pvp

[copper hare]

1% haste, 1% less arcane dmg taken

[teal light]

Not on use

[full sonnet]

i cant survive without bop/bubble

to assas

[copper hare]

and 5% max rage

[full sonnet]

precasted heals, 20%s, dispells, trinkets, naw

[nimble jasper]

oh hpal you need to win

in the first 2mins or so

meh

2s is a meme and is def worse cuz damp starts way sooner

and assa in damp is uhh….

[copper hare]

2s has never been worse than now

never

[full sonnet]

better nerf slaughterhouse

kekw

also 2s and 3s are super deflated

[nimble jasper]

think only healer that I’ve seen live second deathmark in 2s

[full sonnet]

cuz of solo shuffle

[nimble jasper]

is rdruid

and prevoker

[copper hare]

it was usually easy to get 2.1 or 2.4 the first week of the season in 2s, right now 2.1k you already wait 5 min for queue and then face r1 assa disc

[nimble jasper]

shamans you can still kill them opener

lmfao

if they wall before deathmark they’re just

gone

[full sonnet]

this

holy fuck

this summarizes my df experience

[nimble jasper]

2s is such a bad bracket tho

idk how anyone takes it serious

[full sonnet]

you're gating it too much

2s is a lot of fun

except for when it isnt

[nimble jasper]

im just waiting for changes to happen

and you just get farmed perma by rdruid hunter

like every expac prior

[copper hare]

I can tell you that much, they won't nerf locks, ele, rogue or mage again

we're in for a good one

[nimble jasper]

you can nerf assa

then just die in duel

100-0

[copper hare]

I rather face a good sub than a bad assa

[full sonnet]

just stripe away half of their kit

[nimble jasper]

true

[carmine vine]

u guys not happy with the state of wars right now?

[full sonnet]

and they'll be even with the other classes

[nimble jasper]

low rated players still think sub is bad

for some reason

its pure comedy

[copper hare]

Nah, I've met some big subs in shuffle

[full sonnet]

its a stupid argument to have but it's not really fun to play when rogue does what rogue does rn

[copper hare]

they wait for trinket

and then global someone

[nimble jasper]

eu is better

[copper hare]

every round xd

[nimble jasper]

mave you’re eu right

[carmine vine]

rogue is clearly overtuned.. awc says it all

[full sonnet]

also state of pala is not good for arms

[nimble jasper]

well the giant offender is numbing poison

is a 36% haste debuff

cuz brainlets combined classic client

with retail client

[full sonnet]

why is that even a thing xd

remove that, what does rogue lose

[nimble jasper]

how it worked in classic

its just spaghetti code

which rogue has alot of

[carmine vine]

does rog even have a counter?

[nimble jasper]

yeah hunters traditionally

[full sonnet]

dwarf racial xd

[nimble jasper]

not rn tho

[carmine vine]

right.. hehe

[nimble jasper]

idk 36% haste debuff effectively deletes rdruids

[fair tide]

bitter immunity and dwarf racial 😄

[copper hare]

yeah

[full sonnet]

bitter immunity doesnt dispell bleeds tho

:/

[nimble jasper]

from what I’ve noticed

eu has all the big sub players

rat avidance howton

[full sonnet]

honestly im tired of this high cc meta

[carmine vine]

as a dad gamer I'm looking for the most faceroll braindead spec possible.. kinda assumed it would be warrior, thoughts?

(for SS)

[nimble jasper]

high cc is fine….

the current burst

isnt

[full sonnet]

have one

mix em? fk no

[nimble jasper]

yeah dmg needs to be tuned down

[full sonnet]

you cant have 6 second stuns

and 100 to 0

[nimble jasper]

cc is fine for the game

not this damage

[grand tendon]

DH

[full sonnet]

i think the amount of the cc got super toxic because of how many mobile classes there are nowadays

[carmine vine]

u think DH is easier then WAR?

[nimble jasper]

hpal only does well in tourney setting atm

cuz dmg is so high

that games end quick

[carmine vine]

doesnt it have more utility to use?

[full sonnet]

play fury war

[carmine vine]

War seems more zugzug.. (I could be wrong)

[full sonnet]

you'll have fun

[nimble jasper]

dh has some

[full sonnet]

DH has some werid setups

[nimble jasper]

dh skill ceiling is higher than fury’s

unironically

[full sonnet]

it is, defo

[nimble jasper]

tho you’ll still see awful dhs who are full committed during enemy cds

then theres actual good players on dh who insta run the second you press any offensive button

[full sonnet]

nothing more annoying than a dh who knows how to kite a ret pala

cage, SIKE

wdym HOJ, sike, backflip

[nimble jasper]

lmao ret

trying to catch a dh

[full sonnet]

oh also DH has a better spell reflect

for some reason

[nimble jasper]

uhh they dont

though

reverse isnt the same

its a really good ability

[full sonnet]

Reverse is big

[carmine vine]

the sigils feel pretty bad to use

[nimble jasper]

but idk they’re entirely different ideas

[full sonnet]

Sigils are ugh

[carmine vine]

