#pvp
grand scaffold
brazen rock
subjective i can understand and obviously wont argue
brazen rock
but when some soy cunt comes in here and talks about fucking joint inflammation cuz a mouse might be FOURTY GRAMS heavier
i laff.
shell mauve
which Arms build is better for bgs/ebgs? Like for being the frontline in grp fights
grand scaffold
which Arms build is better for bgs/ebgs? Like for being the frontline in grp fig...
i have a theory that using thunderclap could be really fun
then talent into bleeds
thats what i would try
shell mauve
oo ok ill try that
shell mauve
i have a theory that using thunderclap could be really fun
is second wind valuable
sharp meteor
which Arms build is better for bgs/ebgs? Like for being the frontline in grp fig...
unironically prot is funny
shell mauve
like instead of frothing bersker maybe
grand scaffold
is second wind valuable
no
sharp meteor
knock entire raid groups around with dragon charge
grand scaffold
not today not tomorrow
bright stream
but when some soy cunt comes in here and talks about fucking joint inflammation ...
imagine calling someone soy because the word inflammation intimidates you
shell mauve
knock entire raid groups around with dragon charge
imma do that as soon as i get the weapons haha
bright stream
I can write in construction worker appropriate language if you prefer that
shell mauve
not today not tomorrow
aight thx
shell mauve
i have a theory that using thunderclap could be really fun
imma give this a shot
brazen rock
imagine calling someone soy because the word inflammation intimidates you
post hand 
bright stream
heavy mouse bad, wrist hurt more, light mouse good, wrist hurt less
grand scaffold
imma give this a shot
make sure you talent into blood and thunder
and thunderous roar
just play a full bleeds build but also grab thunderclap and blood and thunder
shell mauve
just play a full bleeds build but also grab thunderclap and blood and thunder
will do thanks
bright stream
IF A HEAVY MOUSE HURTS YOUR WRIST
my wrists fine because I take care of my physical health instead of worrying about my fragile masculinity
grand scaffold
and makes sure you get imp sweeping strikes
and bloodsurge could actually be good but im not sure its worth it
brazen rock
my wrists fine because I take care of my physical health instead of worrying abo...
so it is fragile
he admits it
shell mauve
and makes sure you get imp sweeping strikes
hmm not sure what to give up for imp ss
bright stream
so it is fragile
sarcasm too much for the jobsite?
shell mauve
and makes sure you get imp sweeping strikes
is linking the build allowed here?
shell mauve
yeah
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grand scaffold
can you post the screenshot instead?
high star
bruh just got double warlock bm hunter two healing evoker solo shuffle on new map[
shell mauve
can you post the screenshot instead?
oh haha ya one sec
high star
what a toxic ass game for me
grand scaffold
remove barbaric training
shell mauve
grand scaffold
get honed instincts
and then also get furious blows
imo remove bloodsurge and get fbv
PROBABLY remove unhinged and get improved sweeping strikes
since we going for full on cleave
with bleeds fbv too good to not have
lemme know how that goes
thorn herald
You may as well keep unhinged
shell mauve
lemme know how that goes
alright thanks. appreciate the help
thorn herald
It's just extra damage
grand scaffold
You may as well keep unhinged
i mean
imp sweeping strikes vs like 10 people
kinda nice
thorn herald
Why
thorn herald
3 more globals
grand scaffold
how long do you think a gcd is?
thorn herald
1.3-5 since we don't stack haste
bright stream
you get around 4-5 additional hits in
bright stream
its quite good
thorn herald
It's alright
bright stream
unhinged is hella meme
thorn herald
Might as well get 2 free Ms tho
thorn herald
It's 4 more mortal strikes
bright stream
Might as well get 2 free Ms tho
if you think about it this way, you're getting 2 MS per bladestorm, vs ~4 execute/MS/OP/Slam per Slice and dice
bright stream
the reason people typically play unhinged is that it works well with spear
and thats more or less it
thorn herald
if you think about it this way, you're getting 2 MS per bladestorm, vs ~4 execut...
An Ms hits harder than op and slam so yes I'd rather throw out free mortal strikes
grand scaffold
An Ms hits harder than op and slam so yes I'd rather throw out free mortal strik...
no
just no
thorn herald
And I'll either play unhinged into uhdk because I'm playing spear or I'll swap to the bleed build
grand scaffold
you cant target it
grand scaffold
And I'll either play unhinged into uhdk because I'm playing spear or I'll swap t...
😂
interesting
bright stream
And I'll either play unhinged into uhdk because I'm playing spear or I'll swap t...
its really bad into unholy
I've generally got 6 active pets during the times you want to bladestorm
thorn herald
Yeah it's not great
grand scaffold
so dont use it
digital crater
Unhinged spiky as fuck, handy for closing out kills in a way improved SS isn't
grand scaffold
bro
digital crater
Obv not vs uh
thorn herald
Not many talents to swap it too since we basically take everything in the tree we want
grand scaffold
it cant
bright stream
Unhinged spiky as fuck, handy for closing out kills in a way improved SS isn't
sorta, it's RNG, SnD is very good when used correctly for the same purpose
grand scaffold
Oh we're talking bgs
eah
thorn herald
Yeah man people just clash 10v10 in the middle every bf
grand scaffold
bam
bright stream
Oh we're talking bgs
I'm talking about arenas
grand scaffold
Yeah man people just clash 10v10 in the middle every bf
so unhinged sucks then
its not good
thorn herald
Another county heard from
copper hare
If I face dk/dh, I still take unhinged. there is certain moments where I can still global dh or healer in a swap with BS. Sometimes there isn't really a better option. Unhinged is still better than 7.5% bleed dmg
digital crater
sorta, it's RNG, SnD is very good when used correctly for the same purpose
I mean idk, there are so many potential situations in an average round where you can reliably get both MS's on target
grand scaffold
If I face dk/dh, I still take unhinged. there is certain moments where I can sti...
