pvp

[severe basin]

do you know how spellwarden works tho

[quick carbon]

those are answers to any melee class trying to kill a dk

[severe basin]

warriors arent casting spells on DKs

death strike buffs is actually worse for warriors

[green wyvern]

death strike buffs is what makes dk bad into warriors

[quick carbon]

death strike buff doesn’t matter anyway because the big kill window for warrior is sharpen

and sharpen already negated death strike

[severe basin]

how is it bad

[green wyvern]

since they nerfed spellwarden to compensate

[severe basin]

warrior hits me for a big chunk and i smack death strike its a huge heal

before it did nothing

[green wyvern]

ofc

[severe basin]

i had to ibf

[green wyvern]

You smack death strike

[quick carbon]

dks have historically had issues with warriors killing them

[green wyvern]

at mordor mmr

[quick carbon]

but dks now have more ways to deal with them

Than before

THATS my point

[green wyvern]

warriors have more ways to deal with dks too

[quick carbon]

warriors have always been a good answer to dk

but dks still have tools

[severe basin]

any melee

[quick carbon]

To deal with warrior as well

[green wyvern]

dks have tools against melee but they are pretty weak tools

[severe basin]

if the DK doesnt use chains of ice kiting then its a free kill

for melee

[green wyvern]

you need to know how to kite really well and even then

[quick carbon]

they aren’t weak tools

[severe basin]

but honestly

even with ignore pain

arms warriors still feel like theyre made of glass

[quick carbon]

Rotating ibf and trinket blind every minute vs melee is an amazing defensive option vs warriors

[green wyvern]

yep sounds good

doesnt really work tho

[quick carbon]

It is good

[topaz tulip]

Yeah sometimes I find myself blown up faster than my dh and I really don't understand why

[quick carbon]

It works if ur not awful at dk

[green wyvern]

idk

[severe basin]

same here man

im pretty bad at warrior tho

i thought it was meant to be easy tbh

[quick carbon]

All about positioning baby

What’s been giving u hard times

I’m not the best warrior obviously but I can give a few tips if you’d like

[topaz tulip]

I like to think I"m not bad at war, but that's kind of why I'm in solo. Haven't pvp'd consistently since legion so I know I'm kinda shit

[quick carbon]

stop putting urself down brothers

everyone starts somewhere

[green wyvern]

just do damage

[severe basin]

i feel like im dead before i can do any dmg tho

[quick carbon]

honestly he might seem troll but he’s not entirely wrong

[green wyvern]

most people who are below 2.4k dont know how to do damage effectively

[severe basin]

half the time

[quick carbon]

Some of the best ways to deal with dying to people

[topaz tulip]

Disc and lock really, every so often I find a feral blowing up teammates or crippling me. The rest of the classes are pretty easy I find

[quick carbon]

Is to counter pressure them

[quick carbon]

are you sitting in the open letting disc priests free cast on u

[digital crater]

uh damage throughput is still ungodly, jesus

[quick carbon]

They can do dummy damage if u do

[severe basin]

so is warrior tho

i had an arms warrior global a priest in my lobby before

[digital crater]

yeah but if you can't find a kill through a go UH will just whittle your team down through damp

[quick carbon]

the best way to stop a disc priest fro lm doing damage is to just hold w on them

[severe basin]

priest didnt hit a defensive but they died so fast it wasnt even funny

[quick carbon]

unholy dk isn’t rlly winning from dampening

[topaz tulip]

So I've learned. I'm struggling learning to los them without also fucking my healer, cuz a minute out of sight from them and i'm dead

[quick carbon]

Unholy dk is winning from its 45s go and monster 2m go

[quick carbon]

what comps are you playing

[green wyvern]

what does your opener look like

do you let them open

[topaz tulip]

Oh this was in reference to shuffle. Trying 2's i've got an evoker

[severe basin]

its a 3m

for garg

[quick carbon]

Unholy assault if they play it is 2m? Abom limb empower r 2 mins

[spare basalt]

any fury copium players got a pvp build for me (solo shuff)

[severe basin]

yeah ua is 1.5

[quick carbon]

In shuffle you just have to try to lay out a game plan with ur healer about what ur going to be doing

So he can be prepared to adjust to ur position

but the best thing to do in all honesty

Is swap to whoever’s closest to your healer

So you aren’t dragging him in tough places

you’ll live a lot longer that way

[digital crater]

What if my problem isn't that I'm dying but that I'm not killing the enemy before they kill one of mine?

[quick carbon]

then you just gotta

Hold w

Harder

Brother

[spare basalt]

gotta hamstring baby

[quick carbon]

Could also be target selection

[spare basalt]

create space

[quick carbon]

maybe swapping to a different target would help

[severe basin]

yea target selection is big

[digital crater]

Yeah my issue isn't not pressing my buttons so I think hamstring is right

I do big damage, but not damage that converts into a kill

And then I'm just useless

[severe basin]

partner has to also do big dam

[spare basalt]

I press the healer in solo shuff if my dps gets dicked

[quick carbon]

you should ideally be looking to swap

to anyone in a bad spot

[limber relic]

Guys, what do u pref. Warlords torment or blademasters torment

[spare basalt]

you'll soon see them get off

[limber relic]

Im curious

[quick carbon]

like if someone walls ur GIGA go you still have colossus smash in 30 ish seconds

To go again

[quick carbon]

Depends on what I’m fighting

[green wyvern]

havent played in a while

[quick carbon]

if I’m fighting a dk or demo lock or bm hunter I’m just playing reck

[green wyvern]

but I got to top 20-30 warr eu in shuffle and I played only blademaster

never reck proc

[topaz tulip]

My opener, sometimes I start sometimes I don't. If I do start, charge/sb+avatar/op/ms. If I haven't been stunned or I don't see protections, at that point stun/avatar/rend/ cs/troar/bs/ip. Idk it's all pretty dynamic compared to what I see them doing, but I try to keep burst cd close together

I'll try to remember the bit about just staying close to healer

[limber relic]

Guessing anything with pet u go bs?

