pvp

[grand scaffold]

sks

is the wave

[native thunder]

Had to call it quits after that lobby. That was my “one more game” after a few other bad shuffles haha

[grand scaffold]

oh dang

sorry bro

[native thunder]

All good. I thought my UI was bugging when it showed two tanks lol

Had to check their talents to be sure 😂

[mild thunder]

id go spri before a devoker

better chance of stopping sp dmg than devo

better uptime too... a good devoker is incredibly slipperyh

[grand scaffold]

idk man i always focus devokers

they so quishy

squishy*

and it stops quite a lot of dmg

i swap off when they hover

no hover = focus

i go for evoker too

when they dont have hover up

if they have hover i dont bother

[steel trout]

No 😡

[topaz tulip]

okay, evok havoc. who?

[grand scaffold]

SKS

ZUG ZUG

[mild thunder]

depends on what's on your team as well

i find havoc pretty easy to kill, but the best bet is almost always to be swapping fairly often regardless

[grand scaffold]

evoker when hover is down

when hove is up go dh

hover*

[mild thunder]

yea idk i think it's just too situational to script in any meaningful way

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but try and hit the evoker they die without hover

[mild thunder]

eh, evoker also has 2 30% walls, decent mobility outside of hover, budget alter time, shroud, and pretty good slows

i dont think they're particularly easy to kill compared to other casters

their dmg is also a bit harder to shut down since they have multiple schools to dip into

[topaz tulip]

doesn't matter, evok afk'd the last two so I went 2-6 😄

[grand scaffold]

guys

sks

is the move

devastated a destro lock

[copper hare]

https://gyazo.com/fca00779fec8cd3256a280cdfd0ca356

the classic

:D

[grand scaffold]

😂

bro i was hoping you wouldnt remember

😂

[copper hare]

that's what you call an addiction!

[grand scaffold]

hhaha

[copper hare]

I may be old but I remember everything

[lean burrow]

"you know it i know it"

asmong viewer?

[drifting jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/asmongold-asmon-smash-rage-rage-quit-gif-17838109

[lean burrow]

what a day, what a fucking day

[drifting jacinth]

Mage tower brought out the worst in a man

[copper hare]

nah

[drifting jacinth]

asmonbased

[obtuse coral]

@grand scaffold you were right

sks absolutely destroys

using it on someone thats at like 50% if you have cs on them they just die and dont expect it

i did lose like 150 rating in the last few games but after i swapped over easy 5-1

[grand scaffold]

ikr

its so awesome

[grand scaffold]

yeah

mage tower makes people do thingsa

[drifting jacinth]

I had to go big autism on that shit

Lost an entire week

[obtuse coral]

same

got every single one

[drifting jacinth]

Now I’m riding knowledge

[obtuse coral]

only done it on my warrior since the new one came out

[drifting jacinth]

Is it easier now?

[obtuse coral]

i did the fury one in like 5 tries

[topaz tulip]

did you actually need all the gem gear or did you use something else?

[obtuse coral]

No I just used the gear I had

No cringe min max stuff just pure skill 😎

[topaz tulip]

bruh

I was getting 2shot at some points on fury ;-;

also talking about legion stuff, if anyone hasn't gotten eche'ro, the quest for it is up this week

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-skill-issue-gif-21867945

[lean burrow]

can I accept quest and not do it without it disappearing?

[copper hare]

hahahaha

[topaz tulip]

If only. It's like the weeklies in valdrakken, if you don't do it before it starts the next quest you lost it

I also don't know if it started this week or last because I wasn't paying attention. You have two weeks to complete these quests normally though for this side up

[grand scaffold]

ive run into the same shitter disc priest over and over again

[topaz tulip]

Not like fury has more than one defensive lol

[grand scaffold]

he has a vendatta towards me

only plays well on enemy team

[topaz tulip]

Does putting them on ignore not keep them from popping up with you?

[grand scaffold]

nope

that would be nice tho

just ignore every bad player on earth

[steel trout]

ignore every caster

[grand scaffold]

ive reported the guy like 2x

and nothing has happened

like i didnt win 1 game with him

then the ret gets 1 shotted on my team no immune or bop used

bam

2/4

[copper hare]

that means we have to play melee cleave only :<

[grand scaffold]

exactly

very fun

[copper hare]

no!

[grand scaffold]

why

melee cleaves are super fun

[kindred viper]

ok then

[lean burrow]

ok im doing it right now, doesn't seem too bad with druid's op travel form

use legion surveying enchant for fast surveying

[fickle forge]

Man, if only fury was viable for mage tower

[high star]

why cant i use neck enchant on conq neck?

[steel trout]

neck enchant?

[high star]

the sockets

[steel trout]

is it still bugged

u cant even add 1 or?

[high star]

ya

has 0 sockets

i have another neck with different stats also conq neck that i was able to use i ton

little confused lol

[severe basin]

Rekt noob that’s a 3s cast you didn’t interrupt gg

[topaz tulip]

You just reminded me the sad thing about having race changed from regular dwarf ;-; no more archeology bonus

[primal cloud]

Some sort of bug. Apparently adding it to the actionbar will allow you to interact with it

[mild thunder]

void tendril

is fucking retarded

doesnt break if you kill it

doesnt break on damage

[obtuse coral]

guy in my last game mad he cant win because of how bad people are

like we dont both have the same team mates?

[mild thunder]

cry me a fucking river

fotm cuck

go find another retarded 2 button OP spec to soycry over

[obtuse coral]

yeah

i dont think you drop that hard because of bad luck

maybe like 100-150 points sure

but the only consistent factor on all those games were himself

also is there any easy way to target totems? im having so much trouble killing counter strikes and the like when there is 100 dk or warlock minions on top of me

[primal cloud]

Plater has an option to show only player nameplates and totem nameplates

[topaz tulip]

That's real interesting

[obtuse coral]

i'll probably start using plater again

[copper hare]

Download the addon NugTotemIcon, makes totems way easier to spot

You still have to click it tho ofc

[topaz tulip]

Idk I fell from 1700-just under 1k in like 10 games with almost every death of my own being in the first two losses. 48 rounds of healers getting blown up, dps that gets 1shot - can only do so much. But that's probably not the same issue he had.

