@mild thunder
#pvp
mystic barn
cringe
quick carbon
ur cringe wtf
long ridge
when do we get enchant
quick carbon
never
long ridge
how do i find a sp and healer
quick carbon
lfg
flat dome
Weapons in general have been kinda meh
long ridge
i'm 2250 in RSS so I am basically the best warrior here
quick carbon
truue
flat dome
Which is weird cause legion artifacts were so good
flat dome
And the art team is arguably the best department
long ridge
what are thooooooooseee
lucid walrus
2.1 enchant when
long ridge
that's legit thank you
grand scaffold
i had 2 games
where a holy priest has a retard
and a disc priest has high
and i lost cr on both of their teams
got stomped by either a ret or dk
going 5-1 against either
its like
wtf
torpid roost
if the rogue kills inside of a kidney with banner down it's a healer issue
of course I mean 100-0, "kills" will mostly come inside stuns
flat dome
and hope you dont have absolute dunces as healers
Ugh
I went from 2200, to 1800
Before patch, I had a 65% win rate. After, it's like 30. Idk wtf is going on
grand scaffold
fucking terrible matchups
torpid roost
I don't even understand why they're in the same bracket
no commentary on class balance
just why are these people against each other
grand scaffold
who knows
flat dome
Yeah. One of the healers usually go 5-1 or so. Then I get some shit rogue that doesn't peel for the life of me
grand scaffold
i might start playing rogue
torpid roost
rogues have become the most kill horny players
like bro he's at 80%
don't deep dive to kill him
flat dome
And the bad healer sits there raging how nobody deserves a computer
lucid walrus
game inted by a devo who was just straight up bad and a disc who was throwing
dope -13
modern grail
rogue 0-6 in the game i earn rival 2 feelsgood
mild thunder
dk set is soo good /cream
torpid roost
this game has a nutty way of making people feel way too important individually
which in, say, story content I guess is fine
mild thunder
this game has a nutty way of making people feel way too important individually
as in the player, or the npcs?
torpid roost
but in PVP everybody seems to think their teammates are all fucking mongoloids bashing dick on keyboard
even at like 2800
flat dome
Rogues are either really good, or really terrible. Usually terrible when on my team 
torpid roost
guessing the game systems themselves
mild thunder
but in PVP everybody seems to think their teammates are all fucking mongoloids b...
arent they?
torpid roost
and dr fapps, I can assure you, I am a mediocre rogue
I get all the concepts and understand all the plays
and fuck up enough that I'm not good
we exist
flat dome
I mean, that's fine long as you don't go on some god complex
torpid roost
my class was brutally OP a few patches ago MY FAILURE IS ALL YOU RETARDS FAULT
I like to whisper those people "the only constant is you"
flat dome
A healer told a rogue to use defensives and responded with "I don't want to"
torpid roost
kek
rogues live and die by good defensive CD usage
so uh
enjoy the ride down to 1200
mild thunder
A healer told a rogue to use defensives and responded with "I don't want to"
no 
staying alive? thats a healer problem, bucko
drifting jacinth
always blame healers
mild thunder
did we win? no > healer fault
did we win? yes > i am a god dps on my way to r1 and everyone in between me and that goal is a retarded dipshit that is waiting to fall to my OP fotm rerolled blades
drifting jacinth
this guy gets it
flat dome
It's either global or be globaled it seems
mild thunder
become a globalist
flat dome
A resto shaman hit me with a 100k lightning bolt
flat dome
become a globalist <:xeos:945501697847992341>
Gotta fight against the commie casters
modern grail
does arms 4p have an internal cd?
clear mountain
@elfin surge Frozen vs Sophic pvp?
couldn't find anything in here where you compared the two
grand scaffold
can somebody make a pin that tells people enchants
mild thunder
<@269709440146604032> Frozen vs Sophic pvp?
dude just check murlok.io
mild thunder
can somebody make a pin that tells people enchants
i'll edit pins in a bit
clear mountain
dude just check murlok.io
no idea what that is DUDE
mild thunder
DUDE
clear mountain
i dont live in here
clear mountain
dUdE
clear mountain
literally every top 50 arms warrior on pvp ladder uses sophic except for Mud. idk if he just has it cause he swapped from fury or if he actually thinks it's better on arms pvp
mild thunder
its uNder DeVeLoPMeNt
flat dome
Maybe he is poor
mild thunder
did you even check the enchant section?
mild thunder
modern grail
thats pretty cracked
urban skiff
why the fuck are eu servers down?
thick reef
thats pretty cracked
thanks, yeah i tried to play smart
tardy flame
I was 4-1 in the shuff where I got 2400, and with the lobbies overall rating that would be enough to get 2400. Ended up 5-1 and played like an absolute god in the last round because I was feeling so good instead of being stressed about winning
I need to bottle that feeling and take it into every match
thick reef
thats sick dude
yeah man i got that feeling going into the final match
i was 5-0 i coudnt close out the last game sadly
but its ok
tardy flame
Were you against double DH in the last one?
shut barn
thick reef
ty
thick reef
Were you against double DH in the last one?
sp/dh
we won all games against double dh
but the sp/dh eventully rotted us
tardy flame
Good, good
tardy flame
My lobby had Aff/SP, and I lost a round to them when they had the Disc healer too
tardy flame
I am too 😅
I got 4/5 killing blows too. Seeing that Aff fall over to the big 100k Exe + 40k Fatality proc felt great every time
wanton apex
Does kittycleave have a script or set up? My friends and I picked up the comp after getting burnt out on our Jungle comp.