I tried DH a little bit

[nimble jasper]

sigil is fine

[carmine vine]

cuz they had the fewest buttons it seemed 😛

[nimble jasper]

spec didnt need it

you just detain someone into sigil

then stun off

[full sonnet]

ngl i liked how at least in shadowlands we had ways to improve the deffensivnes of our mates more

you had % dmg reduction in intervene

and aoe spell reflect

[nimble jasper]

overwatch was dumb

safeguard was fine

misshapen was fine since it cost a legendary slot

still niche pick

[full sonnet]

also, since im spitting acid all over the place

might as well talk about the spear

god i fucking hate this ability so much

[nimble jasper]

also you think intervene dam thing is great

[full sonnet]

imagine if you had to land aoe spell to hit kidney shot

[nimble jasper]

until you ran into a turbo or retwar that knew how to tab target

[full sonnet]

def stance/ip

[nimble jasper]

spear is fine

[full sonnet]

w/e

your mates dont always have stuff

filled the gaps

[nimble jasper]

unless you’re that one who shouldnt be named

who whiffed half his spears

[full sonnet]

i odnt like spear / bladestorm unhinged combo since sl

its

[nimble jasper]

def stance is fine as long as

the dr is equivalent to your own damage lost

its retarded when the dr is bigger than your own loss

cuz then 0 reason to leave d

[full sonnet]

spear makes me 😂 💧💧💧💧 a lot

im suicidallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

its a bad ability

with the amount of unclear interactions it has, how it moves your screen each time you get snapped

and how it can sometimes turn into a literal piece of shit on your screen when someone snaps you near a wall

[carmine vine]

wow you guys are almost fud'ing me off my new lvl 12 war alt 😄

[full sonnet]

spare yourself

and go play warlock

or mage or rogue

cant go wrong with pure dps class

[nimble jasper]

i still think the biggest problem of sl sub

was s2 onwards

[carmine vine]

SS seems very melee dominated tho

[nimble jasper]

with echoing reprimand

[carmine vine]

I need some ezemode shit 😛

[nimble jasper]

dh

[drifting jacinth]

so is destrolock a free glad spec?

[full sonnet]

it is and anyone who argues is a r/warlockmains loser

[nimble jasper]

idk he said shuffle

[late nacelle]

Idk

I just kill em

[nimble jasper]

i still think dh>rogue in shuffle in the hands

of low exp players

[grand tendon]

Statistics show it as well..

[full sonnet]

Eh

[nimble jasper]

low exp rogues dont realize people can hit them

[full sonnet]

Play Fury war and have more fun

[nimble jasper]

and look lost when they die

lmfao

[copper hare]

dh > rogue in general

[carmine vine]

rogue seems like more of a finesse spec, granted I understand they are overtuned now, but that could change before I even hit 70 😛

[copper hare]

in shuffle*

[nimble jasper]

assa is

[copper hare]

assa is broken but assa dies with a bad random healer

[nimble jasper]

but you have to realize how drs work more than dh

[full sonnet]

i dont even know what finese spec means

[drifting jacinth]

assa and sub are cuck specs

[late nacelle]

I think sub is kinda sleeper tho

[full sonnet]

you dont have a spam rotation?

[nimble jasper]

not even sleeper

[drifting jacinth]

demo lock is a cuck spec

mages are a cuck class

[nimble jasper]

top of eu shuffle is like 4 sub rogues

[late nacelle]

Gecar is a cuck spec

[full sonnet]

anything other than paladins and warriors are basicly big losers

[carmine vine]

ehm, like more setup based I guess.. chaining cc's etc

DH and war is just chaaaaaaaaarge basically no?

[drifting jacinth]

shutup garden dweller

[nimble jasper]

dh you just w key yeah

occasionally cc

[fair tide]

so tired of disc priest

[late nacelle]

Summon the elector counts

[fair tide]

every

[carmine vine]

isnt that even more so for war?

[fair tide]

fucking

game

[nimble jasper]

blur any somewhat damage

idk dh has more mobility

which lets you out of shitty spots easier

[late nacelle]

They need to remove darkness

Then im happy

[nimble jasper]

darkness isnt even the prime issue

[full sonnet]

to be honest

at this point

[nimble jasper]

why can dh dodge from behind

[copper hare]

nah, they dont need to remove anything, dh is really good in shuffle, but not insane in 3s

[late nacelle]

Nah but its cancer

[full sonnet]

i believe we should move back to rock paper scisors

in pvp

[copper hare]

rogue shits so hard on dh

[late nacelle]

They can bail someone out

[full sonnet]

remove all classes

[late nacelle]

With shitty rng defensive

[full sonnet]

just rock paper scissors for the rating

[nimble jasper]

yeah rogue if healer is half competent

[copper hare]

Right now its only two, paper is basically every player and scissor is just rogues

[nimble jasper]

is just….

[carmine vine]

so like whats the best class for duelling a rog? pala? 😄

[nimble jasper]

uhh

feral

[late nacelle]

Warr

[copper hare]

fury shits on everything in a duel would be my guess

[full sonnet]

Paladen

[late nacelle]

Bleed spec w spear

Hit spear he ded

[full sonnet]

speaking of fury

[late nacelle]

Fury is giga squishy btw

Shit spec

[full sonnet]

400k hp tho!

ah warlocks have more, nevermind

[copper hare]

it is in arena, but he asked for duels

[late nacelle]

Hp doesnt matter

Ehp matters

[full sonnet]

what race for fury war

rn

i mitta create an alt for haste gear

and have some funzies

[late nacelle]

Orc

Zug

[full sonnet]

zug

[late nacelle]

Zug

[full sonnet]

really?

[forest quest]

bro uncapped conq next week

[steel trout]

Dark iron

[forest quest]

just gear ur main

[copper hare]

what else can I play

[late nacelle]

Any warr that isnt orc w mannoroth shoulders isnt real warr player

[copper hare]

im so bored of dh, already got 2 wars

need something else

[drifting jacinth]

bring back MoP locks

[steel trout]

Go assa

Enyoy kidney

[late nacelle]

Tbh, go disc

[copper hare]

should I bring the mavespree back?

[late nacelle]

Free ebola

[copper hare]

its bloodelf though fuck

[full sonnet]

zug

time to level

[full sonnet]

fk it

i want an orc

[drifting jacinth]

more dakka

[copper hare]

or boomy?