[mild thunder]

you can also just enable/disable certain nameplates via the cVar browser on advancedinterfaceoptions

bicmex has a vid on it

[topaz tulip]

Yeah but even if you disable the pet names you still click on them sometimes instead of the totem

Does larger nameplates help with that or something?

[mild thunder]

larger nameplates definitely helps

also helps you see when totems or stuff like psyfiend is down

[obtuse coral]

yeah its just all the useless ghouls and shit everywhere or imps that make it so hard to see anything

like i dont need to know that imp #19 is casting fireball

[obtuse coral]

do you know where that option is?

nevermind got it!

[primal cloud]

Oh

[obtuse coral]

haha

but whats teh difference between guardians pets and minions

[mild thunder]

turn off minor and minion

keep on the rest

[primal cloud]

I downloaded Plater, screenshat it, opened it in Paint, and uploaded it here for nothing

[obtuse coral]

alright cheers

[obtuse coral]

i appreciate the effort ♥️

[topaz tulip]

If you're on windows, windows+shift+s will let you snip, puts it in your clipboard, and then you just paste in chat

I'm sure mac has a similar function

[primal cloud]

Yeah, that's what I did. Except I stopped by Paint to add the red squares

[inner elbow]

im so torn between spear and roar

tried both and idk which i prefer

or is it situational?

[peak hawk]

what's the point of solo shuffle

you literally face 3/4 Casters every game

[steel trout]

for shuffle

?

[primal cloud]

I like roar. Spear is like the most noticeable and known cooldown currently in the game. Might as well add a macro that /s I'm popping my cooldowns!
People are less likely to notice when roar is popped on the contrary

[mild thunder]

thats why you use spear to bait CDs

[primal cloud]

200 IQ move

and pepul sey warrior are stuppid

[steel trout]

shuffle dam is king roar less counter and more dam 🤓

[undone pumice]

common galachad w

[inner elbow]

mainly for shuffle but also bgs

[muted surge]

If you use the snippet function on windows it lets you draw on the screenshot :>

[surreal compass]

Hey peoples
why are Kul Tiran with their racial brush it off OR Mechagnome with Combat analysis + Emergency Failsafe dont get mentioned more as best pvp races ?
Id think those are pretty dece

Can someone explain why that is ?

[primal cloud]

Eh, learning something new is too much effort for me 😄
Sometimes when I'm feeling fancy, I like to open the screenshot in Photoshop and add fancy frames, shadows, and gradients

[obtuse coral]

mechagnome doesnt scale to dragonflight for some reason so its shit

plus no one wants to play a mechagnome

[surreal compass]

im a gnome tho

[obtuse coral]

gnomes are great

mechagnomes are cringe

diaper babies

[surreal compass]

lol

howbout chonky boys Kul Tiran ?

[lean burrow]

what if they just sit spear

[obtuse coral]

think there are just better options tbc

1% vers is alright but the heal is pretty much a null factor

[surreal compass]

Oh i thought that'd be quite decent, like overall

[obtuse coral]

its not quite a counter an assassination rogues entire burst good

[surreal compass]

nothing is

[obtuse coral]

dwarf is :p

[surreal compass]

dwarf looks poopoo

i refuse

[obtuse coral]

you can play whatever you want

i play nelf cause i like elfs :)

[surreal compass]

i know, we just talkin g

might do a cheeky race change to chonky boys and see how that goes

is the Mechagnome not scaling to df intended ?

[obtuse coral]

i do really like kul tirans especially with the heritage set

doubt it

but no one plays the race so doubt blizzard care haha

[surreal compass]

I WOULD

[surreal compass]

bet, they look bad

[obtuse coral]

i also fucking love female humans because of how large 2h weps are on them

[surreal compass]

2h weaps

also I think the Mechagnome was fixed :
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/10l2vt5/stealth_fix_to_mechagnome_racial_combat_analysis/

dont tell me this dont look sick

[obtuse coral]

oh nice

[primal cloud]

Ima say it. It doesn't look sick

[surreal compass]

[topaz tulip]

Compared to humans having a free medallion that doesn't share it's cd, why care?

[surreal compass]

but it does share cd (?)\

[grand scaffold]

kultiran is one of the best

but like

[obtuse coral]

Yeah it shares cd and only removes stuns

[grand scaffold]

mechagnome is fugly

[topaz tulip]

Can't you still eqquip the passive one and get the active from racial?

[grand scaffold]

and kultirans have a big gut

hard to tmog

[obtuse coral]

Yeah but only being able to remove stuns it’s pretty restrictive

[topaz tulip]

Fair. Don't play humans rn so haven't had to worry about it

Somebody said dwarves are ugly but that di racial is dope

[obtuse coral]

Yeah dwarfs aren’t my thing but the racial is so good

But looks matter more to me

[surreal compass]

dwarfves are built like a square, fugly as

[surreal compass]

no u

[topaz tulip]

There are a lot of armor sets I can't stand looking at on a dwarf, but some of them actually come out alright

[grand scaffold]

bro stop trying to justify mechagnome

they look grose

[mild thunder]

Aesthetic > racial

[grand scaffold]

^

[slender lion]

someones gotta know how too remove the resource bar lol

[mild thunder]

If/when assa gets nerfed, dark iron won’t be that great anymore anyway

[grand scaffold]

all racials are viable tbh

why not

just use the racial for dmg

[lean burrow]

plater options

[mild thunder]

The big emphasis from dark iron right now is being able to counter deathmark

[slender lion]

I KNOW lol

[mild thunder]

Deathmark less scary > dark iron drops off

[slender lion]

that bit was blatently obvious

[lean burrow]

how do they counter deathmark btw?

they can't trinket stun

[slender lion]

but fucking where

[mild thunder]

They can purge all bleeds off themselves. It’s only a 30sec stun share

[lean burrow]

yeah, they get kidneyd-shiv-deathmark

what do they press then?

[steel trout]

they bress dark iron

[lean burrow]

they don't die in kidney?

