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muted surge
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Only started recently with melee wings

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But idk how it’s in higher rating, in my scrub 1.8 range Disc priest dmg seems retarded

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If unchecked they do the same as some dps

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But that might just be bad players so idc, if it’s in high elo the same yea they gonna get nerfed

severe basin
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bro

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all caster lobbies are just completely fried

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you may as well just leave and lose 150 rating

muted surge
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I prefer caster lobbies compared to 2x rogue and mage

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Can’t win against rm :(

severe basin
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kill the healer or rogue

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depending

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i just had evoker/ele/afflock/

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told the evoker to kill resto shaman with me for easy win and the disc priest raged at me so the dragon didnt follow

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cringe shit no defensives work against them

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bad map too no pillars

muted surge
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People don’t like going on the heals

indigo barn
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The amount of people who stand in unleash water shield

severe basin
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does anyone have tips on how to not die

muted surge
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I don’t even know what that is peepohide

severe basin
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am i just relying heavily on my healer ?

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and trying to do big dam early

indigo barn
muted surge
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Never noticed it, ty

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Maybe bcs I have only seen a single restro shaman in ss so far

indigo barn
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They are strong

severe basin
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they die easily

muted surge
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Idk i only see priests

limber relic
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100k lighningbolt restoshaman

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Kek

crude bane
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how xaryu a mage main can be better than any DP playing for 6 years rn

bleak quarry
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Do you guys prefer fury or arms for open world pvp?

high kindle
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fury is a pve spec and should stay there

bright stream
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imo

severe basin
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arms masterrrace

lucid walrus
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kinda feels like outlaw does the whole brawler thing

undone pumice
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it do do that

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but it also has a gun

shut plover
tawny river
severe basin
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10 day suspension

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sadge

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might have to go outside this week

undone pumice
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unfortunate

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what did u do

severe basin
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i think it was from yesterday

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when i was in a prot pally lobby and i called one of them a c word

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for not pressing bop or any healing buttons

grand scaffold
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bro

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just call people goofy

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thats what i do

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cant get banned by that

lean burrow
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kys (keep yourself safe)

grand scaffold
severe basin
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damn

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10 days of no solo shuffle

grand scaffold
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worst thing i do is call people dogshit

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thats rare tho

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mostly call them goofy

severe basin
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might just boost a warrior on my 2nd acct

elfin surge
grand scaffold
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thats what my friend did

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except he boosted hunter

grand scaffold
scarlet barn
grand scaffold
muted surge
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Cute

craggy meteor
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Man trying to find a 2s partner was warrior is rough

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I look at LFG and there’s at least 8 warriors in there looking for a healer

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Shuffle is dogshit, though. Wish they’d just done solo queue 2v2

muted surge
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Shuffle is fun

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Actual good content

craggy meteor
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I absolutely loathe it as both dps and healer

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Every game just devolves into picking the squishiest target and them getting 0-6’d

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So most of my rounds end boring 3-3s

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There’s no room to make plays because games last like a minute max

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I’d rather play an RBG strand of the ancients than this shit lol

thorn sentinel
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For solo shuffle annihilator or raging blow build ?

hollow ore
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annihilator is overall better but CB is apparently alot of damage

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given it's only hearsay I didn't try CB build

next herald
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Id also Not call those insults but enhancing words to Spice Up your conversation

tribal nimbus
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Any suggestions on when to take wrecking throw?

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Is it good against disc priests?

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How much should I prioritize it against like life cocoon and locks

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Usually I swap off of those big shields but not sure if wrecking throw will nuke that defensive

copper hare
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insane vs locks, fine vs discs, meh vs mistweavers. Most of the time it's better to swap on cocoon since it's so big

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I feel like at this point since the overall dmg and burst dmg is so big the wrecking throw increase pvp talent is not an option anymore specially since arms pvp talents are so valuable

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Like one normal wrecking throw and a mortal strike and I'm through dark pact pretty much

lean burrow
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Mave, my dude

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pls send plater profile for pvp

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got ignored last time sadge

copper hare
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Didn't see prolly, I can, it's just nothing special

tribal nimbus
copper hare
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No it's off gcd

warm portal
steep inlet
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the 2400 effects is underwhelming :(

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maybe because this rocks sets succ

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hope the enchant will be good

copper hare
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I didnt get anything I think

warm portal
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Think he's referring to the thing that just makes all the other gear sets have the glow

copper hare
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Do I have to buy it somewhere

warm portal
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Like normally the LFR set won't have the glows, right? On shoulders and shit.

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It should have shown up in your bags or mailbox

copper hare
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probably auto enabled when I took the item out of the mail or

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so I didn't even notice it

sharp meteor
muted surge
sharp meteor
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I think that it looks neato.

steep inlet
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its automatic mave

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check mog dresser

sharp meteor
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hope they do it in the future

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also 20s equiv to ce and elite lol lmao

copper hare
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you get 2.5 by only doing like 16/17 in every key

warm portal
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Ngl the heroic raid set with the effect + light bringer tabard + smourne looks NICE

wet scarab
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I wish the heroic and normal colorings were switched

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heroic bright blues and whites look a bit manga-esque

sharp meteor
left laurel
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I think 2.5 is 18 avg

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All timed 18 might be slightly higher

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I'm 17-18s with 2420 rn

open glacier
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What do you get at 2k1 this season? Duelist title and ilv upgrade? Something else?

grand scaffold
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enchant when it comes out

open glacier
grand scaffold
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usually its out immediately

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they just havent made it yet

