pvp

[steep inlet]

nah

[slender lion]

Bit gay then

[steel trout]

Its for the stamina

[muted surge]

But incap and fear isn’t a problem most of the time, also it doesn’t stack

So you spend 2 talent points for 5% stat

[steep inlet]

yep

[muted surge]

Stam

[slender lion]

It is annoying af when u get cc'd into oblivion tho

[steep inlet]

its not good

[slender lion]

Just afk the rest of the fight

[muted surge]

Instead of lower kick cd or so

[steel trout]

Its fine

More survivability = more time in bstance = more dam

[dark sparrow]

@steep inlet are you playing the bleed build or can you link what your running rn?

[green wyvern]

bleed is bad

[steel trout]

And u want dam in shuffle

Roar is good

[steep inlet]

i have to redo it with overpower buff/executioner nerf

[steep inlet]

5% stam does nothing pls

[slender lion]

Genuinely terrible for switching too dstance. But I never get focused enough for it since I survive just fine in bstance

[steel trout]

But 1 sec cd on kick does?

🥸

[green wyvern]

its better than 5% stam

[steep inlet]

1 sec and +5% dmg

does a lot yes

[dark sparrow]

it gives you 5% increased dmg

[scarlet barn]

Seems bit low but i can get behind it

[steel trout]

Dam isnt broblem

[muted surge]

How much is 5% in actual hp

[green wyvern]

wait

[steel trout]

Broblem for arms

They die

[steep inlet]

listen defend a not optimized build if you want

[slender lion]

Depends on your hp lol

[green wyvern]

Why do you people think 5% stam increases your survivability

[steep inlet]

as long i dont play it

[green wyvern]

ROFL

[slender lion]

400k would be 20k

[steel trout]

Yes i will trust merce and blizo

Over you

🤪

[muted surge]

It’s max hp and not base?

[steep inlet]

Blizo ?

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Tarren Mill/Blizo

where do you see this shit

there is no 5% stam

[muted surge]

But 20k more max doesn’t really help I believe

[steel trout]

He explained reasoning for it

[steep inlet]

where do you see it ?

[steel trout]

Where what? He maybe dont play it rn

[green wyvern]

people here are completely cooked

[steel trout]

Joe fernandes was talking about it

[steep inlet]

lol k

[steel trout]

And blizos reasoning for it

[steep inlet]

source ?

of blizo talking about it

[green wyvern]

whats blizos reasoning

[steel trout]

Ye lemme go find a random Joef vod LOL

[steep inlet]

i didnt talk about joe

[steel trout]

It was on his stream

If u think its bad for shuffle

[steep inlet]

he didnt stream since years

blizo

wtf u say

zzz

[steel trout]

On JOES STREAM

[green wyvern]

5% stam is bad

[steep inlet]

i DIDNT talk about joe

you said blizo

where is blizo source ?

[tropic wave]

If you get too many survivability talents your healer gets lazy

[steel trout]

Are u dense

[green wyvern]

5% stam is not a survivability talent

[steep inlet]

man i ask for blizo source and you talk only about joe

[steel trout]

it was on joes stream

[green wyvern]

its a talent that helps you survive one shots in pve

[steel trout]

Where blizo

Talked

[steep inlet]

source = menace on discord

k

[steel trout]

Yes u dont have to believe it, its fine

[tropic wave]

Damage reduction > stam for survivability

[green wyvern]

damage > stam for survivability

[polar marsh]

150 strength or 111 strength 300 stamina?

[steep inlet]

2nd

[prime lion]

more overall value

[green wyvern]

so many sussy rmt people in 3s now

[muted surge]

So we want the stam! Ha!

[steep inlet]

lol

its not the same choices/sacrifices

[sage raptor]

But how? The people on the forums say it's impossible.

Hi Troma

[steep inlet]

yo popo

[dark sparrow]

man reading this shit and trying to figure out the best build rn kinda sus

[green wyvern]

I can show you my build

[steel trout]

Trust r1 build or be convinced by ppl in this disc

🥸

[green wyvern]

that I reached top 20 in shuffle with a month ago

since people are spam posting shuffle builds

[lean burrow]

check pins

[grand scaffold]

are you that guy who was complaining he doesnt know what to do after getting legend?

[lean burrow]

move exec precision to fatality

[green wyvern]

theres nothing to do in shuffle after legend yes

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-open-eyed-laughing-crying-gif-16812895

[green wyvern]

?

[grand scaffold]

first world problems right here

[green wyvern]

I'm mad at blizzard for not implementing more rewards

theres a 1k mmr difference between legend and r1 ladder

also 3s being dead and having the best looking mount locked behind it is just

low iq game design

[steel trout]

better start queueing then

make it alive!

[green wyvern]

nah

[sage raptor]

Yeah. Make it inflated so I can push easier

[steel trout]

cry abt it being dead and then do nothing abt it 🤓

[grand scaffold]

go get 3's mount

stop complaining bruh

[steel trout]

if everyone who cried about it queued

maybe it would be alive !