[mild thunder]

Just bladestorm the stun bro

[steel trout]

depends

u can also trinket bitter impending to remove deathmark wound piss 💯

[lean burrow]

if it requires external from healer then what's the point of racial

[steel trout]

cuz u remove pressure when ur out of stun

[mild thunder]

If only that actually did anytbing

[steel trout]

it lowkey does

[mild thunder]

Shit gets reapplied instantly

And the bleeds are all the damage

[steel trout]

yes ofc u need to press something more vs deathmark

but what u gonna do

[lean burrow]

supposedly shiv hemotoxin gets purged

[mild thunder]

Ngl I very rarely get deathmarked anyway

[lean burrow]

just look through the options

there's not a lot of them

[mild thunder]

It’s almost always on my feral

[grand scaffold]

disarm

[steel trout]

yea

[slender lion]

there is tho

[steel trout]

but dark iron

is best race by far

in this meta

[slender lion]

theres like 30 windows

[mild thunder]

It got evasioned bro

[grand scaffold]

fear?

[slender lion]

there is enemy player plater screen, am i being blind or

[lean burrow]

some tabs are just copies of each other (enemy npc/ enemy player/ friednly etc)

[mild thunder]

If your healer is cc’d, you’re dead anyway

[steel trout]

ya u need to like pre d pre parry the deathmark go

[mild thunder]

Exactly

[topaz tulip]

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#fv80z0zJ89c8av8MmR8Vy83j8Vx83v8Vt83S8Vg808Vv808o3808Vn83u877TFj7MFjM808FFs808FT387VFjm808FT5808Fjc808Fjz808FT487q

[steel trout]

then dark iron out

[lean burrow]

screenshot all your scripts in plater

and all your mods

it's probably mod

[mild thunder]

You can’t react to death mark, you need to predict it

If you’re reacting, you lost

[topaz tulip]

Honestly think some of these sets are better on dwarves than some of the others. Although a dwarf def can't put everything on

[surreal compass]

freaking short legs man

chonky short elephant legs is the issue i think

I hate them ):

[tulip sail]

guys

[obtuse coral]

Also another thing I hate about dwarfs is the accent

[topaz tulip]

Oh okay, cuz daddy long legs over here pulls the set off so much better https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#fq80z0zJ89c8aC8Mmw8dn808Mb8gh8Mr8Mhc8Md8gF8Mf8er8Mw8Mi38q5808bs808bk808q1877IFj7MFjM808FFs808FT387VFjm808FT5808Fjc808Fjz808FT487q

[tulip sail]

what build is the best nowadays for arms im confused

[steel trout]

ms build with spear or roar 💯

sks fine too

u can pick what u prefer

[slender lion]

not in mods

[topaz tulip]

Don't even get me started on pandas

[tulip sail]

ty

[obtuse coral]

I’ve been playing sks and I really like it

[surreal compass]

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#fg80z0zJ89c8qU8Mwh8fH808ft808wC808wn808Vq81Z8wh808Vs81v8VR81x8Va81J8Vb82M8fZ808ba8Mua877wFj7MFjM808FFs808FT387VFjm808FT5808Fjc808Fjz808FT487q

[slender lion]

my brother

i thank you

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-office-thank-thank-you-thanks-gif-25386923

[lean burrow]

it was script?

[surreal compass]

thats draenei tho, wth

[slender lion]

it was a mod

[mild thunder]

imagine not picking race based on female damage taken noise

[topaz tulip]

I hope that's not supposed to be why kultirans are somehow better, cuz I wasn't here for fat thor and I"m def not here for that

[surreal compass]

yea i back it, not a fan either

[topaz tulip]

[surreal compass]

i mean draenei were never mentioned in this convo idk why they involved

[steel trout]

use imorph 💯

[topaz tulip]

You're complaining about legs so I gave you the longest legs. Also, aren't you the one who was posting mechagnomes? Mechagnomes and gnomes are okay with their short legs but not dwarves?

[surreal compass]

chonky elepahnt short legs

[topaz tulip]

those are the legs you would have if you stopped skipping leg day

[surreal compass]

but yes precisely, they are tiny and their tiny legs are suitable

door looking dwarfs, no

even fat thor has long legs

man i dont even know why im talking transmog i was only interested in racials

rip

[topaz tulip]

lmao

[obtuse coral]

I’d rather just never hear another dwarf talk

[topaz tulip]

yall really got dwarves all fucked up but like gnomes. I didn't know there was such a people in existence

[obtuse coral]

I swear every game with dwarfs they have bad accents

[surreal compass]

I thought imorph was banable

[steel trout]

i never got banned

[topaz tulip]

I guess this is like a 4-5 hr grind. Got half way with ss matches in between, here we are 3 hrs later. Bad luck with the spirits i guess

[topaz tulip]

Honestly does sound a little off, but then the voice change for di I like it.

[obtuse coral]

I just hate fake Scottish accents

[lean burrow]

what spirits

isn't it just digging

each dug out loot gives 1-3 bones for quest

[warm portal]

WoW sucks you guys should play dark and darker

[lean burrow]

escape from darkov

[undone pumice]

dota 2

[fickle forge]

Ring of Titans

😎👍

[undone pumice]

[jagged cedar]

Very new to pvp. Looking to farm the set. Maybe eventually push glad if possible after learning. What spec do you guys recommend for pvping. Mostly arena

[undone pumice]

arms

[quasi zephyr]

3s 1600 def feeling like 2100.

[sharp meteor]

2200 3s right now roughly equivalent to 3k rating in unchained

jus to kind of put things into perspective

[quasi zephyr]

Damn

[digital hazel]

so is slam worth using again or nah?

[tribal wedge]

probably not

[sharp meteor]

usually have overpower or mortal strike to press already

feels kind of awkward getting slams in

[shy geyser]

use rend when u feel like slamming

[full quiver]

Where ya get data for this

Are you basing it off cut off for top 1k

[shy geyser]

I think people are just realizing that wow is 20 years old and we cant farm shitters to get to 2k anymore

[sharp meteor]

[sharp meteor]

we can just in shoofle

[shy geyser]

haha

[sharp meteor]

wonder if they just nuke shuffle mmr next mini patch

and/or prop up 2v2/3v3

[full quiver]

Lol

[native thunder]

how am I getting another prot pally shuffle fuuu

[amber monolith]

Hi there, I'm using Tab targeting. Q: Is there a way that pets/summons can't be on the tab rotation?