I honestly hate blademasters ngl

[quick carbon]

anything with more than 1 pet I don’t play blademasters or unhinged

[green wyvern]

I think reck proc is a joke

[quick carbon]

reck proc is fine

[green wyvern]

blademaster can kill abom

[quick carbon]

yeah it could also kill one of the other 20 ghouls the dk has

[green wyvern]

I climbed back when dh/dk was S tier

playing blademaster every game

killing abom

in shuffle I mean

3s is dead anyway

[quick carbon]

whatever works works then if

Ig*

[mild thunder]

unhinged is troll into unholy

or demo

[severe basin]

their pets just soak

seems troll to me too

[mild thunder]

you're betting that the ms will hit either the dk or the abom

[limber relic]

I climbed with blademasters aswell. Every game but its so boring 😂

[mild thunder]

if it doesnt, you're playing a nothing talent

[quick carbon]

I actually don’t like playing unhinged cuz I don’t like using bladestorm as damage

I like it as utility

[green wyvern]

you are thinking too much

just bolt in the opener

every game

literally first global

you will climb

[limber relic]

Never stack op in burst :x

[green wyvern]

then when you reach high mmr

[quick carbon]

Bolt every cd is just trinket wall from any class

[spare basalt]

i disarm every arms warrior who pops cds

funny to see them stand there doing nothing

[steel trout]

Assa with 4p is the most disgusting shit

[limber relic]

Inb4 bladesmaster

[spare basalt]

FURY GANG

[severe basin]

yea if ur good at it ig

[green wyvern]

when you play arms vs arms comps

[severe basin]

i tried to play it today

[green wyvern]

theres a good tactic

[severe basin]

im much better at sub

[green wyvern]

to win a game

[steel trout]

Its so fucking broken

[topaz tulip]

I'll remember that. So bolt right at the end of charge and hit the burst?

[hollow ore]

What do you do vs shadowplay with disc priest Im losing my shit

[green wyvern]

basically bolt the enemy arms warr in the opener

to fuck his tempo

Its a tactic used in EU since mop times

[hollow ore]

Dude is either getting trained so everyone's free casting, or left alone and dealing 15k dps

[spare basalt]

I just need some guidance on my talents as fury, but no one plays it here xD

[green wyvern]

you can yeah

you can bolt before you charge too

[limber relic]

Or during :p

[green wyvern]

warrior relies on tempo

its all about momentum

[steel trout]

Tried looking at pins?

[green wyvern]

if you gain offensive momentum

[topaz tulip]

The rage generation is weird to me coming off of fury, so I normally avatar and have just enough for the first ms, and then feel like half my kit is dead in my hands

[green wyvern]

you should be able to carry the game

if you have to play defensively

[spare basalt]

I don't really know my way around this discord ngl

[green wyvern]

you lose

[steel trout]

Look at pins there are fury builds

[spare basalt]

nothing for latest patch

[steel trout]

Yes

There is

[green wyvern]

dont bother stacking op ever

[spare basalt]

o ther is

my bad

[green wyvern]

waste of momentum

[spare basalt]

sorry guts

[limber relic]

Just charge+bolt+ava > cs > spear > ms+sharpen
Or if u go blademasters u cs spear then ava

[steel trout]

💯

[hollow ore]

What do you do vs shadowplay with disc priest Im losing my shit. Dude is either getting trained so everyone's free casting, or left alone and dealing 15k dps. Any advice? We're playing tsg

[spare basalt]

you better have a guts tmog in game

[green wyvern]

nothing rofl

[steel trout]

No 🫡

[green wyvern]

shadowplay farms warrior

and with disc

[hollow ore]

Fml

[green wyvern]

its just adding insukt to injury

I mean

[hollow ore]

Never was able to play against shadowplay

[green wyvern]

you can win but

you have to afk

[hollow ore]

Guess that solves my lifelong mystery

[spare basalt]

[green wyvern]

until dampening I guess

even then

disc is broken af

[limber relic]

Shadowplay is a shitshow. Just ff

[topaz tulip]

wtf is blademasters?

[limber relic]

I was lucky against a shadowplay team and 1shot sp

[topaz tulip]

wait is this a talent or a comp?

[limber relic]

Avatar casts bladestorm and vice verse

Talent

[hollow ore]

Feelsbadman

[hot solstice]

After disc got 2nd ps I guess we will see hpal with 3 bops and rdruid with 2 barks

[topaz tulip]

Ahhh I don't use that in my build. Sec

[quick carbon]

the best way to deal with a wizard cleave

Is to bring ur own wizard

[hollow ore]

Dont give em ideas to buff rdrood I beg

[quick carbon]

I honestly think if ur not qing warrior sp then ur trolling

[limber relic]

Played against bm + holy pala in 2s. Perma freedom, 2 bop, sac, turtle. 😂

[quick carbon]

THATS when u afk

[mild thunder]

reroll sp for me, ty :))

[quick carbon]

no bro

I just sell feet pics for war sp qs

[hot solstice]

Have a good feelin about arms arcane in 3s

[quick carbon]

warrior frost mage unironically

Pumps

Rlly hard

warrior any wizard is probably good

[limber relic]

Then just do charge+bolt+ava > cs > spear > ms+sharpen ez.

