When you use 3 cooldowns and get countered by 1 of your opponent's, that's how you start consistently losing matches.
#pvp
maiden crag
This shows in mid-tier SS play, when player skill and CD timing overtakes the "everyone pops all CDs in the first 30 seconds" mentality that dominates low MMR brackets.
left laurel
I currently have CS bound with my Badge trinket and Overpower bound with Sharpen Blade, is that fine or is that too many CDs
long ridge
one day guys
trail hamlet
how with 30min Qs
trail hamlet
I'm at 85mins for 2 sets of SS rounds
trail hamlet
+100 max MMR lol
trail hamlet
did Q times go down the higher you got?
left laurel
long ridge
no not rly
spiral flicker
4 price tier set looks like the play now for arms ?
Piece *
Crit build similar to s1 venthyr with executioner talent we have now
long ridge
yeah 4pc is good 2pc is mandatory
hidden zodiac
is the move with fury gear to be haste/mast
hidden zodiac
got it ty
trail hamlet
wtf the game just cancelled my Q after 35mins.
man pvp is fun, but like holy fuck Q times are just ruining it. Could play an entire game of dota before a Q pops
quasi zephyr
Yeah
full quiver
whoever has frostmage on their team wins cause it's all melee otherwise LOL
should be opposite lol
just train the fmage
stark eagle
has fury gone down the dumpster? I feel like I'm doing nowhere near as well as I previously was
could be the 90% 200ms lobbies but
something feels off
sharp meteor
It just got buffed.
stark eagle
Yeah I know, thats why is feels weird as heck
severe basin
is every class just getting slapped by casters now?
actually fried
just literal 1 shots across the board from wizards
rotund thunder
God the MS spec just PUMPS in arena
untold adder
undone pumice
99% sure if you just improve on fundamentals by spamming games it will b enough
like not randomly disarming, saw a fuckton of that around 1700
left laurel
Is binding CS to Badge trinket and Overpower to SB too many CDs at once?
undone pumice
sb?
left laurel
Sharpen Blade
rotund thunder
I macro SB to MS
left laurel
What should DPS be looking like?
rotund thunder
Also I don't take SB to every fight
I only use it vs teams I know I can fuck the healer with it like vs shaman
left laurel
What do you take instead?
lucid walrus
Sharpen Blade
it’s genuinely just worth figuring out how and when to sharpen
rotund thunder
Yup, alt modifier on MS macro
rotund thunder
Don't see a warrior in that chart, not sure why you're posting that here.
sharp meteor
oh hey i queued into pokemonz just the other day
he does like 45k dps while being hammered all game
high sparrow
Don't see a warrior in that chart, not sure why you're posting that here.
because i can
modern veldt
did warriors get GCD'd across the board or is the connection in certain areas just shitting horribly
or maybe i'm just getting inch by inch abused by classes with ranged abilities........ getting bullied because i'm playing a warrior :/
slender lion
did warriors get GCD'd across the board or is the connection in certain areas ju...
I get cc'd alot after they try me and cant kill me. Then I obliterate people but ranged are annoying.
Played fury and arms over the last couple days fury faaaaaaar outlasts arms, still does good damage too.
pale minnow
Played fury and arms over the last couple days fury faaaaaaar outlasts arms, sti...
What do you mean fury outlasts arms?
slender lion
What do you mean fury outlasts arms?
Living. Self healing.
noble stream
how's playing this guy?
drifting jacinth
I have way too much crit gear to switch to fury
undone pumice
noble stream
he plays a completely alien build with 0 utility and defensives and all damage
and he's rank 1 ele
thorn herald
Can you spell reflect glacial spike
I've died so many times trying to reflect it I just assume you can't
left laurel
LFGGGGG
thorn herald
Maybe brittle or some dumb effect is eating the reflect when I try to get the spike
ornate quarry
Anyone have any good arms guides to recommend?
woeful solstice
ya press mortal strike and ignore pain
ornate quarry
Its not working
thorn herald
Its not working
Have you considered pressing mortal strike and ignore pain
ornate quarry
Have you considered pressing mortal strike and ignore pain
Yeah but its not working
rocky topaz
charge first then ms and ip 
thorn herald
Yeah but its not working
Press storm bolt on cooldown to Dr kidney shot and remind rogue players to fuck off
ornate quarry
Press storm bolt on cooldown to Dr kidney shot and remind rogue players to fuck ...
