pvp

[quasi lotus]

if that's how you roll

[grand scaffold]

sorry to ask

whats dl

[quasi lotus]

download

[lean burrow]

download

[grand scaffold]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

that was dumb cant believe i didnt figure that out

can you have enough space on your screen to have luxthos and regular bars at the same time?

[untold adder]

Luxthos? I was using the afenar weak aura pack

[cosmic rover]

does wrecking throw remove turtle?

[untold adder]

But found it was just too crowded and didn’t see the CDs easily

[quasi lotus]

narp

[cosmic rover]

shattering*

[grand scaffold]

i like how afenar looks

but holy shit the sound effects

[lean burrow]

i set it up like this

[grand scaffold]

ooh

can you add ignore pain and victory rush somehow?

[lean burrow]

have to update weakaura to get ignore pain

luxthos updates it every patch

i am just too lazy

[grand scaffold]

what about victory rush?

[cosmic rover]

shattering i typoed

[lean burrow]

i removed it but you can enable it

[quasi lotus]

still a narp

[cosmic rover]

ty ty

[quasi lotus]

turtle is deflect bullshit

not an immune

[grand scaffold]

HMMMMMMMMMMM

thats pretty cool

lemme see how i can make it look

brb

[cosmic rover]

i appreciate you

[grand scaffold]

wtf

when did luxthos stop being so tall

literally looks fire

but it does not have ignore pain or impending victory

how do i add them

[untold adder]

I’m going to try out both see what I prefer

[quasi lotus]

copy paste one of the existing abilities and change the trigger to ignore pain

[lean burrow]

it's in utilities

[grand scaffold]

bruh where is utilities

i dont understand wa at all

-_-

[lean burrow]

so there's warrior weakaura group

parent group

and there's other groups inside

one of them is called utilities

[grand scaffold]

oh shit

THANK YOU!!!!!

[lean burrow]

you can take ignore pain out of there

[grand scaffold]

how do i make ignore pain visible

[lean burrow]

and put it in another group

select ignore pain weakaura, and go to tab "custom options"

[grand scaffold]

and then

[lean burrow]

there's visibility option I think

[grand scaffold]

oh wait

its underneath

is ther a way of shifting it?

[lean burrow]

yeah

take it out of utilities

[grand scaffold]

how?

[lean burrow]

and into other group

eg core

[woven mural]

is fury still shit?

[lean burrow]

or left group

or right group

[grand scaffold]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH

bro you are smart as shit holy fuck

[grand scaffold]

no

[lean burrow]

how does it look

[grand scaffold]

it pumps

[grand scaffold]

pretty good

lemme send a photo just now

[cosmic rover]

4set or 2set with higher ilvl

[lean burrow]

also check out the parent group's custom options

[grand scaffold]

i think im gonna move it around tho

how do i move ignore pain and impending victory to the small buttons on top

[lean burrow]

in parent group there's "group" tab to change size/position

and "custom options", to change how many icons show up, rage bar size, etc

[grand scaffold]

ok

[lean burrow]

i think you can put ignore pain closer to the bottom

in the same group (core)

e.g. put it between sweeping and bladestorm

or put it in the other group "Dynamic" for it to be near execute icon

[grand scaffold]

how do i move it to where avatar bladestorm sharpen and those are

[lean burrow]

when you select weak aura in the group

there's three arrows on the left

^ --------------
< IGNORE PAIN
v ---------------

click bottom left arrow or drag it

[grand scaffold]

ah ok

[lean burrow]

church of luxthos

man made weakauras for every spec in the game

[grand scaffold]

luxthos used to be too tall to use

now its nice

see in this screenshot theres bladesotrm and spear

is there a way to move ignore pain to that section

the up and down arrows dont seem to work

maybe i didnt press it enough

lemme check

oh shit i got it

ty man

[lean burrow]

yeah it goes from top to bottom, left to right

[grand scaffold]

ah ok

bro ima send you my luxthos in like 10 min

starting to look FIRE

[agile aspen]

can they make unhinged never hit pets thanks

[untold adder]

is that better than the tell me when thing?

@grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

well

ill send this one over

im setting it up atm

[untold adder]

kk

btw i cant import that string into tell me when

[grand scaffold]

do you know how to make the healthbar show up al the time?

[untold adder]

its hella confusing this addon

[grand scaffold]

really?

i found it really easy

[untold adder]

yea i went to import at the bottom

[grand scaffold]

its a button in the bottom right

yeah

[untold adder]

and i cant find a box to paste it into

import > from profile

and it doesnt come up

[grand scaffold]

alr well ill send you this on

one*

[untold adder]

kk

weird though i should be able to straight import it like any other thing

[dark sparrow]

Yo ndogo, can you hit me up with that profile your cookin rn?

[grand scaffold]

sure

im making it to be a bar replacement

so then my bars will be invisible

but ill see luxthos with the abilities

when you add cc to it its too big to have bars

actually nah

gimme 10 min

[untold adder]

kk

[grand scaffold]

figured out there is a scale

😂

[untold adder]

weak aura god! 😄

[grand scaffold]

once i figure out how to show the healthbar thing it should basically be ready

[untold adder]

k

[cosmic rover]

4 set or 2set with ilvl?

for arms

[dark sparrow]

What?

[cosmic rover]

I have 4set from pve - should I replace the lower item level pieces and use a 2set but have higher overall ilvl or stick to 4 set

[grand scaffold]

why is it showing me this

[dark sparrow]

What ilvl are the pieces?

