was unhinged ranting for an hour
Poke to that message i wanna see it
mystic barn
pruned
mild thunder
are you sure it wasn't a joke
even as a joke it's a lil unhinged
and that guy had said some other stupid af stuff that made me question whether it was a joke
pale minnow
Bruuuh... 
mild thunder
is this not the guy
mystic barn
no
it’s a meme from the original poster
WAIT
THATS HIM
oh my god it all makes sense now it had the most awkward irl profile pic
“Arms warrior is dogshit”
pale minnow
is this not the guy
U the champ here
mild thunder
THATS HIM
the timeline is right, and that guy isnt in the disc anymore
but i stg it was a different pfp and name
couldve just changed it tho
mystic barn
ye I verified from the other msgs
pale minnow
mild thunder
QCDetective
mystic barn
I skimmed the msgs and looked over what portal posted bc I didn’t realize it was portal
Who’s a moron
clicks now
@mild thunder
There it is
autumn heath
no, because when you ignore them, they get all their damage out. And when you fo...
Shit, I must be doing something wrong then lol. As an ele warriors have been one of the hardest classes to beat. Can’t seem to get away from them and they seem to have quite a bit of mitigation. Maybe it’s a gear difference idk
mystic barn
player issue
pale minnow
This guy mad about rating, when i dropped 400 cr willingly just to get faster ques
mild thunder
Shit, I must be doing something wrong then lol. As an ele warriors have been one...
mitigation? warrior?
mystic barn
it’s bullshit no matter if you train the ele or not they just nuke people without casting anything
pale minnow
Chasing elem is just waste of mobility cds
mystic barn
just simply kb the warrior in their charge and disconnect them from the game
pale minnow
U gonna get knocked all game into root
mystic barn
you just train whatever else is in the lobby since you can’t stop ele
pale minnow
just simply kb the warrior in their charge and disconnect them from the game
One game a mf knocked me into stairs and i got disconnected, that's the only win he got
mystic barn
banger
autumn heath
Lmao
sharp meteor
why does feral hit so hard ow ow ow
pale minnow
idk why people think it's so weak
Cuz they Delusional?
Link the ss with the feral guy 1.6 hardstuck for a decade and solo q made him wonders elite first time in his life
FeRaL iS wEaK
indigo barn
Triple stacking against a feral is unhealable
mild thunder
Link the ss with the feral guy 1.6 hardstuck for a decade and solo q made him wo...
tbf that's just solo shuffle inflation
vital quarry
Hey lads, i know Fury isn’t topnotch right know. But i kinda like it, my question is If the 4-set is worth? It feels kinda meh.
sage raptor
get your money up, not your funny up $$
mild thunder
Hey lads, i know Fury isn’t topnotch right know. But i kinda like it, my questio...
not really
vital quarry
not really
Thanks man
cinder thorn
Omg I hate stealthers on my team in BGs that don't want to engage when it's just two of us by objective and there's 2 enemies
They watch me 2v1 then engage after I die
facepalm
mystic barn
Enemy wastes their ccs, trinkets, damage cooldowns, dcds on you
Rogue gets to clean up without worry
pale minnow
Enemy wastes their ccs, trinkets, damage cooldowns, dcds on you
speaking from experience huh?
mystic barn
Despised having to play them in sl for quick conquest and honor for gearing
rbg rating being a perfect 0 is pretty cathartic
mild thunder
gigachad behaviour
mystic barn
can’t even bring myself to level up alts and do comp stomp 🫠
sharp meteor
wait is comp stomp soon
pale minnow
i'm forced to play rbg cuz of my friends, and then they mention woah u are 2.7 solo that's crazy and then i say maan you can do it too chill " woah he ain't even flexing he based" the moment I'm holding my head, yep rbgers are boomers, confirmed
sharp meteor
actually what am i saying honor is free and conq is annoying
mystic barn
it’s sometime in March
pale minnow
like i can't explain them how useless is rbg rn... they think solo q is ultra hard...
sharp meteor
i'm forced to play rbg cuz of my friends, and then they mention woah u are 2.7 s...
ya psure i peaked in a boomer rbg where i snuck both caps and we won the gilneas in like 2 minutes
mystic barn
which is why I dislike rbgs, it’s boring bc it doesn’t feel competitive
sharp meteor
never heard so many people scream
mystic barn
even then shuffle doesn’t feel competitive
I just like arena format more in every game
unless it’s planet side 2 omega farm fest version of pvp
That’s kinda fun at times
pale minnow
i want to just play 3s with my team from last exp but they just have 2 kids, 2 jobs, 2 wives idk man...
mystic barn
my healer from sl plays dps now, healer I played some with this expac is unhinged
is what it is
sharp meteor
ye one of my healers dipped from the game cos was so overwhelmed with family/work stuff
mystic barn
I barely even put time into wow now, just work, gym and sleep
Occasional aram game and m+ until bracket inflates or smthing and lfg is viable
pale minnow
he was good no cap
mystic barn
He kinda hits the angle I do, most of my day to day is scheduled and when people try to schedule time to play with me I cringe a bit
Bc I don’t know if I’m in the mood for videogames at that day or time
pale minnow
he was panzer cathegory mist healer
mystic barn
Usually I’m pretty cooked after being out of the house for 15ish hours a day
being on a pc for 8 hours for work, going home then hopping on pc again or another 8 hours is suffering
I was def way more into gaming when I was working a labor job than being a banker
pale minnow
playing 2-3 h per day is nothing come on that's enough even to push glad
sage raptor
wait is comp stomp soon
yes
pale minnow
i get it it's hard to stay at pc all day, but that's not the case
mystic barn
well considering work is 9-5pm gym 6-9pm every day, then game 2-3 hours a day that’s a big commitment for me lol
pale minnow
gym 6-9?