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:/

open glacier
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Ouch

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And 2k4 is tabard and elite xmog from vendor right?

muted surge
open glacier
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Tyvm

muted surge
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I have the feeling that they are gonna delay the enchant for season 2

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It’s the same the whole expac anyway

open glacier
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Ive been thinking, is 5%cc that much noticeable? I'm thinking yo Craft a 418 ring with crit vers and other embellisment, like the spike

copper hare
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No, specially since haste vers is just as good

sharp meteor
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I think that orc can get away with not playing cc piece

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although honestly most of the alternatives suck so eh

open glacier
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Idk, wanted the spike for trying xD I think It hits for 10-14k

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And as orc... It fits

sharp meteor
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spike?

open glacier
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Blacksmith spike

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Its like the helm but Direct dmg

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Instead of dot

copper hare
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the physical embel hits for 5k

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it does like 0.8% of your dmg

open glacier
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Thats the weapon thing

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The spike is proc on being atacked

sharp meteor
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what is it called

grand scaffold
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bruh what spike

open glacier
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"armor spikes"

grand scaffold
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what is it tho

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an armor piece>?

open glacier
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Embellisment

grand scaffold
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idk what that is

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-_-

open glacier
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I think It can fit in rings but idk, wrist could work too

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Embellisment are like crafting enchants

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Like that one in the helm that causes bleeds

grand scaffold
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is it that thing of embellished(2)

open glacier
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Yes

grand scaffold
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oh

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that sucks

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so i cant use my helm and boots with the spike?

open glacier
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U cant use 3 of them, choose 2

grand scaffold
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-_-

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prob gonna stick to helm and boots then

open glacier
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But i dont have boots and as orc It can be tryed

grand scaffold
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why as orc

open glacier
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Stun reduction

worthy fern
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Yea prob good as orc

open glacier
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Boots dont add to that

worthy fern
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Or another one

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Stat proc or something

grand scaffold
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is it 424 like the boots tho?

open glacier
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I wanted to check if It can be used in ring

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Since Im crafting a crit vers 418 one

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Conq+crafted

dusty quiver
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When are y'all disarming rogues?

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Like just on CD?

muted surge
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Only Helm and boots can be 424

digital crater
lean burrow
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e.g. rogue blinds your healer and about to kill someone in stun

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you disarm, your healer is now out of cc and rogue is sad

dusty quiver
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Ooo those make sense

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thank you

marsh wharf
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How do you win va unholy dks in 2s

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They just slam

warm portal
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Slam harder

dark swift
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been watching this

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am i high, or does he just never OP/cleave

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its just like.,.... MS/execute

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is the addon he is using just not tracking the other abilities or something?

sharp meteor
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wtf is cleave

oblique grove
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Do people cleave in arena?

lucid walrus
dark swift
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I guess he is doing op but it doesn't show in the skill list

neat minnow
mild thunder
manic needle
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@last spindle you're being summoned

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Ask him

mild thunder
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he never comes to this server lmao

manic needle
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He will now, because he's cool like me.

polar marsh
mild thunder
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also, it looks like his addon is bugged and doesnt show OP

polar marsh
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i was like, sweet all i gotta do is spam MS

mild thunder
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its pretty obvious, it shows as empty spaces

polar marsh
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im noob to wow nothing is obvious

mild thunder
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its probably because of his stupid op/ip macro

quasi lotus
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you high

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he ops regularly

lean burrow
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did he really stun ghoul

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wtf

glossy sable
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Tab target is a bitch.

sharp meteor
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BIG DAM -bolts pet-

mild thunder
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just use ReTab

lean burrow
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ok I thought it's some big brain strat

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watching without sound so maybe he said something during that time

sharp meteor
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Random tab or lost target and had startattack bound into bolt

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There is no reason to ever bolt a fucking fdk ghoul

mild thunder
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nah, just a retard moment

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stunning ghoul is omega troll

glossy sable
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"Stun the ghoul to make him think the next one is really for him. Then keep stunning the ghoul. Mind games."

vapid rover
mild thunder
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"stun the ghoul so that he doesnt use IBF... uhh, this is so that, um, he actually uhh, um doesn't uhh..."

sharp meteor
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like the most realistic scenario i imagine is that he has /startattack or /targetenemy bound into bolt and was spam bolting the rogue as he vanished/melded and targeted then flung it into the pet

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because i have 100% feigned and watched warrs fling their bolt into reban

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bolt arena 123 helpful for this type of thing

turbid pecan
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hello hello, is playing cs the standard now vs warbreaker?

sharp meteor
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they both good

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just depends

feral heath
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Or he fat fingered mouseover macro with bolt

cinder thorn
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You guys are cute, over analysing

feral heath
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I'm not over anal anything

mild thunder
slender lion
pine cobalt
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What macro

slender lion
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#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

onyx hinge
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#showtooltip Unpainted Mechanostrider
/cast Overpower
/cast Ignore Pain

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i like to mask the icon of the bis macro so my enemies dont see it coming

scarlet barn
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Oh shush you

hidden venture
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Finally getting 2pc today. Is the crit % on MS additive?

soft zodiac
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What rings should arms have?

