pvp

[mild thunder]

that's like saying we shouldn't break bones because we're a master of weapons not of bone-breaking

[delicate ginkgo]

we should do more weapon dmg than any other class

imo

[mild thunder]

we are the most weapon-focused of any spec

[obtuse coral]

i really just went 1-5 and got +1 raiting

[mild thunder]

why do you think we get disarmed before anyone else in the game?

[unreal socket]

So is the jist with SKS, to get Rend+DW up, use roar + CS then SKS

[delicate ginkgo]

we sure need our weapon for everything. but our mastery does not reflect us being masters of weapons/arms

[mild thunder]

bleeds have been a part of the arms playstyle since vanilla

[mild thunder]

we make people bleed, then punish them even further?

[delicate ginkgo]

imo a more fitting would be " your mastery of armaments makes you deal more dmg with your weapon. greatly improving your auto attacks."

then they make white hits more important also

[mild thunder]

the mastery sucks because it's a boring statstick, not because it's bleed-centric

so you want our mastery to be a passive aa buff?

bruh

go play outlaw fr fr

[delicate ginkgo]

energy is no fun. rage is fun

also bring back heroic strike

what I really want is for blizzard to remove the %scaling of our dmg from deep wounds

cos %scaling just makes stuff boring and lackluster on aoe etc if you miss it on that target

[mild thunder]

and a passive aa-buff isn't boring?

[delicate ginkgo]

its unique atleast. and fits the description

[muted surge]

Let our mastery be like evokers just for execute

[mild thunder]

it's not unique at all

[delicate ginkgo]

we already get our rage from autos

[muted surge]

How is it unique

[mild thunder]

you literally just asked for the outlaw mastery

[muted surge]

It’s just % gain

[delicate ginkgo]

and if they gave us heroic strike as a talent to replace slam

it would fit even better too

[mild thunder]

not unless they actually add extra functionality

[delicate ginkgo]

outlaws mastery is just swordspec. not what I am asking for

[mild thunder]

and no, heroic strike functioning as an aa stim is not a good idea

[grand scaffold]

bro what the fuck

1-5 +1?

ide be crimson legend with that

😂

[delicate ginkgo]

heroic strike is the perfect counterbalance for gameplay with rage to ignore pain

do I spend it for dmg or survivability

[mild thunder]

no, the perfect fix is for arms to not have to rely on off-gcd spenders to manage rage

nor should low-CD mitigation like ignore pain be in the game

it's a beautiful ability and im glad to have it, but it's not particularly good for the game

it's far healthier to attach passive tankiness to a negative effect like they did with defensive stance

the problem now is that defensive stance doesnt defend us from anything

[obtuse coral]

swap dstance numbers

15% reduced take 10% less delt

[mild thunder]

15% would also be useless

[grand scaffold]

wasnt everybody literally complaining that ignore pain isnt in the game

[grand scaffold]

no way

[mild thunder]

it needs to be 20%/30%

[grand scaffold]

then just sit d stance

[obtuse coral]

wait

[grand scaffold]

and you will do more dmg

and take less dmg

[mild thunder]

we need ignore pain because defensive stance is shit

a better fix always would've been making dstance not shit

[delicate ginkgo]

need to remember that battle stance has a 3% crit bonus too. and shorter slows on you

[grand scaffold]

i think d stance should be 20%

25%

30% is too big

[delicate ginkgo]

so the negative side of dstance does not have to be as big

[obtuse coral]

it already is 15% less taken but deal 10% less

tf

i thought it was the other way

[grand scaffold]

no

go into pvp

like attack pvp dummy

[obtuse coral]

oh is it swapped in pvp

[mild thunder]

20/20 was insanely broken

[obtuse coral]

that makes sense

[mild thunder]

20/30 is the fairest way to tune dstance

[grand scaffold]

was too good

no

just no

30% less dmg done

[delicate ginkgo]

back in shadowlands when we had no battlestance yeah?

[grand scaffold]

would suck

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[mild thunder]

yea it would suck

guess what? you shouldnt be sitting dstance

[delicate ginkgo]

i member back when it was 20/10

[grand scaffold]

yeah

same here

[delicate ginkgo]

good times

[obtuse coral]

all i want is our defensive not to be countered by a disarm

[grand scaffold]

those were the days

[mild thunder]

you should be rewarded for preemptively dstancing cc setups, and punished for sitting in it long-term

[grand scaffold]

i dont like 20 30

sounds dumb

15 20

[mild thunder]

if you think 3% crit and a meaningless snare reduction is enough to justify 20/20 dstance, idk what to say

[delicate ginkgo]

as we are masters of armaments. maybe we should use sword and board and be tankier in dstance SMILERS

[hollow ore]

masters of getting disarmed by a chicken, a monk doing backflips, and everything in-between

[grand scaffold]

some ding dong left the game

[delicate ginkgo]

maybe warrior needs a complete overhaul of its utility and defensive kit. especialy stances since they are not actualy coded like real stances but auras currently too

[wooden grove]

Looks like you got hella lucky they left

[grand scaffold]

not utility

its utility is very nice

[limber relic]

Buff warr pls

[grand scaffold]

nah

i wish they didnt

that lock had 0 cr

was gonna go 4-2 atleast

[delicate ginkgo]

warriors dont need buffs

we are perfectly strong but not giga OP atm

[grand scaffold]

fury buffs

PLEASE

[limber relic]

