pvp

[little lava]

forgot about banner

xddddddddd

i preparry kidney just to die

🙂

nothing busted here

[limber relic]

fite me

[worthy fern]

I made a purple mog with the new cape and hood off tp

Looks pretty sick

First wow hood to look like an actual hooded cloak

[shy aurora]

I see dat mount tho

[limber relic]

its too smol for me

[shy aurora]

I see smexxin had frozen writ on his two hand wep. Whats that?

[limber relic]

gives vers on proc

[shy aurora]

Aight

[near delta]

The blizz forums are a treasure

[full quiver]

Well that is three lobbies in a row with 3 warriors.

the word is out and the free rating is being collected

not fun to play the game like this.

I dont blame anyone for playing a warrior though. look at this awesome package:

160k crits (plas fatal effect)
huge, braindead application of MS in a dampened arena
Two Snares
A root that locks you down and hit for 100k
2x charge
2x leap
1x intervene
auto attack damage more than a rogue shadowstrike
rallying cry
1x AOE undispellable fear
another AOE (cone) root on free charge
1 X stun
1 X free dispel plus 20% health heal
1X half health heal every 30 seconds
1X immunity
immune to CC on bladestorm which they have 2 times a minute
1X spell reflect if you want to peel
1X root break with avatar
and 17 spells that modify their damage higher

Something has to give here.

[latent hazel]

Well that is three lobbies in a row with 3 warriors.
the word is out and the free rating is being collected
not fun to play the game like this.
I dont blame anyone for playing a warrior though. look at this awesome package:
160k crits (plas fatal effect)
huge, braindead application of MS in a dampened arena
Two Snares
A root that locks you down and hit for 100k
2x charge
2x leap
1x intervene
auto attack damage more than a rogue shadowstrike
rallying cry
1x AOE undispellable fear
another AOE (cone) root on free charge
1 X stun
1 X free dispel plus 20% health heal
1X half health heal every 30 seconds
1X immunity
immune to CC on bladestorm which they have 2 times a minute
1X spell reflect if you want to peel
1X root break with avatar
and 17 spells that modify their damage higher
Something has to give here.

[somber hare]

Where's a good build for Arms PvP?

[muted surge]

[lucid walrus]

half health

i wish forum dwellers were honest about kits

Well that is three lobbies in a row with 3 warriors.

the word is out and the free rating is being collected

not fun to play the game like this.

I dont blame anyone for playing a warrior though. look at this awesome package:

160k crits (plas fatal effect)
huge, braindead application of MS in a dampened arena
Two Snares
A root that locks you down and hit for 100k
2x charge
2x leap
1x intervene
auto attack damage more than a rogue shadowstrike
rallying cry
1x AOE undispellable fear
another AOE (cone) root on free charge
1 X stun
1 X free dispel plus 20% health heal
1X half health heal every 30 seconds
1X immunity
immune to CC on bladestorm which they have 2 times a minute
1X spell reflect if you want to peel
1X root break with avatar
and 17 spells that modify their damage higher

Something has to give here.

[polar marsh]

Forgot to mention
2x huge juiced biceps

[grand scaffold]

bro

fuck solo shuffle

i literally hate it

[copper hare]

fuck assa

fuck disc

:-)

[grand scaffold]

fuck dumb knights

not called death knights anymore

just dumb knights

they run out of range of healer

los healer

play as if they a surv hunter

legit daft

[muted surge]

Did you get out of 2.2?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

got to 2370

then tanked to 2290

again

lmao

oh well

im bought to get out again

[muted surge]

Oh close

Soon you gonna have it again :)

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[frank violet]

As a newer warrior player (me), what's the biggest mistakes you see most arms (I've never played fury) warriors making in arena? I'm currently around 1100.

[wheat jay]

Not doing dmg

[muted surge]

My biggest mistake was not checking were my heal is / or if they are ccd

[wheat jay]

Damage is PRIORITY

[muted surge]

But that’s general I guess

[wheat jay]

Once you do dmg you can improve other shit

[muted surge]

When I play against other war / rogue / monk I just get randomly disarmed, also kinda bad

[frank violet]

In general, I feel like I'm doing pretty well on dmg. Usually tied or near tied with the other DPS on my team. What would you recommend after damage?

[viral charm]

so is pvp gear still messed up if i try to turn a conquest piece into tier pvp gear it loses it's upgrade ranks and i still cant put sockets on my pvp neck

[wheat jay]

Trading defensives

Then positioning

[grand scaffold]

never staying in 2200

[wheat jay]

Since positioning is tricky

[frank violet]

So you mean disarm being more use purposefully than just "whenever"? Saving it for big burst?

[frank violet]

While it's tricky, how could I begin to start thinking about my positioning more?

[wheat jay]

Dont line your healer

Dont chase too far

Make others chase you if possible

Line dmg when needed, but you need to know trading defensives/offensives to know that

That's why positioning is tricky

Especially on warr cuz you want to zug zug

But you cant zug zug at all times

[frank violet]

All good points. Thanks for all of that. I really appreciate it.

[wheat jay]

Main priority is dmg

Be it st, cleave, aoe

Can't win without dmg

Funny enough the best warr i played with in SS was playing bleed build

2nd dmg rend

1st mortal

Man was chunking

[grand scaffold]

yeah

bleed build hits really hard

artji what cr you at

[frank violet]

Can you define "chunking"? I'm assuming that means "hits real hard"?

[wheat jay]

Was 2200 on survi now im 2k

[frank violet]

I'm currently playing spear. Would you recommend playing bleed instead?

[grand scaffold]

thats alright

i was 2.4 now 2.3

solo shuffle sucks

[wheat jay]

Precisely

Ndogo my man

Survi so bad now xD

I need to do acrobatics on my dick to win games

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[wheat jay]

And then I see a fucking APE

LEAP TO HEALER

THAT I JUST TRAPPES

AND HE CHARGES BACK FERAL

HE LEAPT ONLY TO BREAK TRAP

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[frank violet]

Is bleed build the way to go?

I'm currently spear

[wheat jay]

From what i've seen, yes

But also depends on matchup

Against other plate, 100%

Goes through armor

People generally dont respect bleed dmg either cuz its a dog

[grand scaffold]

but bleed build is really good

i think better than spear

[steel trout]

😡 stop hating on spear

[warm portal]

I'm still 1 deaging people with spear build

[frank violet]

Does spear's attractiveness come from the burst and rooting potential?