At the moment we just bolt off target and feral stun the main target for our goes. It mostly works at our rating (1500). We played jungle at 1950 this season and I literally can’t imagine losing to us lol
mild thunder
Does kittycleave have a script or set up? My friends and I picked up the comp af...
in my experience, and im by no means an expert at kitty, you're not going to be getting that scripted experience that you get from jungle. there's far more target-swapping and random kill opportunities that you're capitalising on instead
you also have access to a lot of stuns in that comp (bolt, bash, maim, w/e a healer may bring), and a lot of cleave damage
target swapping is also super easy since the feral will almost always have a rip up on all targets, on top of short CD stuns and sharpen
wanton apex
Yeah that part has been really dope, actually! My favorite part of arena games are swaps so I’m looking forward to that.
Ty for the info my man
mild thunder
nws mate, good luck on the push 🙂
waxen oasis
You guys still running sks build?
waxen oasis
i always miss my spears -_-
rotund thunder
You get a root after your charge
Use your spear in the next global
You can also use it after a stun if you stun someone out of position
waxen oasis
also feels like a lot of classes can get out of it
rotund thunder
Just a couple
waxen oasis
dk, dh, lock, evoker?
rotund thunder
Paladin is the only one who can get rid of it for others
waxen oasis
- pali
rotund thunder
And paladin isn't a typical focus
rotund thunder
Roar isn't bad, you're just giving up a crit window and CC
woeful solstice
Use your spear in the next global
you can get a harder hitting spear if you put deep wounds on first with your go
ive had spear crit 100k+
you need piercing verdict tho
rotund thunder
yeah csmash->Spear is godlike
waxen oasis
so avatar and CS before spear?
rotund thunder
If it's a likely kill youu can blow both, yes
But if you're just trying to pressure, just use CS
rotund thunder
I generally hold my fuck you for defensives like blur
Even outside of my burst window arms is doing enough damage ot scare people into using them
especially if you have sharpen blade to fuck their inc healing
Also don't use slam unless you only have 20 rage and need to kill a totem or something
Rend does more damage than it lol
But typicall you're using MS/OP/EX
full quiver
sharp meteor
Inactive. 😭
It's always bleak to see sites like that die because wow just isn't big enough to generate enough traffic to them for it to be worthwhile.
quick carbon
ive been playing the no skull splitter every other bleed talent
and its satisfyingly fun
bright stream
ive been playing the no skull splitter every other bleed talent
hows it look for higher rating?
spear kinda inconsistent esp. OCE ping
sharp meteor
the cool thing baout roar is that it doesn't make the spear weakauras go off
so paladins might not bop
locks might not gate
they just sit tehre and wait
pure hornet
?
shadow vine
guys what do u think about da joefernandes spec ?
hes not using rend, i like it but iv no idea if i'm losing much damgour
mild thunder
idk why people are avoiding using rend at this point 
muted surge
Bonegrinder for the big 14 sec ww ?
Ww with sos doesn’t seem so good, and 70 rage is a lot
rotund thunder
Yeah not a fan in PvP
I'd rather keeep the cheap whirlwind to rogue check
Need to keep in mind the big reason it's taken in PvE even on ST right now is test of might
which we aren't running in PvP
woeful solstice
im in danger
indigo barn
idk why people are avoiding using rend at this point <:keks:936231610850897992>
I've seen bahj ignore rend in favour of crit talents in 3s as well
rotund thunder
im in danger
Don't know what you're talking about. All I see is a juicy rebound.
Remember when piercing howl would break stealth
mild thunder
I've seen bahj ignore rend in favour of crit talents in 3s as well
but there are no crit talents you're favouring for rend
rotund thunder
and had no CD
rotund thunder
but there are no crit talents you're favouring for rend
Yeah only alternative is skullsplitter
mild thunder
bajheera takes bloodsurge > rend, which is somehow even more of a waste
rotund thunder
and in PvP you can just... swap SoTC in for Warbringer
woeful solstice
Don't know what you're talking about. All I see is a juicy rebound.
im about to 0-6
lol
tilt
mild thunder
So much rage.
legit
rotund thunder
they never hard cast.
mild thunder
i dont understand the logic
rotund thunder
So it's hard to tell when a good time to reflect is, and nothing to interrupt
sharp meteor
Eh, at least reflect has the wall despite being knocked off now.
mild thunder
"rend doesnt provide value because im too gcd-capped, so i'll take an extra rage talent even though im rage-capped"
rotund thunder
Yeah, 5 sec of 20% damage reduction is nice
sharp meteor
I wouldn't say wall off CD but def if you see skyfury prime wave whatever
sharp meteor
"rend doesnt provide value because im too gcd-capped, so i'll take an extra rage...
