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fury never should have had an ms to begin with
i know it most likely does not exist but what if: is there any guide on how to play against particular specs/comps
or if they do, it should be a milquetoast 25% ms
Like at no point is Fury ever going to kill shit outside of its incredibly shit burst window
yea you'll never win on first go as fury unless theyre actually afk
find it hard to play against mage/dru with my hpal trying to find some hints
Consider suicide as a viable alternative
lol
I'm not fucking with you, you aren't winning that
i get them low pretty easily but then i get spikes ( i do not remember the spell name) and i have to switch
waddle as much as you can, save mobility to trade. very very hard matchup
hpal claims he can heal me through my dmg through spikes but i do not believe that
if you waste mobility when you dont need to you will have your ankles broken.
if they're low, just hit through thorns
i wont kill mysefls with execute?
if they're like ~30%, and you see the kill opportunity, just go for it
Not if you kill
true true
yea try to end the game, prolonging is more likely loss
since youre on a timer w/ hpal cds
Also depends on Fury vs Arms too
arms
i am raiding actively i do not have enough gear to play two speca properly
cause i am not taking pvp vault ever
i mean i can accept defeat against those comps its okay
at least i feel good when i kill those hunters now
At that point you already did suck start a shotgun lmao
Hunter is a whatever matchup
You tag them once, you bleed em out, and watch them die in Turtle
still question stands would like some kind of guide or anything tp learn about different comps
you'll be waiting a while
the only person that makes actual matchup guides is bicmex, and he's a sv hunter
I am dumb big numbers enjoyer i do not play through bleed. But i am also learning and execute type build is easier to play i think
I mean maybe old guides too just to learn about what every spec does cause learning through pplaying is possible but really slow
and i am new at pvp so i only know this much
i dont even think there are any useful matchup guides from the past ~5 years
leveling characters helps but takes time
i was so tired of palas so i leveled one. helped shit ton
but if you have trouble into particular stuff, best thing to do is record gameplay and post it into the #810664169140518947 channel
Got you, thank you
Any war players to follow beside bajheera lol?
He is good its just he is the only one i know
Who makes content
Mud
Mud, but he only posts on his YT like twice a year now 
tbh
i dont think fury is bad atm
its pretty good i get them often above 2400
BUT
holy shit is it boring
bt
bt
magnusz is good if you can catch his annual stream as well
Annual lol
not a warrior main but Pika has been doing well on his warrior
fuck pikaboo
I watch pika for fun sometimes
we dont support that shit here
all the non-warrior content creators are absolute garbage
same as most of the warrior content creators 
Only thing i wish was a constant is spec differentiation - i am too invested in my fury in pve to spec rn and its painful to watch arms getting so much ahead
all specs are playable to decently high rating in shuffle
psure people play both in pve
if you enjoy a spec (even if its fury), just play it
Arms is quite good in pve too
you'll get more mileage out of mastering one spec than switching to whatever is best every few weeks
^
That’s true, but I love them both and would switch in pve if i did not have to recomb my stats which takes gearing. I liked it in SL when it was strictly arms pvp fury pve
Makes life easier
pve gearing 💤
but yea pvp gearing is easy, you can stat for whichever you wanna play
and if you wanna play both, run a haste-heavy arms build
still perfectly viable
really doesnt take much effort to swap out to a crit build either if you realllly wanted to for arms
arms statting is very flexible for pvp, there's no breakpoints or perfect % distributions
you also played arms in pve in SL
so idk what you're on about
sounds about right
uhh I could have sworn arms was good some fights in castle
but melee in general was god awful that tier
and inerva
but yeah people pretend that
minor secondary shift is gamebreaking
it isnt
arms felt pretty good at the start of sanctum
it was ye
warrior in general felt ass in Castle
pvp kinda w/e since most of your stats vers
got AOTC and just peaced out of it
i know some random monkey threw out 20% haste
and now every clueless default discord pfp andy parrots it
cuz they are incapable of independent thought
vers
You're right, I meant second best stat

My bad
Thank you
nws
who lol
pffft, only need one mortal strike if it hits massive
literally me 
lol
i mean ill trinket a disarm
assert ultimate dominance
nah just unequip weapon before they disarm
🧠
yea idk what this guy is doing, pretty sure he's literally 12
man
i remember when i thought this was cool
dude you've got a Venom pfp

thats an execute if ive ever seen one
LMAO
id be shocked if you were even old enough to vote
prob isnt
arms really does attract brainlets
mans gettin his digital success
keep farming them discord Ws
mfs on the spectrum cant read emotions
"Someone called out my bullshit. They must be mad!"