[green wyvern]

I think thunder is best warr comp rn

[mild thunder]

where do i buy?

[quick carbon]

Thunder damage is bussin this is true

[green wyvern]

thunder, warr/sp etc.

[quick carbon]

I prefer warrior sp for stormbolt stun silence

[green wyvern]

maybe even warr/lock

[quick carbon]

I think warrior destro is also insane

ur best comps are probably those 3

[spare basalt]

this is a nice combo ngl

[quick carbon]

Warrior sp wlx thunder

cleaves are a thing of the past boys

[topaz tulip]

Any reason spear over troar?

[quick carbon]

it’s Harry Potter now

[spare basalt]

pin em down spin to win

[quick carbon]

Spear is just super good into some things

Like insane into some things

Not so insane into others

[spare basalt]

roar > spear for fury

:)

[quick carbon]

you could realistically play spear every game

Just for the damage

It does

u can crit 100k spears

if ur not playing the bleed talents then just play spear

[topaz tulip]

But besides the crit chance, troar does more damage. Or is that the answer, because of crit?

[quick carbon]

Okay let’s break it down

r u playing unhinged

[mild thunder]

TRoar is only worth if you're playing sks imo

otherwise spear just offers more

[quick carbon]

Skullsplitter isn’t even that good

[mild thunder]

6 sec tether > 20k more damage

[topaz tulip]

fair

[steel trout]

🙏 delete assa 🙏

[quick carbon]

you can just go full bleed talents without skull splitter

and play roar

[mild thunder]

feels very strong into dk

[quick carbon]

And just do good consistent damage with it

and roar still hits rlly hard

[mild thunder]

roar doesnt hit that hard tbh

[quick carbon]

roar cleave can be just as good as spear cleave

the dot is unnerfed in pvp now

[mild thunder]

not hard enough to be worth dropping spear

i know

[quick carbon]

I’ve had the dot crit for 30k

[mild thunder]

30k is good... but not worth dropping spear

[quick carbon]

I mean it can be worth dropping spear

If I’m fighting shadowcleave I’m 100% playing roar

what’s the point of spear when they just get out of it

when roar can do similar damage

anyway

you can crit 60-70k roars in cooldowns and have your dots do more damage with it

[topaz tulip]

I mean with the base being 20k extra damage and the increased bleed crits and damage you basically get more damage total out of the ability by itself. If the people you used spear on can get out of it, you lose the crit. I was choosing roar over spear because at least that way I can keep the damage on them while the tether is half way across the map, especially with these fucking evokers everywhere when I was starting out

but if yall say take spear back for more spin crits, well, I'm trying to finish this transmog and get at least one saddle before season end

[mild thunder]

20k extra damage on base?

[hollow ore]

Spear is position control

Its strong by nature

[mild thunder]

oh you mean overall, i read it as initial damage, nvm

[topaz tulip]

Yessir!

[mild thunder]

my consensus is - sks with TRoar is very good into stuff that walks out of spear, because sks is a very strong burst alternative, and you're seeing visible use from the 15% bleed damage. a pure bleed build on its own just does not seem worthwhile

and dropping spear while using a regular ms-focused build is a waste

sks + TRoar feels very good into dk and lock so far

[hollow ore]

Fuck I wanna give it a shot now

With tsg to cleave hard as well

[somber comet]

Has anyone tried converting drakebreaker into tier

Does it work/replace the set bonnu?

Bonus*

[mild thunder]

it works, but it's a waste of a charge

[topaz tulip]

So if I'm against lock/dk, take skull, if i'm against anyone else take spear, and If im against pets, lose unhinged for bloodborne?

[somber comet]

It replaces the set I take it?

[hollow ore]

Ye it changes the item to the set piece

[late nacelle]

Sks is blessed skill

[quick carbon]

The bleed spec with no skullsplitter still keeps the huge damage from colossus smash avatar

[late nacelle]

Use it

[quick carbon]

With reck talent

[hollow ore]

So basically its drakething no longer

[somber comet]

Figured. I like the Drakebreaker set bonus

Would hate to lose it

[quick carbon]

I still get ridiculous ms numbers

[mild thunder]

you still do ridic damage with cs + avatar with sks

[hollow ore]

Ye 2p drakebreaker is guud

[mild thunder]

all you lose is unhinged and fatality

[quick carbon]

You can play unhinged and ep with the roar build

[mild thunder]

you play ep with sks

you can play unhinged and ep with sks

just drop one point from bloodborne

[quick carbon]

sks isn’t bad I’m not saying that

I just

dislike it

Feels super clunky imo

Keeping people multi dotted all game is more fun imo

[topaz tulip]

I liked the 4p for it too, but I'm down to 3 now ;-;

[quick carbon]

Rend is usually my second highest damage with that build

I’ve been playing fatality more I absolutely hate it

like I don’t see how it’s worth the talent

it’s not consistent at all

[mild thunder]

fatality is a waste of a talent ngl

unless you're getting 8+ stacks it does nothing

[somber comet]

Just gonna end up doing it anyway I think

[mild thunder]

"ooooooh 20k extra exe damage" 🤡

[somber comet]

