which is 99% of games
#pvp
mild thunder
topaz tulip
Do you use warbringer a lot? I've loved it but it's starting to feel like a crutch wasting utility
muted surge
and whats your cue to pop banner ?
mild thunder
there's almost always something more mandatory ahead of it
muted surge
i feel like i waste it a lot
im currently trying to use it when rogue pops and / or i see the lock / mage casting on my heal that cant line
but someone just gloables in and it has no impact
topaz tulip
Ha. I simmed it. -4k dps. What the fuck 
warm portal
Do you use warbringer a lot? I've loved it but it's starting to feel like a crut...
Warbringer always
BANG
mild thunder
and whats your cue to pop banner ?
depends on what you're with/against
anytime the enemy team is looking to setup a cc-chain
so if a hunter is stun > trapping, a rogue is blind > sapping etc
it can also be decent to just throw down in the opener of a meleefest
as long as it's not in a super easy spot to tab and kill
muted surge
i see, thanks :>
mild thunder
edward snowden reference... 
topaz tulip
Warbringer always
BANG
I know I don't want to give it up but I feel like i'm starting to need to. Too many close calls on cc because of exactly what gala is talking about, having close calls on kills that would have happened if I got mortal wound out of bs before sks, movement down but i'd have an extra charge if I could exe. All options for why I just barely missed that kill
mild thunder
warbringer is really, really nice into stuff that you're going to be charging at a lot, like hunters, locks etc
muted surge
sks 
mild thunder
but it's still a very low prio talent
it's also incredibly fun watching hunters turtle <10% and then sniping them with warbringer
muted surge
warbringer goes through turtle ?
mild thunder
yup
muted surge
disc nerfs are here
muted surge
So does sweeping strikes
does sweeping go through tranq like obliterate cleave from fdk?
mild thunder
that's neither a nerf nor is it remotely impactful for pvp
wheat jay
does sweeping go through tranq like obliterate cleave from fdk?
No idea if obliterate does
But sweeping does
muted surge
obli does according to mes
wheat jay
There's a pet and hunter
muted surge
i just never see any rdruids to test it :>
wheat jay
Hunter in turtle
You use your shit to sweep
Swept attacks go through turtle and damage hunter
muted surge
yes more knockbacks for heals
wheat jay
Balance is dogshit so id say its faire
Its a target dummy that does mediocre at best damage
muted surge
but those effects are so unfun to play against as a heal
topaz tulip
Bleeds already applied also ignore turtle
muted surge
every fucking range has a dispell protection
mild thunder
yes more knockbacks for heals
this stuff is lame af design
idk having gimmicks like that in the game just isnt fun imo
wheat jay
Would you rather it be an ability from them?
mild thunder
id rather boomy not exist 
muted surge
buff its damange
wheat jay
Knockback
mild thunder
they already have a knockback kek
wheat jay
Well
topaz tulip
id rather boomy not exist <:okayge:917646812519739433>
same tbh
wheat jay
That's another knockback xd
Everyone wishes for some class to cease to exist
Most wish for warr to be removed xD
mild thunder
i wish for every non-warrior class to cease to exist
topaz tulip
I hate warlocks as a class, but worst spec hands down goes to boomy
mild thunder
i think evoker was just a poor addition
topaz tulip
i wish for every non-warrior class to cease to exist
Nah shitrolling priests is the pleasure
topaz tulip
except fucking ele
Snagged some info from one on why they fucking hurt so much sometimes. It's honestly fucking dumb, but at least I know how to avoid it now
mild thunder
any good destro lock has conflagrate and shadowburn as their top dmg these days
wheat jay
Destro casts a lot, demo casts a lot
topaz tulip
and maybe i'll roll one to do it myself lol
mild thunder
aff casts
wheat jay
Affli is affli
warm portal
I know I don't want to give it up but I feel like i'm starting to need to. Too m...
I take it into pretty much everything just because the damage and root is insane. Only time I ever drop is maybe like 3 melee 1 caster and I need to peel my nuts off to keep the caster alive
mild thunder
demo casts, but they dont rely on it as heavily as most casters
sharp meteor
yes more knockbacks for heals
my poor healer
wheat jay
Still can stun it
muted surge
but i dont understand the lock anymore, so idk
wheat jay
So there's counterplay
Wheres counterplay to elemental dmg that's instant
At all times
topaz tulip
I take it into pretty much everything just because the damage and root is insane...
I'll keep that in mind, def something I've run into before
wheat jay
And instant % dmg channeled stun
wheat jay
And it does dmg to you
mild thunder
because game design
mild thunder
i dont think flame shock spread unless they're wasting big stuff on it
topaz tulip
At all times
It's not
mild thunder
because they multi-dot and have very high uptime
multi-dotting helps them funnel damage
muted surge
on high elo
warm portal
Haste based with near 100% uptime go brrrrrrrrrrttttt
muted surge
is it still top dmg?
wheat jay
Also, LoS, cast stormkeeper, profit?
jagged cedar
So I have 4pc but from m+ and raid pieces. Is it better to go full honor set at first and then wait for conquest gear to turn into tier ? Or should I leave the 4 pc on and the rest honor gear to start
mild thunder
depends on ilvl
jagged cedar
It’s like 390 and 400 ish. Nothing special
jagged cedar
Word. Thanks
mild thunder
dude
why does the transmog channel
actually have the ugliest fucking mogs in the game
sharp meteor
actually have the ugliest fucking mogs in the game
everybody i ever met who devotes time to mog is obessed with using non-sets
which means trying to pair some tbc ass piece with like a legion one
and it just looks like
an npc some intern whipped up in 20 seconds
mild thunder
the thing is, non-matching sets are almost always the best
but these people are fucking blind
sharp meteor
like take a set u like, change char to match it, matching wep, maybe swap out 1 piece
ok ur good
mild thunder
and match shit that just shouldnt
topaz tulip
depends on ilvl
What if I were to swap just the legs for 402?