time for the weekly autist warrior ban
guy’s like the twitter zoomers with yb pfps
spamming ratio in every comment section
terminally online
lowkey made me chuckle 
i was 100% not this retarded at 17
prove it
he knows from twitter dawg
I bet you would share an ice cream with joe
What is going on in here
just some retard, zoomer-brained american dipshit thats another example of a failing education system
Tha boys typing 1024 characters each.
retardation
Sheesh.
great education system
what does ip stand for
ignore pain
Ignore Pain. 
man i sure do love the Skyhold discord for the hit game World of Warcraft.
Autism incarnate
worst part is this channel isnt even moderated, so no one here to ban 
america got jokes
this kids got major kyle energy
bro this isnt even gen z, this is american retardation
Not true. That care about my eiffel 65 disc
yeah no idea
I got my ass beat as a kid so I got kept in line
dont lump all Americans in with this retard
Youre not old enough to buy guns
this is what happens when you dont discipline your kids
Whoop your children
mf prolly listens to the Venom eminem song on his way to school
ya
tfw you're old enough to buy a gun but not to vote 
loser
Option lmaoooo
he misspoke

Get his ass
Bing chilling
self/play
truuuuuu
I wasnt lowballin lmfao
I was technically put in the “smart” class tho
bro I took algebra 1 in middle skool
while proceeding to yell every profanity under the sun
you sure it wasnt the class for "special" kids?
on fps
yeah back then
Now you cant even call kids retard on the internet
fucking weaklings
say it pussy
wont say it irl
Im black sometimes
so lame, am i right?
imagine being smart bro, so stupid lol
i just waste time on random discord servers instead of doing my homework bro
im gonna be a homeless bum at 18 
so lame, am i right?
imagine being smart bro, so stupid lol
i just waste time on random discord servers instead of doing my homework bro
im gonna be a homeless bum at 18 
That one's going in my compilation
go play classic u tard
did your dad forget who you are, too?
idk whats more autistic
Cigarettes > weed
vaping or weed
This chat has made me lose 96% of my remaining brain cells. And I just keep scrolling up and losing more... time to go back to sniffing glue.
no but people that go out of their way to say they smoke it
maybe u can do that one day
seek validation
guy wasnt even born when snoop was doing his actual wild shit
that is me
nah hes gen alpha
He calls himself an alpha unironically
Damn them nostrils.
the fact speed has a viewership
Big ol boogers
shows this gen is fucked
gen z is fatherless even tho most of em got fathers

the father is the internet
and not the og one
why would i need a dad when i can watch twitch streams all day?
nah they got many dads
stop writing this

like Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, etc
my dad died recently
his name was Joe Rogan
peterson used to be good, i swear 
Used to?
covid rotted a lot of peoples' brains
u said lol right when I typed the first message you virgin fuck
Jordan and Andrew aren't even comparable.
twitter is peak brainrot
yea now he's bought in to the woke brainrot shit
Where?
any time he stepped into actual politics, he gives the most brainrotted take ive ever encountered
or he just says a very long sentence that boils down to fence-sitting pointlessness
anybody who complains about woke people is terminally online
all the problems they complain about dont exist
Off to work?
no, his mum called him down for dinner
Off to middle school
off to get groomed by kevin spacey - he's just the right age
bro he aint even old enough to watch porn
Speaking of, Dicaprio got another gf. 19 years old.
Maybe one day
ive only got 5 years left before im too old
walfu
your waifu bouta be arrested for statutory rape 
dude probably thinks that means raping statues
kid*
man this brings me back to my Cata-Mop days
Wait, are we being ironic or are you actually retarded?