Ye
rotund thunder
Rend does provide value
It denies rogues full resets on vanish
It does more damage than slam if you have an open GCD
indigo barn
Just leap on them perfectly
sharp meteor
Wounds?
rotund thunder
it isn't standalone
sharp meteor
Not awful but like
rotund thunder
you also take bloodborne
but even base rend does more damage than fully upgraded slam.
indigo barn
Should consider rend as more of a 'burst gain' as a tick could come out when you land a big MS
rotund thunder
that too
It's sustain between your bursts
Don't like, prioritize it over anything important like overpower, execute, or mortal strike
but if you can't hit any of those but you can hit rend, why not
rotund thunder
how much rating you lose?
woeful solstice
-66
rotund thunder
Not too bad
rotund thunder
Now to wait another 30 minutes to lose another 66
woeful solstice
yep
woeful solstice
gonna go punch a hole in my wall instead of queing again
probably more productive
limber relic
Hmmm
Blizos Thunderous roar seems kinda nice
Too bad i already bought full crit gear
sharp meteor
Oh, that's the build I was wanting to play but it seemed
like I'd want skullsplitter and I don't want skullsplitter
hmmm
limber relic
I have full crit and roar crit for 27k/tick
Its bleed build but without the skullsplitter
sharp meteor
No exhilerating blows has me in shambles.
limber relic
Yeah i agree😅
sharp meteor
Maybe I swap the one execute talent over there hmm
limber relic
But i get back2back MS procs up to like 5-6 MS
copper hare
No exhilerating blows has me in shambles.
Pretty meh with the battlelord buff
sharp meteor
Everything else feels reasonable then just wap out concussive blows for wrecking into warlocks and whatnot
Yeah I need to test this hmm
Been trying barbaric and endurance training with storm of swords because rend felt weak
limber relic
Feels like i only press MS anyways with exhilerating
Dont have qny time to press anything else
sharp meteor
yer 🪓
not sure how much of a detriment it is
not overpowering and whatnot
or rather overpowering less
limber relic
I kinda run out off rage when i get 5 ms b2b
Cant ignore pain
My brain wants ms to go on cd before i cn press something else so mby its good to have like 2s break every ms 😂
limber relic
Been trying barbaric and endurance training with storm of swords because rend fe...
Also. Rend is bad and so is slam. I rarely ever use either of them. Such a waste of rage ngl
sharp meteor
wish rend was a little heftier
past wren
anyone else unable to break void tendrils rn?
like it goes to 1hp and literally does not die
steel trout
eu maintenance delayed 3 hours 
digital crater
When does that mean it's up? :(
main moss
Now it says 10 but I'd say "sometime during the day" to be sure
autumn saffron
Wanna bet they will have delayed the maintenace 4 hours but still have the arena que be bugged for 2 days after reset?
main moss
Not betting against that ^^
slender lion
I wish shuffle queues were shorter 😢
sharp meteor
My queues have actually been too short lately.
I've been expecting to get like a mog run in or something and it just pops in 2-3 mins.
slow verge
hey boys, havent played arms in pvp since season 1 shadowlands. whats priority in terms of gearing for conquest? Just ilvl/weaps
And then worry about secondary stats like neck/rings
dapper cypress
guys i got in vault set shoulders and legs
currently playing with 411 pve pants and 415 chest.
I'm thinking to get the 424 pants and buying the shoulders or
should i choose the shoulders and playing with 4 pieces?
agile aspen
playing with pve gear is pretty oof
dapper cypress
yeah good, but with 411 and 415 still with or over honor gear
question is, is the 4p bonus good for arms? 5% more crit for 6 seconds
agile aspen
its ok, not worth saccing conq/drakebeaker slots for i think
but probably if only alternative is honor
bright quarry
if you're already stacking crit it's worth it imo, I just got my 4p (gloves) and losing a bit of vers is an easy trade off for the pretty consistent proc, based on target dummy testing
simple rock
frost arms feels really nice
dapper cypress
perfect!
will go with the shoulders and getting my 4pc
worst case can change the pve items to 424 and 421
simple rock
frost is actually gonna get nerfed
simple rock
bro I forgot frost dk existed
mage yeah
if they don't go him he can setup consistent 200k glacial spike it's pretty dumb
bright quarry
You want the other 4 bits ideally?
no go for the crafted helm
craggy meteor
Oh is that so?