[grand scaffold]

these issues arent hard to solve

[steep inlet]

yeah ndogo sure come in EU fight R1 players at 1900

you will see if its not hard

[grand scaffold]

😂

[green wyvern]

well I would q

if lfg wasnt empty

[steep inlet]

yep

[green wyvern]

it's not like I dont want to play

[grand scaffold]

eu dead af sheesh

[steep inlet]

giga dead

everyone is in solo

like 99% of playerbase pvp

[scarlet barn]

prob cause they found out they need half the skill to progress in solo shuffle

So they gave up on harder content

[steep inlet]

[steel trout]

i didnt face much r1 at 1.9

mglads but not r1s 🥸

[grand scaffold]

^

sounds more like it

[tropic wave]

Because it's easier to queue solo than to find a team first. And if you gotta pug with randoms might as well solo shuffle instead

[grand scaffold]

^

[green wyvern]

you will never find a team if you dont pug with randoms though

its unavoidable

which is blizzards flawed design

[steep inlet]

2000 2100 if u prefer menance

[slow estuary]

mike mind linking build?

[steep inlet]

and full mglad at 1800 19000

[slow estuary]

looking to find a solid build seems like unhinged with rend still best

[steel trout]

good way to improve

is to q rn

[zenith summit]

how do you guys burst usually?

[green wyvern]

I was playing ms no bleed build

[zenith summit]

do u pop all cds or stagger ?

[slow estuary]

starting to run DR on teams that cant kite as easy

[green wyvern]

blademasters/spear/unhinged

I would never play bleed

I prefer clear kill conditions

rend is shit

its a filler

I didnt play it back then

[slow estuary]

you like the dbl storm?

not to much foa fan of it

[green wyvern]

ye

[slow estuary]

if you dont pick up rend for filler on the off globals u dont ahve OP execute or MS up what are you hitting? just refreshing hamstring?

[grand scaffold]

slam

but slam is goooooofy

[slow estuary]

slam takes like 5 talents

[green wyvern]

ignore pain will reset your overpower

but if you truly have empty globals

use hamstring/piercing or any of your peel abilities

[slow estuary]

can you link build?

[green wyvern]

its basically what pikaboo played in awc

[tropic wave]

I just play skullsplitter instead of rend. Rend feels useless

[green wyvern]

pikaboo the only guy with balls big enough to play warrior

[grand scaffold]

get rend

[slow estuary]

i just started palying war this week, id like to hit 2.4 before weeks over in SS at 2100 atm

[green wyvern]

huge respect

[slow estuary]

luckily been side gearinga ll my alts so wars 423 with 4pc

[steel trout]

roar is very good in shuffle

[grand scaffold]

yah

[green wyvern]

this depends

usually against very good players

aka r1

you will have to pop everything to get defensive cds out of them

goes for any class

but if your enemies are bad

and you can force defensive cds by throwing only spear and using npthing else

by all means do so

[dark sparrow]

question, not sure how to spend my next conq. get badge but i already have conq insignia tho. Or replace 421 drakebreaker chest/legs with conq pieces

[tropic wave]

Full conq transmog set

[green wyvern]

isnt conq uncapped soon tho

does it really matter what you spend it on

[prime lion]

next week it will be

[prime lion]

unless u are super into minmaxing whether ur going haste or crit, the clear advantage would be to get a chest/leg upgrade

but as said, conq will be unlocked next week - so it wouldnt be an issue for long

[dark sparrow]

hmm true

also, i didnt do the catalyst quest last week. now i did 1 quest but i cant seem to find the other one, from this week

[steel trout]

if u miss u lose out

[dark sparrow]

wait what rlly? that makes 0 sense

[steel trout]

i agree

but its the way it is

[dark sparrow]

holy fuk i couldve done it last week but figured who cares since its only 3 set and i can just do both t his week

[lean burrow]

asmongold ai: "it is what it is"

"true and real"

[lucid walrus]

exzistance playing storm of swords(?) rn

incredible

[mild thunder]

hasnt joefernandes been running SoS for ages?

[lucid walrus]

no clue

haven't been watching joe bc EU time

[mild thunder]

it was either joe or smexxin

[twin mural]

hey guys im really enjoying playing the bleed specc RN. but if i understand it all correct its best to stack haste when playing roar/rend

am i wrong about this

[grand scaffold]

whats that

[mild thunder]

its probably best, yea but its not that big of a deal if you have mostly crit

conq is uncapped next week, just get some haste gear then

[twin mural]

yeah sounds good, cheers

[digital crater]

Is there a limit to how many sockets I can add with the vault shit things?

Already have 3 off the tiered medallion settings

[bright stream]

1 per item

dont use it on necks

each slot can only have 1 socket

other than neck

[bright stream]

big crit bleed feels pretty good tbh

still climbing tho so dunno how it'll go once I start hitting more difficult ratings

[rotund trellis]

I am still running the classic build with spear and crits, no slam. But not tested yet, I'll spend some time at the training dummmy to test out some things today.

[mint dagger]

Is slam one shotting people yet?

[hollow ore]

one shotting totem ye

not all of them tho 🤡

[bright stream]

I wish

I could block disc priests from gripping me

it's (the spec) a 1 man fotm clowncar

[grand scaffold]

fucj

back to 2600

garbage ques atm

[bright stream]

tough times

I played 3 sets and its basically time for bed

[grand scaffold]

bruh like i kept getting the SAME garbage warlock

and the SAME garbage dh

and in each game

it was healers that had substancial skill differences

like wtf

oh well

ill get my cr back tonight

[bright stream]

u runnin spear or bleeds?