yeah but we talking about a full on bleed build
in general
thorn herald
It's just 2 free Ms that can end the game compared to 1% crit or... Bleed damage?
grand scaffold
streaming my 2.4 game
digital crater
I like bladestorm into dk/demo
thorn herald
Yeah it's random
thorn herald
But there's no real crazy good alternatives
digital crater
That makes you go fast
thorn herald
Hurricane
bright stream
you can pick up several MS/Execute talents in lieu of unhinged, which is what a few R1s were doing recently
I've moved to a similar build and much prefer it
thorn herald
Like what
digital crater
I've moved to a similar build and much prefer it
I buy this in twos
Not sure about SS
I feel like spear into BS is so bonkers there and you get plenty of double or even triple spears if you're not rank 1
Where people prolly aren't eating those spears
bright stream
this is what I've been running recently, probably need to move away from WB to better CS but
wait 1 sec, wrong warrior
thorn herald
this is what I've been running recently, probably need to move away from WB to b...
Have you played since the new patch
Because we can get everything
digital crater
What I don't get is why this loadout seems to fully pivot towards single target
grand scaffold
against ele sp
digital crater
Then goes WB over blunt instrument
grand scaffold
focus who
thorn herald
Unless you put points in Bloodborne and bloodsurge
thorn herald
Sp
grand scaffold
thanks
copper hare
sp and pray for ele to get nerfed next week in the meantime
bright stream
Have you played since the new patch
ya was looking at the wrong war, this is what I was running post patch;
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVUUVFEQUFQlhEQUBQOVVFRURUBVCVVEBCQE
1% crit vs unhinged, unhinged slightly better vs some comps
worse vs other stuff
bleed dam also decent
thorn herald
1% crit vs unhinged, unhinged slightly better vs some comps
I'd still say 2-4 extra mortal strikes every 1-1.5 minutes is better than 1% crit and some execute refund but live ur truth sweetie
copper hare
blademasters torment is so fucking underrated. Love this talent, specially into melee cleaves
the cleave during sweeping strikes is just disgusting.
thorn herald
Yeah it's nice
Psa bloodletting nerfed by 50% in pvp stop taking it unless you play sks
copper hare
tbh arms since the changes is probably the best arms design I've played since legion, being able to obliterate people again but also being able to die feels like a good balance. Hope they don't overnerf mortal strike in the future
thorn herald
tbh arms since the changes is probably the best arms design I've played since le...
Heard rumors of crit damage nerfs off spear maybe impale. As long as it's not mortal strike I don't really care. Execute being a functional +47% bonus damage in pvp is something for them to hit too
grand scaffold
warrior is like A tier
solid A tier
not s
i dont really think it needs a nerf
copper hare
war is high a tier but s tier in 3s in certain comps
thorn herald
Depends if they even care about 3s anymore
copper hare
it's only getting held back by rogue mage domination currently
thorn herald
Lol
sharp meteor
warr top tier if/when ele and assa get gutted
grand scaffold
it's only getting held back by rogue mage domination currently
and destro harrassment
copper hare
ye and ele aswell. ele in a caster cleave with rdruid is just brutal.
Assa doesn't even need step kick or cross cc anymore. Just tunnel one target and kidney on cd = auto win after 2 min max
hideous
sharp meteor
It's so much damage, man.
Healer goes to juke a kick and just die to assa/arcane throughput.
sharp meteor
Because it's a second of not healing
grand scaffold
those are hitting too hard
copper hare
I still can't believe arcane is able to hit for 190k constantly, that's so fucked up
copper hare
Fire you can tunnel at least and it dies. Arcane on the other hand lives in another dimension
That was through my windwalkers wall
That isn't even arcane surge
grand scaffold
frost mage
with ray of frost
🤢
and glacial spike
🤢
they are both annoying af
thorn herald
Wizards in general
robust geyser
What conquest pieces do we prioritize as arms?
copper hare
weapon/off pieces
robust geyser
thanks 👍
copper hare
If you don't have any kind of set you can buy chest and another one and convert them this and next week aswell for 2 piece
But rather wait for vault until you do it
robust geyser
is it worth wearing pve set pieces even in pvp?
copper hare
if they're not lfr and it's just for 2 piece then yeah
robust geyser
okay cool appreciate it
mental knoll
I think the hunter nameplate disappearing after feint death bug might be the most tilting thing ever in the middle of a fast paced 3s match
full quiver
@grand scaffold u 2.4 now?
lean burrow
what's the plater profile
i got plater but i have to add most of important buffs/debuffs manually
shit like primordial wave buff
lean burrow
gj
lean burrow
No
lean burrow
I see my plater carried you to
What's your plater prof
idle cliff
I see my plater carried you to
Gonna need that plater bruv. Share the wealth
topaz tulip
Might be a dumb question but what exactly does disarm do to magic classes?
