pvp

[wheat jay]

Finally someone spits some truth

[drifting jacinth]

pvp players are edgy

[quick carbon]

i can argue every spec is broken except for the one i play

[drifting jacinth]

:^)

[wheat jay]

Frost dk broken

[quick carbon]

frost dk solos entire teams

broken spec

[vivid pumice]

anyway did yall see that Pala is getting heroic leap

[wheat jay]

Yes

Imo they deserve one

[vivid pumice]

so thats neat

[quick carbon]

ya i cant wait to double leap on a locks gate

as ret war

[sharp meteor]

ur buddy havin a meltie over shoofle

[wheat jay]

Now they should get their spells nerfed

[drifting jacinth]

all pvp discords are players complaining that they get fucked by melee or casters

[wheat jay]

With a RANGE NERF

WHY DO THEY CRY ABOUT BEING SLOW WHEN THEYRE RANGED

[sharp meteor]

just had this not cast a single curse in 6 rounds

crying about melee

[nimble jasper]

i mean

avg warrior player proba

[wheat jay]

Not wrong

[sharp meteor]

wats his name i probs just domed him

[wheat jay]

Warriors in shuffle are retards

Straight up

[nimble jasper]

was yesterday

[wheat jay]

Monkey fucking leapt to break my trap and charged back to smash

[sharp meteor]

and my alt i just realized only lost 16 points on climb in total

almost in mmr heaven

[drifting jacinth]

I think the whole caster/melee argument is player preference

[nimble jasper]

i dont think i’ve seen one good intervene

from a warrior this season

[sharp meteor]

got a kidney and bolt earlier my lock still died tho lmao

[nimble jasper]

casters are only harder for lower end players

who dont have a grasp of the game

[drifting jacinth]

i prefer caster over melee in pvp

easier to think

[nimble jasper]

tho then theres people like metaphors

idk how he was r1

mf has slow ass reflexes

[drifting jacinth]

melee is a lot more reactive than caster

[nimble jasper]

yeah i mean

positioning is big for casting

[drifting jacinth]

cuz casters only start moving when they're gettin assraped

[vivid pumice]

casters are hard for people who start arena by charging

[nimble jasper]

warrior players who leap

[sharp meteor]

if stuff is planned out it's easier to react

because it's just scripted

[nimble jasper]

in first 3 gcds

of combat

[sharp meteor]

me

[nimble jasper]

anytime i’d play my yellow

sap

insta zerker

and leap

9/10 times

[sharp meteor]

zerker spin

[drifting jacinth]

melee tunnel vision

[nimble jasper]

zerker spin

zerker leap

whiff spear by a mile

cuz hamstring is hard to press

[sharp meteor]

aw yeah shuffle time

[drifting jacinth]

I put that shit on a charge macro

[sharp meteor]

healer lined pysfiend unkilled defensives unpressed yep that's me

[nimble jasper]

idk seems alot of healers

cant adjust to the speed

of this meta

[drifting jacinth]

fuck healers

[sharp meteor]

nobody can lmao

dps dying like flies

[drifting jacinth]

they're da reason I suck 😠

[nimble jasper]

its more noticeable idk

[sharp meteor]

just had a ret/devoker kill some guy from 72% in an instant

match just randomly ends

[mild thunder]

fun

[nimble jasper]

feels like specs like havoc you can get away with bad def use more

cuz your cd is so short

[mild thunder]

pvp pacing isnt a problem

[sharp meteor]

healthbar fdidnt even update it ust said match ended

so i check deaths and he got executed from 72%

like oh okay

[nimble jasper]

idk why ret

is being buffed

[mild thunder]

its not?

[nimble jasper]

getting a leap

is p big

[obtuse coral]

i wouldnt call a rework a buff

[mild thunder]

bro

thats not how it works

lmao

[drifting jacinth]

I mean ret's been a meme for how many xpac's?

[mild thunder]

"oh no, i saw one datamined change and ignored the fact they're getting reworked entirely"

[nimble jasper]

idk avg ret player has almost as strong the tism as most warrior players

how to press sanc

[nimble jasper]

entirety of the game

[delicate ginkgo]

ret's should be removed from the game

paladin is a healing class

[drifting jacinth]

so its for women

[obtuse coral]

the fuck

[nimble jasper]

priest

[delicate ginkgo]

[sage raptor]

if I could remove something from the game it would be either druids or DHs

[nimble jasper]

evokers

[delicate ginkgo]

dractyr race

does not fit wow

[steel trout]

Rogue fsure

[nimble jasper]

hpriest is basically

[drifting jacinth]

as soon as we got DH's they shouldve gotten rid of demo locks

[nimble jasper]

the stereotypical egirl spec

or bm hunter

[delicate ginkgo]

[mild thunder]

boomy

is the egirl spec

[nimble jasper]

disc takes more skill generally

[mild thunder]

check any female streamer on twitch, its boomy

[obtuse coral]

getting a bit misogynistic in here

[drifting jacinth]

boomy is the biggest bird

[mild thunder]

sometimes priest, but usually boomy

[mild thunder]

yes

[nimble jasper]

naw im not entirely srs

[mild thunder]

i am 100% serious

[drifting jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-top-g-cigar-smoking-andrew-tate-cigar-gif-26262606

[nimble jasper]

zenlyn only good hpriest otp

[mild thunder]

every woman on my bnet plays boomy

[nimble jasper]

alli?

[mild thunder]

nelf

[nimble jasper]

true

[mild thunder]

i think one has a belf alt

[nimble jasper]

horde druid races are uh…

[delicate ginkgo]

woman on your battlenet? how does one aquire those?

[obtuse coral]

i mean it is the best race

[mild thunder]

white knighting 🤓

[nimble jasper]

nelf goated

[delicate ginkgo]

[nimble jasper]

my guild stinky horde

[drifting jacinth]

horde is somehow less edgy than alliance

[nimble jasper]

blame moonguard

[mild thunder]

there's no edge left anywhere in wow except for shuffle lobby chat

[drifting jacinth]

or keys

[nimble jasper]

zoomer teenager nelf feral

[mild thunder]

me anytime im matched with a latam player in m+

[nimble jasper]

from moonguard

[drifting jacinth]

raiding is the only part of WoW that needs to be toxic imo

[mild thunder]

shuffle is, and always will be, incredibly toxic

now that it's just random strangers matched together

[sharp meteor]

idk games lately have been pchill

[nimble jasper]

who could have seen that coming

[sharp meteor]

one fotm disc kept telling people to toast bath as he went 0-6

[delicate ginkgo]

the most toxic part of wow is the lackluster developers that don't have the requierd highend player experiance needed to make a good and interesting game