[sharp meteor]

can't u set tab to only target players

[steel trout]

its a bind now ye

[native thunder]

This game is trolling me

[amber monolith]

Perfect thank you! I'll try this.

[native thunder]

I have 3 tanks in my shuffle

[sharp meteor]

have fun lmao

[primal cloud]

Let me guess; Discipline Priest, Unholy Death Knight, and an Affliction Warlock

[native thunder]

two prot pally and a brew monk

how is that even possible

[sharp meteor]

prot palas are healers

[primal cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/quotation-marks-air-quotes-dr-evil-autstin-powers-mike-myers-gif-6227353

[sharp meteor]

i mean for the purposes of matchmaking

then brew is considered a normal tank aka a dps

with a limit of 1

[sharp meteor]

sometimes that's just how it be

[native thunder]

First game back on this morning and I get a 3 tank shuffle lobby lol

Back to back tank lobbies though?

This game hates me

[nimble scarab]

Is embellishments worth considering in pvp?

[steel trout]

u use pvp helm + boots

[primal cloud]

What rating are you playing on? I've legitamtaiely never seen two of the same specs in the same Solo Shuffle

Wait, nevermind, I've played with double Discipline, come to think of it

[nimble scarab]

Ahh craftet?

pve player, i know nothing

[native thunder]

I was trying to hit 2k and have tanked to 1580 now...

[nocturne snow]

i'm hard stuck in 1400 cr, send help :'v

[primal cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-spongebob-naked-gif-11561662

[native thunder]

If I get a 3 back to back tank lobbies I am uninstalling this game

[primal cloud]

I'm gonna hold you to that

[hazy isle]

damn

[frank knoll]

[frank knoll]

Gnomes are supposed be based on irl redditors

[steel trout]

its crazy how dead 3s are

played against same 4 teams at 2.1

[fossil mortar]

4 free wins then

[steel trout]

2 teams free win 1 auto lose 1 50/50...

1h same shit

[frank knoll]

3s are dead cause of shuffle

[steel trout]

yes ik but

its insane how at even 2.1 its this dead

[fossil mortar]

Shuffle is more fun tho. No longer 2 hours to form a group that disbands pre first game

[steel trout]

shuffle is so different

its just a dam simulator

[frank knoll]

Why would I want to do play sweaty games at like 1600 when I could just queue into solo shuffle and play against people my skill level

[steel trout]

they need to deflate shuffle and inflate 3s

[frank knoll]

I wish they just did regular 2s or 3s solo queue instead of this new game mode

[fossil mortar]

Let 3s die

[steel trout]

no that would be so bad

[fossil mortar]

The day 2v2 gets a autoque option, premades are done for

[steel trout]

they just need to inflate 3s and deflate shuffle

[elfin surge]

solo shuffle is stupid

[frank knoll]

Yeah but also most people that PvP don’t give af about sweaty 3s

They want to get conquest gear so they can smash people in random BGs

[steel trout]

u can cap without touchign arena

[fossil mortar]

Well, it is more the work to play that is too sweaty. Think everyone want to play, just not spend hours to get. To play.

[frank knoll]

Solo shuffle provides an easy way to get conquest and honor fast

Also a lot of them think shuffle is real arena

[frank knoll]

That takes way longer

[steel trout]

not rly

[fossil mortar]

Could fix it by having a qué system combined with the premade system. That way boosters still get to sell their stuff efficiently

[steel trout]

NO

how would u even do that

u would get random comps vs ppl who are premade playing real comps?

[fossil mortar]

Why don't noone think of the boosters!

[steel trout]

or people who want to play 3s and not have a dead ladder 🤪

[fossil mortar]

Join solo shuffle. Reduce the timers for the rest. One of us. One of us!

[frank knoll]

So what that sounds better than shuffle

Roll the dice, or play in a real comp

Warrior fits almost anywhere regardless

[steel trout]

its just even more rng

than shuffle

at that point

and shuffle is rng already

[frank knoll]

How

[steel trout]

comp rng

[frank knoll]

Yeah but atleast you have the option to play a real comp with people

Every other competitive game seems to have rated solo queue figured out

[steel trout]

wow pvp is very unique

im not saying solo shuffle should go away

just dont make it so u can get all rewards for free just by queueing shuffle lol

[frank knoll]

You can’t get glad

That’s the only reward that matters

[steel trout]

a lot of ppl play for rewards below glad level

no reason for them to touch 3s at all now

[inner skiff]

For the first time I got hard focused as a fury war and I’m not sure how to handle double mage+disc priest. Couldn’t stick on anything….

[fossil mortar]

Go arms

[frank knoll]

Yeah man fury gameplay is a race of who can KO who the fastest

[inner skiff]

Not sure how that would have helped given every time I tried to get on anyone thry’d just frost nova and. Link away.

*blink

[grand scaffold]

gross

bro

this is just luck

[frank knoll]

Try and line their damage and stay by ur healer, take bloodrage talent for roots

[inner skiff]

Yeah I take blood rage. Just wasn’t enough.

[frank knoll]

Double mage is tough with no banner, bladestorm ignore pain etc

[stark stump]

I'm relatively new to warrior pvp and can't really decide between fury or arms to start and master. Is there a preferred one for bgs and arena?

[steel trout]

arms much better in arena

[inner skiff]

But again, I was getting hard focused. Was solo shuffle and even when it swapped around the arms warrior would go in on me hard with the other dps.

Got to the point I was staying behind my team to try and force them to engage in someone else and they’d just blow past them.

[fossil mortar]

Arms is tankier and got more tools. Also got more burst for when you connect. Also bladestorm

[inner skiff]

I don’t understand the more burst. People keep saying it. I’m not seeing it. It’s got more sustained burst, but I burst much harder on fury. Cannot for the life of me figure out what I’m doing wrong given everyone says arms bursts harder.