mild thunder
then you would have 1pc
and despite finding the one piece, you would not get a set bonus
mild thunder
for 4pc, eh
idk its not super impactful
but losing ilvl on one piece isnt a big deal either
topaz tulip
522 vers/264 haste vs 501 haste/201 vers
muted surge
I hardly see anything that’s better than just a full set
Alone that older items have shit resolution
drifting jacinth
any good destro lock has conflagrate and shadowburn as their top dmg these days
portal op af too
rift*
topaz tulip
basically would lose 2% verse for a gain of 1% haste. feel like 5% damage increase is worth that much yeah?
mild thunder
I hardly see anything that’s better than just a full set
my kratos mog
muted surge
Pls don’t post the dwarf that gets posted every second day
muted surge
I don’t even know if it’s the same person
drifting jacinth
arms tier this xpac is like last xpac
muted surge
Or if everyone tries the same mog
drifting jacinth
just more dam
mild thunder
I don’t even know if it’s the same person
i'll put mine in the transmog channel
drifting jacinth
fury tier in SL actually changed the specs playstyle
mild thunder
they've already specified that this season's tier bonuses are intentionally mild so that it didnt fw talent tuning
muted surge
p much shit without it
Like arms now 
topaz tulip
And yet talent tuning is still kinda shit
drifting jacinth
I miss gavel jaithys
muted surge
Without the Tier some classes would be dumpster tier
Including arms in pve
Think they still went over board with the sets
topaz tulip
with the tier one spec is dumpster tier
mild thunder
arms tier is a nothingburger in pve wym
drifting jacinth
just slightly more dam
mild thunder
we're good in pve now because of the talent changes, nothing to do with tier set
topaz tulip
I meant fury
muted surge
The tier gives us 18? % dmg
drifting jacinth
fury's tier is a disgrace
muted surge
While others got like 5-10
mild thunder
i don't think that's correct
drifting jacinth
I legit question how much they playtest the spec
mild thunder
The tier gives us 18? % dmg
tribal nimbus
that feeling when a healer declines a ss match
mild thunder
survival's tier set is also exclusive to single-target
and how many raid fights are exclusively single-target? one
muted surge
Brood
drifting jacinth
ha
muted surge
Eranog depending on comp
drifting jacinth
Id say sennarth is the only other one
muted surge
Serrath only st matters
mild thunder
some guy in #transmog literally just posted a set right after mine that reuses half my set
muted surge
Except sweeping :>
mild thunder
it was not just the chest
it was the shirt, chest, bracers and belt
he also copied my hidden helmet smh
drifting jacinth
if yo mog aint shirtless it aint shit
topaz tulip
and how many raid fights are exclusively single-target? one
I mean eranog is basically st. Depending on how your raid does the fight you can basically do brood st whole time. terros. Sennarth cuz who gives a shit about the baby spiders. Dathea st is fine considering how many classes have built in cleave anyway. Add intermissions on kurog can also be treated as st if you'd get more dam out of it than two. So really, it's just one fight that CAN'T use a st exclusive build, cuz raz has too many minions
gentle horizon
why cant my lv50s que for timewalking? :/
topaz tulip
why cant my lv50s que for timewalking? :/
Are you still in chromie time?
drifting jacinth
Cutting Edge looks ez to get rn
rotund trellis
I get the same error, apparently it's a bug
topaz tulip
wtf : /
are you suprised? Glaive build is literally the thing they do rn
Like 8 talents specifically for glaives
rotund trellis
really??
sharp meteor
people look at a 1m dmg hit and ask if it's real
drifting jacinth
yall know if mythic crossrealm works rn?
topaz tulip
really??
Probably exaggerating but yeah. Specifically I know there's one to double the number of glaives thrown, then two to increase their damage, one that increases the damage all abilities do to someone hit by a glaive, and one to turn all damage elements to chaos
hollow ore
Demon from passive takes 1m from glaive
Thus appearing overstated
Dont spread misinformation
topaz tulip
Oh i took the screenshot as damage overall
I'm not spreading misinformation? Go read the talents, it's definitely the build they use
stark gulch
so do the pvp tier sets not always get versatility? got pvp gauntlets that are tier in vault but no vers
topaz tulip
the pvp tier is the pve stats just scales to 424
stark gulch
ahhhh gotcha. well. set bonus still great but no vers oh well
spice hornet
something changed where their glaive demon dmg is now being tracked
earnest wharf
for sockets, we go Vers/crit, or Vers/stam?
spice hornet
only mained warr all these years, leveled a destro and get 2500 in shuffle 1 day /played lol spec is dumb
drifting jacinth
stam dont do dam
earnest wharf
cool, going vers/crit then lol
frank knoll
There’s Destros who’ve got years played and can’t do that cause “warrior OP :’(“
rotund trellis
I have a newfound hate for lemental shamans
"newfound" I mean I hated them already from SS, but in world pvp they're jut disgusting
spice hornet
yeah ele was giving me depression on my warr
frank knoll
They are one of those that will just randomly kill you
hazy isle
casters told me destro is still bad tho
i think i hate frost mage the most out of all of them
drifting jacinth
destro definitely aint bad
frank knoll
Destro is giga
drifting jacinth
Destro's got like 3 schools of magic
frank knoll
Well two
Can’t get kicked on chaos
Ur locked out of everything if u do
Well, casters complain about melee, melee complains about casters, everyone hates hunters. That’s how I know PvP is balanced 🙂
sleek vine
hi all, Recommended Haste % for Arms? Im sitting Crit 24%, Haste 12% vers 26%. Also should i drop some versa for more crit?
spice hornet
my bnet is just perma broken
0 friends list
that form of communication is dead to me
hazy isle
no one wants to q, every 1 shuffling
sharp meteor
i mean no reason to q now for most peeps
glad is rly hard and everything else is free in shuff
quick carbon
feelsgood to see roar take over boys
sharp meteor
does it tho lmao
spice hornet
I feel like people go roar when they’re just tired of playing/dealing with spear
Just further into zug mode with roar
hazy isle
spear is prob better tho in 3s no?