sage raptor
funny number
mystic barn
I avg 2 hours min pushing hard with strength training, reaches 3 hours for rando accessories not counting driving to or from gym or mass eating
pale minnow
1h -1h30 shall be max for workout everything out of that time is just burning muscles
pale minnow
aight then
mystic barn
Just saying I get where he’s coming from, I understand the suffering on ur end too
Diff priorities
pale minnow
I understand him too, he had a great mentality tho wich i miss in many players
mystic barn
yep, which is why I haven’t been playing as much since most healers I know / knew already mentally burned out or became unhinged. R1 mentality whileas hardstuck 1800
cba dealing with that
like I get the brackets deflated rn but if u spam 3000 matches at 1800-1900 that’s on u
pale minnow
yeah f that, i did that once when i started pvp
mystic barn
my max 3s count in a season is ~500 games, rn I have ~100 in 3s
And mentally sane, does wonders
pale minnow
i would recommend for a new player in pvp to do that 3k games, record some of them and watch what was the mistake and try to improve
mystic barn
Ofc
It’s just when u have a tantrum every single game think it’s time to stop (even when winning)
Super obnoxious
pale minnow
may cause some mental burndowns but if someone want to get somewhere that's the price
pale minnow
It’s just when u have a tantrum every single game think it’s time to stop (even ...
yeah got that shit feeling even now, hate it
it's like an unending cycle when you on a winstreak you willing to push further, then you fall, you get demotivated, then lose streak comes, but you don't want to end the game as a loser so you keep on going until you do the winstreak again
mystic barn
I was perfectly fine at 2050 with 70% winrate earlier this ssn
just finding ways to complain about anything and everything just ruins the fun
defusing a ticking time bomb every match
I’d like to push, but with people I enjoy playing with
They gone now tho
Think that’s the key
New key is inflation and then lfg randoms
later in the ssn once I wanna bother
drifting jacinth
I'd still do 3's to keep skin in the game
so the last weeks of the season are smoother than butter
mystic barn
Issue is lfg is currently dead from shuffle but may open up later from inflation itself
I could just level up an alt and comp stomp and get practice games in with friendos that are stuck tho. Might just do that
drifting jacinth
true now's the best time to reroll
sharp meteor
should be a chill time in a month or two
drifting jacinth
50th warrior
mystic barn
lol
drifting jacinth
isn't it only gonna inflate by 250?
sharp meteor
my team wasn't around to queue for 3 days so i setup a new warr
mystic barn
R u still playing league duck
sharp meteor
haven't played league in so long
sharp meteor
sheesh
drifting jacinth
2.2k by april should be a good time to stop until inflation peaks
mystic barn
Also I think they said it’s 20 mmr week @drifting jacinth
sharp meteor
isn't it only gonna inflate by 250?
that's their artificial stuff, it'll be higher cos people will be queuing again
mystic barn
^
mild thunder
^
sharp meteor
i imagine this season ends up being somewhere between eternal and cosmic
mild thunder
barely tho
sharp meteor
basically the more people play the easiest it gets and so on
mild thunder
i cant imagine 3s will be that populated even by seasons end
sharp meteor
which is why shuffle is all fucked right now
mystic barn
once inflation begins rolling more people will q so we get more inflation overall
mild thunder
idk, i just dont buy it
some people will, but not heaps
not w/o more accessible incentives
sharp meteor
mfs not queuing cos its too hard which makes it harder goddamn
gonna beat everybody with 100 games played over the head
mystic barn
It still feels super scuffed getting 2.5k in 2 sitting in shuffle first few weeks when they said the mmr is exact same as 3s
Coulda been another unchained ssn
drifting jacinth
Also I think they said it’s 20 mmr week <@192880797869408257>
250 is the amount I calculated if season ends mid may
compounded
mystic barn
gonna beat everybody with 100 games played over the head
😎
drifting jacinth
that mount's gotta be incentive enough
mystic barn
It’s not when lfg is shitty
When u get every single reward but mount in shuffle
That u can q whenever and don’t have to submit job applications
fickle forge
Watch Blizz add mount to shuffle 😎👍
drifting jacinth
the only other rewards is a title you lose end of season and mogs
mystic barn
ya I’m 33/100 legend seems no point in getting title
drifting jacinth
mount sounds way more worth it imo
mystic barn
it is if it’s viable to get for more than just r1s rn
drifting jacinth
even if lfg is aids
fickle forge
Do you lose legend at season end?
fickle forge
Yeah then it's w/e
sage raptor
seasonal titles are stupid
drifting jacinth
judging by the ladder 1k-1.5k players'll get glad
unless a lot more players really want that mount
mystic barn
Doesn’t seem bad amount
muted surge
Legend is seasonal? So actually no point in trying to get it then
sharp meteor
just had the weirdest shuffle where somebody on the other team dc'd every round
drifting jacinth
honestly if 3's turn out the same way the rest of the seasons they're canning it next xpac
drifting jacinth
100%
muted surge
Wait is gladiator also seasonal ?
