pvp

[severe basin]

bro u play on jubei'thos

can u just realm xfer

thats embarrassing

[mild thunder]

the only way for me to reply is to be unnecessarily mean

[severe basin]

thats fine with me

im a 1600 andy who talks shit every day

[long ridge]

bro y dontr u jujst move to USA

[severe basin]

give me ur worst

[mild thunder]

trueee

[long ridge]

u can live in my bathroom

i got room bro

[mild thunder]

i dont wannaa get shot tho sorry

[long ridge]

i wnt shoot you

i'll give u lots of guns

[mild thunder]

actually it should be fine, im not in school anymore

[long ridge]

wowwwwwww

[mild thunder]

i cant resist

the joke

[severe basin]

can i live in ur bathroom

[long ridge]

brutal

no

2200 rated aus only

[severe basin]

why not

[mild thunder]

[severe basin]

im 1600 rated aus

close enough right

[sage raptor]

Dear FBI, I'm trustworthy with guns in a Walmart

[severe basin]

?

[mild thunder]

only good thing about usa is wendys

we have wendys here but its budget af

[loud forge]

which of the 3 builds in pins u guys reccomend for solo Q

[mild thunder]

spear

[loud forge]

do u execute twice then MS like in pve

in execute phase?

[long ridge]

fuck spear go roar

[loud forge]

on players

[mild thunder]

you dont really get an exe phase, but if you get enough globals for 3 executes, yea exe > exe > ms

[loud forge]

i see

so what happend with rend for it to be worth it now?

flat out buffed?

does this seem ok?

[mild thunder]

rend was always worth, people just hated it

its just more worth now

[loud forge]

they changed anything with .5?

oh

[mild thunder]

the instant damage was buffed by 15%, plus we have even more points to spare

[loud forge]

ye i see mainly they juggled places of talents

i didnt rly go trhough arms notes

so im a bit out of the loop

does anyone have the mouseover charge/ intervene macro?

ive found it

[long ridge]

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@tired fractalover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

[sharp meteor]

rip some guy named mouse

[long ridge]

MOUSE WAKE UP

[sharp meteor]

uh dmg is dece and there's a lack of alternative things to press

does feel weird how little it does relative to fat mortal strikes tho

also crit amp gone

[mild thunder]

dude

why do boomkins

always clone at the worst fucking times

[untold adder]

the build in the pins doesnt take bitter immunity then?

interesting

is that because we have ignore pain now?

[mild thunder]

spear ww behind pillar while his healer is cc'd and i have full burst > boomy clones

then loses 0-6 and calls everyone else shit and spam PMs me

[mild thunder]

bitter immunity is fucking ass

[untold adder]

why?

(new to warrior)

[mild thunder]

doesnt dispel anything good, 3 min CD and it heals for like 10% w/ dampening and ms

[untold adder]

ah ok ye makes sense

[mild thunder]

i feel like boomy is the fury warrior of casters

with the players it attracts

[untold adder]

people that just want to smash buttons you mean?

[mild thunder]

nope, toxic shitters

if you're going 0-6, the problem is always you... there's no fucking conspiracy that people are inting when they're on your team

if i go 0-6, its because i done goofed

[untold adder]

actually yeah tbh, most boomies i know are cunts

[mystic barn]

@bruin

[mild thunder]

my new boomy alt

[untold adder]

kekw

[wooden grove]

Chikennoodle

[untold adder]

what classes are actually good now since 10.0.5

[wooden grove]

Chicken doesn’t fit

[untold adder]

arms and ele dominating?

[quick carbon]

rogue dh warrior ele

lock

sstill good

mage still good

dk still good

[untold adder]

feral got fked right?

[mild thunder]

feral still good

[quick carbon]

ferals still goodd

[mild thunder]

its just less fotm

[untold adder]

k

[mild thunder]

sp still good

[quick carbon]

u can get all the answers u require

by playing the game

[wooden grove]

DH still pretty busted

[untold adder]

i know... just havent been able to since the patch

[quick carbon]

as long as we know

warrior is up next

on t he nerf bat

with rogues and shamans

[mild thunder]

i dont think it is tbh

[quick carbon]

iy is

[mild thunder]

i reckon disc is headed for some hard nerfs

[quick carbon]

trust me

[mild thunder]

first

and then probably arms a week or two later

[quick carbon]

its going to be in the same patch notes

[mild thunder]

hopefully with assa

[indigo barn]

Disc does some cracked burst healing

[untold adder]

the good thing at least is they are doing them so regularly now

that everyone will be even

[quick carbon]

thr gonna nerf warrior dh rogue ele at the same time

[mild thunder]

cope

[wooden grove]

Only healer that needs nerfs is Evoker stop with the copium

[untold adder]

majorly

😄

[mild thunder]

sin rogue and ele have been untouched all season

[quick carbon]

they NEED to nerf damage across the board man

[mild thunder]

i dont think its changing

[quick carbon]

sin rogues been nerfed alrdy

[mild thunder]

barely

[untold adder]

ele got nerfed already i thought?

a bit anyway

[quick carbon]

its due for a new one

[mild thunder]

ele got the tiniest, babiest nerfs

[quick carbon]

ele barely got touched

rogue just needs

sin

gutted

[mild thunder]

yes pls

[quick carbon]

make sub the pvp spec

[untold adder]

i only want to play arms and ele atm

[mild thunder]

sin feels like it has really little outplay potential

[wooden grove]

👍

[mild thunder]

esp in 2s

[untold adder]

hopefully its not too bad

[quick carbon]

good sub rogues will still destroy u

[wooden grove]

Both are dece

[quick carbon]

but when u lose to sub rogue

[mild thunder]

sin and outlaw metas have made me appreciate sub rogue

[quick carbon]

usually it isnt

[mild thunder]

as much as i fucking hate it

[quick carbon]

MAN HE JUST OUT PVED ME MAN

[mild thunder]

its not as cancer as outlaw or sin

[untold adder]

i feel like sub would be horrible to play

never tried it

so many fking buttons though to play that well

[mild thunder]

it has a lotta buttons if you macro everything

but last time i played it their dps rotation is literally 2-3 buttons

[wooden grove]

Same with outlaw

[loud forge]

is it better to press rend instead of slam lul?

it does way more instant dmg

no?

[mild thunder]

outlaw is the MOST BORING SPEC in the game

[mild thunder]

yes

[wooden grove]

Idk have you played DH?