[grand scaffold]

mostly the root

troar just slaps the fuck out of people tho

[warm portal]

Yes. I've hit 80k spears into 150k+ mortal strikes

Like 80k initial because of avatar/csmash applied

[frank violet]

I'm being bad with my opener then -- I should be Avatar before spearing?

[warm portal]

Its not required but I play both spear talents so I have the increased initial impact dmg

[frank violet]

I've typically been doing stun, spear, avatar, csmash, rend, mortal strike, bladestorm

[warm portal]

Rend before all of that

Waste of a global during burst

[frank violet]

good call

(thank you all for the help, by the way)

[steel trout]

also depends if u play blademasters or the warlord torment shit

[warm portal]

If you play blademasters I wouldn't worry about trying to giga buff your initial spear dmg

At least I dont

[grand scaffold]

warlords ftw

[slender lion]

the 3ilvl wiont make much of a diff on these right? im using the 421 version since its crit/vers

[modern grail]

given the stats your drakebreaker is much better than the conq one

even at 421

[slender lion]

yeah thats what i thought, thats why im using it lol

was just double checking

[warm portal]

Idk if that crit is worth the weapon dmg tbh

[slender lion]

of 3 ilvl?

[warm portal]

I mean its purely feelcraft but the only time I've really seen people choose lower ilvl for preferred stats is on BM hunter gun, ele shaman shield, etc

Or maybe jewelry because of lack of main stat

But more weapon damage and mainstat? Idk man id prob use the 424

[modern grail]

would surprise me if it made much of a diff. also if you don't have the gold to buy another sophic then its moot cause that enchant alone is alot better than frozen

[warm portal]

Time to buy a big 3 star sophic

[frank violet]

Dumb question: Does Warlord's Torment give us access to the fury talent??

[sharp meteor]

It's just a buff.

[warm portal]

Just gives you reck on avatar & cmash

[sharp meteor]

Basically for a few globals on each smash or ava.

[warm portal]

Yes

[sharp meteor]

Which feels really good with current version of Arms which loves crit.

Big meaty hits.

[frank violet]

Ahh okay -- that makes perfect sense. I thought it was only for Fury, my bad.

Second question -- if you're going bleed build instead of spear, you want more haste, correct?

[modern grail]

arguable / preference. haste and crit are about even

[frank violet]

Okay -- with bleed build, would still go warlords?

[sharp meteor]

Well, yeah. I'm not sure what synergy an extra storm has.

[modern grail]

yeah bleed build often doesnt take unhinged, and even with unhinged blademaster can be a dps loss

[frank violet]

That's what I was thinking. Wanted to make sure I was thinking in the right direction.

[sharp meteor]

Just feels weird and awkward with that setup unless you're using second storm to dodge cc.

Actually trolling if no unhinged, too.

[late nacelle]

Any 424 ilvl CHADS?

[torpid prawn]

only 420 here.

[sharp meteor]

I think that I have unspent conq on most my warrs

probably only like 1 piece off full gear

[warm portal]

423

[sharp meteor]

Whack I made a new warr two days ago and am 420 with like

1300 conq left

[frank violet]

That would be my follow-up: If there's no bladestorm for bleed build, do we lose some mobility, then?

[sharp meteor]

Idk about no storm at all.

[torpid prawn]

what do you want me to say to that..

[sharp meteor]

I meant no blademaster/unhinged.

[frank violet]

Ahhh okay. Thanks for clarifying.

[sharp meteor]

Gearing is so quick now.

Only two weeks for 4pc on everything, too.

[torpid prawn]

i'm capped on conquest as i geared for fury and switched to arms a week and a half ago so im trying to re spec

[sharp meteor]

Oh did you buy a second 2h

[torpid prawn]

yeah for fury

and shoulders/head

[sharp meteor]

Yeah that's why I was curious about the ilev

[torpid prawn]

i only have 2pc atm

[sharp meteor]

God fury tier is so awful

wasn't it originally like 10% crit on execute

[late nacelle]

Kinda interested in seeing how good a 418 crafted frost belt would do in arenas

[torpid prawn]

i loved fury, then i played arms for a week and now fury feels plastic

[late nacelle]

20k dmg procs

[sharp meteor]

Fury felt like inting after slaughterhouse deletion

Blizz just nerfing core mechanics by like

half or more

[torpid prawn]

do ya'll stance dance

[sharp meteor]

SL they just legit just dstance in half

[slender lion]

i mean yeah prob some, feal crafty around it, ill try out the 424 one again. it is slightly more verse and bleed from DW

[torpid prawn]

i had a healer tell me in one of my solos to plz stay in defensive the entire 6 rounds and i was like wtf

[sharp meteor]

I mean you try to avoid it but between goes and stuff if you're trading unfavorably

[sharp meteor]

did u feed first round

[grand scaffold]

i swear if ret gets 40 yd range

[sharp meteor]

or have a sketchy mog lmao

[grand scaffold]

im protesting

[torpid prawn]

they trained me pretty hard the first round and wouldn't get off me

[sharp meteor]

i got into lobby with a gnome hunter and the healer is like

pls sir just sit in camo

let the warr kill them

[torpid prawn]

lmao

[slender lion]

i love how strong arms is lol

[torpid prawn]

I really dislike ret atm. they basically one shot me whenever they crit

[slender lion]

its insane

[sharp meteor]

can be really good to

[slender lion]

i get cc'd alot and ignored cause they cant kill me and i smack them for like 20% a time

[warm portal]

Feel like ret sucks balls rn

[sharp meteor]

dstance if ur having everything dumped into you

and not using offensive cds

[grand scaffold]

i hope ret gets nerfed

[sharp meteor]

like outside of smash windows or w/e you still maintain mortal strike

[torpid prawn]

ret better get nerfed. they're so broken

[torpid prawn]

that's good avice

i suck . i feel like im learning warrior all over again

[sharp meteor]

like ITS BAD overall because you're going negative BUT

sometimes it's like

you're doing 15-20k dps

enemy team doing 50k dps into your skull

you WILL NOT KILL in the near future

just dstance

also remember reflect is a 20% wall for 5s

[slender lion]

~

[sharp meteor]

which is rly good into ret dk etc

[late nacelle]

Dont forget shield swapping. 30% dr vs phys with a 15 sec CD

[modern grail]

if you queue SS and do a BG, does your place in SS queue advance?

