pvp

[sharp meteor]

No.

[quaint snow]

but you can farm them as fury now for example

[grand scaffold]

do you keep the legend?

[sharp meteor]

Fixed.

[steep inlet]

Season title

[rapid shore]

no

[steep inlet]

Sadly

[grand scaffold]

season title?

wtf

[steep inlet]

Yeah hate it

[grand scaffold]

so basically

[quaint snow]

ah its fixed now uff

[steep inlet]

Legend should stay

[rapid shore]

crimson soloist u keep. its r1 isnt it?

[steep inlet]

y

[sharp meteor]

Okay, so, the way wins work is that you need wins WHILE AT that rank. There's also a 25 or 30 point buffer before you fall out.

[grand scaffold]

blizzard has made solo shuffle a HARDER version of 3's because you cant pick who you play with

and

there are 0 rewards from it

smf

[sharp meteor]

Lets say I'm 2500 and win 30 games, then drop to 2390. Wins still count.

[quaint snow]

Legend is like Gladiator - goes away

[sharp meteor]

I drop to 2330, I'm b ack at duelist

now I need 2400 for elite to get wins again

if that makes sense

[grand scaffold]

🤢

i thought you kept the title

so what title can you keep from solos huffle

shuffle*

[sharp meteor]

r1

Enjoy knife fighting mud for one of the 10 titles

[rapid shore]

every round counts for 100?

like if u go 6-0 u get 6/100

[grand scaffold]

10 titles?!?!?!?!

only?!?!?

if i qued into people who arent as good as mud

consistantly

maybe i could get it but its just like not happening lmao

[rapid shore]

r1 title

[grand scaffold]

dang

[sharp meteor]

get 2400/legend then sgo queue alts

[grand scaffold]

what % of people get that

[rapid shore]

crimson legend actually

[sharp meteor]

get elite set at 1800

[rapid shore]

0.1

[grand scaffold]

are you sure?

thats so low

i thought its like 0.5%

or something like that

[rapid shore]

wowhead says 0.1

"End Dragonflight PvP Season 1 in the top 0.1% of the Solo Shuffle ladder (requires 50 games won on your current faction in Dragonflight Season 1)."

[gentle horizon]

i want to get all mounts but sh*t like gladiator mounts dont count imo

[grand scaffold]

wow

how much is left of the season?

[quaint snow]

many went 2.4 elite then farmed 100 wins as other speccs, so legend is a bit harder now

[grand scaffold]

wait

you can get 2.4

then switch to fury at low cr and get legend?

😂

[quaint snow]

yep

[grand scaffold]

can you still do that?

[quaint snow]

was like that atleast

[thick reef]

lmao yea u can its act insane

[grand scaffold]

ima go do that shit rn

cya guys

[quaint snow]

troma said its fixed

so not sure

[grand scaffold]

oh

[grand scaffold]

is it fixed?

[rapid shore]

rekt

[thick reef]

nah they havent yet, so if u want legend just go fury and farm noobs at low cr and im p sure u get wins haha

[grand scaffold]

100% sure?

[quaint snow]

yeah try it out right now

[thick reef]

no im not sorry but i was just told u still could

yeah try it out

[quaint snow]

yeah my friend dit it

[thick reef]

see how it goes

[grand scaffold]

how do i check progress?

[thick reef]

isnt there a acheivement

[quaint snow]

achiev i guess

[thick reef]

yea

there is

[grand scaffold]

ok

[grand scaffold]

ill let you guys know

[thick reef]

alri gl!

[quaint snow]

q up as fury and gl

[grand scaffold]

fury with crit

😂

[thick reef]

LMAO

[steel trout]

Lemme know if it works

[grand scaffold]

actually doesnt feel bad ngl

feels like sl fury

still get to 44% haste

[stark agate]

Switching targets as fury and losing haste stacks feels bad, wish they’d buff that somehow

[sharp meteor]

play imp ww

never swap

just press whirlywind and cleave a bit

[grand scaffold]

imagine i get the legend title from literally playing 1500 cr fury

😂

[green wyvern]

theres no achievement for 2700 in shuffle

[grand scaffold]

i know

but

2700 xp still sounds fire

[long ridge]

Did they fix that yet

[grand scaffold]

idk

ima find out rn

[green wyvern]

I think they did

[long ridge]

Grats on 2.4 ndogo

[grand scaffold]

thanks!

🙂

[long ridge]

When do you use fireblood vs ass?

[grand scaffold]

when they deathmark you

but

you cant trinket fireblood

so you gotta sit the cc

hope for the best

and fireblood

otherwise

if they smoke bomb you

just trinket and leap to healer

[long ridge]

Cool

[grand scaffold]

swapped to dark iron?

[warm portal]

Yes its fixed

[grand scaffold]

-_-

are you sure?

[warm portal]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

did you test it?

[warm portal]

Yes lol

Tested it on Wednesday, a day-ish after reset

[grand scaffold]

🤢

[quaint osprey]

is there a unhinged weakaura?

[grand scaffold]

what would the weakaura do?

[quaint osprey]

tell when both ms are out so i can cancel bladestorm

[quick carbon]

why is prot executing for 100k

[spice hornet]

hhaha

my frost mage alt ffarming some conq runs into some 2k shuffle prot at like 1400 in 3s, hits me with a 60k shield slam, 105k execute, 80k shockwave

[quick carbon]

bodied

[muted surge]

Prot is back?

[grand scaffold]

they patched it

confirmed

[warm portal]

Didn't believe me smh

[slender lion]

Looks like a 1h u have there lol

[slim glacier]

Anyone have a good Fury build for RBGs or Solo Shuffle?

[warm portal]

Pins

[slim glacier]

Thanks, I did not realize they’d been updated to 10.0.5 recently

[elfin surge]

fury

[spice hornet]

furry is trash

[muted surge]

Especially in rbg

You really want sharpen

[slim glacier]

Okay, good to know !