[dark sparrow]

Probably need to set the trigger correctly

[grand scaffold]

HMMMMMM

ok

[cosmic rover]

i got 411 shoulders 418 legs 408 chest 395 gloves

all pve

[grand scaffold]

how do i set the trigger for it to just show up by default

[dark sparrow]

Yea just use 2set with the ilvl pieces than, rest pvp gear

[dark sparrow]

Don’t know it from the top of my head but ima log in 5 so I can check

[quasi lotus]

should be in load settings

[grand scaffold]

oh shit

it was set to never

🤣

[quasi lotus]

😄

[grand scaffold]

now gotta add mobility related things

anybody got ideas on how to add hamstring?

once i add that the weakaura is done

[untold adder]

is there a CD on hamstring?

[grand scaffold]

no

but i want it to show uptime

[untold adder]

oh you just want to show it

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[untold adder]

like as in the debuff on the enemy

[grand scaffold]

nah like if you do rend with luxthos

it shows time remaining on rend

in luxthos

[untold adder]

maybe copy and past rend

[grand scaffold]

i want it to do that with hamstring

[untold adder]

change the spell ID

thats what i tend to do

[grand scaffold]

ok

[lean burrow]

in "resources" group there's health bar, select it and go to Load tab

[grand scaffold]

i got it

🙂

[untold adder]

im excited to see the finished product

[grand scaffold]

do you know how to make hamstring show up where ep is?

[lean burrow]

ep is in dynamic group

[grand scaffold]

kk

[untold adder]

also btw does anyone know how to make the player health bar and the target health bar like the big class colour bars in party frames?

im trying to find it on ui

[grand scaffold]

where do i change spell id

nvm

i got it

i got the spell id

but now how do i change the icon

shit it still shows rend

[untold adder]

it should update

if the spell ID is correct

[lean burrow]

select weakaura, then in Trigger tab you can change spell id

and it will change if the spell id is correct

[grand scaffold]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

ty ty

[untold adder]

anyone got a stance weak aura?

just says what stance youre in

simple one

[grand scaffold]

WE GOT IT!!!!

i added it to luxthos dont worry

[untold adder]

nice!

lets see lad

@grand scaffold

the grand unveiling bro

[grand scaffold]

2 min

fixing mobility part

thinking about moving mobility to the top part

thoughts?

actually wait i have an idea

[lean burrow]

oh god

so many buttons

[grand scaffold]

im fixing it

wait

noticed the same thing

😂

[untold adder]

man i think the tell me when string btw

isnt quite right

can you export again, think some of it has been clipped off

[grand scaffold]

out of these auras which arent necessary

i have a new shape but too many buttons as you said

im thinking remove overpower

glows when you get a new charge anways

[lean burrow]

you can reduce number of big icons in "custom options" - "core icons"

[grand scaffold]

yea

[grand scaffold]

which do you think arent worth showing tho

[lean burrow]

I put it on 6 personally

idk, I have all of them, but they are small

[grand scaffold]

like all the things i put?

[lean burrow]

nah, only damage cds

without war banner, defensives, intervene, etc

e.g. why track hamstring if it's already on nameplates

[grand scaffold]

i have a habit of looking at my buttons

😂

[lean burrow]

why track rallying cry if it's 2 min cd that you use once or twice in one game

[grand scaffold]

yeah

tahts a good one

[lean burrow]

i just put utility buttons close to middle on spellbar

so I don't have them in weakauras

[grand scaffold]

hmm i might need another 30 mintues you have good ideas

😂

[solar crystal]

Anyone know where I can find current PvP talent imports for Arms and Fury? I can't seem to get the import codes to work from the pinned post here and the arms guide is also not working on the wowhead page.

[grand scaffold]

arms guide on wowhead just takes me to pve

so dumb

[solar crystal]

There is a page for the PvP talent builds, but it seems to not work.

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/pvp-talent-builds

[untold adder]

@lean burrow bro im using default luxthos atm

trying to get ignore pain to show constantly

and same with impending victory

how do i change what he does as default so they disappear

[grand scaffold]

gimme 10 min i legit have what you are looking for

[untold adder]

i want to keep them there

[lean burrow]

select ignore pain weakaura and go to tab "custom options"

there's visibility options in there

[grand scaffold]

how did you get 6 icons to show again?

[untold adder]

it only has author mode?

[grand scaffold]

you want it to show like this right?

[untold adder]

yeah, horizontal but yes

where its permanently there

so i remember to press it 😄

showing on CD or off CD

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[solar crystal]

Ah, I figured it out. I have reached the maximum number of loadouts allowed for my class.

[untold adder]

same with parry actually

[solar crystal]

Anyone know a workaround?

[untold adder]

all of the defensive ones

[grand scaffold]

im removing deep wounds from showing

legit not worth having

[untold adder]

ye

[grand scaffold]

not long now

[lean burrow]

in custom options

"core icons"

[grand scaffold]

ty

[lean burrow]

custom options is middle tab

[grand scaffold]

just testing how some stuff shows up now

[lean burrow]

there's other tabs like "information", "display", "trigger"

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i almost have it done

im just getting the top icons to show 4 in a row instead of 3

see on the right side how its showing ep on top?:

how do i fix that

[lean burrow]

idk

[grand scaffold]

dang

[lean burrow]

you could move sharpen to the left side

[grand scaffold]

i might have to put sharpen on the left

yeah

1 sec

[lean burrow]

or remove hamstring

or remove fatality

[untold adder]

ye hamstring you can see on the threatplates

or whatever plater addon you use

[frail rampart]

I agree

[untold adder]

@lean burrow i cant find that option in custom options anywhere

maybe im being a retard

[lean burrow]

it's only on some weakauras

ones that were originally in utilities

[untold adder]

ok

[grand scaffold]

im not sure about showing parry and stuf

stuff

[lean burrow]

it should be on ignore pain

[grand scaffold]

those are quite long cd's

here is the wa i have

looks like this

[lean burrow]

do you really need details so big

[grand scaffold]

i just like it like that

very used to it

but no i dont need it that big

also if anybody copies that wa

reduce the scale

[digital crater]

I use Luxthos too

[untold adder]

gj @grand scaffold

[digital crater]

Wish I could put Stormbolt in the center of it though

[grand scaffold]

🙂

[untold adder]

just drag them up and down man @digital crater

[grand scaffold]

does that solve the problem you were having?