I see the effect list says mod% damage taken, but by how much? Not that I'm running around disarming mages and locks but kinda curious if I should be
violet dagger
fury good?
fury doesnt feel too good in pvp rn, might just be me though
undone pumice
grand scaffold
que up again bruh
nah once i get to a certain point i stop queing
ill que tomorrow morning
severe basin
i wish i had that sort of restraint
grand scaffold
best thing to do is
hit a mile stone
and be happy with it for a while
when i got 2300 i waited a few hours before queing
proced to lose it 2-3x then got 2400
best thing is to take a break
sick breach
@grand scaffold big grats on your 2.4, inspired me to try a solo as arms and i went 5/6
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> big grats on your 2.4, inspired me to try a solo as arms a...
😄
ty ty
grats on 5/6
sick breach
ty 😄
im like 1860 as fury so idk may just try to climb as arms with these changes. just need a crit weapon lol
Also if you dont mind sharing the plater you were talking about earlier thatd be awesome
grand scaffold
Also if you dont mind sharing the plater you were talking about earlier thatd be...
sure
sick breach
@grand scaffold can I PM ya?
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> can I PM ya?
sure
mild thunder
tanked about 250 shuffle rating today
because all i get is fucking 300ms games with all casters
im at full-fucking tilt
stark eagle
mild thunder
australia's internet infrastructure and gaming community is a legit joke
steel trout
🫡
mild thunder
the riot mmo better have oce servers 🥲
pure hornet
How 😞 i allwayz get stuck at 1700-1800 max
I am not the best awareness guy.. allways just hit stuff near me. And try storm bolt healer when i burst
Guess i need more practice
I was thinking of getting as many passives as posible so i have lowest keys to press.and that way i can watch better what is going on on the map
urban skiff
How 😞 i allwayz get stuck at 1700-1800 max
what bracket?
urban skiff
definitely no
I mean you might
but the ratings in 2s and 3s are very deflated
even good people have low ratings because of it
pure hornet
I understand..
muted surge
Played some 3s yesterday and got full glad lobbies on ~1.4
Very fun
urban skiff
only use ratings to compare yourself to other people in the same bracket. Don't compare your 1s 2s and 3s among each other
urban skiff
Played some 3s yesterday and got full glad lobbies on ~1.4
Very fun
WoW has been out for so long almost everybody has glad title if they've bothered to pvp
at this point "#.# XP" listings are completely meaningless
pure hornet
I just pvp since 3 weeks but i dream glad title
Hope to get it in a year or two
I am also 40 y old so no great reflexes
hollow ore
go get it champ
near cobalt
my issue with solo shuffle is the que that takes ages
vernal palm
galachad, everytime i open this discord youre here somewhere QQIng about something
😄
So everyone seems to be playing Warbreaker now? whats your guys thoughts about it
hollow ore
it's poopoo
unless it's against pet classes
good thing is as long as we get frustrated playing into magic cleave
we're safe
cuz if we start having fun...
urban skiff
So everyone seems to be playing Warbreaker now? whats your guys thoughts about i...
SS CS does the exact same and you also get longer duration and more damage
hollow ore
vernal palm
SS CS does the exact same and you also get longer duration and more damage
it doesnt put an aoe 30% dmg increase debuff on ur enemies tho does it? guessing thats why top 10 or so warrs are running it since theyre playing 3s
hollow ore
it... it does
vernal palm
well fucik me
hollow ore
warbreaker is just CS but on all target
vernal palm
whats the point of the talent then
yes
thats what im saying lol
one is aoe one is ST
hollow ore
to avoid getting soaked your SS into PETS?
vernal palm
I think we are talking about two different things
hollow ore
no
improved CS is a go-to
cuz you can do what warbreaker do
UNLESS there's a pet class
cuz then there's a chance your ss'd CS is soaked by a pet
IN WHICH CASE yes you pick Warbreaker (not everytime, it's kind of up to you)
so you're sure to proc CS on every (player) target
hollow ore
blunt instrument yes
vernal palm
and what do you mean by SS?
hollow ore
sweeping strikes
vernal palm
Ok, now i understand...
lol
i was like what the fuck is improved CS
theres no such talent
yeah, thanks for the explanation it makes sense
hollow ore
no worries man
vernal palm
I am a fresh noob warrior, i didnt actually know sweeping strikes applies AOE CS
hollow ore
class has ALOT of sneaky shit going on despite common belief
I'd advise checking out Mud's youtube for some insight about those
such as mortal wound uptime and shit
bright stream
only people who think war is easy mode are people that have never played it beyond the gates of 1500
vernal palm
my impression was blizzard would never let that shit go
bright stream
IE mage/rogue players
hollow ore
fuck I hate rmp players
vernal palm
if theres an aoe talent for CS, why would they let sweeping strikes do the same thing lol
bright stream
RMx literally scum
hollow ore
if theres an aoe talent for CS, why would they let sweeping strikes do the same ...
