pvp

[turbid ember]

That's still just shitty damage with no utility

[limber relic]

its just a filler

[turbid ember]

Why does it have to be filler

[limber relic]

thats what it is for

[cinder thorn]

Slam launches enemies in opposite direction so I can chuck people off cliffs and hills

[onyx hinge]

slam steals day of game time from enemy

[turbid ember]

You think too small

[limber relic]

im just saying what the ability is for, what its designed as.

no need to remake it as a utility x)

[cinder thorn]

How can a strong warrior not be able to push someone over a cliff when little kitties, moonkins, trees, hunters, squishy mages etc can do it

[turbid ember]

We're talking about changes for it but you want to keep it as a filler

[limber relic]

lol

i was talking about how bad it is and taht ppl replace it with rend cuz rend does more dmg

and u wna remake it into a utility :p

[turbid ember]

Better than not using it ever

[cinder thorn]

Pick up and Slam someone into the ground 10 yards away or something

[turbid ember]

I like Borhanixs energy

[limber relic]

na, that would defeat the whole purpose of the ability

u need a rage dump

a filler

something u do when uc ant do anything else

not another utility

[cinder thorn]

Yes that's a rage dump

Imagine how good you will feel after doing it

Much rage gone

[turbid ember]

"whole purpose of the ability"

The purpose of the ability can be whatever the fuck you want

[limber relic]

um...not rly but ok

[cinder thorn]

Pick up enemy healer, throw them behind you into your team

Pick up pesky melee dps and throw them off the cliff or away from your squishy team mates

Very warrior

Slam slam slam

[queen peak]

I feel like thematically, Slam as a stun makes more sense than Storm Bolt. What, all of a sudden we have thor powers? Thunderclap can be reasoned as the warrior slamming down so hard the particle energy releases.

[limber relic]

it used to stun

[cinder thorn]

Rogue comes to say cap LM, pick him up throw him off the cliff SLAM

[limber relic]

once upon a time

if i remember it correctly

or was it cs

dont remmeber

[woeful night]

How is arms vs assa

[limber relic]

assa wreck everything

[tribal sedge]

im thinking about trying arms after my ret got shreked is it good in solos?

[queen peak]

I'd say yeah

[limber relic]

unless casters

[queen peak]

Plus its way more fun smashing people with weapons instead of flashlighting them to death

[tribal sedge]

same applies to any melee tho i guess

[turbid ember]

Paladin is pseudo melee

[limber relic]

not assa/dk

dh

[wispy cedar]

innit

[limber relic]

i swear i sit in cc day in and out against casters

[queen peak]

Just LoS them bro

./s

[limber relic]

just 4head

just click heads

[grand scaffold]

quick questions

question*

is sks running haste or crit

[cinder thorn]

Nice deep wounds

[limber relic]

nerf deep wounds

[cinder thorn]

Wtf is 5k its not even worth being in the game

[turbid ember]

They should give that dummy vers

[cinder thorn]

Then it becomes 2k

[limber relic]

kekw

[cinder thorn]

Dude you cropped out the important abilities who cares about MS

[limber relic]

ido

[grand scaffold]

is sks haste or crit

[cinder thorn]

Use slam noob, MS is for the totem kill macro

[limber relic]

cs totem

i belive sks is haste

[urban skiff]

but if i use my mouse to turn how do i click on rend

[cinder thorn]

When you see totem

Hamstring -> Sharpen sword -> mortal strike, bladestorm gg

[turbid ember]

You use the arrow key to back up then click rend

[cinder thorn]

Use arrow keys to turn then w and you click mouse on rend

It's called multitasking

[limber relic]

i never kill totems

not worth my time

dmg waste

[cinder thorn]

200k MS on totem then /flex

[teal cedar]

how much hp do totems have?

[cinder thorn]

It varies

[sharp meteor]

Depends on the totem.

Usually you can chop them with a single strike.

[vital quarry]

Hey boys, i didn't see in the pins. What enchants are you rolling as fury?

[queen peak]

[Enchant Weapon] Switch Spec to Arms-otion

In all seriousness I ran double frozen when I was still on Fury but I'm not sure if its changed

[kindred sedge]

whats up with the mastery hate here?

[queen peak]

Just the least valuable right now

[vital quarry]

Alright. thanks @queen peak

[queen peak]

Yeah I don't know if it was intended or hotfixed but in the beginning of the season Frozen was doing a significant portion of fury's damage

[worthy fern]

@kindred sedge mastery is ass assuming you mean arms

[grand scaffold]

we gucci bruh

[low cobalt]

do you think the arms buffs made a difference?

grats btw

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[low cobalt]

💪

[grand scaffold]

💪

uh

dmg feels just about the same

burst a little less impactful

but ignore pain is helping a lot

and having ep and unhinged at the same time is nice

[low cobalt]

cool, thats roughly been my experience as well

[grand scaffold]

i was 2250 before so if i get past that ill let you know if the buffs have helped

[low cobalt]

oh lol ok i thought u just hit 2100

[grand scaffold]

oh nah ive just dropped below 2200 like 3-4 times

ask anybody how much ive ranted

😂

[grand scaffold]

i appreciate it tho

😄

what cr are you at?

[low cobalt]

1400 🙂

just trying to get the mog

[vapid rover]

hey all, did you know how can i write this macro:
when i press key: it /use scatter throw or wrecking throw (depends of wich is known with the [known:]), then when i press alt+key i use heroic throw

[grand scaffold]

are you on NA?

[vapid rover]

it is possible ?

[low cobalt]

ye NA

[grand scaffold]

aight

once im done pushing solo shuffle

ill add you and help you out

🙂

[low cobalt]

ooooo double warr?

or u have a healer lol

[grand scaffold]

mainly duels then ill tell you whats going wrong

[low cobalt]

oh sick that'd be awesome

👍

[grand scaffold]

sent you my btag

[vapid rover]

actualy i try to make this working
#showtooltip
/cancelaura Tempête de lames
/use [mod:alt]Lancer héroïque;[known:Lancer destructeur]Lancer destructeur[known:Lancer fracassant]Lancer Fracassant

but only the [mod:alt]heroic throw is working

[red condor]

Bruh can I come to those duels? I'm a 1 week old warrior

[grand scaffold]

sure

🙂

itll be in some time tho

playing solo shuffle atm

[worthy fern]

Has anyone played games with both spear and roar while giving up signet?

[flat tide]

Anyone know if there's an addon that shows other players gcds?