Yes pls moar buffs

[delicate ginkgo]

fury belongs in pve

[grand scaffold]

no

[delicate ginkgo]

I got glad as fury in bfa s2 and I say that with confidence fury belongs in pve

[limber relic]

Warr b tier pls buff

Moar dmg

[delicate ginkgo]

B tier is the perfect tier to be my dude

[limber relic]

Moar defensives

[wooden grove]

What’s another class that says one of their specs is PvE only

[limber relic]

We're A tier tho

[delicate ginkgo]

if we are A tier then we should maybe recive a small nerf

[grand scaffold]

no

[limber relic]

We did

[grand scaffold]

a tier is where things are supposed to be

[delicate ginkgo]

but I dont think we are A tier on a a-f scale with s tier for assa rogue

[grand scaffold]

bro you are backwards no offense

[limber relic]

Assa is just op

[grand scaffold]

yah

[limber relic]

Warr are in a good spot tbh

[grand scaffold]

9/10 season

seasons*

[wooden grove]

There’s 3 rogue specs at least one is always op in PvP

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[limber relic]

Rmp always best spec

[grand scaffold]

this time its sub and assass

sub 1 shots

[limber relic]

Someone at blizz loves rogues

[grand scaffold]

so stupid

[wooden grove]

Mage lover must’ve been fired cause they’ve been hurting 😂

[delicate ginkgo]

rogues are just designed in a way to always have utility

but if they get dmg nerf people complain to much

thats why they are always top for pvp

control is king

and will always be king

[limber relic]

I mean SL mage was kinda bad ngl

[limber relic]

Make kidney 4s and they are fine tbh

And make kick 4s instead of 5

Thats the most stupid shit

[hollow ore]

poly on same DR as blind/sap

problem solved

[limber relic]

That kick is 5s lockout

[hollow ore]

comp solved

rmp isn't win-win if played perfectly

ggz

6s kidney is still needed for kill windows

[limber relic]

6s kidney is too op

[hollow ore]

the spam poly/blind/reset/constant kick is

i fkin hate rmp with my guts

[limber relic]

On a 15s cd

[hollow ore]

but i wouldn't nerf kidney

[limber relic]

Disgusting

[hollow ore]

given i hate everything mage related

[delicate ginkgo]

remove current iteration of shiv

[hollow ore]

remove mage rogue priest

problem solved

[limber relic]

And remove hemotoxin pls

Shiv is fine. Just remove hemotoxin

[grand scaffold]

yeah

2 shiv hemotoxin is just stupid af

[limber relic]

Yeah

If hemo is gone and kidney is 4s

They are fine

Tbh

[delicate ginkgo]

tbh. buff execute by 100%

[limber relic]

Yes pls

I did a 100k execute with no cds on a rogue yesterday. Its not enough

Need more

I wna play more thundercleave

Its so fun

Ppl that say sp warr havent seen thundercleave

[grand scaffold]

tf is duelist elite rank

😂

[limber relic]

Yeah i got that too

Its also 8/9 but 408 ilvl

But u cant upgrade it 😂

[delicate ginkgo]

"Execute your target dealing 20% of targets maximum health in a devestating attack. This ability can't be parried. dodged, or miss"

[limber relic]

Thats way too little

30%

And can be used at 35% health

Gege

[delicate ginkgo]

lets meet in the middle. usable at 35% and does 40% of target max health

[limber relic]

On a serious note, can we talk about the ammount of warlocks in arena rn?

[grand scaffold]

execute should literally execute

[limber relic]

Didnt hunters execute do that?😂

[grand scaffold]

nah

it just does a lot of dmg

[limber relic]

Same same

[delicate ginkgo]

"Finish off a foe, causing up to THEIR ENTIRE HEALTHPOOL to drop to 0 health, in physical damage. Only usable of targets that have less than 35% health. If your foe survives, dont fret blizzard is here and will nerf their class next hotfix"

[limber relic]

Execute range = ded

[delicate ginkgo]

honestly when does blizzard hire me

[hollow ore]

"also execution sentence from SL is now baseline making it a 15 yds killing blow"

[limber relic]

Or just
"Finishing off your target, killing it instantly, only useable at 35%"

[hollow ore]

"cleaves"

"bounces to nearby targets"

[limber relic]

😂

[hollow ore]

sounds like my kind of execute right there

[limber relic]

"Spreads across 40yards"

[hollow ore]

yessir

[limber relic]

Lmao

[hollow ore]

we forgot the most important part

it's off the gcd

👍

reaches 35% instantly die

and breaks immunities ofc

[grand scaffold]

ez

making bm hunters go 0-6

good times

[limber relic]

😂

[hollow ore]

just grief mages on sight

5head

[winged quest]

i can upgrade leg and glove more than 6/9 its normal so ?

[grand scaffold]

im reporting any griefers i see tbh

useless people

[limber relic]

Yeah but my items were 8/9 and said duelist elite

But is 408ilvl which should be 9/9

[winged quest]

strange

mine 9/9

but glove and leg say rival duelliste

[grand scaffold]

bro

we got those hidden ranks

duelist elites out here

[limber relic]

Premium rank

[grand scaffold]

just need a new ring and polearms

polearm*

then im fully geared

[lean burrow]

Why are you on 1800 now?