quick carbon
i think spears still good
its prob rlly comp dependant
like vs rmx or ww u prob go spear
but alot of warriors on ladder r roar rn
quick carbon
i wonder if it means
blunt inst
is shit now too
cuz u prob just go waarbreaker
for max aoe bleed
mild thunder
i wonder if it means
dont think it would impact that at all
unless you're desperate for pad
mild thunder
interesting
hazy isle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047705042540568626/1075237235030491316...
nice
sharp meteor
idk who these gamer dads are who buy duelist 3s
i see them every season
most of the ones who try to buy glad have theirs removed too
bright stream
most of the ones who try to buy glad have theirs removed too <:keks:936231610850...
it's not unusual to speak to people that talk about paying to play with a specific partner in my experience
quick carbon
more fun than spear
bright stream
I've known multiple 'end of season' glads/duelists that dropped 1+mil to play with someone for an afternoon
or two
drifting jacinth
1m is chump change
bright stream
2100-2200 3s right now is actually like
paints a kinda interesting landscape for 3s rewards vs SSrewards in the future
bright stream
1m is chump change
eh I mean it depends on what you're doing in the game, 1mil is like, enough to do whatever you want with for an expac, or buy most things immediately at launch for a single character - it's not a small amount of gold for playing with someone you know for ~5-8 hours
sharp meteor
nah most people playing with peeps who only
play for money
i love whispering and asking how long the ban was
when their mount was removed from their collection
and if they got a refund
drifting jacinth
1mil is pretty hard to make if you dont have 2 mil
sharp meteor
i made like 2.2m in a week just selling sl leggos a few weeks ago
with like 50k starter gold
drifting jacinth
fuck I need to hop on that shit
bright stream
hurts 2v2 and 3v3 too much if 2400 shuffle is literally
hard to say really - having hit 2400 on a few specs this season, at times it's felt both harder and easier than similar ratings in dedicated 3s from SL
drifting jacinth
Im a top g blacksmith
bright stream
but that's probably a combination of things
sharp meteor
kind of lost interest cos everybody undercuts massively now
profit margins in shambles
bright stream
and also worth noting that its gonna get easier as the season moves forward
drifting jacinth
yea undercutting is the dumbest fucking thing ever with the new system
both parties lose
bright stream
like 2400 on DH in the first few weeks? absolutely free, RN as a spec like - I dunno spriest? gonna be pretty similar I think
the biggest dif I think is absolutely just being able to play without having to LFG boss and find people that you gel with/aren't massive ego lords
drifting jacinth
the best specs to play are the A tier specs
bright stream
so you got a lot of people gatekept by LFG who can suddenly get more done
and people parrot the stupid shit that SS doesn't require coordination, or that it is all Zug, but that's not really true at all. It's just much harder to coordinate precisely, and as people play it more - addons/knowledge on how to do that will improve
sharp meteor
was gearing my alt and just
walking at somebody and pressed 123 to
2400 shuffle
felt like actually 1700 or something
more of an inflated meme than unchained
will be cool to see people pushing titles tho
simple rock
shuff is a big meme for serious players yea but kinda saved the game in terms of participation
now they just have to incentivize 2s and 3s somehow
drifting jacinth
even if unchained was a meme the amount of people that have it is less than 1%
simple rock
1% of the whole playerbase?
drifting jacinth
yea
simple rock
that's a fuck ton lol
drifting jacinth
nobody fuckin pvps lol
simple rock
I read something like less than 30% has challenger
of the active playerbase
we are a minigame boys
drifting jacinth
who tf would want to learn all of their class abilities
let alone other classes
also takes time away from pve
jagged cedar
Is endless ashran a good farm for honor ?
jagged cedar
epic bgs are loaded in general
What is the faster way ?
mild thunder
whats the max number of letters for a name
earnest wharf
if you also need some conquest at all, rbg's is a better ratio of time spent to resources earned honor + conquest
queen shoal
is rend used in pvp? does it do good dmg? or only dot for rogue
mild thunder
is rend used in pvp? does it do good dmg? or only dot for rogue
check pins
queen shoal
ty sire
sage raptor
Give arms rebound
mild thunder
gotta level my 3rd warrior soon - Noamchompsky
boreal veldt
3 warriors all arms
boreal veldt
mild thunder
Gnomechomsky or Noamchompsky
boreal veldt
I mean it's gotta be Gnome if you can
drifting jacinth
gnome classic model > retail
sharp meteor
both gnomes suck
drifting jacinth
yea but classic gnomes make playing like a shithead fun
they even got the shit eating grin
sage raptor
Wish I could punt them
drifting jacinth
dying to a gnome warrants seppuku
steel trout
inflation kicking in this week?
drifting jacinth
more like creeping in
steel trout
feel like its still gonna be quite hard season for glad
stark agate
Gnome warrior shouts are earrape I despise them
ebon pivot
so I'm dumb and too outta the loop arena wise, what do they mean by the inflation thing?
steel trout
ur mmr gets inflated by 20 each week from now
ebon pivot
woof
steel trout
but i mean realistically how much of the season is left, its gonna be like 100-200? mmr in total
ebon pivot
yeah
ebon pivot
starting to feel a good groove from sks build
hopefully that means i can keep on the up and get 1800 before season end lol
full quiver
Well apparently if everyone played 3s and not shuffle we would all be glad
Holinka said same inflation is in both game types
Seems sus
mild venture
No it makes a ton of sense, MMR requires a larger pool to have higher ratings. The higher the highest rating, the more players there are.
The reason it seems so much higher is that the numbers in Arena were very small before. 2400 in a pool of 1000 vs 3400 in a pool of 100,000. (not saying the difference was ^2, just exampling)
For Sharpen Blade is it possible to tell the difference between MS with and without on a target? Wondering for making a WA to show when Sharpen is on a target if I need to track my buff use, or if I can track it on the target?