[nimble jasper]

voidshift first cd to trade

[delicate ginkgo]

so instead they day drink on the job

[nimble jasper]

i love fotm disc players

[drifting jacinth]

toxicity is based on how punishing the consequence for losing is

key depletion for instance

[quick carbon]

if i ever lose everyone on my team sucks

[delicate ginkgo]

also. back to what arms warrior needs, we need a talent that turns slam in to heroic strike so we can dump rage for more dmg as we are almost gcd locked as it is

[quick carbon]

and my opponents r on broken specs

[nimble jasper]

idk lower shuffle is way more aids

cuz players hold onto their cr

for dear life

[quick carbon]

shuffle in general is more toxic than 3v3 ever was

[delicate ginkgo]

heroic strike is the perfect counterbalance to ignore pain, gives our rage value and a decition to be made how to spend it

[drifting jacinth]

well cuz you can wait 20 min just to tank 46 cr

[nimble jasper]

yeah and

how much does 46 cr matter

in a whole season

xd

[quick carbon]

u can legit gain 500 cr

in

2 hours

[drifting jacinth]

well depends on how much more u lose after

[quick carbon]

shuffle is such a meme

[nimble jasper]

yeah

mmr matters more

than cr

[drifting jacinth]

wasting an hour just to lose 200 rating

[quick carbon]

just dont lose then

lmao

owned

[nimble jasper]

L

[sharp meteor]

wait 30 minutes go 3-3 get 50 points woo

[nimble jasper]

i went 3-3

cuz the rdruid

lost every round

[quick carbon]

outplayed

[drifting jacinth]

All im doin is explaining why shuffle is spergy lol

[nimble jasper]

its a meme bracket

that people think is more important than it is

[steel trout]

Deflate shuffle inflate 3s

[drifting jacinth]

easy way to get elite gear

[nimble jasper]

this

[steel trout]

🗣️

[quick carbon]

3s is just

3s isnt ever gonna be the same

it is what it is

[steel trout]

How can there be only 4 teams

At 2.1 mmr

For 1 hour

In s1

[drifting jacinth]

3's are gonna inflate from shuffle players who think theyre hot shit regardless

[delicate ginkgo]

shuffle is the best thing to ever have happend to wow pvp. but it will kill any serious compedative side

[quick carbon]

cuz solo shuffle for 1

andd the

superbowl

for 2

no1 is playing rn

[lean burrow]

nope

3s is dead

[drifting jacinth]

we'll see

[sharp meteor]

glad probs gonna end up being similar to eternal

[lean burrow]

they should delete 2s and make 3s %-based

[sharp meteor]

although they could rug shuffle mmr

[lean burrow]

game saved

[sharp meteor]

idk how that'd fix anything

most people don't play 3s because glad too hard

and that keeps it hard

[drifting jacinth]

just sacrifice your social life for glad

[sharp meteor]

like glad right now is probs higher than top 0.5%

[nimble jasper]

just

[delicate ginkgo]

they should delete arena, make rbgs the only pvp. and alow for 0 class stacking in it. max 1 of each class

[nimble jasper]

stop shuffle rewards

[sharp meteor]

no rbgs can burn in a fire

[nimble jasper]

after 1800

[sharp meteor]

rbg players too

[drifting jacinth]

[sharp meteor]

unironically delete rbgs and rework them into the brawls

[drifting jacinth]

rbg's are more fun by design than arenas

[copper hare]

Hard agree

[sharp meteor]

premade 10v10 in a dead boomer game ain't it

[lean burrow]

higher as in <0.5% or >0.5%?

[sharp meteor]

solo queue 5-6 player objective based stuff

[lean burrow]

wrong reply

[drifting jacinth]

bro 16 year olds can get glad

[mild thunder]

[vivid pumice]

16 year olds have 10 hours a day to play

[copper hare]

What does that even mean lol

[sharp meteor]

wym kids are probs the best players

[mild thunder]

idk if this is supposed to mean it's easy? generally most successful pro gamers are young, wow just has an older audience

[sharp meteor]

they play all day and don't have 15 years of bad habits

like the 35 year old balding guys who click their buttons

[mild thunder]

the younger the better

[drifting jacinth]

then play like a 16 year old

[compact heron]

random but whats the fastest way to level now with the cobalt nerd

nerf

[nimble jasper]

alot of the boomers dont want to change

[mild thunder]

campaign

[delicate ginkgo]

if you are older than 25, you are basicly dying already.

[nimble jasper]

also 35 and balding lmfao

massive L

[drifting jacinth]

a boomer is gonna have more game knowledge than a 16 year old

but somehow 16 year olds outperform

[vivid pumice]

its like this in any online competitive game. You have John who works 45 hours a week, playing 2 hours of CoD on a Saturday night after the kids have gone to bed, playing against Jimmy who is 13 and has been playing 10 hours a day 7 days a week

[mild thunder]

the only stopgap for younger players in wow is game knowledge, and that's something they (generally) have more time to learn than older people

[flat tide]

They ain't playing with 200ms irl lmao

[copper hare]

He's such a bad troll lol

[mild thunder]

this is such an L take lol

[drifting jacinth]

pvp is p much all about game knowledge

[vivid pumice]

There is no knowledge in wow that isn't a youtube video away

[nimble jasper]

idk you can still get by on limited gametime if you uhh….

have friends

[mild thunder]

and who has more time to learn the game? 16 year old with zero responsibility, or an adult with wife and kids?

[nimble jasper]

if you lfg well yeah lmao

[flat tide]

Gecar more like Gibraltar from Apesex

[drifting jacinth]

god bless unemployment

[serene kestrel]

gibby mains rise up?

[drifting jacinth]

Gecar still loves u

[flat tide]

Don't care

[nimble jasper]

insert meme about eu

[mild thunder]

[delicate ginkgo]

EU are better SMILE

[copper hare]

I wish votekick was an option

[mild thunder]

yes

[nimble jasper]

well eu just has real vacation time

[flat tide]

Yo clutch or kick fr fr on god

[mild thunder]

or that this channel was moderated at all

[drifting jacinth]

I know mythic raid guilds that wont allow anyone younger than 18

[nimble jasper]

na companies tell you work with 10 days of vacation a year

[flat tide]

How they gonna check

[nimble jasper]

for the good of capitalism

[flat tide]

Make you post your license or some shit lmao

Boomers just don't want to be gapped

[mild thunder]

most guilds that are 18+ are like that for nsfw reasons

not performance lol

[drifting jacinth]

ive seen some do 19+

[nimble jasper]

most of the best guilds arent very boomer heavy

[mild thunder]

exactly

[nimble jasper]

also the age thing is funny

[flat tide]

True, but then again I doubt any youngen wants to play with 20 dads who make subpar mediocre jokes and talk about Sunday night football

[nimble jasper]

I’ve said alot more nono words

in my teen years

[vivid pumice]

most of the best guilds are playing wow sponsored while streaming as a full time job

[drifting jacinth]

middle schoolers talk like sailors

[delicate ginkgo]

its cos of mental, and the ability to dictade your own playtime at the evening/raidtime

[flat tide]

Whats long and covered in seamen?