He sniffs them
Dark Brandon
dont worry, therapy is free in the us... oh wait
If only he was that cool
Hes badass wym
Contrary to popular belief, you can waive the ambulance fee in an emergency.
fun fact, australia has no ambulance fee
I unironically think Biden's better than Obama
W take
the bar aint set that high tbh
probably because obama did nothing
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besides fill a diversity quota
true art right here
all of our modern presidents should be jailed for war crimes
@nimble jasper 61k death
This spec is alright.
Oh, and it wasn't even a crit. Neato.
disc xd
too bad all my priests quit cuz game ass
and lfg discs use swap as first cd
instead of 1min dome
too much brain req for that
It'll only be a 7/10 at most because this game is poorly optimised.
swap first CD > walk into melee
shuffle disc 
Me when I queue for shuffle tomorrow. 
Anyone know how to hide the default blizzard arena frames? Using gladiusEx and I can't find a place to put the default ones where they aren't in the way
i watched an rdruid
go 0-6
yeah ig my fault
i didnt trinket when both my teammates not in cc
and have every cd
in 20yd
all the SL s2 glads panicking 
We return to a reasonable amount of dragons going out. 
L take
S1 SL was better than this tho

Crimson shuffle gonna be the worst.
4.2k exp dh lf team for 3s push
omg bro, edgy
Weren't they always 2k
he's just quotin huckleberry
Or was mop 2.2
pre bfa
God I can't remember
they were 2k in legion, used to be 2.2 i think in mop
No, it was 2200 until late mop, 2k to bfa.
in wotlk i think they were 2.4, no?
No
No, wotlk had elite weaponry and tabards.
yall givin out poopsock takes
legit
1800 for an armor set is L
Elite armor and weapons were 2.2 first season of mop when they had the ilvl jump
especially in shuffle
no meme imo legion was the best time to find someone to teach (read carry) you to your first pushes
And 2k last season
that shit means nothing now
think about how many players actually pvp
find some guy better than you
elite weapons were 2.1 in SL
Dude 1800 shuffle
It's like 1300 2s or 3s
Well 2k for the elite armor in the later seasons of mop
Just put the mogs on the vendor for 12 marks ea
They dropped it during mop I remember now
mop pvp was fuckin garbage
Missing my primal legs. 
and some nice priest carried me playing rogue not watching a single stun dr
Least I sniped demonic tho
and we still won every game fast
it should be cape(1800) > illusion(2100) > armor(2200) > weapon+tabard(2400) > gladiator
and armor not obtainable through shuffle imo
i did demonic elite in one session last day of the season
Why does it need to be reshuffled now
with some dh that never pvped before
because its way too easy
we just played paintrain every game
Who cares
and its lame af seeing everyone that wants it walking around with an 1800 set
and instagibbed half the teams in opener
I think at least 3000 players should be able to get glad mount
I got demonic elite playing arms dh
its called an elite set for a reason
arms dh disc
its not very elite when anyone that even remotely tries can get it
Idk man people still failing to get it now
There's tons of them
still tho how many people actually pvp
some of the people ive seen at 2400+
I mean, I hover around 1550 in shuffle atm
i know a dh who never pvped before
he got 2.2 in shuffle winning 85% of his games

I cant really defend the idea of the game disincentiving people to play an important part of the game
this is such a boring take
in like less than 100
Well yeah, DH is fucking easy as shit
its pretty lame when those rewards, especially those labeled as elite, are so easy to get
so is fury
I don't even enjoy arenas anymore honestly
then why play it?