SS is one more target
Warbreaker is EVERYTHING gets shit on
vernal palm
yes i know, but usually im fighting 2 players and their healer is 40 yrds away so ye
if theres no pets its gg
hollow ore
yes but then the DK spawns his ghoul or you get ran down by hunter's pet or the demolock's army
vernal palm
my dmg is gonna go up quite a bit after knowing this 😄
mild thunder
galachad, everytime i open this discord youre here somewhere QQIng about somethi...
who?
mild thunder
some shit fucking warrior that tanked ~200 rating today
mild thunder
i just want them to region-lock oce
id rather wait 2 hours for a game than have to play another 250ms match
lean burrow
year 2050
bright stream
which part of OCE are you in @mild thunder ?
lean burrow
humanity is on the moon
bright stream
250 is big for OCE latency
mild thunder
which part of OCE are you in <@589020053748449300> ?
syd, aus
lean burrow
I queue solo shuffle
5 people get connected to moon server
we all play with 1000ms
bright stream
syd, aus
NBN? Your ISP is pulling your leg mate, You should be on 120-140 to USW servers
mild thunder
even 120-140 is toxic
anything over like 80ms becomes super fucking cringe, esp playing melee
every now and again is fine, but every goddamn match
bright stream
and oce 3s is dead beyond belief
was kinda always like that once you hit 2k anyway
mild thunder
was kinda always like that once you hit 2k anyway
yea shuffle has hurt it even more imo
the entire oce pvp community almost exclusively queues shuffle now
bright stream
the entire oce pvp community almost exclusively queues shuffle now
hard to blame them, alternative is taking a day off work
mild thunder
gotta blame someone
weak wedge
grizzled depot
i need to watch some of you solo Q. need to get better.
topaz tulip
Working on an alt and I"m confused
thick reef
Small indie company please understand
quaint snow
honor and conq gear is always fully upgraded in instanced pvp
topaz tulip
Put it here because it's a pvp item, and those stats don't fit. Curious if it's actual or bug, and if the value it shows at 411 is accurate to what it should be at 411
quaint snow
if you upgrade its only for pve purposes
probably a tooltip bug which they always have
topaz tulip
probably a tooltip bug which they always have
If it's common i"ll disregard. Was wondering if somehow the value it has here being lower somehow made the overall level lower at the top somehow, if that makes sense. If the scaling is wrong the end result would be wrong? If it works like that.
quaint snow
i dont know tbh soz
near cobalt
6/6 won feelsgoodman
muted surge
+300 mmr, gz :>
hollow ore
every single game
an addon crashes
and prevents me from playing
anytime in play 3's
I can do 10 SS and it goes smooth
first 3s, addons implodes
zzz
I could legit not press a single input until reload was done
dogshit
hollow ore
yall playing arms now or some still fury gods?
fury is fine-ish but arms is pretty stronk
muted surge
I could legit not press a single input until reload was done
do you get the blizz error that yyou need to reload
or do your keys vanish and you cant press anything ?
midnight cloud
I'd advise checking out Mud's youtube for some insight about those
Hello, can you please share Mud’s YouTube?
I’m a beginner in PvP and trying to grind out 1800 in the solo rank. Thank u 😄
hollow ore
digital crater
How many sockets can I have?
midnight cloud
https://www.youtube.com/@Mudcx
Thank u!
vague pier
Hey guys, what build do you use on Arms?
digital crater
full slam build
i crit for 39k it's crazy
or you can check pins, those are ok too i guess
muted surge
slam 
vague pier
Before I used the Skullspliter one shot build but now for some reason it seems weaker then using Overpower and slam
lilac rivet
Full ms build
I crit for 140k its crazy
vague pier
On solo Shuffle I one shoted a rogue with Recklessness and Warbringer xD
digital crater
I was doing a bit tbh I think slam is unplayable
I think Spear + MS focus + UH into non pet matchups is basically the SS build right now
muted surge
whoever said that prev exp doesnt matter
he was right, 2.7 shaman tilting in a 1.7 lobby
deft yoke
Whats a good arms build now after update?
muted surge
serene kite
Go bleed build + sks in arms tree then spear in class tree
tribal wedge
Full ms build
I crit for 140k its crazy
i crit a 180k yesterday new pr
serene kite
The burst of SKS in spear is degenerate
You have the passive pressure of the bleeds with the control of spear
Nutty
past wren
don’t you miss out on bleed dmg from the thunderous roar set?
past wren
ye but you should prio haste over crit with bleed build, no?
serene kite
Crit doesn’t stop being good
Don’t be overly dogmatic over stats. A few % of difference either way doesn’t change much
STR is king. Everything else is secondary
Literally
storm pond
digital crater
If my goal is to execute a single target playing unhinged
Should I cancel BS to pump rotation after the 2 MS are out?
What do you guys think?
serene kite
If it looks like cc is going to be cast on you, then no
If you got a fat MS or execute available and you’re in the clear, sure
lean burrow
Should I cancel BS to pump rotation after the 2 MS are out?
bladestorm casts ms on second and fourth tick of damage
then you can cancel and ms
digital crater
King, thanks
fresh horizon
Anyone play around with the bleed build?
primal cloud
Don't we all?
iron fractal
Ignore pain sure makes a difference when paladins are spamming 100k crits..
grand scaffold
deep wounds = arms is bleed spec
i kinda like playing arms bleed
grand scaffold
Ignore pain sure makes a difference when paladins are spamming 100k crits..
parry their dmg
lean burrow
dot spec 
grand scaffold
and then slap them with 100k ms
iron fractal
How do I parry judgement?