drifting jacinth
yea
muted surge
I thought there’s the base glad and the season glad
mystic barn
maybe they don’t wait until week 10 to inflate 3s? To stop all the mental burnout? Lol
sharp meteor
I thought there’s the base glad and the season glad
?
mystic barn
That was like the biggest scam I read
drifting jacinth
only r1 titles are kept
muted surge
I see
drifting jacinth
and the last cool one was eternal gladiator
mystic barn
Glad title meaning gladiator not unchained gladiator
vestal holly
I mean legend is seasonal, but the r1 title from SS is premanent pretty sure
So i been pushing for that
mystic barn
ye
drifting jacinth
but at least ya get a cool mount even if gladiator is temporary
vestal holly
Tru tru
im gonna try and push now that some inflation is happening, but the leaderboards are so pathetic rn
like you queue into r1 teams at 2200 lol
like wtf is that
drifting jacinth
yea waiting this long was fuckin retarded
nobody's gonna do 3's if they dont feel like theyre improving
topaz tulip
Why are rog and druid mains the most toxic people I find in this game, and why do rogs all have disc alts
Also, holy fuck was that a read. How did I miss the guy talking about beating his wife but made it for the guy who said elo hell is real
topaz tulip
drifting jacinth
dudes malding about shuffle actually makes me like shuffle even more
topaz tulip
Just to enjoy people suffering?
drifting jacinth
yea
drifting jacinth
I learn from the mistakes of the people here
sage raptor
I used to queue as a tank in shuffle for the rage whispers but people stopped caring
sharp meteor
was it pala tank
sage raptor
prot warr
drifting jacinth
sharp meteor
real and true
topaz tulip
I used to queue as a tank in shuffle for the rage whispers but people stopped ca...
How far did you make it?
drifting jacinth
sage raptor
so true bestie
fickle forge
Why play WoW when you can push lifts I mean
topaz tulip
How sad. I was actually wondering, if healers get isntaq's, and tanks replace healers, does that mean I can just fuck with people on prot and have instaqs too? Because I"ll fuckin do it
sage raptor
tanks dont replace healers anymore
drifting jacinth
topaz tulip
tanks dont replace healers anymore
damn since when?
fickle forge
Since release
sage raptor
since prepatch
topaz tulip
bullshit
sage raptor
yupp
topaz tulip
I've had no less than 5 games with two tanks no heals
and two with one tank one heal
fickle forge
Prot palas have their own bracket
topaz tulip
wat
sage raptor
prot pallys are considered healers and only queue into each other
drifting jacinth
whats the actual strat against tanks?
topaz tulip
okay but
drifting jacinth
I rarely come across them
sage raptor
whether or not your prot will actually heal is beyond me
topaz tulip
i've seen all of brew/blood/prot war all against each other
sage raptor
theyre considered dps
topaz tulip
though I do think the two healer tank games were with prot pallys
Okay but no healer. Just them
sage raptor
then this was in prepatch
topaz tulip
I started a week into df .-.
sage raptor
then you seeing things homie lol
topaz tulip
and started pvp near end of december
These kids got my mind fucked but i"m not that crazy
You don't forget the tilt when you realize that there are no healers around and your only safety is the brew that's never gonna die themselves
but know what, I think I'mma do it. Just play a game as prot and see how it goes. Maybe a change of pace will help keep me from tilting 200 cr as soon as I make it again
Oh but the talent study. This is gonna be dumb
sage raptor
Vin777
ON 2022/11/07PATCH 10.0.0
If tanks will count as dps then get ready for 20 minute queues.
this man seened the future
drifting jacinth
yea maybe blizz'll be less retarded next xpac
topaz tulip
prot got a 20 second spell wall??
sage raptor
yeah
prot has a lot of cool stuff
but you can thank Troma it got nerfed 3 weeks in a row lol
god I miss prot
drifting jacinth
lamest tank spec
sage raptor
you are literally smoking crack if prot is the lamest tank lol
drifting jacinth
blood dk all the way
topaz tulip
I honestly haven't paid attention to prot talents at all since I started playing again. Literally copy a build and read the key stuff. But some of this is wild. 14yd interrupt shout? 40% wall on 2min cd, + 30% heal and maxhp increase AND 40% wall also on 2min cd? damage adds to ignore pain? already knew about the additional stun charge and demo shout. And then the 40% wall drops cd on damn near every normal rotation cast. It's kind of wild how much survival is in prot kit.
sage raptor
I love how they nerfed blood even when it was the worst pvp spec in the game
sage raptor
if it makes people upset, I'll do it
drifting jacinth
like taking your dick out in public
sage raptor
i was talking about in wow but if you whip your schlong out in public then thats on you
sage raptor
certified dick whipper outer moment
drifting jacinth
bro the scariest nightmares I ever had
were the ones where I was in highschool with no pants
no underwear
sage raptor
yeah wtf was that about?