[red condor]

Np. I'm around all day. PM'd you btag

[grand scaffold]

cool

[vapid rover]

its possible to group between EU and NA player ?

[flat tide]

Don't think so

[teal cedar]

anyone know what addon this is?

[vapid rover]

(seems obvious maybe but i never try x))

[vapid rover]

Gladius

[teal cedar]

thx

[vapid rover]

GladiusEx to be accurate (its the "new" name)

[teal cedar]

ah ok thats what i have, he mjust have customized it

[vapid rover]

i think yeah

[tribal sedge]

can i make a macro that uses shatter/wreck depending on which one is specced?

[teal cedar]

#showtooltip /cast [known:Wrecking Throw] Wrecking Throw; [known:Shattering Throw] Shattering Throw

[thorn sleet]

i don't think you need the second [known]

just the first one

[tribal sedge]

thanks ill try it

[thorn sleet]

it'll work either way it's just bloat.

[grand scaffold]

WE GUCCI

[full quiver]

2400 in bound

[grand scaffold]

😎

[full quiver]

seems like it still groups people with lower rated healers

have you noticed faster queue time @grand scaffold ?

i was thinking they did that to make it quicker

[grand scaffold]

yes

[full quiver]

neat

[swift hornet]

Is bloodletting worth running for just rend? Or is it only worth if you have dragon roar as well

[tribal sedge]

is there a WA for fatality?

[mystic barn]

i have gotten any low rated healers yet

balanced lobby everyone was 2600 still

maybe its just luck

saw flark get a 2600 healer in 3k lobby last night tho

[left laurel]

My healers have been Helen Keller cosplayers all day

[turbid ember]

Healers have it rough ranking up

[grand scaffold]

they have faster ques than us

[turbid ember]

But when a DPS goes 0 wins. Healers at best go 3/3 while other dps go 4/2

[silver karma]

mhm im pumping way more with bleed build

[turbid ember]

But can you close out the game with it as good as non-sks

[barren vale]

I think MUD is running both. Additionally, bloodletting also buffs deep wounds, which is additional damage and helps your FBV heals if you are using that.

[crimson onyx]

I see a lot of top SS players are going Bleed build

[barren vale]

If you aren't speccing into bleeds I think you have enough extra points that it's worth it

Bloodletting, I mean. FBV is fine too for some extra heal sustain. Not great but few better options out there without a bleed build.

[tulip sail]

do you want to refresh rend before using skullsplitter?

[turbid ember]

Id imagine so

[steel trout]

yes

fuck sks tho 💯

[turbid ember]

True

[hot solstice]

Idk where all of u get those 2nd haste based gear set…especially after how popular crit build was

[crude bane]

1800 lobby some healer have 1K5 MMR or lower

so he got 0 6 i get 3-3

same lobby after

ti go 3 3

then my MMR dropped

by 80

so i have higher CR i go 2-4 bad lobby for me - 60

nice

this is the sign to play healer i guess

they'ill grind CR anyway

also i tunnel all healer now

[red condor]

I feel so gott damn squishy as arms. I sit in defensive stance, I spam ignore pain, but if I'm kill target I feel like I'm running for my life 90% of the time. I'm ass low CR -1400 and the healers aren't great but it's on me to figure this out to climb.

[turbid ember]

Probably need to position better

Or better use of war banner/disarm

I usually use leap as an escape

[red condor]

I know there isn't a hard and fast rule but what's a general good time to be looking to drop warbanner?

[turbid ember]

Opener

[red condor]

Oh I'm holding it way too late then

[turbid ember]

It's all fresh DR, everyone looking to CC in the beginning

[steel trout]

use it for example ur healer is getting ccd and u cant stop it

😎

[turbid ember]

Yeah if you hear/see CC probably just use it after opener

As a general rule

[tribal sedge]

i got put in a lobby with 3 mages

im going 1-5

[turbid ember]

Get improved spell reflect at least

[red condor]

My mentality was "hold it for when things get dicey" which is usually later. DRs are already in effect by then. You made a very good point

Improved spell reflect?

[turbid ember]

That's a valid point to use it when it's a clutch play. A little harder to recognize but definitely do that later too

[steel trout]

yes ideally u use it before drs)

[turbid ember]

It's a pvp talent

[quick ivy]

Someone got a good Rend wa?

[steel trout]

mage going for poly on ur healer > u cant stop > banner b4 it lands

[turbid ember]

It's not called improved spell reflect

I don't remember the name

[steel trout]

that talent some dogshit

[turbid ember]

Well if you go against 3 mages I mean

[red condor]

oh rebound

[turbid ember]

3 mages and a priest healer or something. What else would you pick

[steel trout]

warbringer/storm even improved rally

duel even

[turbid ember]

Duel that mage lol

[grand scaffold]

with a broken mouse

WE GUCCI

[turbid ember]

I didn't lose rating last night, we def getting nerfed

[urban skiff]

anyone have a list of what nullifying shroud exactly protects against?

[steel trout]

loss of control effects 👍

aka cc

[silver karma]

im insta dying as arms

thats normal? 😄

or is it honor gear

[wet vault]

For me it's normal, but it's cause I suck

Also, is it just me, or do Devokers hit really fucking hard lol?

[steel trout]

yes

[silver karma]

mhm

might reroll 😄

[wet vault]

Hell naw..

[steel trout]

coward

[wet vault]

Maybe

[silver karma]

no idea what i can do

in solo shuffle they just destroy me xD

[wet vault]

It'll probably get nerfed by the time I gear it lmao.

[urban skiff]

does that count charge/warbringer? kicks?

[wet vault]

Rather git gud

[silver karma]

even if im highest dps no idea how to survive

[steel trout]

no roots does not work

here i will google it for u!

[red condor]

Scroll up. People just helped me with that exact question

[urban skiff]

wait does that mean a rogue can just sap sap sap through it?

[steel trout]

yes

[red condor]

Most evokers will cast shroud early in an arena. It lasts 30s. I like to just wait it out

[urban skiff]

anything rsham fury can do besides wait it out?

[steel trout]

yes

ur sham can purge it

[urban skiff]

what

[vital breach]

Purge Purge purge

[urban skiff]

for real?