[torpid prawn]

damn wise , you'r estill at it with shield swapping

[late nacelle]

Single handedly got me to 2400

[torpid prawn]

are you trolling

[late nacelle]

No

Use shield swap its op

[sharp meteor]

hmm in general i think swapping is inefficient but if you're being trained by a cleave

it seems decent

maybe

[torpid prawn]

i have never shield swapped

[late nacelle]

Also SKS build

Way better than spear

[torpid prawn]

wise i can't tell

if you're trolling

[late nacelle]

Its not

[modern grail]

if it is, it's a very consistent, dedicated troll lmao

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[torpid prawn]

very dedicated troll

he's long game

[late nacelle]

SKS can easily hit 300k

Its just better

[modern grail]

we need you to try sks so we can determine if gnome is troll

[late nacelle]

And u get a big go every CS instead of spear CD

[grand scaffold]

how

[torpid prawn]

MUD

can you sks and shield swap

and let us know

[elfin surge]

mortal strike spear build can hit 400k, its just better.

[torpid prawn]

if gnome is a torll

[late nacelle]

I never hit 400k

My max is 210k MS

[elfin surge]

i hit a 500k once

[modern grail]

tf

reported

cya

[torpid prawn]

damn.. 500k

[late nacelle]

But keep in mind

[elfin surge]

@torpid prawn what are u asking? Do we shield swap in DF?

[late nacelle]

Im also running hurricane and double dps trinkets

[modern grail]

more specifically, if disarmed and vs phys melee, is there a reason not to sheild swap and Block?

[torpid prawn]

No i was half kidding. Gnome said his ratings jumped to 2400 after he started shield swapping but i can't believe him

[frank violet]

Do you have a solid macro for shield swap?

[late nacelle]

I learned that mine was bad apparently

[elfin surge]

i dont think u can weapon swap while disarmed lol

[warm portal]

100% trolling or just being a goober

[late nacelle]

U can do it with equipsets

[torpid prawn]

lol

[late nacelle]

1 set with shield + 1h, one with 2h

[elfin surge]

lol we dont shield swap anymore, that mechanic died a long time ago

[torpid prawn]

that's what i thought.

[modern grail]

someone said only your 1h is disarmed, so you can still swap and block

[late nacelle]

Wdym

Its good

[modern grail]

#pvp message

[late nacelle]

U can even int ur dbts and then shield swap next go

[elfin surge]

I tested it in shadowlands and shield would give you 8% damage reduction vs physical which isnt that much in a world where no classes are pure physical. Plus weapon swapping triggers multiple globals and isnt worth.
I don't even think you can mortal strike with a 1h

[modest rapids]

When facing something like rogue/feral and you know they will open on you, why not shield/d-stance and then have 2h macrod on MS? I feel like the armor can mitigate some dmg there on the opener

[late nacelle]

U can MS

Or was it op

Or both

Hmmm

[modest rapids]

you can OP, you cant MS

with 1h

[late nacelle]

I mean

[modern grail]

during swap you can rend, clap (if trolling), OP. macro MS so that if you don't have 2h equipped, you swap to your 2h

[late nacelle]

Its good dr against fast low hits

[modern grail]

#pvp message

[late nacelle]

Its less good vs 210k mortal strikes

[modest rapids]

tbh I swap back to 2h as soon as im out of stun so I can start smashing heads

but sitting in stun with shield helps a little

[torpid prawn]

so... greyson gnome and turtel, ya'll shield swap

is what i'm hearing

[late nacelle]

Yep

[modern grail]

in theory

[modest rapids]

yeah but im also bad

[frank violet]

What is SKS?

[modern grail]

gnome + looking at numbers convinced me, but i haven't run enough SS to practice in the last 48h

[late nacelle]

It just extra way of surviving

Good tool to have

[modern grail]

you can swap during stun?

[modest rapids]

no you gotta predict

[modern grail]

ah kk

[elfin surge]

u guys are morons lol

[late nacelle]

Xdd

[modern grail]

typical lazy r1

[slender lion]

how are you hitting these numbers, i barely get 100 lol

[wispy cedar]

whats mud spelled backwards

[late nacelle]

Hurricane double dps trinkets

[elfin surge]

I dont even use mortal strike i just rp as a prot war and spam thunderclap with a shield and 1h as arms

[late nacelle]

Yep

[sharp meteor]

so heroic

[grand scaffold]

dum

[late nacelle]

Peak warr performance

[elfin surge]

buggin out yo

[late nacelle]

Also how annoying isnt it that they didnt fix thunderstorm charge dcs yet

[torpid prawn]

damn, here im sitting as a newly speccd arms and i can't get past 1300 in solo. i suck

[late nacelle]

U gotta shield swap bro

[elfin surge]

post gameplay @torpid prawn

[frank violet]

I'm with you. I hit 1250 a couple days ago. Back down to 1050.

[slender lion]

i do solid damage as arms, just dont hit more than 100k MS lol

[torpid prawn]

and here gnome is 2400

shield swapping

[late nacelle]

I think 2400 isnt that high

[torpid prawn]

it's higher than 1300

[late nacelle]

Isnt mud above 3k

[torpid prawn]

DAMN mud

[late nacelle]

Fking animal

[torpid prawn]

you 3k?!

tf am i doing

[elfin surge]

lmao pikaboo stole my #1

and i dont care to q

[torpid prawn]

pikaboo , isn't he a rogue

[elfin surge]

he alts war

[torpid prawn]

omg

i can't believe you're 3k

[modern grail]

i haven't seen those numbers either, but your best bet is running both dam trinkets, wait for your str proc trinket, then blow CDs and burst

[elfin surge]

[late nacelle]

Also bladestorm for 15% str

Orc racial

[modern grail]

avatar, badge, insignia, blood fury (orc master race), CS, 2x OP buff. pop pop

[frank violet]

The Dark Iron racial is pretty good, too.

[late nacelle]

Jeweled signet of melandrus might be worth too

418 emerald lariat

With either mastery or vers proc

[slender lion]

one thing im bad at, is not waiting on ~GCD, charge, bolt, try too spear but its mid gcd and it does t go and i just avfatar, sadge

[torpid prawn]

i thought human racials were best

[late nacelle]

Nah

Dark iron

[torpid prawn]

no need for trinket, you can just will out

with human racials

[late nacelle]

Kultiran is fun for rbg

[torpid prawn]

im trying to get 2k rating

none of that rbg shiet

doesn't help queues are 30min a pop

so i can't even practice

[late nacelle]

Rbg probs easiest 2.4k out of all ladders

[modern grail]

then you have to deal with RBGers

[late nacelle]

We did full premade grp

[torpid prawn]

whats your solo

rating

[late nacelle]

With 0 xp

Got 2.4k in a week

In bfa

[modern grail]

1950 down to 1850 cause i didn't know how to play bleeds and was shat upon

[warm portal]

Literally just practice doing big fucking dam and 2k is free

[modern grail]

and am currently 25m/11m in queue woo

[warm portal]

Never dstance never peel just big fucking dam and you'll hit 2k

[torpid prawn]

so just prioritize dam

[late nacelle]

Then shield swap

[torpid prawn]

you use two dmg trinks?