I just do it because that's all my friends play
They won't touch anything else in wow
Then idk. It gets to the point where either I play flawlessly and my partners are retarded, or I don't know what I'm doing that's wrong
if all you do is pvp in wow, you should probably find another game ngl
i love wow pvp, but it isnt worth the sub if its all you do imo
pvp aint even fun to watch
and a rend keybind
I've told them that
Name a MMO with a better pvp though
none
Then I invite them to keys, raids transmog farming
no mmos have good pvp
Nah they just wanna sit in shuffle q is the new thing to do
glad shouldnt require people to put in 9-5 job hours
lost ark arenas look okay, thats about it
new world tried to be a pvp mmo and we all know how that went 
it doesnt tho
What should glad require them
new world pvp worse than bdo
its an issue with wow pvp in general tbh
if you're pushing <8 hours/week, and you're pushing properly, you can get glad
How does that answer my question though
Yeah not in this season lol
This season is pretty scuffed tbh
Watching laros sit at 2k cr on his alt
idk i just overwhelmed with dam
cant give a specific number but anything but that
I didn't
I didnt
Horrible game mode.for people who shouldn't be playing mmos
i never wanted shuffle
Yeah, but then you sit there and eat a bag of dicks because despite doing everything right the fucking Ret forgets bubble exists and at best you go 3-3
i havent played as much since december idk
i got 21 first 2 weeks
then said this game mode is cheeks
there's too much shit to learn about in pvp
It's 2023. Pressing a button to queue for a rated game mode is pretty mandatory at this point, wow was just behind the times
and people forget waiting longer in LFG for a healer than they do in shuffle queues
5v5 soloshuffle when?
if there wasn't a cool mount or gear shits pointless
Solo duo deep 6 when
wow is diff
I'm at the point now where Solo Shuffle should legit just have been 1v1s
other games dont have a role imbalance
wow isnt comparable to actual pvp games
1v1s is way too hard to balance
So like pve, yes?
rated duels 
1v1
Rogue main detected
rogue bracket
the fights are fun tho
Yah but ontop of shuffle they also made it take 5 mins to reroll
and are attempting to balance at least
idk assa
"attempting to balance"
rn
Yeah, I guarantee you I could level a DH to 70 and then just get 1800 ggez
my friend, may i introduce you to assa rogue
Or fucking Assa lmao
Pretty sure you can get Glad by plugging in your keyboard as Assa
ngl i played 5 games of 2s on my rogue
they're putting a lot of effort into tuning, no doubt
but they're missing basic shit
better than before at least
they only just now started semi-listening to players
idk, i feel like it takes a bit for rogues to be decent
Just because they are putting sprinkles on a pile of shit doesn't mean it doesn't smell like my ass after Taco Bell
it does not
kidney > blind healer > deathmark
win
barely even have to cc tbh
damage is that stupid
gouge trinket
rogue is the warlock of melee
yeah but perhaps rogue is such a flooded class i dont encounter many good ones
Rogue mains play with one hand on their dick and your girl's tiddy in the other
i think blackjack
rogue propaganda
Im all for nerfs if they get them though
needs nerf
trinket blind
but they are few and far between
Says every Rogue propagandist ever
oh look healer doing 30% less healing
Outlaw is the only real rogue spec
arghhhh
Insert Sea of Thieves meme here
Pirates are based
nah plate or bust my dude
that and numbing poison
-36% haste
delete your spec
kekw
this season is so gross
spec has so much control and burst
in solo specfically how many good rogues have you encountered as a rough percentage estimate ?
Idk, maybe I just need to learn to not be a fucking shitter.
They definitely do disgusting stuff in the right hands
And just crawl out of middling ELO hell
i dont see many in shuffle idk
lfg is elo hell
dogshit rated solo queue is a vibe Buhsac
Dark Iron Mage
Bruh, is DID the new Human
or rpx
Like I dont doubt at that level theyd be an absolute menace
this game is built for EU
I play from Aus so I get ass lobbies all the time
1 in every like 50 might be on oce servers
alt gatekeeping?
Bro, why are you playing WoW when you walk outside and have irl pve matches all the time
Crikey!
already rank 1 in irl so have to challenge myself
London is a pvp server
No cap
have BiS steel blue boots so all guuci
Step out your door, immediately gets Kidney Shotted for the opener

ye askin for the shank bruv?