scarlet barn
If that is so
sage raptor
I had one dream like that
scarlet barn
You know nothing about nightmares
sage raptor
calm down edgelord
scarlet barn
M´lord *
sage raptor
you wouldnt like him when hes angry
drifting jacinth
I mean I've had pretty metal dreams
scarlet barn
drifting jacinth
there was one where I used a rock to break my teeth
sage raptor
there was one where a punch of people fell into a giant meat grinder
drifting jacinth
and like nails starts comin out of what was left of my gums
wasnt that scary tbh
or even scary at all
its the realistic dreams that truly horrify me
sage raptor
I had a nightmare that I ran a haunted hospital but I didnt know until stuff thats too long to list started happening
it was pretty metal
drifting jacinth
idk a lot of shit stopped scaring me after I dropped LSD
its like.... witchcraft
sage raptor
you worry too much
drifting jacinth
MK Ultra
sage raptor
moved from drugs to your screen
drifting jacinth
legitimately a Psy op
mystic barn
tbf it was razonko fault
scarlet barn
Surely
mystic barn
and fartji
sage raptor
I learned something the other day
drifting jacinth
that speeding tickets are avoidable if u mention court?
topaz tulip
Okay serious question though
sage raptor
you can tell how autistic someone is by how often they say "Lets just say..." in a conversation
topaz tulip
why do people hate tanks in pvp so much?
mystic barn
bc most of them are terribly designed for pvp
and it just feels bullshit to play with or against
sage raptor
why do people hate tanks in pvp so much?
fun fact, people who hate on tanks have a favorite flavor of cock
drifting jacinth
Lets just say... my anus is bleeding
sage raptor
lets just say... my dad never came back with the milk and lets just say... mom cries every night
tell me im lying though
they say that allll the time
sage raptor
have you seen that video of the guy who was playing a game and his mom came into his room and the guy smelled like shit because he was shitting himself?
drifting jacinth
sage raptor
"GO TO THE BATHROOM YOURE LITERALLY SHITTING YOURSELF" "I dont wanna"
drifting jacinth
is there a legit psychology behind the "Lets just say.." shit?
sage raptor
I have no clue but the autistics I meet have a 100% batting average of saying that
shy aurora
Good morning chads
sage raptor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri1MrA7cbNo ah yes. art
drifting jacinth
I remember coming across an autistic dude watching Thomas the tank engine
drifting jacinth
ppl on the spectrum kinda creep me out
sage raptor
It used to not be that way but one stalked me
sage raptor
irl
drifting jacinth
maybe they wanted a friend
sage raptor
welllll
drifting jacinth
drifting jacinth
what lvl was their sneak?
sage raptor
well he didnt stop staring so it wasnt high
sage raptor
he moved away
scarlet barn
what lvl was their sneak?
topaz tulip
Guise, does this work?
fickle forge
@steep inlet You still pushing prot dude?
sage raptor
That's pretty close to what I run
topaz tulip
Bet. gonna run a skirmish and see
steep inlet
<@143764641649131520> You still pushing prot dude?
nop nerfs destroyed it sadly
i'm chilling at 2500 arms
but not playing a lot
i play alts
topaz tulip
nop nerfs destroyed it sadly
Destroyed like fury is better or destroyed like it's just not as effective? See above, trying to fuck around with prot to wash off some arms salt
sage raptor
Destroyed as in wet noodles hit harder
sage raptor
It's horrendous
topaz tulip
Feels super bad without haste
acoustic sparrow
i'm chilling at 2500 arms
What build do you use after burst nerfs?
shy aurora
burst nerfs to arms or prot ? wot
steel trout
Prot
topaz tulip
How is it that ss can have all 6 people land in the lobby just fine but skirmish has someone who either never joins or leaves at start every 3rd game?
sage raptor
Because you touch yourself at night
topaz tulip
That's probably exactly what it is
sage raptor
XD
topaz tulip
Aight fuck it. A bit more familiar with the keybinds now. Gonna go see how this works in the real shit
I see what you mean about low burst though. Dps is basically half of arms
sage raptor
Sadge
topaz tulip
While I'm thinking about it, does anyone here use dynamicmacros? I've got healer auto set fine and chat is updating dps and healer names, but won't cast the ability for the dps macro
scarlet barn
i'm chilling at 2500 arms
3s or shuffle
topaz tulip
Yeah that wasn't fun. People are dumb. Intervene/bodyguard and then they walk away immediately
dark sparrow
we didnt push
what comp you running/going to run?
steep inlet
ret arms with my brother as usual
topaz tulip
So, just to confirm cuz I don't really understand what they were implying - if I just didn't play at all from say, 1700, then in the next 10 weeks I'd be 1800 without playing at all?
dark sparrow
Man I wish my brother would still play pvp, he was pretty decent healer but he cba'd and is Pve andy now
dark sparrow
So, just to confirm cuz I don't really understand what they were implying - if I...
no
steep inlet
ret rework + inflation = boom
dark sparrow
isnt ret rework till after season ends?
vestal holly
So, just to confirm cuz I don't really understand what they were implying - if I...
inflation means mmr caps are pushed up, so higher skill players will rise higher therefore allowing other people at the mid and high tier to push. Kind of like extending the braket
so instead of being hardstuck 1700
youll be hardstuck like 1800 or 1900
dark sparrow
Yep the amount of cr gained/lost will change depending on inflation and where you're at
topaz tulip
no
I get it, makes sense. so in another 4 weeks if I've only been able to last at 1700 I'd be competing with the same people at the 1800 skill floor
frank knoll
Ohh god what’s the Ret rework
cinder thorn
Guys what are the commissions like for gem work orders these days?
Also when season ends do we lose all the gems in current gear when we upgrade or can we take them out?
frank knoll
All that means to me at first glance is: “we’ve decided to make Ret paladin burst damage more absurd but with no changes to their glaring mobility issues”
dark sparrow
Also when season ends do we lose all the gems in current gear when we upgrade or...
you cant take out gems. And depends on your crafter, they set the price and you can try to negotiate
cinder thorn
you cant take out gems. And depends on your crafter, they set the price and you ...