[long ridge]

Awhile back but I don't use it enough I think

[warm portal]

Feels p good just crashing into their team in mid with zerker and doing 500k dps with a big roar odyns tho

[muted surge]

Ye but doesn’t secure kills

About rbg … is the scene alive or dead ?

[rough raven]

For Arms, is it better for Sophic Devotion, or Wafting?

[warm portal]

Sophic

[muted surge]

Only 1 gives you bigger ms

[rough raven]

Thank you! I've been using wafting, and while still doing some good damage, everyone else I see is using sophic, so figured I'd ask.

[steep cairn]

I’ve recently got into it, feels alive but not necessarily thriving. Fast queues though once you get into a group

[smoky anchor]

hard part is finding groups

[shut barn]

second patch of expansion sitting on lfg group for 30 mins

what a nice game to play

[sharp meteor]

lfg is kill

right now and for future it's shuffle

maybe 3s for glad push in couple months

but 2v2 and 3v3 pointless rn

[shut barn]

solo shuffle is misery

with the new healer system

[smoky anchor]

nah solo shuffle is based

way more balanced than 3s ironically. since you play with everyone

[elfin surge]

play better

[smoky anchor]

although some classes i suppose are less flexible with who they pair up with

i wonder if im supposed to just kill the brewmaster. this dude was top dps and had crazy cc the other day

in solo shuffle

[tribal nimbus]

What do you mean?

[lean burrow]

brewmaster

top dps

[rough raven]

I love RBG. I prefer the teamwork and working toward a goal, but that's just my opinion. I'd still love to get my 3s ratings higher, too.

[queen peak]

I hate RBG. I can't just zug when I want to zug.

[thorn sleet]

Anyone have any good resources for general play?

[queen peak]

Honestly, just look at the pins for builds and choose one. Read each talent selected to understood how they work/synergize, and then just watch streamers/youtube videos. Other than that its just practice practice practice

[thorn sleet]

I've been whacking away at the arms MS build and I more or less get it but I still feel like I'm not doing something right.

[queen peak]

Check out Bahjeera's and Tay's 10.0.5 build videos. Someone else can add another person to watch but those are the two that stick out in my head

[thorn sleet]

Sick thanks

[near delta]

I'm hoping it's like S3 SL where eventually more people started to play.

[final oasis]

I need someone to show me the brewmaster PvP talent build

actually asking for a friend

[vapid rover]

hi all, what is the tips to play fine vs elem as arms ?

i struggle so much to deal with them

i tried many things but i definely dont know wich counter play i had to do

[gentle horizon]

how do i win with 1 button?

[vapid rover]

what

[rotund thunder]

Short of being sure to kill the right totems

not mucch

They don't hard cast often

[rotund thunder]

So you can't interrupt them

[vapid rover]

wich totem i have to take care ?

the one giving crit ?

[rotund thunder]

There's a few. The one that puts the lightning circle ar4ound you and acts like your spear of bastion, you can one shot it

Tremor totem you want to make sure is down before you fear

You can break the stun totem before it stuns

The earthgrab totem can be broken

You can kill mana spring totem so their healer isn't getting mana back from it

It's really the only reason to have slam on your bar as a cheap instant attack if your overpower is down

But since ele doesn't hard cast it's hard to judge what to reflect, so you really just need to burn reflect as a 20% damage reduction vs magic

The biggest thing is like all shaman, they're squishy and have awful defensives

So they can be a good focus target

[left laurel]

Is there a certain setting you have to enable for the health of totems to appear in instances? I was watching bajheeras stream and they popped up and I can’t figure it out

[rotund thunder]

Minions

But you'll also get swarmed with warlock/dk minion health bars with that setting on

[thick reef]

also skyfury

u can kill that, prob with heroic t hrow

[gentle horizon]

im sick of pressing buttons

[vapid rover]

bajeera and some player use ThreadPlates

you can show totem nameplat/pet etc...

ally totem nameplat/pet etc...

but take care because it overlap with ElvUI for exemple

[trail hamlet]

dude wtfg is going on. my past 3 SS games, someone says at the start along the lines of "im trolling, get fukt melee zuggers"

this a new thing?

[dark sparrow]

Demo/spriest/bm shuffle holy fuck that was a tilter

[queen peak]

Saturday I played a SS match with a hunter and I killed him the first 2 rounds. 3rd round he tells me he's sick of the FOTM warrior rerollers and just afk'd when he was on my team, but played the last round on the other team and I killed him again.

[trail hamlet]

Yea it's random for me. Sometimes it's a healer that doesnt wanna play a zug lobby. Sometimes it's a satly DPS like that hunter. Either way, forced 3-3 to not lose rating, but that's nearly 2 hours of time intentionally wasted. Makes PvP really unfun

[queen peak]

Yeah I get it. I just reported him and went on my merry way. That's all we can do at this point

[warm portal]

I've seen it exclusively in the last couple weeks

I'm assuming those guys just left the match before. But now they afk or throw

[queen peak]

Yeah most likely

[azure willow]

idk i just tag with double disc priest in shuffle and its miserable im perma dead

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[high tapir]

is the D Stance animation gone, or is there a way to get it

[vapid rover]

that's what we love

[vapid rover]

okay so as i understand, break grounding, break replic totem, break fear totem, break crit totem, use reflect as much as i can to reduce dmg (exept if needed to reflect very specific things like mind game and cyclones for exemple), proc their wall then smash their face. im right ?