That’s good actually
I got offered tier gloves or conq chest this week in vault
I was gonna go chest as I have honor gear there vs epic dreakbreaker in the glove spot
But maybe I’ll take the tier gloves then
bright stream
mild thunder
is that the pvp enchant?
bright stream
apparently
mild thunder
source?
bright stream
personally I actually like it - might have been cooler if they'd done blue fire though
its just been datamined from 10.0.7
ptr
mild thunder
ah ok cool
i dont hate it
but need to see it in-game
im sick of enchants that go on the handle tho
bright stream
yeah you're not wrong
mild thunder
at least its not red ig xD
steel trout
is kinda shit
steel trout
just some lightning on ur wep
muted surge
So not worth the 2 months delay?
steel trout
ofc not
muted surge
indigo barn
Mongoose 2.0
agile aspen
indigo barn
Idk but it feels like an enchant that would come from m+ not pvp
bright stream
nah it looks sick
indigo barn
Ya know thundering title and all
bright stream
its been ages since we had a good looking blue enchant
and you know all the pve players are gon be jealous
indigo barn
Would be better if it pulsed as fast as lightning tbh
steel trout
i mean its better than shadowlands season 4 enchant
lean burrow
would be better if lightning was more like mythic set's effect
muted surge
That looks like a blue swirly, meh
bright stream
I reckon its better than the last 4 enchants
I like it more than shadowflame and primal victory too
wheat jay
Mace, Axe, polearm
mild thunder
a sword with that style would be so dope too
elfin surge
steel trout
holy fuck hes so smart
wooden grove
The one true R1
elfin surge
just reflect stormbolt
wooden grove
If stunville can do it so can you
elfin surge
late nacelle
last game
i was top dmg
every round
but i went
0-6
what
nah man
solo shuff
is done
i bought item from trading post
lost my coins
didnt get item
nice
my wow is cursed or something
agile aspen
euro servers 
bleak quarry
just play another game for pvp bro
worthy fern
@lean burrow i like that
Im using the pandaren starting sword rn which also looks sick
Especially with primal fire
lean burrow
what sword is that
grand scaffold
its been datamined on ptr
-_-
i hope it looks better tan whats been leaked
i heard trenecatate say the bleed build is legit cranking is that true?
can somebody resend me the known shattering throw known wrecking throw macro
i accidentally deleted it
gentle walrus
whats the stance macro? cant seem to find it in pins 😦
muted surge
Check spec pins
kindred sedge
can somebody resend me the known shattering throw known wrecking throw macro
#showtooltip [known:Shattering Throw] Shattering Throw; Wrecking Throw /cast [known:Shattering Throw] Shattering Throw; Wrecking Throw
Heres one for Disarm/Banner to if you want it
#showtooltip [known:Disarm] Disarm; War Banner /cast [known:Disarm] Disarm; War Banner
¯_(ツ)_/¯
grand scaffold
can i convert it for spear and roar
kindred sedge
#showtooltip /castsequence [known:Thunderous Roar] Avatar, Thunderous Roar /castsequence [known:Spear of Bastion,mod:alt,@player] Spear of Bastion, Avatar; Spear of Bastion, Avatar
for spear have the option to chuck it @targeting circle or at your feet. Hold alt to aim, no alt for feet.
Make sure it works before you go into arena or something. I made that a few weeks ago and it was working great until it just didn't all the sudden.
stark eagle
sometimes editing the text adding a space at the end, save it and then remove space itll magically work again
grand scaffold
for spear have the option to chuck it @targeting circle or at your feet. Hold al...
what part do i add in for @cursor
kindred sedge
I'm not sure if you can. It gets weird adding multiple options for modifiers with a split sequence
stark eagle
Something dont add up
grand scaffold
Something dont add up
ikr
kindred sedge
#showtooltip /castsequence [known:Thunderous Roar] Avatar, Thunderous Roar /castsequence [known:Spear of Bastion,mod:alt,@player] Spear of Bastion, Avatar; [@cursor] Spear of Bastion, Avatar Could try that ig
grand scaffold
I'm not sure if you can. It gets weird adding multiple options for modifiers wit...
nah i just want @cursor
kindred sedge
ah
grand scaffold
can i delete @player?
stark eagle
^ should work, also minus the mod/alt
kindred sedge
#showtooltip /castsequence [known:Thunderous Roar] Avatar, Thunderous Roar /castsequence [known:Spear of Bastion, @cursor] Spear of Bastion, Avatar
stark eagle
What an mvp ^
grand scaffold
this guy is a G
stark eagle
For all the Australian Players, has anyone found a solid time to que to more often get other Oceanic players?
grand scaffold
yeah
worthy fern
I feel like @cursor is an easy way to miss spears
kindred sedge
I cant even see where the fuck my mouse is half the time i try to aim spear
agile aspen
34 minute ss queue
draw
you dont go back to the front of the queue or anything, just not scored
grand scaffold
what point can i drop to get fbv in the bleed build
kindred sedge
i agree
probably an unpopular opinion but i dropped Executioners Precision for it
feel like 9/10 times when I'm executing your usually about to die anyways
kindred sedge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I Don't even notice its gone.