Also, can't slap 100k ms when there's always a shield up.
lean burrow
what shield
oh yeah, shield of vengeance got its cd reduced I think
so wrecking throw is now good against them?
iron fractal
I think ret needs a few more buffs. Judgment, Justicars vengeance, final verdict. Do they have any spell that doesnt hit for 75-100 k?
flat dome
Fucking around with whirlwind talents is kinda interesting
grand scaffold
How do I parry judgement?
run from wings
we have 100k mortal strikes every lke 30 sec
iron fractal
Does spell reflection work on judgement?
iron fractal
The hunt.. 70k non crit.. 32% versatility.
grand scaffold
sounds about right
iron fractal
So frozen devotion is best for fury.. and which one for arms?
iron fractal
How come that one is better for arms?
grand scaffold
well
fury does a lot of auto attacks
so frozen is good
arms does less auto attacks
so sophic devotion
thorn sleet
Fury wants the Auto speed. Arms just wants to hit Really Fucking Hard
grand scaffold
^
thorn sleet
Death by a thousand cuts vs. Big Damage
This has been my first real pass at PvP and I started as fury. You can live a lot longer than you should with the self-heals and your initial spaz-out really hurts, but I felt like I just couldn't finish the job out. Arms somehow feels like I live longer and do the damage to kill people.
question: If I get a MS chain is it better to just keep slamming the button or should I be setting up the double Overpower damage increase?
cedar flint
How are u guys finding fury in pvp atm ? 😛
thick reef
Not as good as arms
grand scaffold
question: If I get a MS chain is it better to just keep slamming the button or s...
spam arms
grand scaffold
How are u guys finding fury in pvp atm ? 😛
fury is very nice
thick reef
It’s alri with the buffs
thick reef
But arms still overtakes if atm
thick reef
It
thorn sleet
gotcha
cedar flint
fury is very nice
thanx i prefer fury play stile over arms tbh 😛
thorn sleet
I like the Fury aesthetic more and it's fun just to flip the fuck out. I just rarely felt effective.
cedar flint
I like the Fury aesthetic more and it's fun just to flip the fuck out. I just ra...
Plus 2 button spam means u can focus on other things lol
thorn sleet
Fury only has like... Six? Depending on macros and most of them are cooldowns.
sorry Arms*
thick reef
I think
cedar flint
never rly played arms before 😛
thorn sleet
It's fun. Try the Mortal Strike build.
thorn sleet
You make Big Number
thick reef
Yea u can run multiple builds
flat dome
Arms has like three lol
thick reef
Yea
flat dome
In terms of rotational
cedar flint
does it feel slow but big hits ? 😛
flat dome
Idk why people think arms is some 5head spec
thick reef
does it feel slow but big hits ? 😛
Yea u hit hard but a lil slow
high sparrow
Idk why people think arms is some 5head spec
just denial idk
both arms and fury are 2 buttons
thick reef
Ye
iron fractal
Doesnt Proving in War quest go for random epic battlegrounds?
..Its because I'm honor capped.
Christ.
quaint snow
can i do the catalist thing on an alt and use it on my main?
quaint snow
i see
yeah in all these weeks i never got a tier piece... so i dont even have 2 set yet
XD
thick reef
Same
thorn sleet
i got lucky and got my second tier piece out of RF which is better than nothing
that being said if you convert Conquest gear into Tier Set it retains the PvP increase to iLvL
so that's probably your best bet
thick reef
i got lucky and got my second tier piece out of RF which is better than nothing
Yea that’s p good
thorn sleet
oh re-reading the revival catalyst thing it grants a charge for all your characters? so everyone gets one?
The Revival Catalyst has charges which are capped at 6. Each week, you can complete an account-wide quest Revival Catalyst which will grant a charge for **all your characters**.
vernal palm
You do quest 1 time and every char gets an upgrade
But u cant use ur mains catalyst on ur alt, to upgrade 2 items
Thats what he was asking wasnt it?
quaint snow
yeah exactly
thats what i was wondering coz i read that
but if do the quest on my alt
i get another shot
so i can convert 2 this week?
thick reef
In order to unlock the quest u just hsve to get % right? Haven’t done it yet
I mean the
Catalyst
wet stirrup
Its an account wide quest, you should get one for account with shared progress
thick reef
Does spell reflection work on judgement?
Pretty sure it does tbh
When rets use burst I just throw it up for the 20% magic wall and it always gets knocked off and it looks like a judgement, but could just be some other thing
barren crane
how do ppl react to trap so fast?
whether u reflect or eat it for the healer do u just watch omnibar? look for the animation?
thick reef
whether u reflect or eat it for the healer do u just watch omnibar? look for the...
sorta both
u look to see if he has trap on cd and then u look at the hunters bodylanuge and see if hes running towards your healer, if he is its prob for a trap. also usally they put their stun on the healer b4 trapping
but genrally the best way to know if the hunter wants to trap your healer is if u see them running towards your healer with trap off cd or ur healer is in Intim stun and the hunter is in range to trap, in those situations u wanna try to get over to him to eat it
barren crane
Hmm Thx fam I'll try to be more aware of it
thick reef
np haha sorry if my explanation was weird at all, i just notice all those things b4 a surv traps.
but usally it will be Intim stun into a trap, just so the healer cant pre use anything or dodge trap because the stun locks them in place
iron fractal
You can't buy the upgraded Drakebreaker stuff anymore?
Didnt Malicia used to sell the stuff?
raven jasper
you upgrade it on the item upgrades npc
thick reef
stop giving ppl wrong information
i meant more towards malicica selling the items, like u cant buy them off her anymore
queen peak
i meant more towards malicica selling the items, like u cant buy them off her an...