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I have crit already and a haste in the vault?

slender lion
onyx hinge
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dont use it, its a meme

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its actually like not awful if you never press IP but dont use it

slender lion
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lol i always press ip

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prot warr main, ip is my jam

elfin surge
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do u guys ever just like

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warbanner opener

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and parry opener

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to do dam

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@fickle forge

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???

scenic maple
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BIG DAM

grand scaffold
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blad you like it

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🙂

fickle forge
flat dome
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Wtf is this dumb game

grand scaffold
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😎

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time to go get 4 set

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😄

mild thunder
grand scaffold
mild thunder
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but im retarded

elfin surge
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kekw

mild thunder
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idk, i find it handy into stuff like ww or dh so we can flip the momentum quickly

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when are you pushing 3s next, @elfin surge ?

uneven turret
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we use Insignia or Badge?

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why are more arms using Insignia when its haste and Badge is crit?

mild thunder
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badge

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shuffle is probably the worst thing to check

dusty quiver
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So coming from SL

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do we use bladestorm for roots and stuff or should we use it mainly as burst

long ridge
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Is OP+IP macro actually a good idea?

elfin surge
elfin surge
long ridge
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Bladestorm for roots unless unhinged then try to save it for dps

dusty quiver
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ty

mild thunder
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melee and caster cleaves we're pretty much rolling, but assa/sp or rmp are cucking us

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and they're like 50% of all comps

mild thunder
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maybe "less bad" is more accurate keks

elfin surge
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arcane?

mild thunder
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yea assa or sub and arcane

elfin surge
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aids

mild thunder
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seen a few frost as well, but doesnt seem as good

elfin surge
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i need my disc priest then

mild thunder
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but with disc damage it goes hard

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versed an rmp the other day where the disc was their top dmg keks

elfin surge
mild thunder
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disc is turbo retarded, and anyone that defends it is cucked

grand scaffold
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overwhelming rage good?

elfin surge
mild thunder
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no

grand scaffold
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dang

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is bleed build good atm?

mild thunder
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viable, yes

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better than spear build, probably not

grand scaffold
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dang

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what about spear with 2x bloodborne?

mild thunder
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yea, a lot of people run that

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pretty sure thats whats in my build in pins

grand scaffold
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what do yo udrop to get those talents?

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oh

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idk i didnt check it

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lemme go look

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fbv not worth it?

mild thunder
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ehhhh

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i mean are any of those talents really worth it?

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you're picking between several shit nodes at that point

grand scaffold
mild thunder
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bloodletting, bloodborne, critical thinking or FbV

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ive been running FbV and and one point in CT now

grand scaffold
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why ct

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isnt it just garbo

mild thunder
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because i wanna be logical

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so i invest in critical thinking skills

grand scaffold
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😂

thick reef
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i got tier gloves, is it worth taking, {it has mast}

grand scaffold
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might wanna invest another point there

mild thunder
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i mean, 1% crit roughly equals 1% dps

thick reef
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wtf it has crit/mast just noticed t hat

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i guess i dont take

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even tho its tier

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idk

grand scaffold
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is wild strikes very good?

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or eh

mild thunder
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so you're asking yourself if you're going to get more out of a flat 1% dps gain or a 7.5% bleed dmg gain from bloodborne

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and id probably prefer the 1% flat crit

thick reef
grand scaffold
thick reef
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i usally run it

mild thunder
grand scaffold
thick reef
grand scaffold
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compared to removing it and concussive blows to get blood and thunder with thunderclap

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because

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thunderclap spreading 3 rends

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kinda nice

thick reef
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cant u do that with

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sweeping strikes tho

grand scaffold
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you could

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or

thick reef
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not 3 but 2

grand scaffold
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thunderclap

thick reef
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yea

mild thunder
grand scaffold
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does thunderclap spread deep wounds?

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or just rend

mild thunder
thick reef
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gotcha thanks

mild thunder
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no one is taking drakebreaker gloves because they're bis

grand scaffold
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😦

mild thunder
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its fine to look at, but people look at it like week 1 or 2 of the season, see a few players that got mastery gear from vault and come here saying "oMg, AlL tHe ToP pLaYeRs TaKe MaStErY"

thick reef
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lmao wtf

grand scaffold
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so does thunderclap spread deep wounds?

mild thunder
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no

grand scaffold
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-_-

slender lion
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what pvp talents r people running then?

elfin surge
grand scaffold
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i usually go sharben banner warbringer/disarm

sharp meteor
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disarm into rogues warriors etc feels nice

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warbanner to dodge cc or scuff go on team feels nice

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if can't think of anything there's always just short storm

lucid walrus
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banner is often ridiculous in shuffle

mild thunder
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no one ever kills banner in shuffle

lucid walrus
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2.1-2.2 mmr is by no means cracked but it lives full duration more often than it should in that bracket

mild thunder
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only person that ive ever seen kill my banner in shuffle was claak

lucid walrus
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i’ve seen a few random eles killing mine. other warriors are really good about it too ofc

mild thunder
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i swear most warriors ive versed in shuffle only remember to disarm after they get disarmed

slender lion
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dayum bruh

slender lion
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i guiess blademasters torment works with unhinged in that you cast 2 MS?

mild thunder
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yes

slender lion
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cool ill keep it on just now then

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my lariat with crit/haste should be alright too run right?

cinder thorn
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Does dampening reduce % health healing effects also or only set amount ones

mild thunder
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yes

elfin surge
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yes

high sparrow
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yes

elfin surge
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Warriors are ruining the game

Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.

Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?

mild thunder
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certified caster comment

spice hornet
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q up a shuff on my affy

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gives me a double dh arms warrior lobby

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disgusting

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just dumb how dh is pretty much unkiteable

lean burrow
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just deathbolt for million dmg

wheat jay
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where enchant

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reeeeeeee

sly walrus
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Warriors are ruining the game

Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.

Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?

wary axle
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pogchamping rn

tribal nimbus
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everytime i click an ability, i lag for just a sec but theres nothing wrong with my wifi

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any thoughts on whats going on?

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like my frames drop

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but i dont think im necessarily lagging

lilac rivet
viral charm
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i've seen people running around with triple sockets on their pvp necks, but i can't seem to add a socket to the conquest neck i just bought, am i missing something?

sharp meteor
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Just put three in mine.

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What quality sockets and in what order?

viral charm
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i've tried starting with both a one star and a 2 star it just says item can not be modified

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i can do it with the honor necklace i just replaced with it though

sharp meteor
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Hmm.

twilit ridge
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Warriors are ruining the game

Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.

Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?

viral charm
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i just tried dumping a little bit of honor into it as well to see if maybe it was because it was unranked and still no change

noble stream
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why does the pinned fury build not run ashen?

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execute is our hardest hitting ability and the 4p makes sudden death proc all the time

modern grail
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I just got gauntlets in vault that can't be upgraded?

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i won at 1800 last week, these shoulda been 398

scarlet sorrel
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Warriors are ruining the game

Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.

Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?

modern grail
mild thunder
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Not only does it do mediocre damage, it also disrupts your self-healing

modern grail
mild thunder
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Last I checked the fury 4P was like a ~3% dps gain in pve, probably not worthwhile in PvP

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Even for the rb build, execute isn’t higher priority than crushing blow

noble stream
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how does it do mediocre damage?

viral charm
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@modern grail mine is upgradeable just cant socket

mild thunder
noble stream
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it does way more

mild thunder
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Than bloodbath and crushing blow? I don’t think so

noble stream
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here's one on the quick dummy

mild thunder
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Last I tested, exe did ~2k more direct damage than CB, but it obviously doesn’t build slaughtering strike stacks or interact with enduring rage

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Haven’t looked at bloodbath since 10.0.5, but I imagine if it is hitting harder it’s not by much

limber relic
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hm, blizo's Thunderous roar seems kinda pog ngl

lean burrow
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2-star socket is cheapest, so buy two of those, and one 3-star socket

modern grail
lean burrow
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deadguh

limber relic
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just put 3 3star socket thingy

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simple

robust geyser
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Reminder that it is immersion-breaking for warriors not to be good in pvp

noble stream
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bloodbath - 15043
execute - 15681 + 8646

mild thunder
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Is that on a PvP dummy or a regular dummy?

noble stream
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pvp dummy

viral charm
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i just saw someone else comment about it in game chat i think it's something they've bugged fresh this patch

noble stream
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when vicious contempt is on, bloodbath damage matches execute's

mild thunder
noble stream
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hence my question: why not run ashen?

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that makes execute a guaranteed crit

robust geyser
mild thunder
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Hold on I’m logging on to check some stuff

slender lion
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i just double executed a rogue from 40% man arms is so fun

steep inlet
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Warrior best lore

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Best class

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Most epic too

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And most iconic heroes

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Anduin Lothar Orgrim Doomhammer Varian Wrynn Broxigar Saurfang

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and so on

mild thunder
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dude

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broxigar

bright stream
viral charm
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they should have brought back king chin in Shadowlands

mild thunder
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is a fucking gigaboss

steep inlet
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Broxigar is ultimate chad

mild thunder
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the fact we didnt get his axe in legion is a crime

steep inlet
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All Warrior heroes are chad anw

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both Hellscream

viral charm
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i think stomkar is pretty dope though

steep inlet
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Too

mild thunder
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broxigar xeos

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varok xeos

steep inlet
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Lothar

mild thunder
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cairne xeos

steep inlet
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Execute

viral charm
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baine seramore

mild thunder
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god they fucking butchered that scene so hard tho

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"oh yes, that big fight you've been waiting for the whole movie? lol no"

steep inlet
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Warrior is ultimate WoW chad class don’t @ me

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In the heart of battle in the frontline always leading and executing foes

viral charm
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that scene also fucks up varians back story in that universe

mild thunder
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also, a true chad warrior doesnt go for the testes

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he has respect

steep inlet
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Yeah this scene isn’t good

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But Lothar is good in the movie otherwise

mild thunder
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most underrated badass warrior? lantresor of the blade xeos

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sigma half-breed

steep inlet
#

hehe

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He is good

lilac rivet
bright stream
#

oi team, anyone wanna go to work for me today

viral charm
#

lantrestor, you mean that sad miner i ditched in the garrison?

bright stream
#

you'll be like

#

a real g

mild thunder
#

lothar was the og alliance warrior badass

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although varian is 100% cooler

lilac rivet
#

Okay might be ms crit then

mild thunder
#

nah he used dirty rogue tricks in that scene

#

0/10

#

cheap shot > backstab

wheat jay
mild thunder
#

blackhand was playing smf too keks

#

double fist-weapons

wheat jay
#

You mitigate 100% dmg you don't take

mild thunder
#

what a noob

lilac rivet
#

Wondering how a nice bladestorm would have looked like instead

wheat jay
#

Blackhand fucking roleplayer

viral charm
#

bladestorm will never look good in a live action scene

mild thunder
wheat jay
mild thunder
#

bloodbath + gushing wound does as much as execute will without interrupting your self-heal spam, and bloodbath + vicious contempt is definitely stronger than exe <35%

mild thunder
# wheat jay

wow anime wouldve been 100x times better than a live-action movie ngl

wheat jay
#

True

viral charm
#

i think that goes for anything high fantasy honestly

mild thunder
#

yep its just way too corny as live-action

wheat jay
#

In style of any fate

mild thunder
#

unless they wanted to take it in a super different direction and turn it into more restrained dark fantasy