[steel trout]

yes

[red condor]

Sham has to purge 3 times

It removes a charge each purge

[steel trout]

1 purge per stack

[tribal sedge]

went 3-3 in 3 mage lobby not bad

horrible experience tho

[red condor]

Also Devokers hit hard in dragon rage. Outside of it they do decent sustain and cleave. They are also paper thin

Like a mouse sneeze will make a devoker fall over

[cloud veldt]

we need more pvp dummies that aren;''t always at deaths door

[red condor]

Don't previous expansion cities have em

[urban skiff]

I don't think my sham has purge

keep losing to mw monks who put up shields against my burst

maybe I need demo+throw instead

[spice hornet]

so many bad fotm arms man

lol

just qing my alt in 3s

[urban skiff]

not all bad players are fotm

some of us are just natural

[steel trout]

wym

[turbid ember]

I wanna see devoker warrior team

And whatever healer

[muted surge]

buff war surviability

[turbid ember]

Put IP on 1 sec CD and cost 5 rage

[muted surge]

i just went vs ele and demo

[turbid ember]

Also no longer affected by dampen

[muted surge]

why do eles do double my dps?

withotu casting :D

[crimson onyx]

because they mostly insta cast

[turbid ember]

It's dumb

[hot solstice]

Cause healer doesn’t dispel f shock

[turbid ember]

True, healer needs to eat the dispell protection

[rare ibex]

Does Sharpen Blade put a debuff on target? Once I cast the spell, and apply mortal strike, I can't see any indication on the target?

[muted surge]

is there a dispell protection from ele?

[turbid ember]

It looks like regular ms iirc

Dispelling flame shock does like 30k damage and knocks you up

[muted surge]

ah i see

[rare ibex]

I'm trying to create a weakaura that combines executioner's precision, improved overpower, and sharpen blade... but unlike the other two which add a buff, I can't see anything left behind by sharpen

[muted surge]

also against demo

do you not play BS at all ?

[steel trout]

It does

[rare ibex]

so regular MS leaves behind "Mortal Wounds" and "Deep Wounds". Sharpen + MS applies the same debuffs

[turbid ember]

Idk if you can differentiate between the improved MS or not. I'm guessing there's a way

[muted surge]

i would assume its a differnt spell id?

[rare ibex]

Hmm maybe so, thanks for the tip

Like maybe it's the same name with a different ID

[urban skiff]

start a timer when losing sharpen blade and casting ms or make it read the variable on ms on target

[turbid ember]

Does wowhead have the spell ids?

[kindred sedge]

Couldn't you do some kind of logic for if you have sharpen blade buff and apply MS while its active, track MS?

[rare ibex]

It's a little tough to do with my basic knowledge of multi-trigger displays. If I can't find a unique buff/debuff, it might be the only way.

Looks like it might just modify Mortal Wounds to be 50% instead of 25%. The tooltip on MS changes, but it's buggy af for me... sometimes perma showing 50% even without Sharpen.

[kindred sedge]

i think Protean's approach might be the easiest

track sharpen blade and apply a timer for the duration when its removed

[mild laurel]

is the Spear + MS build that is pinned, recommended for doing RBGs?

for arms

[kindred sedge]

it will perform just fine. I personally would consider taking roar as well if you are facing a melee cleave type team.

[mild laurel]

ah ok

is that the second build that is listed? or just take the first, and modify it to get roar?

[quick ivy]

Someone here useing Uberui?

[kindred sedge]

first, you can just drop some points for roar if you want it

[quick ivy]

Interface/AddOns/Uber UI/core/miscframes.lua:64: attempt to index field 'BottomBarFrameTexture' (a nil value)

How can i fix this

[mild laurel]

great, thanks

[urban skiff]

you guys ever chase when you should pace?

how do you keep yourself from chasing?

[kindred sedge]

BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIaJkkkQSSalSkAAAAAQkIQCUEBkkIJhiEhEASkAAAAAAAAQCJIAEFEA

Opinions on this cleave build anyone?

ran it in RBG's last night and was absolutely pumping in team fights

[urban skiff]

damage might be high, but what matters is securing kills. Be careful you don't see big numbers and think that makes a spec best

[kindred sedge]

Well, you still have plenty of pressure with MS for ST so no problems there imo

Have a version with spear as well that performs almost the same

the 50% bonus to cleave from bladestorm makes cleaves hit for like 80k

[mild thunder]

Investing in cleave is a massive waste imo

Also

For fucks sake

Take improved execute

And if I see another fucking build without it I’m gonna rage

[kindred sedge]

Lmao, well i was running with another arms war so he was mainly the executer

[muted surge]

that doesnt make sense

[urban skiff]

rate my improved execute

[wet vault]

2 executes are better than 1

[mild thunder]

The only real aoe that you want for your rbg build is thunder clap and warbreaker

The rest is teamfight pad

[kindred sedge]

Idk man, the cleaves get pretty big with the bonegrinder bonus.

[urban skiff]

should i be doing something with execute talents in fury with 4set?

[kindred sedge]

hit as hard as MS

[mild thunder]

200k?

[kindred sedge]

Granted its only a 18s window combined with avatar and BS

[torpid prawn]

ms crits for 180k+

you're saying bonegrinder hits for those numbers?

[kindred sedge]

200k? 180k? Please shoe me pictures.

[torpid prawn]

i've hit ms crit

180k multpie times

[kindred sedge]

show me

[torpid prawn]

it's not that rare..

[kindred sedge]

Im just sayin show me

[mild thunder]

I posted mine yesterday

[rare ibex]

Yeah it's not rare. I got hit by a 150k MS by another arms today.

[kindred sedge]

honestly i just havent ever seen it that high

[mild thunder]

As did lukeypooky

[kindred sedge]

i've hit 150k sure

[torpid prawn]

sure when i hop on the game i'll try and screen cap but im tellin gyou

it' really isn't that rare

[crude bane]

MS crit 170 k dummy 50K on ppl plz explain

[torpid prawn]

it was on a dummy

[kindred sedge]

i mean on dummy yeah for sure

[torpid prawn]

real life

100-130

[kindred sedge]

thats more like it

[crude bane]

no

[rare ibex]

Nope.

[crude bane]

never 130 K

never

literally

[torpid prawn]

?! i have seen screen shots

[rare ibex]

Literally happens in the wild.