[torpid prawn]

LMAO

[frank violet]

I always find it's impossible to get into RBG groups. I spend too much time requesting to join in the group finder.

[late nacelle]

For 2k -> 2.4k

Worked for me

[modern grail]

all day mfer

except vs rogue

[warm portal]

It won't make you better but if you literally just execute your big dam sequence correctly you'll hit 2k

[torpid prawn]

ok fsho

[warm portal]

Never shield swap and use 1 dps trinky

[torpid prawn]

greyson's big dmg sequence the standard?

[late nacelle]

2 dps trinkets

Hurricane

300k skullsplitters

[modern grail]

that's actually a screenshot of Gnome i think lol

[late nacelle]

U will onetap people

[torpid prawn]

oh, what's your dmg sequence

i need that BIG D energy

right now

[late nacelle]

Wait for proc trinket

Bladestorm

[modern grail]

gnome is a sks nerd, but the one I put there is it if you troar

[torpid prawn]

oh fsho

[warm portal]

Don't wait for proc trinky thats dumb literally just crash into people itll proc mid burst

[modern grail]

tbh

[late nacelle]

Rend -> All CDs + CS -> SKS -> MS -> OP

[modern grail]

isnt it better in the opener to rend -> 2 OP -> the rest

[muted surge]

Always with the sks heresy

[late nacelle]

No

[modern grail]

i took IP off my OP macro for this :[

[late nacelle]

OP is too buffes

[quaint osprey]

The Whirlwind Build is surprisingly fun

[modern grail]

out

[late nacelle]

U want em in the burst window rather than 30% ms

[quaint osprey]

[torpid prawn]

alright, i hope i hit 2k in solo

with this big d

[modern grail]

under 2k
offense = chad
defense = soy

[quaint osprey]

defense when heal is cc = gigachad

[modern grail]

2k-2.4k
shield block = chad

[warm portal]

Mortal strike, double stack overpower, (can bolt here) avatar+csmash, spear, big sharpen ms into unhinged bladestorm
Literally do that every game and you'll hit 2k i promise you

And don't put a shield on ever

[muted surge]

@elfin surge are you using shield block?

[late nacelle]

I think the double stack op before cds is a big mistake tbh

Op can hit 100k itself

[modern grail]

mud irrelevant for this convo he's over 2.4k

[torpid prawn]

word. do you macro any of these together?

[late nacelle]

Better to have those in ur burst window imo

[quaint osprey]

how do you use shield block

[muted surge]

Stop with macros and get some hands

[torpid prawn]

maco > hands

[warm portal]

No but you prob could. Wont be 100% optimal but if you're losing time on globals anyways

[torpid prawn]

alright

i'll print that out and post it on my screen

and hit 2k

[late nacelle]

Just use SKS build, double dps trinkets, shield swapping

Auto 2.4k

[warm portal]

Sometimes people will feed you easy sweeping strikes cleave and you just kill everyone

[quaint osprey]

you can swap weapons in arena?

[torpid prawn]

wise until you can show me yourself doing this, i can't use this strategy. i dont' know if you're trolling

[muted surge]

Yes

[quaint osprey]

dang

[muted surge]

But it has. 3 sec cd

[late nacelle]

I posted screenshots

But got no vid

[warm portal]

Sus

[late nacelle]

Its good

[quaint osprey]

and how?

[late nacelle]

Just try it

[torpid prawn]

i feel like if i try it

my 1300

will drop to sub 1k

[late nacelle]

Go skirmish then

Just to see the dmg

Do it like i said

U will legit onetap people

[muted surge]

Sure old man

Maybe it’s time for your nap?

[late nacelle]

Nah im going out for drinks

[warm portal]

You were pregaming too hard while typing in here thats what it was

[late nacelle]

Cya nerds, keep struggling or start double dps trink + shield swap + hurricane + SKS build

Trust

[torpid prawn]

if he's a troll, he is probably the most consistent one i've ever met

if he's not

then i'll try it if my big damage doesn't get me to 2k

[quaint osprey]

Anyone in here can give me a quick tldr how you swap to shield real quick

[late nacelle]

Sks is bigger dmg

[hot needle]

big dam> everything else

[warm portal]

Don't

[late nacelle]

Literally just try it on dummy

Sks is nearly 40% more dmg

[warm portal]

Psure dummy has no armor or vers

[hot needle]

Click "backpack keybind" find shield and right click ❤️

[cinder thorn]

Skilsplitter?

Do you double rend then do it or what

I didn't find it added much dps for the headache

[muted surge]

Macro /equip shield and /equip weapon

[late nacelle]

Double dps trink, hurricane

[muted surge]

Just with some extra modifiers

[slender lion]

last round in this game was clutch

[late nacelle]

Its not dps, its the burst from that single hit

Easily 300k+ hits

[cinder thorn]

How 300k, rend is about what 50k? Skull itself isn't much

[late nacelle]

Skull can crit like 70k itseld

[cinder thorn]

Yes where do you get the other 230k from

[late nacelle]

Both rend and deepwounds proc for 80-120k depending on vers mastery and how many u crit

[elfin surge]

dont listen to retarded gnome he hit a level 60 mage for 300k and thinks it applies the same in arena

[late nacelle]

I mean

It works

[muted surge]

Thanks mid

[muted surge]

What’s your cr tho

[cinder thorn]

I actually like wise gnome, but I just want him to explain

[hot needle]

it works on the lvl 60 pigs outside of orgrimmar aswell!

[late nacelle]

2405

But

I've posted screenshots

In this channel

Of 300k SKS's

Search my name

[cinder thorn]

I did can't find the screens

[late nacelle]

But it was a mage yes

Xd

Go further

I got 330 pages of posts mate

[warm portal]

This whole chat has been aoe taunted by a shield swapper

[muted surge]

What about shield swap tho?

[elfin surge]

[elfin surge]

shield swapping died years ago morons

[late nacelle]

No its good

Trust

[torpid prawn]

why so many warriors mud?