🫡
warped warren
balmy compass
i just spent 30 minutes in the queue, game pops, player disconnects so we only get 1 round
pain
stark eagle
muted surge
Because you play the face roll class and his is actually difficult
woeful solstice
Because you play the face roll class and his is actually difficult
vapid rover
bright stream
Because you play the face roll class and his is actually difficult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q35PgSXhKg
(I appreciate your comedy)
lean burrow
past dune
i did solos had 4 kills and won 4 rounds but got no rating which is some bs
past dune
ah
digital crater
Man I just make a fucking fool of myself in caster lobbies
woeful solstice
yeah caster games are hard
you have to actually turn brain on and line things, use leap always to escape
i played a lobby today with arcane/demo/spriest/pres evo
i want to cry
digital crater
Started like two weeks ago and am hovering 1650 but any time I get like Arcane + SP + Destro I just fucking eat shit
And get shoved off my 1800 goal
woeful solstice
dont look at rating
just enjoy games and analyze what u can do better
the real reward is getting better
i swear once you have the armor set you wont care about it
digital crater
That's good advice, but when you got into it for the shinies extremely recently it's hard to disconnect your brain from it
I'll try though
Also, PvP players are funny
crystal socket
Hi, I went from 1755 to 1499 and I wanna cry, AMA
digital crater
Such a different social climate
crystal socket
(I know I need to git gud but man, it's disheartening)
digital crater
On EU it's just russians chain-whispering you to call you a dog most of the time, win or lose
woeful solstice
nah i just got harassed by someone who went 1-5 and then my next game a healer that got outplayed by the enemy healer badly and took it out on me
at high level pve people act the same lol
its anything competitive at a higher level it gets nasty
digital crater
Fair, PvP feels like it's shooting itself in the foot though
woeful solstice
pvp in wow is a diff beast
digital crater
The scene is teetering on the edge of dying already
woeful solstice
ehh ppl been saying that since legion haha
digital crater
I just think everyone benefits if more people play
woeful solstice
solo que did a lot but they need to incentivize premade 3s and make a better tool
for finding groups
OR just put glad mount in solo
digital crater
PvP players hate new players with a passion though
fickle forge
Hi, I went from 1755 to 1499 and I wanna cry, AMA
Who's your favourite crossfitter?
woeful solstice
Who's your favourite crossfitter?
lmaoooo
anyone still have my old shotgun WA from s1 shadowlands
i need to remake it
since executioner is back in style
drifting jacinth
man I just want the glad mount
undone pumice
Hi, I went from 1755 to 1499 and I wanna cry, AMA
what your bench
drifting jacinth
if this season's fucked they better do recolors
woeful solstice
if this season's fucked they better do recolors
i have a gut feeling blizz is gonna put it in SS lmao
3s participation is abysmal
undone pumice
drifting jacinth
I dont want no stupid fuckin proto-drake again
undone pumice
time wasted proto drake
drifting jacinth
go back to bfa
woeful solstice
BFA had a missed opportunity to make the mechagon mounts a gladiator version
imagine this lil shit with orc heads on it
fickle forge
So that one, but with spikes
woeful solstice
yes
drifting jacinth
edgy
woeful solstice
wouldve been sick haha
is calibri still lurking here? i havent been active in here since s1 sl
drifting jacinth
bro only the top 200 are in the 2400+ bracket
woeful solstice
we'll prob get some inflation
drifting jacinth
that shit went up to 3.3k in sl
undone pumice
is calibri still lurking here? i havent been active in here since s1 sl
calibri gone
drifting jacinth
maybe by that time everyone's got all the saddles and'll touch 3's again
woeful solstice
first time the predefined rating cutoffs are biting us in the ass
woeful solstice
calibri gone
f
woeful solstice
wtf
wheat jay
whole channel nuked
wheat jay
basically, ye
quasi lotus
he refused to join an actual gym, we bullied him for it
suddenly the topics were inappropriate and channel got purged
smh
wheat jay
i said im too autistic to join a gym
and cali was banned for calling someone bad and they went crying to valkyrs
quasi lotus
they were infact
sharp meteor
That's a rough go.
quasi lotus
pretty bad tho
sharp meteor
I think that I vaguely remember the tail end of that.
wheat jay
bro we were laughing at rovicus having to use two toilet seats
we were all on strike 50 
sharp meteor
Two...toilet seats?
quasi lotus
300lbs not lean
sharp meteor
Oh, I see.
woeful solstice
Cali was already on like strike 50
oh 100%
i remember we got reacts removed
because we'd react "B A D" under peoples posts
wheat jay
if someone is bad they deserve to know the truth
quasi lotus
oh you're to blame for lack of react
woeful solstice
agree
quasi lotus
reeeeeeeeeeee
woeful solstice
also post bench
woeful solstice
oh you're to blame for lack of react
yes
quasi lotus
skyhold would be a better place with react
wheat jay
its not raid where 19 monkeys carry one orangutan
woeful solstice
i was part of it
wheat jay
its 3 monkeys and all 3 need to perform
woeful solstice
bingo
sharp meteor
because we'd react "B A D" under peoples posts
Oh, that's funny. I got dinged in the achi discord for reacting with credit cards to people who bought glad.
woeful solstice
if ur bad, ur bad and need to likely bench more
woeful solstice
Oh, that's funny. I got dinged in the achi discord for reacting with credit card...
lmaoooo
achi = acherus or achievement?
sharp meteor
Achievement.
sharp meteor
It's mostly collectors so nobody gets called out for buying stuff.
bright stream
its not raid where 19 monkeys carry one orangutan
mythic raiding isnt like that at all
even in just semi-decent guilds it's usually like 3-5 excellent players, 10-15 okay-good players, and if you have even 1-2 'bad players' CE is not happening
sharp meteor
This season is a rough go.
wheat jay
@dusty briar donate me daddy ❤️
sharp meteor
Hair falling out at like 2100-2200
wheat jay
mythic raiding isnt like that at all
even in just semi-decent guilds it's usuall...