Does Sweeping Strikes with Sharpen Blade hit one or more targets?
stable siren
question fellow pvp gamers, how stinky would runing tclap with the rend build be?
drifting jacinth
I just put Sharpen on my MS macro
steel trout
For Sharpen Blade is it possible to tell the difference between MS with and with...
yes u can sweeping strikes sharpen
mild venture
I just put Sharpen on my MS macro
I'm trying to figure out maybe a WA to say in instance when Sharpen is on a target, might maybe, low probability get someone to focus a target that can die.
simple rock
haha ferals are still doing disgusting dmg if they can cleave
their demise was greatly exaggerated
mild thunder
no one that is actually good at feral and wasnt just a fotm player thought feral was going to be bad
they still have very, very good ST and cleave, high mobility, good cc, lots of stuns, good switch potential, decently tanky etc
simple rock
played a shuff at 3k mmr where the feral was doing pre nerf lvls of dmg it was insane
kept saying we should hit the feral more to reduce pressure but no one listened
twilit patio
i havent seeen anything other than mage/lock/x (hunter/shadow/another lock) in 15 gamese
at 2.4
super fun variety
mild thunder
shuffle?
twilit patio
yeah
and its not the same ppl either
thats what so insane
jusut stuffs the single warrior in basically unwinnable lobbies, it happens sometimes ofc buut litreally 15x in a row across both my warriors
mild thunder
elo hell 
twilit patio
lmao more like lobby hell
sad to say out loud that i acutally miss the ww's and ass rogues rn
inner sigil
fury warr should beat dks without Unholy aura and Commander of the Dead
right?
like no matter wut
inner sigil
fury warr should beat dks without Unholy aura and Commander of the Dead
@stable siren ??
stable siren
/shrug
muted surge
just got put with a player with 0 cr at 1800 after a 30 min qu
If queue takes longer than 20 mins I just leave, always means scuffed lobby
stable siren
Mhn maybe worth thinking i got qued into a 2k loby and got dicked
it just sucks facing someone 200 cr above my skill level, its not fair for the bastards on my team or for me
starting the week 1-5 so the climb gunna be real
Hitting minute 22 debaiting leaving que or seeing what kinda clown fiesta i int in
topaz tulip
I know it's just the normal struggle of being a war, but the last couple of days I've really been struggling in lobbies full of casters. Maybe there's an udk. Maybe there's a survival. But with 4 or 5/6 people throwing spells to blow me up I'm caving even with every protection possible. I bounce, hit a wall, bounce, hit a wall, get rooted for 5 years, then die. What do yall do to get through this (besides die)?
damn, q popped quick
muted surge
it just sucks facing someone 200 cr above my skill level, its not fair for the b...
Tbf cr doesn’t mean shit
But ye, just leave :>
stable siren
2 be fair im dogshit ;3
slender lion
I know it's just the normal struggle of being a war, but the last couple of days...
I had lock/feral/ele/destro last night. Only won 1 against 2 casters. Came out 3-0 since I won every one with one of the melee
stable siren
ive been hard sitting d stance and trying 2 kite on burst or on cc on my healer
frank knoll
Dagger SMF BiS?
topaz tulip
ive been hard sitting d stance and trying 2 kite on burst or on cc on my healer
So basically, play like prot when they're attacking someone else and run when they attack you?
stable siren
kinda, we really wanna disrupt enemy burst when its on our allies and pull enemies 2 our side of the map
but yeah double casters deff wanna pick the least mobile target and sit
live the zug zug life and tunnel a healer if u have 2 and pray that the 2 other ranged our 2 busy loading ur ass up like its vallentines day 2 not throw cc on the healer
topaz tulip
I had lock/feral/ele/destro last night. Only won 1 against 2 casters. Came out 3...
Destro is in almost every one of my games this week, ele in every other. Really starting to realize i'm not good enough for this choke. Especially since, even if I manage to save myself from their burst, I can't save everyone else and i"m always realizing too late that I need an intercept
steel trout
Leap is ur def cd vs casters
frank knoll
We need over watch back
stable siren
yeah against casters your lackluster mobility is your best bet, need 2 line as much burst as u can and make sure ur not getting dragged beind los and blown up
topaz tulip
Would be nice now
Honestly is a pretty perfect answer
steel trout
Have op talents sure would be nice
slender lion
Destro is in almost every one of my games this week, ele in every other. Really ...
Either one on their own is fine imo
topaz tulip
live the zug zug life and tunnel a healer if u have 2 and pray that the 2 other ...
magically when I zug zug healer I can't get the last 10% every time before other dps dies. Every time
frank knoll
Well when ur facing OP casters every game I want a way to keep my team alive and a defensive besides “just line it bro”
steel trout
Better go destro
steel trout
If u train healer vs double caster u will lose unless u can kill healer in opener
Especially on low cr
muted surge
Boomy seems squishy and loses a lot of pressure when forced into bear
slender lion
Tbf tho vs ele/destro. Your fucked
steel trout
Yea boomie dies
frank knoll
If they suck yeah
slender lion
You can focus one. But the other then free casts and they can both hit very fucking hard
frank knoll
Sometimes I guess you just gotta accept that you’re gonna be a really shitty lobby
slender lion
N if the focus gets away from you and crits your dead
slender lion
Sometimes I guess you just gotta accept that you’re gonna be a really shitty lob...
Yes
steel trout
U cant stop ele dam anyway
topaz tulip
If u train healer vs double caster u will lose unless u can kill healer in opene...
Ele/destro I tend to go destro just to keep them from casting, but you have to swap ele every time heroism is up or you'll just get shredded by thunderstrike
steel trout
Kill skyfury
sharp meteor
Ele/destro I tend to go destro just to keep them from casting, but you have to s...