I feel like boomy flys under the radar

[carmine vine]

whats your run speed on your wars btw? passively

[copper hare]

not as tanky as in SL but they pump with 4 set

[frank knoll]

Sub is insane but a lot of people the average player encounters suck at it

[late nacelle]

Good lad

[nimble jasper]

yeah pretty much

[late nacelle]

I think boomy is pretty high IQ atm

[steel trout]

Better go lavalavalava

[late nacelle]

U should be able to onetap people if u time stuff well

[nimble jasper]

all the big eu r1 rogs are spooky as shit on that spec

[late nacelle]

Very consistently

[nimble jasper]

psure they got top 4 playing sub surv thug

[steel trout]

Yes

[frank knoll]

I run into good boomys a lot in RBGs, had one in solo shuffle who was basically a second healer who also did good damage

[steel trout]

Sub is lowkey disgusting

[nimble jasper]

idk rat’s stream is always super amusing to me

cuz hes just perma malding

even when he wins

[frank knoll]

Sub is the most tanky rogue spec

[copper hare]

Yeah but I rather die to a good sub than getting tunneled by 1.9 max XP assa that does unhealable dmg

[steel trout]

I prefer they Delete rogue 😎

[drifting jacinth]

sub would be cool if it had a ninja aesthetic

[nimble jasper]

i remember when people thought sub did no dam in sl

[copper hare]

I wouldnt say no that

[nimble jasper]

then they copied eu playing deeper strata

and kyrian

[frank knoll]

It does have a ninja aesthetic imo

[late nacelle]

Ninjas are pretty cringe tbh

[steel trout]

Sub is fun asf to play but feels so bad to play vs

[drifting jacinth]

not like outlaw does with pirates

[nimble jasper]

then they added the new borrowed power spell in s3

called resonator

[frank knoll]

Ninjas didn’t actually even kill people all of the time irl
It was just a general term for a spy/informant

[late nacelle]

Resonator biggest troll shit ever

[nimble jasper]

after spites

[frank knoll]

Drest was the biggest troll guys

[nimble jasper]

how about getting hit by drest

with corruption debuff from spites

[drifting jacinth]

it was pretty much a mercenary job

[thick reef]

are there 2 primalist tier sets? I have full “Walking mountain” gesr that uogrades to ilvl 424 in pvp, but is there a seperate pve set that looks the exact same or is it just this for both?

[nimble jasper]

idk why the alleged ninja spec

has a spell called blackpowder

which sounds piratety

[drifting jacinth]

pirates just shoot shit and fire cannons

[nimble jasper]

you know outlaw had a spell cannonball barrage

then it got removed

you aimed it like kyrian spear

did dick for damage

[drifting jacinth]

Add rum into the spec

[nimble jasper]

they basically removed most of the pirate theme

[full sonnet]

outlaw in legion had a lot of stuff like this

was fun

[nimble jasper]

its basically a brawler now with a gun

[full sonnet]

yea

[drifting jacinth]

blizz brain

[nimble jasper]

plunder armor removed mid bfa

[full sonnet]

sad times

[nimble jasper]

just yoink the guy’s gear

[full sonnet]

you could use that on DHs

demon form

LMAO

that was funny as heck

[drifting jacinth]

I mean borrowed power p much fucked up the whole idea of class fantasy

[full sonnet]

also i remember sneaking to alliance's embassy and using parley or whatever the name of ability was to bribe guards and have them oneshot players

did they remove that too?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[full sonnet]

fun detected

[nimble jasper]

only meme thing you could do early df

was sometimes if you shrouded next to the valdrakken auctioneers

they’d disappear too

[full sonnet]

i'd never ally with a lizzard

also

fk lizzards and this evoker class

[nimble jasper]

blizzard

[full sonnet]

stupid, boring, not interesting, looks like shit

[drifting jacinth]

lizards look too zesty

[nimble jasper]

holy ward is problematic

time to nerf

also blizz

evoker immune to 3 ccs

[full sonnet]

kekw

remove

lizzards

[drifting jacinth]

they need to put the lizards on tren

[nimble jasper]

for some reason anytime i play a lizard healer team

when i attack his dps the guy is immortal

[drifting jacinth]

I was hoping for some D&D dragonborn shit

[full sonnet]

also so lazy with 2 specs on these new classes

[nimble jasper]

as soon as I attack the lizard

[cinder thorn]

Actually evoker would be cool if it was aoe specialist

When I first saw it I thought it was going to be an aoe spec

[nimble jasper]

man forgets he has buttons

and dies

[cinder thorn]

Like only aoe but really good at it

[nimble jasper]

well

[drifting jacinth]

lizards are almost as retarded as dh's

[nimble jasper]

if you watched cup 1

[full sonnet]

there are models like this in the game

[nimble jasper]

cdew got double kills

[full sonnet]

looks 10000 times better

[nimble jasper]

as evoker dk

so they were aoe

[carmine vine]

can you watch the awc games today? or just from tomorrow?

[cinder thorn]

That what I remember too

[nimble jasper]

then they got nerfed

[drifting jacinth]

too masculine for blizz

[cinder thorn]

Ye

[nimble jasper]

and cdew cant make top 8

[full sonnet]

i mean DF announcement was something else gotta admit

[nimble jasper]

apparently trill cant play rogue

or some shit

[nimble jasper]

nightborne npc

nightborne player

[drifting jacinth]

problem with wow is that it dont go hard in the paint no more

even mop had panda child slave labor

[full sonnet]

just use some random tool to generate the assets and hire an indian guy to model everything

you'd have better results

i hate this shit "ART TEAM CARRIES EVERYTHING"

art in this game has been dogshit since last expacs

[nimble jasper]

only thing art does

is gear is higher res now

you can count the pixels on tbc gear

[full sonnet]

i can generate 4k armor textures in midjourney in a matter of 10 secs now

[nimble jasper]

if you arent playing on a toaster

[drifting jacinth]

whoever designed the sl s3 and 4 mounts oughtta be ashamed

[nimble jasper]

i mean its the same mount

across 4 seasons

[full sonnet]

i realized

i'd be better off just uninstalling this dogshit game

and doing something... meaningful

[drifting jacinth]

yea but s3 had some dull ass red shit and s4 looked like actual feces

[full sonnet]

why do i bother

i'm activly looking for a way to fk my life and destroy all social relations

[cinder thorn]

