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steel trout
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nop

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the demo went 0-6

bright stream
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least you didnt get mumgunballagungobungo

steel trout
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ruins of lordog

bright stream
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LOL

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straight up thats the 4 wins on map roll

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imagine Blades edge into triple lock tho

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instant gate is cursed

steel trout
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yeah idk

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this demo was just complete dogshit

grand scaffold
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sup

quasi lotus
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ndogo is rating bipolar

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hollow ore
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slender lion
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dark sparrow
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0/6 destro yikers

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bright stream
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oi ndoggy

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you got

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4set?

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is it good?

grand scaffold
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yeah 4 set is pretty good

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i didnt really pay attention to the difference tbh

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but i crank and would recommend getting 4 set

steel trout
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do i see roar on ur bars HUH

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i thought it was a spear day!!!

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gz bro good pump

dark sparrow
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i would have 4set if i wasnt a complete idiot and skipped last weeks quest thinking they would stack critcake

grand scaffold
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into double lock

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spear

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or roar

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answer quick!

steel trout
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i played roar in triple lock lobby and went 4-2 ๐Ÿค“

grand scaffold
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nice!

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blademasters into surv?

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surv/destro

wheat jay
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Every day is a spear day

grand scaffold
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winning streaks are so nice

slender lion
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I have 2 set atm 421 pieces. Gonna maybe use catalyst on my pvp shoulders n then helm next week for 4 set on pvp if its worth

grand scaffold
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nah

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i have all 4 pvp pieces

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got lucky with vault

slender lion
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Aw the pvp tier set? The one that increases verse etc?

steel trout
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no

slender lion
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I reread

steel trout
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u want 4p

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i used full pve 4p until catalyst lol

slender lion
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I mean, I have 2 421 which are fine imo. I have 424 helm and shoulders I can catalyst this week and next.

steel trout
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ya i took a m+ piece thats 421 tier too

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3 ilvl wont make a difference

slender lion
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Nah I figured as much.

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I'll catalyst Shoulders and helm next week and get 4pc for pvp.

I got a lil flamed for taking 424 crit/vers pvp ring from vault last week haha

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Nothing else remotely good and both my rings were 411. N I actually like pvp so why not

steel trout
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i get flamed no matter what i take sadge

steel trout
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oh yeah

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dont do helm

slender lion
steel trout
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the crafted helm is good

slender lion
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Don't have sparks lol

dark sparrow
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yea shit stas

steel trout
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just wait till u drop one

dark sparrow
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conq pvp head is fine but catalyst one is dog

slender lion
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So what 4 pieces u want then? I have legs and chest atm

steel trout
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the ones that arent helmet

slender lion
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Hahaha

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Fair

dark sparrow
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if you dont want helm, theres not much choice left is there ๐Ÿ˜„

slender lion
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Nope ig not

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Hands r crit mastery tho

dark sparrow
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but crit mainstat iirc

slender lion
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Fair fair

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I'll check it out tomorrow when raid is finally over ๐Ÿ™Œ

grand scaffold
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guys

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im 1 4-2 game away from 2800

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do you guys think i should take a quick break?

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@steel trout

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like its been a bit of time since the push was REALLY strong like 1 hr

tribal wedge
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Are you tilt?

grand scaffold
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ques might be getting harder

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just nervous

tribal wedge
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So break

grand scaffold
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good idea

tribal wedge
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Find peace

grand scaffold
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yeah

tribal wedge
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And break them

grand scaffold
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i think

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im gonna wait for my rank to naturally drop from other warriors overtaking me

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and while they overtake me ill start queueing because ques would be good at that time

steel trout
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steel trout
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if ur not feelin it ur not feeling it

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yeah

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menace what cr you at now?

steel trout
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2730 i just played 2 games since u last asked

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))

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nice!

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what build?

steel trout
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same

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cool

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what were the win/losses in each game

steel trout
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4-2 3-3 i think

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nice!

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bro i had such a crazy push today

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imagine i was at 2515 at the start

steel trout
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good pump

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in 1 sesh?

grand scaffold
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well

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2

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first session got me to 2580

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the other to 2760

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morning ques were sort of goofy

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afternoon ques

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perfect

shy aurora
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@grand scaffold and @steel trout you play spear?

steel trout
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i blay thunder roar

muted surge
shy aurora
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Im messing around with roar+ skullsplitter

steel trout
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not a fan of sks but i think its good

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into some things

shy aurora
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Can feel abit clunky

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Im considering lvling a casual alt assa or dh. I have 3 warriors ๐Ÿ˜‚

weak wedge
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Started at 2065, at least I'm back at 2044 so I can try to get duelist again tonight or tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜„

steel trout
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i believe

dark sparrow
slender lion
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Actually considering levelling my rogue just too see what it's like in pvp lol

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I've been bled out by rogues before n they just walk away like a boss. Genuine rage

shy aurora
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Just zug them

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Smash head in with skull

shy aurora
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frozen sluice
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is fury decent for a casual player?

grand scaffold
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Sure

true grove
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which pvp talents do you use as Arms?

grand scaffold
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Warbanner

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Sharpen blade

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Warbringer/disarm

hollow ore
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REBOUND INTO DESTROLOCK

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๐Ÿ’

lean burrow
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reflect chaos bolt and glacial spike in the same global

true grove
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what's the difference on Mortal Strike's basic heal reduction and Sharpen Blade's?