OK when season ends do we upgrade existing gear with new gear and keep enchants and gems or are they all lost and start from scratch?
sage raptor
All that means to me at first glance is: “we’ve decided to make Ret paladin burs...
They're removing buttons and giving them mobility
Including leap
It's an actual rework
They'll survive more too
dark sparrow
OK when season ends do we upgrade existing gear with new gear and keep enchants ...
nope its totally new gearset so its all lost once you replace old gear
so they will be a better version of arms is what i heard
surreal compass
Hey guys is dark iron dwarf just superior to dwarf in every way ?
I just unlocked dark iron, and wondering since they have like a better stoneform
elfin surge
when was the last time mud even streamed proper 3s? <:keks:936231610850897992>
2 weeks ago
sly walrus
sage raptor
You okay dood?
vestal holly
SS makes my brain rot
I’ve actually lost so much IQ this season, I can feel my head pulsating after 2 games
spark oyster
Battle trance in BG’s is insane. Too bad it loses so much of its strength in arena to dampening. Like everything else…
mortal elm
wow 1-5
-60
hits so hard
after gaining 12 13 rating slowly
and 3-3 unrated games
its like
my 10 hour of work crushed
only in 5 min
O_O
quick carbon
just go 5-1
shy aurora
wow 1-5
Just had the same day
Is feral supposdd to flop? I feel like they are raidboss in solo w
quick carbon
they’re squishier in solo q because everyone u fight is usually omega dogshit
hazy isle
ret arms with my brother as usual
Lol literally the same. My younger brother plays ret
steep inlet
same
warm portal
Is feral supposdd to flop? I feel like they are raidboss in solo w
Their big heal gets gutted by damp too
elfin surge
I found a brewmaster in a shuffle lobby last night
onyx valve
Garbage tier or actually could play it?
I’ve seen Chun play it once and the other couple I’ve seen were free
thick reef
A newly 70 war in pvp is not fun at all, Jesus Christ i can’t wait to have some gear for him 😂
quick carbon
Fresh 70 anything isn’t fun brother
frank knoll
BMonk is kinda like a WW that’s tankier but can’t one shot you and has more annoying CC
floral nymph
Should i get Rend when i'm using a spear build (no bleed) ?
thick reef
Fresh 70 anything isn’t fun brother
Rogue wasn’t too bad. Just came back to wow a little over a month ago from a 14 year or more break lol. I stopped playing like a few weeks before mop dropped. My mains were war priest lock and rogue. Got my rogue and lock to 70, just hit 70 on war today.
Rogue was pretty easy in BG’s as a new 70
dark sparrow
you should bg before you hit 70, much more fun
im leveling my rogue now for the last level with bg purely
frank knoll
Mm hunter has to be the funnest BG spec
sturdy carbon
Mm hunter has to be the funnest BG spec
How so?
thorn herald
I found a brewmaster in a shuffle lobby last night
I fought feral mw brm in rated 3s last night
As turbo
Fistweaving is so obnoxious if you are a cleave lol
spark oyster
When not interested in set bonuses (fury spec) it looks like the set gear still is appealing because of stat distro…or am I being dumb?
elfin surge
Should i get Rend when i'm using a spear build (no bleed) ?
yes
safe glen
is fury currently ok in battlegrounds and solo shuffle? For some reason i find fury easier than arms
grand scaffold
is fury currently ok in battlegrounds and solo shuffle? For some reason i find f...
arms ftw
grand scaffold
nah you can do it
lemme send mine
BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkkQkkSpkEAAAAQCRioRCQENkkAHgiEhEgkEJAAAAAAAAEpkICA0QA
speart
BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERCJJpUKJBAAAAEEJCkEQENIJJJhmEhEAEJAAAAAAAAkkSCCIQDB
roar
open ridge
do i have to know every class spells to start in pvp ? i am very new to Wow and kinda reluctant to step inside pvp.
safe glen
When you say "spear" and "roar" does that mean these two skills are my win condition?
grand scaffold
When you say "spear" and "roar" does that mean these two skills are my win condi...
not necessarily
those are just what you play with
like 1 build has spear talented
safe glen
i see
grand scaffold
you use it with burst
its more of a mortal strike build
spear sucks into warlocks and pet classes
roar is good into those things
and is a bleed focused build
safe glen
and spear is more upfront damage?
grand scaffold
hard to answer that
roar does more dmg
spear itself doesnt do that much dmg
but if somebody cant leave spear
they basically lose
on the second g
go*
warm portal
TLDR Spear is just better if you fight something that can't escape it
safe glen
are both bleed focused or only the roar build?
and what exactly does bleed focussed mean lol
grand scaffold
bleed focused means the build is focused on bleed dmg
like more rend dmg
like more of your dmg is from bleeds
and no spear isnt bleed focused
grand scaffold
its more of a mortal strike build
.
safe glen
so i can chose between a mortal strike build, and a bleed build basically?
grand scaffold
yes
can also play skullsplitter
which is very fun
demolishes mages
and demolishes warlocks
safe glen
im an absolute pvp noob i just need some more or less straight forward build lol
safe glen
for the bleed build: Does it mean my damage is mostly over time, instead of bursty?
safe glen
which one has fewer buttons? 😄
covert abyss
Run spear bröthër
grand scaffold
thank you
🙂
dot maintenance isnt TOO important in spear
it is very important in bleeds
you still gotta do it tho
safe glen
you mean keeping up rend?
safe glen
hahahahaha thats what i needed to hear, thank you
covert abyss
Y’all running mouseover spears or nah? I swapped back to the ground target after too many Hail Mary whiffs
sturdy carbon
Y’all running mouseover spears or nah? I swapped back to the ground target after...