[torpid prawn]

of folks critting 130

[copper hare]

Hit a 130k non crit on a monk already

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/fac69424f647efd678241fbf7e04e556

[kindred sedge]

I mean 130 is at least plausible to me. but 150-200k? no fucking way

[torpid prawn]

i dont get

why this is so surprising

[mild thunder]

200k or so

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/023ec6b595ba9d3f8ea7075cf4f9b408

the max i did

[kindred sedge]

To be specific, show me a 200k ms crit on someone with 30% vers in 424 gear

[torpid prawn]

arms are overtuned right now and will get nerfed for sure. but as of now ms crits hard

[mild thunder]

Yep, mine was in a solo shuffle game

[crude bane]

idk i feel like i dealing 0 no1 is dying

i have to setup for 3 hour for a dog 50K non crit ms

[warm portal]

I've hit a 160k ms on somebody

[crude bane]

meanwhil i crit for 120K straight on my ww

0 setup

i do somethign wrong

but i dont know wat

[kindred sedge]

On somebody sure, but were they pvp geared?

[mild thunder]

Yes

[warm portal]

Yes

[torpid prawn]

lolll

[rare ibex]

I literally got hit with a 150k MS in PVP gear. They weren't even buffed by other players. Granted I'm missing like 3 pieces of 424 gear, but it happens.

[torpid prawn]

it happens bro

[mild thunder]

It’s really not that rare

[torpid prawn]

arms are overtuned

it isn't that rare

[crude bane]

feelslike warrior dont fit me

[warm portal]

I've hit a 135k with only a single overpower stack lmao

[crude bane]

man i dont know how you do that

[mild thunder]

Yea I’ve hit 100k with no overpower or EP lmao

[crude bane]

i fucking dealing so low damage

[mild thunder]

Just shake your camera right when you burst

Extra damage I swear

[torpid prawn]

lmao

[crude bane]

max crit in this lobby 88 K

[copper hare]

https://gyazo.com/6d7b0d613ed22625ff0051d42d36b813

Gotta train your ms more

[rare ibex]

It's not super easy, but it happens. 2x Executioner's Precision + 2x Improved Overpower + Sharpen == massive MS.

[crude bane]

even the spear bro

i deal 0

[kindred sedge]

wtf how you normal hit for 120k

and crit for less than 50k

[urban skiff]

my best burst happened offscreen. Got some weird bug where my fps drops to 5 whenever rogues are around. Caught 2 frames of bladestorm and heard the sound of my executes. Then silence

[copper hare]

With CDs on a monk and without everything on his disc

[mild thunder]

Yep I’ve had the same fps issue against feral

[torpid prawn]

i have never heard of this before

[crude bane]

im so bad at warrior how it be possible

[urban skiff]

had it against rogues too, 100% related to stealth

[crude bane]

literaly the easiest rotation

[urban skiff]

I'm hardstuck at 1399

in 2s

[torpid prawn]

unerfed, are you fury?

[crude bane]

nah arms

[warm portal]

@digital ether

From a week ago

[crude bane]

well i dont have the part aswell

but 80 crit ms

comon

[dark sparrow]

If you crit into a shield, it shows as non crit on details

[mild thunder]

Pre 5% nerf, doesn’t count!!!!!

[warm portal]

[kindred sedge]

Thats on a dummy tho

[warm portal]

Thats on a player

[mild thunder]

Do you have tier?

[kindred sedge]

Oh damn, long as match then

[crude bane]

nah i need the 2 PArt

[kindred sedge]

or just an overall ig

[mild thunder]

Arms 2pc is huge

[warm portal]

It was from a 6 round shuffle

[mild thunder]

4pc is eh

[kindred sedge]

Ah okay, saw like 100+ casts and assumed parse

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/5c6a2588d1c291555921dd19f2940a34

no EP on duééz

dumy

just 2 Stack of OP

i dont know xd

[warm portal]

Dummy dam always way higher

[dark sparrow]

Dummy has no armour and vers, it’s a joke

[crude bane]

yeah i guess

but 80K its ridiculous

fr

[kindred sedge]

i crit cleave dummy 135k

[mild thunder]

135k dummy would come down to ~100k real hit I reckon

[crude bane]

i think im just bad af at warrior idk how to explain XD

[mild thunder]

Maybe lower

[torpid prawn]

Thats why i was wondering if your cleaves hit as hard as MS

[kindred sedge]

Yeah but that sounds solid as fuck for cleave no?

[torpid prawn]

it is

[rare ibex]

PVP dummy or regular dummy?

[torpid prawn]

it's not too far off from MS

[kindred sedge]

granted again, thats WIT bonegringder up

pvp dummy

[torpid prawn]

always pvp dummy

[mild thunder]

It’s nice, but it’s a lot of talent investment away from ms

And killing one target is far more important than aoe pad in rbgs

Leave aoe to the cringe locks and boomies

Melee is there to kill shit

[kindred sedge]

I see your point ig

[mild thunder]

I had an aff that did 23M in a relatively short twin peaks

But it’s almost all pad

[turbid ember]

But DK has both

[kindred sedge]

My team was pretty stacked so we didn't really struggle with kill targets. Yeah, if i was really try harding i wouldnt run that build

Honestly i was just tired of unholy dk always being top dps by 15m

[mild thunder]

Arms does feel fucking huge in rbgs tho

I was top damage with just a regular ms single target build most of my games

[kindred sedge]

I mean yeah if i just run normal unhinged build its not bad by any means

But if you trying to pad and still do decent dmg its pretty good imo

[mild thunder]

TRoar and bleeds probably does the highest damage tbh

Or close to it

[kindred sedge]

Mostly cleave

by a lot

it feels like when you sharpen overpower has the chance to reset cd for cleave/MS for each target hit to

so you can just spam the fuck out of it

[urban skiff]

is bleed or SKS build a meme or does it have potential in lower brackets?

[torpid prawn]

this thread is so divided on SKS build

either a meme gtfo or

swears by it

lol

[kindred sedge]

Bro, i fucking hate SKS. it feels like hot garbage to me. But i see people saying "LmAo 300k hits ez"

barely get that shit to do 80k with all cds

[mild thunder]

At lower brackets anything can work

At higher brackets, personally, I really like it into stuff like dk and lock

[urban skiff]

sometimes idiot meme builds work better in lower brackets than the tryhard build

[rare ibex]

Just messing with the PVP dummy.. I'm doing non-crit MSs for 95k. Just hit a 195k crit on first try.

[urban skiff]

I guess my question is whether bleed or SKS fits that

[mild thunder]

Because they walk out of spear anyway and the bleed burst is really nice into high armour

[rare ibex]

If anyone still doubts vs PVP dummy.