[untold adder]

ye i think so

[grand scaffold]

cool

[untold adder]

thanks bro

[crude bane]

why you have WA above the same spell tho

[grand scaffold]

?

[untold adder]

btw does anyone macro battle and defensive stance to stuff?

[digital crater]

How you mean? Stormbolt isn't shown for me in the center of the UI, it's just in kind of an Omnibar off to the side

No idea how to get it to the center interface

[untold adder]

trying to think what i would macro battle stance too apart from avatar

[grand scaffold]

cs

spear

sks if you play it

[untold adder]

whats CS and SKS again sorry?

warr noob

😄

[grand scaffold]

colossus smash

skullsplitter

reason it isnt ss is because that means sweeping strikes

[untold adder]

Kk

[elfin surge]

@grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

sup

[bright stream]

unholy dk back to being a support class, so glad I decided to be a warrior player for season 1

[grand scaffold]

when tf is murlok gonna be updated

taking aaaaaages

[crude bane]

tf is wrong with ele

fr they fucking broken

wtf is that

[lusty moth]

pump harder

[grand scaffold]

destro is even more annoying

[grand scaffold]

any other ideas for the weakaura?

[untold adder]

thinking about things, let me play with it a bit in solo queue

[grand scaffold]

ok

[muted surge]

agianst FDK/DH + FMAGE, should you ever focus the mage?

[lean burrow]

maybe only if your teammate is melee

who knows

[bright stream]

arms/fury?

if fury frost mage is pretty manageable

[muted surge]

arms

[bright stream]

3s/2s or SS?

[muted surge]

ss ;>

[bright stream]

mage every single opportunity you get

may have to swap to fdk if ur healer is garbage (which they will be unless you're 2.1+ or more)

or can go hard dk if you're with a hunter/feral/war

[tranquil raven]

I know it's not meta but is there any 10.0.5 fury content on yt or twitch to learn from atm?

[muted surge]

mhm okay ty

my uptime on the mage was just so garbage, and when i could hit him, he just time reverse thing

[bright stream]

fury is very good rn, it'll be getting more attention soon

[bright stream]

yeah it's tough, it boils down to are you sitting in an 6/8 second root at any point

if you sit in 2 of them your healer isn't paying attention, and it's probably gg

because that boi is going to get a frecast of glacial spike off without the dispel onto flurry

[tranquil raven]

Nice to hear. Just had my first 6-0 right after respeccing to fury, but around 1.5k. Seems good but i need to see how the pros get max value out of the spells we have

[muted surge]

oh yes, prot pally and full caster

feels good if eveyrthing is decided if a heal has hands or not

[violet fossil]

Bro you have ms

Jk jk

[low tapir]

can someone recommend a good arms build for 2s?

[tribal wedge]

you can check the pin, galachad made several build, but he doesn't take fueled by violence, he cringe 😎

[low tapir]

thank you

[midnight cloud]

Hi all, I’m new to pvp. Is arms or fury more friendly for a pvp newbie like myself? I’m trying to get 1.8k for the Tmog in solo shuffle.

Your advice / guidance is much appreciated

[long ridge]

You can get 1.8 in either one, both are pretty simple

[midnight cloud]

Oh okok, thank u. I guess I’ll need to keep playing and grinding.

I’ll try out the specs in the pins and also learn from wowhead

Oh yes, may I know what is the supposed burst/killer spells we need to cast in sequence?

I’m hoping to see if Colossus > Spear > Avatar > MS > Bladestorm is correct when I’m trying to finish off a target

[teal cedar]

dont forget to Sharpen

[midnight cloud]

Ohhh okok got it

Thank u

[tribal wedge]

it depends

you want to sharpen when the boys he's something like under 50%, if he's full, no point to sharpen

[lyric violet]

4 piece?

is it worth?

losing verse for the helm or gloves?

[woeful kestrel]

anyone have a macro for spear of bastion to be places where your mouse is? all the mouse over macros im looking at on google aint working

[fossil mortar]

@placid quiveror is working fine

[woeful kestrel]

would it look like this?

#showtooltip Spear of Bastion
/use @ cursor] spell Spear of Bastion

[fossil mortar]

Remove spell

[woeful kestrel]

ok let me try that

huuuuuuuuge ty

didnt even catch that in my macro lol

[fossil mortar]

[woeful kestrel]

also, im very sorry Curs lmao

[formal creek]

what happened to primal infused spark vendor? i can't see the shop option on the NPC

[sharp meteor]

Use the honor/conq upgrade vendor.

[midnight cloud]

oh okok got it, thank you.

[formal creek]

thanks

[sage raptor]

I need that picture of someone's screen that's completely impossible to see

[azure moss]

is there any drakebreaker pieces that are bis for arms?

are*

i dont think so right cause we can use crit pieces on wrist/belt

[weak pawn]

hey guys i'm new to warrior pvp but is there any matchmaking in there ?

like if i que for solo shuffle, will I que with newcomers too or can i grief someone that has like 1k8 lol

[sharp meteor]

It's all MMR and 1500 is where people start.

If you go positive then it bumps you up.

Just queue and play, you'll end up where you should be pretty quickly.