[hollow ore]

play perfectly and you might be fine, yes

[vapid rover]

thanks for the advice

kekw

[left laurel]

Oh dam, I have the addon already I’ll have to check it out more, thanks

[vapid rover]

in general => visibility => ennemy nameplate => totem

[left laurel]

🥵

[quiet furnace]

Yo guys, any warriors who's up for some TSG? 1950cr 2400xp unholy EU. 🫡 DM me if you're interested

[grand tendon]

Ele + frost mage hurst my soul

[vapid rover]

if you dont found it, i can share you my profile if you want,

[left laurel]

Damn what are you trying to score a date with me or something

[zenith marlin]

ait

I either strained my abs doing deadlifts 4 days ago

Or got veeery mild hernia

[vapid rover]

[zenith marlin]

Either way I was putting too much weight on my abs and probably flexed them the wrong way

I am about to put a flexible belt around my abs and do some deadlifts anyway

Am I gonna get a tear

pvp warr channel is practically also a fitness channel

so

[left laurel]

Happens to the best of us

[brazen rock]

Press around your lower abs and the area between your hips

if you feel a firm but squishy area that radiates a sharp pain, yeah its a hern.

[zenith marlin]

I was afraid of epigastric hernia

or umblical whatever

upper abs

Did some with a brace around my abs and less flexing them unnaturally and it was ok

3 more sets xd

Scary part is my health insurance is expired atm and gets renewed Feb 6

[brazen rock]

0 reason to push yourself to injury.

if you think its more then just sore abs, stop.

[zenith marlin]

Yeah any sign of pain im stopping 2 scaredy about injury

[hollow ore]

Taking a week off is fine as well, allows for more muscle fiber recovery

At least until you get health insurance back up

[fair tide]

I do sets in-between bg/arena queues

feels gud

[spice hornet]

Crusader is that you?

[coral axle]

this is the fucking way, at home gym life

keeps the brain going too

[long ridge]

The key to beating ele is do your best to put pressure but when they are actively bursting you, leap with your healer to a pillar and top off.

[mild thunder]

let your rage fuel you

remember, those casters will never hold a candle to us

[grave onyx]

So rolling solo que for fun, but it foced me fury instead of arms whats up with that?

[lucid walrus]

were you specced into arms or fury at the time?

[grave onyx]

specced into arms when i qued

[lucid walrus]

huh. weird

[grave onyx]

when i tried to change it said "not the right spec for your roll"

[zenith marlin]

ngl critting 250k while listening to taylor swift is a diff pvp experience

[cinder thorn]

Hi people I just wanted to let you know that I missed the gigachad brotherhood of this discord but I been too busy with life and work qq

[zenith marlin]

Starting march ill act have to go to office

so feel ya

well will feel ya

[cinder thorn]

I still can't get higher than 130

But I don't have sophic or set pieces

[zenith marlin]

will feel ya few days a week

[cinder thorn]

So I'll have to be happy with 130k for now

[zenith marlin]

that was 2x overpower, sharpen, trinket proc, trinket active, blood fury, avatar, warbreaker, spear, and 2x executioneers precision

Literally stars aligned

[cinder thorn]

Oh don't have blood fury either

[zenith marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-orc-angry-gif-12083808

[cinder thorn]

I'll have to settle for my modest crits

LOL

[zenith marlin]

bloodfury is like having a 2nd active trinket ngl

[cinder thorn]

Ye

[zenith marlin]

Ohh I coulda probably hit more if I had weapon enchant

sophic devotion

[cinder thorn]

I was happy today I owned a hunter+heal 3 times in arena today

[zenith marlin]

vs dummy btw

a real player would have a defensive :S

lmao

I fkn hate playing vs hunters

legit control you all game

[cinder thorn]

The survival hunter massive pain in ass

[zenith marlin]

why do they get escape the slow card

[cinder thorn]

Yeah I beat 3 of them so was celebrating

[zenith marlin]

somehow we are more deadly with 20% uptime

[cinder thorn]

Dude they FD my spear and fuck off out of it

[zenith marlin]

ngl if they stood still I'd carve them into shawarma

https://tenor.com/view/saddam-hussein-adobada-meat-cutters-smile-shawarma-gif-16991920

[cinder thorn]

Yes exactly he does same damage as me from ranged with his melee weapon

[zenith marlin]

arms vs anything that stands still

[cinder thorn]

Dude I'm iraqi and love Saddam

[zenith marlin]

Im turkish

[cinder thorn]

That's a brilliant gif

[zenith marlin]

And i didnt know who that was

[cinder thorn]

Al sallamu alaikum neighbour

[zenith marlin]

xD

Alaikum salam

[cinder thorn]

Gotta go sleep.now goodnight bro

[zenith marlin]

gn

[dark sparrow]

Iirc they can’t fd spear but they can bug it with disengage

[cinder thorn]

Oh maybe he did that I saw him run off twice from my spear

[cinder thorn]

What's ur rating BTW bro

[zenith marlin]

wait in pvp?

1.8k this season

I quit pvp after 2 weeks and focused full m+

hit 2.4k+ previously in legion bfa and sl tho

well not verry +

basically 2.4k xd

with IP back I may try some more

Turns out prot warrs can crit over 200k in pve xD

[vapid radish]

Which Arms builds would you use in Pvp in regards to RBGs vs Solo shuffle, from what is pinned?

[lucid walrus]

depends what you want and/or need to play

honestly some wacky aoe tclap bleed build would probably be okay for teamfights

[cinder thorn]

I don't pve at all

My only pve is when a mob aggro me while I'm pounding some horde in world pvp

[zenith marlin]

lol

I think RBG is very similiar

Because Arms role would be delivering the Kill Blow on the target call

E.g. DK would grip in their healer and u'd ST slap

while likely Boomies, Afflocks etc focus on cleave

[marsh wharf]

2s is actual degen

everyone kites for 20 mintues a game

[left laurel]

Got 1800 PVP rating and 2400 io rating this week

we are absolutely scaling

[sharp meteor]

very nice

i get into shuffle on an alt and my mistweaver had like a 40% winrate

but a r1 title and he's 2.7k on havoc this season

poor fellow down there healing people without keyboards

[vapid radish]

Teamfight/TC

[lucid walrus]

i don't rbg but i imagine you could drop signet for both spear and roar if you wanted heaps of pad and whatnot

[old loom]

hey quick question I see most top warriors using 2pc tier (PVE gear). Is that better than epic pvp gear

[ancient stirrup]

was about to ask same question is 2pc tier worth?