bruh you can have 5 bad monkeys and still get CE
wheat jay
mythic inerva i had to fucking LEAP to a healer to show her where to stand
to cut two orbs with one line
sharp meteor
who the fuck is even going to sell glad this season
Uh, I just queued into somebody who was getting selfplayed and he's like 2200ish now?
woeful solstice
Uh, I just queued into somebody who was getting selfplayed and he's like 2200ish...
bruh what
sharp meteor
It'll be a chill time for select specs in the next few months.
bright stream
bruh you can have 5 bad monkeys and still get CE
and did you get CE?
woeful solstice
how do you know they are selfplaying
sharp meteor
Because it's the same two people who only play for money playing with him.
woeful solstice
ohhh
wheat jay
that raid, no, slg broke too many people
bright stream
right. so that would be quite consistent with what I said
sharp meteor
Yeah, I have never heard so many complaints about a raid encounter.
bright stream
lmao
wheat jay
SLG would be an AMAZING fight without the interphases
cuz it was actually fun except that part
bright stream
SLG would be an AMAZING fight without the interphases
eh, it was okay in 9.0, didn't do the 9.3 version
wheat jay
neither did i
9.0 was still fairly easy
people just couldn't follow a fucking weakaura
like
bright stream
until they fixed the ever bugged shit out of it
wheat jay
oh ye it was also the most bugged fight since classic xD
bright stream
nerfed it multiple times
and it was still a 100-150 attempt fight for a LOT of guilds
raiding gets a bad wrap, but if you're going into mythic to take a crack at CE, it's easily as difficult as high end PvP
drifting jacinth
you talkin bout the adds before Sire?
bright stream
you talkin bout the adds before Sire?
yeah, the mythic version was cactus for ages on release
sire was a sick mythic fight too
drifting jacinth
I think the only hard part about raiding is raidleading
dont know why or how ppl do it
somber comet
It's really simple tbh.
bright stream
I think the only hard part about raiding is raidleading
nah, raid leading is one of the easier roles/responsibilities - 100%iles and early prog healing much harder
somber comet
You tell people what to do.
They do it.
Ez
The only time raidleading becomes difficult
Is when people want a say in the strat.
Which is fine to listen but at the end of the day you make the call.
steel trout
😐
drifting jacinth
I still think the mechanics are simple lmfao
bright stream
They don’t
there's 3 more difficulties after LFR
muted surge
People are just to stupid to follow dbm and some weakauras
drifting jacinth
got their monitors turned off
woeful solstice
nah mythic is actually kinda wild sometimes
certain fights are very very very rough
bright stream
I still think the mechanics are simple lmfao
I don't think you've ever done prog, and certainly not mythic prog
muted surge
If you actually struggle with mechanics in raids you have no hands and play with your nose
bright stream
I would say at best you're an end patch carry player
woeful solstice
getting 20 monkeys to dance perfectly can be difficult
woeful solstice
If you actually struggle with mechanics in raids you have no hands and play with...
post bench + raid exp
bright stream
getting 20 monkeys to dance perfectly can be difficult
20 monkeys to dance in sync
muted surge
Some ce as raid leader as heal dps and now raiding as tank
bright stream
plus, you're also one of the 20 monkeys
muted surge
But stuck on terrors bcs the same 5 people fail every time
woeful solstice
ok fair enough
wheat jay
oh btw
bright stream
But stuck on terrors bcs the same 5 people fail every time
yep, raiding doesnt work when you got too much dead weight, also tanking is snooze af
woeful solstice
i dont think vault is really that crazy of a raid on mythic btw
wheat jay
yall should try mythic sennarth
muted surge
Bench like 40 kg, only started a month ago :(
wheat jay
funniest shit XD
woeful solstice
Bench like 40 kg, only started a month ago :(
40kg is better than 0kg keep it up king
wheat jay
drifting whole fight
drifting jacinth
the only reason wow raids are hard is the amount of people you play with
wheat jay
tru
woeful solstice
ya
drifting jacinth
prog's only hard cuz 20 monkeys
bright stream
the only reason wow raids are hard is the amount of people you play with
thats a big part of it, a lot of moving parts
bright stream
the main 'reason' it could be argued its harder than high end pvp - though I would just suggest they're very different
drifting jacinth
what about when the raid's nerfed to smithereens
bright stream
what about when the raid's nerfed to smithereens
then its not prog, it's equivalent to doing a bg
like, pvps not hard when you're stomping noobs, its the same idea
drifting jacinth
smart time to get CE lmao
wheat jay
this raid for CE is quite easy tbh
bright stream
first raids were always meant to be kinda chill, Nathria set the bar reallll high
woeful solstice
man i thoroughly enjoyed SL season 1
both pve and pvp
such a good time
went downhill in s2+
drifting jacinth
the only new shit for mythic rasz is no puddles, more sparks, inversion, roots and electric boogaloo
woeful solstice
everything was great minus covenants being associated with player power
muted surge
S1 was alright
bright stream
funny raid story
woeful solstice
ya totally
bright stream
left a guild on bad terms - issues started with other players having poor performance
woeful solstice
if covs functioned like df renown...i think it wouldve been good expo
bright stream
imagine spending like ~5 months of your life, wiping on the same boss with the same 19 players, and most of you knowing that 1-2 people basically solely responsible
kek
6 hours a week
drifting jacinth
imagine raiding on a schedule
bright stream
id say some shit
I said these things at the end of nathria, which led to me leaving on bad terms
woeful solstice
ahhh
bright stream
anyway, this is pvp channel, no dragonslaying channel
how about them....alliance scum
woeful solstice
laughs in dark iron
drifting jacinth
alliance got better lore now
drifting jacinth
horde doin bitchass democracy pussy shit
woeful solstice
str8 up
bright stream
new tab looks not bad on dk
woeful solstice
about to hit 2.1k on my 2nd warrior. why do i do this to myself
woeful solstice
new tab looks not bad on dk
ya i like this szns tabard
drifting jacinth
2 warriors?
woeful solstice
its nice
woeful solstice
2 warriors?