[grand scaffold]

bleeds

like honestly rn

if i qued

ide get either that shitty dh

or that shitty warlock

AGAIN

like i was on the good healers team and dh showed up

bam

2/4

same thing happened the game before

like honestly how do these guys get over 1400

[bright stream]

2nd warrior time?

[grand scaffold]

nah

[bright stream]

I'd suspect its cause they understand how to play with/against a portion of comps/classes

but not versatile enough to do it all the time

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its so shit

[bright stream]

its the 40 yard healer problem

[steep inlet]

i'm testing the 5 stam shit dogo

[bright stream]

sit 40 yards back, no where near a pillar and so you're just grounded as melee

[steep inlet]

it put me a 400k+ hp now

lets see

[bright stream]

is this shit even worth?

I suppose healers at mid-high mmr are substantially useless

[steep inlet]

dunno will test

[grand scaffold]

like idk man

its so depressing when you get bad ques

and it isnt your fault you get losses

[twilit patio]

preach

[bright stream]

definnitely need an alt mane

something that ungabungas

[twilit patio]

i did that, now both are at same cr floating between 2.2-2.4

i either get triple caster lobbies or teammates that dont use defensives

[bright stream]

feels like

we about to do big caster meta

[grand scaffold]

idk im down 100 cr

and if ques rn are bad

[bright stream]

BM hunter basically just good arms warrior atm

[grand scaffold]

then ques at night will be good

[grand scaffold]

bm hunter is better

[twilit patio]

^

[bright stream]

its just because its 50% ms on 40 yard range

so it can stand/move where it wants to

[twilit patio]

you mean they afk and spam barbed shot while theyre pets kill you

[bright stream]

playing into casters and having to move to them feels like this

[grand scaffold]

idk man bad ques tend to really make you sad

[bright stream]

erry game

[grand scaffold]

-_-

like i went 1-5

got back to 2700 with a 5-1

then double 2-4

BECAUSE OF THE SAME STUPID FUCKING DH

[twilit patio]

lol it happens man, i was 2386 yesterday and droped down to 2090

cuz of triple casters on the zm arena 5x ina row

[grand scaffold]

nah casters aint a problem for me

its FUCKING STUPID PLAYERS

[twilit patio]

you cant win on that map

with tripel casters

too open

[bright stream]

casters are a problem for healers when theyre a problem

strongly highlights healers with shit positioning and shitty dispel management

[grand scaffold]

yeah

yeah

idk rn ques are DOGSHIT

nobody play rn

[bright stream]

its very late for americans

./early

[twilit patio]

4am west coast

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[bright stream]

get a little splash of SA and OCE rn tho

[grand scaffold]

thats when the dorks play i guess

ima play when normal people play

[twilit patio]

rude

[bright stream]

hella rude, all 12 OCE players are offended

[elfin surge]

slam sucks

[twilit patio]

hi mud

[grand scaffold]

told you

[bright stream]

yeah I'm not surprised

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-open-eyed-laughing-crying-gif-16812895

[elfin surge]

hi

[bright stream]

even if it was good like

its not ms

[twilit patio]

so it is officially bleed build #1 now

thats what ive been playing anyway 8/10 rounds

[grand scaffold]

finally people are realizing what ive been saying for 5 days

[bright stream]

I was just waiting for it to be true since fury got gutted

[elfin surge]

rend always

[bright stream]

spears cool, hate it in PvP

[grand scaffold]

hahahahahaha

i thought you were slam advocate

[bright stream]

yeah seen you getting emotional about rend

[grand scaffold]

😂

[elfin surge]

idk i still like spear. Been seeing a lot of people playing roar bleed build but without sks

[twilit patio]

i like sks, it catches alot of ppl offguard

[bright stream]

havent really had much chance to play it

[twilit patio]

like if someone is 50% and you csmash with full deep/rend they die if you get any crits

[bright stream]

I reckon I must be like a solid 1-2k games off being as good on my arms warrior as I can be on my unholy dk tho so

lots of shit I'm not super tight on

[bright stream]

are people packing a SKS WA somewhere?

[twilit patio]

i have rend and deep wounds tracked personally

and reffresh both before i sks

[bright stream]

put traffic light circle with the ~value in the middle

red for nokill, oranage or crit kill, green for non-crit kill

[elfin surge]

tbh i feel like nothing has changed

[bright stream]

literally wait til it lights up, zero thinking thats the dream

[elfin surge]

same builds and same damage

[bright stream]

rogues fucking bananas still

thought this shit was meant to get toned down

[elfin surge]

yea assa still crazy

[bright stream]

shit tier healers just die to no cd assass rogue constantly

[elfin surge]

havnt seen much destro yet since the buffs

[bright stream]

reckon its magic dam or physical at the top atm?

seems like a lot of physical to me

[grand scaffold]

@worthy fern

still trying out slam?

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-open-eyed-laughing-crying-gif-16812895

[steel trout]

[bright stream]

@grand scaffold mate arms feels, realll rough tonight in queues

I was already struggling into mage - feels like I'm hard feeding into it now

[grand scaffold]

imo

dont play atm

ques are bad

really bad

bunch of dunces running around in a parade

[bright stream]

loool

gonna play a round as fury and see how it feels

I'm mostly chillin for the season now

[steep inlet]

the 4 part caster are maybe really dangerous into us rn

[bright stream]

don't think I've got the time/energy for anything other than maybe a crack at glad mount if the participation goes up

thought about doing like a r1 ss push but

don't think I'm ready as arms, dunno how I'd go as fury

[rotund trellis]

good news fellas! arms is finally shit.