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am I missing something?

lean burrow
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all pve healing reductions are halved in pvp

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pvp talents with heal reduction are full value

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MS 25%, shapren 50%

shy aurora
vivid pumice
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crafted pvp pieces, I want helm and boots right?

primal cosmos
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Yes

rotund trellis
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Good morning slammers!!! ready for some climbing????

polar marsh
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Rets getting reworked into a better arms spec

gleaming ibex
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Havent played whole 10.05 patch because of school stuffsadge
Did anything change in playstyle? I assume that roar or spear are still the builds to play.

What about sks or buffed slam? Is it worth using slam or still better to rend?

muted surge
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Slam is our best ability

polar marsh
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Hands down

dark sparrow
grand scaffold
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today i was winning more with spear tho

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polar marsh
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Before 5pm - spear
After 5pm - roar

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๐Ÿ˜‚

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bro idk why its like that

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why cant casters just not que entirely

craggy igloo
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spear is a little more variable but when you land that really juicy spear you can pretty much end the game with it

grand scaffold
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yeah

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spear is like sometimes garbo

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othertimes

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so awesome

craggy igloo
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so fun bladestorming those lil rats as they frantically try to swim out of the puddle lol

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i feel like roar fits better in the shuffle game scripts but yea i usually play spear

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usually only play roar into dk

steel trout
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cuz spear has a lot of counters

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thats why its sometimes garbage sometimes good @grand scaffold

grand scaffold
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yeah

craggy igloo
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love when reroll discs come marching through the middle of the map for their telegraph fear

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and jump into a nice spear for me lol

mild urchin
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did the general build change after the patch?

dark sparrow
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@steep inlet did you end up testing the 5% stam build stuff?

grand scaffold
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nope

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its eh

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nothing spectacular

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not game winning

steel trout
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say wallah playing frothing berserker and conc blows or 5 % stam is not game winning changes o_O!?

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๐Ÿ˜‚

lavish heron
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destro definitely hit harder before patch

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bugs must of worked in their favour

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honestly tho the meta hasnt shifted much

elfin surge
lavish heron
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aye

vapid turtle
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You guys reckon fatality is better than executioners precision now?

lean burrow
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both are shit

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imo

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games are too short for fatality

grand scaffold
grand scaffold
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no reason not too if you play spear

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but they arent particular good

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just extra dmg

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sometimes fatality wins a game

vapid turtle
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so you only run both with spear, not with roar?

tribal nimbus
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How many times does fatal mark stack up to?

frank knoll
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Iโ€™m so glad the bleed build is good
I canโ€™t stand playing spear lol

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I honestly hate spear

lavish heron
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oh no its terrible more than one viable build ๐Ÿ˜„

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i like the bleed to

trail hamlet
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343k in 1.7 seconds. jesus christ

sharp meteor
brazen rock
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no bearform no bark no ironbark

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deserved

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oh w8

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ur dh

trail hamlet
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that wasnt on me. was on a DH partner. and had to bark earlier cause the dragon also crit all his goes

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felt like a 1/5000 game, but was just crazy

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dude just died in a global

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never been able to do that much on my warrior =\

native thunder
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I am just so programmed for throwing a spear and picking where I place it that when I switch to roar I sometimes hit it when my target isnโ€™t in range ๐Ÿ˜‚

frank knoll
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Damn 70k warbringer. Fury?

trail hamlet
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No this one was arms

frank knoll
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My big beef with spear is that I feel like everyone can get out of it

grand scaffold
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yo

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you guys on north america

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how are ques atm

icy bridge
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๐Ÿค” What's the best warrior spec to pick atm that can be played into multiple 3s comps?

digital crater
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Anyone have good Intervene arena1/arena2 macros for SS?

digital yarrow
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As Fury is Bloodbath or Execute higher prio?

rotund thunder
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Damnit blizzard

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buffing slam so I have to put it back on my bar

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I preferred just using rend instead

icy bridge
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Aight

lean burrow
digital yarrow
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if theyre above 35% is bloodbath below both in prio?

icy bridge
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It honestly feel so dirty rerolling Arms from Outlaw lol

digital yarrow
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ty

shy aurora
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How much does it cost to buy this lvling boost people are talking about?

grand scaffold
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live

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like*

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from 1-60?

steep cairn
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yo

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anybody on NA queing solos shuffle?

steel trout
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JUST Q BRO TRUST

grand scaffold
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bro idk

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quaint snow
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the feeling when you go 6:0 and then 1:5 right after

shy aurora
steel trout
grand scaffold
quaint snow
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you guys go bleed build vs demo?