3rd one cookin
bright stream
about to hit 2.1k on my 2nd warrior. why do i do this to myself
its so you've got a warmup/tilt toon
I'm doing the same thing
Darkiron/human
woeful solstice
its so you've got a warmup/tilt toon
yep haha
bright stream
but doing a DK vacation atm
woeful solstice
we gnomin
bright stream
nahhhh gnomes low tier man
woeful solstice
not even
bright stream
if I do a third I might actually make a worgen
bright stream
yeah but they look like utter garbage
drifting jacinth
I think of Gus from asmon's stream when I hear gnome talk
bright stream
at least goblins look sick
bright stream
oh nah its cause
woeful solstice
bright stream
all my toons named wolfs+[word]
woeful solstice
ahhh
bright stream
and no worgens lmao
bright stream
like 30 toons, all named wolfx, no worgens
drifting jacinth
ngl I dont mind worgens
drifting jacinth
Genn looks mega retarded in cgi
woeful solstice
ya they arent bad after the update
they were TERRIBLE before
but like...gnome
drifting jacinth
We need ogre race already
bright stream
lowkey tho, I miss the belf racial silence
drifting jacinth
most played races in the game are Human and belf
drifting jacinth
p sure all the belfs rn are former alliance andy's
bright stream
fem orc movement looks like a slo-mo giant
at least the 'good alliance races' mostly look cool
dark iron, velf, nelf, human
woeful solstice
ya i think velf is highly underrated
bright stream
you can even slum it as gnome/dwarf
drifting jacinth
dwarves Top G
woeful solstice
dwarves Top G
YUP
drifting jacinth
ngl Panda dk's are hilarious
woeful solstice
this goes hard
muted surge
p sure all the belfs rn are former alliance andy's
When I switched to horde for sl I played belf as all the other races look ugly af
woeful solstice
KT look good in plate
muted surge
Filthy orcs
undone pumice
bro we were laughing at rovicus having to use two toilet seats
bro what
drifting jacinth
see I'm tellin ya people only play horde for convenience
woeful solstice
alright hold my beer
bright stream
(solely on appearance, animations, etc - not racials)
muted surge
see I'm tellin ya people only play horde for convenience
Absolutely, ally was dead so most Switched
woeful solstice
(solely on appearance, animations, etc - not racials)
ok ok
drifting jacinth
bro how dare you put female draenei in D tier
muted surge
Im really glad that the faction doesn’t matter anymore
steel trout
bright stream
bro, the spaces goats suck, terrible feet, stupid tale, average faces, bad animations
woeful solstice
woeful solstice
im tellin ya that "Arkanon poros" always gets ne
as a greek, yes.
drifting jacinth
how tf are the dogs better than them?!?!?
woeful solstice
hahaha
drifting jacinth
madness
woeful solstice
male worgen not bad
its better than before
dranei needs a facelift like them imo
woeful solstice
drifting jacinth
wish we got thicc ass asians instead of panda's
which one's more insulting to chinese culture
woeful solstice
just looked up the DH that called me trash earlier after he went 1-5
he lost another 200 rating tonight
good lad
might message him and tell him i love him
sharp meteor
Pandas are great. 🐼
drifting jacinth
I actually dont mind the pandas but putting asian humans in MoP wouldve been better writing
sharp meteor
Every non-panda model looked like booty back then.
drifting jacinth
cuz then that paves the way for Samurai's in WoW
just imagine
a Japan expansion
sharp meteor
That'd be pretty.
wheat jay
Man was CHONKY
drifting jacinth
Samurai warrior spec
woeful solstice
bring black gladiator stance
drifting jacinth
fuck stances just buff our defenses and our dmg
crisp wasp
what are the best war comps rn?
woeful solstice
war/ele is nuts
war/ret is also nuts
war/spriest works well. i did war/mage/hpal today and that felt fun
crisp wasp
top 2 comps on 3s ladder rn?
drifting jacinth
self/play is a pretty good comp too
bright stream
@woeful solstice
marked ur homework
bright stream
nah they got that tail hole thing going on
their VA and animations aren't bad though
VA probably A tier by itself
drifting jacinth
bright stream
https://tenor.com/view/lmfao-shuffling-gif-10105289
UNDO UNDO UNDO
drifting jacinth
UNDO UNDO UNDO
Sorry for party rockin 🫠
wheat jay
how do you let it get thatbad you need two seats
Was just a meme
He was fat for real but not that fat
undone pumice
good lord i hope so
bright stream
ffs dude shuffle is so tilting
what happen?
mild thunder
😐
mild thunder
what happen?