[delicate ginkgo]

it has nothing to do with nsfw or skill

[nimble jasper]

i feel part of if is competitive desire

[wooden grove]

A Frigate

[nimble jasper]

some people when they get older dont care as much

[flat tide]

A submarine you buffoon

[wooden grove]

They’re inside the submarine not covering it

[vivid pumice]

haha imagine "hey guys I can't help with RWF because i'm grounded i got a bad grade in math"

[flat tide]

Nah they are on the outside

[drifting jacinth]

killing Heroic Lich King is all they need in their minds

[nimble jasper]

wow is a terrible esport

[lucid walrus]

this sounds entertaining ngl

[nimble jasper]

relatively speaking

[mild thunder]

nsfw is definitely a part of it

[flat tide]

It isn't

[wooden grove]

Based and true

[mild thunder]

but you're right, it's also reliability

and maturity

[drifting jacinth]

yea cuz its fuckin boring to watch

[wooden grove]

Most mechanic heavy mmo fights are terrible streaming experiences tbh

[mild thunder]

i definitely did when i was 19

i loved my boomer raid team

[delicate ginkgo]

only esport worth anything in wow is race to world first

[drifting jacinth]

nobody's gonna understand why people press 11+ abilities

[vivid pumice]

wow suffers from the same problem all games have as esports. If you don't have intimate knowledge of how the game operates at a competitive level, then nothing is going to make sense to you

[drifting jacinth]

csgo you just see people shoot gun

[flat tide]

I hate the boomer guilds I've been in, actual •-•

[mild thunder]

id rather be stuck in a raid with boomers that i can roast for being old farts than a bunch of zoomer retards that screech if you're not min-maxed to the 10th degree

[lucid walrus]

i’m also an american frat boy so that’s prob why a dadgamer guild like that sounds funny

[vivid pumice]

I only raid with stoners

[drifting jacinth]

they prolly still dont know wtf theyre talkin about

[mild thunder]

american 🤢
frat 🤢
boy 🤢

[flat tide]

Me when the boomers make yet another joke about their wives

[nimble jasper]

if you play with people that talk about lawn care

got some real boomers

[lucid walrus]

real

[drifting jacinth]

I hate raiding with guilds tbh

I dont like video games creating a schedule

[mild thunder]

there werent that many wife jokes, but there were a lot of jokes about underaged girls because one of the guys was a gym teacher

[nimble jasper]

I would say tho that scheduling is only part of it

[mild thunder]

kinda sus

[lucid walrus]

nvm

[delicate ginkgo]

you don't like orgaising a time you can play togehter with people you enjoy?

[nimble jasper]

boomers can be almost as unreliable as kids sometimes

[lucid walrus]

boomers lag behind on what’s a no-go conversationally for sure

[mild thunder]

if anything, boomers can be more unreliable because they'll have actual responsibilities

[drifting jacinth]

applying to guilds is more like applying to a job nowadays

[flat tide]

Every gym teacher has two wolves inside them. Pdfile and football coach

[hazy isle]

most of u throwing out the word boomer are prob boomers yourselves

the new cut off is anything above 25

[mild thunder]

^

[flat tide]

I aint

[drifting jacinth]

avg player is like 28

[wooden grove]

Anybody not zoomin is boomin

[mild thunder]

id say 28-32

[delicate ginkgo]

if you are under 26 you are an actual zoomer

[hazy isle]

yea if you are 28 thats pretty boomer imo

[drifting jacinth]

1997 is the cutoff

[mild thunder]

28 is pretty fucking old

25 is old

[hazy isle]

ya

[copper hare]

People below 30 piss me off

[mild thunder]

people named Mave piss me off

[flat tide]

30+ year olds don't exist

[copper hare]

Reported

[delicate ginkgo]

fight me old man

[wooden grove]

Just bodies in graves tbh

[hazy isle]

you are above 30? holy

[lucid walrus]

actual fossils playing this game

[copper hare]

HAHA

[flat tide]

Think I dug this guy up in Pokémon once

[drifting jacinth]

everything goes downhill after 21

[wooden grove]

Laptop in the casket ass

[mild thunder]

was it ever not downhill?

[copper hare]

actual fossils ok that actually made me laugh

[hazy isle]

speak for urself

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk older guilds I’ve been in

have had way worse attendance

[flat tide]

Who's the strongest warrior player?

[delicate ginkgo]

me

[hazy isle]

asmon

[nimble jasper]

asmon is withered irl

[mild thunder]

dekel

[wooden grove]

Probably reckful

[flat tide]

2 soon

[hazy isle]

dekel is 2 good for retail

[torpid roost]

Oof

[sharp meteor]

he lookin like a rogue player

[lucid walrus]

physically strongest? baj probably

[mild thunder]

dekel is the reason mud wont stream

[nimble jasper]

idk reckful was too goated

became best at the class

[drifting jacinth]

swifty

[nimble jasper]

in 1 ssn

[wooden grove]

Legit

[torpid roost]

SWOFTY

[vivid pumice]

if you're talking out of game, bajheera looks like he could bench press a truck

[hazy isle]

too busy playing high octane wrath 2s

[flat tide]

@elfin surge is it true you are scared of Dekel irl?

[mild thunder]

swifty was the og fitness-gaming streamer

[lucid walrus]

baj has been bodybuilding for a min now

[mild thunder]

we gotta respect it

[nimble jasper]

i think magnusz is bigger than baj

in terms of gains

[drifting jacinth]

bro im tellin u Darkspear was goated

[torpid roost]

I'll fight bahj... irl, he'll fuck me up in game

[copper hare]

I know something else that's big

[drifting jacinth]

I remember when Sodapoppin was a pvp name

[mild thunder]

sodapoppin

[elfin surge]

Thats Demonic Gladiator Dekel to you, sir.