#

but that'd be lame af

hard nacelle
#

Are we casting Execute as filler when using annihilator

wheat jay
hard nacelle
#

Like is BT higher prio

mild thunder
hard nacelle
#

not really what I meant

mild thunder
#

but yes general rotation would be ramp > bloodbath > exe > bt > other shit that you should literally never need to press

noble stream
#

it's not even always 10%

mild thunder
#

if you want to do high damage as fury, dont play the anni build

#

thats not the point of it

#

it does good damage, but the build is built around your self-sustain

#

rb build will do a fair bit more damage

#

or grow up and play arms

worthy fern
#

Wow movie wasn’t that bad though

#

Was better than a lot of game movie adaptions

viral charm
#

it chose a bad time period to try and cram too much into a movie time frame

#

a lot of stuff doesnt get explained to people who dont know the universe and muddles a lot for people who do

thick reef
mild thunder
mild thunder
mild thunder
viral charm
#

detective pikachu was fun

noble stream
#

Mortal Kombat, surely

viral charm
#

but the bar is low because it's hard to fuck up a universe with no easily accessible story

mild thunder
viral charm
#

i havent seen sonic

mild thunder
#

uncharted was... okay?

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i just feel like if im gonna watch uncharted, id rather just watch indiana jones

viral charm
#

i mean thats kind of bar for a lot of media, would you have enjoyed your time more if you just had rewatched something you know you liked instead

mild thunder
#

sopranos rerun no. 51 >>>> the last of us

lilac rivet
#

Most game movie are jist Cash cows because of the Genre and the already existing Fan base. There are so much more worse movies then warcraft because of that... Was thinking of Monster Hunter right now which was Bad as shit

torpid roost
#

Sonic and uncharted were fine, not exactly cinematic masterpieces, but it's a video game adaptation what're you expecting, haven't seen Pikachu, mortal Kombat was a schlockfest but so were 80s and 90s chopsocky movies so, thumbs up from me

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Warcraft movie was... okay

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Now for everything else, like the Uwe Boll movies, ugh

#

Resident Evil is great b-movie stuff also

lilac rivet
#

You cant take resisent evil to serious anyway, neither in the movies nor the games but there are so much of it that there are some good ans Bad ones

mild thunder
#

i honestly think they just chose the lamest story to tell for the warcraft movie

#

it should have been the lich king story

#

way better written, way more interesting to newer audiences

drifting jacinth
#

Now what Warcraft really needs is a Netflix adapt like Arcane or edgerunners

fair tide
#

ffs blizz

mild thunder
#

i think if they were gonna do a long-running netflix series, they'd be better off basing it on the overwatch universe

drifting jacinth
#

Look at the Lich king Hearthstone trailer

fair tide
#

the shoulders I need from my vault are bugged

mild thunder
#

wow lore is already fucked

fair tide
#

can't upgrade them at all : /

drifting jacinth
#

Eh WoW lore is gettin better

mild thunder
viral charm
#

until next expansion when they shoehorn in a reason for ally and horde to be fighting again

mild thunder
#

wow lore is irrepairable at this point

old loom
#

is tier 2pc better than epic pvp gear ?

drifting jacinth
high sparrow
#

Warriors are ruining the game

Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.

Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?

viral charm
#

there's just a lot of really bad storytelling riddled into the eveyr x-pac

mild thunder
#

they've just gone too far back... it's not sargeras anymore, it was the old gods, then it wasn't the old gods anymore, it was the jailer, then it wasn't the jailer anymore, it was the void lords etc etc

viral charm
#

even now there's shit that blizzard isnt even explaining

mild thunder
#

at a certain point, you need to stop

drifting jacinth
#

Yea it’s startin to get into a Turtles all the way down situation

viral charm
#

what the fuck do the primalists even want, are all the elements mad or are they simply being corrupted by the primalists

coral axle
mild thunder
#

the old gods should have always remained as the Big Bad

#

primordial, sinister, Lovecraftian horrors that we could never hope to defeat

coral axle
drifting jacinth
#

The primalists are fine they’re just a bunch of violent hippies

#

I hope they do some Thulsa Doom shit with Kurog

mild thunder
#

they're just jealous they cant turn into thicc dommy mommies like alexstrasza

drifting jacinth
#

The lore only sucked recently cause they’re trying to tell the story through raid content

mild thunder
#

the only good story arc left in wow is Nozdormu and the Infinite Dragonflight... im scared they're going to tackle it and absolutely fucking ruin it

viral charm
#

@coral axle the problem with that is azeroth IS a titan, to some extent the elementals would be some extension of the planet it self

drifting jacinth
#

I think Odyn’s got some shit cooked up

coral axle
#

yeah its pretty dumb

viral charm
#

no odyns just cooked up they've consistently written him to just be a turbo baby

#

im taking my ball and going home type shit

drifting jacinth
viral charm
#

yeah but actual odin atleast has feats

#

odyn hasnt really done jack shit for our world at all

#

besides giving warrior a sick crib

#

odyn basically has two monumental fuck ups and thats it

#

besides the weight of the title of "prime designate" he's kinda shit

drifting jacinth
#

I mean he’s gotta use his Valhalla Army sooner or later

viral charm
frank knoll
#

Is fury dust now

spice hornet
#

has been for weeks

drifting jacinth
#

Nah I wanna see Odyn do dragon genocide

spice hornet
#

lol

#

fury does nothing that assassin/dk/dh dont already do and more

viral charm
#

i do not want to see odyn as another raid tier

frank knoll
#

Yeah seems like arms does everything better

drifting jacinth
#

Doesn’t have to be a raid

viral charm
#

id much rather he eat his humble pie and admit he could do better

drifting jacinth
#

Plus they did drop recently that he did a fuckton of book burning

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Idk they might steal some ideas from God of War

long ridge
frank knoll
#

I guess fury is still playable if I want some self sustain in BGs, not god awful like BfA season 4

torpid roost
wheat jay
#

Big dommy mommy

waxen oasis
#

Is Arms 4 piece good?