^
next game i intervene the kidney and the ele dies anyway w/o popping CDs
muted surge
hpala dies twice in a row without bubbling
Just peel better :>
muted surge
Idk i got told that in my last ss
mint osprey
Just peel better :>
unironically what you need to do though, if youre forcing enough damage on them they waste globals on defensives after your intervene
steel trout
ffs dude shuffle is so tilting
shuffle so dogshit
mint dagger
U guys prefer spear or thunderous roar?
cinder token
Thunderous, less room for error for me haha
mild thunder
unironically what you need to do though, if youre forcing enough damage on them ...
intervene doesnt do much into casters, mate
cinder token
Do you guys prefer Arms or Fury ?
muted surge
cinder token
elfin surge
U guys prefer spear or thunderous roar?
spear 
elfin surge
Do you guys prefer Arms or Fury ?
arms
muted bobcat
I’m running the typical unhinged spear build atm and I like it but I’m interested in the thunderous bleed build for SS. Is it harder to pull through?
undone pumice
🐎
proven pine
spear <:xeos:945501697847992341>
You were the chosen one. You heralded the rise of roar. And look at you now…
elfin surge
You were the chosen one. You heralded the rise of roar. And look at you now…
yo fuck roar
all my homies hate roar
undone pumice
agile aspen
I’m running the typical unhinged spear build atm and I like it but I’m intereste...
just play like this guy
he went 0-6 but still
grand scaffold
ngl
thunderous roar kinda cranks
but
spear just too good not to have imo
hahahahah spear + roar
agile aspen
u can tell ss is inflated because that was at 2.2k mmr
agile aspen
2180 or somethin
grand scaffold
lmao he must have been trolling with that build
lean burrow
spear + roar
warm portal
just play like this guy
There was a guy doing that in a 2450 lobby earlier
He went 2-4
I went 6-0
muted bobcat
Suppose I’ll stay away from bleed build then.. 😅
grand scaffold
Suppose I’ll stay away from bleed build then.. 😅
bleeds are perfectly playable
but ms build is better
muted bobcat
Ok for a scrub like me I probably climb some more with MS then
grand scaffold
Ok for a scrub like me I probably climb some more with MS then
i found success with ms build
but
i find bleed build more fun
thick reef
What classes is it better to play build against? I generally go for it against Dks, hunters and demo locks since rotting the pets seems to be a good idea?
grand scaffold
What classes is it better to play build against? I generally go for it against D...
nah
just play regular ms build
thick reef
also some againsts wizards since getting them both in a spear is very hard
grand scaffold
and bladestorm to heal for a bunch
thick reef
Dk's can get out of spear tho
thick reef
Talking 2s here, if its DK-druid
thick reef
ye
thick reef
so spear is still best even against pet classes?
thick reef
hunters can feign death most of the dmg
grand scaffold
nope
thick reef
locks can gate out of it
grand scaffold
they can feign death 1 dmg button
locks cant gate the second spear
you probably wont ever really get to win on first spear
thats really hard to do
thick reef
when is a bleed build ever good then?
slender lion
One thing I'm bad at is peeling. Has anyone got a mouse over macro for intervene rather than focus?
grand scaffold
One thing I'm bad at is peeling. Has anyone got a mouse over macro for intervene...
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
i got it right here
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring
check this out
grand scaffold
macros charge intervene and hamstring into the same macro
saves 2 keybinds
charge works on mouseover
or just by default
intervene works by mouseover
or by targeting the guy
and if you are close to your enemy
press the macro
and it hamstrings them
🙂
slender lion
Damn. That's fuckin sick
grand scaffold
and
slender lion
I'm gonna try that so I can remove hamstring and intervene from keybinds then? Mint
grand scaffold
it cancels bladestorm
so if you gotta execute somebody
or sharpen blade
or cs
or whatever
press charge
and bladestorm stops
slender lion
Forgive me but what's sharpen blade again? And Cs?
N I didn't think of cancelling BS. I just hesitated when I seen they were low and smashed execute bind till it stopped BS naturally lol
grand scaffold
Forgive me but what's sharpen blade again? And Cs?
50% healing reduction = sharpen blade
cs = colossus smash/warbreaker
slender lion
50% healing reduction = sharpen blade
That a pvp talent
slender lion
cs = colossus smash/warbreaker
Ah yes this makes sense.
I take it you wanna save cds till you have them up and the pressure on so u can kill them quick?
grand scaffold
I take it you wanna save cds till you have them up and the pressure on so u can ...
well
if somebody drops to 50% hp
dont wait for cs
just sharpen blade them
so they dont get back to full hp
but aside from that saving sharpen for cs isnt that bad because of anger management
only like waiting another 5 sec
tribal wedge
sharpen isn't for the %dmg boost, but for the 50% ms, you don't really care if ms deals 10k or 20k more
slender lion
Yeah. I mean like if your pressuring a dps or healer n you have spear but avatar n warbreaker r lile 15 seconds away. Wanna save spear till you czn blast all cds n kill?
grand scaffold
sharpen isn't for the %dmg boost, but for the 50% ms, you don't really care if m...
yea
but
it still is nice with cs
you get a really huge pressure window
grand scaffold
Yeah. I mean like if your pressuring a dps or healer n you have spear but avatar...
yeah
dont spear without other cd's
thats just a bad idea
slender lion
Perfect thanks.