The what now
muted surge
Play bounding reflect or whatever it’s called to oneshot with 200k earthshock
Ez win
sharp meteor
It's prime wave skyfury
steel trout
sharp meteor
U cant stop ele dam anyway
ya they just do 50k dps entire game
actually suffering if u have any stacking pets
topaz tulip
But like, every destro comes with either a devoker or frost mage. Every ele has druids peeling for them. And most of the ele have a rog too. It seems like all the rotating should make it easier, but then i just get blown or watch rog get blown later
steel trout
Lavalavalava
topaz tulip
Play bounding reflect or whatever it’s called to oneshot with 200k earthshock
rebound?
topaz tulip
if it just reflected for all 5 seconds maybe not so shit
topaz tulip
oop
high star
vault has no upgrades this week
topaz tulip
right, ele is all shock shit enh is all the strikes. Different 1min cd but same effect. Stormkeeper empowerment still shredding every 60. Except I think it has charges? seems up mroe often sometimes
high star
i take the tokens and slam a socket on something ya?
agile aspen
doesnt matter whats in vault you should take socket
limber relic
doesnt matter whats in vault you should take socket
Been taking socket for 4 weeks now D:
agile aspen
correct decision if you were waiting to push
limber relic
Yeah and ive been lucky with vault first 4 weeks except first week
Got chest+legs+shoulders week 2, 3, 4 all tier set. By then i was almost full epic geared with combination of wpvp gear and conq gear
And the crafted gear
Did u guys read the blue post about inflation in arena?🤔
sharp meteor
ye 📈
agile aspen
📈
📈
📈
limber relic
So no real inflation this season im guessing?
drifting jacinth
if u get to 2.1k before 10.7 you'll get glad
mild thunder
10.7 has nothing to do with inflation
drifting jacinth
timeframe
mild thunder
muted surge
I didn’t know that inflation was actually a thing
muted surge
Thanks Obama
mild thunder
blame ukraine
topaz tulip
Did u guys read the blue post about inflation in arena?🤔
Makes me feel like if I don't get r1 until end of season it means I only got it because pity points 
Not that I think it's a bad thing. Just personal opinion of self
drifting jacinth
always aim higher
high star
still cant use the socket thing on my neck reee
anyone know a fix for this? putting on action bars didnt do shit
pearl bane
buy a new neck
high star
is that really the only way lol
muted surge
Yea
high star
sheesh ok i guess i can buy conq medallion next week lmao
pearl bane
conq uncapped anyway
mild thunder
still cant use the socket thing on my neck reee
what's the issue?
just buy a tiered medallion setting from ah
high star
cant use it on my crit neck
was able to socket my mastery neck i got like first week of DF from vault but
for some reason I can't use the enchant on my crit neck?
mild thunder
what's the error message?
pearl bane
nah there were bugs but u just need to rebuy
high star
ok word that makes sense i guess
i mean not really
but makes sense why i cant socket XD
topaz tulip
always aim higher
Obvi. Glad is the goal. But I like to treat goals like ladders so I can feel accomplished along the way. As of now, I'm hard stuck at c2, and I just want my transmog.
sage raptor
Why does the female have a bulge? >.>
mild thunder
double trouble
steel trout
this 2.6 rating inflation per day got me hard 😈
craggy meteor
Is there a limit on the number of sockets you can add to an item through tokens of merit?
shut plover
that item cannot be modified
I had this on mine 2 weeks ago, today i could finally socket it after sending like 3 bugreports
steep inlet
this 2.6 rating inflation per day got me hard 😈
Have you seen the blue post on inflation ?
mild thunder
its daily increase not weekly
where does it say that?
mild thunder
just confused where it specifies that it's daily
mild thunder
show receipts
shy aurora
Guys if i get a neck in vault that had a gem slot, can i then add 3 more? Like you usually can
steel trout
Guys if i get a neck in vault that had a gem slot, can i then add 3 more? Like y...
no
steel trout
show receipts
i cant find the post but it was a interview time ago
steel trout
outcome is the same eitherway
true grove
is there an addon helping with spell reflect? I struggle sometimes with understanding if I'm the target of a spell that I would like to reflect
like something that flashes if X,Y,Z spell is being cast by any arena player with myself as the target
(might be even just a weakaura)
drifting jacinth
prolly weakaura
drifting jacinth
yea then u get double conflagged right after
topaz tulip
Is full build just all the glad slots less boots/helm, or do you still try to prioritize stats by keeping a db piece or two?
drifting jacinth
doubt you'd notice the difference between the two tbh
topaz tulip
fair
obtuse coral
i may have dropped 200 points already this week
quasi rock
what am i missing here lmao am i just hard r or what
had the same issue, got fixed today i believe
obtuse coral
time to grind out a haste set so i can try crit spear vs haste bleed
muted surge
ehm they said it a while ago that inflation is a daily thing
Okay then I don’t understand how the inflation works
drifting jacinth
20 divided by 7 daily increase
shy aurora
Whats the fastest way to complete the catalyst group quest?
inner skiff
What's this inflation y'all are talking about?
inner skiff
huh.... so your MMR goes up by 20 per week even without you doing anything? That seems.... backwards.
drifting jacinth
Gets us closer to glad bruther
inner skiff
yeah. Especially my ass playing Fury and being bad. XD I'll take the help. Just confused. XD
gusty wing
Originally it was 34 but blizzard deemed it too high, people would raise rating at a sonic rate
drifting jacinth
Wouldn’t mind that
wheat jay
And now its 20 and people dont raise rating at all 2 months into expansion xD
Or is it 3 now?
drifting jacinth
I’d say 50
drifting jacinth
Better get to 2.1k quick
wheat jay
Haha
gusty wing
CR is a mess this season
2400 is a joke for transmog etc but 2400cr for 3v3 is insanely hard for the mount
drifting jacinth
Mfs be havin downfalls in cr
gusty wing
best season ever for transmog, worse season for mount
limber relic
https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527
Bruh, we were talking about it just above mr 2k peak
inner skiff
man. Doing solo shuffle and going 3/3 because there's a rogue who goes squish and gets deleted 6 times back to back no matter who's team he's on. +8 rating. What do you even do there? lol
mild thunder
Bruh, we were talking about it just above mr 2k peak
muted surge
Compensate for their weakness by displaying exceptional skill
inner skiff
We'd have had a better chance of winning if they just stayed in stealth until something was sub 20% for execute range. lmao
limber relic
man. Doing solo shuffle and going 3/3 because there's a rogue who goes squish an...