[mild thunder]

dh >>> outlaw in terms of fun

maybe not in SL, but defs now

[wooden grove]

DH looks cool but I fall asleep playing it and I play fury warrior

[mild thunder]

the worst part about SL outlaw was that almost every game went into damp

because it had shit burst

but could never fucking die

[wooden grove]

Even got my DH to 70 and still boring af

[mild thunder]

disarm > kidney > blind > gouge > evasion > kidney > disarm > cs > never ending repeat

[indigo barn]

Anyone got any pics?

Hotfixed today

And enchant is 10.0.7 I think

[mild thunder]

10.0.7 for an enchant

blizz is strugglin

[long ridge]

what a fucking garbage lobby

arms/havoc/unholydk/frostmage

frost mage fucking destroys arms, the others do fine, so i lose every round lmao

[quick carbon]

shouldnt go 0-6 tho

[long ridge]

ignore pain did nothing

arms is still squishy as fuck

[fallen bridge]

what's more popular the bleed build or the regular ms one

[quick carbon]

ur probably in rlly awful spots

taking damage

not trying to peel for urself

[long ridge]

how do i peel uhdk/havoc or frost

[quick carbon]

u hit heroic leap

and ddont be there when they re ddoing 60k dps

[long ridge]

havoc/frost beats uhdk/arms. frost/uhdk beats havoc/arms, etc

[quick carbon]

tsg can beat

dh mage

lmao

dk mage does not beat warrior dh

i refuse to accept that

[long ridge]

unholy dk and frost mage won't beat arms havoc?

can you expand on that

[quick carbon]

u have so many tools

to prevent cc

on ur healer

u have the most unga bunga ddaamage

in the game

as dh war

[long ridge]

vs what

[quick carbon]

idk how that loses

to dk maage

[long ridge]

undk is the one of the tankiest if not the tankiest specs

[quick carbon]

at alal

all*

[long ridge]

frost mage is also very tanky

[quick carbon]

warrior can kill dk tho lmao

[long ridge]

vs two melee

[quick carbon]

warrior dh can kill dk

u can also kill mage

u havee banner reverse 2 ranged stun 1 aoe stun ranged kick intervene disarm rally

uu have plenty of tools to work with

[untold adder]

first lobby just now in RSS

double frost mage

kekw

against my arms

and hunter

[long ridge]

whats ur war's name Lukeypooky

[bitter moss]

can someone help me out with a usual solo shuffle opener and burst for arms?
mount run towards someone, hamstring, rend, then normal dps?
for burst, colossus smash, spear, avatar, bladestorm?
im pretty lost. all the guides i keep watching just tell me how to spec my talents.

[past dune]

The only class i struggle to fight as arms is rogues and the super high mobility teleporting fisting monks

[mild thunder]

The only super shit lobby as arms is all caster ones. You can definitely win, but it’s aids to play

Pillar-hug for half the game

So fun yes yes

[long ridge]

whats ur war's name

[quick carbon]

it depends on the casters haha

[quick carbon]

irrelevant

[long ridge]

lol of course

[mild thunder]

Mudcx

Look me up

[quick carbon]

see wot happens when i try to give advice bro

[mild thunder]

Not 4k xp, you’re irrelevant bro

[short glacier]

is fury back to being decent? my smooth brain loved it lol

[indigo barn]

As said many times, it's fine but falls short to arms warriors in 99% of comps

[long ridge]

How do I know pukey isn't 1300

[warm portal]

Shuff destroyer

[mild thunder]

I vouch for him

[indigo barn]

Noice. How many rounds for each spec?

[warm portal]

130ish

[spice hornet]

can someone explain why exactly they made grip 40 yards in pvp

i dont understand

[tribal nimbus]

what is the target arena1 macro but for allies

[sharp meteor]

That talent has been around forever.

It just used to be on the row with asphyx.

[copper hare]

https://www.twitch.tv/joefernandes123/clip/PricklyAntsyGrassSaltBae-2Xn_6nbZawnkW4VK

[indigo barn]

Party1 I think

[spice hornet]

ah now i understand

[sharp meteor]

10 yards increase and reset on kill it was basically the leveling talent

[tribal nimbus]

not working :/

[sharp meteor]

now in new trees it's easier to grab with other stuff

so fdk for instance just gets setup for a mile away

[quick carbon]

was just giving advice but if ur just trying to find some way to validate me being wrong go for it idc

[vivid pumice]

is it normal to struggle with devastation evokers?

I feel like i can't pin them down and they just flap away from me, keep me perma slowed, and blast me all game

[quick carbon]

evokers can be

rlly scary

u just gotta w at them

rlly rlly hard

[indigo barn]

Need to also watch the cc immunity

Get it purged asap

[half aurora]

Do other players MS effects prevent me from stacking slaughterhouse?

[mild thunder]

Yes

[quick carbon]

stronger ms takes priority

[half aurora]

Stronger MS takes priority makes sense from a calculations effect, but if it kicks off the weaker MS, at 3% a stack, you won't ever get a stack up.

[quick carbon]

not worth playing

when ur playing with another ms class

when u have ww dh arms hunter demo lock feral rogue

just dont even pick the talent

[mild thunder]

Stronger ma but because fury ms comes in small stacks it’s always superseded

So it’s never worth

If there’s another ms

[mild thunder]

God that’s way too many classes with ms

[shell plume]

Any updated links to arms pvp talent builds?

[long ridge]

yeah in the pins

[worn yoke]

Does fast footwork stack with movement speed enchants?

[manic spire]

Is this normal? https://gyazo.com/3e09f066b1c0dc2cecafe194b228d4f7

[red ether]

very

[manic spire]

jfc

cringe

is there a good place to find pvp guilds?

[mild thunder]

the guild finder

[severe basin]

mines like that too atm

[vivid pumice]

SS queues suck unless you play heals

[half aurora]

Only about 8 mins for me! But I tanked my rating down 500 points to 1500 trying out other fury specs before patch.

[vivid pumice]

mine weirdly went down when i swapped from fury to arms but i'm at 1400 in both

[manic spire]

I guess way too many dps for the amount of healers?

kinda whack

basically cant play lol

how can they fix?

[vivid pumice]

yeah healers get instant queue but have to deal with whiny idiots who don't know how to use their defensives blaming them for every loss

so you know its give and take

[manic spire]

best part is

when you are destroying that one dps 4 rounds in a row

then he is on your team

🙂

[half aurora]

and then you win anyway

[manic spire]

actually won some a few times

I was like dam getting better I guess

I just started playing so learning a lot every game

[half aurora]

They have to make healing more fun. I feel the recent changes to disc have pushed disc into that direction. Feel like more than just a healbot when I'm playing.