[muted surge]

Nah you don’t care about pad

But I personally would take spear over roar

[uneven turret]

is it normal that my wrecking throw doesn't break Life Cocoon?

[tardy flame]

Yes

[uneven turret]

so it doesn't work or?

[tardy flame]

It does a LOT of damage, but it doesn't just immediately break it

With cooldowns up and the PvP talent that increases its bonus damage, it can break it outright

But a regular ol' throw will not

[uneven turret]

ic

any verdict on arms vs fury right now?

[tardy flame]

Arms owns

[sharp meteor]

Arms is good. Fury is better than it was before the patch but I'm not sure how it stacks up vs Arms.

[long ridge]

fury can kill grandma playing wow at 1.5k rating

but not full grown boy @ 2.2 shuffle

[thick reef]

but what about Prot?

[steep inlet]

Was very strong, nerfed 6 times

and big nerfs

it is what it is

[long ridge]

EASY

[marsh wharf]

feel like fury is still the play in 2s

[sage raptor]

Bring back glad stance prot plz

[long ridge]

arms is not bad in 2s

[marsh wharf]

arms is detrimental to the health for 2s getting kited for 20 minutes a game

[long ridge]

i beat up ass rogues in 2s 😄

if someone is kiting you, switch

[marsh wharf]

or they both kite you

[compact token]

What's fury stat prio?

[long ridge]

haste and vers

PvP Fury: Haste>=Vers>Mastery>Crit

[compact token]

Fury still want to run 2/4pc or just best stats?

[thick reef]

You get 4pc from Catalyst & Welfare Box

[long ridge]

if you have it i guess use it but it's not like arms where u really want it

[compact token]

right I'm asking you still want to run it or just Haste/Vers gear seeing as the Tier Chest is Crit

[long ridge]

idk if anyone knows, it's gonna be a small difference

[thick reef]

Tier > other shit in slots

Boots & Helm being the exception (you want crafted there)

[trail hamlet]

lol just watched a ret/dh, run across the map for 8 seconds, stun my druid, and kill him in 3 GCDs cause he didnt trinket stun, didnt skin, didnt press any buttons. Asked why he didnt just tranq all their CD's. He said tranq doesn't heal enough 😦

[long ridge]

tranq makes you immune to damage...

i think he dun goofed

[trail hamlet]

Yea told him that it stops all direct damage. but vs sins you'll just die through it. He told me i'm toxic and reported me 😦

swear words dont have meaning anymore

[long ridge]

Ass rog can kill through tranq? :0

[summer tiger]

yes

deathmark shiv

u can't outheal that with tranq lol

[long ridge]

fucking OP ass rogs

[bright stream]

yo team, anything my UI is missing/could improve?

[wary axle]

what pieces are u guys using for 2pc

[sharp meteor]

Not helmet.

[thick reef]

Not Helmet, not Boots

[mild thunder]

if you only want 2set, take anything but head and gloves

but most people are going for 4set, so take everything but head

[wary axle]

thanks

[noble stream]

since it's beet set at 16s how high does slaughterhouse usually stack?

[indigo barn]

Fully

[sharp meteor]

Fully for a bit if you're pooling prior. Think of it kind of like Unholy wounds.

[indigo barn]

You will get about 8 seconds of full stacks

[worn yoke]

For fury pvp do you guys like badge or insignia?

[tardy flame]

I like badge

It lines up with reduced CD Roar, which you can line up with Avatar from Odyn's Fury, which you can use right after a Recklessness proc on Rampage

[sharp meteor]

Doesn't align with cds.

Play insignia.

Also conq one is crit.

[mild thunder]

dude

how fucking hard is it

to not stick a melee spec into an all-caster shuffle lobby

or a caster in an all-melee lobby

there's a shortage of healers, not dps

[undone drift]

Who knows

It's silly as anything

[mild thunder]

so goddamn tilting

and the retard healers that are like "bro just play safe"

[severe basin]

bro i had this poor affliction warlock in one of those 1700 prot pally noob bracket games and he just got clapped

i scored a win with him somehow but fark dude he lost rating and there was just nothing at all he could do

does everyone here stay in D stance or not anymore since ignore pain

[bright stream]

if ur target you probably need to be in dstance until its time to go swifty

then post swifty, back to dstance

an easy way to remember is the d = disappointment, the only time your mum isn't disappointed in you is when you're bladestorming all over a rshaman

[spice hornet]

i swear warrior suffers the most out of all melee in a lobby of all casters

so aids

unplayable

[bright stream]

ret has a really bad time into casters, probably worse than arms

[waxen oasis]

Is there nothing u can do against casters?

I get chewed up too. Thought it was just me

Dps evokers wreck me

[mild thunder]

legit... ive tanked ~300 rating in the last few days because all im getting is caster lobbies

its unplayable, idk what the strat is supposed to be

[lucid walrus]

it’s funny too bc you’ll pretty much always be 3rd best healing

doesn’t matter

[mild thunder]

double-caster is okay in actual 3s as a melee cleave because you can coordinate cc and target-selecting and shit and make up for occasional loss of downtime

but in shuffle its aids as fuck

the only vaguely reliable strat is blow them up in the opener

[lucid walrus]

i’d like to play more hybrid comps but a lot of them are just weird rn

ergo most casters have better partners

[mild thunder]

kitty cleave is feeling pretty good tbh, only thing we're struggling into is assa/sp and rmp

we blow other melee cleaves out of the water, and caster comps we just go full blast and never run