Rip. I was thinkinh of doin solo shuffle again but i always promise myself never to touch it again
Its such a shitshow
inner skiff
Really is. But when it's 5:30 am and I've only got like 30 minutes, I can get 2-3 of them in while everyone I know is asleep.
also helps me learn what's scary etc given I'm still fairly new to pvp.
limber relic
Yeah i wna Q sometimes when ive got nothing else to do but i end up promising myself never to do it again😂
inner skiff
XD
leaden lake
I keep doing that just because I want the mog and have nobody to play with
and it's the first season ever when I do pvp
inner skiff
I've done some pvp in the past. but not for years. And not as a warrior. So it only helps in passing.
limber relic
Ive got my 50 wins so i really dont need to do more and got nothing to lose but ive never wanted punch my monitor more than when i play a solo shuffle
😂
inner skiff
I haven't lost rating yet, I just keep going 3/3 and getting like, +8. so it's taking me forever to get anywhere.
leaden lake
so it's either someone gets melted within 10 seconds with me having 700-800k dmg when others have 100 or it's a drag and we usually lose
unless we survive until next burst window
true grove
Eventually you should be experienced enough to counter the weaker players and win even if they are with you
The better heal, the worst dps and you as a good dps should be able to win
leaden lake
yeah, I rarely die myself
and whenever I see someone getting focused I try to use intervene on them
or shout if off cd
shy aurora
Just hit 2100 in soloq 305 rounds played
scarlet barn
sage raptor
The average rating is lower than people expect
limber relic
Just hit 2100 in soloq 305 rounds played
Gzz
elfin surge
@spice hornet we good?
jagged cedar
do you have to be any good to win solo shuffle for the full mog lol
or can you skate by
lol
muted surge
Does full mog include the weapons?
jagged cedar
nah just the armor
elfin surge
do you have to be any good to win solo shuffle for the full mog lol
define good
jagged cedar
define good
Idk. Mid lol. Last time I played pvp was s2 of SL and I was 1800
muted surge
It’s just rng
jagged cedar
Like that was my absolute cap
elfin surge
Idk. Mid lol. Last time I played pvp was s2 of SL and I was 1800
Should be able to grind 1800 again then. SS ratings are pretty inflated
muted surge
Ss rating is actually enjoyable to grind compared to 3s
elfin surge
kappa
muted surge
Hey, I rather see +-60 than +-10
elfin surge
shy aurora
Only 300 more to go❤️
Letsgooo
yeh gonna try
limber relic
Ss rating is actually enjoyable to grind compared to 3s
Huge cap
warm portal
do you have to be any good to win solo shuffle for the full mog lol
You can be full blown retarded and hit 1800 in the shuff. You got this king, get that mog
jagged cedar
Word fuc ya
jagged cedar
You can be full blown retarded and hit 1800 in the shuff. You got this king, get...
Needed this
limber relic
Critting 70-80k with OP is kek
true grove
what do you think is a better upgrade: weapon or chest+pants?
latent hazel
shuff rating is giga inflated
muted surge
You mean shuff rating is giga fun
agile trench
What do you advice for fury? Sword and polearm or 2x sword?
limber relic
what do you think is a better upgrade: weapon or chest+pants?
Weapon always
vestal quail
What do you advice for fury? Sword and polearm or 2x sword?
Prob 2x conq polearm for mastery
agile trench
Thanks
kind fog
I have a question about racials, I know it only matters to the top 1% of players with the highest rating but… I main an orc warrior for the stun reduction and the blood fury but was actually thinking about blood elf and arcane torrent purge.
Anyone who transitioned for one race to another or viceversa and noticed any improvement in their quality of life/playstyle?
obtuse coral
i play nelf because they're hot :)
kind fog
A valid point!
elfin surge
I have a question about racials, I know it only matters to the top 1% of player...
Dark iron, Dwarf and Gnome are the best. All the others are pretty much equally useless, so play what you want.
elfin surge
What do you advice for fury? Sword and polearm or 2x sword?
go arms 
warm portal
I have a question about racials, I know it only matters to the top 1% of player...
Play what you want. Some are 'better' but the power difference in racials doesn't feel as extreme as it was in the past
inner skiff
Dark iron, Dwarf and Gnome are the best. All the others are pretty much equally ...
<.< I like the tauren AOE stun for Fury. And the extra HP is nice since it means extra healing.
elfin surge
<.< I like the tauren AOE stun for Fury. And the extra HP is nice since it means...
yea im only going Tauren when this becomes available.
inner skiff
LOL.
torpid bolt
Why blood elf it's good, i have it and was thinking to swap for Orc
inner skiff
I'm not sure if I'd go back to arms for that, or just want to swing TWO tree trunks.
torpid bolt
Arms is still performing better than fury?
elfin surge
Arms is still performing better than fury?
Yes, its not even a question. Fury is the absolute worst melee in the game rn.
inner skiff
Arms has better burst, better heal cut, and survives into dampening better.
and better cleave.
I just play Fury because Zug Zug and it makes my soul happy.
torpid bolt
Ok sure, but why is Arcane Torrent good , i never use it in pvp
full quiver
Yes, its not even a question. Fury is the absolute worst melee in the game rn.
???
Uhdk worse
Buff dk
warm portal
Ok sure, but why is Arcane Torrent good , i never use it in pvp
Dispel???
torpid bolt
Lol dispel , I'm so old tough it was justo silence
What it can dispel , can dispel thunderous Roar?