[bright stream]

if it is I don't think its got much to do with us getting a couple of nerfs

just caster overlords being returned to the throne and disc being prominent

[rotund trellis]

disc is obscene

[bright stream]

I can't stand it

[green wyvern]

nothings changed

[bright stream]

feels like when you play with it

its doing nothing

[green wyvern]

assa/disc still commit war crimes

[steep inlet]

not at all rofl

[green wyvern]

3s super dead

[rotund trellis]

it's probably me being total shit. lost 10 in a row, MS hits like a wet noodle, one shotted by PRIESTS. Bleed build feels meh

[grand scaffold]

no

dont play rn

dunces are parading

[rotund trellis]

what you mean?

[muted surge]

That it’s the others fault and not yours

And you shouldn’t ms, you should slam :>

[warm portal]

SLAM IS BACK

[elfin surge]

[rotund trellis]

god guys I know your joking but something in me tells me to try slam build

[grand scaffold]

are you guys seriously playing slam?

😂

[rotund trellis]

i HATE PRIEST WITH MY VERY LIFE

no one should be able to be a healer and do 60k damage with an insta ability

[worthy fern]

@grand scaffold no it’s shit

Just never have a chance to press it

op blasts now though

[grand scaffold]

😂

😂

[shy aurora]

Why?

[grand scaffold]

bro

its a bunch of dunces parading atm

i got my rating tanked by the same dh 2 games in a row

[worthy fern]

Op top dam if you include seismic waves

@grand scaffold i went 2-4 2-4 3-3 3-3 last night

Fucking sub rogue 5-1 both my last lobbies

[grand scaffold]

bro

i today

i went

1-5

5-1

[worthy fern]

Just duel kills anyone who trinkets

[grand scaffold]

2-4

2-4

first game demolished by a garbo lock when i was on the good healers team

other healer sucked

last 2 games

griefed by a terrible dh

[worthy fern]

How do you counter sub if you know you can’t trinket til he duels you so he gets me to like 30 percent the presses duel, i trinket parry he step cheap secret techs me for the rest of my health

[grand scaffold]

oh

uh

against sub just be careful about your positioning

[worthy fern]

Trinket fear insta probably

Instead of parry

[grand scaffold]

its really hard for me to beat a good one

but i usually do

[worthy fern]

This is all in the opener man

Healer sapped

[grand scaffold]

oh

in the opener?

pop warbanner

and sit d stance

if they go to kill banner

they waste a solid hit they couldve smacked you with

[worthy fern]

Was in d stance, didn’t get banner off, was trying to hold trinket and he just popped duel late

[dark sparrow]

just had affli, destro sp lobby POG

[worthy fern]

I think trinket fear woulda been the play

[dark sparrow]

went 3-3 tho

[grand scaffold]

well probably just try to get banner off

[dark sparrow]

thats a W in my book

[worthy fern]

Cause he had already trinketed my bolt

[grand scaffold]

its your best shot

[dark sparrow]

destro casually doing 123k cb crits

[grand scaffold]

maybe rally if you need to

[sterile cairn]

is there pvp communities such as rbg's lf people guys?

[grand scaffold]

unfortunately not

-_-

atleast not that ive found

ide prob go through lfg and add people you think are good or you get along with

and eventually build your own team

[rotund trellis]

4-13. sounds an awful way to start a day off work.

85% of the kills were shadow word death

[dark sparrow]

sounds like a skill issue to me

[rotund trellis]

always has been.

[shy aurora]

Yeh i dropped aswel todsy

[grand scaffold]

all g

[warm portal]

Turn it into 13-4 by pressing slam

[frank knoll]

I’m having issues vs feral they do insane damage like 2 times everyone else’s

[grand scaffold]

are you seriously playing slam?

[rotund trellis]

when in doubt, slam.

[warm portal]

Lmao no but if you put talents into it you can hit like 70k+ slams

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[warm portal]

I did it in a couple skirms

[frank knoll]

I beat one pretty nasty feral last night, we just sat him so he had to stay in beat the whole time and he didn’t do any damage

My healer was like “please stop his damage somehow” and I said Bet

[warm portal]

You must kill the cat

[frank knoll]

Feral kill target huh

[grand scaffold]

yeah feral dies

arms slaps ferals

[warm portal]

Its lobby dependant but yeah blast the fucking cat

[frank knoll]

Salute 🫡

After my losing streak, I had a lobby where I went 5/1
Felt good

[warm portal]

[rotund trellis]

grats mate

[grand scaffold]

wish me luck

[rotund trellis]

just pass lead, you'll be fine

[warm portal]

Gratz on the evoker rdruid lobby

[silver tendon]

Anyone has a good 1 button stance dance macro ? mine dont work anymore...

[crystal socket]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance; [stance:1,known:386196]!Berserker Stance; [stance:1,known:386164]!Battle Stance; !Defensive Stance

[silver tendon]

thx

[grand scaffold]

gotta say

i love seeing a frost mage get dumpstered

its so satisfying

[crystal socket]

I see you're playing Roar with I assume the 'bleed' variant (can't see SKS so I guess you're not playing with it)

How does it feel compared to spear?

[grand scaffold]

bro ngl

ive been hating on spear for like 2 weeks

[crystal socket]

Oh

I see :c

[grand scaffold]

but roar is really good

pumps

[quaint snow]

can you pm me your specc man?