grand scaffold
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yes

dark sparrow
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Could prob find cheaper

slender lion
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genuinely messing about with talents on fury and done a few skirmishes lol

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that include onslaught

icy bridge
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not to mention its a FOTM class

shy aurora
twilit patio
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we fucking did it

grand scaffold
twilit patio
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do you only get double warlock

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my 2.4 game was mm hunter/ surv hunter/demo lock

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and i went 3-3

grand scaffold
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ima take a break

twilit patio
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yeah if thats all youre queing into

grand scaffold
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tomorrow morning

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2800

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i knew i shouldnt have played

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i knew it

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fuck

twilit patio
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youll get it back

quaint snow
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full quiver
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Damn u were so close

feral barn
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whats fastest way to farm up conquest after you do your dailywins/weekly quests?

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grind out 2s?

steel trout
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shuffle prob

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or rbg

muted surge
steel trout
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any time

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u are griefing urself being scared to q frfr

grand scaffold
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My last game that I breaker on was 2-4

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Question started getting goofy

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Lobbies*

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Stupid autocorrect

grand scaffold
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The priests briefed me

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Griefed*

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One time used 0 pain supp

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0 dome

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Literally not my fault I had lost that

steel trout
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sure but my point is that

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u can get that lobby anytime

grand scaffold
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They just expected me to magically live with 0 cdโ€™s

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Yeah with proper teammates

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Anyways in the morning Iโ€™m getting that 2800 nothing gonna stop me

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I even set an alarm to wake up early

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Really early

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Anyways wish me luck on queues tomorrow

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Iโ€™m going to sleep

nimble jasper
icy bridge
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I refuse to play Sin lol

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Spec's really sleeper

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and requires a different set of gear

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from Outlaw which I don't really want to farm

nimble jasper
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yeah both outlaw and sub are good its just

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sin is uhh

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i exist

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other guy deadge

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aside from a few vers mast pieces it shouldnt be very different

icy bridge
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Yee

nimble jasper
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unless you actually bought two swords as outlaw

icy bridge
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also doesn't help that everytime Sin and Sub gets nerfed, its likely Outlaw gets hit as well

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I have both swords on my rogue x)

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1 from vault, 1 bought

nimble jasper
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dagger offhand usually better

icy bridge
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not really lol

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its only poison procs

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in pve its a minor dps increase

nimble jasper
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wep is also crit vers

icy bridge
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so is sword

nimble jasper
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i tried the spec a few times pre tier feels good

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in melee lobby at least

icy bridge
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In pre tier and honor only

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twas good

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till the balances came in

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then went down hill from there

nimble jasper
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ehh tier bonus was strong

icy bridge
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outlaw's?

nimble jasper
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yeah played with it week 2

icy bridge
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Somewhat

nimble jasper
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theyโ€™re both good specs just sin is super oppressive

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even before factoring in numbing deleting peopleโ€™s haste

icy bridge
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Ye

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But once we got Conquest gear

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Outlaw's damage starts to fall off hard

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and it begins to feel like wet noodles slap boxing other folks

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rather than actually doing damage

nimble jasper
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felt fine to me dunno

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its just sin i barely had to do any cc

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to kill someone

icy bridge
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Yep

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as Outlaw, I had to pull every CC possible

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while trying not to overlap DRs

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Blind --> Sap (or Kidney if they trinket Blind)

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Shiv on melee to reduce their mspeed by 84%, Disarm to prevent burst

nimble jasper
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well you forgot gouging heals

icy bridge
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Gouge to stop casts or CC someone

nimble jasper
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and the odd stepkick/bladerush kick

icy bridge
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Ye

nimble jasper
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warrior feelsโ€ฆ.ok

icy bridge
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Theres also Grapple Kick

nimble jasper
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idk if I would say fotm

icy bridge
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Ever since warrior buffs

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I can't really call Evasion a defensive anymore

nimble jasper
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ehh

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you do what i call the booly strat

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anytime kidney is on cd

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you just aa him through a pillar

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to keep up crippling

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then wait for dr

icy bridge
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Ye

nimble jasper
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its not that bad of a matchup imo

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monk is worse

icy bridge
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with their strong hits?

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at least monks are killable

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when separated from their healer

nimble jasper
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yeah you just kite them

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and watch them tilt

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any good monk will pre disarm or ring your goes

steel trout
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rogue players ๐Ÿคฎ

nimble jasper
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average rogue is real bad tbh

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see the kidney coming way ahead of time

icy bridge
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at least with War

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I see them LOS their healer super hard

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and walk out alive

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everytime

nimble jasper
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uhh as outlaw maybe cuz plate

icy bridge
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prob

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but for an extended period of time

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w. sap and CCs

nimble jasper
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sin hes just perma dead cuz uhh yeah

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none of the damage is mitigated by armor

icy bridge
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Yee

nimble jasper
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last time i played outlaw I just sat healer vs melee teams

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and got free cleave all game

icy bridge
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That's a pretty rare occurrence for me