Cause I don't PvP anymore but I like the set for WPvP shennaigans

[quick carbon]

execute hits hard enough anyway

[somber comet]

After I finish the PvE set upgrades ofc

[quick carbon]

I hit a 140k execute the other day it made my chub pop up

[copper hare]

5 stacks and it already did 55k

together with a 55k execute

1 global for 110

[agile aspen]

why is it a waste

[copper hare]

100% worth it talent

[mild thunder]

yea but im noticing the stacks are not stacking very highly or quickly anymore

feels like its been shadownerfed

[quick carbon]

maybe I need to play it more

But from what I’ve played I just don’t like it

[mild thunder]

its in my spear build, but yea unless you know you're going to be tunneling one target for a while, it feels pretty shit imo

[quick carbon]

it’s probably better into low armor

The stacks do physical damage from what I know

So armor probably mitigates it

[mild thunder]

yep

probably

[quick carbon]

maybe into mages and what not

It slaps

With enough stacks

[digital crater]

Gala what are you running now?

[mild thunder]

but yea i hated sks at first as well, but after playing with it, it feels very good

doesnt feel clunky at all

feels pretty clean to rend > cs > sks > sharpen ms

definitely dont feel like you're losing much for it either

[quick carbon]

if skullsplitter did thunderous roars bleed instantly it would be INSANE

[mild thunder]

it did in the beginning

got nerfed halfway through beta

[quick carbon]

that would be BUSSIN

probably just deleted people

[tepid hearth]

arms was insane before the hp buff in the beta

[mild thunder]

but yea im thinking that the 2 extra points you have in the spear + ms build are better dumped into sks instead of bloodborne

[mild thunder]

arms was insane before they nerfed almost every single talent we have

[quick carbon]

if I’m playing spear with big ms talents I’m not playing any bleed talent

Other than rend cuz it’s just a whatever talent point

[mild thunder]

you're playing crit thinking?

[quick carbon]

yeah

[mild thunder]

eh

[quick carbon]

cuz I’m just going for MAX CRIT POSSIBLE because it just satisfies me

idc what u heathens say

u can all eat my ass

[mild thunder]

ultimately, yea fun > anything else

but in a bis build i reckon 2 points in sks is probably way better than CT

[quick carbon]

but doesn’t blood borne also make skullsplitter do more damage anyway

[mild thunder]

yea but it does fine damage w/o it

its coming through as bleed damage as well, so it feels even better into those high armour classes imo

which happen to be ones that walk out of spear anyway - dk/lock

[digital crater]

Thoughts on this into pet classes?

[quick carbon]

that works

[digital crater]

This otherwise

[quick carbon]

That works too

I’d drop overpower talent off ur fighting cleaves

[mild thunder]

yea thats good

[quick carbon]

For big sweeping strikes

[digital crater]

You'd go improved SS over soa there?

[mild thunder]

depends on what you're versing

[untold adder]

Does anyone have a known macro they could share for shattering throw and wrecking throw that works?

I.e. depending on what you pic it changes the spell

[muted surge]

:known

[untold adder]

Yeah

[muted surge]

You should find plenty

[untold adder]

I can’t find a working one

All of them don’t work I’ve tried

[mild thunder]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:shattering throw] shattering throw
/cast [known:wrecking throw] wrecking throw

[untold adder]

Thanks bro

[quick carbon]

I’m an old man who just replaces the buttons on my action bar

[mild thunder]

b-b-b-b-b-b-boomer

[tepid hearth]

would switch out for warbreaker

[topaz tulip]

Sorry, the filter muted me when I tried to post build. Is this what you're saying to run? https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVEUVFERUFQphEQECUQOVVBRVRUZVCRFABCQEDhXABgwihg5ot

[mild thunder]

BI > warbreaker and roar > spear depending on the situation

but yea sks builds are flexible

and yes import strings are banned

[muted surge]

Why are the banned

[mild thunder]

no clue

but wowhead import strings are fine

just wow game ones

[muted surge]

How did you post the strings tho :<

Or were those wowhead ones

[mild thunder]

they're wowhead strings

[quick carbon]

The only time when I take the overpower talent is when I’m fighting rogues

[topaz tulip]

Never noticed. I just posted one earlier and it went through fine.

I take BI unless it's double melee, cuz why not throw damage on both and piss off the healer?

[quick carbon]

u warbreaker they evasion then BIIIIG overpower

[mild thunder]

but yea i got silenced last night because i was trying to get the fucking pins up

[topaz tulip]

Or is it better to just focus one anyway?

[mild thunder]

you can just sweeping the cs

warbreaker is decent into pet comps with double melee dps because a pet may soak the second cs

[topaz tulip]

😲

[topaz tulip]

I really don't know why I never thought to sweep it

[quick carbon]

big colossus smash talent is so fun

Getting 75k colossus smash crits is just so pog

yo I’m gonna meme with juggernaut tommorow

What if it’s low key insane?

[mild thunder]

45% extra exe dam at max stacks

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[quick carbon]

probably garbo tbh tho

[mild thunder]

probs, but it'd be fun

i just dont think you could ever stack it high enough

i played the old conduit version as exploiter/condemn in SL

[steel trout]

I wish blizzard just disabled tier set in arena

Obv too much effort for them to balance

[hollow ore]

Death sentence condemn where

Never thought Id miss SL 😔

[elfin surge]

[steel trout]

another 4p enjoying assa

[torn pebble]

I know that arms>fury but is fury still dogwater or is it possible to play in pvp?