[grand scaffold]

told you

i swapped fury

as fury all i need is 2700

and i get crimson legend garanteed

[delicate ginkgo]

if dragonflight does not have exactly 4 seasons. I am suing blizzard

[grand scaffold]

whats so important about 4 seasons

[delicate ginkgo]

whats the name of this season

[grand scaffold]

dragonflight?

season 1

[delicate ginkgo]

crimson

[grand scaffold]

ok

[delicate ginkgo]

crimson is red

[grand scaffold]

so tf does that have to do with 4

[delicate ginkgo]

red dragonflight

then blue

[grand scaffold]

-_-

[delicate ginkgo]

green

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[delicate ginkgo]

5 seasons. im bad at coutning

red blue green yellow and black

ib4 its 6 and last one is infinate monkaHmm

and we were stuck in a timeloop all along

back to MoP

[tame fossil]

Hey guys new warrior here. My friend told me I don’t need to upgrade my honor gear to max rank because it doesn’t affect my stats. Is this true?

I feel like I’m just getting crushed in pvp

[fallen bridge]

you don't

[tame fossil]

Ok cool thank you

[grand scaffold]

the fury push fast af

idk why i tried playing arms lmao

[fallen bridge]

What talent do we give up when we go one of the throw abilities in a spear build typically

[unreal socket]

Okay maybe I should play fury

[rotund trellis]

grats man

[warm portal]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkkQIpVKJBAAAAkQkIQCQENKJJBHgiEhEAJRCAAAAAAAARKJHICA0QA

Hope I linked the right thing, its annoying to do on mobile

[limber relic]

really? XD im 2400 fury, if i go 300 more i get crims legends?

oh shit im #31 in fury lmao

wtf

what rank do i need for 0.1%?

[dark sparrow]

Man, i dropped about 600 cr from 2389 to 1851 in 2 days, AMA

[rotund trellis]

Guys any UI expert here?

[dark sparrow]

[rotund trellis]

I'm trying to work on something similar to venruki. namely the addon that displays icons OVER and ON THE LEFT of the standard party frames. I know gladiusex have party frames but I'd like to use blizzard's

do you know how to do it?

[limber relic]

Bigdebuff?

[rotund trellis]

don't know it, I'll try

can you also tell me whaat addons are in that screenshot?

[limber relic]

I use it and it puts an icon next to the healthbar above the players head

[rotund trellis]

I see gladiusex, but no omnibar for example

[limber relic]

No omnibar from qhat i see

Omnicc tho

[dark sparrow]

this is ability team tracker

[warm portal]

Nobody knows yet

[rotund trellis]

omnicc?

[limber relic]

Ah yes

Omnicc displays icon on nameplate

Like the kidney and priest pain supress

[rotund trellis]

so basically it shows when one of my party members is stunned correct?

[limber relic]

Yes or urself

Or the target

And puts a timer on it

Also puts in on the raid frames if im not misstaken

Or that might be bigdebuff

[limber relic]

Rip

[rotund trellis]

what about the enemy team? gladiusex comes with default option that are completely difeent, but I love venruki's de-cluttered interface. Is it just editing gladiusex parameters or is it a combination of addons? I'm talkis specifically about the enemy party section

[limber relic]

Id say its like top 3-5 or something..

[limber relic]

I can show mine

1s

[warm portal]

Top 5 are the only guaranteed titles right now. Because blizz ladder only shows top 5k players. But there's more than that, we just don't know how many more

[rotund trellis]

you life savior thanks

[limber relic]

this is how my gladius looks like rn

pretty standard i belive

and then to the left of every enemy is DR but it doesnt sho rn

the addon is gladius, not gladiusex

[rotund trellis]

very clean!

what target health bars addon are you using?

[limber relic]

threat plates

[rotund trellis]

ah same here good

no omnibar?

[limber relic]

only in arena with omnibar

[rotund trellis]

It's actually OmniCD. I found out based on the icons border. att doesn't have the black border, just a gray standard one

[limber relic]

ah

omnicc omnicd

samesame

xd

ah no

omnicc is the numbers

[rotund trellis]

I really really dig venruki since i'm a noob and having a simple, minimalistic ui helps me focus on the game

[limber relic]

i dont like having my health at the top corner :p

[rotund trellis]

you still have a reference in the party frames, but yeah I'm the same

[limber relic]

i have my part frames closer to the middle

[mellow spoke]

I just wanna say... Prot paladin lobbys are cancer. Thank you.

[rotund trellis]

Ok I got to a good point: OmniCd + BigDebuffs. Looking great

[sage raptor]

Beats any healer lobby by miles

[grand scaffold]

yeah top 5th fury warrior is a guy i play against frequently

hes pretty garbo

shouldnt have that hard a time overtaking him

i want top 10

so that crimson legend is in the bag

like whenever im against him i make him go 2-4 or 1-5

[limber relic]

mercey?

[grand scaffold]

nah

i play on NA

this guy called lieofa

hes not spectacular

[limber relic]

ahh nvm

[grand scaffold]

so im not stressed about getting crimson legend as fury i think its very doable just gonna take me not getting tilted

[mellow spoke]

Pls don't. It should be removed from options. Tanks pve only and gg.

[rotund trellis]

whi is bigdebuff showing a fear icon?