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Normally Im usually kill target for the enemy team or just get CC'd consistently

nimble jasper
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if they go you thatโ€™s free cleave sitting on his healer

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also depends what healer you play with obviously cuz rdruid/evoker/mw are p much impossible for him to catch

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if healer has hands

icy bridge
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I dont have many folks who play healers sadly

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so im stuck with Disc Priest

nimble jasper
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i generally like playing with disc for the dam

elfin surge
nimble jasper
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but you have to play more aggro generally

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rdruid 2s is

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scratch your butt out of boredom

icy bridge
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true lol

nimble jasper
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play max 40yd pve heal like average bad rdruid

elfin surge
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They need to add rewards or make them more attainable for the masses to drive participation. Gladiator should be 2100 in this current season imo, then we would see people actually trying for it. 2400 is way out of the average persons reach, so much so they donโ€™t even try.

We need something meaningful between 1800 and 2400, and the mount would be best to drive participation.
They can also add something unique to higher ratings to compensate for mount being less prestigious if they want, but the big problem is lack of average players queing regular arena so incentivizing them makes the most sense.

nimble jasper
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or dr stun before stun is back

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thats rdruid players summed up

icy bridge
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also infinite kite w. bear form

nimble jasper
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evoker players are idk

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susge

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infinite healing but the sec you hit them

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they start shitting the bed

icy bridge
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true lol

nimble jasper
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oh nvm anymore

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emerald communism

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outskilled bozo

sly walrus
icy bridge
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you mean the M+ difficulty?

sly walrus
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Jk just be good at PvP I guess mid bad

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And raid

nimble jasper
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m+ is easy

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if pure clickers can be 3k

icy bridge
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Its sleeper

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Problem is finding people

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especially in the 16s that have a braincell

nimble jasper
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average m+ andy thinks a focus kick macro

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is some new technology

icy bridge
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That's too smart for the +16 players

elfin surge
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Gladiator is just too far for the average person to achieve. Please lower

nimble jasper
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have a weakaura that assigns markers

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have a tank that uses mic

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congrats

sly walrus
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You lost most of the player base by asking for weakauras

icy bridge
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^

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lol

nimble jasper
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gladiatorlossa is basically a million weakauras

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with all the pvpers who have a million airhorns

nimble jasper
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for every classes cds

sly walrus
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Inflate dn

sharp meteor
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I remember being 2400 and #900 during Corrupted and towards the end the same rating was like #3500.

flat tide
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Give every person +200 cr ez fix

elfin surge
nimble jasper
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m+ inflation technically exists

steel trout
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inflate 3s ๐Ÿ˜ก

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inflate 3s ๐Ÿ˜ก

nimble jasper
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doing keys 2 months after the top end players do

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with way more gear

steel trout
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delete solo shuffle ๐Ÿ˜ก

sharp meteor
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Glad goes out to like 1500-2000 people rather than 12,000

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unchained glads in ruins

nimble jasper
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the funniest shit to me

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is m+ title

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is acc wide

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meanwhile pvp r1

mystic barn
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are there 1500-2000 glads rn?

sharp meteor
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Mistwalker isn't sadge

mystic barn
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or are you talking end of ssn

nimble jasper
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yeah mistwalker the og goat title

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what do you have mistwalker on btw

sharp meteor
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Guessing as to what it'll be end of season

mystic barn
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oh thats not bad at all then

sharp meteor
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I would've had it on my Sham but never had 3 people on same realm

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so got it on monk that was on dead

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realm

nimble jasper
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tho the worst shit

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is uhh

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unchained onetime glads

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who ask why shit is so deflated

icy bridge
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lmao

sharp meteor
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when somebody is shitting all over somebody else for being low rated

mystic barn
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tbf the ladder is dead rn

sharp meteor
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you can almost smell their lone unchained dragon

mystic barn
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so yea it is deflated

nimble jasper
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shuffle killed the ladder

steel trout
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yes

sharp meteor
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everybody 1k higher in shuff than 3s sheeeesh

nimble jasper
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you need a rat leagues in any game

steel trout
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make it easier to get 1800 in 3s than solo shuffle and all the casuals will play 3s chatting

nimble jasper
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now all the 1600 hardstuck players are queueing 2k games of shuffle

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and cooming when they break 2k

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after a decade

icy bridge
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you forget it takes much longer to find a 3s team

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than a 2s or solo queue for SS

nimble jasper
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idk find friends

flat tide
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It's wow bro

nimble jasper
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i hate the whole lfg 3s idea

icy bridge
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This reminds me of those machinimas

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of trying to make friends in WoW

nimble jasper
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glad is one of those things

icy bridge
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by the time you ask a question, everyone has already left to do something else

nimble jasper
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you should have friends for tbh

flat tide
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I don't want to befriend the 60 year old smokers critcake

nimble jasper
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bfa and its 2400+ 50 wins glad