[muted surge]

Okay ty

[elfin surge]

leap frog strat

[muted surge]

Everytime he’s stuck in mmr hell he makes a new war until he gets good rng and hits r1

[elfin surge]

no

anyone super serious about pushing cr should have 2 of the same class

[muted surge]

Why?

[hot needle]

then what does 11 of the same class mean? Giga chad?

[dense summit]

is blood and thunder with bleed build troll?

[muted surge]

But even then, you got 11

[elfin surge]

if you only play your lowest char its impossible to lose cr @muted surge

[undone pumice]

the entire warsong clan

(after the second war)

[muted surge]

Actually smart, I guess

[undone pumice]

holy shit

true

[muted surge]

Gonna level a war when I’m home :>

[undone pumice]

ive never lost cr then

[torpid prawn]

lowest char, can someone

explain

im slightly confused

[undone pumice]

muktiple characters

[elfin surge]

ok

[undone pumice]

lowest rated

=

lowest char

[muted surge]

If you have a char on 1.5k cr and 1 on 1k, you play on 2k until you get 1.6, so no matter how much you lose you won’t be below 1.5

[elfin surge]

#1 war reaches 1600
play #2 until 1600
then log back #1 war and if u tank thats okay ur other war is 1600.

[torpid prawn]

ah

smart

[late nacelle]

Thats

[torpid prawn]

i had no idea

[late nacelle]

Way worse

[muted surge]

But at the same time

[late nacelle]

Than shield swapping

Thats actually

[muted surge]

Does it matter if you lose cr

[late nacelle]

Autism

[undone pumice]

shut up gnome

[late nacelle]

Lmao

[undone pumice]

also true

i am autistic can confirm i can only play warrior hence having 3 max lvl warrs for no reason as i onky play my main

[elfin surge]

shadowlands s2 my team took up 11 r1 spots

🤡

[undone pumice]

shut up dirty dirty dirty mud boy

[modern grail]

anyone who joins a class disc and gremlins 24/7 in the pvp channel is on the spectrum, myself included

[undone pumice]

yes

[late nacelle]

Nah

[undone pumice]

shut up

[late nacelle]

I am a humanitarian

[undone pumice]

cope and seethe gnome boy

you are autistic now

get debuffed

[late nacelle]

Here to spread the joy of shield swap double dps trink hurricane sks build

[undone pumice]

good luck finding a dispell

[warm portal]

Gnome just trying to press taunt on cd in here rn

[late nacelle]

You need only let yourself be saved

[modern grail]

anyone else getting more BoA honor things? i had 1 after a month but 3 this week

[undone pumice]

idk

[elfin surge]

[modern grail]

yes but if your defs are exhausted and you're targeted by cleave shield block cannot be worse than dying

[spice hornet]

just your avg assassination rogue reroller here

[undone pumice]

gay cat sex

[thick reef]

@spice hornet i dont understand

[undone pumice]

only solo rating

[late nacelle]

Assa rogue cant shield swap

[undone pumice]

yes

[late nacelle]

Simply worse spec

[modern grail]

cringe stealth vs chadvatar

[warm portal]

Id rather die than not do big fucking dam

[flat tide]

Are the people in wowhead comments real?

[undone pumice]

no

[modern grail]

i think i'm convinced actually

[late nacelle]

U dont do dam if u ded

[warm portal]

I killed them first because I did big fucking dam

You only need shield if you do baby dam

[torpid prawn]

drake what's your build? typical unhinged?

[flat tide]

Smartest warrior

[late nacelle]

This is for when u didnt kill them first

And if u kill them first every time

Then u would be 4k rating

But u dont

Therefor shieldswap

To live to do more dam

Facts

[flat tide]

God gnome is so smart I just want him to ganome me

[warm portal]

Yes

[torpid roost]

Z U G

[late nacelle]

Ele sham not blatantly overpowered 4k rating anymore? Nerf warr guys

Fking dogs

[muted surge]

Just wait for the 25yd ret oneshots

That’s gonna be fun

[craggy meteor]

How long would you keep hoping for a weapon from vault before you just cave an buy it?

[torpid prawn]

i got a arms wep

from vault

last week

it can happen fi you believe

[modern grail]

get drakebreaker and never cave

[torpid prawn]

and how they wining about warriors when pally's crit 250k

[elfin surge]

I’ve recently begun playing my sin rogue again because DH got boring.

I’ve found the experience climbing very frustrating. Rogues can only land kills if we land CC perfectly, much of our win conditions being totally impossible in solo shuffle.

It doesn’t matter how well I play when some ape warrior storm bolt drs my kidney and then bladestorms my blind.

So I have a proposal to make rogues more viable in shuffle.

Take our stun DR off normal stun DR for one. My kidney shouldn’t be halfed because some orc zugger macro’d his bolt to charge.

Also blind should work more like cyclone or DK blind. Either making the target immune to damage during it, or make damage not break it immediately.

Additionally, I’d like to see smoke bomb have a pull effect like spear or at least druid vortex to make it more viable in an uncoordinated zugfest.

It’s already hard enough to climb as a rogue, please do something to make our kit actually work.

[modern grail]

I’ve recently begun playing my sin rogue again because DH got boring.

I’ve found the experience climbing very frustrating. Rogues can only land kills if we land CC perfectly, much of our win conditions being totally impossible in solo shuffle.

It doesn’t matter how well I play when some ape warrior storm bolt drs my kidney and then bladestorms my blind.

So I have a proposal to make rogues more viable in shuffle.

Take our stun DR off normal stun DR for one. My kidney shouldn’t be halfed because some orc zugger macro’d his bolt to charge.

Also blind should work more like cyclone or DK blind. Either making the target immune to damage during it, or make damage not break it immediately.

Additionally, I’d like to see smoke bomb have a pull effect like spear or at least druid vortex to make it more viable in an uncoordinated zugfest.

It’s already hard enough to climb as a rogue, please do something to make our kit actually work.