[mild thunder]

whats best build? is tier set worth? spear or roar? arms or fury?

[elfin surge]

idk i havnt rly played much yet

[mild thunder]

😠

[digital crater]

Roar big number

Good 👍

Spear small number

Bad 👎

[mild thunder]

but spear make big mortal strike number

so spear good

sks lots of little number

bad

[digital crater]

gala can i steal your build

[mild thunder]

no

[digital crater]

fuck you

🖕

[mild thunder]

all my builds are in pins xD

[digital crater]

"swap to fbv as preferred"

yea ok

[mild thunder]

i'll update that sometime

but if you drop unhinged against pets

there's not much to use it on

[digital crater]

wonder if it could be worth to drop bladestorm altogether in pet matchups

go 2 ct into juggernaut

is juggernaut high value? i imagine it's good if you get sudden death procs often enough to stack it over a round

[torpid roost]

Still often a useful CC immune/break

[steel trout]

Juggernaut sucks

[digital crater]

shame

[steel trout]

So hard to stack it

[torpid roost]

if you get a chance to stack juggy they're already dead

[mild thunder]

juggernaut is assballs

[digital crater]

what about bloodletting?

also trash?

[steel trout]

And bs is good even w/o unhinged

Playable

[torpid roost]

like the times you get to use it to it's maximal potential are so few and far between

[steel trout]

Depends what build u run

[digital crater]

i feel like i prefer bloodletting to fbv

with a build where i have rend and 2 bloodborne

but no sks

[elfin jackal]

anyone have an arms build i can use? none of the websites have been updated so i cant look up what people are using :(

[quick carbon]

[elfin jackal]

god damn im stupid

[digital crater]

why is the first SS queue pop always a bait at like 3mins

damn

[eager mortar]

Nah not your fault it was only updated yesterday anyway

Pins should have said Fury (not recommended)

[digital crater]

Fury just needs a rework imo

Class design is unhealthy if it's good and boring if it's bad

[eager mortar]

I like my 2 buttons

[placid marlin]

holy arms

[muted surge]

I really hope they nerf arms soon

Absolutely toxic spec that shouldn’t be in pvp

[digital crater]

1 day of arms being strong

[muted surge]

Damange and survivalbilty are overtuned af

[digital crater]

r/worldofpvp be like

[muted surge]

Even dh is nothing compared to arms atm

[digital crater]

2 minor spelling mistakes

sorry bud

looks like you're wrong

[muted surge]

Gotta fit the Reddit theme

[grand scaffold]

survivability is not overtuned

sorry to say

and with the set nerf dmg feels good but not like it was before

[mild thunder]

all caster lobbies are fucking cringe

[grand scaffold]

^

[grand scaffold]

what

[muted surge]

Dh is bottom tier while arms is just leagues above everyone else

[digital crater]

true

[severe basin]

y

[grand scaffold]

dh bottom tier?

tf

wdym

[digital crater]

bro trust me its bad bro

please

bro its bad we need buffs bro

[pearl prism]

r ui guys macroing ignore pain to your other abilities?

[mild thunder]

do i really have to justify why all-caster lobbies in shuffle are cringe? in a warrior discord?

[digital crater]

think he meant yea bro

[grand scaffold]

dh isnt bad ngl

[mild thunder]

he fucking better

[severe basin]

use pillar

ez bro

[mild thunder]

who?

[severe basin]

dont b shit

[mild thunder]

who the fuck asked

[elfin surge]

WHY IS EVERYONE SPECCING OUT OF IMP EXECUTE MAN

[turbid ember]

I asked

[mild thunder]

improved exe bad

[severe basin]

love u bud

let it all out

[mild thunder]

i only execute once

[elfin surge]

sorry im not a fury main i dont want execute to have a cd

[mild thunder]

not a fury main? what did you play at start of xpac? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

SMF with agility daggers

[mild thunder]

only respectable fury build

[quasi rock]

anyone had a max hp issue today in arena ?

[mild thunder]

what do you mean?

[quasi rock]

my warrior is full blue honor gear, joining an arena and my max hp dropped by half

next game, same shit and i exit the arena with 1 max hp

[mild thunder]

i saw yesterday in rbgs someone claimed they werent scaling

we just kicked them and moved on

[agile aspen]

[quasi rock]

started an arena and got max hp to 26k, other warrior just charged me and one shotted me xD

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-youre-goddamn-right-gif-14600753

[grand scaffold]

winstreak continues

[mild thunder]

why pretend to be something im not?

[agile aspen]

but you pretend to be good every day

GOTTEM

[muted surge]

Not difficult as the most broken spec

[severe basin]

how is it broken

what do you main @muted surge

[mild thunder]

[muted surge]

Warlock

[severe basin]

omfg

[mild thunder]

dan, why are you picking fights with everyone tonight?

breathe, son

[grand scaffold]

guys

let @muted surge be

this guy is trying to annoy people on purpose

[muted surge]

Hope locks get some buffs soon

[steel trout]

Real

[muted surge]

The meele zerg is too much

[severe basin]

they need to delete demo from the game

[grand scaffold]

why

its not op

[severe basin]

with its 50,000 pets crashing my pc

[muted surge]

That’s just toxic

[grand scaffold]

😂

[steel trout]

Delete assa 4 piece

[severe basin]

its the toxic pets not them being op

[muted surge]

Also arms heals for 30% every bleed tick vs demo

[steel trout]

Please can we all come togetjer and just hate assa rogue instead

[muted surge]

It’s the most broken counter to demo

[mild thunder]

so fucking op

i saw it with my own two eyes

dont ask for proof

[grand scaffold]

yo galachad

what build are you playing atm?