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gave people a false sense of pride imo

flat tide
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It should be easier to make friends in wow smh

nimble jasper
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I mean the guy I did my first push with I met on disc shitposting about mhw

flat tide
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Mhw?

icy bridge
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^

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I've yet to see the guy who I pushed Duelist with

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back in S2 of SL

nimble jasper
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monster hunter world

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hes full FF andy now though

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when spriest is bonkers

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xdddd

flat tide
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So it wasn't a real glad okayge

robust osprey
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is it worth spending the 1900 conquest to go from 421 Drakebreaker 2h to 424 conquest? xd

steel trout
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conq uncaps next week so

nimble jasper
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nah we got it just uhhโ€ฆ

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was short 5 games and he got bored so no voiced rmpal for last games

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cuz that comp doesnt req a brain

steel trout
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so u didnt get it

nimble jasper
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nah i got it

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snooze comp

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we spited a lock and made him die from 70% tho

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to double thing from beyond

marsh sinew
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Hello guys can anyone help me with pvp rotation

nimble jasper
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read a pve guide

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and set keep up hamstring

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before anything else

marsh sinew
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But my issue is as soon as I enter I get destroyed completely

steep cairn
marsh sinew
nimble jasper
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whats the context

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honor gear kinda weak now

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that people are full conq

marsh sinew
nimble jasper
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read a pve guide for basic damage idk

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wouldnt rely on baj

marsh sinew
nimble jasper
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ms hamstring

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should both be accessible v easily

polar marsh
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OP

marsh sinew
polar marsh
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Slam

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Slam charge rend hamstring ๐Ÿ‘Œ

marsh sinew
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Itโ€™s good ?

nimble jasper
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phone screenshot

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mamma mia my eyes

marsh sinew
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Sorry

nimble jasper
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nothing wrong with the build

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dying is alot of factors

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bad positioning a big one

marsh sinew
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I donโ€™t even know how to set up a macro aim new

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There is a thing they do like rush to you then avatar then spear and spinning wheel

nimble jasper
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you dont โ€œneedโ€ macros

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wtf is spinning wheel

marsh sinew
#

Where he spins

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Okay Iโ€™ll make it easier on you Iโ€™ll handle the rest

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But can you tell me an opened I can do in pvp thatโ€™s all please

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Opener*

nimble jasper
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i mean theres 0 reason to bladestorm while bursting

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bladestorm dam is kind of ass

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unless unhinged maybe

nimble jasper
#

that is a meme copypaste

pure hornet
#

Got only 1650 in 2โ€™s and 1800 in solo max, i need incentives to hit at least 2000 in 2โ€™s or 3โ€™ And 22-2400 in solo

nimble jasper
#

2100 has enchant

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solo is such an inflated bracket

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should move rewards higher

lean burrow
#

ss should be % based

nimble jasper
#

its feeling like unchained season inflation

marsh sinew
nimble jasper
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where I gape a healer at 2.4 in opener

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cuz man doesnt have hands

pure hornet
marsh sinew
nimble jasper
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2s is bedge pov

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assa or warrior

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every game

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also deflated

pure hornet
#

Way more to learn from constant arenas than keep playing one game every half an hour

nimble jasper
#

would say shuffle is awful to learn in

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its a fucking hot mess

steel trout
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Swear shuff is just dam simulator

sharp meteor
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so is 3s right now tbh

quick carbon
#

I just prefer coordinated games

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with da bois

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shuffle boring to me

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games most fun when Iโ€™m playing with my friends

thick reef
#

Best war race?

tardy flame
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Dark Iron

thick reef
#

Dark iron dwarfs and the allied orcs look the coolest.

thick reef
stark agate
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Male Human with sword best race/class in every game

sharp meteor
lavish heron
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Dark iron atm cos racial just kills v sin rogue

thick reef
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Yeah the allied races look cool but not sure if i feel like grinding them out lol.

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Yeah my main is a rogue.

lavish heron
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its about 2 hours per race with flying

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its not that bad

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do it in btween ques for pvp ๐Ÿ˜„

thick reef
#

Oh, yeah that isnโ€™t too bad

sharp meteor
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most races good/fine

lavish heron
#

^^

sharp meteor
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if u rlly want bleed removal then standard dwarf is chillin

lavish heron
#

i unlock for heritage armour

sharp meteor
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the 2% crit dam is cool too as arms

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also standard dwarf looks way better

lavish heron
#

bit dissapointment you cant use it on other races

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Er

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Lies

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fire beard is king

sharp meteor
#

like legit 8x the customization options LMAO

lavish heron
sharp meteor
#

oh well my race has like

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3 options in total

thick reef
sharp meteor
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dark iron no options

lavish heron
#

beard options are better on stadard and tattoos

sharp meteor
#

u have like 2 good beards

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2 ratty ones

lavish heron
#

aye

sharp meteor
#

3-4 hair styles

lavish heron
#

so whats the build atm

#

slam build?