OK bye

[nimble jasper]

i will say tho

primal fire illusion

is clean

[full sonnet]

How the fuck cant wow provide that in 2023

[drifting jacinth]

think of it as a new start

[nimble jasper]

mmos are a dying genre

[full sonnet]

drugs are cheaper than the subscription now

[nimble jasper]

kids want instant gratification

and fortnite emotes

[cinder thorn]

Didn't you say you were leaving

[full sonnet]

suck my cock lol

[cinder thorn]

You don't have one

[nimble jasper]

im just gonna say this but

[full sonnet]

i have two, im a mutant

[nimble jasper]

shuffle is brought on

by the same people who make games like fortnite popular

[drifting jacinth]

I mean getting good at pvp is a good way to ruin your social life

[full sonnet]

but there is like, no reason to get good at it, there are like 10 people playing wow pvp

[nimble jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-wow-hype-win-gif-26294740

[cinder thorn]

You still here?

[drifting jacinth]

buh da mount look kool

[nimble jasper]

when are they gonna unnerf tyranny enchants

[full sonnet]

you missed the point but k

keep trying to be edgy

[cinder thorn]

Oh yeah baby sharp as the edge of my sword

Honestly though if u think game is dogshit just leave dude

[drifting jacinth]

oi dem gitz foitin

[cinder thorn]

Why u waste ur time

Go waste it in better ways

[drifting jacinth]

the age old question

[cinder thorn]

I play this shit till I stop enjoying it then bye bye

[full sonnet]

but its so hard! it keeps coming back! argh, the curse!

i can't break the cycle

its Wow > league > some random rpgs > wow again

[cinder thorn]

I played and quit wow since vanilla about 5 times

Yeah try swtor btw

It's pretty good

[drifting jacinth]

good single player game

[wanton sun]

Oof. Tough sledding in solo shuffle today

[cinder thorn]

Swtor has great pvp also

Just lower population sadly

[copper hare]

for me wow > csgo > irl > back to wow

xd

[full sonnet]

we all live in a society

[drifting jacinth]

I mean wow's cool cause its huge

[full sonnet]

thats the probs

[cinder thorn]

Yawn, going sleep goodnight two dick man

[full sonnet]

gn gimli looking ass profile picture man

[copper hare]

I mean there is just nothing comparable in this genre

look at all the other mmo games

they suck donkey dick

we complain a lot about wow but this game is still in another league

[full sonnet]

b4 anyone goes "Buhh final fantasy!"

[drifting jacinth]

FF14 has cool fights

too much reading

[full sonnet]

It's like with FPS games

it just

doesnt have that... something

you shoot the gun, but you feel like nothing is being shot

[thick reef]

FF14 is designed for the lowest common denominator

Admitted as such by the dev

[copper hare]

idk, csgo is really fun and probably one of the best games ever imo

[drifting jacinth]

The isekai aspect makes the world kinda unbelievable

[copper hare]

but it's too sweaty

[full sonnet]

and there is just something insanely satisfying about hitting a mob with mortal strike

like

you watch it

the HP goes down

the sound effect

[drifting jacinth]

also ff14 classes are lame

[full sonnet]

it clicks in your brain the tingly things

[thick reef]

They unironically don't have instant kills in their raids because it "is too hard for the players"

[copper hare]

I think you never hit headshots in cs

:D

[full sonnet]

i sometimes play it

[copper hare]

nothing more satisfying than onetapping someone with a deagle from 100 yards

[thick reef]

Gunbreaker looks cool, but that is because I'm a FF8 guy through & through

[full sonnet]

for the same dopamine rush but im not that good

actually i think i've been better at CS than ever at wow xd

[drifting jacinth]

just shoot gun

[full sonnet]

which is ironic, considering i only played for like 300 hours (and maybe for like 2000 in 1.6)

[drifting jacinth]

pvp is the biggest joke in mmo's

[full sonnet]

its rock paper scissors on steroids right

they use B, you do A, they use A, you do C, so on

[drifting jacinth]

ima be real all this macro addon shit is annoying

[full sonnet]

i agree

but i'm like, shitting all over the place so dont take it too seriously

[drifting jacinth]

idk if theyre trying to design this game for spergs who play factorio

[full sonnet]

hate league of legends but you download the game and it works

no addons

no UI setting (i mean, scale, maybe?)

[drifting jacinth]

way less buttons

[full sonnet]

many buttons = not always fun

remove crusader strike, hammer of wrath from paladin

still feels the same

bloat buttons are a bad design, there is no complexity in having 3 buttons do the same thing

Have fire mage kind of many buttons = fun

[drifting jacinth]

they'd need to remake the engine to fix all of the aforementioned problems tbh

WoW 2

[copper hare]

Have you seen ret getting leap probably?

xd

[full sonnet]

that'd be cool

[full sonnet]

i did

i like it

I was actually screaming for ret to use wings for jumping ever since they shown us Legion's Turaylon

[copper hare]

Imagine a ret leaping on your healers head into hoj into oneshot

[thick reef]

Ret literally needs to be like us to not be in a wheelchair

[full sonnet]

no oneshots

me no likey

[spice hornet]

why can priest shield their psyfiend

[grand tendon]

mmr system is dogshit

[scarlet barn]

Nah

[drifting jacinth]

where u gettin ur drugs lmfao

[wanton sun]

with the changes to arms, how can I get my damage up higher? it definitely seems lower overall. always use MS with 2 stacks of overpower and just keep the overpower buff to MS up?