[severe basin]

keep them as healbots

make a dps if you want to do damage

[tight temple]

Hi guys. Just dinged 70 on my war and looking for insight on haste vs crit for arms PvP, before i start buying my gear

[manic spire]

pins talk about it

[tight temple]

ty

[grand scaffold]

you cr doesnt carry over between specs

[agile aspen]

thats why i cap conq on dogshit fury before I play real games

[grand scaffold]

certified baller

[lean burrow]

dk gets fucked

[fiery oxide]

you love to see it

[mild venture]

What is the purpose/function for Rend in PvP, damage doesn't seem very high per tick, so is there another reason, debuff?

[mild thunder]

rend does more instant damage than slam

you have excess points

it costs 30 rage and has a good chance to proc tactician

etc

[mild venture]

So filler, or do I want to hit it first just to lead with?

[mild thunder]

depends on your build

spear + ms > filler
TRoar + no sks > maintain
TRoar + sks > maintain + fresh rend before cs

[mild venture]

Ok, I'm using spear. I tried Troar and it worked well sometimes and then didn't make sense and I flopped over against some comps in RSS.

Thanks, been getting a lot of help reading here.

[manic spire]

wow these queues are killer

[sharp meteor]

Always like there's a million demon hunters and rets who just rolled warr.

[mild thunder]

noooo brooo i swear im not fotm bro, ive always played arms bro, i was just playing dh as a meme bro

i played it in SL s1 bro, im legit 🤡

[indigo barn]

Trinkets bolt and gets disarmed on cds

[agile aspen]

idk solo shuffle having 1 per spec is pretty funny

never have to play against rerollers

[sharp meteor]

You sometimes do.

There's duplicates from time to time.

[agile aspen]

I haven't seen a dupe in 60 matches

[mild thunder]

ive seen quite a few

[agile aspen]

do u remember what kinda wait time you had before matches with dupe

[mild thunder]

same as usual

5-20 minutes

[agile aspen]

criteria is probably dropped as soon as it would impact matchmaking times then

[marsh wharf]

anyone try out fury for the new changes

seems like they would help us

[mild thunder]

yes fury is fine/viable
arms better

[lean burrow]

bruh combalt assembly xp nerfed

i still have 6 alts to level

[agile aspen]

nerfed by how much

[lean burrow]

giga much

[modern grail]

so lame

[lean burrow]

someone says 1800xp -> 300xp

[sharp meteor]

Like 80-90%

[mild thunder]

cobalt farm is zzz anyway

campaign/bgs

thats the way

[sharp meteor]

I like timewalking.

BGs also a decent time and gathering while in queue.

[olive cobalt]

Timewalking is 30 dungeons from 60-70

so not too bad

[sharp meteor]

i lust first boss each dungeon and last boss dies before sated is off

it's reasonably quick

[limber relic]

I saw ppl going "time to swap to warr "

:x

[sharp meteor]

Should be investing in Assa. Tier probably won't get nerfed for a few weeks.

[limber relic]

True

[lean burrow]

rip lvl 70 in 2 hours

[topaz tulip]

Bgs get you to 70 in two hours? Or you mean because honor for pvp?

I am salt. I lost two games last night and dropped 140 pts. Won three games today, 4/6 each time, and got 0. What the fuck blizzard.

[mild thunder]

defs not

the fastest way now is probably campaign/TW

but campaign and bgs together is fast and saves time at 70

[topaz tulip]

Oh did the drop xp gains in cobalt this patch?

[mild thunder]

apparnetly

[topaz tulip]

know if bgs give more xp than dungeons?

[mild thunder]

no clue but i doubt it

[olive cobalt]

they do not

[mild thunder]

dungeon spam is legitimately fucking painful tho

[olive cobalt]

randomas give 650k exp BGS give like 10

65k**

[mild thunder]

"why yes, i do want to do uldaman for the 40th time"

[olive cobalt]

10k**

[topaz tulip]

It is but honestly a bit better with tw since you literally see every dungeon ever

[olive cobalt]

27 dungeons for timewalking

so its a little shorter

[topaz tulip]

Yeah but don't you get more xp for killing players than you do for killing mobs?

Realizing now I"ve never actually tried bgs underleveled

[olive cobalt]

no you dont, bgs will on average give like 10-15k exp and every llvl is like 300k exp

and lots of smurfs so it isnt tht fun unless you gop buy AH gear

[lucid walrus]

bg leveling used to be busted before they nerfed the arena champion trinkets

get 2 for a WSG dub

[topaz tulip]

Yeah not worth that much

[smoky anchor]

how do you deal with ele sham burst

[muted surge]

I, on my low cr journey, accepted that I need to los

[wise fossil]

So are Dreakbreakes BiS?

For the double upgrade?

[marsh wharf]

los what

a frost mage

there is no losing

[olive cobalt]

trade CDs for stormkeeper, kill skyfury totem

[marsh wharf]

most classes hope you los so they get their go again in 20 seconds

[olive cobalt]

Reflect first stormkeeper bolt

[muted surge]

I didn’t know that frost mages are ele shamans

[smoky anchor]

ohhhh baby

[thin fossil]

did they move the trophy of strife vender?

[olive cobalt]

all my kills are 100k execute with deathmakr thts an odd smash

[muted surge]

Upgrade guy

[thin fossil]

wtf is even this

mostly this

[muted surge]

Just tooltip bug

[thin fossil]

oh, ok

well i'm 1 short from crafting the helm it seems

[safe glen]

sooooo in battlegrounds, is arms or fury now better?

as a casual epic battleground enjoyer

[mild thunder]

if you have a reliable healer > arms

if no > fury

[safe glen]

any recomendation for a EBG build?

for arms

[mild thunder]

bleed build is good for big bg teamfights

lot of spread dam but good ST kill pressure

but swap blunted instruments for warbreaker

[safe glen]

which one of the three pinned builds is the bleed focused one?

[mild thunder]

the middle one

[safe glen]

"Thunderous Roar + No Skullsplitter" ?

[tardy flame]

Yes

[safe glen]

allright thank you very much

[thick reef]

Is Drakebreaker gear worth keeping for world pvp once you have your conquest gear?

Like for the set bonus? Or does the ilvl just dwarf the drakebreaker gear?