I'm an idiot i was in test mode

[sage raptor]

Lmaoooo no

[grand scaffold]

winstreaks

so fun

[rotund trellis]

fury?

[grand scaffold]

yaaaaaha

im much better at it

as arms i was struggling to get rating

fury is a breeeeeeze

[grand scaffold]

idk if you answered and i forgot

but did you hit 1800 yet?

[lean burrow]

Why are you pushing crimson legend now?

[grand scaffold]

because

im playing fury

XD

[lean burrow]

There's inflation enabled

[grand scaffold]

i like having screenshots of being rank X

makes me feel good

tbh

[lean burrow]

Screenshots

gl

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

already got 2k

with a disc priest trolling dh

[muted surge]

do you keep sks on cd?

i played 1 game now with it and it felt so bad

[grand scaffold]

no

you use it with cs

it half healths people

[muted surge]

mhm

so ms rend cs sks ms `?

or do i jsut keep rolling with the rend dot i alredy have

[grand scaffold]

no

2x op

2x rend

cs

sharpen ms

sks

[muted surge]

2x rend ?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

longer duration

by like 7 sec

[kindred sedge]

pretty sure once you got the rage just rend>cs>cds>sks Can hit sharpen after or before, doesn't matter.

[muted surge]

ohhh i stacks

i didnt know

[grand scaffold]

fury going nuts

destro still crazy tho

[muted surge]

fury > arms confirmed?

[grand scaffold]

for me yes

general consensus

no

i can just tell you for a fact

it took me hundreads of games to break 2k as arms

and 150 as fury

including start of season when i was rusty

this week

ive gone 37/54

pretty great winrate

arms winrate this week looking goofy as fuck

[muted surge]

but you also have way more expierence now

then when you started

[grand scaffold]

true

but idk

im just better at fury than i am arms

most people will not have the same results

the way i play is very aggressive thats why i like fury

you dont really need to play defensively to survive

[sage raptor]

whats that addon that hides minimap in arenas?

[grand scaffold]

didnt know there is one

i like having the minimap

just in case im in tolvir and look the wrong direction

😂

[sage raptor]

lmao

im trying to clean up my ui

[grand scaffold]

i'de leave minimap there if i were you

thats my opinion tho

[sage raptor]

yeah well I didnt ask for it 💅

[grand scaffold]

😂

lemme google it

theres an addon called hide minimap

check that one

[sage raptor]

getting lua errors in an arena is yummy

[flat tide]

Just put a post it note over the minimap

[sage raptor]

bro that is so smart

[flat tide]

What can I say, smartest warrior here

[sage raptor]

have my babies

[grand scaffold]

ayo

open the map

and fullsceen it

the minimap disapears

[sage raptor]

hey ndogo

sept on lego plz

:)

[grand scaffold]

huh

whats sept

september?

[limber relic]

ez climb

[icy bridge]

ngl

arms warrior pepehands

[grand scaffold]

sheeeesh

grats!

[limber relic]

tyty

[icy bridge]

nearly won a round on 1800 elo

[grand scaffold]

what does that even mean

[icy bridge]

casting stuff out of a spellbook

[limber relic]

been going 5-1 every lobby

i fucked up last round by going 2 much zugzug

[grand scaffold]

bro i am doing pretty great rn as fury

not a 2600 game

[limber relic]

or id go 6-0

[grand scaffold]

but its pretty good

grats anyways!

[limber relic]

nice! 😄

tyty

[grand scaffold]

you pushing crimson legend?

[limber relic]

idk honestly

just played for fun

been smashing

even with all caster lobbies

5-1 with fmage, destro and bm

[grand scaffold]

bro fury doesnt feel totally helpless into those lobbies

its quite nice

nice!

[limber relic]

but this is as arms

[grand scaffold]

oh ok

nah

as arms im flopping vs those lobbies

[limber relic]

i rekt them xd

[grand scaffold]

as fury im doing well into those lobbies tho

[limber relic]

top dmg all games with no effort

[grand scaffold]

nice!

[limber relic]

i reckon i can climb alot higher as fury ngl. afterall i got 2400 as fury with arms gear and 1 honor weapon xd

[grand scaffold]

nice!

i just want to be top 10 as fury

[limber relic]

glgl 😄

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[sage raptor]

more likje as furry

[main silo]

Does blur work the same as evasion? If we hit a DH from behind we can go through blur? I feel like tthey got 360 angle lol

[grand scaffold]

im not sure

[sage raptor]

blur is special

[grand scaffold]

interesting question tho

[limber relic]

i think it does

it does the same with evasion

[grand scaffold]

im not sure

[limber relic]

99% sure it does

atleast it does with evasion

[grand scaffold]

eh im not sure

[sage raptor]

ive heard from a lot of sources blur dodges from the back

[grand scaffold]

evasion you can hit from behind

now that im thinking about it

[limber relic]

u can

[sage raptor]

I feel like its true

[limber relic]

im sure of evasion

[grand scaffold]

i have missed from behind a blur

[grand scaffold]

same

but im not sure about blur

[limber relic]

fair

but blur is 50% dodge right?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but

[sage raptor]

"50%"

[hot solstice]

No…tried step kidney many times…doesn’t work

[grand scaffold]

its not actually that low

its much higher than 50%

more like 80

[limber relic]

rly?