That's an excellent question. I'm the exact same
shy aurora
Idk what i like most
I wanna play more spear, but i win most games when i play skullsplitter actually
elfin surge
slender lion
Y’all running mouseover spears or nah? I swapped back to the ground target after...
I play mouse over. Either or can't predict someone's movement 1 sec after cast. Just stun if u think they will move suddenly
slender lion
I wanna play more spear, but i win most games when i play skullsplitter actually
Bleeds good for rogues too. Cant restealth. Killed one yest with it as he kite me too late. Bled out
spark oyster
is fury currently ok in battlegrounds and solo shuffle? For some reason i find f...
I use fury but I’m an idiot. It’s got a learning curve for sure plus it’s missing good things that arms has. I don’t blame you though, fury is fun. Edit: when I say learning curve I mean..it has less buttons but certain ways to do things. I’m super new at it. Ndogo seems to be the OG at this so he’s my unofficial mentor.
shy aurora
Bleeds good for rogues too. Cant restealth. Killed one yest with it as he kite m...
Yeh i usually go bleed roar build +skull
thick reef
What’s the crafts helm called?
mortal elm
What’s the crafts helm called?
infurious helm or smt
cinder thorn
Guys I decided to say fuck you to all addons
And see how high I can get in arena with zero addons
Real men don't need addons
cinder thorn
FU omnibar, gladius, plater, omnicc, omnimyass, bigdebuffs
Actually I'm doing well with less screen clutter
Just need my sword hand on hilt
covert abyss
You should try using omnibar, gladius, plater, omnicc, onmimyass, bigdebuffs
cinder thorn
I did, too much headache and shit on screen, can't be bothered to set it up and get weakauras for every new fart they add to the game
Even running addon manager and updating them etc is pfff
onyx valve
real men stuck at 1.4 cr
PvP sub on Reddit says warrior and DH is free 2400 if you hold down W though
cinder thorn
I just wanna go in, kill noobs and get out
cinder thorn
PvP sub on Reddit says warrior and DH is free 2400 if you hold down W though
Good point
And if its true then all warriors should be 2400 and none below
shy aurora
Im stuck between 2-2200 gege
balmy ingot
Never enter in a dungeon/raid when accept solo shuffle queque
i got tp out from the arena and lost 150 points
nice interation -.-
shy aurora
You can kill totems etc with it
green anchor
do you even use slam?
I took it off my bars lol... just using Rend instead
does the same dmg and costs the same rage
haven't seen anyone try a Slam build
safe glen
and should i use honor gear, or bloody token gear?
sharp meteor
depends on wat stats u want
stark gulch
are people going crit or haste for roar builds?
primal cloud
do you even use slam?
lmao, I just came here to ask that exact same question
sharp meteor
a mix of btoh feels nice
sharp meteor
haven't seen anyone try a Slam build
i tried it and it isn't the worst but like
it feels awk cos u have op/slam up so much
balmy field
for arms pvp??? full crit versa?
primal cloud
for arms pvp??? full crit versa?
sharp meteor
sure
hazy isle
I think the soijack was modeled after supatease
mortal elm
how much rating you are usually getting from 4-2s?
lucid walrus
at least 2
balmy field
i use to go to 1.6 easy and this exp i cant go more than 1.4 im to baaad xD
steel trout
how much rating you are usually getting from 4-2s?
depends on ur mmr
mortal elm
depends on ur mmr
well for me, it was 1600 before that 1-5
now it fell down to 1510 even tho i were 1560
steel trout
if u have higher mmr than cr u can gain rating for a 2-4
mortal elm
https://i.redd.it/8ibbhid80nfa1.png
what a helpful graph
it seems i were in gray zone then fell into red in the morning
before i went offline
topaz tulip
it seems i were in gray zone then fell into red in the morning
Happens. Most of the time that last lobby is the one you shouldn't have played lol
fickle forge
In the end, it's MMR based though
No zones or anything
But it's a decent way to sort of map it out
stark gulch
i use to go to 1.6 easy and this exp i cant go more than 1.4 im to baaad xD
same but stuck in 1300s lol need to uninstall
had my first good SS session, won first 3, someone left. nothing but a loading screen lol
earnest wharf
you should break that soon. I did nothing but M+ all season till last week and did my first SS. I play SS like I'm grinding dungeons just smashing buttons and maximizing dps like a true zugzug brain warrior lol
bitter lantern
when you take roar do you take both points below it
earnest wharf
only did 4 SS fights and at 1450 now, so zugzug maximizing dps can get us at least a little higher than 1300s lol
green anchor
Damn I just randomly looted a Bottled Essence somewhere while mining ore lol
Time to get that crafted pvp helmet for extra spice
noble moat
if u have higher mmr than cr u can gain rating for a 2-4
I got 30 rating earlier today, rating was 2000, mmr was 2100
After that it was tucked again
vital hill
Why is arms war pvp so fun
pulsar plank
is rend mandatory for arms
green anchor
seems to be... not sure what else could be better really
mortal elm
how to turn tides
when its healer diff?