[rotund thunder]

Solo shuffle is rated. You will have default MMR and lose/win your way to play with equal players

Smurfs exist, but they rapidly move uot of their MMR

[lean burrow]

drakebreaker is 421 ilvl, conquest is 424

[weak pawn]

yeah was just worried about landing in some big guys games when i almost never did pvp lol

ty for the answers guys

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, don't worry about it.

[long ridge]

can u share ur lux profile

[royal marten]

why are arms warrior taking rend for pvp? it seems like such insignificant damage

am i missing something?

[wheat jay]

Better than slam

Decent cleave

Good to have dmg ticking when ppl are running

[lean burrow]

instant damage is still bigger than fully upgraded slam

[sage raptor]

Damn so I should take it off my bars then lol

[grand scaffold]

yah

[wheat jay]

Use it for smaller totems

[grand scaffold]

.

there is the profile

im still working on it

but its good for the time being

[sage raptor]

Is there a min range on intervene?

[grand scaffold]

nope

[sage raptor]

Ty

I'm gonna try something crazy

[grand scaffold]

ok

[grand scaffold]

i think ima run this:

probably ill remove warbanner and pummel

but yeah

[quaint sigil]

anyone have a good spear/ms one shot build?

[grand scaffold]

one shotting doesnt happen as much since trinket set was kinda nerfed

[gloomy river]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkkQIpVKJBAAAAkQkIQCQENkkAHgmEhEgkkSCAAAAAAAARKJHICA0QA

No rend, no bleeds just pewpew

[quaint sigil]

ty

been running SKS spec, which is great, but I think ms/spear is better for 2s

[elfin surge]

rend good

[grand scaffold]

bro

[sharp meteor]

Rend by itself doesn't seem great but it looks like an efficient place to put a single point.

[grand scaffold]

what build did oyu play to get r1

[elfin surge]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJEJpUKJBAAAAkQkIakAERDJJQoJRIBQSkAAAAAAAAQSKJiAANEA

[grand scaffold]

2wild strikes>piercing verdict?

[elfin surge]

I drop a wild strike for piercing if i think i can reliably land double spears

[grand scaffold]

ok cool

[sharp meteor]

Piercing adds a pretty decent chunk of dmg on goes with modifiers.

[grand scaffold]

do you ever play wrecking/shattering?

[elfin surge]

ofc

[grand scaffold]

into what

[sharp meteor]

Stuff with shields.

Warlocks is the big one.

[grand scaffold]

so

[sharp meteor]

Wrecking knocks pact off or most of it.

[grand scaffold]

mage

[elfin surge]

Wrecking for warlocks

[grand scaffold]

warlock

hpal?

[elfin surge]

sometimes i dont even play shatter into pallies

[grand scaffold]

i dont usually

[sharp meteor]

Shatter feels weird because most teams can line/stop

[elfin surge]

i swear u get more value just tabbing to another target then trying to shatter

[sharp meteor]

Yepyeppey

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

Getting gouged/warstomped/lined on every shatter is just like

feels inefficient

[jolly token]

Hey all, im new here I got a question, How do we feel about Fueled by Violence, The healing off of Deep wounds, cause the build i started with didnt have it, but i switched to it and its 10-15% of my healing in Arenas. If im running that do i want a harder focus on mastery to increase the healing? do i want SkullSplitter as a burst of healing?

[grand scaffold]

do you ever play sks?

[grand scaffold]

very nice

and mastery doesnt increase healing by much

its especially awesome into uh dk or demo

[elfin surge]

The healing from it is pretty low but tbh warrior has so many talent points you can pick it up now at no loss.

you do not want mastery on anything.

[jolly token]

Also i think i may have messed my gear up, i started Prot warrior in PVE and decided to try arms, but ive been buying Haste Vers gear. Should i be stacking Crit?

[steep inlet]

The other throw is better. I take it to break their explosive shield

[elfin surge]

yea for ret pallies its better than shattering but i swear one mortal strike breaks it anyways lmao

[grand scaffold]

crit is better

haste not bad

prob play bleeds till you get crit

[grand scaffold]

so do you ever play sks?

[elfin surge]

no lmao

[grand scaffold]

garbo?

[elfin surge]

big ms > all

[grand scaffold]

ok

[elfin surge]

i just dont like it

[steep inlet]

Yep

[elfin surge]

idk

[fickle forge]

Haste benefits DW more than Mastery does

[fickle forge]

Rend user smh

[jolly token]

because of the faster ticks?

[fickle forge]

Ye

And you like haste anyway because AM

Crit focused and off-stat haste

[jolly token]

fair,

[thorn herald]

whats the thought process on big ms, are you just overwriting battlelord procs or pressing ms when it lights up

[elfin surge]

ms off cd baby

[thorn herald]

yeah so not the dumb big ones

surprised u dont like sks

it pumps

[fickle forge]

If you can MS, then MS

[jolly token]

Also, i macro'd Ignore pain into my Overpower, is this a mistake?

[sharp meteor]

There are worse things you could do.

[mystic barn]

lol

[steep inlet]

Wtf

[fierce elm]

its perfect

Dont change it

[fickle forge]

We've gone full circle

[sharp meteor]

Thinking about her (bis macro)

[jolly token]

I just felt it would insure that my ignore pain is active a majority of the time, because survivability seems to be a problem, maybe thats just how im playing idk

[thorn herald]

playing with her (bis macro)

[sharp meteor]

Just press the button.

[fickle forge]

/cast Execute
/cast Ignore Pain

Trust me, I'm an engineer

[elfin surge]

[jolly token]

what is SKS?

[elfin surge]

skullsplitter

[sharp meteor]

Skullsplitter.