Legit noob question
elfin surge
Blood elf is an aoe magic dispel, purge. @torpid bolt
Only real good use is to try to purge a bop.
torpid bolt
So it's rng, dont sound that good now
elfin surge
So it's rng, dont sound that good now
its pretty bad
warm portal
Its pretty dece at ripping off bops since dispel fodder from a hpal is basically just glimmer
Can prob get lucky every now and then and rip an altar off a mage too
cerulean pecan
Lol dispel , I'm so old tough it was justo silence
For the longest this xpac I kept trying to use arcane torrent and a silence and it wasn't working. Was passing me off, until I read that it now doesn't silence but dispels lol
final pebble
blademaster torment or warlords torment?
elfin surge
Solo Shuffle 🤡
keen shuttle
Imagine getting this upset over a video game
twilit ridge
Solo Shuffle 🤡
ur nothing without necro banner buddy
tbh mud shoulda just linked his stream lmao that would have been
quick carbon
they should remove double time
Then put warbringer in general talent tree in its place and make it either 12s cd charge
Or charge stun
B)
shy aurora
Solo Shuffle 🤡
This should be a easy ban
late nacelle
warm portal
blademaster torment or warlords torment?
Matchup dependant. If you want to camp 1 talent and never swap go warlords
frank knoll
Solo Shuffle 🤡
Average Catholic gamer
frank knoll
Yes, its not even a question. Fury is the absolute worst melee in the game rn.
Outlaw is worse
spare basalt
any solid guides for learning arms warrior ?
ive been watching a few but they seem to differ
elfin surge
Outlaw is worse
outlaw isnt great but its not bad lmao
boreal veldt
Outlaw at least has gun
spare basalt
blizzard did great with that slaughter house reworked
fury still blows
its why all top solo shuff are fucking arms as fury
boreal veldt
As Arms I've been running Roar+Bleeds and Spear+Exploiter, both are good
1min Roar lines up with trinket so thats nice too
frank knoll
I get most of my wins in shuffle with spear
boreal veldt
I switch between em, had a rough solo yesterday with lock,mage,spriest in rotation. Definitely not a bleed game, went spear.
frank knoll
Same, faced boomy, frost mage and another warrior
Boomy topping the meters no problem
Equal skill wouldve had boomy as kill target but the mage was weaker and so was the other warrior
limber relic
best healer for thundercleave?
spice hornet
Solo Shuffle 🤡
LMAO
obtuse coral
ive swapped to the bleed build and im liking it a lot more but my gear is mostly the crit pieces, do you think it would be more worth to swap the crit items like the neck to the haste one or to buy the wep?
my current wep is the 421 world pvp one
so its 3 ilvl on wep vs more haste on gear
limber relic
there is no conq cap
obtuse coral
that doesnt mean i dont want to prio biggest upgrades first
boreal veldt
I mean you don't need too much more haste since you roar on cs and you'll get the 10% haste off that
obtuse coral
i mean this is my stats rn
i guess its not actually even that much haste im missing out on
boreal veldt
yeah in my opinion that looks real good
hollow ore
stat balance is pixel
obtuse coral
but i am also rocking this which i do want to change to the haste one with haste gems
earnest wharf
conquest is uncapped though so ur gonna eventually have a bunch extra to waste, just not priority this very second
within the next week or so, pretty much all conquest gear should be almost disposable, just a minor cost for gems, enchants, etc.
frank knoll
Is it ever okay to hit someone when they have thorns on them
grand scaffold
Is it ever okay to hit someone when they have thorns on them
yeah
but atm thorns cranks
so i wouldnt
like in sl s1 thorns would kill you
s2 thorns was not that bad
it got not so bad over time
prob gonna be the same here
frank knoll
I’ve done it, like if the other target has pain sup on it it or something
But maybe it’s a better idea in that scenario to hit the healer?
grand scaffold
swap on pain sup
dont bother hitting into it tbh
hard to kill through
but if they at like 20% dumb idea to swap
pearl sierra
how bad is it if I just only got 2set
frank knoll
Yeah I know enough not to hit into pain sup, doesn’t it have two charges now?
grand scaffold
yeahg
neon quest
haste -> mastery -> crit still the way for fury, for the 5 of us that still do fury in pvp
feral heath
How are you all dealing with dubble range in SS. Losing so much atm..
grand tendon
How are you all dealing with dubble range in SS. Losing so much atm..
Lining as much as possible in between bursts is helping me quite a bit but it's quite hard to get your team onboard with the idea in my experience
obtuse coral
every lobby is just warlocks and ele shams 
grand tendon
every lobby is just warlocks and ele shams <:deadge:900279927138578432>
I'm getting loads of frost mages as well
obtuse coral
i really like getting hit for 100k by an instant cast earth shock
sharp meteor
lavalvavalvlavlal
frank knoll
Isn’t frost DK worse than fury
frank knoll
i really like getting hit for 100k by an instant cast earth shock
Just line it bro
sharp meteor
ya ur time for line bro
frank knoll
Take rebound
grand scaffold
fotm people literally disgust me
frank knoll
Is that we are all here? FOTM?
grand scaffold
huh
sharp meteor
fotm people literally disgust me
grand scaffold
everybody just rerolled destro all of a sudden
and frost mage
never see any other casters
frank knoll
A lot of frost mages suck
They don’t realize that you don’t need to stop and cast frost bolt
grand scaffold
They don’t realize that you don’t need to stop and cast frost bolt
thing is
you dont
frank knoll
Nope. Literally don’t have to press it at all
grand scaffold
Nope. Literally don’t have to press it at all
yeah
you dont
im not joking either or being sarcastic
you just spam ice lance all game
frank knoll
So when they’re standing still casting frost bolt and I get to kick them on frost it’s nice 😊
frank knoll
Last frost mage I played, his #1 damage was ring of fire
grand scaffold
feels great
grand scaffold
Last frost mage I played, his #1 damage was ring of fire
yeah thats retarded
usually its icelance tho
silent herald
yo roar build or spear build for solo shuffle?
steel trout
yo roar build or spear build for solo shuffle?
imo roar better but spear is very good too for shuff
rare ibex
Is the difference between Waking Stats and Sustained Strength just a matter of ~150 stamina for ~30 strength?
silent herald
should i play rend even though i go spear build? @sterile heart '
steel trout
yeh
sharp meteor
sure
silent herald
shii ight and i find myself basically not clicking slam is that bad?
muted surge
Is the difference between Waking Stats and Sustained Strength just a matter of ~...