[grand scaffold]

ill just post it again

i wish somebody would pin it

[quaint snow]

yeh pls

[grand scaffold]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWCJRCJJpUKJBAAAAEEJCkEQENIJJJhiEhEAEJAAAAAAAAkkSCCIQDB

[fair tide]

Roar pumps for sure

[quaint snow]

Thanks

[rotund trellis]

my man, thanks

[crystal socket]

I'm one 4-2 lobby away from 1.8 SS and I'm looking for a reason to queue up, and even if I'd like to try roar that may not really be the time

[grand scaffold]

😄

happy to help

[warm portal]

Spear chads rise up

[grand scaffold]

are you feeling confident?

[crystal socket]

On a scale 1-10

about 1.3

So def not

[grand scaffold]

ok

play some 3's and build confidence

after you feel warmed up

[quaint snow]

you need to be in a good mood

[grand scaffold]

jump in

tell me what specs you playing with and against

ill try to help

[grand scaffold]

not necessarily

[quaint snow]

learn rotation om dummy also helps sometimes to unrust

[grand scaffold]

sometimes being really fed up or mad helps

makes it so that you mentally wont accept defeat

[grand scaffold]

thats what i do

😄

[crystal socket]

Will try and do that, thanks

[grand scaffold]

mol and drake

[warm portal]

Everyone is different lol just que when you feel like it. But don't let being 1 game away from a milestone be the excuse to not que

[grand scaffold]

reminds me of drake and josh

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[quaint snow]

xD

[warm portal]

Yeah he's my brother

[grand scaffold]

oh really?

[rotund trellis]

I def need help with gear, can you take a look?

[warm portal]

No

[rotund trellis]

I have 700 conquest, capped, for purchases

[warm portal]

Your gear is fine. Buy a crit ring

[quaint snow]

brother from another mother ofc

[crystal socket]

went from 1770 to 1350 and now back at 1750, ain't my first rodeo :D but yeah you're right

[grand scaffold]

buy rings i think

[grand scaffold]

bro

i went to 2300

then 1950

then 2300

[rotund trellis]

thx that was my idea

[grand scaffold]

then once i got 2400

i dropped to 2200 severally

from 2500 dropped again

from 2600 dropped 1 or 2 times

from 2700 dropped twice

its so infuriating

[warm portal]

Thats just shuffle

[scarlet barn]

Nobody is trying in 3s anymore

Sad to see

[grand scaffold]

shuffle too fun

[crystal socket]

stonks.gif

[scarlet barn]

It is fun when you are winning yes

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[quaint snow]

i got the shuffle time shuffle time sadness

xD

[grand scaffold]

anyways dont let dropping discourage you

just keep going

youll feel sad for a while then youll actually hit 1800

and youll be happy af

[rotund trellis]

bro cheer up I'm here struggling to hold on my 1600s

[cobalt crystal]

Hey guys so I noticed one of my Macro's stopped working. in Shadowlands it was working fine

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

basically, the intervene part no longer works

I need to press it manually in another button.. anyone know how to fix?

[grand scaffold]

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

try this one

sometimes making a new macro fixes it

idk why

[cobalt crystal]

weird, will try, thanks

[scarlet barn]

You both posted same macro

[grand scaffold]

i know

but

making a new macro fixes stuff sometimes

like

my friends abom limb macro stopped working

he copy pasted it

all of a sudden

works

i posted mine just in case his has a type or something

im just saying tho

[scarlet barn]

That isnt issue with macro stopping to work suddenly. More likely it was accidental edit within macro menu

[grand scaffold]

we need bruin back

[cobalt crystal]

it works now

[full quiver]

They changed abomb spell id a few weeks back

[cobalt crystal]

thanks a lot!

[grand scaffold]

yeah

see

remaking the same macro

fixes it

no clue why

[full quiver]

Stupid raz

[scarlet barn]

I literally told you why

[grand scaffold]

dang

wish me some mad luck

[rotund trellis]

I needed this so bad

[grand scaffold]

grats!

[rotund trellis]

with the roar build

[grand scaffold]

nice!

you enjoying it

[muted surge]

Try slam now

[crystal socket]

Grats :D

[rotund trellis]

it was 100% slam damage

[rotund trellis]

I was running a very similar build already, and I like it. i struggle fitting rend in the rotation though

[grand scaffold]

use it as a filler

remove slam from bars

if it helps

[rotund trellis]

I have it as a filler already

these are my bars

fillerini row with rend and slam (lol)

[grand scaffold]

screw 2600

never going back

[grand scaffold]

well

[muted surge]

????

[grand scaffold]

bruh slam goofy

rend a better filler

[muted surge]

Okay true, it’s not a filler

It’s the main

[rotund trellis]

grats

[grand scaffold]

bruh

slam is hot trash

[grand scaffold]

thanks man!