[lucid walrus]

kinda sucks that RM is good again

[mild thunder]

agreed

[lucid walrus]

feral damage is still bonkers i assume

[mild thunder]

its just never a satisfying comp to lose to

[mild thunder]

completely

[lucid walrus]

incredible

[mild thunder]

tbf my feral is a multi-glad and probs the best player i know

[lucid walrus]

why play another energy class

[mild thunder]

other ferals are never even close

[lucid walrus]

yeah feral isn’t a very common spec ngl

[mild thunder]

requires >10 iq

[lucid walrus]

just means the good ones really shine

[mild thunder]

never gonna be popular

a lot of ferals have rerolled assa too

[lucid walrus]

now that’s interesting

i have to wonder how something like jungle is rn

[mild thunder]

probably shit with how feral plays now

[lucid walrus]

don’t have a conclusive frame of reference for how good hunter actually is

[mild thunder]

it suits melee cleaves way better than jungle tunneling

[lucid walrus]

yeah fair

[mild thunder]

im pretty sure bicmex is playing mostly thug

or sv/sp

[lucid walrus]

thug? sheesh

didn’t think we’d see it pop up

[mild thunder]

why play anything else if you're a hunter tho

assa is beyond busted, and if it gets nerfed you just grab an outlaw instead

i kinda wanna try KFC because that was always one of the more fun warrior comps

[lucid walrus]

i’ve always enjoyed thunder

shaman utility is so neat

[mild thunder]

anything is more fun than melee cleaves

any double caster/double melee cleave is pure brainrot and is never fun

[lucid walrus]

pretty much

top-end RM mirrors are and were so funny to watch

[pure hornet]

You think mage is more fun than warrior?

[mild thunder]

pure cancer

[mild thunder]

no

[severe basin]

outlaw is complete dog shit

especially since the patch nerfs

[mild thunder]

what? lmao

it was never nerfed, and it was never shit

[severe basin]

it was nerfed buddy

[mild thunder]

show me

[severe basin]

5% less HP and pistol shot combo point generation

[mild thunder]

show me the patch notes

[severe basin]

its not a pvp spec

look at the 10.0.5 notes

check any arena rankings

[mild thunder]

its not a pvp spec 😐

[severe basin]

theres a reason its not there

[mild thunder]

bruh

the reason is assa is busted

and no one wants to play outlaw

[severe basin]

no bro

[mild thunder]

not that outlaw is weak

[severe basin]

you have no idea aye

[mild thunder]

[severe basin]

i literally main rogue i watch rogue streamers all day

they all hate outlaw rn because its bad

nahj is the only one playing it

go on check pvp rn

speaks for itself

its all assa and sub if assa gets nerfed enough to be bad everyones going to play sub

[mild thunder]

dude if you think outlaw is genuinely bad, idk what to say

[severe basin]

not fkn outlaw kek

[mild thunder]

its definitely not, esp once you have 4set

their burst is very good

[severe basin]

bro your legit fried aye

their burst is so weak

[mild thunder]

but fact is - assa is just significantly better

[severe basin]

they have consistent damage

[mild thunder]

even sub has its niche now

there's no real need to play outlaw until assa is weak

[severe basin]

they arent gonna play outlaw bro

[muted surge]

Why would you play outlaw?

Same reason everyone plays arms atm

[severe basin]

its literally low B tier at best

and thats because it has kidney shot

[mild thunder]

low B tier

[severe basin]

are you trolling ?

me

rn

or being serious

[mild thunder]

im not the one trolling here

but im pre sure you are

[severe basin]

certified cooked

[mild thunder]

why would someone play outlaw?

it only has good sustained dam, decent burst, short CD evasion, short CD blind, all the cc the other specs have, more mobility than it had in SL...

B tier spec fr fr

LOW B****

[severe basin]

it doesnt have decent burst

you fish for skull and crossbones rolls from roll the bones and try fish for cringe procs

[mild thunder]

if you have 4pc

yes it does

[severe basin]

if you dont roll skull and crossbones its a gg

good luck getting any ambush procs with shitty rolls

its a pve spec

people will swap to the subs rupture/secret tech build

[pure hornet]

You go sks ?

[severe basin]

has good burst and high rot damage from big finality ruptures

[pure hornet]

Usually?

[severe basin]

not fucking outlaw roll the bones kekW this is so fried

[mild thunder]

no

[severe basin]

theres 10 outlaw rogues above 2.4k in SS rn

theres over 40 sub rogues over 2.4k

numbers speak for themselves

[mild thunder]

no those numbers really dont speak for themselves

outlaw is a traditionally low popularity spec
people dont play outlaw because assa is outright better

none of that means outlaw is weak

[severe basin]

in general

outlaw

is actually the most played rogue spec

[mild thunder]

in pvp?

[severe basin]

i said

in general

outlaw

is actually the most played rogue spec

[mild thunder]

who the fuck cares about in general

are we talking about in general?

[severe basin]

its low popularity because its not that good

[mild thunder]

no, its not

[severe basin]

it was good when it was tanky

but they nerfed that with the recent patch

[mild thunder]

holy fuck this is giving me cancer

[severe basin]

sub has better sustain, better burst and its way more tanky

nah honestly just trying to listen to a zug zug tell me outlaws gonna be the next spec

is so fried to hear

you have never played a rogue its just obvious

[mild thunder]

yep, what would i know

you watched rogue streamers

argument won right there

we all know if pika complains about a spec being op/weak he's objectively right 🤓

[severe basin]

yes and i also play one every day

and know how all the specs work

[mild thunder]

do you play outlaw every day?

[severe basin]

unlike you who thinks fishing for skull and crossbones rolls is viable in high rated arenas

which is actually so fried

[mild thunder]

do you play outlaw every day?