[craggy meteor]

That’s one option. Would stop me from getting other drakebreaker bits in other slots to boost my ilvl though

And mean an expensive temporary weapon enchant

But it’s not a bad option

[modern grail]

you def want to get a 420+ weap asap

[late nacelle]

Rogues most degenerate players in the game

Holy fk

[warm portal]

Get a big conquest weapon. If your vault hasn't blessed you already just say fuck it and buy it

[modern grail]

if he's spending his conq he won't have it until march lmao

[craggy meteor]

I can afford it now

I’ve got saved up

Only bought one item with conq

Which was the chest to convert to tier for my 2pc today

[modern grail]

5k cap, might as well in that case

[craggy meteor]

Sitting on 3k conq

Buying the weapon is inefficient in terms of getting max ilvl fastest

But I guess it will help me a lot in the short term

[late nacelle]

I bought 2 weps

[modern grail]

yes but with the way pvp gear work rn it's not that big of a detriment to be slightly lower ilvl

[late nacelle]

1 for sks build 1 for zug build

Also bought 1h and shield

[craggy meteor]

True

So now the question is sword or polearm

Both are good

[modern grail]

crit >

[craggy meteor]

And seems people have bought a mix when I inspect top players

[late nacelle]

Mastery

[sharp meteor]

why is an enh wanting warr nerfed

biting the hand that feeds you sheesh

[late nacelle]

Crit is useless stat

Just crit anyway

[warm portal]

A lot have polearm from lucky vault
Get the crit sword

[sharp meteor]

cos people pulled polearm from box

also fury was gooder initially

[craggy meteor]

Ah fair

[sharp meteor]

and mastery flexes better

between the specs

[elfin surge]

solo shuffle retard

[sharp meteor]

oh that makes sense

[craggy meteor]

Sometimes I like to play the bleed skull splitter build so mastery is OK for me

[late nacelle]

Crit is literally useless stat, just crit anyway

[craggy meteor]

But I guess crit is better

[modern grail]

is this ban-worthy?

[late nacelle]

If u got 1% crit

And u crit

Thats like having 100% crit

But with 0 investment

[modern grail]

everyone has 50% crit by default. you either crit or you don't

[late nacelle]

Just crit anyway mate

[craggy meteor]

Fuck it. Bought the sword

Thanks guys

[torpid prawn]

gj

[craggy meteor]

Let’s see how I pump now. First time playing with conq sword, expensive enchant and my 2pc. Big upgrades

[stark agate]

Single minded fury pvp or ur a loser

[torpid prawn]

you won't regret it

[warm portal]

Time to do big fucking dam

[torpid prawn]

big d

[modern grail]

Gnome what are BiS toys

[craggy meteor]

Oh yeeeeeah with weapon proc I can crit 100k MS now

Noice

[torpid prawn]

Sophic?

[craggy meteor]

Yeah

[sharp meteor]

sophic seems dece

[craggy meteor]

Treated myself to the expensive one

Had the writ on the honor weapon

[sharp meteor]

I wonder about Frozen Writ.

Defensive aspect of vers isn't crazy but

[craggy meteor]

Side note: anyone else feel like thunderous roar is kind of awesome now? And maybe better than spear?

[sharp meteor]

Spear feels too good unless the team has a reliable out.

Which is dk and warlock.

warlock can also gate their teammates

[craggy meteor]

Yeah spear is still nice

But roar pumps

If you can get 2 or more of them

[torpid prawn]

i can't imagine not having spear

while bladestorming

[craggy meteor]

And the talent after it which also increases rend and deep wounds is cool

[late nacelle]

Dont forget weaving i heroic throws on charges when sweeping is on CD

[craggy meteor]

In a test on a dummy just running through a full CD rotation with a bit of execute, roar, rend and deep wounds added up to 25% of my dps single target

Kinda big

[quick carbon]

roar can pump for sure

the bleed can crit for almost 30k

[craggy meteor]

Probs gonna stick with spear for now. At my CR, people don’t know how to deal with it

[quick carbon]

in ur cds

i like roar vs warlock/dk teams

[craggy meteor]

But roar unhinged build is kinda interesting

[quick carbon]

i even played it vs mage feral in shuffle just now

if they stack u can just do

obscene dam

[craggy meteor]

Kills me when I’m on my DK and a war with higher rating then my war spears my DK. Im like “are you thick?@

[quick carbon]

ill spear dks

just for

the damage

but ive been playing roar more than spear recently

cuz its more fun

[torpid prawn]

do you just baldestorm

chase your target then

[quick carbon]

i just do what warriors have always done before shadowlands

the old ways are less common

[crimson onyx]

i see many speck in to improved slam, is that a thing now?

feels like the roar unhinged is topping in SS ladder at least

[warm portal]

Usually a flex point. You'll get to a spot where you have to spend a point in like 1 of 3 undesirable talents

Let's you smack totems harder sometimes

[modern grail]

fatality vs unhinged? how much does fatality normally do?

also kinda crazy how you can spec for +30% crit and +90% dam for slam and the base dam is so ass it isnt worth it

[warm portal]

If you only had to pick one pick then go unhinged
If its for shuffle you're lucky to see over a 50k fatality because of how quick the games are. Id bet most will be like 6-20k

[modern grail]

good call

[frank knoll]

That’s gotta be either a mage or a rogue right

[frank knoll]

Yeah rogue that isn’t exactly pick up and play. A little harder vs good players

[bleak quarry]

These bg weeklys are pure cancer

[urban skiff]

why?

[bleak quarry]

Just salty, lost 5 in a row lol

[craggy meteor]

What do you guys do when you get a caster heavy lobby? Feel like they’re all just looking to pile into you. Spend most rounds running away outside of CDs

[craggy meteor]

Do a premade dude

Even just 3-4 decent people in a premade can carry so hard

[torpid prawn]

premades are hard to find

usually play with a group of friends but when they're offline, its solo and solo is such a toss up with who you get paired with

and i suck so ic an't carry shit in solo if the other two suck

[urban skiff]

make 'em

[modern grail]

do the brawl, its hella fun

BM, aff, balance. kms

2-4

[urban skiff]

brawl is fucked

always one side outnumbered

literally unplayable

[modern grail]

wym stack crit then zug

15 kb free

[urban skiff]

Conq cap being lifted on 14 / feb

guess I'm rescheduling my valentine's date to the 13th

[bleak quarry]

Getting graveyard camped now

This is hilarious

[crude bane]

meanwhile forstmage hitting 200K glacial spike kekw

[urban skiff]

If everyone is zugzug then no one is zugzug

[crude bane]

they HAVE TO remove mastery from this game

solve all problems

[bleak quarry]

Why?

[urban skiff]

tripple vers in pvp

[crude bane]

cause any classe scalling with that just become broken somehow

they scalling is just too brutal

give us AP and SP we good

[muted surge]

Arms scaling isn’t that good

And arms is broken af

[wheat jay]

arms busted

[crude bane]

broken ?