Shit I just noticed I've been pressing sharpen blade thinking it was a flat ability
tribal wedge
sure, but if they press something, and buddy don't fall at 50% or more, sharpen is pretty throw
slender lion
Not that the healing reduction came from next ms
grand scaffold
the healing reduction is really good
but if they get low sharpen them
causes healer to waste mana
and cd's
slender lion
I do use sharpen, I just pressed it and didn't MS tho which I guess then wasted sharpen. Fack lol
Not all the time anyway.
Damn idiot 🤦♂️
grand scaffold
all g
happens
also
dont run into the arena with sharpen already up
i see a bunch of people do that and it just makes me wonder whats going on
tribal wedge
dont run into the arena with sharpen already up
thoose generaly leap in and bladestorm into nothing then get cc behind pillar ahah
slender lion
dont run into the arena with sharpen already up
Nah never. I've always used it when I start too burn them down.
grand scaffold
bruh so many people just waste cd's
slender lion
Top man! It's just ashame that shuffle queues r so long tbh
grand scaffold
thoose generaly leap in and bladestorm into nothing then get cc behind pillar ah...
i just spear them behind pillar and make them flop
grand scaffold
Top man! It's just ashame that shuffle queues r so long tbh
yeah
would be nice if they were 5 min ques
everybody i know plays it
yet ques are long
i dont get it
steep inlet
?
there is no healer
its simple to understand
so u have to wait for them to finish games
grand scaffold
i know many healers that play it tho
slender lion
i dont get it
Lack of healers I guess
grand scaffold
idk it just confuses me
slender lion
Bit shit. Also says average 8 mins then you sit for 35 mins before popping queue
grand scaffold
Bit shit. Also says average 8 mins then you sit for 35 mins before popping queue
ahahahahaha
steep inlet
x)
quasi lotus
Bit shit. Also says average 8 mins then you sit for 35 mins before popping queue
Average of 8 mins because its 1 min for the healers and 30 mins for the 4 dps
slender lion
Average of 8 mins because its 1 min for the healers and 30 mins for the 4 dps
Yeah n then 1 dps sucks so bad he rage quits after rbeing focused for 4 matches 😢
steep cairn
Do you CS before or after spear?
tribal wedge
Do you CS before or after spear?
depends
if i know i can't land my spear easily, i cs before
grand scaffold
Do you CS before or after spear?
during it
i would spear into cs
because if you cs and they run then that sucks
scarlet sorrel
spear does a butt load of damage tho
scarlet sorrel
yes. but it adds up. i usually bolt -> cs -> spear -> MS
and at the end of the CS window I sharpen if they arent dead
grand scaffold
i guess
idk i spear first in case they try and run
especially into dh
spear baits the blur
other cd's kill the dh
scarlet sorrel
DH overall is difficult to stay on
hot solstice
Finished off warlock with a spear on low 20% while he stood in mw ring…could have survived if not the spear
steep cairn
Yeah like spear to secure uptime during your burst window just trying to get an idea of the proper order of operations to maximize pressure
scarlet sorrel
but dont listen to me. im an 1800 scrub
hot solstice
DH overall is difficult to stay on
U literally kill Dhs by touching them
steep cairn
Switching from fury so trying to not start bad habits by doing shit out of order
grand scaffold
but dont listen to me. im an 1800 scrub
trust me focus the dh
they are awesome to focus
grand scaffold
yeah
hot solstice
I wonder why no dh use fly pvp talent vs arms anymore
slender lion
ms apparently can do 200k
I have never hit more than 100k ms 😢
grand scaffold
same
but people do apparently
people also apparently hit 300k sks
which i dont understand
hot solstice
Like they can dodge with blade dance and meta…giving glimpse as another dodge mechanic is great idea
slender lion
You see bajheera literally delete people
queen peak
I've hit just under 200k SKS. Its not just SKS though its SKS + Rend bleed + DW bleed
I like the SKS bleed build but I do feel like I do better with Spear/MS build
steep cairn
I think you have to have two stacks of overpower and 1-2 stacks of executioners precision, sharpen blade with CS and a sophic proc to see those big dam MS
slender lion
I think you have to have two stacks of overpower and 1-2 stacks of executioners ...
Thats one thing I don't have. Sophic enchant. On either weapon 😅
Oh wait. Sure I have frozen on 1
steep cairn
I’m still getting used to using the on use badge I’ve always ran insignia as fury but damn when you get Sophic and use the badge you’re MS be slappin
I love the sound effects for arms just sounds like your slapping fools, much better than fury imo
inland heart
which pvp trinket is best?
steep cairn
Seems like the badge since the conquest one actually has crit as the stat; the honor one has haste.
Does sharpen blade debuff spread with sweeping strikes?
hard hound
Ofc
slender lion
I’m still getting used to using the on use badge I’ve always ran insignia as fur...
That the one that gives u big str? I use the proc one. Might get the on demand one tbh. Be good for cds
slender lion
Seems like the badge since the conquest one actually has crit as the stat; the h...