[urban skiff]

I DID IT GUYS

1400 rating

[mild thunder]

300k is a meme, highest I’ve hit was 250k

[torpid prawn]

congrats

[urban skiff]

next up 1410

[mild thunder]

Congrats bud

[kindred sedge]

I don't even understand how. That being said, Ive played the various versions of the bleed build like 30mins combined so I'm probably just fucking it up

[urban skiff]

do you have an addon that filters small hits / dot ticks?

[mild thunder]

Rend > avatar > cs > sks

[urban skiff]

from floating combat text i mean

[mild thunder]

Does very nice burst, for very little setup

[urban skiff]

will make sks feel bad

[kindred sedge]

You don't ms first for deep wounds?

[mild thunder]

That’s what cs does

[kindred sedge]

ah shit

well even still, literally doing rend, avatar, cs, sks nets me like 80k SKS

[mild thunder]

But yea it definitely can hit hard, and into specs that have pets to soak unhinged and 100 spear escapes anyway

There’s no point in not running it

[kindred sedge]

I'll have to fuck around with it more. I don't doubt its potential it just feels like everyones numbers are inflated

[iron fractal]

Is Rend worth using as arms?

[kindred sedge]

I would say in an arena setting yeah.

[iron fractal]

I dont do arena, bg's, open world, rated bg's etc.

[rare ibex]

I hate Rend, but it's positioned in a way that makes it tough to avoid in some builds.

[urban skiff]

I think rend is tolerable with TC-rend

[rare ibex]

You can cleave Rend with TC too

[urban skiff]

I hate that it's so difficult to spec into

[kindred sedge]

Don't quote me on this but I also saw people saying its a more viable filler than slam

[rare ibex]

Yeah I hate Slam slightly more than Rend.

[urban skiff]

if you don't have any slam talents, rend first tick hits harder than slam. IIRC it cannot crit though

ain't no slam though with IP

[mild thunder]

You can crit rend initial hit

[urban skiff]

oh well then no point at all having slam on bars then

[pallid void]

Rend initial hit can def crit

[mild thunder]

Slam is a totem killer

[kindred sedge]

On another topic, I asked this earlier but yall really picking haste over mastery?

[mild thunder]

Outside of that, it’s a dead ability

[urban skiff]

for what

[rare ibex]

I removed it from mine.. I'm a shitty player and Arms has like 1-2 too many buttons atm for my peasant brain.

[urban skiff]

rend can kill totems

[kindred sedge]

arms

[mild thunder]

Slam is lower rage cost

So technically better to kill totems

But I usually just overpower or rend

[iron fractal]

Is Fatality worth using?

[mild thunder]

It’s good

Not great

But that’s most of our capstones

If you’re running an ms build, there’s nowhere better to put the point

[gentle horizon]

i swear im dcing every time i dragonride today

[kindred sedge]

Again, i would say in an arena setting (where your training a target for a decent amount of time) fatality is good

Unhinged will give you fatality stacks to so why not

[mild thunder]

Mastery bad

[urban skiff]

got hit by a 100k fatality proc today

[mild thunder]

In pure dps, mastery loses to both crit and haste

[iron fractal]

I have to choose between Executioners precision or Fatality.

[mild thunder]

Crit also boosts our burst and rage gen; while haste makes us feel way more smooth

So it’s got some tangible benefits

Mastery is just a flat dmg buff that scales poorly

[kindred sedge]

Im built Crit>mastery. Ive simmed the difference if i went haste. It was a 2% difference

and thats just pure parse

but also lose flat damage on crits

[mild thunder]

I can’t play with sub 10% haste

[teal light]

I have also noticed how bad mastery is in a non full bleed build...I stack mostly crit and haste behind versa.

[mild thunder]

Feels gross

[kindred sedge]

Im literally 30% crit 20% mastery

feels fine lol

[mild thunder]

Even 10% is pretty low

[kindred sedge]

0 haste

literally 0

[mild thunder]

I mean, do what works for you

But 0 haste is not gonna be the go for most people, nor is it recommended

[kindred sedge]

Meh, works fine for me. Haste just feels like a fluffer

[gentle horizon]

so we doing 4pcs orrr

[mild thunder]

Haste is a higher dps gain and makes the spec feel insanely more smooth

[mild thunder]

Yes

You lose very little to get 4pc because 3/4 pieces have vers anyway

[kindred sedge]

Haste is a higher DPS gain yeah. but (atleast in my case) 2% overall dps in exhange for 10k less damage from MS just doesn't seem worth it.

Im more of a burst oriented person tho

[mild thunder]

Well when someone else is getting 3 mortal strikes in the span of time you get 2, it’s worth it

[kindred sedge]

I'm a lucky guy, i just count on the procs lmao

[muted surge]

nice game

[kindred sedge]

I'll probably end up making a set that for haste to compare. Just didn't think It would be such an unpopular opinion to go crit>mastery

[muted surge]

is Ele a good target?

they seem so tanky and jsut insta cast anyway

[kindred sedge]

I feel like if you are just letting the Ele freecast, your fucked.

[muted surge]

like played vs ele destro dh / rogue

[limpid fossil]

Anyone else play around with execute/onslaught fury build? Was just pulling some good numbers on the dummy with the 2 piece bonus.

[muted surge]

didnt seem to reduce eles dmg at all

just taht the destro free casted

[turbid ember]

If healer isn't dispelling then maybe go on someone else

[mild thunder]

cant really stop their dmg much

but they are squishy

[muted surge]

mhm k

[shy geyser]

Is dragonroar worth running now instead of spear for arms?

[mild thunder]

check pins

[iron fractal]

So how good is ignore pain?

[lean burrow]

Do you guys track badge's buff on enemies?

[iron fractal]

Shame you had to choose between storm wall and ignore pain.

[mild thunder]

storm wall is dogshit anyway

at least against people with >10 iq

[turbid ember]

I'm at 1500 so that's up my alley

[iron fractal]

Sometimes I really want Second wind.. at least when doing random bg's.

[muted surge]

in bgs its good

[mild thunder]

second wind is great for random bgs

[rare ibex]

I usually sacrifice piercing howl for second wind in open world or BGs.

[iron fractal]

Its either Piercing howl or Piercing verdict I'm considering dropping for second wind.