[drifting jacinth]

just reroll arms is F tier

completely unplayable

[wanton sun]

-_-

[drifting jacinth]

[forest quest]

what build do you play?

Try to stack execute as well and colossal smash

I do 85k crits with MS without avatar

[wanton sun]

still running this build

[forest quest]

I run warlord and concussive blow but otherwise the same

[wanton sun]

Alright. i'll try to monitor the buffs to MS a little closer as well.

[drifting jacinth]

ngl its funny that casters have the same grass is always greener complaint that melee has

[wanton sun]

Do you only sharpen before a Colossus smash window?

[carmine vine]

numbers dont lie mate, melee dominates SS

[drifting jacinth]

you mean the joke bracket?

[full quiver]

Cause it wouldn't be fair if they couldn't give it 6x hp with one button

[carmine vine]

Sure. If that makes you feel better.

[drifting jacinth]

sounds like a 2.7k shuffle andy

yo maybe thats what will end the deflated 3's bracket

[wanton sun]

Man, what is with solo shuffle tonight. I Just had two lobbies back to back where the healer AFK the first 2 rounds then decided to start playing after they were on the other team. Just tanked my rating 😦

[drifting jacinth]

yea ppl think theyre funny in shuffle

[carmine vine]

I duno what that means. I’m a complete noob these days. Back when i played wow there was no arena. 😅

[drifting jacinth]

apologies

[carmine vine]

Hehe. No offense taken. 🤣 My quest to find the most faceroll spec for SS brought me here.

[copper hare]

"joke bracket" and then you realise it's the ONLY active bracket in this game

[drifting jacinth]

rip 3's

[hazy isle]

this is very bad

i cant push glad with the lads

[copper hare]

facing r1 at 2.2 mmr

what a fun experience

[drifting jacinth]

I mean apparently 16 year olds can get r1

their 2nd season

[late nacelle]

Daily request for gecar to swap his avatar [x]

[little lava]

lol just play normal pve rotation

if u waste 2 op before every ms u waste procs of battlelord

and waste EB too

spam mortals on cd

and overpowers

[copper hare]

idk dmg feels pretty much the same

[little lava]

when u want to use ignore pain and have 2 stacks of overpower, use overpower first and immedietealy ignore pain

idk what ppl are complaining

i see this as a buff

80k op + 20k dreadnaught with other 20k dreadnaught when SS

through dodges/parrys

rogues and dh thinks that u cant kill them through defs

prove them wrong

[drifting jacinth]

你很生气我太时髦了

[ebon pivot]

Just slam

[golden fractal]

Just started doing pvp, im assuming the conquest wep is prio #1. Pvp ilvl is 411, so all blues

[drifting jacinth]

I mean its uncapped next week so go crazy

[sharp meteor]

buy w/e it doesn't matter we uncapped on tuesday

[copper hare]

double disc, frost mage/ele/bm

give me a worse shuffle lobby

[sharp meteor]

double disc arcane brewmaster destro

[copper hare]

I take that any day

over frost mage ele

[drifting jacinth]

remove mages and rogues from pvp

destro looks like it has less buttons than arms

[sharp meteor]

imagine if they had given frost mage a mortal strike

[lyric gyro]

45 rating from duelist someone hold me I don't want to lose 500 rating again

[mild mango]

do yall know if fueled by violence is healing when skullsplitter is used?

[drifting jacinth]

just play 1000 more games

[mild mango]

just wondering cause my details isnt showing up any healing besides just the normal ticks of deep wounds

[lucid walrus]

it should

[drifting jacinth]

how many ppl actually shield swap?

[tardy flame]

Just Wise Gnome

[drifting jacinth]

lmfao

[vivid pumice]

I dont see the point, it's what 2-3 globals?

[thick reef]

More

You actually have to hold the fucking shield to block

[vivid pumice]

so you cant even swap, sb, swap, you have to wait until sb ends to swap back

[thick reef]

Yes

[vivid pumice]

gross

[frank knoll]

You guys think r1 AWC players are geeked up on adderall?

[drifting jacinth]

sounds just as niche as knife only cod

[drifting jacinth]

adderall is power

[thick reef]

You literally have to sit there with a hunk of fuck you on your arm until block wears off

Then at that point you just die lmao

[vivid pumice]

yeah i feel like it would be more beneficial to just sit with your 2h and do what you can to survive

I can't imagine a full 8-10 seconds where i don't have some kind of tool between me and my healer to stay alive

if you're at the point where your only hope is swap into sb then you've kind of already lost imo

[quaint osprey]

Is it me or does Arms do more dmg since the "Nerfs"

[tardy flame]

Probs does

[frank knoll]

Overpower def does

Mine hit for like 40-60k

[tardy flame]

How many double EP double OP stack MSes were you sending per game vs just hitting big OPs?

[vivid pumice]

we just can't crush people within the span of one avatar anymore

[tardy flame]

It wasn't a nerf. Damage was redistributed

[frank knoll]

Yeah I dont get MS north of 100k anymore

[vivid pumice]

overall doing more damage per round though

[copper hare]

l2p issue

https://gyazo.com/6361cc7ce8612351f472e962abe08f40

[frank knoll]

Always room to improve

You could’ve been in a BG with zerk and SW potion too js

[late nacelle]

Shield swap is legit

Dont diss me

[indigo barn]

Blocked attacks can't crit

Trust me guys were sleeping on giga tech trust

[vivid pumice]

shield block is the future of arms survivability

[copper hare]

shuffle :D

[indigo barn]

Can you even MS with a 1h?