[lucid walrus]

mag is like 12ft tall

i didn’t know if he lifted tho

[nimble jasper]

yeah then he got clowned on by a 16 year old

in bfa

[wooden grove]

WoD Darkspear was goated

[torpid roost]

I didn't even know we knew what he looked like

[nimble jasper]

doing feral duels

[flat tide]

Holy shit its true. Demonic Gladiator Dekel really is king

[hazy isle]

awc should just be wrath 2s from now on

[drifting jacinth]

I got body dysmorphia cuz I aint 10ft tall

[nimble jasper]

dekel lul

losing the hpal war 2s mirror

[torpid roost]

I'm 6'7 and I feel too small sometimes

[mild thunder]

lost to the fucking miestro

[obtuse coral]

god i love this build

[hazy isle]

im also 6'11

[mild thunder]

crusader3455 is the real gigachad

and we all know it

[torpid roost]

Christ, how do you fit in anything

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-crusader3455-wow-spazz-out-beast-mode-gif-25970151

[torpid roost]

I can barely do sports cars, which I love

[drifting jacinth]

I lost my shins so i'm 4'6 now

[nimble jasper]

i thought his twitter pfp

was his pecs

sometime back

[copper hare]

Didn't expect anything else from the tokyo drift troll

[nimble jasper]

crusader is just….loud

[flat tide]

He's the wock

[drifting jacinth]

I pissed in your tea

[lucid walrus]

i don’t use my twitter much idk

[nimble jasper]

he doesnt even break top 5 hpals in the region

[copper hare]

Pls no my tea

[mild thunder]

he also looks like a goblin

willem dafoe if he was a zoomer

[nimble jasper]

actually dunno what top 5 would be

brain>zach>kosaki>?

[hazy isle]

is crusader unironically like that or is it a character? feels like a mix of both

[mild thunder]

i feel like its mostly unironic, but part of it is hopefully a character

guy's got actual irl issues, its kinda fucked

[obtuse coral]

yeah im pretty sure its mostly unironic

[nimble jasper]

5 hr ceiling fan stream

[obtuse coral]

the whole thing with his family beating him on stream

[mild thunder]

its funny, but they're also deranged

didnt he move out already?

[torpid roost]

Fucking lmao

[nimble jasper]

yes

“palace of light” tour

[flat tide]

Who's the strongest rogue player?

[delicate ginkgo]

noone

they weak

[mild thunder]

you guys heard the story of how willem dafoe's schlong was so humongous they had to use a body double?

actual gigachad

[elfin surge]

🐱 👦 nahj

[nimble jasper]

pika’s prob the tallest

[flat tide]

Nahj is a cutie fr fr

[delicate ginkgo]

mud, where stream

[drifting jacinth]

dafoe got a face full of madonna's crotch

before she turned into a space alien

[elfin surge]

i will return once again

[flat tide]

Mud scared of Demonic Gladiator Dekal

Doesn't want to risk queuing into him

[sharp meteor]

male human with anime hair

[drifting jacinth]

Malevolent gladiator's

[nimble jasper]

honestly tho

most of the good rogues are eu

at this point

[drifting jacinth]

WoW is an EU game

[obtuse coral]

anyone got a cancel aura bladestorm macro handy

[nimble jasper]

eu jungles

eu any rogue comp that isnt rmx

[drifting jacinth]

social safety net players

[nimble jasper]

ele is interesting

[lucid walrus]

just throw /cancelaura Bladestorm into anything

[nimble jasper]

ask na players they think ele dies too fast

eu thinks ele is immortal

[lucid walrus]

kick, charge etc

[obtuse coral]

is it just /cancelaura bladestorm?

[lucid walrus]

yeah

[obtuse coral]

thought it was more than that tbh

alright ty

[lucid walrus]

nah, just gotta press it once. don’t bind it and your actual storm button together ofc

[nimble jasper]

think rat’s team despite how bursty it is

[drifting jacinth]

make cc macros for it too

[nimble jasper]

said ele lock rdruid is basically

getting 3-0ed scenario

every time

[drifting jacinth]

locks stay winnin

except when demo's the meta

[rain shuttle]

What's the stat prio and % for all of them.

[sharp meteor]

mastery seems least good for arms

crit good

idk there's not too much variation in gearing

[thick reef]

yea mast def worst stat for us

[mild thunder]

our mastery needs a rework

just a %dmg gain, versatility but worse

so dull

[sharp meteor]

isnt the bleed still nerfed

[elfin surge]

Evoltoad-Illidan keeps ganking my level 60 gnome

😠

[sharp meteor]

straight back 1400 orc

[elfin surge]

@lethal falconltoad

[vivid pumice]

what do the nerds in world chat say

turn wm off if you don't wanna get ganked

[sharp meteor]

"get domed bozo lmao"

[elfin surge]

im being level boosted

[sharp meteor]

at least it can be turned off these days

old pvp servers could be a pain with no phasing

[vivid pumice]

yeah i stopped playing on pvp servers back in mop when i was leveling a new toon and this hunter spent 4 hours camping me in Hinterlands

[mild thunder]

turn wm off if you dont wanna get ganked 🤓
after they gank you with their lvl 70 raid team'

[thick reef]

LMAO
?

thats act insane

ur getting grifed by another warrior in here

[drifting jacinth]

I need to hop on that storm lvl boost shit

ez money

[lean burrow]

Based

[drifting jacinth]

bro bloody coins turned me into a r1 gankster

[worn yoke]

Bros gimme some pro tips on spear usage. Offensively, do you go bolt - c.smash-spear-dam? Do you ever use spear defensively?

[leaden lynx]

never defense, only offense

zug zug

[torpid roost]

If you're having to use spear defensively you've PROBABLY already lost the game

but, I could see situations where that could work

[elfin surge]

Real

Its different to spear melee off your warlock and try to counter pressure vs spearing melee off yourself to run away tho

[torpid roost]

This is assuming they have already exhausted their abilities that allow them to walk out of it

[thick reef]

i love counter pres with spear

if they dont get out of it

[worn yoke]

I’ve been running roar because I’m bad and at ~1700 solo shuffle dudes will actually just eat a full smash/avatar/roar without pressing a cd, whereas the spear grabs more attention. But ultimately I want to be a full crit spear chad for maximum numbers

I miss a fair number of spears currently when I try it

[balmy ingot]

for now which build seems better?

[copper hare]

preference and depending on what you face

[sharp meteor]

gettin aa in ashran on warr rly is the best thing

13 million damage with one roar into bladestorm

[sage raptor]

aa?

[sharp meteor]

Ancient Artifact. Buff that increases damage by 300%. The best part is the ranged players having a meltdown that you won't drop it.

[drifting jacinth]

yk I never understood why dk's dont have Bonestorm

[obtuse coral]

this guy has compeltely lost his mind after going 1-5 when i went 5-1

[opaque quarry]

You mean why they don't use it? Because they do have it.