[rare ibex]

Or fast footwork, depending on whats happening

[mild thunder]

just drop the leech talent tbh

[iron fractal]

But I got 8% leech q.q

[turbid ember]

Leech is too hard of a stat to understand, like if I deal a 100k MS how much does that heal me? No body knows besides the nerds on elitist jerks or something. I have better things to do than algebra in a video game

[iron fractal]

So how is Defensive stance now? Do we sit in it at all times, or only when pressured?

[turbid ember]

You know you deal 15% less damage in defensive, right?

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder both dog shit tbh

Ip def Better tho

[iron fractal]

Its 15% for pvp and not 10%?

[worthy fern]

Yes

[limpid fossil]

Definitely don't sit in defensive at all times

[iron fractal]

Well, gonna be fun to try out Ignore pain once more, was long time ago.

[inner sigil]

i think i legit found a hacker

410 ilvl paladin hits a 300k crit 1 shot vs fury warrior

had no defensives

no wings

3 times in a row

[iron fractal]

I've been hit by 160k from paladins.. before the buffs.

[inner sigil]

im talking 300k crit

[iron fractal]

Blizzard works in mysterious ways.-

[inner sigil]

now i payed a more defensive strat

and won

[trail hamlet]

ele shaman on my team, stands in middle of nagrand and dies to hunter. Ele shaman on enemy team, hugs pillar all game and lives. Sigh 😦

[mild thunder]

1k assa rogue calling me trash because he 3v1d me in wpvp

[scarlet axle]

do we use slam (arms)?

[mild thunder]

as a totem killer

but otherwise no

rend > slam even as a filler

[scarlet axle]

do we use rend in rbg?

[livid crown]

I don't know how it would end up being, but I can see Rend + Blood and Thunder being decent in big team fights

At least from my experience as Prot

[uncut oasis]

We basically take rend every time now right ? There really isn't a build that doesnt spec it ?

[inner sigil]

can someoen give me a arms build

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/d648198244c2c5a10e7a6701f31f3bfc

2 Part crit

idk

[inner sigil]

someone give me arms build

[livid crown]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkEkEpUKJBAAAAEEBakAERhWSSkEaSESAIRCAAAAAAAARIJJAAEA

[mild thunder]

there's no reason to not take it

[mild thunder]

check pins

[inner sigil]

what does that mean

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikkEkEpUKJBAAAAEEBakAERhWSSkEaSESAIRCAAAAAAAARIJJAAEA

[livid crown]

you import the build in your talents

with that string

[inner sigil]

Spear of Bastion + Mortal Strike focus
BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgWiERCJJpUKJBAAAAkQkIakAERjSSCgmEhEgkEJAAAAAAAAEpkICAUQA

rotation?

[mild thunder]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pvp-rotation-and-playstyle

[inner sigil]

10.0.2

[iron fractal]

Bloodborne is better than Bloodletting?

[mild thunder]

rotation is mostly the same, mate

[inner sigil]

so get rid of rend u said?

[mild thunder]

no one said that

[inner sigil]

bc my rotation didnt include that

[mild thunder]

just use rend as a filler replacement for slam

[mild thunder]

yes

bloodletting is 50% nerfed in pvp

[iron fractal]

Ah, shucks.

[mild thunder]

is this a meme build?

[iron fractal]

No bladestorm, that's heresy.

[livid crown]

yes

[mild thunder]

okay, thank god

[iron fractal]

Hmm.. Warbreaker or Blunt Instruments.

[livid crown]

I forgot I was goofing aroudn with a build before sending lol

[fair tide]

just had a bg w/ 4 ww monks

such aids

[copper hare]

Situational, warbreaker more into pet classes where sweeping cs doesnt get a lot of value or where you can snipe pets for in for the kill procs

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/e96ee6539d6c5571483273d00bb87b3a

1K8 lobby my healer

the other healer is 0 cr

Xd

1K8 is elo hell right ?

[iron fractal]

I mostly do bg's, rated bg's and open world. So never really arenas.

[mild thunder]

then warbreaker

[craggy quest]

Galachad, what s your preference ? bleed build or MS build ?

[mild thunder]

ms into most things

i havent played much bleed build no sks

[craggy quest]

yup i unterstand

thx mate 🙂

[crude bane]

3-3 looby

🙂

wat a surprise

🙂

the 1K2 is 0 6 everything is fine ppl just tunneled him kekw

[rough mason]

dude, those charge disconnects

[muted surge]

And then you get flamed for not pressing defensives :<

Btw about ip, it feel like the 30k shield isn’t as huge as people on the forums said it is

My ass still gets blasted :(

[crude bane]

we need 0 Cd on it

[uncut oasis]

i get melted in solo shuffle lmao. ignore pain is not very noticable tbh

[civic sierra]

sup fam. Would you considder 4 piece tier bonus a must atm? I personally feel the 4 piece one is pretty wack but I'm not so sure

[sharp meteor]

Arms tier is great.

Fury 2pc was a meme, not sure about now.

[inner sigil]

fury with spear of bastion vs paladin (fury has shatter throw) who will win?

[sharp meteor]

Honestly curious as to how 4pc fury does now with execute buff.

[muted surge]

But is losing so much Vers for the hands worth it?

[sharp meteor]

I feel like I'm being memed whenever somebody asks if it's worth losing the vers

[mystic barn]

ive seen this question hundreds of time

[dense spear]

Surely trolling lol

[mystic barn]

tier increases class by 20% damage "hey is it worth dropping 4% verse??"

[sharp meteor]

Guys do I want a set bonus worth 3-8% damage at the expense of losing 0.6% defensive vers

[muted surge]

:>

[sharp meteor]

Like in the case of the fury 2pc at least before this week I could see it

but hands big crit which is great

and mastery is fine

[muted surge]

I mean, i got conflicting Information

That’s why I asked :<

Thanks

[sharp meteor]

I mean everybody has their own opinion

if a set bonus sucks and the stats on all the gear sucks

then yeah, I could see a case for not taking it

[mild thunder]

but it doesnt suck

all but the gloves have versa anyway

you lose almost nothing for taking tier, and then you get tier :)))

[copper hare]

What slot to craft unity on

[muted surge]

[vivid pumice]

Hey gang, new here and I'm sure it's been asked before but I couldn't find it. Should I be wearing tier pieces instead of conquest pieces for the four set bonus? I know the tier set is strong for arms in pvp but I lose a lot of ilvl since it doesn't scale like the pvp pieces do

[muted surge]

[mystic barn]

oh my god

[muted surge]

Tbf it’s a different question

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/old-no-brain-brains-out-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7878833

i want arms to be D tier again

[vivid pumice]

Oh haha my bad, the previous stuff didn't load yet when I started typing

[dense spear]

Yo just get pvp tier pieces it’s good

[mild thunder]

@mystic barn is the dk discord this bad?