I need too check this out later
Just spent my conq on shoulders tho so would need too wait till next week. I'm now 420 tho with most conquest gear, if not then strifed honor gear at 421
Also how do you get your debuffs on plater?
grand scaffold
Also how do you get your debuffs on plater?
😎
i have no clue i copied someones profile
😂
slender lion
slender lion
i have no clue i copied someones profile
Plater profiles are annoying as they aint always exactly what I want n then I spend hours changing bits haha
But mines r fine just need the debuffs
grand scaffold
But mines r fine just need the debuffs
yours has debuffs tho
lean burrow
does fatality benefit from cs?
grand scaffold
do we need to avoid executing with fatality without cs?
no
you jsut execute
if someone can die they can die
dont wait for them to get healed
slender lion
yours has debuffs tho
Thats bahjeeras
steep cairn
Snapshotting is gone in WoW.
So if all your bleeds are up and then you CS the ticks get buffed during that window so you don’t need to snapshot the application of the bleeds
quasi wagon
Is there a handy list of Totems / Pets you need to kill for PVP? obviously the lightening cage totem but i'm sure there's other crucial ones I'd benefit from smashing.
rotund thunder
So if all your bleeds are up and then you CS the ticks get buffed during that wi...
Yes, it was a big deal post MoP, what still snapshotted and what didn't
steep cairn
Sorry I’m a total noob back for the first time since WOTLK
rotund thunder
They went out of their way to remove snapshotting
rotund thunder
Is there a handy list of Totems / Pets you need to kill for PVP? obviously the l...
There has to be a WA
craggy meteor
Anyone know a good way to get 50 primal chaos quick on my alt so they can get their crafted boots?
It’s kinda slow from PvP
craggy meteor
Was afraid you might say that lol
rotund thunder
They're technically the same rate, PvP just has a queue
craggy meteor
Is honor gear enough ilvl for low keys? Probs not, right? Gotta start with m0 and all that shite?
steep cairn
I know you kill psyfiend for shadow, fel obelisk for demo lock, sky fury for shaman?
dense rover
sup with ingore pain not usable?
craggy meteor
Uh, honor gear should be enough for M+2
Coolio, thanks pal
rotund thunder
sup with ingore pain not usable?
Ignore pain is godlike
You will be using it constnatly when you have the rage to spend and people are looking at you
queen peak
There has to be a WA
Mes' Weakauras should cover key pets and totems
dense rover
do oyu guys incorporate IP in macros of ot her abilites?
rotund thunder
Mes' Weakauras should cover key pets and totems
Those are all pre Dragonflight
rotund thunder
do oyu guys incorporate IP in macros of ot her abilites?
No, I have a dedicated IP button
You don't want to use IP accidentally, and its rage cost is so high (40) it will lock you out of other abilities
dense rover
okay,, but easy available
rotund thunder
IP is used when you are being hit, you can use it during stuff like bladestorm or during a global you're usiing overpower without much cost
dense rover
have it on S atm
queen peak
Those are all pre Dragonflight
? Nah its updated https://wago.io/pjH2s0KV3
rotund thunder
Weird, didn't come up when I searched, thanks
craggy meteor
I’m practically using IP on-CD outside of my burst.
craggy meteor
Unless I’m about to kill something, I figure the mitigation is more valuable than whatever else I could do with the rage
rotund thunder
especially once your DBTS is down
I wish blizzard would make it so you can't toggle off stances
so we could macro them again
Would be nice to be able to macro defensive stance to dbts without risking turning it off and putting it on cd
delicate ginkgo
but they are auras, not stances. thats why
delicate ginkgo
and that they made dstance "stance1" when it was always stance 2 is also yikers
craggy meteor
I have DS on alt-S and BS on shift-S but sometimes accidentally double press
Would you want to macro DS onto DBTS? Sometimes I use DBTS when I’m bursting to stop cc or counter pressure
Wouldn’t want to be forced into DS
craggy meteor
Alts my favourite modifier
rotund thunder
And I use ctrl for bar 3
craggy meteor
Yeah I have alt mouse wheel for party 12 and self
But can still use as a comfortable ability modifier
rotund thunder
I mouseover for the only party cast arms has (intercept)
craggy meteor
Aye. Me too. It’s just habit from my healer characters
rotund thunder
that's what f1-4 are for!
craggy meteor
Mouseover healing really ruins your situational awareness
rotund thunder
Not if you use nameplates
craggy meteor
Too hard to reach f123 fast imo
rotund thunder
Which in the year 2023 you should be
craggy meteor
I don’t like friendly nameplates tbh
rotund thunder
I only use them as a healer
In which case I turn enemy nameplates off to lower clutter
craggy meteor
Fair. To each their own
There is one healer where I still mouseover heal
That’s disc
Because I like to maintain an enemy as target so I don’t need to constantly switch targets to shield and then do some atonement healing.
My fingers aren’t fast enough to switch targets that fast lol
left laurel
I started using Bajheeras health bars, they go hard
lean burrow
Because I like to maintain an enemy as target so I don’t need to constantly swit...
you can bind mousewheel up for party1, mousewheel down party2, sortgroup to keep yourself on party3
thick reef
? Nah its updated https://wago.io/pjH2s0KV3
this is bigger than my screen? how are you supposed to know whats used?
queen peak
this is bigger than my screen? how are you supposed to know whats used?