I feel like if your going to drop points its gotta be either that one or massacre
lean burrow
spear is giga dumb
worthy fern
EP doesn’t feel that impactful
lean burrow
sometimes you can press stun and if you aim spear too fast
it won't work
because it wasn't queued
fookin blizzard
worthy fern
I have very fond memories of EP from legion and it’s never felt the same
grand scaffold
idk guys
im thinking bleed build might be the wave
was in a lobby with aff demo and ww
had the most wins
worthy fern
I think both builds work fine
grand scaffold
i might try to push with bleeds tbh
worthy fern
I swapped around a bit during my shuffles push and it didn’t feel very different one way or the other
grand scaffold
beating double lock almost never happens
steep inlet
went 2500 mmr with bleed build without SkS and with big MS
worthy fern
My experience has been if your team lives to either second spear or roar you’re going to win
steep inlet
I love it for my tastes
grand scaffold
I love it for my tastes
yeah
steep inlet
Fuck spear fuck unhinged
grand scaffold
i am not a fan of unhinged]
but i did get 2.4 with it
so
maybe it is better
idk
grand scaffold
bajheera is bajheera
steel trout
unhinged 
grand scaffold
why does he run warbreaker
steel trout
for cleave
grand scaffold
is it better than blunt instruments generally speaking?
steel trout
if u find urself with many opportunities to cleave 👍
grand scaffold
do you run it?
steel trout
sometimes
grand scaffold
why cant murlok just show talents already
legit been a week
-_-
why does bajheera run bloodsurge
is that talent not hot garbage
steel trout
magnusz plays it too
grand scaffold
why
grand scaffold
is bloodletting not better?
worthy fern
You have an extra talent with unhinged build that’s just pretty ass regardless
Bloodletting sucks so does blood surge so does an extra crit percent so does rend
Just pick whatever sucky talent you like
grand scaffold
i guess you got a point there
steel trout
end of the day if u take bloodborne, bloodletting or bloodsurge
not gonna make a big diff
grand scaffold
i guess
cant believe there is a reset today
so whacky
wtf
3 hour maintenance!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!?!?!??!
ima be back in 3 hrs
and if murlok isnt up
😠
agile aspen
3 hours lol
elfin surge
magnusz plays it too
he doesnt anymore
grand scaffold
he doesnt anymore
what do you use
half rain
he doesnt anymore
This just in no warrior's pvp anymore
jk there's like 3 in every solo shuffle lobby
It's either 3 wars and a hunter or it's Me vs Ele/Spriest/Affi, there's no in between
steel trout
makes sense he doesnt since i heard bloodsurge has bad proc rate
grand scaffold
makes sense he doesnt since i heard bloodsurge has bad proc rate
so whats best between all 3 bad talents
steel trout
i have no idea
worthy fern
I use the slam crit talent just cause
I don’t like rend
Maybe the occasional slam I press will hit harder
Probably better off taking the 1 percent crit though If I think more about it
steel trout
im using bloodletting
warm portal
I use the slam crit talent just cause
So that my slam can crit the totems and void tendrils
hot solstice
how am i supposed to play this shit? only such guys in lfg for 2s....fuck u blizzard...ty for taking all the lobby into that fucking solo shuffle...evoker demanded 2400exp only btw....fuck this game i am done
furry barely touches th4e dragon and he is dead to a pulp
grand scaffold
Crit the tendrils and stay rooted
yeah wtf is that
hot solstice
srry for words I just cant
hot solstice
yes I do
beacuese he is the only to blame
imagine being outhealed bt disc
imagine diying to furry with no burst cd on
rustic magnet
FuRRies own
worthy fern
@hot solstice did you go war or disc
late nacelle
yes
late nacelle
US LUL
warm portal
How quickly do you earn the coins?
Does it seem like you can burn through the progress track quickly?
modern grail
You have an extra talent with unhinged build that’s just pretty ass regardless
alternatively "we get every talent we want, with a meme point left over"
steel trout
Does it seem like you can burn through the progress track quickly?
seen some1 have the mount alrdy for getting 1k points so
seems very fast
late nacelle
u can buy out entire shop
after like 2 hours
but
it can bug
and not give u item
but u still lose ur coins
muted surge
We got extra coins right?
Or is it intended that you can buy the whole shop every month
frank knoll
Warrior under represented in AWC
hollow ore
how many?
gloomy river
soory noob question, but shouldnt all rewards be 405 ilvl?
modern grail
lots of people having the bug. all 3 of mine were 382 and cannot be upgraded. submitted support ticket and got auto replied and closed lol
gloomy river
well fuck
modern grail
i mean it's not the worst thing, pve ilvl doesn't matter too much but still v annoying and using catalyst on it doesn't fix it as far as I can tell. didn't want to waste a charge on a bugged item
gloomy river
they will propably hotfix it
modern grail
i'm hoping so, but they didn't hotfix out the free drakebreaker gear I got last week during the strife bug so idk
hot solstice
<@410180985410420736> did you go war or disc
disc mostly swap on defs and to peel dragon
idle forum
shy aurora
Random question but can dev evokers use two hand sword?
inner oasis
It is worth to play with 4 set even if it is the wrong pieces over 2 set with more versa right? Head-gloves-legs-shoulders
inner oasis
Random question but can dev evokers use two hand sword?