[severe basin]

i hate assa rogue because im bad at it

[grand scaffold]

same

[severe basin]

and the only game i played i went 0-6 and got told to kill myself

[muted surge]

Is that why you fotm arms?

[severe basin]

no i dont fotm arms

[mild thunder]

mostly first build in pins

[severe basin]

i main DK

[mild thunder]

most reliable

[steel trout]

Assa is the real fotm 💯

[grand scaffold]

thats cool

[severe basin]

and i suck at warrior but tis fun

[grand scaffold]

are you liking sks?

[mild thunder]

sks is fun too, but i dont wanna tank my shuffle rating testing it out yet

[grand scaffold]

neither

i dont have the keybinds necessary

[mild thunder]

its crazy how much smoother the rotation is with IP

[steel trout]

@mild thunder please join me in the assa hate

[severe basin]

maybe i should get good at assa

[mild thunder]

assa is a fucking retarded spec and i legit dont know how to beat it in 2s

[severe basin]

my sub games i go at least 3-3 and subs meant to be bad

[mild thunder]

bladestorm kidney > 1shot outside of stun

intervene kidney > die anyway

disarm > too bad, bleeds

[steel trout]

U cant

[mild thunder]

fucking cringe spec

[elfin surge]

assa/rdruid is impossible but assa/disc is ez

[steel trout]

4p = unhealable

They dont press shit and u die

[mild thunder]

have you versed assa/disc after disc buffs?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[grand scaffold]

heres the trick

[elfin surge]

yes i qd into 5 different r1 teams qn it

[grand scaffold]

you go on the healer

and hope for the best

[elfin surge]

felt easy

[steel trout]

I genuinely dont know how to beat assa if they have 4 piece

[mild thunder]

yea disc can still get ran down ig

i pushed 2s earlier, but my disc was never as good as theirs

he's a great disc player, but he was fumbling the new build

[steel trout]

assa disc felt not too bad until yesterday when i ran into 4 rogues that had set

[flat dome]

I had a resto druid bitching that resto healing sucked now

[steel trout]

Now i am a professional assa hater

[flat dome]

Needless to say, I lost most of my matches

[mild thunder]

rdru players are cringe af

[steel trout]

They farmed me into a forum enjoyer

Cba anymore

[mild thunder]

it was like a 2% throughput nerf

spec dead, move on boys

[elfin surge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PatientFunDootPeteZarollTie-wNfG3YCJjtzbLXRO
@mild thunder

i love when they press nothing and somehow die thru evasion

[mild thunder]

this makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

[severe basin]

arms needs to get nerfed

show the warlock that clip

[mild thunder]

nah they should revert the ms nerf tbh

spec is dead

[severe basin]

@muted surge look at that clip mud just posted

[steel trout]

Tank all cds

[elfin surge]

i love warrior

such a manly class

[steel trout]

Press nothing warr op!

[grand scaffold]

was about to say

that rogue literally needed to press evasion

[agile aspen]

add improved ms for free at start of tree thanks

[grand scaffold]

or disarm earlier

and he wouldve been fine

[digital crater]

Rogue had evasion up

[grand scaffold]

then how did he get hit

[mild thunder]

yea i had a similar match against dh/disc... they both stood in double spear with double BmT bladestorm into double bladestorm with unhinged

[digital crater]

Idk

[grand scaffold]

was he looking the other direction?

[mild thunder]

1.3M in 20 sec

[digital crater]

The bar says he had it

[grand scaffold]

you mean off cd?

[quick carbon]

I was arguing with my dk friend and my brain is melting rn

[mild thunder]

he did, mud probs just got a bit lucky with positioning

[quick carbon]

Holy shit

[digital crater]

Nah look at portrait ndogo

He deff popped it

[severe basin]

about what

[steel trout]

He did but he got hit in back

[severe basin]

we can continue it here

[grand scaffold]

im so sure that guy was looking the other direction

[severe basin]

if you want

[grand scaffold]

in which case

also his fault

[quick carbon]

he was saying dk over the last 5 years hasn’t been consistently strong

[severe basin]

it hasnt

[elfin surge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HomelyCoyBunnyOSkomodo-N9iHv540RLmo4jPx

[severe basin]

it was dog in SL

[mild thunder]

pops evasion
turns back to warr

[quick carbon]

And I’ve been calling him a retard for hours

[mild thunder]

big brain

[elfin surge]

haha war is fun now

[quick carbon]

Dk was not dog in shadowlands

[severe basin]

your wrong tho

it was dog

B tier at best

[quick carbon]

I’m about to copy paste the same message I sent to him

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

[mild thunder]

dk was not dog in SL

[quick carbon]

Okay it’s too long

[grand scaffold]

ignore pain is really nice

[mild thunder]

wasnt unholy a top spec s3/4?