I'm not the creator, but just change the group scale in the settings
hollow ore
ye but what's that ability
how does it work
there is no info on sham online no one gives a shit about this class seemingly
muted surge
You get maelstrom stacks, pop everything and then blast
hollow ore
there is no stacking, just blast when they get 10 maelstrom?
muted surge
The wolfs give a 20%? Mod and some other ability as well
worthy fern
That’s called shadow flight roulette
thorn sleet
shamans have been the bane of my existence lately
left laurel
I’ve found ele sham on other team = round won
trail hamlet
man swear the first 2 games of every SS is just a crap shoot. No one uses CD's properly lol
and 9/10 games, ret dies without bubble 1st round
queen peak
I’ve found ele sham on other team = round won
Same. If you leave them unchecked they'll destroy you from behind. Focus them and they're done
Uh, phrasing
trail hamlet
Then you have random games. Evoker crit his burst and did 87k + 183k instantly. Feeling safe at 75% hp, dead
next game with me he doesnt and we lose. Big sadge
grand scaffold
can somebody tell me whats changing today?
4 hr maintenance
and what class changes are coming in 10.0.7
quasi lotus
@grand scaffold give us your quick opening guide to 2400 shuffle as arms
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> give us your quick opening guide to 2400 shuffle as arms
alr sure
but before that
wdym opening guide
quasi lotus
how does the average ndogo game start and go
grand scaffold
oooooooh
well vs pet classes i talent into warlords vs melee cleaves i talent into blademasters
if there is a rdru i open on him then focus the dps until i have my go again
play ms build
peel most of the game
spam intervene ALMOST on cd
cant trust teammates
anything in specific you wanna know? im kinda lost
😂
prob always run warbanner because its that good same with sharpen
run warbringer by default
against anything that swings a blade run disarm
i gotta think lmao
wow is back up for anybody that wants to know btw
against pet classes like demo or uh dk dont use bladestorm to burst
use it to survive like during their burst press it and it puts deep wounds on a bunch of stuff not super high healing but defo helps
or use it to run tf away
grand scaffold
how does the average ndogo game start and go
what do you wanna know in specific
quasi lotus
no this is fine
quasi lotus
arguing about peeling vs zugging something
grand scaffold
oh ok
also dont be afraid to run
i may/may not make a yt video
on a general solo shuffle guide
trail hamlet
you ever run demo + wrecking? Tried it vs some specific linesup like monk/disc. Removed his karma in a single GCD
trail hamlet
yea he karma'd during spear, i wrecked, 170k
grand scaffold
thats cool
steel trout
ndogo teacher now O_O
steel trout
im good bro what about you
grand scaffold
fuckin amazing i finally hit 2.4
steel trout
hell ye
grand scaffold
🙂
steel trout
3k next goal?
grand scaffold
eh
rn 2.7 is the goal
i want the achieve
if i get that then i will aim for 3k
trail hamlet
What your Q times like?
grand scaffold
like 20 30 minutes
trail hamlet
man was hoping it improves. at 1750 right now, 30mins
grand scaffold
nah doesnt get better
🤣
once you on a win streak q times are significantly faster tho
atleast from what i noticed
also couldve been from me not noticing time because i was having fun
idk
queen peak
The queues kill me. I only play 2-3 hours a night so I get MAYBE 2-3 games in
steel trout
they really need to stop putting healers 400 cr lower in games
grand scaffold
^
steel trout
i rather sit 1h in queue then have a shit game cuz both healers suck ass
grand scaffold
^
i myself like to win
but when you get a long que
kinda scary
they shove a bunch of cr's together
steel trout
blizzard really made assa op so i had to buy race change
grand scaffold
i bought one some time back
defo helps with surviving
dont make the mistake of trinketing to use racial tho
steel trout
just tilted too hard playing 2s
grand scaffold
doesnt work
grand scaffold
lmao
timber coral
Anyone know if we'll be able to catch up on missed catalysts or is it strictly one per week?
grand scaffold
Anyone know if we'll be able to catch up on missed catalysts or is it strictly o...
prob log in and do the quest just in case
no clue tho
timber coral
How long is the quest
quick carbon
prot warrior is the play in solo shuffle
you get juicy whispers
and hit people for 60k still
grand scaffold
🤣
thick reef
How long is the quest
Maybe an hour or two
grand scaffold
what cr you at with prot
steel trout
prot warrior is the play in solo shuffle
i feel like if you queue as prot war u should get banned for 6 months
quaint snow
i want the achieve
2.7 achiev is from 3s only i think
sharp meteor
That's correct.
steep inlet
Élite Warrior done in soloQ, time for legend asap now
sharp meteor
Shuffle only offers "Generic" rewards, like duelist, elite, etc.
steep inlet
was waiting for arms up
grand scaffold
what cr is legend
sharp meteor
2700 isn't tied to any rewards and is 3v3 only
steep inlet
2400+50 wins
sharp meteor
what cr is legend
100 wins above Elite in shuffle
grand scaffold
100 wins above Elite in shuffle
100 wins
steep inlet
Ah 100
grand scaffold
or 50 wins
quaint snow
100
sharp meteor
It's 50 for gladiator
steep inlet
Didn’t remember
rapid shore
if u drop below 2.4k with like 30/100. does it reset?