But saying " you can't anymore sadly" also implies that the upgrades are gone instead of just moved to the upgrade vendor
thick reef
But saying " you can't anymore sadly" also implies that the upgrades are gone in...
ah true yea my b
slender lion
is SMF viable?
thick reef
i thought they got rid of the gear, someone said that u cant get the drakebreaker gear anymore thats kinda why
marsh wharf
550 conq a week is kind of absurdly low its not even an item lmao
thick reef
ye should be more ngl
bro why r Ss ques still 30 min
refreshing q doesnt even help me most of the time
robust hamlet
what 2 trinkets do you arms guys use?
mystic mist
Hey Guys, i have a noob question, how do you get Tier bonus on pvp gear? Is it simply from the vault and the catalyst or have i missed a massive mechanic?
modest rapids
Yeah those 2
slender lion
so, SMF?
slender lion
ok, just played couple games with fury, its damage is very good. n healing is insane
iron fractal
Speed or avoidance enchant for wrists and cloak?
steel trout
Speed or avoidance enchant for wrists and cloak?
speeed
deft yoke
is fury or arms the best spec rn?
rotund thunder
Sitting in the solo shuffle queue onluy to be against a havoc, destro, and survival with paladin and disc heals is uh an experience
thick reef
its just lobby luck tbh
static ivy
any great build for RBGs?
grand scaffold
any great build for RBGs?
ngl
i doubt anybody has one thats actually tested
but lemme try and make one
gimme 2 min
static ivy
sweet!
grand scaffold
BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJkkkSpkEAAAAQQkIQCUERDJJSSoJRIBARCAAAAAAAAJkICARBB
use this
vs 5 targets im doing about 90k dps constantly
without cd's*
with cd's goes to about 100k
rotund thunder
yeah well lobby luck making me only get 100 conquest every 2 hours is pretty nuts
grand scaffold
sweet!
.
imagine vs 10 targets
lemme know how it goes
ooh
also keep in mind
when i was doing that dmg
i wasnt scaling into pvp dmg
so it would be EVEN HIGHER
mystic prairie
yo, can warrior win 1v1s now? Or still melts without a healer
rotund thunder
Arms can 100% win 1v1s
Ignore pain solved most of our squishy problems
not to mention mortal strike hits like a freight train
mystic prairie
rotund thunder
stack crit, go ham. You'll be fine
half rain
That seemed like.. a unnecessary change?
It’s actually a great change, I was finding bugs with upgrading drakebreaker gear with tertiary stats from the vendor, this new upgrade system lets you pick the exact piece of gear to upgrade
fair tide
on dummy, but still pretty beef
rotund thunder
Getting 6 killing blows in solo shuffle feels good
thick reef
on dummy, but still pretty beef
pretty big
hot solstice
220 k on sp with berserk and salt potion…without execute stacks though
thick reef
220k execute right?
hot solstice
Mortal
shut barn
My ms does more than my execute
long ridge
how do you guys deal w/ rdruid pillar humping in 2s - I am disc/war vs rdruid war and I don't like to go arms 'cause he will cleave us, so I go rdruid. But then rdruid shifts every hamstring, bashes me into cc or pillarhump into restealth
inner sigil
can someone give me patch notes to jan 31st
quick ivy
Is Rend important to apply before we burst?
thick reef
it is a filler
100%
u can keep it up if u want but feels better to press when u dont have Ms, overpower, or hamstring
its more dam then slam so better filler then slam
quick ivy
True
But is MS important to get off before burst
im talking about opener
iknow its up 100% mid fights, but im practicing opening burst for shuffles
To force cds
gloomy hamlet
how would u rate 1v1 warrior vs DH?
clear quiver
How do arms handle eles? im having a really tough time with that line up in arena
half rain
how would u rate 1v1 warrior vs DH?
Arms should win the 1v1
muted surge
how do you guys deal w/ rdruid pillar humping in 2s - I am disc/war vs rdruid wa...
Tell me when you figure it out :)
long ridge
Tell me when you figure it out :)
do i just swap and try not to cry? 😦
half rain
Actually wait I take that back. Equal low-ish skill war wins every time but I think higher rated dh players can probably win against high rated war. Just knowing what to do in specific situations with dh and not misplaying a single thing can win you 1v1’s pretty easily.
covert talon
so is it normal to wait forever for SS que, todays seems excessive
inner sigil
Equal skill I’d say DH loses every time
thats completely false.
dh slaps warr
if its a actual good dh
which most arent
expert kiter
ez win
half rain
That’s why I changed my statement
left laurel
so is it normal to wait forever for SS que, todays seems excessive
Mine are 28 min averages no matter the day
rustic grove
Any tipps to handle situations in SS when every other dps are Casters ? Feels like im just melting ...
sly merlin
How do you play against evokers in 2s as arms? I feel that I just get perma kited and never can do a full go
tawny remnant
is the troar + sks still nuking ?
hot solstice
Any tipps to handle situations in SS when every other dps are Casters ? Feels li...
Run to pillar when they use cds
U can even use leap
Try to hit one that is closer to ur healer, so they won’t get free cc
rustic grove
Thank you so much
sharp meteor
Not watching clickbait but Frost Mage seems good.
Arcane is def good and Fire seems a little on the weak side offensively
coral axle
idk why they gotta buff frost mage every week
crude bane
he playing a weird combo
coral axle
didnt that same guy get some arcane mage build nerfed too?
no idea what hes doing, it seems like hes just using ice lance spam instead of big ice lance
looks pretty degen tho
crude bane
i dont know i wrote " hunter solo shuffle "
this guy came out
on youtube
outside of this combo i guess he doing 0 dunno
they should removed mastery from this game ngl
they rework REtpal tho
regal locust
Why are so many people complaining about arms? The spec is still easy to kill.