[obtuse coral]

context i lost first round with him and he whispered me saying he hopes my mom dies

[drifting jacinth]

legit?

[opaque quarry]

Ye. At least Blood does.

[drifting jacinth]

like marrowgar?

[copper hare]

did you whisper him first tho

[opaque quarry]

Yes lol.

[obtuse coral]

no

[opaque quarry]

iirc its the bottom middle cap.

[obtuse coral]

this was the start of the convo

[copper hare]

you're a mom?

that's cute

[drifting jacinth]

I always try and give them useful advice

[copper hare]

you mom!!!111

[obtuse coral]

he just completely lost it that i didnt go on a fistweaver monk

[hazy isle]

lmao

[opaque quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/mom-yelling-help-mother-telling-gif-14604948

[obtuse coral]

how is someone this unstable

[drifting jacinth]

like telling them to go back to Classic wow

[thick reef]

lol what

''get r1'''

how is taht

even a good

insult or statmenet

[latent hazel]

bruh did a DH just say you are playing a braindead class?

holy moly

[thick reef]

replyign to t his sorry

[thick reef]

LMAO THE IRONY

[copper hare]

I mean my dh alt is lower than my war

clearly that makes dh harder no?

[latent hazel]

yea man

for sure

[thick reef]

dh is hard t o play

[latent hazel]

thats how it works

[obtuse coral]

im not even saying that warrior is hard or anything

[thick reef]

you dont understand

[obtuse coral]

just

how did a guy get so angry so quickly

[thick reef]

nah bro that guy

popping off on u as a dh

is just funny af

but the ''get r1 on ur main'' insult

was funny af

[obtuse coral]

the whole thing was funny hahaha

[thick reef]

oh for sure

[obtuse coral]

imagining him just foaming at the mouth behind the monitor

[copper hare]

that's usually the people that regret all of their life choices after one shuffle loss because they do nothing else 12 hours a day

[thick reef]

ya

[drifting jacinth]

I always call them r1 keyboard warriors

[mild thunder]

surprise surprise, that dh has >1800 rounds for 2200 on dh

rip

[sharp meteor]

wish i got more whispers

[latent hazel]

Y I K E S

[sharp meteor]

i even play all the meme races

[mild thunder]

i only whisper assasination rogues after i clap them in 2s

they deserve it

[sharp meteor]

ya only thing i have whispered is surv hunters as assa in bfa-sl

[drifting jacinth]

bait them into saying gamer words

[sharp meteor]

because surv/rdruid was

suffering

[mild thunder]

actually i messaged a dk in shuffle before because he said something like "is this what passes for 2400 these days, what a joke" and then went 2-4

guy had been pvping every single season since mop

and was barely cracking rating

[copper hare]

the only acceptable whisper for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izGwDsrQ1eQ

[drifting jacinth]

all my favorite whispers came from bloody coin ganking

farmed tf out of Bastion

[thick reef]

same

[mild thunder]

bloody coins... bastion?

[twilit patio]

@grand scaffold bro thats basically the build i use lmao

[drifting jacinth]

yea as soon as they fly in they give me blood payment

[mild thunder]

there were no bloody coins in SL

[drifting jacinth]

I wanted the MoP mount

aint no way im doin that shit in actual pvp with a 10 min cooldown

[sharp meteor]

i mean 2400 shuffle to be feelin like 1700 or something rn

but anybody can easily go 1-5 or something in a bad lineup

[mild thunder]

yea, sure but you cant talk shit and then go 2-4

[vivid pumice]

only whispers i've had recently were from a feral asking me why i was using banner 15 seconds into each match and i was like bro it's because literally the last 3 rounds you've rended me out of stealth and then cloned my healer and tried to burst me

[mild thunder]

and it definitely was not a bad lobby for uhdk lol, he was just ass

the enh shaman won more than him

[vivid pumice]

enh slaps into certain comps

[mild thunder]

enh is underrated, but dk's arent losing into it because of a "bad matchup"

[vivid pumice]

uhk is just one of those specs that's being carried by its lack of balance rn

see disc priest and demo lock

[nimble jasper]

so is prevoker

[vivid pumice]

havent seen one in awhile

i feel like disc priest is literally the only healer i see in shuffle now

9/10 games this week were double disc

[nimble jasper]

alot of discs seem to be

dusted off sl holy fotm players

aka dogshit

[vivid pumice]

yeah i' ve had so many who don't know what their CDs do

same with demo locks

i keep getting locks that never port, never gate, just sit there PvE'ing me

[nimble jasper]

yeah cuz 1600 lock players cry

[stable siren]

just played a game with 2 prot paladins in solo

[nimble jasper]

that class is squishy otherwise

[stable siren]

i had no idea what i was supposed 2 do

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor know whats one thing I noticed

if I do 2s with an lfg healer no matter the season

the ones who ask “who you going”

are usually really bad at the game

[sharp meteor]

dang haven't done 2s in a minute

[nimble jasper]

its just a thing I noticed in sl too

[mild thunder]

disc, uhdk, assa, prevo... i mean, there's quite a few

[nimble jasper]

was funny to me seeing the top shuffle being sub instead of assa

but i guess it does better when the people in your lobby have brains somewhat

[mild thunder]

yea i mean it's not like sub is weak

surprise surprise, multiple rogue specs are strong again

shocker

[nimble jasper]

assa feels like it folds with shuffle healers

cuz most are just brainlets

sub has p much everything needed to win games

besides a way to stop ape partners from fucking up drs

[mild thunder]

make disarm useable on allies

[copper hare]

the problem aint it's burst or output

its completely unplayable with everything but a rdruid

maybe a prevoker

[barren harness]

What is the current ARMS spec for Soloshuffle? it was Skullsplitter for a while I haven't been on since the patch

[grand scaffold]

either way

its insane

[stable siren]

had my hamstring blocked/dodged by a warlock, woo

[sharp meteor]

standard spear is great

bleeds and roar if spear gets no value

also tried spear with slam talents which felt fine

haven't tried skullsplitter, though 💀 🪓

[torpid roost]

Kinda preferring the roar build over spear but mostly because I miss spear way way way more often than I'd like to admit

[sharp meteor]

cds super scripted into spear

but if they aren't then somebody dies insta so

i just dislike spear into uhh warlocks and dks

also if people roughly stack and you get wb and/or roar on them then it's really decent pressure

[torpid roost]

I miss about 20% of spears, I miss no roars

[sharp meteor]

had a lock trinket port my roar earlier guess he was trying to pre the spear

[torpid roost]

What abilities allow people to walk out of it, netherwalk, cloak, deaths advance?