Yea
muted surge
shii ight and i find myself basically not clicking slam is that bad?
Slam is just for totems :>
rare ibex
I don't even have slam on my hotbars 😦
obtuse coral
wooo :D
muted surge
The builds that are floating around here
rare ibex
I mean, which of those enhants are you running?
slim knoll
yea im only going Tauren when this becomes available.
Is this actually happening?
muted surge
Is the pvp illusion in game?
muted surge
I mean, which of those enhants are you running?
Eh the stamina one
It’s more expensive, so it has to be better :x
rare ibex
silent herald
@obtuse coral yo how long are ur queues?
obtuse coral
depends
i was getting like 7-12 minute queues
but last like 4-5 games have been 30+
silent herald
ahh shii sad
obtuse coral
nah its perfect, i do something else between games which makes me not get burnt out as fast
slim knoll
is the totem weapon for tauren actually something that's coming??
obtuse coral
what do you guys play for alts? i was considering swapping my mw to a ww but idk
steel trout
another war 💯
limber relic
warlocks EVERYWHERE
candid cradle
what do you guys play for alts? i was considering swapping my mw to a ww but idk
Alt war to warm up for main q's
obtuse coral
Alt war to warm up for main q's
thats smart
candid cradle
Until it passes main RIP
obtuse coral
ive pretty much only ever played healers in arena, my first time actually playing dps so i still not sure on what classes i'd like to play
candid cradle
Play it all. Never been an easier time to try stuff
obtuse coral
wish i could send conq to my alts like you could in sl
candid cradle
That'd be pretty nice
obtuse coral
holding out for that ret rework
warm portal
Is the pvp illusion in game?
No
slender lion
shit vault pve side of things, tier head pvp tho.
steel trout
Yes thunder is good
steel trout
shit vault pve side of things, tier head pvp tho.
U dont want head
slender lion
U dont want head
pish, wrists r only 3 ilvl upgrade
steel trout
Socket angle perhaps
steel trout
I wanted to take socket but got 421 shoulders 😔
rare ibex
Anyone gotten a spark from PVP yet?
karmic meteor
man gearing a fresh 200k-300k hp warrior in randoms has to be the worst experience ... with survival or dk you can at least spam poison dart / frost fewer from range in EBGs... how do you guys do it?
rare ibex
We eat a lot of shit.
But.. epic bg wetworks tends to work for me. Can't just zug with the zerg unfortunately.
karmic meteor
wetworks?
rare ibex
Just running off and picking a target with equally shitty gear that's away from the pack.
Ashran is nice because melee get a HP buff and ranged don't.
So I'll camp around their mage and kill the guys running back.
But obviously the key is for your team to win so you can get conq.
mild thunder
man gearing a fresh 200k-300k hp warrior in randoms has to be the worst experien...
We don’t waste time in epic battlegrounds
What a boring fuckfest
rare ibex
Yeah, shit's no fun.
mild thunder
I still don’t understand how people unironically complain about gearing… just get 11k honour before 70, or do like 3 hours of bgs at max level
Or buy 398 gear from ah and do some arenas
torpid roost
People will complain about literally anything
grand scaffold
People will complain about literally anything
yeah
next thing
disc priests will complain they werent born with iq
candid cradle
@grand scaffold how's that Cr man?!
grand scaffold
yeah
eventually
i need to stop fooling around with sks
i should be good
im getting new ideas for things i can play
mild thunder
I just heard someone complain that epic bgs are no fun...
I don’t think anyone here will defend epic bgs
It’s not real PvP
candid cradle
Play for comfort imo
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> how's that Cr man?!
like bro
i got 2763
took a few peoples advice
played
dropped to 2700
dropped to 2600
dropped to 2500
dropped to 2400
got to 2600 again
and been fluctuating
candid cradle
Yeah just do you. It'll even over tkme
grand scaffold
its about 2 days for me
candid cradle
Playing the "best" build isn't as important as being comfortable with what you're playing.
grand scaffold
possibly
idk
last week i was feeling sks
this week not so much
gonna go back to regular bleeds
candid cradle
It's worth learning for sure but it's not going to stop you from climbing
rare ibex
I just heard someone complain that epic bgs are no fun...
Epic bgs are super fun for some specs. Not for an undergeared warrior.... at least not typically.
candid cradle
I haven't played SKS a single game
grand scaffold
you guys just dont know how to play epic bg's
steel trout
its not the build....
grand scaffold
all you gotta do
is rp walk
and then press autowalk
you will autorun for a loooooong time
candid cradle
So true
candid cradle
Get it
cinder thorn
It’s not real PvP
It is, there are 1v1 and group vs group and raid vs raid in there
I don't know what more pvp you want than that
karmic meteor
I still don’t understand how people unironically complain about gearing… just ge...
damn i forgot about the AH gear thanks
candid cradle
Inc 6-0
steel trout
it was the build
NO
candid cradle
Sounds like the build was the issue imo
grand scaffold
Sounds like the build was the issue imo
😂
swapped to pure bleeds and broke draw streak
candid cradle
I wish rend felt good to press
grand scaffold
I wish rend felt good to press
it doesnt feel bad
candid cradle
Nah it's just there basically
candid cradle
Gotta get the w
grand scaffold
yeah
went 4-2
0 cr because of getting 3 or 4 draws in a row
and a 0-6 before that
candid cradle
On your way back
grand scaffold
yeah
idk aside from build probably contributing to it
i tink its a mindset problem
think*
candid cradle
Usually is. Either tilt/mindset or just a string of bad rng in lobbies. Or both
grand scaffold
eh
candid cradle
Shit happens
grand scaffold
not exactly that i think switching builds gives me hope or some shit who knows
😂
bro
this week
i got 2600 back like 3 or 4 times
and
2 of those time
i got to 2610
INSTANT REQUE
bm ele frost mage
both times
candid cradle
Oof
grand scaffold
0-6
candid cradle
Unfortunate