"sub is bad"
I'm waiting for the shanks to get upgraded to actual swords lmao
Im waiting for the IRA to join the server
That's the Marks Hunter blowing your asshole open with a Rapid Fire outta nowhere
Or that knockback trap
Luck o' the Irish racial 
COME OUT YE BLACK AND TANS knockoff ledge
SCARLET FOR YOUR MOTHER FOR HAVIN’ YA
GOBSHITE
fuck the UK's hilarious
That it is
DBS prevents you from being disarmed doesn't it?
if only
Not from the back
yea, assuming it's from the vanilla way
Well you can't parry or dodge stuff from behind unless you're a DH
So stupid honestly. Isn't that a bug?
give warriors dh mobility
i hate dh dodge and glide so much, makes it a pain in the ass 2 stick on em
no theyre not
If they can dodge from front
the eyes just moved to the back of the head
They can dodge from behind
why does that not work with rogues evasion then
Because rogues are not blind
They need to see you to dodge you
Have you seen illidan?
Farmed him for months
Ye, man's got a blindfold
Twice in a lifetime which is strange 2 say
back when wow had swag
back when admitting you played it got you beat up
Irl pvp flag
i wonder with the arms changes if we go back 2 unga bunga as fury or stay arms
nah
lmao
lol
Hey i like fury! im just dogshit at both specs
smage ;c
I prefer fury for pve
is there a haste cap for arms warri, that i should reach, before i go on full crit?
soooo.. yes i am 💁♂️
Crit stronger haste more fun
what do i do against beastmaster in pvp? Disarm does nothing, Die by the sword does nothing. Do I kill the pets?
could put rend on em for extra heals
Rend heals?
Use mobility well, don't waste spear/stun
dont charge into masters call
Like ye with leech
is an actual game-changing huntewr tip
deep wounds heals tho right?
deep wounds isnt rend
blah mixed it up
nah I only use that line of reasoning for keeping unhinged against pet classes
didnt know bladestorm puts deep wounds
hey new warrior player here
what are our ways of breaking roots outside of avatar and bladestorm?
e-begging your healer
does brage do it?
bloodrage breaks roots, but arms doesnt have it
ah true damn
just make sure if you're versing something like hunter, shaman, mage etc you're waiting for them to root before you avatar
its not so much fun in low rated solo right now
i dont get why war is considered the zug zug class btw
its not as easy as people make it
uh
i come from ww monk and rogue and i feel like zug zug works way better with those
TRUE
doesn't help survive against pets
My problem isn't eventually catching up to BM, it's dying in 10 seconds no matter what I do. Do I pop Die by the Sword and just face and kill pets? Because chasing the hunter himself means i'm with my back to the pets and they kill me in 5 seconds
there's a massive amount of context missin here
Are you duelling them or what
i dont think you should be dying that quick to bm
anyone else experience this,on 3 wins on round 5/6 looking like win #4,charge shadow priest game DCs me and im not able to log back in,finally am able to and i get hit with a giant -rating and a no show buff or something,first time in wow ive gotten legit agitated
are you los'ing your healer 
yes, the situation was in bg where I was defending the flag solo and dying through Ignore pain + def stance + die by the sword felt just wrong. I'm trying to understand what to do
oh fuck bg's
Okay who cares about 1v1
Warrior is not a 1v1 class
So ok, do I just LITERALLY RUN AWAY if i'm defending flag solo and see BM?
Or oneshot
aren't rbgs dead?
unless you're gonna oneshot someone, run away from a 1v1
Also a reason why warrior will never defend flags
you're not killing shit w/o a healer
k
Depends if you have 3k exp or not
ah the catch 22
rbgs is just about who you play with
I will say objectively if you're playin with the boyz rbgs > arena
find a good rbg guild, dont be retarded and you can push pretty high
And who you play against
yea that too
Last time I tried to push rbg I got gated at 2.2 by Russian boosters in every game
That was fun :>
bro my favorite thing this xpac is watching Europeans lose loot rolls
What
Buddy and me looking to get into arenas. What’re good double dps comps for 2s?