[wheat jay]

yes

[crude bane]

why you find it broken

[muted surge]

200k ms, infinite mobility, undispellable fear

Burst every 30 secs

[crude bane]

pvp isnt solo shuffle

check 3V3 Ladder

war is dog

[muted surge]

50% ms

Insane survivalbilty

[crude bane]

rogue is better at any point

[modern grail]

checked yesterday top war is like 58 on ladder

[crude bane]

dh same

[muted surge]

Not cc able in bladestorm, and you got 2 per minute

[modern grail]

PK #1 rn. our salty DK overlord

[muted surge]

Range stun

[crude bane]

still cant see where war is B R O K E N

[modern grail]

legit no clue how saul managing 21 with enh sham rn lmao

[muted surge]

Look at locks, then have 0 mobility, low damage, low burst and bad survivability

And then tell me that arms isn’t broken

[modern grail]

cant compare classes like that

[crude bane]

got you

you can delete your post

we spotted you

[muted surge]

I can compare an apple to a pizza

[crude bane]

thats why i think you wrong we dont share the same definition of BROKEN and i still think mastery should be removed

[modern grail]

fury, assa, dh. fucking cluster zug fest. honestly love it. 4-2

1996, season high. cyall tmrw

[crude bane]

how you can stop under 2K go for it

[modern grail]

i don't have 30 minutes to sit in queue rn

all day 30m. the 9-5ers getting home but not soon enough

gf told me to fuck off we're in there boys!

[wary axle]

baaaseddd

[modern grail]

90 sec queue what does this mean??

[sharp meteor]

Idk my last 3 queues were instant

[modern grail]

3-0 then 0-3 rip

[sharp meteor]

sketchin me out

[modern grail]

1999 now tho

[sharp meteor]

ah yes a healer diff episode

[wheat jay]

Anyone had their retard episode recently?

@sharp meteor have you Heard mine?

Shit's an absolute banger

[lean burrow]

sigma grindset

[sharp meteor]

hit me with it

[wheat jay]

Me and arms warr

[mild pike]

What’s the easiest build to start out with in PvP? Is it spear or bleed build?

[wheat jay]

I trap enemy healer

Feral is on 30%

Warrior LEAPS to freshly trapped healer

[sharp meteor]

bleed build without skullsplitter probs easiest

[wheat jay]

Breaks the leap

Charges back to feral

Feral gets full healed and I die in stun to full burst from feral

[spice hornet]

was the warrior @full quiver by an chance?

[sharp meteor]

gg i was the warr

[wheat jay]

And other dps, dont remember what class it was

[wheat jay]

He's NA, i'm EU

[sharp meteor]

oh and i did this queuing with drainer out of the finder one day

[wheat jay]

But i wouldn't be surprised if he did such a thing

[sharp meteor]

jumped to break his incap roar

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[sharp meteor]

then missed kick on clone

and he gets cloned

[wheat jay]

XD

[sharp meteor]

and he's like

this

subhuman

[wheat jay]

WARRIOR IS AN APE, AS PER USUAL

[mild pike]

Is it viable? New to warrior pvp. I heard it’s not the best in ss

[sharp meteor]

ya

[wheat jay]

You heard that in your head in Drainer's voice, didnt you?

[sharp meteor]

ya

[wheat jay]

XD

[full quiver]

Go off sis

[spice hornet]

[modern grail]

you're only allowed to sks if you're a shield swap god

[spice hornet]

what happened to that specimen?

he still around?

[lavish heron]

you guys struggle to kill sp?

or am i just shit

[regal pond]

what do you guys think about gnome warriors pcp

pvp*

[lavish heron]

DID is where its at bud

[full quiver]

He popped up in dh disc for a while and disappeared there too

Muy autismo

[spice hornet]

hahahah

[modern grail]

4/4 we're 2k bois

[sharp meteor]

haste good

bigger rage pool good

off global freedom on short cd very good for arms

[quaint osprey]

Do you think blizz is doing something if the ladder keeps stalling like this?

[sharp meteor]

might be bis arms race if dwarf falls off due to assa/feral gutting or w/e

[sharp meteor]

uh maybe or maybe s1 is just deflated and everybody gets 3k in shuffle but duelist 3s lmao

[quaint osprey]

Everybody is hyping up SS with marginal rewards meanwhile the "main" PvP Content is getting ghosted like my emails

[sharp meteor]

might be chill eventually here it's already kind of inflating but

they will likely prop up ladder in later seasons

s1 always highest participation and it's dead rn

and because it's dead and hard to push nobody queues

so it's deader and harder LMAO

[quaint osprey]

Technically there are players but blizzards pogchamp mmr system hinders them from getting matched

But they really did themselves no favor with not giving SS some kind of nice cosmetic rewards

maybe in S2 then

id even take a glad version of the ugly wyldercliff mount lmao

make it like win 150 rounds while 2.4 or smth

[sharp meteor]

[sharp meteor]

probs what they'll do for later seasons

we haven't seen any other glad drake tints

[modern grail]

why would it need it? blizz needs to disincent SS cause it killed 3s ladder

[sharp meteor]

so could still be working on new models of the other 3 dragons

[sharp meteor]

nah shuffle needs a dragon

just not the 3s one

[quaint osprey]

i think the highlander drake will just get recolors

because its the best one

[modern grail]

healer specs only and i'm in

but having a reward like that is just gonna pound normal ladder further into the ground

[quaint osprey]

times change

they always could rebalance 3s later on if it should get stomped to the ground

to 2.1 + 50 wins if times are that dire

[craggy meteor]

Does this build look alright? Kind of a variant on normal spear build but adding rend because I feel rend is pretty efficient damage now BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJkDkoUKJBAAAAkQkIKkEQENISwBoIRIBQSkAAAAAAAAQSKJiAC0QA

[quaint osprey]

but people nowadays dont want to teamqueue anymore

[sharp meteor]

lmao

glad just goes back to being roughly top 0.5% or top 1%

[quaint osprey]

the ladder is just the everday r1 fellas and their 5 alts

[modern grail]

it's almost like 90% of the player base screaming from the rooftops for the last 2.5 xpacs knew what was coming if blizz kept fucking everything up with systems on sytems lol

now blizz is actually being dece, but the players all left. burned too many times