had so much games where healers are 6-0
all dps are 3-3 cause of that healer
vagrant gulch
yo guys, how important is the 2set from the open pvp eq for us?
i mean its versa ye nice but i could take the crit waist from the vault tho
green anchor
the +100 versa?
vagrant gulch
yee
green anchor
not worth it imo
green anchor
rather get 2 versa gems lol
vagrant gulch
rather get 2 versa gems lol
since i am full eq now i can aim for the gems
green anchor
I'd get one 70 versa gem
rest crit/haste I guess
But I'm trying to go with crit/mastery
can't wait for it to backfire on me
mild thunder
yo guys, how important is the 2set from the open pvp eq for us?
eq?
you mean the wpvp gear?
vagrant gulch
ye
steep cairn
how much versatility is optimum?
primal cloud
The more the better
mortal elm
damn i didnt know evokers are incredible
on zuldazar map
he was literally untouchable
getting +50 rating and -50 rating immidietly wouldnt hurt
if queue times were not 30 min
cinder thorn
Does anyone have a working totem kill macro or did they disable these a few years ago? I stopped playing 8 years ago so a bit old school
sharp meteor
Does anyone have a working totem kill macro or did they disable these a few year...
my man those have been dead for like
fifteen years
mystic barn
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,exists,harm][@target] Festering Strike
just replace festering
thick reef
What would you’s say is the hardest class for you’s ti beat? Or just the highest skill gap in general?
thick reef
Yeah they always been rough even vanilla when i used to play. Although i maimed rogue back then more
Now it’s between rogue and war equally
sharp meteor
hm
assa ain't fun to deal with
worst is probs something like a combination of frost, ele or warlock on big map
high star
i hate the zandalar map so much
sharp meteor
hate mogumbooga
mild thunder
in a 1v1?
in a 1v1? literally anything
if your opponent has a brain, there's no spec in the game that should lose to arms in a 1v1
mild thunder
yep, and no reason they should change it either
but imo, sv is probably the best, or one of the best, 1v1 specs in the game
has solid counterplay into anything
sharp meteor
oh how do people find themselves in isolated 1v1
just walk away and go fight on a flag or something
mild thunder
idk, why even bother asking about 1v1s in a warr discord, the answer is never gonna be good
sharp meteor
i mean you can crush plenty of people in random wpvp encounters or w/e
mild thunder
i've had to finish off a few 2s/3s matches with 1v1s this season tho
sharp meteor
3v3 2v2s have me sweatin bullets
mild thunder
we had a 3s game into double rogue that turned into a 2v2
i stg something clicked and i turned into a literal god and stopped every single kidney when it was a 2v2... shame i cant do it when it matters
sharp meteor
just had a cracked queue sesh and worried imma plummet back into the depths if i queue again
sharp meteor
idk, why even bother asking about 1v1s in a warr discord, the answer is never go...
and honestly like opportunistic 1v1s can be fine
if it's like a duel or something then yuck
sharp meteor
ya swing into people as hard as possible can usually brute force them
with ip and pend its better than it has been in the past
get a value reflect, parry high, etc
mild thunder
yea parry/reflect are a godsend in those situations
high star
burst
rocket boot / glider away
come back 2 min later when hes fighting a mob
thats the 1v1 strat
sharp meteor
unless its like a ret with bubble u can kill a decent chunk of people
ret just bops/bubbles stuff off and stalls fight out too long
most other stuff spaghettis all over themselves and dies
thick reef
if your opponent has a brain, there's no spec in the game that should lose to ar...
You’re saying arms sucks in 1v1 situations?
mild thunder
objectively, yes
thick reef
Yeah honestly i feel like rogue is the highest ceiling. Feel like an overly good rogue can beat any class.
sharp meteor
Yeah honestly i feel like rogue is the highest ceiling. Feel like an overly good...
ya but
can also just
kidney off dr
like every other melee
thick reef
sv has a pretty good matchup into assa
Sv?
mild thunder
survival
sv can definitely die in stuns tho, if the rogue is cc'ing the pet to stop sac
thick reef
Yeah hunters been crazy since i started playing in old wow
mild thunder
classic hunter seriously overrated in pvp
thick reef
Them and mages used to be my kryptonite back then.
mild thunder
just play in the deadzone and they're fucked lol
thick reef
Yeah right now i’m just having a lot of back and forth. Not sure who i want to “main” my rogue is the most geared, then probably the lock, then the war. And i have my priest for when i just want to chill and not have to play as sweaty lol
sharp meteor
just play w/e alts are fast to setup
mild thunder
never decide what to play based on what's good, because 1. you'll get far further mastering a spec you find fun than changing specs to whatever is strong that week, and 2. we will mock you
sharp meteor
everybody rerolling every 2 weeks when tuning is done
tomorrow they gon nerf ele by 15% or something then buff aff by 10% and lock cord will jsut be a bunch of green leafs asking if aff is s tier
mild thunder
tomorrow they gon nerf ele by 15% or something then buff aff by 10% and lock cor...
yup
wanton spruce
hello everyone i am kinda new to the server wanted to ask some min max on gemming for arms pvp. i read the pin. my current stats are 21% crit 15% haste mas and 32% vers. no buffs and before queing into pvp. what should i "min/max"
sharp meteor
yup
or arms gets a 1% nerf
and cord here is just
"guys do we go fury"
"i wanna be optimal for my elite set shuffle push"
mild thunder
- stats outside of pvp don't matter
- vers/crit or vers/haste are best, doesn't matter
mild thunder
hello everyone i am kinda new to the server wanted to ask some min max on gemmin...