torpid roost
#

MOMMY MILKERS

waxen oasis
#

Whys the gloves have no vers -_-

torpid roost
#

3/5 pieces have vers

long ridge
#

it's worth going for

#

anyone got a weakaura that notifies when deathmark is on you?

torpid roost
#

We should update gladiatorlossa to not be a useless piece of shit

#

For things like that

long ridge
#

aint that the truth

wheat jay
waxen oasis
#

Whats the point of the non tier catalyst pieces?

wheat jay
#

That's why I play other games more now

#

Every other game has better titties on their characters

mild thunder
#

rework versa into a tertiary stat on all pvp gear that works like resilience

wheat jay
#

Would be nice

#

And would enable actual builds to work again

#

FULL VERS a bit of other stat

mild thunder
#

yup

#

i miss wod when you actually put some thought and stuff into stat builds

torpid roost
#

Or just make vers tied to item level and make it more effective in pvp

long ridge
#

bro i feel like such a joe rogan ass manlet...

torpid roost
#

Yeah but +2000str during CDs will assuage your bad feels

mild thunder
#

would stop the 10,000 daily "is tier set worth? weird " questions

mild thunder
#

literally just make it a resilience tertiary stat on pvp gear

torpid roost
#

Either way

#

Passive increase in damage dealt from ilvl

#

Or none

#

All good

long ridge
#

I have every item 424 except belt/cloak at 421 and trinkets 411. What do I do w/ my 1300 Conq, buy trinkets? upg belt/cloak?

mild thunder
#

thats literally just mainstat tho

vivid pumice
#

I know everyone is saying dont tier your pvp helmet but if i got one for free out of vault there's no reason not to use it right?

woeful swallow
#

is it dumb to macro sharpen/ms togther?

steep inlet
#

it is yes

#

You want to sharpen for debuff

#

and not on a full life guy

fair tide
#

catalyst took the verse off my gloves for mastery : /

torpid roost
fair tide
#

is bloodletting worth taking?

#

feels kinda meh

torpid roost
#

is WoW worth subscribing? Feels kinda meh.

mild thunder
#

depends

#

do you like dragon boobs?

smoky anchor
#

Df is fury kino

hidden zodiac
#

anyone have a list of BiS gear for fury

mild thunder
#

check pins > look at stat prio > figure it out

fair tide
#

lotta shaman shit

#

they got a 12 sec wall now? the fuck?

mild thunder
#

its an early build for a patch thats probably 1-2 months away

#

complete nothingburger

lean burrow
#

shaman are finally tanks

teal cedar
#

no vers on pvp tier gloves? i see above this has been discussed 🙂

copper hare
#

now its baseline and they can pick 20% more dmg reduce on it

#

should still get pet wall back

quick carbon
#

still crazy how they havent nerfed rogue

fiery oxide
#

theres just no way they dont get adjusted....right?

copper hare
#

Well pvp tuning is still coming (should have been already anyway), but probably on the weekend and then for next reset

#

Kinda funny how rmp always turns out to be the best comp somehow

#

Would be a nice start if they finally nerf kidney to 30 sec, 20 sec is just so fucking toxic for the game

tribal nimbus
#

does improved sweeping strikes ever see value in a solo shuffle against double melee?

#

or is strength of arms just best all the time

quick carbon
#

kidney bing 30s wont even be

#

that big of a nerdfd

mild thunder
#

cause i really dont feel like maim's a problem, but i can imagine the rogue cries

quick carbon
#

it wouldd justm ean

#

rogues wont dr kidney u

#

lol

copper hare
quick carbon
#

its 22 is it not?

copper hare
#

18

spice hornet
#

its 18-20

#

i believe

#

usually 18

#

idk if that has changed to always be 18

#

or i got cooked on wrath

quick carbon
#

my sArena is wrong then

#

its showing 22s

#

dr

copper hare
quick carbon
#

id rather q into any version of feral in the history of wow

#

than current rogue

copper hare
#

rogue can just marked for death kidney

#

its so braindead

#

Also deathmark being bugged since week one is funny af

quick carbon
#

how is it bugged

copper hare
#

it applies another wound poison

spice hornet
#

double woundy?