[sharp meteor]

everybody wanting 3s to be easier but nobody wanting to play 3s curious

they'll prop up ladder in s2 but idk about this season

[modern grail]

getting pounded by glad mounts at 1700 will do that

[sharp meteor]

unchained or real ones

[quaint osprey]

at least its something for the eyes b4 getting kidney + blind into -24

[sharp meteor]

oh and everybody 2pc in 2 weeks

er 4pc

[modern grail]

that issue is kinda over now. it's mainly a problem in the 1-2 months after raid comes out before catalyst because of RNG. in s2 everyone will at least have their 2p 4p while they work towards new tier

[quaint osprey]

kind of weird that for one of the best looking glad mount since a long time the ladder is so dry

only topped by WoD Gronnlings dont @ me

[modern grail]

gross

[craggy meteor]

Do you guys prefer blademasters or warlords torment? I feel like warlords is definitely more damage on the all-in go but then I use both root breaks (avatar & bladestorm) in one go and am very vulnerable to roots from that point

[steel trout]

depends on what u vs

[modern grail]

and your cr

and your build

[craggy meteor]

I'm either playing spear/unhinged or roar/unhinged atm

and currently 1700 in SS. Aiming to go 1800 and above soon. Still not played that many games yet

[modern grail]

into 2 melee, non-dk then blademaster. blademaster is not as needed higher cr cause healers put dispel on their bars

personally i don't really use BM at all. the crit is valuable, and the forced BS can mess up some Go's

[steel trout]

i use blademaster into most non pet class game

[modern grail]

if you're confident you can cleave then yeah, but if there's a range then you're losing value pretty consistently

[steel trout]

no u get a unpeelable go even if its on 1 guy

[modern grail]

yeah. i guess it's mostly pref. i feel like the BS gives up some control, but with obvious benefits. @craggy meteor real answer is if you feel like the freedom from blademaster is better for you, it can't hurt

[cinder thorn]

Is it 1 catalyst shit per week?

[modern grail]

yep

[cinder thorn]

Thx

How many needed to change a piece

[modern grail]

1

if you wanna min max for tier then wait for vault

[cinder thorn]

Sure? I had 1 and it was red

[modern grail]

you can't use it on non-conq or non-drakebreaker gear

[cinder thorn]

Yes I tried to do it on conquest

I'll try again tomorrow

I want the 4 set

[obtuse coral]

how important is 4 set arms in arena? i can swap out my gloves from 395 to 424 but i'd lose 4 set

[fair tide]

keep gloves

[modern grail]

2p high, 4p mid

[fair tide]

424 are going to outweigh 4set bonus

you want the stam and such

[obtuse coral]

so dont keep gloves?

[cinder thorn]

Isn't 4 set same stats as 424

It says upgrades to 424

[fair tide]

keep your 424

[cinder thorn]

In pvp

[obtuse coral]

i dont have 424 thats what im saying

[cinder thorn]

Ah ok

[obtuse coral]

my gloves are normal mode tier gloves

and i can buy the conquest gloves

[fair tide]

im saying your gloves that break 4 set

are 424 right?

[obtuse coral]

yes

the ones i can buy

[fair tide]

keep those

anything less than 411 isnt worth to get 4set

[steel trout]

i use 408 gloves and chest 😎

[fair tide]

you'll lose too much stat

[steel trout]

5% dammm

[obtuse coral]

its that or swap gloves to 408 world pvp gloves and buy the 424 chest to replace my 408 one

[steel trout]

408 set one?

better replace ur gloves then cuz chest has better stats

[cinder thorn]

Don't overthink it

Just get whatever you want you'll have all 424 soon

[steel trout]

ya it doesnt really matter i was using 2 normal pieces until this week

and i cant tell a difference going from 2 normal pieces to 2 pvp pieces

[cinder thorn]

Exactly

All those min maxing noobs wasting their time and other people's

Just don't be naked and ull be fine, all stats are good

A good player with non meta stats will still kick people's ass

[obtuse coral]

is stat prio still vers > haste > crit > mastery?

[steel trout]

haste if u play bleed build prob

for ms/spear crit > haste

[fair tide]

crit is still fine for bleed

bleeds crit hard

[sharp meteor]

Arms
Executioner’s Precision is now 30% effective in PvP Combat (was 50%).
Martial Prowess is now 33% effective in PvP Combat (was 50%).
Overpower damage increased by 20% in PvP Combat.
Slam damage increased by 40% in PvP Combat.

[steel trout]

where u see this

[fair tide]

wowhead

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-tuning-incoming-february-7-updated-1507168

[sharp meteor]

the literal

blue post

[steel trout]

Vault Delver’s Toolkit 4-piece set bonus Bleed damage bonus reduced by 50% in PvP Combat.

thank god

[fair tide]

slam increased by 40%

lol

[sharp meteor]

Some dev sees 1% pick rate on slam talents

and thinkin "no absolutely not"

[fair tide]

martial prowess really hurts

60% nerfed by 33%

so this is a big MS nerf

: /

[little lava]

no

it was already nerfed by 50%

not its nerfed by 66%

67% to be precisseful

u get 10% per stack

and now u get 15%

[sharp meteor]

warrior cord mathematics

hm need to try slam talents now

[quick carbon]

Told you boys mortal strike nerfs were inc

[fair tide]

blizz barely nerfed rogue

[copper hare]

Hunter

Beast Mastery
Damage dealt by Hunter and pet abilities increased by 5%.
Marksmanship
Damage dealt by Hunter and pet abilities increased by 5%.
Survival
Damage dealt by Hunter and pet abilities increased by 5%.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[quick carbon]

rogue nerfs are pretty big tbh

[sharp meteor]

the hunter buffs are

i mean bm kind of offset by 4pc 50% nerf

mm aura buff interesting

[wheat jay]

Survi needs it

[sharp meteor]

its hard to know because there's legit like

[quick carbon]

Wound Poison (Deathmark version) healing reduction no longer stacks with similar effects.

[sharp meteor]

5 surv players

[quick carbon]

so pog

[wheat jay]

Excuse me?

There's at least 6

[sharp meteor]

theres a diaperbot named willy

with goofy hair

who plays surv

[quick carbon]

warrior is still going to be

very very good

[steel trout]

noo

[wheat jay]

There's like two on NA that both are decent at best

[steel trout]

its dead now

[sharp meteor]

dilly and whomst

[wheat jay]

There's two on eu that are good

[quaint osprey]

dang now i need to put slam in my actionbars actually

[wheat jay]

One is a god among mere mortals when it comes to the class lol

[fair tide]

😄

[sharp meteor]

thats fine it did no dam

[wheat jay]

Chaos bolt is chaos needle now

Tickles