[grand scaffold]

or 99

[sage raptor]

still bugged

but dh mains need all the help they can get

poor things

not a thought behind their eyes

[grand scaffold]

😂

yeah

the blindfold aint covereing much

[sage raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/reine-bald-reine-no-thoughts-gif-20761568

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-idk-hammer-nailed-gif-15254720

^dh's

[sage raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thoughts-no-thoughts-head-empty-head-empty-no-thoughts-stray-head-empty-stray-gif-26308099

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/стасдавыдов-stas-davidov-bucket-on-the-head-ведронаголове-gif-20193450

dh's

[sage raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/dibo-the-gift-dragon-looking-brain-cells-stupid-insult-gif-17640072

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

https://tenor.com/view/no-brain-loading-slow-gif-16361840

dhs when they need to use defensives

^

😂

[sage raptor]

when they blur air

lol

[grand scaffold]

bro

sometimes

i just hit them

and they blur

[grand scaffold]

😂

[limber relic]

spiderman 1

xddd

when they take ozcorp

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/glaives-warglaive-warglaives-illidan-black-temple-gif-25408703

dhs teleporting away from healers at the speed of light

^

[full quiver]

@wispy cedar

why are these all accurate

[grand scaffold]

😂

sup scooberz

[wispy cedar]

ndogo with the top tier memes

[grand scaffold]

😂

hru low

[full quiver]

lol

[wispy cedar]

lol indeed

[stuck moss]

where is the abbreviations at?

[grand scaffold]

which ones do you wanna know about?

[stuck moss]

just sks atm

[grand scaffold]

sks means skullsplitter

[inner skiff]

does it. I give up on Fury. I'm only at like 1300 and my team mates die before I can kill anything because everything gets healed to full every other global and even if I try to CC the healer inevitably the other DPS will choose that moment to try to kill the healer instead of a DPS. >.<

[grand scaffold]

almost at 2100

[full quiver]

Straight to 2.4

Zoooming

[grand scaffold]

facst

facts*

[hot solstice]

How am I supposed to push above 1800+ 2s if top healer in lfg is 1600?

[hollow ore]

you become social

[grand scaffold]

you push slowly

[sharp meteor]

u could probs get 2100 shuffle before u get 1800 2s via lfg

like why queue up and donate points to assa/discs

[hot solstice]

I am 2500 shuffle already

[sharp meteor]

then 3s or alts

[grand scaffold]

2100

and i dc'd for one of those rounds

wouldve maybe been 5-1

but that warrior was bad

i dc'd on the round he was on my team

was unlikely

[mint dagger]

can someone explain the diff between shat and wrecking throw

[grand scaffold]

shattering breaks immunities

[queen stag]

@mint dagger wrecking throw does huge damage into shield (warlock dark pact, cocoon, etc) , shattering throw removes immunities (paladin buble, ice block, blessing of protection)

[grand scaffold]

wrecking doesnt

[weak wedge]

What's your build ?

[grand scaffold]

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fastest push of my life

aha

2200

win+ratio

[hushed plank]

Hahaha good stuff you know you always liked Fury over Arms anyways Ndogo :)!

[grand scaffold]

yeah fr

😄

my r1 friend says im better at fury bc i enjoy it more

prob why im pushing fast

[weak wedge]

Ty will try for fun if I can find the time this weekend

[grand scaffold]

its a really fun build

[full quiver]

You on fire today lol

[grand scaffold]

😄

just cuz im playing fury

[dark sparrow]

I think I need to change my mindset back to “have fun” but after spiralling from 2389 to 1800 my sanity is down the drain

Nice thing about fury is that every day is a bleed day @grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

it happens bro

[grand scaffold]

yaaaaha

[dark sparrow]

I really need to level my rogue so I can just shiv some fools to let go of the anger when people die without pressing buttons I guess

[grand scaffold]

seems ive dc'd a round of solo shuffle

wish me luck

maybe im still alive

bro

whats wrong with some people

4-2 with a dc

[wooden grove]

Damn still running fury

[grand scaffold]

🙂

😎

[thick reef]

This is why you play Fury lads

Just embrace the fact you hate life

[grand scaffold]

[kind fog]

Currently doing 3s as fury with an enhancement ans the mongo melee dream is real

[muted surge]

can you trinket the duel thing from rogue ?

or whats the play to survive that

[full quiver]

no one can hold ndogo back

not even comcast

[grand scaffold]

😂

[lucid walrus]

trinket won’t get you out of duel but it’s generally when they’ll try to 1-bang you so you’re probably gonna press there anyway

[grand scaffold]

bruh

all i said was who to focus

-_-

like i didnt really think i was being offensive

🤣

[full quiver]

so rude

that guys account looks omega sus on check pvp lol

[sharp meteor]

Looks european.

[grand scaffold]

bro

i have never ever had someone tell me shutup for saying a very basic gameplan

[wispy cedar]

europeans do that

[rare sentinel]

so noob question getting a set bonus on pvp gear is just luck ?

[full quiver]

europeans suck tbh

[frank knoll]

Fury powwwwa

Ndogo back to his roots

I just did one on my PvE demo lock. I guess people don’t know to stop tyrant/NP because I went 6/0

[grand scaffold]

im getting tolled

trolled*

[hot solstice]

wtf...does anybody have problem with stance buff dissapear?