[sharp meteor]

cloak no longer because it's physical

[torpid roost]

Might be happening more than I think and I'm not missing they just cd it

[barren harness]

Can't we use a cast [@target] Spear of Bastion type macro?

[sharp meteor]

death's advance, meta, nether, rain from above, priest fly, WARLOCK GATE (which can be insta soulburned, and onto teammates), bop/bubble/block remove, dracthyrdeep breath

[barren harness]

and make sure you 100% hit the spear?

[sharp meteor]

not at target, but can at self or cursor

we could for a few days in sl but it was fixed

[torpid roost]

@target would put it where they were, yeah?

I don't miss when they aren't moving

[sharp meteor]

ya

fixed cos it breaks reticle abilities

can freezing trap people in the air etc

[mild thunder]

That shit was so stupid

[obtuse coral]

wooo 2k :D

i love this build

[topaz tulip]

Damn dog didn't you just hit 18? grats

[obtuse coral]

my rating after changing build 📈

[topaz tulip]

I went to bed. Every now and then when you dig something up you get attacked by an angry spirt, or a purple item is left behind that summons a worm. Both give more 10-30 bones

[obtuse coral]

but can i get duelist

@grand scaffold for the sks build do i just need to rend > cs > sks or do i does a ms deep wounds hit harder?

[topaz tulip]

Playing these matches, I guess i'm trying to pve this rotation shit. It feels too long trying to burst people down and most of the time I don't get them past 25% before the healer has a safety on them or I'm stun locked. are you really supposed to blow all of av/cs/rend/sb/ms/roar/sks and maybe bs in one window with only 13% haste? Most of the time I get as far as ms or roar before I can't move or they're safed.

[barren harness]

up that haste

[barren harness]

what buld?

can you link?

[topaz tulip]

Everyone saying crit is better, and not like I can swap almost full glad gear this far into the season with cq still locked out

[barren harness]

top warrior in soloshuffle stacks haste

They both are good just how you play it

[barren harness]

Can you link the copy/paste import code? I have a bad eye

[obtuse coral]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERSSSSKlSSAAAAABRioQSAR0QiQSoJRIBgDEJAAAAAAAAkQCCIQDB

[barren harness]

Thanks!

Which pvp talents do you use/

Disarm war and sharpen?

[mild thunder]

The top warrior in shuffle changes almost daily

[barren harness]

Yeah I agree, they do however usually swap between a crit and haste build so both are good

just how you play i

it*

I'm at 2.8k with a haste build but I wish I went crit sometimes

[mild thunder]

Haste(10%)Crit>haste is generally better

[sharp meteor]

there are multiple ways u could go about building and they all have their ups and downs

[barren harness]

sitting at 21% haste right now

[ebon pivot]

man, i take a night off at 1600, come back and play three rounds, all three all caster lobbies, and i drop back down to 1450

[sharp meteor]

can probs play any combination of stats and b chillin

[ebon pivot]

the rate you lose CR is redonk

[obtuse coral]

i hate playing vs this shit so much

[mild thunder]

I seriously don’t think arms gains a lot of value from haste post 10%

[topaz tulip]

Well yeah, I got that from watching mud. He was more haste, now he's more crit. I think I prefer more haste in general, but I do feel like the crits fill out dam a lot more

[barren harness]

Also depends on what your'e facing

I find haste vs heavy armor and crit vs casters seems to do better

so many ways to play

[topaz tulip]

And yet cq cap makes it impossible to just change your armor on the fly like that

[barren harness]

I hate teh CQ cap

i reach it day one of the week and then i'm done the whole week

so lame

[native thunder]

I was in a lobby earlier with 2 prot pally and a brew monk

[topaz tulip]

Mixed feelings about it. I understand why they do it, but also I don't htink it has the effect they want.

[barren harness]

lasted a week?

[topaz tulip]

I mean even now it's lasting. Drop down to 900-12k and you kind of shit on people with no effort just because you're double everyone elses dam. Makes it so people lower down have a sort of safety and time to get cq before they go too high and can't take it.

[sharp meteor]

ya that was my experience in sl

crit gains higher value with lower uptime

as u connect get a few abilities off during burst then kited

whereas pve cleave meat grinder haste felt better

although now crit just so decent in general

[mild thunder]

Trust me, conquest cap is good

[topaz tulip]

Oh i'm sure it'd be basically impossible to handle from start when the avids walk in full cq and you're stuck in wm because you only have one piece or something

[topaz tulip]

Also, did you read my question or was it too long?

[mild thunder]

I didn’t even see it

Let me go back and check

[mild thunder]

The biggest thing you can work on to lift yourself up to 2.4 is cross-cc… it’s easy as balls, no one else does it, and it makes kills a lot easier to get

It’s definitely not a stat issue

[obtuse coral]

the hell do you do vs brew

[mild thunder]

Also yea I never bladestorm in my burst as sks

[obtuse coral]

you cant kill it and it makes the dps unkillable

[mild thunder]

Rend > ava/cs > sks > ms + sharpen > resume rotation

Obviously don’t sharpen if they’re still full hp or the healer is in a long cc and they have no self healing

But generally you can sharpen there

Oh yea, and I usually roar after the ms for the deep wounds flat buff

[topaz tulip]

split dps/heals, mostly cc heals. Gonna be a long fight but it's def not impossible. Especially if it's a disc. They love health swapping when someone is about to die and then you just fry them for it.

Basically ignore brew. At least that's how i've dealth with it

[obtuse coral]

went 1-5 but only lost 12 raiting lmao

[mild thunder]

I also don’t run sharpened blades as sks

Just don’t see a lot of value from it

I usually swap it for fatality and SOA or improved ss

[topaz tulip]

Wait what? I thought you roar before ms for the buff. Was there a talent to make you do the opposite?

[mild thunder]

Just a matter of your mastery. There’s no real reason to TRoar first, better off getting your mastery and ms on the target first

Roar generally isn’t very frontloaded anyway, it adds pressure after your burst

[topaz tulip]

That's interesting. I have noticed that typically when someone is low early they get the "big heal" and the 50% red doesn't actually keep them from going back to max immediately anyway. Helps more later but then they already have so many stacks all healing sucks anyway

[mild thunder]

Roar can crit for north of 60k, but it usually won’t

[mild thunder]

Sharpened blades, not sharpen blade

Blame blizzard

Always, always, always run sharpen blade

[topaz tulip]

ohhhhh

[mild thunder]

does this disc still block raw import strings for talents?

[barren harness]

I had someone post me one earlier

[vivid pumice]

i know icy veins and wowhead are kinda shit for getting talent recommendations, just made a holy pala. where do I go for that stuff

[mild thunder]

pvp?