[rotund trellis]

one day I'll go over 1800

[grand scaffold]

i like the way slam is in your rotation

[rotund trellis]

that day is not today

[grand scaffold]

its actually a fun idea

[grand scaffold]

nah after reset keep pushing

you can do it

😄

[rotund trellis]

reset? you mean server reboot?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i just call it reset

[rotund trellis]

I call it bathroom break

[grand scaffold]

lmao

thats a good one

i wonder

what gets you more cr

going 4-2

then 5-1

or going 5-1

then 4-2

[zenith bridge]

i'm gonna loose sleep over this one thanks

[grand scaffold]

hahahahaha

because

theoretically speaking

higher mmr with more wins at that mmr gets you more cr

BUT

higher cr with slightly reduce mmr with more wins over that cr

might get you more cr

idk

[crystal socket]

So

Queued up

Went 1-5

Oh well

[warm portal]

Warm up

Go again

[rotund trellis]

look at the bright side, it's not a 0-6

[crystal socket]

Almost was lol

But it's ok

[neon quest]

I have 4 conq pieces on my fury warrior, but having a hard time deciding if the tier set is worth it, any thoughts on converting or holding off? i could do all 4 pieces

[dark sparrow]

make tier > spec arms > succes

[warm portal]

Tier for fury isn't that good. But if you ever intend on playing arms it is

[rotund trellis]

make tier > spec arms > PLAY SLAM > success

[warm portal]

SLAM GANG

[polar marsh]

Make tier > abuse uncapped conq> buy glad

[neon quest]

speaking of that, is Slam coming back now?

seeing some people starting to talent into it/include in the rotation

[neon quest]

i see i see

[warm portal]

Its still a filler/totem killer. But you can blast 70ks with it if you actually talent into it lol

Only played with it in a couple skirms though

[polar marsh]

Spamming slam in your spear is fun

[north remnant]

How do you choose between spear / bleed build? My gut says take spear against slippery enemies like rogue / lock, and bleed against melees you can cleave

[zenith summit]

Cant lock just gate out?

[muted surge]

Yea

[elfin surge]

cant u force gate with spear?

[north remnant]

Question inspired from your stream yesterday actually. You would say "I like spear this game" and I realized I didnt know why you take spear vs bleed

[elfin surge]

idk 2s are a meme but ik i rather play roar and sks into other warriors cuz they just parry my spear ava

[full quiver]

Spears for Chad's

[elfin surge]

i saw it

@full quiver

[full quiver]

lies

[urban skiff]

We can spellreflect the hunt dot even if the hunt does not connect with us.

i just learned this

[ebon pivot]

I feel like every time I try bleed build, I just don't do enough damage anywhere. Never tried speccing into sks though...granted I'm a fury main so my arms knowledge is crap anyway

[urban skiff]

fuck nevermind, i got hit by the initial hit

[warm portal]

Parry it like a real chad

[grand scaffold]

ewll

well*

you might be doing it wrong

[rotund trellis]

bleed build gave me good results so far this morning.

but i played only one round so, don't listen to me

what ring enchants do you guys use?

crit or vers?

[quaint snow]

could you write your opener for that specc? rend always have to be up or what?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

always have to keep up rend

bro

[quaint snow]

on all targets?

[grand scaffold]

somebody better pin my build im just saying

[grand scaffold]

whoever you can hit

basically

[ebon pivot]

That is def a possibility. I thought bleed w/o sks was like the usual MS build just maintain rend and sub Troar for spear in the go.

With sks I'm assuming you'd blow your go, then apply a fresh rend fresh deep wounds then hit sks for big dam? Whenever I try that on a dummy it just gives me like maybe 30k, but I may be reading details wrong.

I haven't gotten to play much since reset yesterday, I only get late late night to play and the baby was awake all night haha so after tanking my rating from 1600 down to 1500 I got one round yesterday double warlock and a mage . Felt lucky I went 3-3

[grand scaffold]

howl

sweeping strikes overpower overpower

rend

[rotund trellis]

It's like you're speaking to my heart

[grand scaffold]

colossus smash

mortal strike

roar

avatar

after avatar bladestorm

you use regular bladestorm

the shit cranks hard

[grand scaffold]

😄

if you get the chance to put rend on someone

put it on them

[rotund trellis]

"target?"
"whoever I can hit, brother"

[grand scaffold]

oh nah

thats just who you put rend on

[quaint snow]

i see

whats the point of using avatar after CS MS etc?

[grand scaffold]

dont use sks

maybe its good

but i find it too risky

[grand scaffold]

target into melee cleave is the following

if enemy is a melee cleave with a disc priest or rsham

and your team is a melee cleave

you focus the rsham or disc priest

if you are a melee cleave against a melee cleave with a healer that isnt a disc priest or rsham

you focus the melee that dies easier

into caster cleaves you focus whatever will cause the most dmg to be stopped

[muted surge]

Some casters don’t seem affected by that tho

[grand scaffold]

against melee caster

[muted surge]

Still focus them?

[grand scaffold]

you focus the caster that is focusable meaning not arcane mages

[grand scaffold]

depends

is it a caster cleave?

is it melee caster

[quaint snow]

why would you use avatar after you used CS mortal strike roar etc.?

[grand scaffold]

because

blademaster's torment

you cant not mortal strike before that

and roaring after your burst is just so meh

otherwise unhinged will hit the wrong person

and you want 50% less healing while you are bursting

[steep cairn]

If using warlords use avatar before cs/ms/roar though?

[late nacelle]

dont use blademasters torment

bait talent

[grand scaffold]

what

its unpeelable dmg

its awesome

[grand scaffold]

yes

because you want colossus smash and mortal strike and roar to all crit

and be affected by 20% dmg from avatar

any other questions?

not busy atm so ask away

@mild thunder can you get someone to pin my build

[muted surge]

Is that new

[grand scaffold]

i really hope ret cant jump

that would be dumb

[quaint snow]

thank you! 😄

[muted surge]

Full ret rework

Might be a fun spec for once

[grand scaffold]

you got anymore questions?