[jolly token]

oh ok thanks

[sharp meteor]

Basically apply dots then rip them all off.

Might have potential but honestly the MS build where you just machine gun giant swings into people feels pretty great.

[dusty quiver]

Which one is this lol

[long ridge]

bro this is juicy thank u

[urban skiff]

where do ya'll find your arena partners? LFG or is there like a discord or community where the worst people have already been sorted out?

by the way I'm trash

[quaint snow]

what do you drop for wrecking /shattering?

[fair tide]

whats your build looking like @elfin surge ?

Am I fried?

wait thats pve

[spice hornet]

i dont like the skullsplitter build either

i dont like that button

[digital crater]

How do you feel about FbV mud?

[elfin surge]

not insane but worth the talent

[grand scaffold]

usually lfg

or friends of friends

currently

solo shuffle

😂

[quaint osprey]

Is Shockwave any viable? i guess it eats up to many talentpoints

[grand scaffold]

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

its a 2 sec cc

that costs warlords or spear

[urban skiff]

for fury I like to pick up endurance training and shockwave is right there

as an interrupt

[grand scaffold]

thats actually an interesting idea

🙂

[quaint osprey]

hows fury atm in pvp? can you climb with it

[grand scaffold]

yes

its quite good actually

it does a LOT of dmg

[quaint osprey]

has it the same buttons as arms?

amount

[grand scaffold]

less

even less than dh

[quaint osprey]

hmm thats nice

rerolled from evoker because of the current zugzug meta

[mild thunder]

It’s just a waste of DR

Please don’t take shockwave

[urban skiff]

doesn't matter

ain't nobody going for that third full stun duration after 2 stuns

if they instant trinket Stormbolt to start casting heals you bet I'm going to slam that shockwave

[woven pulsar]

On my alt, I have the drake 421 in arena weapon. Is it worth it to spend the conq to get the 424, or should I buy other stuff?

[urban skiff]

what spec and what else can you spend conq on?

[worthy fern]

@woven pulsar weapon is really important but Id prob pick up other stuff

3 ilvl not a bigger increase than going honor to conq on other pieces

[woven pulsar]

Arms. I have neck and both rings, as well a belt from vault.

[worthy fern]

Get a piece to turn into tier this week

Then another next week

[urban skiff]

start worrying about intersecting 4 pieces of 424 set items with catalyst then

[long ridge]

i tried the WA and I couldn't get used to it, also it bugged out a few times 😦

[woven pulsar]

Yeah, was going to work on tier but debating on if I'm going to go for the pvp embellishment stuff.

Just a wee alt in the 1700's for SS

[tiny ore]

Why not do both?

Can equip the two pvp embellishments and other 4 slots for the set right?

[woven pulsar]

Yeah, saying I'm not sure if I'm going to spend gold on them just yet.

[tiny ore]

Crafted Helm/boots, tier shoulders/chest/gloves/legs

Ahh ok

[peak hawk]

I have 2piece pvp, but 4piece if I equip 2 PvE Setpieces (they are low lvl around 380) is it worth guys?

[urban skiff]

they're super cheap tho

[slender lion]

anyone played fury since changes?

[shy geyser]

Anyone have a macro to pop Avatar with a spear but not cancel the bladestorm from blademasters torment?

every time i use the cast @placid quiveror spear it cancels my avatar spin

[long ridge]

bm hunter root, can it be dispelled? what is it called? and they can dispel hamstring?

[urban skiff]

it's a ton of fun, way more fun than arms

[wooden grove]

Super super subjective lmao

[slender lion]

yeah i did fid fury fun, it lacks the burst damage of arms tho right?

[slender lion]

very true

[urban skiff]

what alternative is there to ability team tracker? It feels like the default settings are getting a lot of things wrong and I don't want to deal with it

[wooden grove]

Yes but Arms dies faster than fury

[slender lion]

that is very true also

in solo shuffle tho it feels fine

i take it fury isnt any more bursty than it was?

[spice hornet]

i dont really enjoy arms shuffle, i find it very annoying at higher rating

[worthy fern]

I hate it so much

Healers just play so bad

[slender lion]

i like how much you can press as fury

[worthy fern]

Let me jsut sit full blind while my whole team dies

Just fucking trinket

[urban skiff]

how high is higher?

[spice hornet]

havent played in awhile but at the time when i was 2.5k that was like top 20 arms

[manic gyro]

yo guys, any advice on what dps go well with arms/preservation/x ?

[torpid prawn]

i switched from fury to arms recently for pvp and although fury was more engaging, spammy, zug, it feels so plastic compared to arms

[wooden canyon]

What is it that makes holy priest come back after he dies?

[mild thunder]

it just feels like a lottery ticket of who else is in your lobby

[manic gyro]

bottom talent

[sage raptor]

So if they don't heal, they don't rez? Is that still a thing?

[manic gyro]

yea

if you dont damage anything, there will be nothing for them to heal

[sage raptor]

That's good

[manic gyro]

so they come back with no hp

[wooden canyon]

thanks!

1 more question, is 2set worth it with this pve piece and a pvp piece?

[long ridge]

yeah it is

just for 2 set arms only

10% ms dmg and crit is crazy

[slender lion]

what about it was a choice between 2 set with 411 shoulders and 424 pvp shoulders?

actually nm, i can equip my 421 tier legs n buy 424 pvp shoulders n still have 2 pc

[long ridge]

there u go bro

[torpid roost]

do we only get 1 revival catalyst/wk?