[grand scaffold]

went 1-5

teammates just flopped

[green anchor]

How good is the Infurious Helm's effect? Is it well worth getting?

[grand scaffold]

yes

very

[green anchor]

don't spam it otherwise after global you will remove it

[grand scaffold]

how

its a 3 sec cd

isnt it?

[hot solstice]

sometimes it just dissapear

hard to pay attention

[sharp meteor]

/cast !defensive stance or w/e

[grand scaffold]

yaaaaaaah boi

2300

just made an assa rogue

feral

[green anchor]

gg

[grand scaffold]

and sub rogue

all go 2-4

its a good ay

day*

[keen shuttle]

mad fun, im actually climbing today

ty for the build

[grand scaffold]

no problem broski

🙂

[steep cairn]

If you use the toggle macro it won’t ever disappear so you’ll at least just be in the wrong stance instead of nothing at all

[woeful solstice]

how the fuck

do i play against 3 wiz on blades edge

just 0-6'd a game

[latent hazel]

NA ladder

loll

[long vortex]

New to warrior and swapped from enhancment shaman. I like to play fury. I saw a warrior in my rbg group using the 2h polearm and 1h axe in offhand. Is this a play style normal?

[grand scaffold]

you reroll fury

and slap the shit out of them

[slender lion]

gloves and head are the same stats for tier?

oh no they aint

mb

[covert peak]

Hi. When do you guys use bitter immunity? Like must clicks for the removals i mean. 🙂

The emergency heal is ok, but in what situations would it be good aswell?

[sharp meteor]

remove amp weakness

[dark sparrow]

Sit under bridge a lot between your go’s , let your caster do his thing and come out when cds are up. When they start popping leap out and just sit back till your next go

Also need your team to kinda push up with you when your going in or you will just die in a cc lock

[spice hornet]

extremely broken how a lock can just put a perma amp curse on you all game

if you dont have a curse dispel

[dark sparrow]

Blades is just kinda aids cause you can’t really pillar

[dark sparrow]

Yea with mes WA package seeing that shit on my screen is just pain

You can bitter immunity it off but a good lock will just insta reapply anyway

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[grand scaffold]

the amp curse for 100% crit is fuckin dumb

[woeful solstice]

0-6'd two in a row

RIP my elite bracket

[grand scaffold]

you were 2400?

[woeful solstice]

yeah

2460

im 2200 now LOL

[grand scaffold]

thats rough

[dark sparrow]

Actual question, if you roar without the curse on but he curses you after, does that also make your bleed not able to crit anymore ?

[grand scaffold]

it happens tho

just know

[woeful solstice]

im tiltted

100% tilt

[grand scaffold]

i was 2763 as arms

and dropp 300 cr

[woeful solstice]

yeah i hopped on my alt

gonna just yolo spam games

[dark sparrow]

@woeful solstice cheer up, I went from 2386 to 1820

[woeful solstice]

[dark sparrow]

Will get it back next week but man I was to tilted, should’ve swapped to alt in hindsight lmao

Lobbies were also so bad, every lobby at least 1 Hunter and 1 lock, most times double Hunter lobbies

[latent hazel]

hunter lobbies are fine

they squishy

and playing disarm vs mm is giga

[woeful solstice]

bm tho

ruins unhinged build

[delicate ginkgo]

how?

[woeful solstice]

so bad

[dark sparrow]

Tilt, people dying without pressing buttons every game etc

[delicate ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-yikes-gif-15532766

[dark sparrow]

Also people can’t play around trap it seems, healers eating every trap and dps keep staying in open while healer is in cc chain

But brightside, I finally got ashes of al’ar while sitting in shuffle q

[rotund trellis]

nope, dipped to 1450 in shuffle after the open conq cap. Got to 1570 in 2s tho, steady climbing there

need some gear still, didn't grind at all this week, I've been busy at work

[grand scaffold]

dang

bro

try playing fury

i started at 1600

now well above 2300

in 1 day

[rotund trellis]

I miss the 2nd 2h

gotta get gloves, bracers, belt, neck first

do you have a reliable fury build?

[grand scaffold]

very

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[rotund trellis]

❤️ trying it tonight then thanks man

[grand scaffold]

🙂

np

[rotund trellis]

I found 2s much more useful to learn mechanics. We had a steady climb yesterday, +150

[grand scaffold]

thats great bro!

[rotund trellis]

shuffle is literally a random fiesta

[grand scaffold]

you got a good healer?

[grand scaffold]

i like solo shuffle because you cant be told you were carried

[rotund trellis]

yeah a guidmate

evoker/warrior

[grand scaffold]

nice!

[rotund trellis]

bhahah true

wjat kind of gems are you guys stacking starting this week

[grand scaffold]

for fury

haste vers

[rotund trellis]

I'm taling, with the storm-charged manipulator

[rotund trellis]

for arms that would be crit I guess

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[rotund trellis]

and you guys rocking the 4 pieces fo the set?

[grand scaffold]

yup

[rotund trellis]

gauntlets chest belt and legs?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

just not helmet

[rotund trellis]

gauntlets have mastery tho

we lose vers that way?

oh I see,

it has to be either or

[grand scaffold]

nah

you just want crafted helmet

[mystic barn]

u don’t need verse on every piece

you get way too much of it imo

[rotund trellis]

what do you suggest?