[grand scaffold]

no way

if you have a solo shuffle vs a premade group thats just chaos

[inner skiff]

Wait….. potential stupid question: war tree for arms. Do we take avatar activated blade storm and vice versa, or CS/Avatar activate reckless?

[steel trout]

depends on matchup

and ur build

vs non pet classes and u play ms build u want bladestorm

if u play sks or vs pet classes usually u take warlord

[inner skiff]

Wait, why warlord against pet classes?

[steel trout]

because pets eat unhinged

[inner skiff]

And my playstyle comes from playing fury mostly. In, do as much damage as I can to force cooldowns, then soon as their wall is down, pop CD’s and melt

[steel trout]

ur not gonna force cds without cooldowns urself

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[fossil mortar]

Think of the boosters damn you

[grand scaffold]

i dont mind being against boosters

just focus the terrible player

[grand scaffold]

they already have 3's

let them stick to that

[fossil mortar]

3s are dead, that is the thread of conversation you commenting on

[grand scaffold]

good

boosters dont deserve stuff

[steel trout]

its not good

that 3s is dead

ndogo

[grand scaffold]

thats not what i meant

😂

[fossil mortar]

[undone pumice]

if u really want to get boosted nothing is gonna stop u lol

give em ur acc info for them to boost u in solo

or queue at a random time like 8 am and q at same time

[grand scaffold]

its not good to do tho

like if you do that shame on you

[native thunder]

Sit in front of computer 30min que Walk away to grab a drink 1min que lol

[grand scaffold]

yooo

whenever that que goes right when you afk

dont que again

everytime i qued again after that i lost cr

i just take it as a sign

😂

[native thunder]

😂 just my luck haha

Did you see that screenshot I posted earlier

[grand scaffold]

nah

can you link it?

[native thunder]

First game back this morning and got a 3 tank shuffle lobby

[undone pumice]

train ur dog to grab you a drink

thats what im trying to do

[grand scaffold]

bro

[undone pumice]

so far he can open doors both ways now

[grand scaffold]

whenever i get something like that happen to me

i just dont que

i think working out is best idea

[native thunder]

#pvp message

[grand scaffold]

then you atleast hype to win the next one

[undone pumice]

ye

[grand scaffold]

how stupid

blizzard bullying

[undone pumice]

train ur dog to grab u a beer and while ur dog is struggling with the fridge bang out a couple bicep curls or whatever

[grand scaffold]

yeah

literally do something else if que goes while you afk

also if you que into someone that throws games like tentacles the disc priest

he has a lot of funny letters in his name

first of all

dont say anything

whisper the dps who you wanna focus

and quit queing for a while

[undone pumice]

wot

[grand scaffold]

bro

this one guy

i que into severally

hates me

no apparent reason

[undone pumice]

in general with ranked queues esp solo qs i just q until i get a loss and stop playing for the day then

[grand scaffold]

uses dome before gates open everytime

only on my team btw

ive qued into him like 4 times

[earnest wharf]

other than weapons are trinkets the highest dps gain per conquest like in PVE?

[undone pumice]

racist disc priest

[grand scaffold]

no way

[grand scaffold]

quite possibly

but my username is balboa

[earnest wharf]

what's the best pieces to upgrade first?

[grand scaffold]

rings imo

actually no

tier set

get pvp tier set

[earnest wharf]

the bots are playing AWC RN btw, the brewmaster ARms team

[undone pumice]

rings give an insane amount of secondary stats but no mainstats

[grand scaffold]

not on helmet

[grand scaffold]

i like secondaries

😂

[undone pumice]

ye

idk i havent played in a bit but i kinda feel like i wanna come back ngl

arms is unleashed now ye?

[grand scaffold]

if you play sks

[undone pumice]

ignore pain and 21s sweep?

[grand scaffold]

sks is fucking amazing

nah

strength of arms

overpower trucks

[undone pumice]

ye but 21s sweep into cleaves is a hate crime

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but into most comps strength of arms

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERSSSSKlSSAAAAABRiAJAR0okkQSoJRIBgEJAAAAAAAAkQCCA0QA

try this when you play again

im having success into frost mages with it

my last game was demo frost bm

went 4-2

[undone pumice]

skullsplitter still kinda felt like cbt last time i played

[grand scaffold]

idk what cbt is

[earnest wharf]

if i have 415-418 4 piece from M+ and 418 PVE weapons already, do rings and neck first?

[grand scaffold]

but im slapping the shit out of people with it

[undone pumice]

cock and ball torture

[grand scaffold]

lmao

atm its pretty good tbh

[earnest wharf]

when we convert the 424 PVP pieces into Tier it's the same piece as PVE pieces just different ilvl right?

damn brewmaster/Arms team lost, but still in 3rd place and down to lower bracket

[undone pumice]

just get tier, crafted infurious helmet and boots, and rest conq gear

[earnest wharf]

cool thx

[fair tide]

you stacking haste for it?

[grand scaffold]

no

crit all the way

[hot solstice]

ahahhahahahhhahaha

MW ARMS BMONK winin vs whazz on awc

[earnest wharf]

1-1 Arms vs Whazz, great games

[thick reef]

2-1

they want thomas to be dwarf i think

[native thunder]

Why blizz

just why

[hazy isle]

Rip

[native thunder]

I have no clue how I went 4-2 in that lobby lol

[frank knoll]

Yeah sks is good but I’m winning more games with spear

[native thunder]

I play better with spear as well

[elfin surge]

might be time to level the 4th warrior boys

[frank knoll]

Most neurodivergent thing I’ve seen today

[native thunder]

Holy warriors 😂

[elfin surge]

problem ?

[native thunder]

I respect it

[vagrant gulch]

did something switch after the changes? or are we still going crit into mastery

[junior crow]

how is the arms 4set? currently have two charges and wondering on which of my alts to use them

[elfin surge]

Crit > Haste, we've never went into mastery.

[elfin surge]

4 set pretty good put it on all besides helm.
Charges are per character, should be able to get 4 set on fresh 70 instantly next week.

[junior crow]

thanks, you mean they change it so next week if I have 2 charges I can use 2 on each character? sorry did not understand this part

[elfin surge]

Yeah

[junior crow]

ohh nice, what happens if I used them this week? or better to wait until this change next reset?