[waxen oasis]

Is Uproar good or its better to line up troar with avatar?

or 1min cd better overall

[long ridge]

yes 1 catalyst/wk

[torpid roost]

what's uproar? ||roar: nothing much homie||

oh booooooooo, okay

[long ridge]

most people dont get uproar

and i use avatar w/ my big dmg yeah

[urban skiff]

I don't want to alarm you guys but I made it up to 1440 rating now

maybe warrior IS crazy op

[dark sparrow]

Playing arms in a caster shuffle is so goddamn aids

[urban skiff]

are caster shuffles a thing now?

[flat dome]

They have been a thing

Don't listen to the caster propaganda that melee have 100% uptime

[urban skiff]

I'm fury, so they cannot control me

102% uptime always

[flat dome]

Yes they can

[urban skiff]

bloodrage and death sentence

I don't have time to stand still

[dark sparrow]

Well they are in EU for sure

Well plenty of time to stand still when you watch your dead ass on the floor

Or sit behind a pillar having the casters just triangle you to death

[digital crater]

I want a macro to cycle arena targets in 1 > 2 > 3 orders if tapped repeatedly

Anyone know where to start on that?

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/8584f6d9627e507fd375ccf17a6de776

the 1K7 is in danger

[sharp meteor]

[past dune]

what would you say is better for arms waking stats or sustained str

[sharp meteor]

The latter.

Also be sure to get a mainstat gem crafted.

[primal cloud]

I might start playing Warrior again for the first time since TBC. Arms feel pretty great, ngl

[nimble cypress]

you guys have some way of showing the total energy (resource) on the target frame? I can only see the current energy of the target not the max energy. Want to be able to tell hunter main pet apart easier.

on blizz ui

[sharp meteor]

You're looking for Pathfinder.

It's a buff that looks like a little green boot.

[high star]

yall dropping BI in solo shuffle?

feels too gud when you cant communicate with healer

[vital breach]

Guys do you think fury or arms is easier to push 2s? I feel like arms have identity problem in pvp nowadays

[warm portal]

Arms for sure

[warm portal]

Its a good comfort pick, I still use it. But its not super necessary unless you get a lot of value from the cleanse. Does less healing than an impending and it does fuck all after damp ramps a little

[vital breach]

I feel like my every CS is disarmed, while in fury i have more burst Windows

[warm portal]

Csmash doesn't line up with disarm anymore because of your talent to reduce its cooldown

So that doesn't sound right

[cyan birch]

arms in a melee cleave i just get murdered after dbts is over

fuckin sucks

[mild thunder]

its literally the opposite

every odyns gets disarmed, while cs is desynced

[vital breach]

One question tho, should i macro avatar and trinkets to CS or spear? I feel like with avatar bladestorm proc i have no time to CS before spear

[mild thunder]

no

[warm portal]

Yeah dont do that

[mild thunder]

if you're running bs proc your go is sweeping > spear > cs > avatar

you have the same time regardless

fun :))))

hpal oneshots

[long ridge]

what do you put the pt into if you aren't playing unhinged? O_O

[warm portal]

I've just been playing it regardless lol

[mild thunder]

why are people running bloodletting over bloodborne

im 99% sure even with 1 point its greater dps

[long ridge]

iunno i copied mud

[mild thunder]

but yea bloodborne probably

[long ridge]

got'cha

[kindred viper]

bloodletting would be better if it also increased the crit chance of the initial hit of TR

[shell plume]

Can you macro Avatar/Bloodfury/pvp trinket together?

[kindred viper]

but as it is, i'd drop bloodletting and go 1/2 bloodborne and whenever you don't use unhinged you go 2/2

[mild thunder]

not ideal but yes

[quick ivy]

So what is the "go to" arms build now?

[spare basalt]

does anyone know when s1 ends?

[cyan birch]

10.0.7 still gonna come out so were prob about like halfway through

[sharp meteor]

They haven't announced a date.

[cyan birch]

prob like 40% through

[sharp meteor]

Probably like 3-5 months?

[spare basalt]

hard stuck 1.6k so hoping to get 1800 b4 season ends 😄

[sharp meteor]

Oh, you'll get there. I believe in you.

[spare basalt]

hope so! thanks dude

[warm portal]

You'll definitely get it.
The rating will come a little easier later down the road as well

[mild thunder]

pins

[quick ivy]

ppl going warlord or blademaster

[spare basalt]

i just seem to get to 1.6k then go on a loss streak (playing fury)

[warm portal]

Warlord for chads

[cyan birch]

that happened to me as arms

got trained hard 3 games in a row

after getting to 1599 lol

[spare basalt]

i think i got unlucky af in my games

but onward and upward!

[kind fog]

So I am really having an hard time deciding which spec I like more in PvP

Who do you think is stronger right now, arms or fury?

I feel like they are both really strong and fun but arms just slaps harder?

At least it feels to me like it

[warm portal]

They're both fine
Fury easier to play
Arms has higher potential so it is preferred at the moment

[spare basalt]

can anyone send me how they have arms keybinds laid out

mine feel likea mess

[mild thunder]

i mean, that stuffs entirely subjective, but if this helps

[sharp meteor]

binds are what we call personal preference

a lot of good players have fucked up bad binds because

that's just where they put hamstring 15 years ago

[spare basalt]

Not binds , more like where they put shit

[mild thunder]

its just about muscle memory

[spare basalt]

minefeel all over the place

[mild thunder]

have a set designation of where you put stuiff

[sharp meteor]

Oh, like bars?

[mild thunder]

damage cluster, defensive cluster, utility cluster, mobility cluster etc

[spare basalt]

yeye, my fury one is perfect

but i have little experience as arms

macros too

😅

[sharp meteor]

I've always just been a fan of having a block of bars under my char.

Because weakauras weren't always a thing.

[mild thunder]

mousewheel gang rise up

[spare basalt]

feel like i need more binds as arms

thanks guys

too tired for this shit, will try in the morning

nn

[sharp meteor]

Night.