[hushed plank]

Hey Doggo when you switch specs is your MMR the same or does that change as well ?

[lean burrow]

lol

lmao even

don't do that

[rotund trellis]

btw I despise people leaving shuffles to increase rank

blizz should ban these people

it's just pathetic

[mystic barn]

doesn’t work like that anymore

They get a mmr and cr hit

[rotund trellis]

well people leave to not losa ranks then

[steel trout]

u get -150 mmr and -150 cr

u lose no matter what

[mystic barn]

ur not making sense

[rotund trellis]

so maybe they don't know?

I had 2 shuffles with the same people, and every time someone quits at game 5

or 4

[mystic barn]

sometimes people just don’t want to play it out

or just deranking if they’re doing good to not increase mmr or cr

[rotund trellis]

I see

[delicate ginkgo]

mud be streaming and he did not even tell us

[sage raptor]

he cares not for us

[barren crane]

It's in his discord

[ebon pivot]

Dang it Ndogo, I'm just getting used to arms, don't tempt me to go back to fury

[drifting jacinth]

dont play fury

[rotund trellis]

nerf DH for fucks sake

[nocturne snow]

this numbers hurts me

[rotund trellis]

what do you thinl? arms spear. Shall I go haste or crit or mastery?

[ebon pivot]

As far as I know for the spear, once you hit 10% haste just slap all the crit

[rotund trellis]

what about bleed?

what's the hast needed?

[frank knoll]

These FOTM disc rerolls I swear to god

[drifting jacinth]

that time of season

healers r turboshit rn

[frank knoll]

On my lock, on a double DK lobby. This guy can basically freecast, cause both of these DKs are chasing me around and he does fuck all

Then messages me and tells me to uninstall

[full quiver]

[drifting jacinth]

dark pact that bitch then coil em

slow em

[frank knoll]

Ohh I was on CD
When they do go him, he runs behind a pillar across the map and gets globaled

[drifting jacinth]

ur other dps should be doin dirty work on the healer

never listen to nobody in this game

always assume ppl are stupid

[frank knoll]

Yeah man idk. It was a shit lobby ti begin with

[drifting jacinth]

call them orphans

divorce babies

[frank knoll]

In return for his feedback, I offered to send him a video of me banging his mom

[drifting jacinth]

actually nvm u never know who reports u

[sage raptor]

Ask him about his secret Prot build

[onyx valve]

Lobby RNG is the real MMR

[drifting jacinth]

elo hell

[rotund trellis]

What are the website that you guys use most? is there anything like wor armory but for pvp?

[ebon pivot]

Yo not gonna lie, if blizz didn't remove glad stance I'd pvp prot

[sage raptor]

I think a lot would.

Prot has one of the best gameplay loops

[ebon pivot]

For bleed I don't know exactly, I try to keep haste and crit above 15% for bleeds

I miss when we could get 5 heroic leaps. Fc in BGs as prot and frigging frogger your way across the map

[rotund trellis]

and 10% for crit / spear?

[ebon pivot]

10% haste for spear.

Everything else crit

[spare hazel]

i see a lot of warriors using the polearm instead of the sword, is there any reason to take mast over crit?

[lean burrow]

yes

if you mained fury and rerolled arms

[spare hazel]

haha gotcha

thought maybe i was missing out on some secret

[sharp meteor]

some people just got it from their vault

[rotund trellis]

I think this. They got it from the vault and invested conquest in other pieces instead of paying 1850

[grand scaffold]

😂

[grand scaffold]

fastest push of my life

200 games and i got elite

pretty good imo

[ebon pivot]

niice

[grand scaffold]

🙂

[frank knoll]

Is fury the move now

[ebon pivot]

if i can hit 1800 on my main, I'll start grinding on a fury alt

[grand scaffold]

i mean

for me yes

im much better at it

avg person no

[frank knoll]

I’ve always been better at fury too

KO in the first round is how you win

[grand scaffold]

if you better at fury play it

took me over 1k games to get 2400 as arms

200 as fury

[severe basin]

Arms is big dam but it just dies so easy

[grand scaffold]

thats why i dont like it

you also have to play defensively

fury does dmg and heals

at the same time

[lean burrow]

holy fuck 1700 rounds on arms

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[lean burrow]

280 games

[grand scaffold]

arms is not my skillset

😂

[lean burrow]

with like 20 min queue

90+ hours

just queueing

[grand scaffold]

yeah probably

[severe basin]

That’s like a week of playing bro

[severe basin]

Yeah and it’s damage is pretty good

Might try it again

[lean burrow]

12 hours a day?

huh

[severe basin]

Why not?

I like fun

[lean burrow]

[grand scaffold]

wow

every game is winning then i get one 4-2

-48

disc priest was repeatedly throwing on my team

wasnt using pain sup

or dome

till on enemy team

[mystic barn]

sir that’s 2-4 not 4-2

[grand scaffold]

oops

misstype

[warped warren]

[spark oyster]

I’m fairly new to retail wow (way too much time on pservers) trying to figure out if arms or fury is my calling, do you have a basic fury build that you like/recommend/would be willing to share 🙂

[grand scaffold]

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i got 2400 with this in a single day

keep in mind i did start at 1600

but still was a massive push

if you new to the game probably play fury

its a lot less complicated

[spark oyster]

Gotcha. I’ll give it a go. I sure as hell feel new. I played for like a month of shadowlands. Enjoying this xpac more so I’m looking to get gud. Arms does feel fluid but I am having trouble recognizing enemy players CD’s. Experience and time.