[vivid pumice]

yea

[mild thunder]

probably the hammer of wrath discord

just make sure you check the pins before you go in asking for a build

[thick reef]

@obtuse coral grats on 2k

hopefully no more idiots whispering haha

[obtuse coral]

i did get a wholesome whisper after saying sorry for playing bad

:D

[thick reef]

Pog nice to see understanding players

from rag as well

insane man keep it up!

[obtuse coral]

ive had more good interactions in SS than bad ones honestly

its weird

[thick reef]

same

i had 1 bad one

a guy said wtf to me and said i ran way when someone was 5% and that wasnt true

[mild thunder]

[thick reef]

the end result i ended up leavingg

[mild thunder]

you clearly havent been matched with me yet

[thick reef]

i was on a leaving rampage before they added in the bans for leaving LOL

i wanted a good winrate

[thick reef]

i saw u on pikas stream

[mild thunder]

[thick reef]

[mild thunder]

i am not legally liable for the toxicity that comes out during shuffles

[thick reef]

true

[mild thunder]

tryna remember when i wouldve versed pika tho

[thick reef]

i think it wa slike a week ago

he wa son disc

it was a shitty lobby for u

i tghink it was like rogue/ret/frost mage

[mild thunder]

okay yea, the last 2-3 weeks of shuffle have been horrid for me... only started winning again this week

got jaded af

[thick reef]

happens man, lobby luck is tough

yea

[mild thunder]

for several straight weeks

i only got caster lobbies, i kid you not

if not a caster, assa rogue

or sub

[thick reef]

ya

its so annoying

how 90% of the time we need to relay on good lobbys

or else we just cant win

[mild thunder]

yup

[ebon pivot]

I'm in the same boat Gala

[sharp meteor]

feels bad when healer decides to just chill

[ebon pivot]

cept I can't climb back up lmao

[sharp meteor]

just ambiently melt

[sharp meteor]

just gotta somewhat consistently go 4-2+

[mild thunder]

wait, Hansol still streams?

[sharp meteor]

disarm/intervene/fear enemy cds

[ebon pivot]

See i started goin 4-2 pretty consistently but I've been gettin 0 change. So then i end up getting that string of baad lobbies, drop down, climb back up, rinse repeat lol I did just switch to SKS build though

so I suppose learning that + just needing some git gud + bad lobbies

at least i'll get the mount soonish!

[obtuse coral]

the hell

you can get primal focus from boxes?

[barren harness]

yes

[obtuse coral]

is that a 2k + thing?

[sharp meteor]

Rival or duelist

the droprate is pretty booty tho

[obtuse coral]

dont exactly need them anyway

[sharp meteor]

i think my partner is like 2800 and finished his legend and got like 2

[obtuse coral]

all my pve crafted stuff is 418 already

[sharp meteor]

mmm true some other specs might want 418 crafted piece

like mages may want say the haste ring

[obtuse coral]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

or sub rogues the lariat

warr seems solid with boots n helm tho

arms at least

[obtuse coral]

surely it would be way easier to just go do 10 m+ for it

i love the helm

the dot pumps

[sharp meteor]

yep 100%

[topaz tulip]

Not true. Went 4-2 four lobbies in a row, went 1-6 from absolutely terrible matching and lost almost everything I'd gained in the last 4 matches. And then the rating off a 1-6 puts you so much lower you get 0 for less than 5 wins

[sharp meteor]

how bunged was ur mmr at thta point tho

[topaz tulip]

This has happened several times honestly, but since I only remember the most recent one - I came off of a 2-6, went 3-3 next round for 0cr. Insert the four 4-2, and gain ~ 74 cr. Lose 2-6 and drop 67.

I've basically averaged a 60% (no lower than 54, but as high as 70) win ratio as far as rounds go, but it doesn't seem like overall score has shit to do with how much cr you gain or lose. Unless there's a bar somewhere that sets min expected win rate for different ranks.

[sharp meteor]

how is ur mmr in shambles with a 60% wr

[topaz tulip]

You tell me. Most games I go 5-1 or 4-2, then eventually I take a big L with the opposite scores and drop a tier. If I lose two in a row like that it's complete dog shit - that's gonna cost between 100 and 150

Closer to 150 of course

But I'm still learning and asking questions, so I'm just hoping to cut the big losses out and at least go even in future. That should help for a more consistent climb.

[ebon pivot]

Yeah I'm finding If I tank my MMR, go 4-2 or 5-1, it'll take me 4-5 matches of that to get back up towards 1600ish

But then if I go 2-4 or 1-5 (yeesh) I'll insta lose like 100 cr

[topaz tulip]

Exactly. Although 5-1/6-0 seem to hit a reset switch on it and push you back up faster.

[ebon pivot]

Trying to keep the consistent 3-3 minimum should be easy enough, but I just got shunted down 60 points for going 2/4 in my last lobby. Hitting the high 1300 now since I started this grind lmao

i knew today was a bad day

I know on reddit if you brave the r/worldofpvp sub someone posted a chart that sorta explains MMR vs CR and what to roughly expect

[queen shoal]

elune be with yall. after playing ele sham for a while and raging from all the warriors tunneling me, i have decided to reroll warrior

[obtuse coral]

good luck in your first full caster lobby

[topaz tulip]

That's an interesting choice, because if we see each other as a weak link we tunnel each other too

[sharp meteor]

idk im more scared of ele than warr

actually the most unreal dam the entire game

[ebon pivot]

Ah hah took longer than i thought but here's the thread with the MMR - CR chart. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/10r59eb/i_made_this_flowchart_so_people_can_stop_asking/

[topaz tulip]

Is true. And the good ones can protect themselves by themselves mostly

[topaz tulip]

Fair enough, and does match what I've been seeing.

[winged heart]

I finally broke 1m damage in pvp

[sharp meteor]

Big dam.

[winged heart]

Yeah normally I don't do that good but I changed my build around and it's been way better

[spice hornet]

Hi @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

Good evening.

[drowsy depot]

does anyone have an issue with applying sharpen blade? says it's off cd but when you press it, nothing happens.

[sharp meteor]

It buffs you to make your next mortal strike apply it.

[drowsy depot]

I know

I'm talking when it's available

[sharp meteor]

Oh, dunno. I haven't had that happen in the past few years.

[lucid walrus]

it's happened to me on rare occasion

[drowsy depot]

is there a fix?

it's really frustrating

can throw games pretty hard

seems to only happen during combat

[mild thunder]

definitely

and even though they're good kill targets, a good ele shaman doesnt fall over

[sharp meteor]

Ele today doing like 45k dps but kept trying to walk into melee range behind pillars with no medallion or shift. His poor healers. All he had to do was sit back a bit.