I know most fury abilities don't work with a shield

[queen stag]

when is assa getting nerfed what is this autism

[copper hare]

wdym they got a 5% nerf which makes them unplayable

[grand scaffold]

im fucking back to being 2640 rating

oh well

afternoon ques should be good

this morning dunce priests parading

like whats so fucking hard about pressing void shift

and dome

i dont fucking understand

[neon quest]

If i am just pvping, then the quality of the infurious boots and helm shouldn't matter right? i can go for the cheaper ones?

since it scales to 424?

whether its level 1-5 of the quality colors

[copper hare]

correct

[neon quest]

any reason i should go for a higher quality, aside from PvE usage?

[copper hare]

no

[neon quest]

that i am not thinking of lol

thank you

[copper hare]

annoying panzerhenk on my alt in late night lobbies xd

https://gyazo.com/6687bc5e646f60f1d87bc5ea354657a8

[vivid pumice]

lotta priests getting carried by their class to ratings they shouldn't be playing at

[copper hare]

I mean it's the same for destru locks and dh/rogue/bm right now

[rotund trellis]

dh with their 990k throw glaive. SKILL.

[late nacelle]

Got legend yet?

[grand scaffold]

yeah yesterday

[late nacelle]

Im 30 off

[grand scaffold]

im trying to get 2800 tho

[late nacelle]

U can do it

[rotund trellis]

grats!

[grand scaffold]

thanks!

now i just gotta get 2800

[rotund trellis]

that's impressive, and 1000 more than my curent 1800 goal lol

[grand scaffold]

😄

youll get there!

[rotund trellis]

❤️

[grand scaffold]

😄

[rotund trellis]

I will, just trying to better my game. Not easy, but I'll try

[ebon pivot]

Same

Seems every step forward I make ten backwards lol

[rotund trellis]

yesterday my fall from 1790 to 1500 was brutal

[ebon pivot]

Or just get stuck in the neutral zone where the game tells me 3/3 or 4/2 isn't good enough to raise my cr

[copper hare]

the most important thing is that you dont look too much at your cr/mmr all the time, specially when you're still low

rather try to improve in terms of rotation/interface/picking the right targets etc

[grand scaffold]

bro

i dropped from 2760 to now 2640

its like legit gut wrenching

[ebon pivot]

Oof I hear that. Last week I got 1628, promptly got into an all caster lobby where the ele sham just nuked me. Went on a streak down to 1490 now I'm stuck in 1500 land lol

[grand scaffold]

like why the fuck does solo shuffle match WARRIORS against 3 casters

like dang

[rotund trellis]

are you opening your rotation with slam though?

[sage raptor]

im going fricking cry

[ebon pivot]

Cause casters say we got too hard with 100% uptime

If my rating keeps tanking I'm tempted to just start queueing up as Fury or with the Slam spam build

Can't get any worse so might as well eff around!

[rotund trellis]

spamming slam in fury is next level.

[grand scaffold]

who has 100% uptime

into destro frost mage im being bullied

10% uptime

[ebon pivot]

I can't wait for the ret rework. They getting heroic leap and bloodthirst

[ebon pivot]

Heard and felt that. But you know, I always see casters going on about warrior uptime, mobility, tankiness, oh so much dam

[dapper oasis]

Are PVE Tier Set bonus' enabled in PvP content?

[grand scaffold]

tankiness?!?!

[ebon pivot]

And im over gear trying to figure out where all that is

[ebon pivot]

If you buy a piece of conquest gear you can upgrade it to tier gear and get the ilvl boost in pvp

[sage raptor]

me bish

[grand scaffold]

must be some garbage warlocks

[dapper oasis]

But like, 424 Tier Shoulders + Helm, would the 2piece work, or does it get disabled in PVP?

[rotund trellis]

you mean the 2 and 4 set pieces bonis to MS?

it works

[ebon pivot]

It should work yeah

[dapper oasis]

Fuck

Ok

Thanks

[rotund trellis]

too bad there's almost no place for MS in our rotation now, as it's basically just slam.

[ebon pivot]

I had a lock the other night who'd gate/port as soon as I charged him. Never waited for spear

She also liked to let me reflect her CBs

Why chunk a warlock when they can chunk themselves

[rotund trellis]

anyone using a 12 buttons mouse by any chance? or you guys bind everything to keys?

[dapper oasis]

Does the Drakebreakers set work in Arenas? I keep hearing people say it doesn't

[rotund trellis]

it does not

[dapper oasis]

So weird. So the PVE Tier works in arena, but the Drakebreakers, that says it works in arena, doesn't..

Thanks for the info, hard to casually PVP when tool tips are fucky.

[rotund trellis]

does it say that in the tooltip?

[drifting jacinth]

definitely 12 button mouse over alt keys

[grand scaffold]

i used to have one

its pretty amazing

now i have one with 2 buttons because it broke

[rotund trellis]

I have it, but it's so heavy I hate it

I found one by razer with side scrolling wheel clicks, that I love

but only 2 side buttons

[grand scaffold]

you should get a g502

its got 3 side buttons

i myself like 3 more than 12 mainly because im used to shift modifiers

[rotund trellis]

what modifiers are you using? shift and ctr?

[drifting jacinth]

my hands too big for that shit

[grand scaffold]

just shift

ctrl and alt feel funny to use

[rotund trellis]

I agree, i use shift only, my only compalain on the naga is its weight. I generally use a meshed mouse, superlight. but for pvp i need so many buttons..

[ebon pivot]

Agreed, I'm trying to get used to alt at least but it's just weird

[drifting jacinth]

too many buttons

not very warrior

[rotund trellis]

true. one is more than enough.