Pretty sure they can
shy aurora
Aight
hard hound
It is worth to play with 4 set even if it is the wrong pieces over 2 set with mo...
Shoulder chest gloves and legs
modern grail
whats the best way to enable pvp scaling in open world for testing?
frank knoll
how many?
I don’t see any at the top, only assa rogue, s priest, Devoker, DH and WW and jungle
dark sparrow
whats the best way to enable pvp scaling in open world for testing?
pvp dummy
dense rover
leg enchants i use that armor kit thingy?
steep cairn
Fierce armor kit
inner oasis
Shoulder chest gloves and legs
Yes that was what i ment. I dont have the right items. But is it worth going with 4 set in the wrong slots
vapid tartan
Is drakebreakers better to equip than honor gear? Mine scales to 408 pvp not sure if losing 3 ilvl is worth the set bonus
Haven’t upgraded it yet either
queen peak
Set bonus only works in open world
grand scaffold
can somebody bait troma into linking his bleed build
queen peak
For drakebreaker
kindred sedge
Drakebreaker is something you use if you are minmaxing a specific stat
vapid tartan
ah okay so just for like wpvp and stuff?
queen peak
Yeah
kindred sedge
world pvp or is you just want a peice for the same slot that scale with pvp but with a different stat than the honor gear
flat dome
Dafuq? They are buffing tranquility? lmao
vapid tartan
Is orc worse than before now with the trinket giving cc and human having an extra one basically
unborn sonnet
hey all, we dont want to drop crafted helm atall if possible right? just got helm tier out of my chest, but infurious vengeance does so much
fresh char 4 conq items and im rly about to take sockets
grand scaffold
Dafuq? They are buffing tranquility? lmao
in what way
flat dome
"Tranquility healing is now increased by 100% while in arena combat with 5 or less allied players."
queen peak
Is that in 10.0.7?
flat dome
Yeah
slow tusk
Yeah but they nerfing keeper of the grove PvP talent so it really just comes out as a 20% tranq buff
slow tusk
It’s going from 100% increased tranq healing to 20%
ocean hare
if you lost duelist are you still gonna get the 2.1 enchant?
deft yoke
How much crit is everyone going for as arms?
grand scaffold
if you lost duelist are you still gonna get the 2.1 enchant?
i think so
i got 2400 and can still buy 2400 tmog
so
i think it depends on season high
grand scaffold
bro i lost 130 rating over the course of 2 games
you will get it back
ill get my cr back
🙂
placid marlin
guys im so fucking bad at pvp, stuck between 1300 and 1400 i wanna kms
grand scaffold
guys im so fucking bad at pvp, stuck between 1300 and 1400 i wanna kms
first of all
dont
second of all
what are you playing
spec mode etc
modern grail
if you're taking damage sit in dstance. in your opener use smash bstorm and roar. save avatar for second go after you get a wall. 2nd go is smash, avatar, roar if you have it
grand scaffold
WTF\
slender lion
cus i keep missing spear
You could storm bolt into spear? That way they csnt move
grand scaffold
5 HOUR MAINTENANCE!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
WOW ON SOME GAY SHIT
ITS NOT EVEN TEUSDAY
slender lion
5 HOUR MAINTENANCE!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Huh?
unborn sonnet
is anyone able to offer some advice on a problem ive got with gearing
kinda strugling to find info
late nacelle
equip good items
warm portal
cus i keep missing spear
Just keep playing with it. It's a weird skill
Only spearing people who are stunned, slowed or snared will help you a lot
If you just focus on doing big fucking dam you'll get to 1800 ignoring all other mechanics
slender lion
check battle.net app
At work so can't lol
warm portal
Don't worry about it. The more you play the better you'll get
Can't turn those into 5-1s if you don't que more
dense rover
what is bis pvp belt? conq belt?
flat tide
Dn belt
flat tide
Deez nuts
flat tide
Stfu or ill kiss you
flat tide
Real
mystic mist
anyone else got 1hr queues in SS 1600raiting?
crimson yew
hey guys i have a question, what should i buy for conquest? crit versa sword or versa mastery polearm? arms here
cosmic rover
crit vers sword probs depending on your current stat weights
cosmic rover
modern grail
how many of yall are playing bleed over spear?
twin mural
im adjusting to the switch RN
modern grail
waiting for servers so I can do the same. tired of switching spears and getting insta disarmed
twin mural
yeah haha, also locks tping out of it
muted surge
Half the classes walking out of it*
vapid tartan
when in rotation are you supposed to go to dstance? I usually avatar, orc racial, cs , double overpower, ms, hamstring, spear bladestorm
pine cobalt
I prefer bleed but spear definitely has its niches its better too
muted surge
when in rotation are you supposed to go to dstance? I usually avatar, orc racial...