[mild thunder]

wannabe enh shaman

i had an ele shaman in my lobby yesterday that did almost half of the next person's damage... idk how you mess up that badly as ele

it wasnt even a melee-heavy lobby, it was frost mage, ret, ele and me

[sharp meteor]

Some streamer was yelling at my Enh for being in melee range the whole game before noticing on round 5 that he wasn't Ele.

[mild thunder]

streamer moment

[jagged cedar]

What classes have one shots to lookout for when learning pvp ?

I feel like unh just is so overwhelming on their gos

[mild thunder]

actual oneshots, or just scary burst?

[sharp meteor]

uhhh almost every spec

i wanna say grab mes weakaura pack and go from there

honk honk equals dam

[jagged cedar]

Guess both but scary bursts I can kinda stop but I was looking out for classes that can insta kill you

[mild thunder]

single globals, it's probably only 4-5 specs... us, devo, ret, frost mage and maybe ww

but that's not really the stuff you should worry about because it's all very heavily choreographed and avoidable

[jagged cedar]

Hmmm ok

[topaz tulip]

Just disarm them when they grab someone so they can't ravage you, or hold it and run til they're low health and disarm then

[full quiver]

On first go just fear everything once garg is out

[topaz tulip]

If they're annoyed they'll trinket it. If they don't, then the'll try casting after and you're already gone

[full quiver]

Disarm doesn't really stop my dam on unhdk

[mild thunder]

apparently it does now with the dot build

[full quiver]

Nah

[mild thunder]

according to QCP, clearly the greatest uhdk of all time

[full quiver]

I just dump my runic power during it

[topaz tulip]

this the same dk you've been shitting on for 3 days?

[mild thunder]

QCP and i have a love-hate relationship

[topaz tulip]

lmao

[full quiver]

Just fear garg go

Ezpz

[topaz tulip]

Okay so question about that. When the big bubble I don't know the name of pops up you and the pets are immune to stuns/fears aren't you? But you use that right after grab so how does that work?

[mild thunder]

the only thing that makes dk immune to fear is lichborne

they'll instantly break fear, but the garg and pets wont be able to

[full quiver]

Yeah you'll be cringe the 9 pets railing you lol

[topaz tulip]

Gotcha. If you cast fear on the dk does it still affect the pets if immune? normally there are so many numbers I can't tell when I do it

[mild thunder]

i would still recommend taking disarm into dk though... unless you really need that 3rd slot filled with something else

[full quiver]

Then you can trade parry as well if you need to and are arms

[topaz tulip]

If the question is why it's hard to see, it's because I almost never fight a dk without a lock on their team

[full quiver]

Lol

If you get hit with unholy frenzy and then disarm

Insta

[mild thunder]

have you disabled minor/minion nameplates?

[full quiver]

That can be annoying because then I can't apoc

[obtuse coral]

playing vs 3 hunters

1.6k hpals in the game

not a single freedom

im in agony

[topaz tulip]

I did. blizz grouping totems with all those dumb ass lock imps is irritating. Big nameplates made it horrifying

[mild thunder]

just bladestorm bro

[mild thunder]

they're not

[sharp meteor]

they are not

[mild thunder]

check out the video on Bicmex's channel about disabling nameplates

[sharp meteor]

and u can use custom plates to filter extra stuff

like demo portal aids

because somehow a few things slip through

[topaz tulip]

different u/i maybe?

[mild thunder]

yea, just fuck off the base settings and check out the bicmex video

download AdvancedInterfaceOptions

[topaz tulip]

gotcha

[mild thunder]

go to the cVar browser, set minions and minor to 0

and you keep guardians, pets, totems etc visible

guardians are important for stuff like psyfiend and fel obelisk

[topaz tulip]

Just finished, thanks!

[topaz tulip]

I've been swatting obelisks, but do you kill the psyfiend?

wait that might not be what I think it is

[topaz tulip]

Amazing how much just being able to see the gargoyle helped in that last match

Think it's the other way around. Was swatting psyfiend. But then you hide from obelisk?

[dusk vapor]

Hey guys, I’m kinda new over the pvp session… I looked at the pin but I can't understand which is the best build or when to use which one of them

[mild thunder]

situational

all of them can be played in any scenario, and there's still a fair bit of debate about which is best/best in each scenario

play around with them, see what you enjoy, what feels best etc

[dusk vapor]

Ok nice

Thank you

[mild thunder]

some people swear by skullsplitter, some people hate skullsplitter, some people think raw bleeds is the way... the world's your oyster

[mild thunder]

yessir

[dusk vapor]

Do you recommend any of them to start with? Maybe one that is more “general propose” or popular

[mild thunder]

psyfiend very important to kill, but you might mean mindbender

mindbender generally not worth killing unless there's nothing else to hit

[mild thunder]

spear + ms is probably the most generic/easy to use, but they're all fairly easy to pick up

but yea i'd start there

[copper hare]

I fucking hate that you have to permanently swap between minor/minions enabled and disabled when you swap between pve/pvp

[dusk vapor]

Thx ❤️

[mild thunder]

hopefully they make a ReTAB style addon for it at some point

[copper hare]

like demo lock was already annoying, but now it's even worse with netherportal etc

idk how people play against that without minor disabled

impossible

[mild thunder]

and the worst part is it feels like there's more non-player stuff to watch out for than ever as well

psyfiend + obelisk + important totems + banner + certain pets like gargoyle

[topaz tulip]

Remove army of the dead in pvp, but somehow endless lock minions is okay

[topaz tulip]

Probably, and I'll remember that. Really should finish leveling my lock so I can understand this shit but I cba to blow a token on the class I hate the most in this game

[mild thunder]

monks being able to disarm us through wall and remove our only true defensive is the most retarded mechanic in this game

[steel trout]

💯 never give up

[echo musk]

Is there any logic to how SS rating is scored? Go 4/6 rounds won and rating stays unchanged 🫠

[slender lion]

Depends on your match making rating. If its lower then you'll get little too no score even for 6 wins

[echo musk]

Ah okay that makes a little bit more sense

[hollow ore]

Yeah fuck monks

[topaz tulip]

someone shared with me today, so I share with you https://i.redd.it/8ibbhid80nfa1.png

[topaz tulip]

They can remove parry? Or did you mean something else

[mild thunder]

yep

you parry > they disarm > you no longer have parry

very nice mechanic, gg blizz

[topaz tulip]

What the fuck?

No wonder I took so much damage last match with parry up

literally finding out match after i got ran through by a monk that was disarming me

[mild thunder]

technically you can do it as well, but we actually have to disarm from behind/the side