#

yeah

mild thunder
#

what does that add to then?

spice hornet
#

40%

mild thunder
copper hare
#

dark iron dwarf enters the chat

quick carbon
fair tide
#

My man spitting facts

quick carbon
mild thunder
tardy flame
#

I think he means "Fury warriors [are] running Rampage", as in, they talent into Rampage /nod

quick carbon
#

imagine saaying OK RUNNING HERE

#

then dddying to 20 yd range

tardy flame
#

Factually correct

quick carbon
#

verdict

#

JV BEING 2 HOLY POWER IS GIGA TOO

mild thunder
#

dude, its an unannounced change for an upcoming remake for a patch that's probably 2 months away

copper hare
#

imagine if they announced the big ret re-design and then just went on to swap the name from holy power to holy strikes

#

full meme

quick carbon
#

itss never too eaarly to mald

mild thunder
long ridge
#

someone on r/worldofpvp said ass rogues are garbage and he can't survive

#

i tried to call him delusional and my comment got automatically flagged and deleted lol

mild thunder
#

thats what you get for being on the pvp subreddit

#

took a look at the sub once, and holy fuck ive never seen a more depraved hive of retardation and cope in my life

long ridge
#

heh yeah

#

when wars were getting buffed they said it was going to be so oppressive and OP

#

don't hear anyone fucking crying now tho

mild thunder
#

everyone on beta said arms was going to be omega triple S tier, destroy everything, most OPest class to ever existededed

#

and look how we ended up on release

lucid walrus
#

people still think our survivability's quite a bit better than it is

#

this isn't a woe is me thing i just mean they haven't experienced trying to play this class into caster teams

long ridge
#

eyah

mild thunder
#

100%

long ridge
#

that's true melee isn't too bad but caster can be so painful specifically ele or mage

lucid walrus
#

heard a few people calling arms "balanced" rather than strong or anything pre-buff

#

and i feel like they're right. there're some rock paper scissors elements to our kit rn

long ridge
#

no... we are in an okay place now but we needed the buff for sure.

mild thunder
#

imo arms high-end dmg is too high atm, but apart from that we're not particularly OP

lucid walrus
#

agree

#

weird design when this class has to run against melee, don't get me wrong

mild thunder
#

yea our best defensive being heroic leap doesnt exactly feel "warrior" to me xD

long ridge
#

true

#

that is very true you have to run to survive very often

mild thunder
#

we need an in-stun defensive

#

like old enraged regen

#

and fuck off IV

long ridge
#

yeah we can die in one kidney easily

mild thunder
#

rogues being our counter omega-sucks

lucid walrus
#

doesn't feel like it should happen

mild thunder
#

i feel like we're supposed to counter rogues

#

and then mages counter us

#

but now, they both counter us

thick reef
#

one day they will fix fury

long ridge
#

i would much rather fight a rogue than a mage but

mild thunder
#

id rather delete the game

long ridge
#

yes rogues are stronger than they should be

modern grail
#

i believe it's # ask question before check pins

severe basin
#

Rogues got off with a bug fix instead of a nerf

#

They’re just gonna keep deleting people with passive damage and now everyone has 4pc

grand scaffold
#

feel free to play it

mild thunder
#

being good isnt the same as being fun or well-designed unfortunately

grand scaffold
#

:/

#

i miss fury from bfa

#

was a good rotation

#

wasnt easily kitable

#

if that had crushing blow

#

sheeeeeesh

mild thunder
#

zzzzzz

#

only good fury is wod fury

bright stream
drifting jacinth
#

wod fury tanks man

mild thunder
#

how is current fury okay? the tree is literally just picking which 2 button rotation you want

drifting jacinth
#

Legion fury wasnt bad

bright stream
#

feels good for practicing/working on basics

quick carbon
#

I actually just wish they’d make smf and tg just transmog based

mild thunder
#

straightforward shouldnt mean literally braindead

quick carbon
#

Tg just looks silly

drifting jacinth
bright stream
#

at least as a warrior spec you've got the generic warrior tools

#

which offset that

drifting jacinth
#

nah the fury playstyle is fine

#

needs more dmg tho

quick carbon
#

fury can do p nice dam tbh

drifting jacinth
#

sustain is still shit

quick carbon
#

fury just doesn’t have the giga 1 shot that arms has

modern grail
#

151k glacial spike. malding

quick carbon
#

just reflect bro

#

ur gonna die to his rogue in kidney even without the mage so does it rlly matter kekw

drifting jacinth
#

I like the RB rampage spam

mild thunder
#

it's moba-level class design

#

actually thats an insult to mobas

quick carbon
#

a lot of specs r like that tho

mild thunder
#

no spec is as egregious as fury is in terms of simplicity

#

at least melee spec

drifting jacinth
#

fury's the closest thing we got to devil may cry

#

god of war

quick carbon
#

I mean arms isn’t that much more difficult rotationally

mild thunder
#

and arms should be looked at as well

drifting jacinth
#

arms is wayyy more simple than fury imo

quick carbon
#

Kratos is def an arms warrior

#

Wym

drifting jacinth
#

not with the blades he aint

quick carbon
#

leviathan axe bro

drifting jacinth
#

blades of chaos = fury

quick carbon
#

it’s his main

drifting jacinth
#

"Every weapon has its purpose"

#

yo warrior spear spec

quick carbon
#

kratos specs arms to fight Thor

#

So

#

owned

drifting jacinth
#

you mean when he got his ass kicked?

quick carbon
#

nope

#

Even in the last fight he’s arms because the leviathan axe was made to counter Thor’s hammer