People are emotional
torpid roost
It's no longer free
wheat jay
very high dmg very high burst very high survi
elfin surge
SMF > Arms
gloomy hamlet
hmm, how does one simply run out of a spear?
elfin surge
vivid pumice
tfw you picked warrior because smf looked cool and it's actually a meme
wheat jay
SMF > Arms
If smf was best id play fury over arms
tawny remnant
bro someone in 1600s que solo ffs
worthy fern
@pearl sierra both good just decide whether you want a proc or control of the buff
Or if you need more haste or crit
pearl sierra
ok thanks
trail hamlet
yall get people that intentionally throw games? Just had an ele shmana that refused to play with me because im melee lol
robust osprey
how do you guys handle dk lobbies
gloomy hamlet
to what extent do you folks use defensive stance as arms
trail hamlet
If you dont have CD's they're going on you, and you need to run
lusty moth
if you’re at all concerned you can camp it outside of your cd’s or any pressure
tawny remnant
just won 4 games in a lobby thats +90 mmr of mine and i got 0 rating gg
coral axle
just won 4 games in a lobby thats +90 mmr of mine and i got 0 rating gg
i've had the opposite happen, 2-4 in a lower lobby and still gained rating
tawny remnant
top damge too just doesnt feel good tbh
coral axle
makes me think its the MMR of your team vs their team in each individual round thats counted, not the overall lobby
tawny remnant
maybe
hazy isle
Why are so many people complaining about arms? The spec is still easy to kill.
i dont really see that many ppl complaining tbh, i feel like that shifted to rogue
vivid pumice
cant find Ele War in my spec list
gloomy hamlet
what makes it OP?
pure hornet
The low wait time.in solo shufle 49 mins
In 2 its like 9 seconds
And i get to play way more games.and with more games i can learn better
All i want is to learn
trail hamlet
Does BOP remove fatality stacks?
muted surge
just won 4 games in a lobby thats +90 mmr of mine and i got 0 rating gg
I’m not sure if that’s how it works.
Last 4 games I was in a lobby with a enemy mmr ~100-150 below my mmr and I got points for 3-3
Or the display is just wrong
pearl sierra
how do I stunt on evokers
long ridge
prevoker or devoker
long ridge
yeah u gotta
get through their burst
then keep training them eventually u can stick on them
keep bladestorm and avatar for anti root only
pearl sierra
ok
pearl sierra
should I interrupt devastation?
long ridge
that way u have 2 charges and a leap
trail hamlet
yea man all my games right now. someone afk's 2 rounds to ensure we the melee for 2/4 lol. wtf is going on
long ridge
idk i just interrupt anything i can maybe that's bad
they are prob tanking their rating on purpose...
report them
trail hamlet
only play round 6 if they're gonna lose. just strange
long ridge
they are bitches
cinder thorn
Why am I stuck at 130k MS can anyone tell me how to get the highest number please
I stack two executes and two overpowers and make sure Colossus is on and Avatar am I missing anything
muted surge
I’m stuck at 80k 
tribal wedge
pr at 180k
double op buff, ava + cs + badge + orc racial, spear, sharpen, and big MS
muted surge
Is using double dps trinket and waiting for proc the play?
gloomy hamlet
how would u rank dps classes for survivability, defensives and self-healing?
top 3?
nimble jasper
how would u rank dps classes for survivability, defensives and self-healing?
this is the weirdest question
warlock warlock and warlock
gloomy hamlet
feared as much
maiden crag
Unholy DK deserves to be up there too.
nimble jasper
unholy flops to melee
gloomy hamlet
what is it that warlocks use that means u can plough everything into them and they just take it
gloomy hamlet
why are warlocks designed to be so much stronger than other classes?
nimble jasper
idk tankiest specs arent necessarily the best
probably because they cry the most
when they arent tanks
mild thunder
they're not designed to be stronger, they're designed to be tanky
because it fits their class identity
nimble jasper
their class identity is also having every cc school
mild thunder
the problem isn't their tankiness, it's that they're also now crazy mobile
maiden crag
Blizzard doesnt change classes based on people crying on reddit and the forums. They'd have to actually read feedback for that to be an actual reason.
gloomy hamlet
the problem isn't their tankiness, it's that they're also now crazy mobile
and their LoS damage
nimble jasper
sin rog technically squish its just
if you get out of cc
and dont die in the process
gloomy hamlet
afflic too
and I have to say, fighting warlocks in 2v2 when I have no healer feels really bad.
tribal wedge
i'm playing with an assa rogue friend in 3s, how are supposed to be his damage? like i outdamage him roughly (like 2 times his dam every game), and i don't know if it's normal, or if he suck :/
nimble jasper
why are you playing without a healer
gloomy hamlet
I don't have a pvp healer friend
nimble jasper
i'm playing with an assa rogue friend in 3s, how are supposed to be his damage? ...
he shouldnt be doing less
maiden crag
You shouldnt be doubling his damage, thats for sure. But comp plays a lot into it.
nimble jasper
altho rogue warrior sucks
tribal wedge
he shouldnt be doing less
that"s what i thought ...