[mystic barn]

uhh

theres definitely a lot more crybabys in warrior

but lots of the same generic tier questions there too

and unholy dead from losing 6% pad

[mild thunder]

man i swear unholy got off so easy with 10.0.5

[vivid pumice]

Tbf if blizzard would just put the tier set bonuses on the pvp gear it wouldn't be an issue

[mystic barn]

ya it did get off easy similar to ele cringers

frost mains are whiners too

theres 2 that post solo shuffles every 15min saying how their team ints them and that frost is unplayable

@1800

[pure hornet]

Why is exzistance so good on both warrior and dh

[mild thunder]

fdk isnt even that bad - if uhdk wasnt so busted, i reckon it'd be decently popular

its not a top spec, but its definitely not the worst

[mystic barn]

frost does have survivability issues

its just that they want a setup class to be pumping 24/7 like unholy

when they can just go dual wield to do that instead of 2h

[mild thunder]

didnt fdk get played in awc?

[long ridge]

He has a regime of the motherland's Adderall

[mild thunder]

i do not follow that stuff so idk

[mystic barn]

first game on frost i fragged a warrior in 3 globals

[indigo barn]

Yeah, mes played it with evoker

[mystic barn]

@2600 mmr 0 cr

its not the worst

[mild thunder]

yea the burst is pretty wild

[indigo barn]

https://m.twitch.tv/warcraft/clip/InexpensiveBenevolentRingMingLee-8PG2IxmtSAW4GHEv

[mild thunder]

it'd be even better against pet classes where you can get the full 40% mast buff from pillar

[mystic barn]

mhm

[mild thunder]

basically 60% dam increase

[mystic barn]

it did, it performs well with evoker and ww

cept it gets carried by evoker

fdk creates the setup evoker does the 1 shot

[mild thunder]

i'll get my fdk up eventually for the elite set

looks too good to not get

[mystic barn]

i tested 4pc on frost, got 7 back to back oblit procs from 4pc

[mild thunder]

cooming

[wheat jay]

I should level up some alts man

[wheat jay]

This would look so good on a kultiran

[stuck junco]

am i just bad or is 1500 rating a struggle as arms in 2v2?

[sharp meteor]

I wonder what 2s is like right now my healer hasn't asked to queue

[mystic barn]

2v2 and 3v3 deflated if you were a 1800 player before you would probably hover around there or lower

[mild thunder]

2s is just disc priest spam now

so cringe

[mystic barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914251543463751771/1068044174215102504/image.png

2.1mmr

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

Priest good?

[mystic barn]

you just get railed on by disc

yes disc does as much dam as dps

feels cheesey

[wheat jay]

I like playing with disc

[mild thunder]

its just boring now ngl

[mystic barn]

well you most certainly would like playing with it more now

[wheat jay]

Unless overtuned it ooms fast and is very agressive

[mild thunder]

arms/rdru just feels more right

[mystic barn]

i was expecting mm to be free but the disc was outdpsing the mm

[wheat jay]

What I hate and despise is hpala

[mystic barn]

and carrying the game

[wheat jay]

No matter how strong or bad it is

[mild thunder]

i love hpala

every spear gets insta bopped

fun

[sharp meteor]

spear feels like bait again into some stuff

throw it, get scripted cd

send warbreaker/ava on something else

[mild thunder]

yea not a bad idea

[wheat jay]

Play troar

Enjoy dmg

[sharp meteor]

roar feels like the "spear gets zero value here" thing

and spear usually gets value

idk

even locks who can soulburn gate

[mild thunder]

spear gets literally zero value into dk tho

[sharp meteor]

ya like if u have to go dk then probs roar lmao

[mild thunder]

deaths advance is like a 30s cd that they can burn for free

i feel like rogues are immuning spear a lot lately too

and idk how

[wheat jay]

Just bleed them

With troar

Easy

[mystic barn]

Ya idk why arms is taking spear into dk hpal

[sharp meteor]

evasion dodges it

step still breaks it if they get pulled first

[mystic barn]

did new server maint fix the hp exploits?

I didn’t see any notes for why they brought server down

[fair tide]

hp exploits?

[mystic barn]

900k hp players

and some people bugged at 70k-190k hp

[turbid ember]

Is there a decent death recap addon? The ones I've found are shit. I want a second by second breakdown up to like 10 seconds or some shit

[kindred sedge]

So I'm curious... when yall are talking about SKS doing hella damage (200-300k) are we literally talking about the damage skullsplitter itself is doing, or are you just encompassing everything happening during the burst window of the SKS build

[indigo barn]

The details death recap covers the last 30 actions that affected you

[turbid ember]

Maybe I don't know how to use it, I only see 2 seconds. I don't know how to get a more detailed report

[indigo barn]

Yeah, the report is based off actions not time

I've had one that's been over 20 seconds

[marsh wharf]

is there just no way to play against hunters on 2s

[craggy meteor]

Hey guys could use some advice. With the addition of ignore pain, I don't feel I have a good keybind in my 'defensive keybinds' are of my binds for gladiator's emblem now. I wonder, is there a way to bind it together with bitter immunity so that emblem goes-off then bitter immunity heals based on that now larger amount of HP?

[long ridge]

yeah

/use trinket name

/cast bitter immunity

two lines one macro

#showtooltip bitter immunity

at top

[craggy meteor]

Will it cast them sequentially like that?

[long ridge]

yeah

first line first

then 2nd line

[craggy meteor]

Nice

Thanks man

[long ridge]

yw

[craggy meteor]

Is that a dumb idea? I know they’re on slightly different CDs

I just don’t have the binds now! 😅

[long ridge]

idk if it's dumb, i have one that does it too, lol

[craggy meteor]

Maybe it makes more sense to bind it to die by the sword since they’re both 2min

That kinda puts too much stock in one button, though. Leaves me with not much outside of that

Tricky. Didn’t have this problem as an orc but I have the extra Dark Iron defensive now

[long ridge]

#showtooltip Rallying Cry
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/use Crimson Aspirant's Emblem
/cast Rallying Cry
/cast Bitter Immunity
/use Healthstone

the ultra mega big button

bad player (me) macro

[covert storm]

guys

bought the crit weapon on my warr

did i fuck up?

saw Mes with mastery on his

[long ridge]

no

everyone has crit weapon

[faint wigeon]

man how tf is it only guna give me 70 for a 6-0 in a +200 mmr higher than my average

reee

[long ridge]

bro 70 is huge

[covert storm]

ty Azur

[long ridge]

be thankful

[faint wigeon]

true

[long ridge]

thank blizzard

[faint wigeon]

im 20 shy of 1800 then im done wiht pvp

[covert storm]

i had lobbies with 4/2 where i lost rating

[faint wigeon]

need a 4-2*

[long ridge]

u got that ez

4/2 loss is bullshit for sure

[covert storm]

i had low mmr

maybe thats why?