[grand scaffold]

eah

yeah

and frost in s1 and part of s2 was stupid af

[mild thunder]

and frost was viable in s1

[grand scaffold]

heartstop aura

[quick carbon]

in s15 unholy dk was good

[mild thunder]

before they giganerfed it

[quick carbon]

Wod s1 frost dk was good

Wod s2 frost dk was great

Wod s3 frost dk was great

[mild thunder]

wod dk

death siphon

necrotic plague

[grand scaffold]

i miss death siphon

it was really fun

[digital crater]

wod prot warrior

[quick carbon]

legion s1 frost dk was great

Legion s2 not great

[severe basin]

bro r u lost son

[grand scaffold]

wod fury warrior

was awesome

[quick carbon]

Legion s3 unholy dk was great

[grand scaffold]

siegebreaker 1 shot

[severe basin]

arms warrior has been S+ tier every patch

[mild thunder]

why did wod have some of the most fun specs but also the worst fucking pruning in the game

[severe basin]

relax

[quick carbon]

Legion s4 unholy dk was great

legion s5 frost was great

[steel trout]

Sks trash thoughts

[quick carbon]

Legion s6 frost dk was great

Legion s7 frost dk was great

Mid bfa s1 dk got buffed to retarded levels

S2 unholy was great

[grand scaffold]

🤨

[quick carbon]

Bfa s3 unholy great

Bfa s4 frost and unholy were great

Sl s1 frost dk was great

Sl s2 frost dk was good

Sl s3 unholy dk was retarded

[placid marlin]

Any tips vs full assa lobbies? i feel like they just instablast my healer regardless of how much i peel

[elfin surge]

i dont like skullsplitter

[quick carbon]

Sl s4 unholy dk was great

Df s1 unholy dk is great

[grand scaffold]

sks is good

[severe basin]

/afk

works every time

[grand scaffold]

not my playstle tho

[steel trout]

I think sks bad..

[grand scaffold]

why

its reliable burst

[elfin surge]

so is one mortal strike

[grand scaffold]

eh

[quick carbon]

I can think of 1.5 seasons over the past 5 years where dk just sucked

[grand scaffold]

sks hits like 300k sometimes

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[steel trout]

Prove 300k

[elfin surge]

kap

[mild thunder]

i'll prove 300k when gnome proves his 30k FbV heals

[quick carbon]

I mean you can legit do 210k in one mortal strike

So

LOL

[grand scaffold]

yaaah

[grand scaffold]

no

not in real pvp

on target dummy yeah

[grand scaffold]

was that a level 60?

😂

[quick carbon]

no

[mild thunder]

yea 200k ms is possible

[quick carbon]

70 warlock

[severe basin]

no its not

[grand scaffold]

i dont believe it

[severe basin]

i just hit a 200k MS on ur mom

[mild thunder]

you have to channel your inner gigachad... let all the gigachads that have come before flow through you

[quick carbon]

like idk how else to convince u

Do u want me to stream

Me hitting giga mortal strikes

[mild thunder]

yes

[steel trout]

Blz tutorial

[quick carbon]

those are real screenshots

[steel trout]

🤯

🧑🏼‍🎤

[mild thunder]

doctored screenshots

fake

fraeud

[quick carbon]

Of mortal strikes doing retarded damage

[mild thunder]

not real

[grand scaffold]

it cant be real

210k

in arena?

[steel trout]

I want to see sks 300k now

[grand scaffold]

naaaaaah

[quick carbon]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

unless those guys are using 0 defensives

not happening

[quick carbon]

double ep double overpower avatar colossus smash spear of bastion crit modifier

and badge

And weapon str proc

[steel trout]

U said 300k sks Possible but dont Believe screenshot of 210k

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[topaz tulip]

@elfin surge So is the build you dropped yesterday not the one you're running then? I thought I saw sks in it

[quick carbon]

I MEAN NO SHIT HE DIDNT HAVE HIS WALL UP

[mild thunder]

quickmaths

[quick carbon]

LIKE OBVIOUSLY

HELLO

[mild thunder]

that was 100% a troll build by mud

[quick carbon]

like what r u even saying right now

[topaz tulip]

[steel trout]

[quick carbon]

First is IMPOSSIBLE then it’s I DONT BELIEVE IT then it’s HE DIDNT HAVE HIS WALL UP

like no shit he had no wall

That’s why it hit him so hard

He’s a cloth class

I had every mortal strike modifier in the game

of course it’s going to bang him on a crit

[grand scaffold]

was he playing aff?

if he was playing aff i might believe you

other 2 specs

no way

[mild thunder]

you know what? mortal strike should just consume rend whenever its used so we dont even use sks

[quick carbon]

LIKE WHY DOES IT MATTEE U SAID ITS NOT POSSIBLE

WHEN IM SHOWING U IT IS

[grand scaffold]

so answer the question

lmao

[quick carbon]

it was demo

[muted surge]

?

[grand scaffold]

nope

not real

[quick carbon]

LMAO okay man

[mild thunder]

LOL

[quick carbon]

ur just being ignorant

[grand scaffold]

you ignoring the facts

[mild thunder]

its because you're hardstuck 2k, @quick carbon

[muted surge]

Ngdogofury is just a troll

[quick carbon]

HAS TO BE FAKE BRO11!1!1!111!

[grand scaffold]

bruh you say dh is bad and arms is overtuned with survivability

outta here man

[elfin surge]

this is what im currently running. havnt had much time to play tho so idk if its the best

[grand scaffold]

010101010101010111100

[quick carbon]

I’ve hit DRUIDS for 180k lmao so u won’t believe a cloth class can be hit for harder with every single modifier in the game?

[grand scaffold]

yah

demo has passive tankiness

like idk

soul link?