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slambleed?

thick reef
#

Okay, second question. Going to make an alliance just to have an alliance. Right now iโ€™m in lightnings blade, anyone familiar with how they are for ally or is there a server i should like no question goto for ally

lavish heron
#

errr

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theres a website for that to show balence

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but honestly warmode kinda sticks everyone together

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only thing thats influenced is cost of mats and crafts

flat tide
nimble jasper
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lmao

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its orc without stun dr

flat tide
#

Good thing he was talking about looks

nimble jasper
#

idk i think people overhype dark iron

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how often are you going on their go

flat tide
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All day

nimble jasper
#

one streamer says darkiron everyone follows like sheep

flat tide
#

I mean it is pretty good though

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And they look cool

nimble jasper
#

regular dwarf better imo

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defensive removal+passive crit dam

flat tide
#

But fire dwarf is poggers

lavish heron
#

yeah but with DID you get dot drop from sin and casters

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and a prime stat boost

nimble jasper
#

they look better yeah

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regular dwarf stoneform removes dots too

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idk main issue with dark iron is you have to burst with that stat buff

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else its moot

flat tide
#

Zug zug

lavish heron
#

you mean

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as a warrior you aint zuggin every stat boost ๐Ÿ˜„

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for shame

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๐Ÿ˜„

copper hare
#

So let me get this clear

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Arcane is still hitting for 160k+ with 3 different abilities

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and arms damage was too spiky?

#

blizzard is a joke

flat tide
#

Calm down xD, just take rebound and blow them up :3

sharp meteor
#

like good grief trying to heal even gutter mmr shuffle is awful

copper hare
#

and do 350k in a gcd

flat tide
#

To be fair a lot of casters damage is instant because they can't get casts off if melee are competent

nimble jasper
#

im still firm on my theory

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mage dodges nerfs cuz bad players make mage

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look 100x worse than it is

lavish heron
#

oh yeh

nimble jasper
#

like warrior is way easier to pick up

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than mage

lavish heron
#

if you good with mage you can rickroll anything

nimble jasper
#

at rat leagues

copper hare
#

mage in my lobby didn't even target the healer, he just focus arcane surge into arcane blast

#

140k into 170k

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and he blew him away xd

sharp meteor
#

ya focus casts surprisingly aren't more popular for big nukes

copper hare
#

mage was 3.3 tho, not a scrub

sharp meteor
#

can dome somebody randomly

#

ya

copper hare
#

mages that know how to press buttons are disgusting

sharp meteor
#

didnt rly ever see it until like high glad range

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then u get focus bolted

nimble jasper
sharp meteor
#

because they know your stop is reflect

nimble jasper
#

mage without hands

sharp meteor
#

and you reflect but sike it's on teammate

nimble jasper
#

more useless than melee without hands

nimble jasper
copper hare
nimble jasper
#

boomy is def less popular for a reason

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esp since reclone reqs better timing

copper hare
#

boomy was like put dots up, root beam on cd and press some surges for multiple years

nimble jasper
#

yeah more pve dam casters generally are more noob friendly

copper hare
#

at least if you just wanted to get glad

nimble jasper
#

than one like mage

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which is a bit more go based

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prior to sl saw so many priests who did nothing but pve dam and rot all game

strong orchid
#

Since DF came out, the net doesn't work for dismounting players. Is there still a way for dismounting flying players outside of DF, such as in Uldum?

muted surge
#

Does the bloody one only work for dragon flying?

strong orchid
#

The Qalashi Wingshredder? yes.

inner elbow
#

what the fuck is wrong with rogue players

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qued a skirm, me and a sham against a rogue

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rogue hesitates to open, then proceeds to one shot my sham in a duel

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then its just me vs the rogue and it goes on for like 20 mins, until 100% damp

#

i eventually got him in the end and my god it felt good

#

but why do people do this

steel trout
#

U stayed in a skirm for that long Whuh

inner elbow
#

yes critcake

nimble jasper
#

if he was half decent you were dead

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5mins in

inner elbow
#

true dunno how i even lived that long

nimble jasper
#

no i mean if he was half good he does soft go

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gets trinket

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then kills next dr

spice hornet
#

i like how lock can keep a perma 0% chance to crit curse on your for an entire game

nimble jasper
#

so hes kinda shit

inner elbow
#

i just dont get the logic behind it

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he's wasting everyones time

#

including his own

nimble jasper
#

i mean i agree

#

hes just bad

#

half decent you dont have to wait that long to kill

#

reset the moment other guy trades wall and/or trinket

lavish heron
#

to be fair

#

to get good with mage

#

is painnnnnnnnnnnful

nimble jasper
#

not really

#

if you grasp the game at a decent rating you can play mage

lavish heron
#

meh im 1800-2k

nimble jasper
#

2400 glad SL ret warr players who won games entirely off pve dam

lavish heron
#

and i still struggle with mage

nimble jasper
#

probably not

#

yeah its mostly knowing goes resets etc

lavish heron
#

im semi decent with other casters

#

but mage just dont click for me

#

happens

#

and they got a nerf to their bomb

#

but nothing else

pure hornet
#

You guyz tested slam?