[ebon pivot]

Just bind slam

[copper hare]

big lobby https://gyazo.com/7dd4e27f64f498269ee6ad5308e8af57

[late nacelle]

thats like

+10 rating for 0-6 lobby

lmao

[spice hornet]

You about to get rolled up and smoked

[shy aurora]

So nukaha or w/e is the new cobalt assembly xd just saw pika lvl 2 alts 60-70 on 30 mins

[copper hare]

3-3 was okay

lol

[late nacelle]

how much rating

[copper hare]

• 20 xd

[late nacelle]

whaaat

scam

ok its pretty good for a 3-3

imagine if u 6-0d that lobby tho

[spice hornet]

I believe the healer MMRs are higher and drags up the overall match mmr but I don’t know if they actually account for the healer mmr in DPS end computation so maybe that’s why only 20. Idk

[copper hare]

nobody knows how it works lets be honest

you can 4-2 a lobby that has the same mmr than your cr, and you gain 0 rating

then you go 2-4 the next one and lose 60 rating

[spice hornet]

Yeah it’s very questionable

[copper hare]

doesnt make any sense it all

but at least if you win 3-4 shuffles in a row, you pretty much dont lose anything for a couple if you dont go 1-5 or smth

[rotund trellis]

40 minutes in queue, fuck it I;m going to bed

[frank knoll]

Crazy thing is, that’s like going 3/3 for like 4 matches

[grand scaffold]

i went

1/5

3/3

3/3

1/5

all because of shitty priests

[copper hare]

I really dislike disc priest aswell, you're like on a 1 min timer, if you dont kill someone you'll just die

[frank knoll]

That happened to me yesterday
I’m at low rating though. So there was probably something I could’ve done to keep my teammates alive

Running into weird lobbies where like 1 guys goes 6/6 and everyone else does shitty

[ebon pivot]

I've been getting that too

unfortunately i am NOT the one going 6/0

[frank knoll]

Yeah it be that way sometimes

[late nacelle]

man

destro locks are scary

[copper hare]

you stay on them, you get killed by instants, you swap target and he kills you with 110k chaos bolts

great spec again

[late nacelle]

got +30 for 3-3

lmao

[copper hare]

next week "Incinerate Damage increased by 60% in PVP Combat" - We felt like Destruction is doing too much with instants, so we try to shift the damage and buff casting spells aswell"

Wouldn't surprise me ONE BIT

[late nacelle]

i just want

old spell reflect man

[pale minnow]

Yeah wich reflects for 6 secs everything let's gooooo

[late nacelle]

fuckiest thing is it will reflect shit like lightning shield procs atm

so stupid

[lucid walrus]

old spell reflect required rage, d-stance and a shield

[late nacelle]

u dont shieldswap?

[lucid walrus]

fuck no

[late nacelle]

LUL

[low cobalt]

can someone explain what "melee wings" and "castor wings" means for hpal?

i thought it just meant whether or not they took avenging crusader talent which makes it so their crusader strike heals

but both builds take it so im confused

[cerulean pecan]

I just got yeeted by one in 2 chaos bolts from 50% hp

[grand scaffold]

you have to be shitting me

0 cr for 4 wins?

[drifting jacinth]

shit game

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[drifting jacinth]

imagine if they could free-cast while walking like in MoP

oh wait thats basically arcane mage rn

[late nacelle]

broooo mugambala is such a shit mappp

[drifting jacinth]

better than dalaran sewers

[grand scaffold]

i dont mind it tbh

the only map i really dislike is the new one and tol viron

[late nacelle]

zzz I've tanked to 2300

had 2-4 4 shuffles in a row

didnt die a single time

feels bad man

[warped warren]

ndogo tanking 600 mmr

gets a 4round game, "why am i not getting rating"

[drifting jacinth]

winning without rewards is obvious bad game design

[slender lion]

This

[wheat jay]

Lol no?

Mmr dropped

He played against ppl below his rating

You don't get rewarded for winning an mma fight against a toddler

[grand scaffold]

i tanked 600 mmr?

how

my mmr wasnt 3200 before

[tropic wave]

It's not like he chose to be matched up against them. That's just bad matchmaking if the game matches you up against people and then doesn't reward you if you beat them

[grand scaffold]

yea'

like after a 5-1 game after a winstreak of about 12 rounds

it tanks my mmr to be 60 lower than my cr

tf sense is that

[wheat jay]

You don't get lower mmr by winning

Now be a good warrior and tell us, how many games did you lose before this game?

[wheat jay]

At the bottom right part of the table there's a thing that says your matchmaking value

Its lower than his current rating by 60

[steep inlet]

the healers mmr

fucked ya

[wheat jay]

His own mmr fucked him

[grand scaffold]

2 draws

[wheat jay]

Well, then your teammates mmr fucked you

[grand scaffold]

-_-

[muted surge]

Idk playing against a 2.2k mmr heal with 2.6k mmr

[wheat jay]

If you were the highest, game expects you to win

[muted surge]

Shouldn’t reward points

[grand scaffold]

tf do you mean

both healers are 2200

all dps are 2600

its literally an even game

[muted surge]

Yes but the team you are on has even higher mmr

[wheat jay]

If you dont win when you're supposedly the best you dont gain points

[grand scaffold]

but i was winning

4-2

-_-

[muted surge]

And the shaman had 50 more than the other heal

[wheat jay]

Against people worse than you

[muted surge]

You were supposed to win

[late nacelle]

I'd rather have

2 hour queue

than get into game

[muted surge]

That’s the whole point of how mmr works

[wheat jay]

You were supposed to be 6-0

[late nacelle]

where u get no rating for 4-2

[wheat jay]

Purely based on rating you had

[grand scaffold]

i mean

[wheat jay]

That's how game always worked

[grand scaffold]

i wasnt the one dying

[muted surge]

Doesn’t matter

[drifting jacinth]

there rlly that much of a difference in skill in the 2400-2600 range

[muted surge]