nimble jasper
I don't have a pvp healer friend
well its bad to play warrior without heals
mild thunder
and I have to say, fighting warlocks in 2v2 when I have no healer feels really b...
this is the problem
nimble jasper
yeah assa you kinda just
gloomy hamlet
actually I main frost mage xD
mild thunder
any complaint is irrelevant if you're trolling and playing w/ no healer
nimble jasper
do at least 20k all game
tribal wedge
altho rogue warrior sucks
that what i thought too, but i saw Tay place it like an actual good matchup in his last vid
nimble jasper
when only pressing buttons during kidney
gloomy hamlet
but the same is true for that too
nimble jasper
lmfao
the troll thing to do vs other melee on small pillar maps
is just los around the pillar when stun dr
and just keep them slowed with cripple through the pillar
nimble jasper
or just dont play 2s….
doesnt matter tbh
if you’re less experienced you arent winning as double dps
even double hybrids with good selfheal you’re likely missing fundamentals of how to play
waxen oasis
What’s the usual cd of colossus smash with anger management?
tepid peak
Whats the best gear for pvp?
mild thunder
What’s the usual cd of colossus smash with anger management?
30-35s
gloomy hamlet
why is it unironic?
mild thunder
depends on uptime tho
nimble jasper
cuz their self healing isnt good
nimble jasper
rogue relies on spam resetting
gloomy hamlet
true, but they at least HAVE self healing
waxen oasis
high uptime 30-32s
Trying to line up my stuff better thanks
gloomy hamlet
unlike my mage that has an iceblock that can be removed
mild thunder
if you want self-healing, play a hybrid
nimble jasper
sub rogue is the best 1v2 spec
if you q into bad players
who grief their wall and trinket
then you kill one and afk till cds are back
gloomy hamlet
so is warrior only really good if it can rely on a healer?
nimble jasper
then kill other guy
1v2 requires good reset potential
and burst
warrior more for drawn out fights
like you take ww for example
low rated players say its squish
higher you go people say wws dont die
positioning is prob the most crucial form of damage mitigation
that people miss
cinder thorn
trinket proc & enchant proc
Oh enchant I forgot, I'm using wafting
So the str enchant makes how much difference to the MS?
cinder thorn
double op buff, ava + cs + badge + orc racial, spear, sharpen, and big MS
Ah I'm human so orc racial can't do, how mucb does orc racial give so I can estimate
cinder thorn
(only 2t set)
Ah I don't have tierset either
tribal wedge
600 attack power
tribal wedge
idk
cinder thorn
What do people typically get as dps on the pvp scarecrow thing in Veldrakken?
By 1M damage I usually reach 50 tops and I don't feel its great
cinder thorn
For best rotation ideally
cinder thorn
I know that
But just for ideal situation
Like healer standing there while u pound
nimble jasper
no one does that but ok
cinder thorn
It doesn't matter why
For those that test dps on dummy
What's your dps value by 1Mill mark or so that's a few seconds into the fight
nimble jasper
1mil mark
tf are these metrics
if you dont know how to pve people read the pve guide
?
then make adjustments
thorn herald
People use the dummy because it increases your ilvl
flat dome
That isn't the purpose of dummies
nimble jasper
dummies moreso you can see what some abilities can hit for
flat dome
Well, yes. So I don't understand the snide comments.
jovial meteor
long ridge
disc is really strong
🙂
what bracket are you in
in 2s i often kill disc
arms is actually pretty good at killing disc
shy geyser
Anyone else lagging like a MF when in a bg or multiple people are grouped up? only since patch
high star
warrior has always been good vs priest
pretty reliable kill target no matter the spec
low mobility and u counter their main cc
long ridge
how do i increase my pve dps for this encounter (mage tower)
maiden crag
how do i increase my pve dps for this encounter (mage tower)
Sir, this is a PvP channel.
maiden crag
But it you want help that screenshot is going to need a DPS parse to see the rotation.
maiden crag
I meant posted in the PvE channel, lol.
We just zug zug here and make up fake big MS numbers that we actually get on target dummies instead of actual players.
left laurel
Do you guys ever recommend going Blademaster's torment and then storm of destro over Warlords and warbringer?
long ridge
yeah for double melee
like if ur against 2 melee and u can cleave them
or 2 melee and a hpal or restro shaman and u cleave all 3
left laurel
I'm trying to get better but I'm just hardstuck at 1700 haha
left laurel
yeah, 1500 3s
maiden crag
SS is MMR limited by queue times more than player skill. Prove me wrong.
left laurel
SS is limited by whoever gets the hunter on their team loses
maiden crag
I literally just don't have the patience to wait 30+ minute for a 10+ rating increase anymore, lol.
long ridge
i think in 1.7k SS it doesn't matter if u go blademaster or w/e
maiden crag
1.7k in SS most players don't even know how to apply DPS correctly, let alone CD trade.
left laurel
I don't think I'm doing my rotations right but I'm not exactly sure what they should be besides opener. I try to always stack CS and Overpower and MS but I think I'm just giga dumb
long ridge
at least 1 gb dumb yes
maiden crag
I mean Arms doesn't have a true rotation in PvP. More like an ability priority for sustained damage, and some slight re-arrangement for burst windows.
long ridge
yeah he's right
maiden crag
Probably the better thing to look at is not the rotation, but WHEN you are using damage CDs. If you're getting hard countered/CC'd in your burst timing, you and your team aren't setting up plays prior to burn those before you cash in your chips.