#

Is it better than rend?

muted surge
#

Hope that answers your question

pure hornet
#

Unm

#

Is that a yes?

nimble jasper
#

mage you cant really just turret at people

#

prob highest skill floor caster

thick reef
#

If you are shit with Mage, you will get shat on

nimble jasper
#

uhh mage has a higher floor

thick reef
#

Simple as

nimble jasper
#

psure low floor means easy to pick up

thick reef
#

Low floor means if you are shit it will reflect

nimble jasper
#

uhh

thick reef
#

High floor means a retard can play it and do well (SL Fury)

nimble jasper
#

low skill floor is a lower minimum

#

to be effective

#

you got it mixed up

thick reef
#

Nope

#

Low floor means it's bad if you are bad

#

High floor means it can carry a dumbfuck

nimble jasper
#

idk look it up

#

low floor means easier to pick up

thick reef
#

No, that means it is easy to learn

#

Which may indicate a higher floor

nimble jasper
#

๐Ÿค”

#

im pretty sure a low skill floor means a dumbo can be effective with it

nimble jasper
#

hmm so a league mixup

#

but yeah point stands mage is prob the caster where if you are missing core concepts

#

you arent gonna succeed as much

thick reef
#

Yes, because of low floor

nimble jasper
#

so league seemed to mix terminology up

#

in reverse

thick reef
#

Granted, it's probably got the highest ceiling

nimble jasper
#

yeah you watch tourney mages play and its uhh

thick reef
nimble jasper
#

nolifer before he quit

#

best mage game has had

#

probs

#

sl fury was basically like dh

#

oogabooga damage

#

or sinful arms

full sonnet
#

who the fuck works at blizzard

nimble jasper
#

I still think sub is one of the higher ceiling specs

full sonnet
#

and mingles with my arms

#

every single time the spec is better than dogshit tier

nimble jasper
#

but assa exists

#

so class floor becomes a meme

full sonnet
#

they're riding that assa dick hardcore

nimble jasper
#

besides assa gaping every melee

full sonnet
#

why the fuck would they buff slam out of all other dmg sources

nimble jasper
#

invalidate rdruid existence (good idea but)

full sonnet
#

how they can be so out of touch with the spec

nimble jasper
#

theyโ€™re out of touch with alot

grand tendon
#

Haven't played for a week ish, my warr feels like fucking crap suddenly

nimble jasper
#

?

#

its literally fine

#

assa is just overtuned

#

cuz they give it like 4 slap on the wrist nerfs

full sonnet
#

then its not fine

nimble jasper
#

one spec being overtuned

full sonnet
#

you're fucking yourself by playing arms

nimble jasper
#

doesnt mean arms is suddenly bad

full sonnet
#

6 sec stuns 100 to 0 clown fiesta like shadowlands all over again

#

fk me even BFA with all the corruptions wasnt that bad

nimble jasper
#

bfa assa was even worse

#

arms was also anus in bfa

full sonnet
#

Played holy arms in 2s

#

we owned the system

nimble jasper
#

2s

full sonnet
#

not a single assa rogue could do shit to me

nimble jasper
#

LOL

full sonnet
#

ah yeah

#

sorry

nimble jasper
#

ok i thought we were talking about the bracket that mattered

full sonnet
#

i forgot that the only pvp in the game is 3s

nimble jasper
#

if yoy somehow ignored bfa rmpala

#

being obnoxious the whole expac

#

at what mmr even

full sonnet
#

1200

nimble jasper
#

you lost to any half decent assa disc

full sonnet
#

1250*

nimble jasper
#

or hunter rdru

#

๐Ÿงข

#

this reeks of a mighty strong troll

#

if you think bfa arms was better

full sonnet
#

no i think the game felt better

#

they started going fucking nuts with the damage in sl

#

random one shot abilities

nimble jasper
#

i mean yeah damage is too high

#

but bfa was way too slow

full sonnet
#

even with the tentacles fiesta that happened in the last season

#

it felt like you had so much more control over the dmg

nimble jasper
#

tentacles

full sonnet
#

i cant heal pvp now

#

i cant

#

i just cant

late nacelle
#

I oneshot someone with heroic throw in bfa

nimble jasper
#

tell me you only played early corrupted season

#

without directly saying it

late nacelle
#

Worst season I ever played by far

nimble jasper
#

gushing wounds was 10x more aids than tendies unless pre icd change

nimble jasper
#

oh triple tendie proc

#

guess i die

#

๐Ÿคก

late nacelle
#

It seriously made me consider quitting the game for good

nimble jasper
#

arms was in an infinitely worse state in bfa

#

then uhh

#

sinful season arms

#

best melee in the game

full sonnet
#

fk bfa arms

late nacelle
#

I liked the giga slams from bfa

nimble jasper
#

somehow more braindead than

copper hare
#

what a fun meta that is

nimble jasper
#

dh

nimble jasper
copper hare
#

good thing they buffed the best lock spec already

#

so they finally do dmg

#

:-)

nimble jasper
#

hey locks gonna qq

#

until 0.5s bolts

#

come back

full sonnet
#

destro was retarded in bfa sure

#

fire mage too

#

but that was like, thats it

late nacelle
#

You guys know entite game is balanced around who cries the loudest right?