It’s a team game

[wheat jay]

Doesnt matter, you were supposed to be the carry based on your cr, because your cr says you are the best

[grand scaffold]

youde be shocked

[wheat jay]

No

There's difference in mmr

That's all

[drifting jacinth]

lame

[wheat jay]

You can see god players at 1800 even

And shitters at 2400

[steep inlet]

ofc

[drifting jacinth]

eh idk you can debate whether or not he deserves points based off of numbers still doesnt change the fact that it aint fun

specially if you run into that type of issue two/three games in a row

[muted surge]

Yea not gaining points isn’t fun

But they do that because people complain about queue times :>

[wheat jay]

Its not fun for sure

But sadly that's how it works in every pvp game

[drifting jacinth]

yea but we still have queue time problems

[wheat jay]

Can't have semi-balanced pvp without mmr

[drifting jacinth]

waiting more than 3 minutes pisses me off

[muted surge]

Just roll heal

[drifting jacinth]

fuck no thats for women

[wheat jay]

So is whining

[drifting jacinth]

I be spittin fax

not whining

[wheat jay]

I MEAAAAAAN

Sure

[drifting jacinth]

who wouldnt agree

specially if you're used to 3's que times

[wheat jay]

Sadly 2s and 3s are dead compared to SS

[drifting jacinth]

nah just wait for all the shuffle andy's to inflate the ladder end of season

regardless I'll pump out 3000 games for the glad mount

[wheat jay]

Wish I wasnt working 12h a day

Id push glad

[drifting jacinth]

unemployment rocks

I mean I have uni but that shits braindead

[wheat jay]

Push while you can brother

Push while you can

[tardy dirge]

Every fucking solo shuffle que is like estimated 7 minutes and mine take 30 min plus every time fucking over it.

[drifting jacinth]

if 16 year olds can get r1 then it cant be totally impossible

[warped warren]

homie really arguing mmr is a bad system for rating

[warped warren]

is this cali alt or @unborn egretbri

[drifting jacinth]

what the fuck u talkin about

[wheat jay]

We finally reached a point where people dont even know Calibri

[drifting jacinth]

that a local sperg?

who tf is that

more importantly why tf am I bein mistaken for someone

[tribal wedge]

Miss him

[limber relic]

Gotta love the new warrior buff

[warped warren]

i think about the calibri arc of skyhold every night, then cry myself to sleep

[wheat jay]

Rovicus' double toilet seat

[fickle forge]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a Highmaul Coliseum legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[drifting jacinth]

why he banned

[tranquil hemlock]

Still got him on my real id

He’s alive and well lol

[quaint snow]

? 🙂

[limber relic]

Overpower buff by 20%

[warped warren]

noooooooo

[quaint snow]

ahhh you mean these 👍 though MS got nerfed^^

[limber relic]

Meh. I rarely stack op/execute anyways

Op hitting 80k is fine by me

[shy aurora]

When you say it were did calibri go xd

[grand scaffold]

who even is that

[prime lion]

brothers the warrior game on AD EU is fuckin weak

there is not a single warr above 2.1k

watch me get rank 1 ez

solo shuffle rly knocked the shit out of every other bracket

[indigo barn]

Bruin

[grand scaffold]

i miss bruin

[upbeat robin]

Where does a simple peasant of the land start with warrior pvp?

[drifting jacinth]

slamming your keyboard

[grand scaffold]

is the sks build in pins still best?

[drifting jacinth]

who tf said it was the best

[grand scaffold]

nobody

i just assumed

what is?

[drifting jacinth]

whatever works for you

spear does the bigger dam if you can use it right

or just overall better in utility

shit ability tho tbh

[grand scaffold]

i know

but i wanna test sks

[drifting jacinth]

go for it

arms is pretty fuckin hard to be good at tbh

[grand scaffold]

yea

so is joe fernandes build or sks build in pins better

joe's build seems so goofy

[drifting jacinth]

idk

[grand scaffold]

like

[drifting jacinth]

I dont really bother with that experimental bullshit

[grand scaffold]

he has no exhilerating blows

[drifting jacinth]

arms is lowkey squishy

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[drifting jacinth]

give us fury defensives and we'll be master class

[dark sparrow]

damn

5-1 vs double lock mm hunter lobby in mugambala

[grand scaffold]

nice

[twilit patio]

i pump with sks

[grand scaffold]

what cr you at?

[twilit patio]

2.6

[grand scaffold]

dang

and you play sks with a positive winrate/

mind sending me your build?

[twilit patio]

i play spear here and ther

but yeah sec

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERSSSSKlSSAAAAABRioRSAR0QikkEaSEEAEJAAAAAAAAkEJIgAQA

i swap the stam/barb training for wrecking throw and 1 crit depending on who im playing

[grand scaffold]

how much does sks hit for on average?

[twilit patio]

its not sks that does the dmg its depleting a full rend + a full deep wounds all at once

ive 100 to 0d someone

[grand scaffold]

really?

[twilit patio]

when like almsot all bleed ticks crit

yeah

[grand scaffold]

does that usually happen or not really

[twilit patio]

well i play warlords

plus 30% base crit

and sks righta fter csmash

so

its a high ass crit

cahcne

plus all the bleed increased crit nodes

[grand scaffold]

whats your win loss ration looking like atm

ratio*

[twilit patio]

since i actually started using this and feel like im good at it porobably 60-70%

couldnt give yuou an exact

it does take a 3 global setup to reall do dmg but

ive legit double killed 2 melee with it using sweep

at once

thats my recent reflex

[grand scaffold]

im gonna start running this

my winrate in the gutter

now at 2530

like a chump

[twilit patio]

its really good against dks, evokers, monks

idk why but

they melt like butter