[severe basin]

i play sub every day because im not brain damaged

[mild thunder]

ok so playing rogue every day doesnt actually mean anything because you dont play outlaw

and we're talking about outlaw

[severe basin]

ive played heaps of outlaw

unlike u

[mild thunder]

have you played it much in pvp

[severe basin]

who doesnt even have a lvl 1 rogue

[mild thunder]

this season

[severe basin]

yes and its shit

sin and sub both heavily outperform it

[mild thunder]

bro i have a lvl 60 rogue that i played partly through SL

boring aff spec ngl

[severe basin]

hence why nahj is literlly the only one doing it

but hes much better at playing rogue than most people

pshero is playing it in SS because he wants r1's in every spec

and he does like 15k dps

he gets out dps'd by disc priests

and hes a r1 rogue player

unless he gets lucky and rolls skull and crossbones then he gets good procs

[mild thunder]

idk how many times i have to explain the same point - outlaw is a dead spec because assa is insanely busted, not because outlaw is weak
doing ~15k dps in a shuffle isnt that bad if you have the cc and toolkit of a rogue
disc priest dps is busted and not really a great comparison
there are multiple ways to proc extra bonuses from RtB
i dont really care about what r1s do/play because that's not indicative of the wider playerbase

[severe basin]

not indicative of the wider playerbase

but you refuse to admit that sub is already getting much more play in all types of arena anyway

you're just an annoying stubborn cnt bro tbh lmfaoi

you sit in this discord all day arguing over bull shit

anyway

catch ya

[silk flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-gif-4402418

[fiery oxide]

that was a wild ride

[mild thunder]

dude i literally

fucking

said

that sub had found its niche

please learn how to fucking read before joining a text-based server

[nimble jasper]

trimaz plays it

also @mild thunder bicmex has always played thug

specifically sub thug, rat says sub variant is just better

[mild thunder]

ah okay fair enough, i've only caught his streams like once or twice

[limber relic]

Assa is stupidly op rn

Like litteraly ever game 2s/3s theres an assa rogue

[nimble jasper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMazrigos/status/1545900797245915136?cxt=HHwWgICw3bSlkvQqAAAA

RAT-MAZRIGOS (@RMazrigos)

https://t.co/vwEYa5M5C9

Twitter · Jul 9, 2022, 10:40 PM

[pseudo star]

Is fury at 10.0.5 better than 10.0.0?

[nimble jasper]

no

[mild thunder]

well only 1 of the top warrior streamers plays fury, so it must be low B tier

[nimble jasper]

realistically its assa>sub>outlaw

but most sub players are god awful and afk besides duel oneshots

xd

[severe basin]

dont tell him that

this dick head doesnt understand logic

[mild thunder]

even if that's true tho, it doesnt mean outlaw is bad

[severe basin]

he just likes to argue

[nimble jasper]

outlaw is still a tier

its just assa is

[mild thunder]

holy fuck, how do you say i dont understand logic

[nimble jasper]

s++

[mild thunder]

and then give a genuinely illogical take

[severe basin]

you're a cooked cnt bro

get off the gatorade sax

and touch some grass

do you ever turn off discord

[nimble jasper]

nessper made a great point about assa

[stable siren]

Hello gigachad warriors, Question, when using tier bonus in pvp, do i use my pve items? or do i use the catalyst 2 turn pvp items into pvp, sorry if this question ahs been asked be4, thank you in advance

[nimble jasper]

you literally dont have to play the game

in between kidneys

[mild thunder]

no, i use it in my dreams

[nimble jasper]

but people choose to take extra dam

for some reason

[severe basin]

doesnt even surprise me

[mild thunder]

i dream that all the retards in the server get purged

[nimble jasper]

trimaz actual best outlaw player rn

[severe basin]

then where would you go?

you might have to get a job

sadge

[nimble jasper]

na is a joke in terms of rogues tho

[severe basin]

big true

all the good rogues are in europe

[mild thunder]

job? whats that?

[stable siren]

Ours is busy farming 1700 for subs

[mild thunder]

i dont get paid to be on discord?

[nimble jasper]

i mean at this point

drake has passed pika

on rogue

still top kek

realistically outlaw is fine its just sin is giga overtuned

[mild thunder]

dude stop, he understands logic

please bro just stop

[nimble jasper]

sin is a giant meme though

played a few games half not paying attention

no one lives to 2mins

[muted surge]

It’s so difficult to tell if people here are trolling or not

[mild thunder]

troll? me?????

[sharp meteor]

Hmm?

[mild thunder]

everything i say is 100% serious, zero sarcasm, no jokes ever

[fiery oxide]

only logic in this channel

[mild thunder]

anyone that starts using the word "logic" is almost guaranteed to be retarded regardless

especially when they say they're logical, then immediately proceed to say something illogical

[fiery oxide]

gonna need you to explain your logic here XD

[muted surge]

I mean, notfatdan is prob a troll

Last time he also said some stupid shit

[mild thunder]

because people that say stuff like that generally dont understand what logic is

[muted surge]

Filthy rogues

[nimble jasper]

@mild thunder I said this multiple times in SL

the average outlaw player

did 0 dam

[drifting jacinth]

some sperg shit goin on here

[nimble jasper]

swear to god anytime i played a mirror i was 2-3x the other guy's output

so yeh to the average bad player since the spec isnt as tanky anymore it sucks

[undone pumice]

im logical

common galachad w

[nimble jasper]

when they crutched on being overly tanky

[drifting jacinth]

logically Im the greatest of all time

[severe basin]

i can guarantee i do

[mild thunder]

yep, never had the best damage

[severe basin]

you on the other hand seem like someone who lives in their dads shed in QLD

[mild thunder]

was always a mid dmg spec, but the cc and elusiveness was bonkers

[severe basin]

sitting in discord

[nimble jasper]

i mean the damage in SL was literally fine

[severe basin]

me

i jump out of planes

noob

[nimble jasper]

but you had soyjaks playing shadowdust in 2s

[severe basin]

check and mate

[drifting jacinth]

dan madge

[nimble jasper]

instead of wicker's

[mild thunder]

my guy, you said you understand logic, then literally said that assa>sub>outlaw means outlaw is bad

that's an actually irrational conclusion

[severe basin]

no

that isnt what i said

i said

people arent going to go from asssa to outlaw

like you tried to convince me

i said

if assa gets nefed

people will play sub

which they will

[drifting jacinth]

who?