#

Its a psyop

#

All of it

nimble jasper
#

bfa assa

full sonnet
#

bop vendetta

#

sleep

nimble jasper
#

yeah good thing vendetta cd

#

was shorter than bop

full sonnet
#

you had 2 bops, a bubble, a bubble with 100% sac,

late nacelle
#

Tbh in shadowlands

#

Those on use dmg aoe trinkets

#

Were fking retarded too

nimble jasper
#

spellsteal bop

#

die in halfcheap

late nacelle
#

Rogue mage

nimble jasper
#

the real bfa rmx experience

late nacelle
#

Oneshot by trinkets

nimble jasper
#

spite

#

ahahahahhaa

full sonnet
#

still better than shadowlands and dragonflight

#

tells you something

nimble jasper
#

debatable

late nacelle
#

Dragonflight s1 top 3 season of all time

nimble jasper
#

i spited a lock once we killed him through 100% wall and overgrowth

full sonnet
#

remove all shadowlands abilities from the game

#

covenant shit

late nacelle
#

Nah

#

Add all the rest too

#

And azerite powers

nimble jasper
#

most of the aids ones are gone besides like

late nacelle
#

Triple the amount of talents in talent tree

nimble jasper
#

echoing reprimand

late nacelle
#

I want huge build variation

full sonnet
#

just change the name of the game to poe basicly

late nacelle
#

Yes

#

Best game

full sonnet
#

not on that level of autism, sorry

nimble jasper
#

honestly

#

s4 bfa hpal

late nacelle
#

Its not even that complex

nimble jasper
#

still the dumbest spec they made after bfa s4 warlock

late nacelle
#

U should try dwarf fortress

nimble jasper
#

sac two goes in a row

#

cuz ineffable

#

dogass game

full sonnet
#

i like dwarf fortress but its different for me

late nacelle
#

Its 10x

#

More complex than poe

full sonnet
#

poe is not complex its autisic

late nacelle
#

Poe is childs game in comparison

nimble jasper
#

i just mid corrupted season gave up playing with hpals

#

cuz most were god awful

#

and carried by cdr

full sonnet
#

watch the guide, follow the guide, spam spam spam, sleep sleep sleep, spam spam spam

nimble jasper
#

wings on 30s cd

#

lmao

late nacelle
nimble jasper
#

or sinister season rdruid

late nacelle
#

Trade is just braindead

nimble jasper
#

that season

#

was actually the worst

copper hare
#

the last time (for me) arena was really fun was bfa s1

copper hare
#

since then it's just a pain

full sonnet
#

speaks da truth

nimble jasper
#

i dont think a season made me quit as hard as bfa s2

full sonnet
#

S1 BFA

copper hare
#

they started so good with balancing this expansion

full sonnet
#

IT WAS SO GOOD

copper hare
#

and now we back to the usual stuff

nimble jasper
#

why was damage so slow

#

in sinister

full sonnet
copper hare
#

damage wasnt even slow, but healer cds actually meant something

#

and you couldnt just global something until you used cross cc

nimble jasper
#

it was giga slow

#

rdruid got one rejuv off

#

gg

#

lmao

#

tank trinkets

#

tridents

#

holy fk

full sonnet
#

i'm starting to hate any kind of grind mechanic, ever, anywhere, now, its such a retarded thing to waste time on if there is no depth other than "haha rng goes brr"

carmine vine
#

gnome or dark iron dwarf for an arms war these days?

nimble jasper
#

fast meta is fine but df is way too cd reliant

full sonnet
#

does gnome racial trigger trinket cd?

copper hare
nimble jasper
#

and classes still kind of hit like noodles outside of cooldowns

brazen rock
full sonnet
copper hare
#

and dark iron is probably better for like tournament/super high rated stuff

teal light
#

All racials trigger trinket 30 second CD.

nimble jasper
copper hare
#

for average mmr/ladder go gnome

nimble jasper
#

cd reliant

brazen rock
nimble jasper
#

specs go from limp dick to nuclear bomb

carmine vine
nimble jasper
#

also deathmark doesnt kill in opener at least now

full sonnet
#

read what i said

#

i dont disagree with you

copper hare
#

So many mages/bm hunter/prevoker now and perma roots, gnome shits on that stuff

nimble jasper
#

maybe in 2s

full sonnet
#

im saying def cds dont do shit now

teal light
nimble jasper
#

where damp ramps super quick

copper hare
#

Like playing vs bm hunt as gnome feels like a different game

nimble jasper
#

just comparatively though

brazen rock
nimble jasper
#

week 1 i def messed around with assa and killed rdruids through all their cds

teal light
#

What other on use racial does a gnome have?

nimble jasper
#

in a deathmark opener