[steep cairn]

In your original order with blademasters cs/ms and roar won’t be buffed by avatar though

[grand scaffold]

the dots will be

so will rend

and deep wounds

and the dot is whats so good about roar

[steep cairn]

I always forget everything is dynamic now, smol brain

[grand scaffold]

all g

you just want a shit ton of unstoppable dmg

and that sequence gets you exactly that

[late nacelle]

you can get

stuff like leech on gear from vault right?

what if someone ends up with like 30% leech

wouldnt that be busted af

[grand scaffold]

the gear from vault with leech doesnt stick in pvp

[late nacelle]

are u sure?

cos my number is same

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[late nacelle]

when i get in

[grand scaffold]

i tested it

[late nacelle]

hm

what about sockets

[steep cairn]

Ur saying tertiary stats aren’t enabled when you do pvp

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i am

[steep cairn]

Huh TIL

[grand scaffold]

whats til

[steep cairn]

Today I learned

[grand scaffold]

oh ok

[grand scaffold]

uh

are there leech gems?

ima buy some rn if there are

[late nacelle]

no

[grand scaffold]

then thats the answer i suppose

oh wait

[late nacelle]

like just regular gems

[grand scaffold]

you mean sockets on gear from vault

[late nacelle]

with stat

[grand scaffold]

yeah

those stick

[late nacelle]

any

7 sockets gang?

[rotund trellis]

7 sockets? how

[grand scaffold]

ayo

what the fuck am i looking at

[late nacelle]

weekly chest

1 socket

[grand scaffold]

focus frost mage?

[late nacelle]

yes

[grand scaffold]

ok

[rotund trellis]

what? can you explain? I thought you can have only one socket total, on neck

[late nacelle]

ur neck can have 3

then ur rings belt wrist and helm can have 1

[grand scaffold]

focus demo

or fire mage

answer fast

[late nacelle]

mage

[grand scaffold]

ok

bro

im being bullied

[late nacelle]

xd

SKS

and kill em

[muted surge]

What’s the reason behind focusing frost?

I noticed it in multiple lobbies that everone wants to go on them

[late nacelle]

u can onetap em

[rotund trellis]

what a great start

[muted surge]

Mhm

[late nacelle]

and they're not used to getting trained

so catches em off guard sometimes

and u discover

they actually got 0 clue what they're doing

[muted surge]

I see

Just feels bad to go against alter time and 2 blocks

[late nacelle]

just blood elf racial alter time

[rotund trellis]

1-2 let's get it back

2-2 I see the light

[flat dome]

It's either smash them or they smash you

[rotund trellis]

fuck me I guess?

topped dps 6/6 rounds, lost. ggs

[grand scaffold]

shit

unlucky

[rotund trellis]

next one let's go mate

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[rotund trellis]

bring it on, I say.

[grand scaffold]

idk how i get matched with players like that tho

fire mage

frost mage

and demo

then they just said

hey

lets bully this arms warrior

[rotund trellis]

I was 1 good shuffle away from 1800, first in my life. lost. do I cry? no. I keep going and SLAM

[rotund trellis]

tell me if I have to lose a round like this

[grand scaffold]

nah

you should be good

go rogue

[rotund trellis]

another loss, why.

[ebon pivot]

If I ever hit my 1800 rating for the mog I'll run slam spam for the lulz

Til then I'll listen to Ndogo and try to get the bleeds down

[warm portal]

Run spear and just do fucked up dam to 1 guy every match

1800 by the end of the week

[rotund trellis]

1-5 top dps as usual, group is shit and I die. lol i wanna quit today so bad. I'm so salty

[gloomy walrus]

So I just finished leveling my character should i just start with the bleed build to just grind and get comfortable with it from the jump?

[warm portal]

I swear advice that literally cannot fail is pick 1 target you know you can stick to and just do big fucking dam. You can ignore everything else just do fucked up dam to 1 person you will hit 1800 guaranteed or your time spent reading this back. You will lose some here and there but people at that mmr just fall over

[warm portal]

Play normal build

[gloomy walrus]

idk which one that is lol im under the impression the builds changes with the most recent changes

idk if it changes anything but im not exactly NEW to warrior it's just been years since i played it like SL S1

[rotund trellis]

150 ranks down in 2 games let's go

[gloomy walrus]

From a healer main PoV that and honestly hit whatever isn't LoSing your healer you'd probably get 1800 just not dying for free

but thats my biased PoV thinking dps could literally gain rating PvEing and not chasing

[ebon pivot]

Probably what I'll end up doing lol I get a full day to run myself dead in arena Saturday, hopefully I can push

[rotund trellis]

Fun thing, you lose games when your teammates die

[muted surge]

Do you actually see if your team is cced / what’s up with the enemies?