[elfin surge]

doing the quest gives all your characters including future 70s one charge up to a max of 6.

[full quiver]

Hope u r well @elfin surge

😘

[elfin surge]

Doesnt matter really, next week will be our 4th reset which means 4 set for every character.

[elfin surge]

missed u

[junior crow]

ok so far I thought if you use a charge it will be "depleted" so I had to choose on which char I wanted to use them

[vagrant gulch]

ah ok thanks, i was just thinking because of gems on neck

but i went crit versa should be fine no?

[elfin surge]

yeah

Gearing for arms is pretty simple. As long as it has vers and doesnt have mastery its good.

[vagrant gulch]

aiight

[elfin surge]

most stack crit, few stack haste and some play a mix of both. Doesnt matter

[vagrant gulch]

i am chilling with 29% crit 11haste and 16mastery

[elfin surge]

Yeah I would say to try to stay above 10% haste when stacking crit which i think u just get from defaulted off pieces that dont have crit

[vagrant gulch]

are we actually using Slam now after the buffs? or still Rend/ignore Pain for OP reset

[vagrant gulch]

yessir

[elfin surge]

Slam does damage but you need to put so many talents into it and it doesnt seem worth. Havent seen many warriors playing slam builds

Most are still playing rend

[vagrant gulch]

ah ok nice, ye havent skilled into it ether

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Blackrock/Cromkar skilled like that

[elfin surge]

Yeah I've tried the slam build and tbh its still pretty ass. I hardly found myself in the situation to press slam so putting 5 talents into buffing a filler ability i pressed 4 times, not ideal.

[vagrant gulch]

ye understandable

[elfin surge]

Mag'Har orc

[delicate ginkgo]

stream arena

[vagrant gulch]

we got a problem with Mag'har

[elfin surge]

Weak.

[full quiver]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

Upright Mag'har.

[vagrant gulch]

Fuck Green Orcs, brown orcs are the real ones

[thick reef]

Kekw mag'har

rofl

[delicate ginkgo]

brown orcs are not even real. they are from a branching timeline altenatite universie that is non cannon

now stream mr Mud

😡

[thick reef]

True LOL

[elfin surge]

i am retired

[thick reef]

Yea mud stream

for us

[delicate ginkgo]

🫵 🧙‍♂️

[thick reef]

cap ur young blood

[elfin surge]

how about

u guys stream

and ill watch

😎

[delicate ginkgo]

[steel trout]

free coaching?

[thick reef]

sure

[steel trout]

[thick reef]

[flat tide]

Washed up

[quick carbon]

bring back old shockwave pls

[mild thunder]

Bring back old dragons roar

[sage raptor]

Bring back gladstance

[lucid walrus]

throwdown

[obtuse coral]

this lobby was the least fun ive had in a while

but finally realised i just needed to go zugzug

[native thunder]

Find your kill target and shove your weapon up his

[obtuse coral]

just playing vs 2 warlocks and an ele it feels like you dont actually do anything

[native thunder]

A lot of pillar time haha

[rotund trellis]

so SKS is the new slam now?

[elfin surge]

You just demonstrated you have no idea how Warrior works.

Before he warbreakers and tries to burst, he requires a minimum of 4 globals spent just on priming it beforehand

hamstring once in range
initial MS for Deep Wounds boost
Overpower
Overpower again
And this doesnt even mention spear/storm bolt/defensives he has to use to not die while on you and exposed to your teammate(s).

It isnt “he touched me and i died”. You let him sit on you and/or wasted your escapes before he Smash/WB’d.

You want to screw his burst window up every time without fail? Run roots. Fade when he uses Smash/Breaker to slip the string and start moving, then Root him. Breaker window is max 13 seconds. Every second he wastes getting back onto you is a second he isnt bursting. If he charges you and is running warbringer? Congrats, bolt is 1/2 DR which barely makes it a globals worth of stun eith Resolve.

If he isnt running warbringer? Fear him. Sure he breaks it, but thats valuable time ticking away during his burst window. Every global he ISNT on you is a global where time is on YOUR side, not his.

Suck it up buttercup, treat it like you would any other stun you can see coming. Its a short stun, not Mjolnir. Treat Spear like you would Smoke Bomb or Ring of Frost. Do you expect to sit in one of those for the full duration getting bursted on and survive without blowing a defensive? Are you that spoiled and entitled?

Start using your brain to think about things other than crying for people who arent you to get destroyed by daddy blizzard for forcing you to accept youre not a god.

@fickle forge

[lucid walrus]

where did the idea that roots and stuns DR come from

[full quiver]

Ofc they dr when they're the same family in charge

Idiot

[wheat jay]

Would be so nice to get kidneyed into full cheap into full cheap into full cheap into full cheap into another kidney into full cheap into full cheap into full cheap into another kidney and so on

[sharp meteor]

buff assa all dots no borst

[lucid walrus]

no, i mean DRing each other

should’ve clarified

[full quiver]

I understood

Artji just doesn't speak english

[mild thunder]

you CLEARLY don't understand how warrior works

[lucid walrus]

so true

[elfin surge]

Skill issue, plain and simple. Yours is lacking. Stop wasting your kiting tools.

Dont cry about being told the truth either. Be a man and accept youre the problem and then fix the problem.

[full quiver]

Go off sis

[lusty moth]

roar is superior to spear

[elfin surge]

shut up

[lean burrow]

roar+spear is based

best build

[elfin surge]

ARMS needs a huge nerf
Its crazy how much utility / defense / damage they do. Balance this crap out.

[lean burrow]

[elfin surge]

Most of their damage is in very small burst windows so it doesn’t matter if you can kite them half of the game. Whoever had the idea to make them cc immune for their largest CD missed the last set of layoffs. Also, there’s a stupid amount of modifiers to crit and mortal strike.

Their mobility is nuts. Its the most mobile class in the game. You can’t win against them. They are literal gods of the game.

[lean burrow]

those pastas are usually funnier

[full quiver]

Muds washed up

[quick carbon]

seeing ppl complain about warrior defensively

Fries me

[full quiver]

Why does warrior outheal me on dk with ignore pain

Pls nerf arms

[mild thunder]

They are literal gods of the game.