[mild thunder]

night? its 11am

[mint dagger]

What u guys do in heavy ranges solo shuffle? Fuck I find it ruff

If I leave the pillar they melt me

[mild thunder]

line shit

play guerrilla style

or go balls-to-the-wall in the opener and end them before they end you

[mint dagger]

What is guerrilla style

[mild thunder]

in-and-out when you have big damage

[sharp meteor]

jerk off with healer at pillar until u have bolt/smash

hope they push in and throw positionally

aka walk into piercing range so u don't have to burn a charge/leap

[wary axle]

ya no shame in just running away for 20 seconds till u get ur go

dont want ur healer to have to waste a cd when ur not doing any dmg

[sharp meteor]

like if u gonna sit there and tank 60k dps while u don't have cds

just walk away and chill a sec

[long ridge]

what the fuck am i looking at

this is how real men play

[brazen rock]

this is disgusting.

[little lava]

played 4 solo shuffles after 10.0.5

arms lookin good

[long ridge]

damn

how do you do it

[little lava]

idk 4/5 wins every game XD

last game lontar as mw

[long ridge]

what do you do when

frost mage and dk are focusing you whole game or

ele and lock or some shit idk

just pillar?

[little lava]

depends what healer are they playin with and what u play with

[long ridge]

lets say i have a rdruid and a dh on my team

vs ele and dk who can blow me up

[little lava]

ele, dk if ele kites too much

u should survive

[long ridge]

but if you fight in the open you die

no?

[little lava]

disarm on dk if he plays this thing with haste

if u trade cds correctly u should be fine

[long ridge]

oh

[little lava]

u cant parry at 30%

wont do shit

[long ridge]

yeah

[little lava]

u must know when they pop cds

spam ignore

dh should darkness when u are stunned or dk uses his cds

[mild thunder]

this is a fucking mess

[mild thunder]

alright, show yours

lets laugfh at varughh

[muted surge]

Not having 1-4 for main abilities is a mess

[little lava]

xD

[mild thunder]

5 empty buttons

wtf is that

my UI is perfection

[little lava]

i dont need any more buttons mate

[undone pumice]

bro doesnt use mortal strike

needs it in the middle of his ui

[brazen rock]

idk how to zoom in

#boomer

[mild thunder]

you dont have to zoom in

[nimble jasper]

need a pov

of some 16 hundo player

[mild thunder]

just take a snapshot with windows + shift + s

[nimble jasper]

with a million gladiatorlossa sound effects

stat

[mild thunder]

dude idk how people play with that shit

or TellMeWhen

[nimble jasper]

tmw is ok if you

pick a few things

but its shit weakauras

[brazen rock]

omg this is hidden tech

[brazen rock]

i dont even pvp anymore dont @ me

[nimble jasper]

died laughing once watching pika do a shuffle vod review

“ok so you should be doing this here but something tells me that isnt gonna happen”

i dont get low mmr play

shit makes the game look so chaotic

[brazen rock]

bruh low mmr dont even know how their own class works much less the other 9 or whatever

[nimble jasper]

anytime i q into rogues at low mmr

[brazen rock]

like headless chickens hoping their next combination of buttons does something different then the last

[nimble jasper]

dr kidney every time

my eyes

my eyes

my fucking eyes

[mild thunder]

wtf is this

[brazen rock]

2.8k io prot/arms enjoyer

[mild thunder]

cs on shift + g

[brazen rock]

shift-g

you blind dingbat

[mild thunder]

thats what i said

learn2read

[brazen rock]

fucking aussies man

smh

[mild thunder]

racism 😲

[brazen rock]

tru

[mild thunder]

dude how tf

do you press control t

thats goofy

[nimble jasper]

mouse

prob

[brazen rock]

nah

big hands

[long ridge]

mouse modifier

😮

[brazen rock]

i have a logitech g600 but my right hand is too fucked to use any of the buttons

[nimble jasper]

fellow big hands

[brazen rock]

😦

games are hard guys

[long ridge]

bro u got ape mits

[mild thunder]

what

the fuck

[nimble jasper]

short fingers

[mild thunder]

is that

[nimble jasper]

hum

[brazen rock]

10+ years of concrete work

[mild thunder]

your fingers are fucking spoon-shaped

[brazen rock]

perma swollen hands from chemicals

[toxic saddle]

Has orc fingers tf

[mild thunder]

shrek fingers fr fr

[brazen rock]

woyer hands

[toxic saddle]

Man's got 20% stun dr irl passive

[brazen rock]

[mild thunder]

your wrist looks so small compared to your hand

rip varughh

[brazen rock]

if i can get 2.2 with those hands

anyone can

[mild thunder]

nah man thats the top-secret alien hand technique

just built different

literally

[indigo barn]

Who needs a swifty macro when your thumb hits all the buttons at once

[little lava]

just played that

lol

died 1 time when lock was immune on cast and 1v3 whole team with drain life

[sage raptor]

should I rage dump rend or hamstring?

doesnt matter. piece of shit game crashed windows

[coral axle]

hamstring is more important but its nice to have both up

[sage raptor]

thank you

how do you add a trinket to a macro without typing the whole name of said trinket

[long ridge]

shift left click

will put the name of the item in tex

t

[sage raptor]

oh shiiit

thanks

[long ridge]

use /13 does top trinket /use 14 does bottom trinket

[sage raptor]

I thought it was /cast. thanks

[long ridge]

eh yeah either one works i think

/cast 13 ... /use 14

[smoky anchor]

wait lmao wtf

warlock can amplify curse > curse of weakness every 30s for 15s of no crits ?