[severe basin]

you were convinced outlaw was going to be the next rogue spec

[nimble jasper]

you go sub cuz average rogue player cant queue anything but

rmp

[severe basin]

if assa got significant nerfs

and i said thats not correct

[mild thunder]

the reason people wont necessarily go from sin to sub is because sin and sub dont have heaps of crossover in playstyle

[severe basin]

if assa got significant nerfs

people would play sub

[mild thunder]

assa and outlaw both play like toe-to-toe melee dps now

as opposed to ninja sub

[nimble jasper]

uhh

you can w key people

as sub atm

[severe basin]

bro your cooked

as hell

and you keep trying to win a dead war

[nimble jasper]

sub has

way too much cc

[severe basin]

hes literally retarded

[drifting jacinth]

mf waging war lmfao

[severe basin]

calling other people retards

[nimble jasper]

but the average 24 month pikaboo sub thinks sub is a high iq spec

in 2023

[severe basin]

its like 5 buttons

[stable siren]

Yeah praying blizzardo puts a few rogue ccs on the same dr

[nimble jasper]

no its primarily sub is an issue

cuz more access to cheapshot

also duel

[severe basin]

yeah

double dance

is just free cheapshots

and double vanish

[muted surge]

@severe basin you gotta chill man

[severe basin]

that shields for 30% of hp

[nimble jasper]

wait i got healer trinket for going dps

maybe

i can go healer

[severe basin]

nah i just dont like people who call others retards

[nimble jasper]

on same drs

[severe basin]

when they're clearly wrong

[nimble jasper]

just maybe

[drifting jacinth]

keyboard warrior

[mild thunder]

no dude, he understands logic

chill

[nimble jasper]

cloaked in shadows is mid

btw

[muted surge]

Idk you are the one insulting him

[drifting jacinth]

cold logic like Rhonin said

[severe basin]

yeah after copping insults and sarcasm from him

when he was clearly wrong

and just wanted to argue

[muted surge]

But outlaw is the best rogue spec atm?

[mild thunder]

lmao i havent called you a retard this conversation yet

[severe basin]

yes you have

[mild thunder]

you've called me a retard like 4 times

[severe basin]

scroll up

[mild thunder]

when

[severe basin]

scroll up

[limber relic]

The irony.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[drifting jacinth]

I thought u jump out of planes why u care so much

[mild thunder]

who?

[severe basin]

this was clearly aimed at me

[limber relic]

Imagine the dude calling othee ppl retarded being called one aswell and cri

[mild thunder]

umm, i didnt directly call you a retard 🤓

[limber relic]

Buhu

[drifting jacinth]

I dont think this dude jumps out of planes

[severe basin]

lmfao legit bro

touch some grass

im actually serious

[limber relic]

😂😂😂

[severe basin]

you need to go outside

[mild thunder]

my guy, its so bad that seifcham has to back you up

rip

[limber relic]

Oh the tables have turned Gala

[severe basin]

seriously

gala

go outside

its summer

get some vitamin D

[drifting jacinth]

you said touch grass 2 times

[severe basin]

and just get off discord

[mild thunder]

also the irony of any wow player telling someone else to touch grass

is painful

[limber relic]

Thank god this kid gets what he deserves

[mild thunder]

we're all inside on discord and playing an mmo

[limber relic]

Heres some tissues Gala

[severe basin]

yeah but unlike you

i havent been here all day

i went outside until the afternoon like a normal person

[drifting jacinth]

grats

[severe basin]

thanks

[drifting jacinth]

ur profile pic's a stock photo tho

[severe basin]

its not tho

[drifting jacinth]

nah prolly is

[severe basin]

dont really care if you think its stock or not lmfao

[drifting jacinth]

video or it never happened

[severe basin]

ive got the video

and hundreds of other photos

[drifting jacinth]

send the video

[severe basin]

why

to prove myself to some guy with a stock pic of some asian guy

[drifting jacinth]

cuz ur a lying groundwalker

[severe basin]

with a smashed pumpkin face

[mild thunder]

my pfp is also real

i am actually boe jiden

[severe basin]

i can believe that

[drifting jacinth]

groundwalker

[severe basin]

joe biden is a senile old fart

suits

[mild thunder]

im gonna hold back because i dont wanna get political

[warped warren]

its winter

[severe basin]

me and gala are australian

so no

its actually summer

[warped warren]

still winter

[mild thunder]

please dont put us in the same boat

[severe basin]

you live in some weird upside down world

[warped warren]

[mild thunder]

you're probably some 2 headed fucking tasmanian

or worse yet, from WA

[fiery oxide]

rofl

[severe basin]

incorrect

northern beaches sydney

[drifting jacinth]

lmfao

[mild thunder]

oh fuck, northern beaches

[severe basin]

you probably life in some slum like redfern

[mild thunder]

it all makes sense now

some geordie shore fucking ponce

[severe basin]

yep

does that upset u

[mild thunder]

holy fuck, the puzzle pieces all just fell into place

[copper hare]

I don't believe you guys are from Australia, havent read the word mate yet

Fakenews

[severe basin]

does other people having educations and money upset u gala

[limber relic]

Imagine trashtalking about where u live 😂

[mild thunder]

gday mate, thats not a knife

[severe basin]

i called him a dick head already

thats heaps australian

[drifting jacinth]

idk if he's an aussie

im gettin london vibes

[limber relic]

😂😂

[mild thunder]

georsie shore is basically london poshness mixed with ratty australian bogan retardation

however tf you spell it

[stable siren]

Me when i hit a rogue in the face with op, take that good thing i go walking outside 2 power up my slappers

[limber relic]

Sounds like urself

[drifting jacinth]

mf prolly says bruv

[severe basin]

brus*

[mild thunder]

my guy, you're here tryna claim Ws from day-old beef, chill... everyone clowned on you for the "post cr" comment, just move on

[severe basin]

bro honestly

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂😂

[severe basin]

u just like to argue tho

[drifting jacinth]

he's grindin discord wins bruv

[severe basin]

did ur parents not love u or smth

[stable siren]

Only a true outside walker can grind Ws like me fr fr

[mild thunder]

yes, i do like to argue

[severe basin]

maybe ur mum refused to hug so now your bitter and just start arguments in discord and hate on women in reddit threads

[limber relic]

I take every chance to join ppl trashtalking u😂😂😂

[severe basin]

this guy rly hates u

[limber relic]

I dont have anyone.