[quick carbon]

i managed to go 5-1 into double warlock mage

nerf warrior

[sage raptor]

Give arms shield barrier

[quick carbon]

wasnt shield barrier

literally

ignore pain

before ignore pain

[sage raptor]

This is unrelated

Just give arms shield barrier. Infinite stacks of IP would be nice too but if not that's cool.

[mild thunder]

give arms enraged regen

[quick carbon]

WOD ENRAGED REGEN

USABLE IN STUNS

YESSIR

[mild thunder]

2min CD, 30% wall, , 20% heal, useable while stunned

literally wouldnt even be OP

maybe nerf dbs to 20% to compensate

[sage raptor]

No compensation

[quick carbon]

bring back charge stun

and 4s shockwave

with skull banner

reck baseline

[mild thunder]

bring back 12sec charge instead of double time

[quick carbon]

shield wall as well

and 6s intervene

[sage raptor]

We don't pay for a game to compensate for what we want.

[mild thunder]

3sec intervene, but bring back safeguard + overwatch as a choice node

[sage raptor]

I want it all

[lusty moth]

i want to one shot ppl with execute

[sage raptor]

Very good

[mild thunder]

literally there should be wayyy more choice nodes with utility, especially for the warrior tree

[wheat jay]

Would be crazy strong tho

[mild thunder]

why give us shitty shockwave when you could give us GOOD shockwave on a choice node? intervene utility on a choice node, 12sec charge/double time on a choice node etc

there should 100% still be opportunity cost

[quick carbon]

yeah but

just bring back

wod warrior

games saved

[mild thunder]

true

[quick carbon]

i want wod back

[mild thunder]

im about to drop the hottest take

[sage raptor]

Gladstance will bring the people back

[quick carbon]

mud was an rmd main in wod

[mild thunder]

i would rather go back to the old mop-SL talents

because the new trees are kinda ass

[quick carbon]

no df trees better

[mild thunder]

good idea, poor execution

[quick carbon]

build variety is way better

now

[sage raptor]

We can have impending victory and stun at the same time now.

[mild thunder]

build variety is better, but id happily sacrifice build variety so certain classes (rogue), dont get literally everything in the game

[quick carbon]

variety = fun

[mild thunder]

no class should be getting everything in the old talents at the same time

[quick carbon]

fun > balance

[mild thunder]

variety = being able to pick different things
variety =/= being able to pick everything at once

[lusty moth]

the old trees are too restrictive, these trees can be expanded on with patches

[mild thunder]

can be, but they've shown no signs of peeling things back on a macro level

[sage raptor]

They'll probably be fleshed out more in coming expansions too

[mild thunder]

hopefully 11.0 brings in some restrictions, especially around cc and mobility

[sage raptor]

Like they said they would about a dozen times

[undone pumice]

common galachad W

[lusty moth]

they’ve reshuffled arms n sin trees and added additional utility into the arms tree

so they might add your charge opportunity cost bs later on dw brother 🙂

[lucid walrus]

didn’t they overhaul boomy tree like 3 months into the xpac

[mild thunder]

i care about dps nodes infinitely less than i care about classes getting too much utility/cc/defensives or whatever for free

[sage raptor]

And reworked pally trees too

And the ret spec as a whole

[lusty moth]

i don’t play gay classes

[sage raptor]

I'm giving examples

[lusty moth]

ok fruitloop

[mild thunder]

variety in dps rotation is easier to manage because it can be tuned
classes getting 3x as much mobility as they had 6 months ago is not as easy to tune

[sage raptor]

I don't play pally lol

[lucid walrus]

one of the dangers of longform trees like this is that they don’t work w/o opportunity cost

[mild thunder]

yes

[lucid walrus]

not every class /should/ have everything

[lusty moth]

denial

[mild thunder]

common endothermic W

[lucid walrus]

☻

[sage raptor]

Why is it black?

[lucid walrus]

it’d be nice to have more utility but on occasion i just play hardmode w/ running 2 defensive pvp talents

[wheat jay]

Survi got some big variety

[lusty moth]

light theme user

[wheat jay]

Cant play fun talents cuz theyre on a choice node competing with mandatory talents

[mild thunder]

is it just me, or is there also little-to-no defensive creep in this game? mobility creep, dmg creep and cc creep are all massively out of hand, but when was the last time warrior got a meaningful defensive added to our kit

and no, IP does not count because it was a pruned ability from 3 months ago

[lucid walrus]

defensive creep comes almost solely from unpruning i’d say

[wheat jay]

Basically, ye

So does dmg and cc creep tbh

All your cc is something that's already been in the game

On every class

[mild thunder]

definitely feels like there's a greater emphasis on cc and dmg tho

and mobility

[lucid walrus]

with shadowlands’ trinket bonus, it also made offensive vers values greatly outscale defensive vers

[wheat jay]

All your dmg cooldowns are unpruned shit

Mobility is same as before for everyone

[mild thunder]

true, i was also extremely disappointed with the utter lack of fresh stuff in DF

[wheat jay]

Just some classes now have Access to cc they needed to spend talent row on

[mild thunder]

and not even a lack of fresh stuff, a lack of their ability to look back before SL

[lusty moth]

bladestorm parry when tbh

[wheat jay]

Easier to spend one out of 30 than one out of 3

[sage raptor]

IM N-NOT A LIGHT TH-THEME USER I SWEAR!!!

[lusty moth]

the face was white for me brother

[mild thunder]

there are <5 nodes in the arms and warrior tree that were not around in some manner in SL

which is lame as balls

[wheat jay]

Or there since mop?