[hardy zenith]

can you equip an honor and conquest trinket of the same type (i.e. the alacrity proc trinket) and get double procs that way? Just curious

[opaque quarry]

Like an honor alacrity and conq alacrity? No iirc.

[hardy zenith]

kk thanks, you can do it with rings but trinkets seemed like more of a stretch

[topaz tulip]

Pretty sure those are unique equipped

[opaque quarry]

Finally setting my my arms pvp .-. I hate it . Fury was more fun.

[olive cobalt]

cause its more than 3 buttons? lol

arms has utility

fury is zug zug

[opaque quarry]

Exactly zug zug.

[limber relic]

Fury has 2 buttons

😂

[opaque quarry]

Plus it heals a fuck ton more.

[muted surge]

Then just play fury

[opaque quarry]

But I wanna win games. So I'll adjust. .-.

[limber relic]

Bloodthirst and rampage

[opaque quarry]

I mean it has good dmg, but I noticed most games I don't have enough throughput, though I have good self-heal.

[burnt pawn]

did they ever say why crushing blow doesnt proc battle trance or they just gonna leave it bugged like it has been?

[limber relic]

Fixed an issue that prevented characters from earning “the Horde Slayer” and “the Alliance Slayer” titles

Fucking finally

Only took forever

[opaque quarry]

ye

[limber relic]

Now i have 2 do it all over again lol

[opaque quarry]

I mean if you already did it, it'll give it to you

Just got mine earlier today

[topaz tulip]

I think I've asked before but does anyone know when s1 ends?

[mild thunder]

around the time s2 begins

[topaz tulip]

[mild thunder]

probably got another 3 months at least

[topaz tulip]

So they just announce arbitrarily and they aren't the same length?

3 months?

Well shit I've been crunching for no fuckin reason

[mild thunder]

a month and a bit before 10.0.7 drops, and then 1-2 months of that

is my guess

[copper hare]

They fixed the same shit mid s4 in SL and then it bugged out again when they implented the new reckless abandon

Since then it's a hopeless pvp talent

[marsh wharf]

spear is such an ass spell in pvp every class has an out

[lean burrow]

because it's bugged

[topaz tulip]

ah, so .1 is coming immediately after .7 then? So expect a mid march/april timing. I guess I'll guess at 2 months then, just before spring break

[lean burrow]

only lock's gate and evoker's flight is supposed to free from spear

[marsh wharf]

'its literally always been like this idk what bug you are talking about

[lean burrow]

and something else that I forgot

[lean burrow]

when spear pulls you back in, you can use movement ability to free yourself

pull has internal cd

[topaz tulip]

Okay but why even that? I can't heroic leap out. Fuckin frogs can't leap out. Mages can't port out, they get sucked back. So why give anyone freedom?

[lean burrow]

you can leap out

with bug

[limber relic]

U can leap out now

Yep

[topaz tulip]

bruh

[limber relic]

U can blink out

U can vanish out now

[lean burrow]

everyone gets out because of bug

[limber relic]

Shit got bugged hard after patch

[lean burrow]

is it even worse now?

[topaz tulip]

I just did it to a mage last match and they got dragged back lol

so what you're saying is

fuck spear, take roar

[lean burrow]

can hunters bug out of spear?

[topaz tulip]

since the crit isn't doing shit if you can't stand in it

[lean burrow]

idk if disengage is fast enough

[topaz tulip]

No need, the shell lets them walk out

[lean burrow]

then use spear to force turtle

[marsh wharf]

a warrior charged out

last game

[topaz tulip]

O/c. ez bait. same with drac flight. still irritating when you don't want it to happen

[lean burrow]

honestly if he can consistently do that he deserves it

[topaz tulip]

Can't be mad at my own people but fuck the rest

[marsh wharf]

i mean it wasent even skill based he just charged halfway through spear lmao

just not gonna run it

not worth the brain cell depletion

[lean burrow]

it's giga strong against squishies

monk/hunter

ele

i like spear now

[sharp meteor]

Don't spear stuff that has recently been vortexed or w/e.

It can be bugged out of by stuff with dashes but usually not reliably.

[lean burrow]

i forgot knockback DR existed

[marsh wharf]

i mean like i said just not going to run it if i need a collection of extra bug induced gameplay mechanics

[sharp meteor]

It's worth it.

Roar is the "spear does nothing here" pick.

Like into DKs when you're only going DK as somebody pointed out earlier.

[quiet pendant]

How u guys do against frost mages ?? And 2 casters in general balance and frost are aids. Can’t do crap lol

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, in general Warrior sucks into double wizard.

You're somewhat restricted to trying to damage/control one of them while not dragging your healer into too rough of a spot.

[olive cobalt]

or just do a go when u have spear otherwise pillar

[sharp meteor]

Gotta be selective, yeah. Otherwise you just get dragged and pve'd down.

You don't really have the tools to stop the caster you aren't hitting from messing up your healer or other teammate, so can sometimes opt to hit nearest caster or let teammates try to cover whatever it is they're doing.

[quiet pendant]

Or just try to spear solo healer if lucky

[topaz tulip]

Is there anywhere to view previous match records?

[olive cobalt]

download wow arena logs

[topaz tulip]

I cry

assuming it only works for matches while it was installed?

[olive cobalt]

yes

[hot solstice]

another one

[zinc hemlock]

anyone down dfor some pvp?

[safe glen]

when running arms in battlegrounds, do you even use Whirlwind ever or is it a waste of a slot?

[inner oasis]

Nice 🙂

@hot solstice can you send me the spec you use?

[hot solstice]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJEJpVKJBAAAAkQkIakEQENkIAaSESASSkAAAAAAAAQokkIgANEA

changes depend on enemy team\

[inner oasis]

👍

Thank you

[opaque quarry]

Anyone use GladiatorlosSA? Nevermind, fixed why it wasn't working lol.

[hot solstice]

does it count only for warriors?

244th place I mean

[copper hare]

let's see how long we gotta fight vs 20k dps disc priest

before they nerf the shit outta it

[craggy meteor]

Yeah but only for a few things otherwise it’s information overload

[copper hare]

yes

[opaque quarry]

Ah. Was gonna ask why mine wasn't actually loading but I guess SA2 works.

[craggy meteor]

Disc could do 20k dps before the patch

[copper hare]

never seen it so consistently before

they obv had no healing, but that now is just dumb

[hot solstice]

Imagine they had kirian boon again

[copper hare]

they do dmg like they have 100% uptime on kyrian

[steep inlet]

arms

not just warriors

[hot solstice]

not sure if I need to keep reflect for mgs anymore...feels like schism is more important spell now

[hot solstice]

but for crimson legend it count all spec?