#

And once kratos got serious Thor backed off in the first fight anyway

drifting jacinth
#

thor literally killed him tho

quick carbon
#

kratos was suppressed

#

Once he tried he stole off on Thor

drifting jacinth
#

Thor did fight a giant fuckin snake before he got his ass kicked

mild thunder
#

leviathan axe is pretty much one-handed tho

#

so

drifting jacinth
#

that boss couldve been better tho tbh

quick carbon
#

Thor no diffed the snake bro

mild thunder
#

he's SMF arms

quick carbon
#

When he uses the axe his strongest attacks are 2h

#

He’s arms bro

mild thunder
#

also kratos pops enrage at the end of the first thor fight

#

so

#

he's fury

quick carbon
#

he just pops reck

#

Arms has reck

mild thunder
#

thor is scared of his big reck burst

drifting jacinth
#

Draupnir spear spec

quick carbon
#

and he also has spear, fury doesn’t use spear

mild thunder
#

also he uses his shield in that thor fight

#

so basically he's prot

quick carbon
#

Arms uses spear

mild thunder
#

kratos is troma confirmed

quick carbon
#

arms has shield block wym

mild thunder
#

fury has shield block too wym

quick carbon
#

and the mortal strike animation is using 1 hand anyway

drifting jacinth
#

kratos is technically pet class

quick carbon
#

kratos is definitely arms

drifting jacinth
#

boy

quick carbon
#

no kratos just plays kfc when he’s with his son

#

And plays warrior Druid with freya

mild thunder
#

kratos is objectively, undeniably, absolutely, ultimately a warrior

quick carbon
#

true

drifting jacinth
#

since he was a lad

mild thunder
#

did you guys see my kratos mog?

heavy mist
#

Hi what's the easiest gladiator comp for arms war atm?

torpid roost
#

git gud

#

easiest comp

flat dome
#

Kratos is a fury warrior that sits on W key

torpid roost
#

I wanna see how Turbo works nowadays

mild thunder
heavy mist
lucid walrus
#

batman

drifting jacinth
#

self/play is the best comp in the game rn

heavy mist
#

but what if u enjoy winning more

drifting jacinth
#

he asked for the best glad comp

#

"facts dont care about feelings" - some nerd

grand scaffold
#

sus

heavy mist
#

but yea any ideas? im lvlin lock atm

drifting jacinth
#

I wish I could drop 1k USD for some pixels

flat dome
long ridge
#

y would u roll arms and not ass

#

or dh or ele or mage or something

drifting jacinth
#

man I stg if they dont do recolors next season I'll never push for glad ever again

flat dome
#

Cause shitty casters on forums say warriors are breaking pvp

quick carbon
#

if ur not qing

#

warrior sp

#

ur not trying

#

q warrior sp

mild thunder
#

kitty cleave supremacy xeos

#

because i dont know any spriests

long ridge
#

i thought shadow was nerfed

mild thunder
#

sp still crazy stronkers

#

best caster for sure

quick carbon
#

the only thing that beats sp war is sp rogue kekw kekw

long ridge
#

what u play w/ ? any healer?

#

what do u do vs melee train? go enemy healer?

quick carbon
#

sp war can just beat cleaves

#

by hitting

#

the melee

flat dome
#

Spear and cleave em keks

quick carbon
#

u can literally win in the opener

#

with triple horrify m+ ability

#

with spear

#

unhinged

long ridge
#

oh i thought if they go ur sp and cleave u both it's bad

quick carbon
#

u just unironically outcleave them

#

as sp war

#

lmao

long ridge
#

oh baller

quick carbon
#

stun silence fear off cd

#

can kill anyone in the game

long ridge
#

on healer right

quick carbon
#

ya

grand scaffold
#

ret/surv

#

focus who

flat dome
#

I like planting banner and watching the rogue open on it

grand scaffold
#

answer fast

#

plz

quick carbon
#

ddepends

#

on comp

long ridge
#

either one

grand scaffold
#

ret/hunter man

long ridge
#

i think ret

grand scaffold
#

kk

quick carbon
#

just cleave them

#

ur warrior

long ridge
#

cuz hunter has bop and turtle

quick carbon
#

hit anything

#

that dies

long ridge
#

ret hopefully bubble and shatter

quick carbon
#

u legit can fuckin hit whoever vs that

long ridge
#

how do u time banner when he is opening on u

#

i like to just use bladestorm when he opens on me immediately

quick carbon
#

when hunter harpoons to uur healer

torpid roost
quick carbon
#

hit banner

torpid roost
#

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

long ridge
#

no he said he banners when rogue opens on him

#

i mean before roue opens on him

quick carbon
#

i try to hit banner when rogue is running at my yhealer

#

sometimes u get blind

long ridge
#

yeah that's good u can get kidney at least

#

i use it when we are low to hopefully stabilizie O_O

quick carbon
#

i mean not like bannering vs rog rlly matters rn

torpid roost
#

if you get kidney/disarm/blind, any one of them, cooldown well spent

quick carbon
#

if he hits deathmark even in a dr kidney u need to trinket anyway

flat dome
quick carbon
#

ive watched rogues run right by war banner

#

to hit kidney shot

flat dome
#

Insert "you activated my trap card"

quick carbon
#

and still kill in it KEKW

long ridge
#

idk i just wait for him to sap my healer then intervene and bladestorm lol

quick carbon
#

intervening ur healer aat the

#

tail end

long ridge
#

almost always get them out

quick carbon
#

of blind

#

is also pog

long ridge
#

to stop sap right

quick carbon
#

ya

#

can save trinkets thaat way

#

if ur healer sits blind

#

but usually they just trinket

flat dome
#

Feels good to intervene a kidney

quick carbon
#

insta

shut barn
#

too much thinking

#

just zug

#

u are not mage

quick carbon
#

u ever intervene a kidney then they swap to u and u die

long ridge
#

y would u die

#

???

quick carbon
#

cuz

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ur in

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kidney

flat dome
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They just focus me and healer doesn't heal me for 6 seconds sadge

quick carbon
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vs rogue

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?