[lusty moth]

only so many ways you can warrior my friend

[wheat jay]

Ye

Last time they did a rework for warrior people sperged out on forums about how you needed to press TWO skills in one global

So they reworked it again, into spamming 2 abilities over and over

And about defensives

Right now most of the defensives warriors used to have would be useless

Because they fit a slow meta

Fast paced and bursty meta favours % dmg reduction

Not % heal like old second wind

That's why disc with like 10 externals is so good xD

[quick carbon]

bring back

shield wall

for arms

[lusty moth]

why add more defensives tho

[obtuse coral]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wheat jay]

Arms has already enough defensives

[quick carbon]

1900cr in 3s is 2400 in shuffle

[wheat jay]

Nah

[quick carbon]

thats what my research finds

[wheat jay]

1600

[delicate ginkgo]

they just need to make dstance 20%dr

simple

[quick carbon]

then make it 20% less dam

dealt

[wheat jay]

Was broken before

Would be even more broken now tbh

[quick carbon]

then make it

15/15

or

10/10

aanything

[delicate ginkgo]

make die by the sword actualy counterattack.

and make it 40% instead of 30

[quick carbon]

parry is fine

rally is fine

ip is fine

warrior defensively isnt broken

but its good

[wheat jay]

Its very good

There's also the most underrated defensive

[quick carbon]

leap

is

bis

[wheat jay]

Heroic leap

[delicate ginkgo]

die by the sword not counterattacking is pruned. then they gave that to rets

[quick carbon]

defensive

ya but

who is rlly

hitting into

parry

aanyway

[wheat jay]

Rangeds

[quick carbon]

like im not just gonna waste damage into parry when i can tab his teammate

parry only counterattacked melee attacks

not ranged

so whats the point of making it counterattack

if no melee is gonna hit into it

anyway

[delicate ginkgo]

flavour

[quick carbon]

i mean i guess

just a change that wont matter

[delicate ginkgo]

otherwise just delete it and make warriors use shieldwall

[quick carbon]

??

parry is better

than shielddwall

lol

why remove parry for a worse defensive

[drifting jacinth]

I think the problem with warr defensives is it adds to the shit ton of buttons youre pressing already

[quick carbon]

i meaan how many buttons r we realistically pressing

HAMSTRINGING HERE

RENDING

OVERPOWERING HERE

MS MS MS

EXECUTE

[drifting jacinth]

cc's

[delicate ginkgo]

what they should really do is make armor meningful.

[drifting jacinth]

moving

[quick carbon]

armor is meaningful

wym

[wheat jay]

Storm bolt, W

[quick carbon]

armor reduces physical damage taken

what else woul armor do

[delicate ginkgo]

thats why the plate users die the most

hmmmm

[wheat jay]

They don't tho

[quick carbon]

most damage in the game

is magical

LOL

[wheat jay]

Magic dmg isn't mitigated by armor

[quick carbon]

magic goes through armor

[delicate ginkgo]

see, you answerd your own comment

[quick carbon]

it ALWAYS

has

[wheat jay]

Ye

[quick carbon]

IT ALWAYS

HAS

[drifting jacinth]

mages stay winnin

[quick carbon]

since VANILLA

[wheat jay]

Mages melt in seconds

[quick carbon]

magic went through armor

[wheat jay]

So do rogues

So do monks

[quick carbon]

like if u burst a leather/cloth class

they get

[wheat jay]

So do Hunters

[quick carbon]

obliterfucked

[sharp meteor]

everything too borsty rn

[drifting jacinth]

more often than not they melt you before you melt them

[quick carbon]

thats y ur healer

is thr

to keep u nice

and

frozen

no melting for u

[delicate ginkgo]

magic is energy, for energy to pass through matter it needs energy, so therfor they should make plate armor reduce magic dmg too

[quick carbon]

ya not responding to u anymore idc

[sharp meteor]

cool story meatball still killed u

[drifting jacinth]

soloing mages can be more trouble than its worth if yer mates are tarded

[wheat jay]

If you're in metal armor and you get hit with fire

Metal heats up

And you take dmg

Pure physics

[delicate ginkgo]

yeah need high heat over a long period of time

[wheat jay]

Ye, like mage doing fireballs on you

[drifting jacinth]

Jet fuel cant melt steel beams tho

[wheat jay]

Or lava bursts

[quick carbon]

i got philly

31-27

[wheat jay]

Frost mage giving you frostbite too

You should take more dmg from lightning bolt cuz you wear metal armor

[delicate ginkgo]

no. you should take 0 dmg

cos you are grounded

[drifting jacinth]

I think arms would be better defensively if leap got a 2nd charge

[delicate ginkgo]

with your boots

[quick carbon]

ur trolling

[drifting jacinth]

nope

I want it

[sharp meteor]

ehehehhehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[wheat jay]

2 charges leap LoL

[sharp meteor]

that is not

what the spec needs

[quick carbon]

play with an evoker

they give u 2 leaps

[vivid pumice]

arms would be better defensively if healers actually cleared roots

[obtuse coral]

arms would be bettter defensively if disarm didnt stop us using wall

[wheat jay]

It needs banner again

So it can oneshot again

Easy

[vivid pumice]

bring back Throwdown

[delicate ginkgo]

what they need to do is make armor stat meaningful

🙂

[drifting jacinth]

1 leap for goin mongo and 2nd leap to avoid the consequences of goin mongo

[quick carbon]

if u leap in to kill

u deserve

[high star]

seigebreaker

[quick carbon]

to die

i stand by it

[delicate ginkgo]

it's heroic leap. not cowardly leap

always leap for kill

[drifting jacinth]

listen I've said this many times

if any class can kill my class

its shit

[vivid pumice]

it's called Warrior not Worrier

[delicate ginkgo]

arms has mobility in its description

should be the most mobile

[wheat jay]

Still fhe most heroic leap goes to @fickle forge

[quick carbon]

warrior players are just like rogue players

delusional

[wheat jay]

I got stunned, then rogue shadowsteps to healer to kill him

[vivid pumice]

all pvp players are delusional

[drifting jacinth]

first off all mobility is equalized by slows

[nimble jasper]

ngl this season just seems to punish bad healers

[wheat jay]

Kargo leaps to me and intervenes me

[nimble jasper]

more than the last 2 expacs

[delicate ginkgo]

a master of arms, that has a mastery that does bleeddmg

[wheat jay]

Healer dies cuz he leapt to wrong teammate

[vivid pumice]

all pvp players are delusional and every spec is god tier except the one i'm playing at any given time

[sharp meteor]

real and true