[steep inlet]

arms too

[proud ether]

guys any tips on playing against ele shamans and bm hunters?

those 2 specs shit on me like 24/7

[craggy meteor]

Most of their changes affect hps not dps. Unless they go all-in on a dps build which most aren’t

Disc is a lot better now but they’re not really doing massively more damage

If you see someone playing the TE weaving build, just tunnel the shit out of them

[hot solstice]

2ble ps is cringe

dome 2ble ps rupture and life swap - nice kit

[craggy meteor]

Yeah that’s where the real big buffs are for disc

[limber relic]

Think its 0.1% on every spec

[limber relic]

Yes, me

[opaque quarry]

Nvm, fixed the problem, ty.

[limber relic]

👌

[topaz tulip]

trying to play fury into two rets a, an ele, and a lock has been the most toxic experience I've ever had in this game

[limber relic]

Rets are trash rn

[topaz tulip]

two rets gangbanging you while you have the bad healer is also trash

[limber relic]

Bad healer is trash always

[topaz tulip]

I've made it with a bad healer. Barely, but I've made it. But I wasn't making it while these two just kept shield sharing on each other

[old trail]

How's arms vs fury looking after the changes in solo shuffle?

Looking to sprint to 1800

[limber relic]

Havent tried fury but arms looks very good

Gotta love games where fatality just stacks during a long game and then u just execute and end it instantlt xd

[opaque quarry]

I'm bad about keeping Rend up. Haven't Bleed managed in forever lol.

[old trail]

Set looks way too good to lose out on it 😄

[steel trout]

arms set very goood

[crude bane]

first lobby of the day = 3 hunter all 1K5 in my 1K8 lobby

they all getting middle to be sure i cant play

NOICE

this dogshit MMR systeme is pure aid

you have legit 1/3 grifer lobby

to be sure you getting stuck

[steel trout]

i think its skill issue why ur stuck not lobbies

[crude bane]

its the same system as lol

you grind 2 game

then griefer

so you want to reQ

and pay sub

very smart

[steel trout]

[muted surge]

I don’t get it

As long as you win more than you lose you go up

The mmr system seems pretty decent

[topaz tulip]

Lots of people trying to play arms but bad at it. Expect to be focused a lot under the assumption you're a bad arms as well. Self fulfilling prophecy at some point, cuz no mit left and you get blown up like the rest if you can't kill fast enough yourself

Discs making that hard to do.

Arms kit 100% better than fury rn, but fury isn't trash anymore. Just the shit i've gone through with fury would have been far easier to deal with on arms, and I would have done more damage. Slaughterhouse just doesn't feel useful enough. Even with it I"m watching discs full heal someone with one fucking ability.

-if you want my low elo opinion.

[crude bane]

i dunno how its working but every 3 lobby im getting the highest CR with ppl under my lobby sometimes even bleu gear starer ppl

3 hunter lobby imagine this mess

healer playing middle

[topaz tulip]

Means you're losing too much and they're trying to drop you for performing badly in that match. Expect 10-40 points for a win and 70-120 for a loss.

[lean burrow]

sit behind pillar until you get cds

(semi-serious)

[crude bane]

this drop system is so brutal i get 4-2 5-1 then 3-3 two times and the MMR lobby droped by 100

[topaz tulip]

Roll one of each and learn their abilities by using them yourself so you can understand what they're doing. If you learn better by reading, just go through their recommended talent builds/rotations to see what affects what, what to watch out for, and when to hide.

[topaz tulip]

You're preaching to the choir boss. I've lost and gained 400 at a time off this shit. And then if you win too much your lobbies get too big for you. Just before breaking 17 on arms they threw me in a match with 19s and 2ks, and then shock pickachu faced me when I came out 2/4. I lost 76 that round and my next lobby was 1550

[copper hare]

Yeah but also, if you win a couple shuffles in a row, your mmr skyrockets

so keep grinding and you'll be fine, don't look too much at your cr/mmr, will come with time

[topaz tulip]

Honestly just wanna know what my mmr - should - be. I either feel like i'm either trapped in bronze or getting dumpstered by diamond and their alts, and it really doesn't feel like there's anything in between.

Well, and i want my armor. Outside of that I don't really care.

[crude bane]

this is burtal

brutal

[steel trout]

like mave said, play to improve and rating will come 🙂

[crude bane]

with this systeme

[steel trout]

once u realize the system is same for everyone

and putting blame on something you cant effect

it will go faster)

focus on only things you can control

[crude bane]

yeah bro i cant control a healer not linging 2 hunter and get me in a 0-6 position into a - 100 Cr

and i cant improve that aswell

[steel trout]

so then dont focus on it

[crude bane]

this is frustrating

[steel trout]

i guarantee you, that you did mistakes in that game too

[crude bane]

• 100 cr

[steel trout]

focus on that instead

[crude bane]

reQ

30 min

meh

[steel trout]

if u go 0-6

its ur own fault

[crude bane]

yeah probably

[steel trout]

its shitty to have to wait 30 min but it is what it is

[crude bane]

i should cut the internet from this healer

[steel trout]

better u focus ur energy on what u did wrong urself

u played vs him 3 times too 👍

[crude bane]

the other healer did the same so

[steel trout]

record a game

and post it

[crude bane]

ill do next time

duo hunter just control me for ever

i asked him to play around pillar

he simply refuse

[gloomy river]

I saw plenty r1 players loosing 0-6 , sometimes it is just not going whatever you do , doesnt mean its always yor own fault

[crude bane]

its just frustrating to wait 30 min after a bad lobby for you

[topaz tulip]

I think i'm on a different dynamic from unerfed. I think the system is kind of unforgiving, but I also don't really hate it per say. It's a nuisance, but it's also not the worst system I've had to deal with ya know?

[crude bane]

soo much

[steel trout]

yes ofcourse everyone loses but i see same complaint from this guy every time

blaming the system for ur rating is pretty delusional)

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/e96ee6539d6c5571483273d00bb87b3a

also

[topaz tulip]

That 30 could and should be used to chill the fuck out and think about literally anything else. The salt builds faster when you just stew in the shitz

[crude bane]

explain to me how he get into a 1K8 lobby

[steel trout]

mmr init

[crude bane]

if the system is for all

*MMR with negativve W.R

[steel trout]

u can see his mmr after the game

[crude bane]

this is wat i said

[steel trout]

?

whats his mmr then

[topaz tulip]

Winning a lot in a short amount of time.