[drifting jacinth]

ngl these two are basically Alliance servers in a nutshell

which is why I play on Sargeras

[mild thunder]

believable

[stable siren]

Be pvp discord

I go outside

xde

[muted surge]

Are you projecting? All you do is insulting his family, his life, and you don’t know shit about it?

[drifting jacinth]

I mean ya gotta get food eventually

[stable siren]

fuck that food makes u poop

[muted surge]

Actually pathetic

[stable siren]

live off the condensation from neighbors water pipe

[drifting jacinth]

nah I think the sperging is amusing tbh

[severe basin]

not really

[limber relic]

Why is that not? 😂

[severe basin]

just giving it back to someone whos constantly dishing it out

[muted surge]

Is that what you tell yourself

[drifting jacinth]

he's winner

farmin digital W's

[severe basin]

and he didnt cry about it

[mild thunder]

im saying it is believable... that you have no one

[severe basin]

because he knows he dishes it out

[muted surge]

Idk I read a lot of the chat and I haven’t read much shit from gala

[severe basin]

you on the other hand are simping for him

[limber relic]

I wont ask for ur cr i promise

Pls

I cri

[severe basin]

have a cry mate honestly

nobody was talking to you

[drifting jacinth]

guy's just runnin an anti-bullying campaign

[severe basin]

little girl in the chat

go to bed

[muted surge]

You sound like dekel

[severe basin]

go to bed boy

[copper hare]

Stop writing in chat unless you're high rated in solo shuffle (1.3k)

[severe basin]

you sound overtired

[drifting jacinth]

overtired

lmfao

[limber relic]

OMG DONT ASK FOR CR. THATS RUDE

😂

May get ppl offended

[severe basin]

i got rival in shadowlands s2 does that count

[drifting jacinth]

shouldve gotten glad u scrub

[limber relic]

Dont talk cr. Gala may cry

[severe basin]

i didnt

i got rival

[drifting jacinth]

guess I wasnt bein literal enough

[limber relic]

Sensetive subject

He can cri

@mild thunder

[mild thunder]

im 1.2k, my bad

[mild thunder]

sadly accurate

[drifting jacinth]

these mf's prolly played classic first

most classic players are on the spectrum

[stable siren]

i think thats a wow thing in general

call me a internet provider cause i fit the bill

[drifting jacinth]

same with bein bald

baldtistic

[stable siren]

thank god

no more long hair for me!

not a fan of it hurry up male pattern baldness

take me!

[drifting jacinth]

Bro if youre bald you can never do a mohawk

not worth it

[stable siren]

Yeah but hair is yucky it gets everywhere

my significant other likes it and im sure all the people in solo shuffle likes it 2 as they fuck me

[sour folio]

Random PVP question, Anyone know or use a good WA package for PVP? not just individual ones (unless you highly recommend)

[drifting jacinth]

ok but after a week of shaving you'll look like monk

[stable siren]

bless

no more hot yucky head

nice and cool

[drifting jacinth]

just watch Bajheera bro

[stable siren]

speaking of nice and cool may i ask my earlier question again ;3

[drifting jacinth]

idk wait for everyones approval

[sour folio]

yeah I do, just not 100% what wa package it is reason im asking here:)

[stable siren]

Ok wait i think i figured it out

so we do just use our pve 4 set

in pvp

i think

wait no no im more confused

[muted surge]

The ones from mes and the healer cc one

[muted surge]

Yes

But not if you lose too much

[limber relic]

WA has 2 be one of the easiests addon to use

If u need any WA just go to new>icons and then u can pick already made auras

If its for abilities or debuffs

New aura>premade

[stable siren]

tyvm!

most of my tier is 415 or higher so not 2 much lost!

[slender lion]

9 ilvl of stats on several.big pieces if u have conquest gear can amount too alot lost

Fury tier isn't that big. Arms 2pc is. I have 2 421 pieces equipped. Rest is pvp gear

[stable siren]

Gotcha! thank you so just 2 piece

perfect i have 424 shoulders and 421 gloves

thank you for all the guidence

[sage raptor]

Freedom doesn't work with spear

Fun fact

Unless it's a pvp talent that does something

[little matrix]

u guys think disc will get nerfed? seems really fun rn

[muted surge]

„Fun“

[little matrix]

yeah like, actually viable

before the buff it was meh at best

now its competitive haha

[severe basin]

i just replied in the dk discord

but

they might want it to head in the direction of lots of CDs and decent dmg type spec

[little matrix]

oh my bad, yeah i use these two both

want different opinions

[severe basin]

but it could just be overtuned who knows

[little matrix]

alrighty

[severe basin]

i feel like if they want healers to dps they need to buff holy paladins damage as well

[cinder thorn]

What happened to warrior discord

Why we talking about paladin and dk and priests

Talk about iron and steel and clash of weapons you pussies

We don't do magic bullshit here

[muted surge]

Disc was always the more damage oriented spec tho

[severe basin]

yeah true

so is holy pala tho

[muted surge]

But their dmg was so undertuned

Holy pally didn’t heal with damage tho