Why would you use dstance in your dps rotation?
You use it when you need it
grand scaffold
there is no rotation in pvp
muted surge
Also, why do you pop everything just to use hamstring?
vapid tartan
idk im pretty new to the game and I found that sometimes i get interrupted or burst doing the double overpower so I was thinking i needed to dstance
i have no idea what the big abilities other classes are so my thinking was dstance might make that less punishing but idk
vapid tartan
Ah okay, also are you supposed to use ignore pain before all this
muted surge
I mean if you use it in your burst you lose 15% dmg so idk
You are supposed to use ip when you need it
Or are about to be rage capped
But wdym interrupted
vapid tartan
Thanks
muted surge
Killed?
vapid tartan
Like
maybe like I’ll be attacking someone then another dude turns on me
And I just melt
muted surge
I mean, that would happen regardless if you burst or not
So you just use def stance when you need it to not die
There’s no rotation or anything really
vapid tartan
Am I supposed to use the increase max health abilities like rallying cry and the pvp trinket at high hp?
I noticed a lot I forget rallying cry and die by sword etc till I’m low then just panic press them
muted surge
@grand scaffold extend again 
muted surge
Am I supposed to use the increase max health abilities like rallying cry and the...
Im too low rated to answer that
Personally I pop it when my heal has nothing and enemy team bursts
Dunno if it’s right or wrong
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> extend again <:peepohide:841312329424437298>
huh?
muted surge
Maintenance
pure hornet
Guiz is trophy of strige active? I meant malicia
muted surge
Maybe it wasn’t you complaining
vapid tartan
Is there like a guide that tells me the big abilities of other classes? Pretty lost on what spells to interrupt or reflect as well
And who I’m supposed to target
muted surge
what the shit are they doing ON A WEDNESDAY
At least you got time to hit the gym
pine cobalt
@grand scaffold 2400, I'm washed af
grand scaffold
At least you got time to hit the gym <:okayge:917646812519739433>
nah
9:40 pm here
a f r i c a
motto:
pine cobalt
Came back like 2 weeks ago, hadn't played since early Legion 😅
grand scaffold
disrupt time
pine cobalt
And they trying to fix the trading post issues I believe
grand scaffold
can you send me your build when wow is back up?
pine cobalt
Ya
pure hornet
Guyz wtf are dreakbreakers upgradable now to 480??
warm portal
Visual bug
slender lion
actually kinda wanted a trink for pve, but think the ring is the best option. gay
modern grail
it's probably to do with the gear vault issues a lot of people are having but idk
gentle horizon
it's probably to do with the gear vault issues a lot of people are having but id...
if they can fix my 382 pvp vault piece into an upgradable piece thatd be nice
lean burrow
if lock casts amplified curse of weakness on me during burst and my team doesn't have decurse
am I giga cucked?
idk if amplified curse requires decurse or magical dispel
pine cobalt
@grand scaffold was standard spear to start, but ya, especially after the buff to roar
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> was standard spear to start, but ya, especially after the ...
nice
roar broke my loss streak
idk about spear anymore
dark sparrow
am I giga cucked?
Yes unless you bitter immunity it off just for the burst
tulip sail
so for arms is crit still the best stat?
queen peak
so for arms is crit still the best stat?
Depends on build. Bleed builds like haste more
pine cobalt
You want both, but bleed definitely wants more haste than the regular build
tribal wedge
I think badge has more value for a huge ms, Insignia gain value for the bleed build maybe
ripe turtle
so in my case would it be pointless to go bleed?`since i got literally 0 haste
idk if there are other talents thjere to pick up, maybe critical thinking?
limber relic
Stil haste>crit for bleeds
echo musk
Anyone using MS build, how much haste are you rocking? not sure if I should get a few items with haste instead of heavy vers/crit
tribal wedge
But you Can still have a build with bleed/roar and still got the huge ms
steep cairn
When you’re have blademaster’s torment how do you go about burst the bladestorm on avatar feels kinda clunky and weird to me
tribal wedge
If cleave sweaping strike --> spear --> Colossus smash/warbreaker --> avatar
That a bit weird but since you Can CS/avatar in the same timing, you Can dodge disarm or stun
dense rover
when opening in SS, do u guys do 2x overpower then MS?
hot solstice
how is this possible? 3s
dense rover
/m
tribal wedge
when opening in SS, do u guys do 2x overpower then MS?
Depends, but i mostly do it
ripe turtle
what haste % should you aim for as min.?
tribal wedge
what haste % should you aim for as min.?
Its up to you, some doesnt care AT all and go 4/5%, other want AT least 10/12%, or 20%
tribal wedge
You Can go rend even with 0% haste
ripe turtle
You Can go rend even with 0% haste
it feels awkward between choosing ferocity or insignia
cinder thorn
He could be spamming with a friend
ripe turtle
have 4% haste now with the 4 set
fair tide
when opening in SS, do u guys do 2x overpower then MS?