[crude bane]

MMR healer are a lot under mine sometimes

[steel trout]

thats for everyone rn tho

theres 2.4 healers in 3k+ lobbies

they changed the way healers get games

[crude bane]

aight

[copper hare]

No, obviously not every lobby is perfect for you, totally normal. But if you lose more than you win in general, than it's better to stop blame the mates and start reflecting on yourself. People are just too focused on their stats on lower mmr. There is always this one lobby where you have this one dude which is getting bullied and everyones going 3-3, but if you consisently lose more than you win, than you gotta be start working on yourself

[topaz tulip]

That's real interesting actually

[steel trout]

it was to help dps get faster queues but its a dogshit solution

[clever fern]

Guys, in which cases I should use the arms bleed build?

[tranquil raven]

Can someone tell how bad fury really is doing compared to arms (without considering that it's a very boring spec)?

[copper hare]

you can play fury if you want to, it's not bad. Arms is better, but if you don't like arms or feel like you play it a lot worse than you can play fury aswell

[topaz tulip]

I was talking to someone about it yesterday actually, and I've always thought getting dumpstered in games by people better than you is the best way to learn. Sucks for the people already up top, but the people lower down get better faster.

[steel trout]

it is a good way to learn if u actually try to learn

[steep inlet]

This is you ?

[steel trout]

but most people just want to blame other factors

[topaz tulip]

Second what mave said. Personally prefer fury but I like arms a lot more in this expansion than I did in the past after playing it, so I'm going through the ropes with it. After a while handling arms, I'll drop back to fury and pull it from the shitpile i've left it in.

[tranquil raven]

is one or the other specifically better for 2's with a rsham? ty already anyways

[topaz tulip]

I'm just warning, twos are toxic rn

[copper hare]

Arms if you can play it, but fury can pump aswell after the buffs. Play whatever you like

[tranquil raven]

ty guys

how come toxic?

do you know any streamer to learn some fury from? seems to only be arms right now

[steel trout]

exzistance plays fury a bit

not really in 2s though

[topaz tulip]

rouge/disc and lock/disc pop up a lot lower down rn. It's kinda hard to keep up without your healer dying. Can't do a lot to help them as a war, and after a while rouges/lock damage is too much cuz dampening. At least, that's my experience. Just depends on how easily you can shred them. Sometimes that is easy. Sometimes it's horrifying.

[topaz tulip]

You can correct me if i've got a wrong mindset on this one

I could have just typed @. lol.

[copper hare]

Depends what you play with, rsham is just though in general right now specially when assa is meta

[topaz tulip]

I've been doing it with an evok. Considering swapping to dh for 2's just to see if the damage will help crack some of these teams, or finish lvling my own disc.

Thinking disc would be better anyway cuz these 30 min q's got me tired

[lucid walrus]

nightmare damage profile

[steep inlet]

Kited I guess

[lucid walrus]

also an fdk, unholy and destro in this lobby

backhanding pets & stuff

[floral seal]

Is there a reason to use slam in pvp? Feel like I dont press it at all so am i missing something or

[crude bane]

it was a healer in my WW lobby both team tunneled him and went 3-3

[steel trout]

not really no

kill totems with it ig

[crude bane]

is the meta going 0 6 when you get stuck drop CR / MMR and then try to 6 0 all lobby

?

[steel trout]

the meta is to win more than u lose 👍

[elfin surge]

cock.

[steel trout]

[topaz tulip]

Wait so, even if everything else is on cd it's not worth the rage you spend?

[steel trout]

better rend or hamstring

[topaz tulip]

fair

[elfin surge]

slam is a totem killer

[dark sparrow]

if you play ms build and use unhinged, you still use blademaster's right?

[hot solstice]

Is legend infinite title or u need to get it every season?

Did they fix 100 legend wins while in low cr spec?

[topaz tulip]

If the gods themselves say it I guess it must be so

[wheat jay]

ms is psyfiend killer tho

cuz that shit has shitton of hp and they put barrier on it...

[warm portal]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

can just press rend on a totem

it does more initial dmg anyways

[opaque quarry]

If you're going Spear/MS, I am assuming it would be better to do verse/crit gems over haste?

[warm portal]

Yes

You have increased crit dmg while standing inside your spear, that's how you drop the big bombs

[opaque quarry]

Dope. Changing up my stuff from Fury pvp .-. Now I gotta figure out what gear I want to swap.

[grand scaffold]

WE GUCCI

[worn yoke]

What software do you guys recommend to do screen recordings?

[grand scaffold]

probably nvidia shadowplay

otherwise obs

[worn yoke]

Ty

[grand scaffold]

dang

i was playing against/with you?

[torpid nexus]

what build does everyone play with atm

[grand scaffold]

who were you playing as lmao

oh shit thats from my screenshot

😂 😂

[kindred viper]

I gotta say, it's refreshing to see a positive attitude in SS @grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

😄

[warm portal]

You'll often observe positive attitudes when people are climbing lol

See how it changes when its tanking

[kindred viper]

i try to be positive whenever i can, no use getting mad since it just makes things worse.

Mind you this is after years of raging in online games ^^

[turbid ember]

But it's easier to rage at my team than get humbled

[grand scaffold]

i just lost 100 cr in solo shuffle because of destro warlock and a bad evoker

ima get it back

[quiet python]

Since the talents have changed, what would you recommend arms?

[grand scaffold]

destro warlock are literally bullies

[inner sigil]

Anyone know of a good rotation against melee pvp

as fury

[steel trout]

look pins

[grand scaffold]

yo menace

what build are you running?

[grand scaffold]

is piercing verdict not worth it?

[steel trout]

is good

[grand scaffold]

2x wildstrike better?

[steel trout]

prob not idk

[grand scaffold]

did you get your cr back?

[steel trout]

yes i got it back before buffs

didnt play much yet

[grand scaffold]

nice

wish me some luck i gotta break this streak

[steel trout]

u got it bigman 💯

[grand scaffold]

😄

[grand scaffold]

appreciate it bigger man

[karmic turtle]

I'm guessing the pinned talent builds are only arena aimed? QQ

[lean burrow]

isn't piercing verdict just

15k extra damage on spear

and some rage

[grand scaffold]

😎

[grand scaffold]

we back

[steel trout]

big boorst next game and u got ur 2.4

[grand scaffold]

yeah man

wish me luck

😄

[steel trout]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-you-got-this-you-can-do-it-you-can-do-this-suerte-gif-18340019

[grand scaffold]

Thanks!