[rotund trellis]

cause the pala casts bubble at 95% health

[gloomy walrus]

Yea but you can only change one thing

and thats yourself

[grand scaffold]

caster fuckfest today it seems

[rotund trellis]

they just get dpsed to the ground and i have not enough tools to keep them alive as a freaking warrior

[gloomy walrus]

minimize your mistakes and you will gain rating its the solo que mentality don't look at your rating look at your mistakes

[gloomy walrus]

esp in solo shuffle because it's not like you don't face those same garbage team mates

[rotund trellis]

I mean I suck at this game probably like no one else, and that is a fact lol

[gloomy walrus]

nah it sounded like you've gotten close to 1800

it's unappreciated how many people can't get to 1800 next time your in a game legit look at the rating of your teammates

and how many games they'v eplayed

[rotund trellis]

oh I was 1 win away, literally 1 round win. now back to 1600

[gloomy walrus]

You have people with more games played than rating this expansion

[warm portal]

You can just pve people down up to 2100 if you have good uptime and don't line the fuck out of your healer

[gloomy walrus]

^ thats what im saying

[rotund trellis]

I don't die, in fact, I never died once in the past 2 shuffles. the enemy team kkills one of my teammates and I can't help it

I can intervene, rally, fear, stun, howl, but if they fucking die I have no clue

[warm portal]

Are you doing fucked up dam to at least one of them?

[gloomy walrus]

Ya if they are unsavable

means you can kill them

You know who to target if they can't be saved.

and if they are all dying for free makes them easy pve targets

[rotund trellis]

only in 3 of 6 rounds, IF my team doesn't suck anf IF in those rounds I get the decent healer

[gloomy walrus]

Stop that my team mentality

itll help you in the long run

[warm portal]

Yeah those shitters are on the other team too

Beat that ass

Free pointos

[gloomy walrus]

Might be a harsh take but one I use on myself

[azure willow]

so is slam back or ?

[gloomy walrus]

If everygame theres bads on my team. I'm the bad too

[warm portal]

Its better to have that mindset because you're probably more likely to look for holes in your own play

[rotund trellis]

I mean I don't understand how I go from a 6-0 at 1790 to two 0-6 in the span of 30 minutes

[gloomy walrus]

Yea but some people do tend to end up quitting from that

Honestly just means you were easier to carry

or were playing better

[rotund trellis]

oh dude i feel like quitting right now I;m so salty

[gloomy walrus]

Not a lot of people like self reflecting not just you

[warm portal]

That happens at all ratings dont sweat it. Thats just the shuffle. So many different variables

[gloomy walrus]

just by showing up you are beating 1000s of people who already gave up

God i didn't come into be a motivational speaker idk how to play this class anymore lol

[flat dome]

WW's have to be the most annoying thing to fight

[rotund trellis]

I mean I KNOW I am shit, I never got to this current level before, and I know nothing about pvp, but the fact that I am the same self and I oscillate that much means that, true, I suck, but secondly I deeply do NOT understand the way of playing this class

[gloomy walrus]

But yea whats the normal build now and am i so squishy that i need to hit ignore pain as filler

Streams,discords, youtube

[flat dome]

Yes, arms is paper

[gloomy walrus]

and if you wanna inflate rating but probably not get better gladiatorlossa probably still gets update

[warm portal]

Pretty much keep ignore pain on cd
If you're being hit and you don't have a cmsash go then just camp dstance

[flat dome]

And yes, people will bitch at you for being squishy, as if it is your fault

[gloomy walrus]

Oh i figured that as a healer

i always tell people to hit Arms

i dont even know if its the correct strat

[warm portal]

When I'm not on my warrior I always tell people to kill arms

[gloomy walrus]

it just seems to work

okay good

[warm portal]

And it usually works

[gloomy walrus]

healing just stresses me out so im going back to dps and I used to main warrior

i wouldn't even say stresses me but it def makes me angry enough to need a less infurating alt

[warm portal]

Warrior or dh is good for that. You just pve people down

[gloomy walrus]

i also gotta prove to myself i can pve and just not LoS my healer and gain rating

[grand scaffold]

fuckin casters

[wheat jay]

Gaming

5% buff

[warm portal]

Big dam

[rotund trellis]

at least you didn't dip 200 points, cheer up and queue

[grand scaffold]

yeah

now playing against boomy

fire mage

sub rogue

yuck

[wheat jay]

Should be super easy for arms

You play the best class among them

[scarlet barn]

[grand scaffold]

bro not into rmp

[warm portal]

The caster lobbies at higher mmr is real

You jump for joy when there's another melee in there

[wheat jay]

Tbh I don't think I despair into anything now

I can take care of anything on survi, can counter everything they use, but its still just weaker

Think I'll start playing diamond ice every game

So retards dont break it xD

[warm portal]

Tol'viron with mage sp ele

PAIN

[wheat jay]

Jokes on you i'm survi

[warm portal]

Specifically from arms pov

[rotund trellis]

how long is your waiting time btw? at 1600 is more than 35 minutes

NA

[warm portal]

Same at 2.7

[rotund trellis]

sometimes 45

[wheat jay]

Never trust 45min q

I did it once

Ended up with 2x prot pala healers

I requeue after like 12min now

[rotund trellis]

I mean it's not like I can choose lol

[warm portal]

Thankfully I've never had prot pallies

[rotund trellis]

oh ok

[feral heath]

wtf is up with all the casters. 2100 to 1700 happytimes

[rotund trellis]

💖

[frank knoll]

Demo lock still scary?

[warm portal]

Is it weird i dont mind 3 melee lobbies on my ele? But 3 casters on arms im insta tilted

[warm portal]

I personally think they are

[limber wagon]

just wait until rogue gets a real nerf, then there's only gonna be casters