[long ridge]

probably

stilll

[covert storm]

lost 9 rating

[long ridge]

u should get something

:I

[vivid pumice]

I joined a SS while on a vehicle and had to press the leave vehicle button. Game loaded the arena and then loaded the vehicle start location. Counted as leaving the arena and I lost 150 rating

[covert storm]

shit

most common issue i had was my CDs not reseting after each game

[compact token]

Typically speaking assuming MS is off CD and I have OP charges is it better to use MS without any Battlelord buffs or should I dump my OP charges to buff MS then hope my MS gives me a tactician proc?

I guess in short is it better to use MS off cd or buff it with OP first?

[long ridge]

ms first op only when ms isn't up

some people say

in certain situations when u want to burst u can do 2 stacks of op then ms

[narrow shard]

Which Tier pieces do we want for pvp?

[long ridge]

all but helm

[faint wigeon]

nice

i got +40 from a 3-3 lol

i'm done till next season

[long ridge]

grats

[sharp meteor]

for arms probs everything except helm then use crafted one

[vivid pumice]

its just so wild to me that it benefits us to drop like 6 pieces of gear that are 424

i'm not a maths person but it just seems like that's a lot of stats to cut

[mild thunder]

who told you that?

[long ridge]

pvp tier not pve tier

btw

[long ridge]

PROT?!?!

[left laurel]

what a shit game

40 min queues for this

[vivid pumice]

now i'm confused wdym pvp tier

the drakebreaker stuff?

from WM

[stoic tide]

https://youtu.be/W9JDwXeW8kA He thought he can 5v10 us, so i'm posting how we killed him for giggles:)

[topaz tulip]

Is 405 the bare minimum on when it's okay to throw a tier piece into your pvp gear?

Or should I just be tiering pvp gear?

[sharp meteor]

Tiering non-pvp gear is just the weirdest thing.

We're all a few weeks away from bis.

[vivid pumice]

why is tiering non pvp weird

is it just a stat thing?

[long ridge]

pvp tier bro

[mild thunder]

waste of ilvl

[vivid pumice]

oh shit okay i didn't realize that it kept the increased ilvl in pvp

[mild thunder]

its not worth dropping ilev for tier imo

[vivid pumice]

i thought when you tiered it the piece would lose the pvp equip effect

good to know

had to use my catalyst charge on pve shit this week anyway so rip me

[topaz tulip]

same. Looking for it next week

[long ridge]

what is.. pve?

We only pvp here

[vivid pumice]

tell that to my RL

war sharing tier token with evo sucks so much

but thats a discussion for a different channel

[fair tide]

notice how everyone got real fking quiet a day or two after patch? After they find out whats REALLY over-tuned?

[long ridge]

what

ass rogues and ele?

yeah i dont see anyone crying about arms rn

[fair tide]

Destro locks are sort of scary, but frost mages are fking sleepers

[mild thunder]

disc is probably the most egregious spec atm

i legitimately dont think arms is that overtuned

[fair tide]

most idiots complaining are the ones getting rocked in a random bg

[mild thunder]

random bg players

man i just wanna roll people in low cr shuffle games as fury

and my first match is 2400 mmr

[fair tide]

kek

blizz knows

[coral axle]

They really jacked up the second spec rating it seems, trying to stop farming legend on ur second spec I guess

[mild thunder]

ig it keeps your highest spec mmr?

[coral axle]

It didn't used to do that, tons of people used their second spec to farm 1500 players after getting 2400 on main

[mild thunder]

tahts what i wanted to do

im only 40/100 legend games but cbf rn

maybe i should int my next match

[coral axle]

Yeah that's probably what ima do, I'm ~100 away from 2400 and after that I plan to just tank my other spec rating

[mild thunder]

i legit wanna finish as the highest oce arms warr, that'd feel pretty good

[coral axle]

Would be a sick flex for sure

[mild thunder]

im like 80 rating below the highest guy atm

[spare rover]

especially works nice for classes with healer specs

since insta q

[fair tide]

I wanna try pushing on fury for fun, but all of my gear is 421/424 for crit/verse 😄

will feel bad to run blues

[mild thunder]

im running full crit rb build fury

[fair tide]

it slam?

[mild thunder]

uhhhhh

the damage is good lol

[fair tide]

lol

[long ridge]

wut

fury is gud?

[mild thunder]

the damage is good

but squishy af

and ms is still ass

[long ridge]

rly

[mild thunder]

not as good as arms imo

but i havent played heaps yet

[long ridge]

what happened to fury having good self sustain

[mild thunder]

thats with the anni build

but fuck that, rb is more fun

[long ridge]

fun...?

what about... rating...?

[mild thunder]

thats what arms is for

fun + rating

xD

[long ridge]

okay fair 😄

[red ether]

it's in a good spot imo

not much is over tuned rn besides like disc and sin rogue

[mild thunder]

i reckon an ms nerf would probably be fair

or an unhinged nerf

ms procs from unhinged are 75% effective in pvp or something

a lot of the really stupid arms cheese comes from unhinged

[red ether]

we'll see where we are at with 4 set

4 set may make our dmg a lil more ridiculous

feels like everything is a crit rn lol

[vivid pumice]

rogues are nuts rn

was getting out dps'd in SS by a rogue in honor gear earlier

[quick carbon]

top end mortal strike damage

sshould be n erfed

everything does rlly dumb dam tho

[severe basin]

being the highest of 2 ppl isnt that good tho

frostmourne ded

[mild thunder]

i mean, the top arms oce player is right now is 30th overall or something

[severe basin]

oh damn thats not super high

expected more from us

we have some pretty sweaty players

highest UHDK is like 10-15 last i checked

where are you checking OCE only?

[mild thunder]

its this really amazing thing called reading the realms