[karmic turtle]

😦

[craggy quest]

guys, in my vault i have gloves tierset, gladiator chest, and gladiator gloves. At the moment, i have 0 tierset item and full 340 pvp items. In your opinion, what i have to choose ?

i think i have to take the chest and go to the catalyst for change to chest tierset

what do you think about that ?

[lilac rivet]

Gladi chest might he Most profitable

[craggy quest]

(sry about my bad english my loves)

thx @lilac rivet , and i changed it for tierset chest, right ?

Or it s a mistake ?

[severe basin]

same

[tranquil raven]

Trying some fury, do you wear the 2set bonus or no?

[severe basin]

i had a holy paladin today bop himself instead of bubble when he was getting hard trained in the opener

when i asked next round he told me it was a mispress i just told him its all good, mistakes happen

better not stressing out your team just push on

[lilac rivet]

Since Set chest also got Vers it might be okay to do that, yes.

But les Vers then gladi chest so May wait Till next week when you can geht second item for bonus

[craggy quest]

yes i understand, thank you very much !

[sour folio]

What spec are people doing in RBG? just spear MS build?

[grand scaffold]

anotha one

@steel trout

wish me more luck

😄

[modern grail]

no pressure bro don't fuck this up

[grand scaffold]

yah

[modern grail]

you got it. we were S tier for a few hours after the reset lul

[grand scaffold]

😄

[long ridge]

@grand scaffold what addon is that that shows your big cooldowns

[grand scaffold]

tellmewhen

its awesome

[long ridge]

Thanks

Did you configure it or is it right out the box

[grand scaffold]

i configured it it isnt hard tho

very straight forward

[queen peak]

Do you prefer it to Weakauras? I find WA packages too cluttered

[grand scaffold]

i still use weakauras

for mes cd's

but setting stuff up on my own in weakauras is just a no

[queen peak]

Yeah I'd use WA for other things like that, I was referring to packages like Luxthos and etc. I keep trying them but they feel too cluttered. The tellmewhen thing looks nice and simply though so I may try that

[grand scaffold]

dont use luxthos

its so big

[hollow ore]

Get it bossman

[grand scaffold]

😄

thanks man!

[tepid hearth]

gl homie, i had a terrible day and lost 180 rating, trying back for the climb to 2200

[grand scaffold]

wish me some serious luck

[little lava]

is lariat good for pvp?

[lean burrow]

feels like just pressing parry on tip scales wins you the game

[little lava]

cuz head seems kinda trash

or am i wrong

[lean burrow]

can't tip scales be purged like similar buffs?

[long ridge]

@grand scaffold good luck! what addon on shows party cooldowns?

[grand scaffold]

fuck

didnt win 1 round with that priest

he cant handle using cooldowns

maybe i call it a day?

or continue playing

[steep cairn]

Gladiusex

[long ridge]

I know gladius does it like the ones in the bottom right but they have it where it looks little blizzard frames too?

[grand scaffold]

omnicd

you guys think i should take a break and get rating later?

im being bullied by destro locks and bad healers atm

[steel trout]

Perhaps

[grand scaffold]

ok

[steep cairn]

Better to take a break than to get tilted and lose more rating like me lol

[modern grail]

wow I should have watched this when I opened the tab the other day. wouldn't have thought about this but big info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haPFuGqkpa0

[open glacier]

PvP can drop sparks?

[barren vale]

Just world pvp in the active zone afaik

[grand scaffold]

ima go hard in a few hours and get 2400

time to go do bicep curls i got weights

[thick reef]

normal activity's for chad arms warrior mains

meaning all of us who main arms

[steep cairn]

Warr stronk

[thick reef]

truee

[steep cairn]

Make sure you do the world quests in the zone with WM on and you’ll be halfway there. Opposite faction kills give one spark per

[steep cairn]

Thanks for posting this, I’m big dumb warr zug zug didn’t notice this too busy mashing MS

[thick reef]

lmao same its act insane

[open glacier]

sorry, CRAFTING sparks, not weekly sparks

[modern grail]

gotchu homie

[open glacier]

can we get them by pvp? or only raid

[thick reef]

i watched it when it first came out but

i forgot it so many times

[modern grail]

do yall show buffs on nameplates or just use bigdebuffs?

[elfin surge]

[modern grail]

annoying that the target dummies don't work to practice this. TD is just showing normal mortal wounds rather than the sharpen icon when i use sharpen. does that only show in pvp?

[steep cairn]

The animated duelist dummy doesn’t even show hamstring with the default UI

[modern grail]

l m a o

[thick reef]

yea its so dumb

[modern grail]

for opener we MS before CS for Deep Wounds right?

[worthy fern]

That seems like a really bad way to gain minor Dmg increase

[lean burrow]

don't have to

[steep cairn]

ust did a little scan of the forums and most people are saying loose dirt piles, raid bosses, m+ loot. But maybe the victorious contender’s strongboxes? The sparks aren’t on the “contains” tab on wowhead but there’s not much data out there rn on exactly where they drop

[lean burrow]

cs should apply deep wounds before damage

[worthy fern]

Cause then Ms is on cooldown

[modern grail]

ahh ok

[worthy fern]

Gaining 12 percent Dmg on csmash wouldn’t be big anyways

[lean burrow]

i don't know, but if it doesn't it's giga dumb

[modern grail]

lmao either way it's a diff of like 10k dam. eh

[open glacier]

can disc priest get a nerf already? ffs

[lean burrow]

i'm leveling disc and after patch i got 150k mana on it

up from 50k

[spice hornet]

all i fight is spell cleaves

unfun

[trail hamlet]

anyone have a 424 ring? whats the stam on it

[hazy isle]

i would have liked 20/20 d stance more than getting ip back, imo

[slim yoke]

TLDR, this is my first xpac maining Warrior. I've only played Fury, should I just rip the bandaid off and switch to Arms?

[hollow ore]

Not if you enjoy fury

Whats with all the fotm rerolling in df jesus

[spice hornet]

yeah its really bad

too easy to pvp gear

too get*

[hollow ore]

Well im all for it

At least its nowhere near as bad as SL

[spice hornet]

arms still feels so fucking bad into a caster shuffle

literally just spend 90% of the game running or jsut dying

[cinder thorn]

We get rage from damage recieved right? If so how much

[slim yoke]

I know it comes across as FOTM reroll. It's really not though, I've never played Arms. And I definitely don't want to switch just because it's "better"

It's just more of a "is my overall experience going to be better/easier" if I switch? But knowing full well that 90% of it is just gamesense.