I ms to get my bleeds rolling, then start poking with some op/ms setup
worthy fern
@ripe turtle most of your damage will be Ms anyways it doesn’t matter
Rend sucks
Crits are nice
ripe turtle
Ye fair point im trying to roll crit
worthy fern
Bleeds critting are real nice
ripe turtle
but how do you choose between the trinkets tho?
ye might just have rend but im bad at keeping track of it
fair tide
On use is pretty much king
worthy fern
Thunder I mean
fair tide
And it has crit
fair tide
No
worthy fern
Idk not really
I have mine in ava
If I were playing 1 min troar I’d prob line that up
What is the theory crafting behind haste being good for bleeds
In the past haste was good for more globals in csmash
And we were heavily a bleed build
So that helped
But all of your bleeds can crit now and crit hard
ripe turtle
ye might just roll with ferocity but the 4% haste i got now from tier set makes my ocd go
but you're saying that the bleed crits r good at the same time u dont use them?
mild thunder
What is the theory crafting behind haste being good for bleeds
more haste = faster bleed ticks
generally if you're playing the bleed build, you're also looking for more consistent damage, which also increases the value of haste
there's not really any reason to want a haste breakpoint for globals during cs because 1. you're unlikely to get that uptime during cs, 2. if you are, you should be killing them before that final global anyway
if you're running sks + bleed build, i'd probably recommend a good mix of crit and haste, but with a lean on crit since you're still emphasising burst
worthy fern
@mild thunder yea that’s what I’m saying is that was the past
Has anyone determined how much dps increase haste is on your bleeds
@ripe turtle I’ve used bleeds this xpac I jsut don’t like it as much
Both builds are good
pine cobalt
Just a playstyle thing. Both work
mild thunder
Has anyone determined how much dps increase haste is on your bleeds
nope, but my guess is from a pure dps perspective, haste will outperform crit in the long-term, just like it does in pve
but that's not why crit/haste are good
worthy fern
Crit interacts with more of our talents and tier
I do like faster globals when I have haste
mild thunder
most people go for crit because yes, we have a lot of synergy with it, and adds more chunk to our burst
worthy fern
critting your bleeds in sks hits is how you one shot someone right
mild thunder
bleed damage alone? probably enough to be worthwhile... but haste also works with the consistent damage playstyle as a whole
worthy fern
Yea bleeds alone
When you add haste like rend tooltip dmg will increase im pretty sure
mild thunder
if you're playing a full bleed build, you're probably dropping one of either unhinged or EP, or both
worthy fern
I jsut don’t remember how much
mild thunder
so you're already losing some value of the chunky crit burst you would otherwise have
urban skiff
I jsut don’t remember how much
haste increases your bleed damage proportionally.
quick ivy
Is bleed build better than spear ms now?
urban skiff
Is bleed build better than spear ms now?
I see someone went on reddit
quick ivy
Well all three top SS warriors are doing bleed build so. Idk
quick ivy
Fck idk if i should go bleed build or ms
pine cobalt
Try them both and see what you prefer
late nacelle
think i pref arms one tbh
got to 10% on that one
phase 2
then platform fully covered XD
quick ivy
But what is different? How is the bleed build played
pearl sierra
I practically never use slam, is that bad?
ripe turtle
i really like the crit build but tend to not see big crits honestly, also got 26% rn which should be enough
must be doing smth wrong on rota
robust hearth
@elfin surge is this bug? world pvp gear can be upgraded to 479 ilvl in pvp!?
urban skiff
anyone try magetower
Did they fix MT yet? Last I heard it bugged out people so their pvp gear no longer scales right
dark sparrow
<@269709440146604032> is this bug? world pvp gear can be upgraded to 479 ilvl i...
This again? That’s a bug, they had to disable the upgrade system because of it last week
pine cobalt
@robust hearth display bug
robust hearth
i didnt notice it being disabled at all
kindred sedge
But what is different? How is the bleed build played
I mean its played basically the same, colossus smash into big cds for burst. I would say its very strong overall, and if you are on the fence about it just try it out. Took some time to get used to coming from spear spinning, but its definitely worth a try at the very least.
If nothing else it will give you more than 1 option to approach different types of comps
hard hound
Well all three top SS warriors are doing bleed build so. Idk
Bleed slap af
kindred sedge
It do be hitting hard af tho
urban skiff
If nothing else it will give you more than 1 option to approach different types ...
Ironically having bleed be stronger is a buff to unhinged. The uncertainty makes it harder for opponents to script a response to our bladestorm/burst
kindred sedge
general rule I have is if theres pets im 100% going bleed
azure willow
the 382 ilvl gear bug in vault is fixed yet ?
hard hound
No
pine cobalt
Ya bleed build destroys pets
green mist
If I wan't to get into pvp do I need to get the pvp gear or would I be ok with 380gs
azure willow
you need pvp gear
tribal wedge
i really like the crit build but tend to not see big crits honestly, also got 26...
Before pressing your Big burst make sure to have 2 op buff then press every thing and luckily you Crit for huge ms