[bright stream]

🤮 g600
imagine having a mouse that has weights added to it on the inside of the shell that you can't remove

[coral axle]

yup hope ur healer got a curse dispel

[smoky anchor]

uhh how do they ever die in that case

[coral axle]

only on one target and not all classes rely on crits

and a lot of healers can dispel curses

it does counter the spear all-in quite nicely tho

whenever people say "I do zero dmg to locks" I assume they are playing a crit build and not getting dispel'd

and not playing dwarf like a scrub

[smoky anchor]

that weakaura is nice to see that i don't have it on

mes arena df

[coral axle]

yeah when im vs warriors on my lock I tunnel vision using amp weak on the warrior constantly, never even consider anything else

[smoky anchor]

lol

[coral axle]

just really funny watching them pop everything and not move ur health bar

[smoky anchor]

the mes thing says "-100% crit curse!!!" and i was like that doesn't make sense

[brazen rock]

only mmo mouse big enough for my orc hands

[mild thunder]

you dont even have normal orc hands @brazen rock

you have female orc hands

[bright stream]

the scimitar is quite big, the m95 is huge (hard to find one that's working), and the Naga X is probably fine.
Size guide for Naga X should be roughly the same as this;

[brazen rock]

now this is insulting

[brazen rock]

*biggest i could find at the store

and why tf does it matter if the mouse has weights

featherweight mice are awful

[smoky anchor]

g600 is the best mouse

[long ridge]

fuck this game

i go 0-6 then i do this

[sharp meteor]

Easy come easy go

[little lava]

bro, just got arena

Frost mage, affi, demo, disc and mw

on maldraxxus arena

[sharp meteor]

Just got a lobby where neither healer pressed any defensives and I was the ele in a havoc/assa/unholy lineup so I wall first big go and just watch them use nothing for each round

[little lava]

got only 3 wins, affi kept saying to reflect glacial when there is lock who has 30 imps who cast bolts all the time

2,85kmmr btw

[bright stream]

this is logitech marketing from the 2010s, lightweight mouse are substantially better, and healthier to use, anything >90g is a bad mouse.
3/4 of those MMO mice are in the 110-120 range.

[brazen rock]

based on what lmao

how is a lighter mouse better

[nimble jasper]

know what they say about small hands

[stark eagle]

Better would be subjective. It's all personal preference

[bright stream]

physics, and biomechanics
the short version of it is that a heavier mouse requires you to expend more 'work' through your muscles to create the same movements. This causes 2 problems; 1) The impact on muscle tears, joint inflamation, and blood flow is heightened, and 2) people are inclined to increase* their CPI to compensate, further exaggerating #1 as the movement is focused on the wrist further and further

[brazen rock]

ive worked in construction my entire life

ill be fine

[sharp meteor]

[bright stream]

there are other problems with heavier mice as well, but thats the main one

[nimble jasper]

naga are way too tiny

manlet hands smh

[brazen rock]

if a fucking 30 gram difference in mouse weight is causing you joint inflammation

please dont pass on your genes.

[bright stream]

30g ~= 45% of the weight, over tens of thousands of small movements

its quite substantial

[brazen rock]

pro tip

joints get stronger

as do muscles

[bright stream]

tell me in your 60s when your knees are fucked and you're doing your first knee replacement

[long ridge]

don't worry his jizz just fucking disintegrates into dust on exposure to the outside world

[brazen rock]

[bright stream]

joints can be strengthened until your early-mid thirties, provided you engage in impact exercises such as running, skipping, and I guess in this case punching a bag

[long ridge]

this guy is skipping

[brazen rock]

once again if your joints are so weak a 40% heavier mouse is causing inflammation

do not reproduce

[nimble jasper]

sometimes i do wish naga didnt make mice

for people with tiny hands

cuz holy hell when your fingers go way over a naga

[bright stream]

some of us don't have to stand around a construction site doing fuck all, and work in jobs where we use computers all day. It's cool that it's not a problem for you, gaming 1-2 hours a day when you get home at 4pm and start sinking...based on your personality probably fucking VB or XXXX

[brazen rock]

yeah man standing around doing nothing, just tying rebar and building forms for a decade

[bright stream]

I bet you don't even have the decency to drink Carlton Draught

[brazen rock]

aussie beer is shit tier

sorry

[bright stream]

eh - the mainstream stuff for sure

[nimble jasper]

anytime i read carpal tunnel from playing wow

i think either bad posture

or weak joints

[bright stream]

Coopers was decent but then they had to get all super into jesus publically

and it's like, you make beer, you're not the voice of the almighty, pipe down

[nimble jasper]

wow not even that spammy of a game

shit is weird

[shell plume]

how much overall dmg does the infurious helm do in arena?

[sharp meteor]

like 2-6%

it's rly good

[shell plume]

shit....I bought the conq helm. Huge mistakes were made.

[smoky anchor]

wow

brewmaster is fucking aids

[sharp meteor]

It is.

[void hamlet]

is it possible to macro spear with avatar if your running blademaster

[worn yoke]

Same

[oblique grove]

What is the consensus between arms vs fury for 10.0.5?

[brazen rock]

[mild thunder]

ban this man from the discord

australian beer is real beer

[bright stream]

oh yeah its mad cancer

cancer foundation in shambles

[quaint osprey]

Does the infurious Helm has PvP scaling

[mild thunder]

yes

[bright stream]

most people still pref arms, I think fury is situationally better

[mild thunder]

prot

[brazen rock]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-cans-dancing-trash-cans-trash-can-dancing-trash-can-shut-up-gif-24101099

[copper hare]

I think it's very subjective. I personally couldn't go back after using the g pro superlight once

such a insane difference to me