none
either way they mald way harder than english speakers
Well that sucks lol, any other class combos for 2s double dps. Haven’t touched DF pvp
if you wanna play double dps, just get two hybrids and try it out
its way more fun than dps/healer tbh
feral/ret, feral/sp, feral/ele will all probably be pretty good and fun
its not horrible for 1v1's tbh
fury is really good at 1v1's
they nerfed burst damage dont think any thing near to shadowlands
but rogue mage
yeah
ret warr is fun in 2's
but you need an actually good ret to do that
same with a feral
needs to actually be a good feral
they gotta offheal
which is like 10% chance
ret rework looks cool
Hmm, what’s some easy classes/combos we could pick up. Just aiming for 1800
there's no info yet 
dont play warr in double dps 2s
id go with feral/ret tbh
super fun comp
Thank you for all the help btw
theres some info
a brief overview?
some spells
some stuff was datamined, but chances of that being in the actual spec are very low
take it all with a grain of salt
10.0.7 is still a few months away
rlly?
my guess is 1-2, but tbf i havent seen how finished/unfinished the new zone is
I assumed 10.1 would drop in june
and that'll be where most of the attention goes
10.0.7 dropping in mid march leaves plenty of time for a june release of 10.1
probably even sooner tbh
idk, blizz's content releases this xpac are pretty weird
in a good way
this is probably the most content-intensive X.0.0 patch in a while
would*
if i were them, id be dropping diablo a month or so before 10.1, but i doubt they'll hold .1 longer than june
well one's confirmed one's not so who knows
anyways the datamined spells for ret look way cooler than what we have now
Paladin to me was a class that looks cool but wasn't the case when you started playing it
yea, just take it all with a grain of salt
chances of any of that stuff being in the final cut arent particularly high
the datamined spells dont seem like a rework imo
they just seem like the same stuff, but slightly different
idk I'd have to compare them both next to each other there's some new spells that sound cool
I looked at wowhead's ret overview and one of the weaknesses said "Community perception of Retribution is not particularly high."
p much the same level as pre-legion survival hunter
do palas not have freedom for allies anymore?
I hear pallies taking L's, I hear wars taking L's. Is it just fuck plate or something? Less unholy, seems like none of our damage specs are loved lol
Or is it just people bitching because they want to be op?
Yes
more plates more dates
are people playing colossus smash instead of warbreaker?
What heal is the easiest - disc, Druid or shaman?
you mean blunt? Then yea
yikes 2.1k mmr, matched with two 1400 mmr healers
fine !
2.6 nice!
So much to “I just want 2.4”
Yooo what are your queue times
mortal on 3, is a top keybind
currently really fast
but i just hit 2600 so im taking a break
good shit
good call
i am getting perma caster lobbies
probs consider chillin tomorrow night and doing an alt this week
while the dust settles
what cr you at mr menace
goddamn 1300 rounds
all g
yeah man
i grinded HAAAARD
are you focusing lock or mage
i am dying
that's all there is to it ey, I dunno why people pretend you can hit high mmr/cr in less than 200 games
you think the R1 players are playing less than 3-4k games per season?
u acn
idk i dont believe it
you can do it if you're grinding practice
and at the start of the season i was rusty af so thats why so many games played
but you can't play 200 games in a season and do nothing else
i played lock for 2 seasons
and the reason you can't is because everyone else is playing 1300 games like Ndogo here
and you're not 6.5x better than him
hoooow
I mean its technically possible
but what I'm saying is you're not good enough if you only play those 200 rounds
and didnt do any other practice on other toons/specs
ah u mean all games played in total
yeee
i mean ye ppl who are r1 have played for years
@grand scaffold send me ur build
i wanna compare it to the roar build im playing
ok
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gonna try a roar build too
not even that
but
roar goes through
blur
evasion
parry
and is a complete menace to dk's
oh btw
run the talent menace into demo
really good
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gonna play this
yes guys dont post pictures
yes but u can send it with ur 3rd wb then
i guess
no fatality ?
merce is 3.4k with bleeds?
yes
how come no frothing berserker
no need for the rage
brecision get nerfed soon
wonder if its worth taking SoS over unhinged into pets
first time queuing shuffle in a few days
thought id ease back into it
first lobby; double disc, sp, demo, frost mage

on nokhudon hold
that map is aids to engage on as melee
welcome to my life
every game caster
everytime i load into a game and i see mage lock any caster
i should just /afk
instead of suffer
depends on what the healers are like