[mild thunder]

100%

i feel like an unbeatable gigachad into all melee lobbies

and the moment i see that destro, sp, ele lobby i feel cucked

[coral axle]

You can definitely play fury right now, it seems fine after the buffs

It's good in low rating especially

[slim yoke]

Kinda what I thought. I've only played one match since buffs, just haven't had the time

[warm portal]

Queing into a 3 caster lobby makes you wanna quit lmao

[modern grail]

was infurious helm nerfed? mine didn't do shit in a dh dk feral lobby

[coral axle]

It's only fair man, trying to play caster into triple melee is the same

[mild thunder]

yea but who cares about casters

[spice hornet]

ele/spriest/demo barely have to cast tho lol

frost mage too

[dense rover]

how much conquest can u get each week? im capped now

[spice hornet]

550

[mild thunder]

shouldnt even call them casters anymore

they're proccers

[spice hornet]

lmao good point

new classification

[barren vale]

This is not a problem. Gearing an alt where you get fucked just because PvP gear is hard to get and you are low ilvl for dozens of games is a terrible experience. If people want to re-roll I say let them.

[spice hornet]

caster (think affy lock, boomy), proccer (ele, spriest), melee

yeah the gearing ffast is not a problem, the fotm community in this game is

gearing just makes it easy, at least in SL you had to get 9 ranks of duelist

[mild thunder]

and surprise, surprise, not many of the true casters are actually meta

[barren vale]

Like I started my warrior a couple weeks ago and I'm at 417 ilvl in PvP (it's my usual alt, though I did speed up the process because of the Arms buffs lol)

[mild thunder]

unfortunately i dont think there's anything blizz can do about the fotm community... even in a world where pvp is near-perfectly balanced, the majority of the playerbase will flock to the top 2-3 specs

[barren vale]

It's nice to have a streamlined gearing process. Fwiw PvE gearing is not so hard either, especially with catalysts.

[warm portal]

I've get an ele and it doesn't feel horrible. I'm sure its worse for like warlock or mage

[mild thunder]

and when you have people like supatease dropping the umpteenth tier list of the season every week, it just fuels the meta-slaved nature of pvp

[dense rover]

when i make infurious heln of vengeance, what is that "Infuse with Power"?

[coral axle]

yeah I play lock and its definitely fucked

[high sparrow]

arena would be a lot more fun if it was just healer / caster / melee

[coral axle]

demo gets a bit of a pass by having pet stun but the other two specs are pain

[high sparrow]

but not very realistic

double melee and double caster are both cancer

[barren vale]

If people re-roll every time there is a new top class, they'll usually be slightly behind those that main it

[copper hare]

Holy shit bm hunter is retarded again

1.4k max hunter are 2.7k in solo shuffle

by just pressing 12

[steel trout]

Its been a bit sleeper

No 🧢

[barren vale]

So it's accessible but those that have put in the time will have maxed out gear and tier instead of merely competitive gear.

[mild thunder]

yay

[spice hornet]

i was QQing about BM couple weeks ago, their damage is lowkey absurd

just haven't seen enough cause they were all playing dh/spriest

[copper hare]

people dont complain because BM dmg is bugged in details

[coral axle]

didnt BM get played a ton at AWC? tho some of that might be the bow

[copper hare]

but take a look at the end of the match scoreboard

[spice hornet]

yeah it's insane

[copper hare]

I did 30k and hunter outdamaged me

by just doing single target

[spice hornet]

im scared of any potential hunter buffs

will send BM over the top

[mild thunder]

the only hunter spec that should be viable is sv

[dense rover]

when i craft taht infurious helm, does the mats have to be the tier 3 quality to get better ilvl? or doesnt it matter?

[spice hornet]

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[coral axle]

^^^^^^^^^^^

[modern grail]

just got blasted into dh surv fmage. when a dh is on your healer or other dps do you pressure him or switch target to avoid cleave?

[worthy fern]

@dense rover only if you care about pve gear

[dense rover]

idgaf pve

[barren vale]

Any prospective PvP changes for next week yet? Rogues gutted?

[copper hare]

never

blizz will never gut rogues

and even if assa gets another nerf

outlaw is s tier aswell with tier

[mild thunder]

if outlaw becomes the meta again im gonna quit the game

i dont want that shit again

[muted surge]

Then just craft the cheapest. Doesn’t matter in pvp at all

[slender lion]

is 421 PVE tier good instead of 424 pvp gear?

[copper hare]

cant win shuffles with the healer change

why are 1.7k healers in a 2.6 lobby

thats so cringe

[mild thunder]

yea my first fury game yesterday was me at 0cr in a lobby with all 2400 players

got 350 rating for 5 wins tho

[muted surge]

Are both heals the same rating or can it be 1.7 vs 2.5v?

[copper hare]

lobby mmr was 2.6

one heal was 1.7, the other one 2.2

xd

they did this so dps get faster queues but

you cant play arms war with bad healers

it doesnt work

[steep inlet]

yep

at 2.4 mmr i have same prob

[spice hornet]

ARMS SHUFF is such a struggle

serenity FoF spam is so aids with the parry

[slender lion]

arms still better than fury then?

[muted surge]

That doesn’t seem balanced

[mild thunder]

just bolt the fists bro

[thick reef]

ye

[slender lion]

cool

can i wear

421 pve tier?

for pvp

[mild thunder]

for 2p its probably worth to drop 3 ilvl

but not for all 4 pieces

[slender lion]

cool thanks, thats what ive done. ty

[smoky anchor]

bro. it's so fucking annoying. i just ignore WW monks now.

[slender lion]

for some reason i cant use my strife trophys

[smoky anchor]

the cd on FOF is like 2 seconds

my problem lately isn't that i've been dying

i've been getting decently ignored

but my teammates die fast now

lol

just gotta kill faster i guess

[slender lion]

anyone had issues using strife? macicia doesnt have a shop option for me atm

[smoky anchor]

this devoker literally got a double kill last night like 20s into the match, almost got a triple with the last person at like 5% health. we were all full

[smoky anchor]

temporarily disabled i believe.

[slender lion]

why do u know?

[smoky anchor]

90% of the time a DH will pop blur the moment you hit him with a single fat MS, so that's what i would do, then kill them in a stun right after that

[smoky anchor]

there was a bug (apparently only a display/tooltip bug) where you could upgrade to 474 ilvl.