Do you run speed enchants or favor leech since this is a sort of mitigate damage through self heals build?

[grand scaffold]

fury runs speed

[spark oyster]

Ty

[hollow ore]

I wish speed would reduce root durations

[steep inlet]

You shouldn’t recommend him Fury tbh. It’s crap and he will have a hard time

[mild thunder]

yea i dont see why a newer player would have an easier time with the worst melee in pvp

the stigma of arms being a "complex" spec is so overstated... most of the builds are built around a 2-button rotation

[steep inlet]

because arms has peel and protection to do

But yeah it’s a lot stronger than fury

Fury would make him rq

[mild thunder]

i mean, a good fury still peels and protects his teammates, it's just that most of the people that play fury aren't good

it still has a fair degree of defensive utility with disarm, intervene, rally

[slender lion]

Yeah arms is less buttons than fury imo

Actually less complex

[fickle forge]

SL fury still sit in people

[slender lion]

However. Survival as fury is higher. Or perceived as higher due too self healing. I dont think it is tho

[slender lion]

DF is out btw. Just to say

[mild thunder]

i think that was his point

[steep inlet]

What no

Arms is more buttons and complex than fury for sure haha

[slender lion]

Nah

[steep inlet]

?

[copper hare]

[mild thunder]

it objectively has more rotational buttons

fury is bt > bt > bt > ramp > repeat

[steep inlet]

pre banner pre bladestorm etc ?

and rotation

[copper hare]

early in the morning and you guys are already coping

[slender lion]

[mild thunder]

uhhh it's late at night for me, americano

[steep inlet]

First time I see a guy saying fury is more complex than arms

[slender lion]

I dont think either are very complex tbh

[steep inlet]

In mu life

[slender lion]

But what do I know

[mild thunder]

i run bleed build, so i'm high iq 🤓

[steep inlet]

Have you played arms in high rating vs RMP ?

Pré interv pré bladestorm pre banner

[slender lion]

Nah, hence why I said what do I know lol

[steep inlet]

X)

[mild thunder]

i intervened, bladestormed or bannered every kidney except for one against rmp earlier today... still lost

[slender lion]

Ive switched back too spear. I like both builds just depends what I wanna do

Whats rmp

[steep inlet]

Rogue mage Priest

[mild thunder]

retards, mongoloids, pansies

[steep inlet]

Also

[slender lion]

Thought tht. Just wanted too clarify

[slender lion]

Too this obv

[steep inlet]

I hate rogue and mages

Like all warriors should

[mild thunder]

it's so bad now with the damage that disc can do

[copper hare]

So I had a pretty serious phone call with hazzikostas, he said rogue nerfs might arrive 2025

not safe tho

[slender lion]

I dont mind rogues. But when they r there to sort you out while the other dps kills someone. I hate being cc locked lol

So bad

[slender lion]

My friend is gearing his disc. He's like 408 ilvl the now. What r they dishing out atm?

[steep inlet]

Rogue the fucking invisible coward backstabbing with daggers, and mage the robe user with full magic and CCs running everywhere.

Both are antithesis of Warrior

[mild thunder]

depends on the comp and matchup... if a disc is playing rmp they can dish out dps-level damage

[slender lion]

I hate mages yes. Bane of my life

[mild thunder]

but if they're playing a lower-cc comp they probably wont get the chance unless you have insane pressure

[slender lion]

My issue is our other dps is like sub 400 ilvl in pvp and just back with the game lol. He got fuxking trained last night

[mild thunder]

disc is just really burstly as well... can dish out ~100k in a few globals

[slender lion]

Regardless of what I done.

[mild thunder]

which is pretty nutty for a HEALER

[slender lion]

Yeah thats insane

[green fern]

what is the 'BiS' setup with gear? what bits of gear to for set and embelishments?

[mild thunder]

murlok.io

[green fern]

thank you. never heard of that before

how do i get the set pvp gear without catalyst?

[mild thunder]

you don't, you convert it via the catalyst

[green fern]

ahh i see.. okay ty

last question. sorry. does upgrading your pvp gear with honor make any difference to arena or BG? because it scales to 424 anyway

[mild thunder]

nope

[green fern]

thought as much. ty

[agile trench]

What do you think about kittycleave as fury? Is it viable?

[mild thunder]

most comps are "viable", but you'd have a hard time convincing a feral druid to queue fury kitty with you

kitty in general is pretty rare, and playing with a fury is just magnitudes worse

[agile trench]

Okay so who would be better partner for my war? My friend can play as disc/mw/hpal and we are looking for dps for our 3's

[mild thunder]

nothing is going to be ideal as fury, literally every comp will be 10x better as arms

but if you're deadset on fury, just pick something like arms/destro, arms/sp, arms/ele, arms/feral and and play fury

[agile trench]

Thanks mate

[drifting jacinth]

Arms destro is insane

Giga peel

[mint dagger]

For big DPS what's best rotation I've been using spear, warbreaker, sweeping, Sharpen then avatar. Should I use warbreaker before spear?

[grand scaffold]

yo