^
wanton spruce
@mild thunder ok ty for your help
sharp meteor
imma make a tauren arms warr that's all crit/mastery with zero haste
and just randomly kill people with giant swings
(it is going to feel awful in sustained combat)
mild thunder
imma make a tauren arms warr that's all crit/mastery with zero haste
at least it suits tauren xD
i'm really enjoyin an even crit/haste split
have about 19% haste, 21% crit atm
sharp meteor
ya that's probably what i'll end up using the most
really enjoying alt warrs for the variety in animations and stuff tho
gonna be funny hitting like 12% harder on tauren or something
sharp meteor
right now it's dark iron vulpera and worgen
leveling tauren and might do a second dark iron
mystic barn
furry
stark gulch
any point in disarming enhance shammy? i really don't know shit about them
stark gulch
ok ty
sharp meteor
usually they play with warr tho and disarming warbreaker usually seems preferable
stark gulch
yeah would definitely go for war in that case. I am just doing skirmish trying out spear because I have been running roar and want to play around
and need to learn other classes better
primal cloud
Man, how am I supposed to grind Conquest when every single player I'm matched with in Solo Shuffle has full Conquest gear? I'm still in full Honor gear because I can't get 3+ wins
mild thunder
tbf you can probably get like 2200+ with just honour gear
it's not that big of a gap
sharp meteor
o ya did that with slam build on alt
thick reef
I don’t think i could level a second of a class i already have, although i may do rogue because i want him on a better server.
sharp meteor
felt fine with like no tier or wep
it almost felt like honor gear had hidden scaling
cos i didn't feel more powerful with conq gear
thick reef
My rogue is on lightnings blade and i want to goto something like tich, Sarg, illidan or area
sharp meteor
imma probs feed an alt and see how far i can get with 411 ilev
like just honor gear with enchants
maybe 2pc tier hm
thick reef
Lightnings blade is a high pop server so i’m not sure. Is solo shuf and all pvp wow wide? Like is every server thrown in?
Because if so then i won’t even need to move to another server
sharp meteor
is region wide yerrr
thick reef
Wanna make a dwarf rogue. Everyone says night elf is best but i feel like because of dwarf racial they have to be the best being able to remove bleeds for sealth
Oh shit, okay. That’s cool, so i don’t even need to move him.
Not even sure what region lightnings blade is. I’ll have to check later haha.
primal cloud
Honestly though, I'm just really struggling as melee regardless of class and spec. Warrior, Rogue, Paladin, Monk, Druid; I perform way worse with them than I do Warlock, Priest, or Hunter.
I get that it gets better with practice, but it's just so demoralizing
mild thunder
felt fine with like no tier or wep
tier defs not mandatory for warr
it's only what, an 11 item lvl diff anyway?
mild thunder
Wanna make a dwarf rogue. Everyone says night elf is best but i feel like becaus...
racials honestly do not matter
unless you're playing at the highest of play in pvp
there are cool quirks (like being able to meld > sap/cs), but it's not make-or-break
sharp meteor
honestly dreading playing my meme races after dark iron saved like 3 wins the other day
tardy flame
Appearance & animation > RP flavour > racial abilities
Or just be DID and get the best of all three
sharp meteor
ya worst case scenario is rly just losing a game or two here and there
won't impede ability to climb short of like r1 range
just feels bad to not be able to dwarf off like
300k dmg worth of dots
tardy flame
I've been a dwarf since early vanilla. I can't imagine playing the game without stoneform
Dwarf Kyrian protection paladin was incredible
sharp meteor
ya most racials aren't even bad
like nightborne warr is a rough go
but can still get 2400+
tardy flame
For sure. Might take a little longer if you lose a game or two due to not having The Correct Racial, but totally doable
But you'll lose games as DID that you'd've won as NE, or Gnome, or anything else
sharp meteor
ya i have def trolled some games as dwarf
whoops fireblodo offensively
im in a kidney
oh no there's bomb
tardy flame
Yup, I've accidentally put myself on trinket CD and died because of it
I've also killed myself by removing UA
Still 2400 /shrug
sharp meteor
mhm
tardy flame
All of that is worth it to remove Mindgames but
fickle token
newb question... does primal infusion on crafted matter for pvp?
fickle token
cool ty!
sharp meteor
lariat and the titanic ring look kind of appealing
especially if not being hit as much
stat budget is shifted away from vers
which is generally not the best dmg stat
sharp meteor
i killed some rare and got like 7 azerite power
undone pumice
)
spiral totem
yoo when are we getting the pvp illusion?
mild thunder
Or just be DID and get the best of all three
DID heritage is sick, and some mogs look awesome
but too many mogs look so bad on short little fuckers
lean burrow
no
mild thunder
probs a month and a bit
lean burrow
spiral totem
drifting jacinth
leaks said likely April
sage raptor
we know its spring
drifting jacinth
the most merciful time for 10.1 to drop would be July
definitely not droppin in June
drifting jacinth
of course
they gotta make up for all the cannibalizing shuffle did
also gives enough time to do mythic Raz, that fight looks cool af
copper hare
also gives enough time to do mythic Raz, that fight looks cool af
It is really fun.