[turbid ember]

Armor class still matters? TIL

[quick carbon]

ur just insane man

[grand scaffold]

no u

[mild thunder]

just admit you faked the very obviously real screenshots, dude

[grand scaffold]

no way

'

[quick carbon]

Demo doesn’t even have soul link?

[grand scaffold]

WHAT

[quick carbon]

I just googled the talent on wowhead and affliction and destruction has it

Lmao

[grand scaffold]

tf are you on about

im logging over rn

no way they fucked over my warlock like that

[quick carbon]

I’m just going over wowhead

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[mild thunder]

he has a warlock alt

[turbid ember]

Maybe it was in a BG with berserker :^)

[quick carbon]

it was arena

mannn

[mild thunder]

petition for crusader to star as the next Joker

[quick carbon]

ur all tilting me I hate u

[grand scaffold]

yeah i got 2200 on it this season

[topaz tulip]

Yall got me crying

[turbid ember]

Lol

[grand scaffold]

yeah

that sounds more like it

[elfin surge]

post armory

[quick carbon]

or you just don’t do damage

IM SORRT IM BEING MEAN

[grand scaffold]

balboa-sargeras

[quick carbon]

MY BAD MAN

[grand scaffold]

ndogofury-bloodfurnace

[topaz tulip]

Fair enough, tested fury yet or is it still a dumpster fire to you?

[mild thunder]

drop an R word, it'll solve everything

[steel trout]

Big dam judge

[quick carbon]

I’m having a bad night at work boys I’m sry

[elfin surge]

havnt tried it rly. Played one game and the damage felt good i guess

[quick carbon]

fury dam can be cracked

[grand scaffold]

whoever said demo doesnt have soul link

[quick carbon]

Wowheads wrong then

[mild thunder]

fake screenshot

i dont believe you

[steel trout]

Fake for sure

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/d-stands-for-dumb-scarred-justinscarred-justin-randomland-gif-11625973

[quick carbon]

but yes it was a demo warlock in an arena I hit that on

[topaz tulip]

[grand scaffold]

no

it cannot be possible

[steel trout]

Warrior illuminati faking screenshots

Sad to see

[grand scaffold]

unless the lock had no pet out

[steel trout]

Wake up people

[grand scaffold]

i dont think so

[quick carbon]

okay man I’m done arguing with u about it idc if u believe me or not

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/old-no-brain-brains-out-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7878833

[grand scaffold]

its just not a thing

[steel trout]

Im glad ur woke

[grand scaffold]

woke people

[steel trout]

Its just propaganda spread by the warrior elite

[topaz tulip]

I feel like it would be easier to say "Only because that lock was trash" and let him stew

[steel trout]

Trying to pin us against eachother

[mild thunder]

its the goblin bankers, they're behind it all

[topaz tulip]

Also fair

[steel trout]

Deathwing was an inside job!

[quick carbon]

yo u know what’s wild when I think about it

I’m pretty sure dk has been just as good over the last 5 years as warrior has

If u go season by season

[mild thunder]

prove it

[grand scaffold]

you arent wrong

im just saying tho

a lock sitting your spear burst

tanking 210k

[muted surge]

A lock instantly dies

[grand scaffold]

clearly doesnt have a pet out

then that lock is like 1400 cr

[muted surge]

Lock weak

[quick carbon]

that’s not the point

The point is

[grand scaffold]

not if the lock is good

[quick carbon]

Those numbers are possible

[grand scaffold]

did he remember to repair his gear?

[quick carbon]

you can hit demon hunters for over 180k too

[quick carbon]

What spec lmao

[elfin surge]

arms?

we deff didnt say that lmao

[quick carbon]

arms is

Arguably

Overtuned

Tho

[mild thunder]

undertuned*

[quick carbon]

ya that doesn’t sound like something you’d say

[elfin surge]

i havnt played much so idk yet

[quick carbon]

Tbh tho everything

Does

Retarded damage

Damage needs to be dialed back imo

for everything

[mild thunder]

everyone else's damage needs to be dialed back***

[elfin surge]

arms should be S tier

always.

[mild thunder]

absolutely true

[steel trout]

Arms is the main character of wow so yeah

[mild thunder]

we're supposed to be holding the RMPs at bay

[quick carbon]

I mean arms warriors kit is so pvp friendly

It’s usually good

very rare that arms warrior just SUCKS ASS

[grand scaffold]

bfa s4

sl s3 and s4

wod

[quick carbon]

Bfa s4 arms wasn’t shit

[elfin surge]

arms wasnt bad s4 sl

[quick carbon]

It just wasn’t meta

[severe basin]

bro

lukeypooky

DK was dumpster from wrath to DF

[quick carbon]

ur just trolling

[severe basin]

stop coping and lick my feet

[elfin surge]

[grand scaffold]

was kinda bad

[severe basin]

wheres that warlock

[quick carbon]

it wasn’t bad

[grand scaffold]

in what way

[muted surge]

So many trolls here today

[quick carbon]

It was certainly gladiator viable

[grand scaffold]

starting with you

[severe basin]

says the fotm warlock

[muted surge]

?

[severe basin]

that cant cast gate to get away from a warrior

[grand scaffold]

r1 viable and glad viable very diff

[severe basin]

its instant cast

just press it

[grand scaffold]

i got 2400 as fury in s2 sl doesnt mean the spec was good

[quick carbon]

People got r1 as warrior in bfa s4 tho

[grand scaffold]

it sucked ass

[muted surge]

Okay 1200 war

[green wyvern]

bruh crusader stream quality

[elfin surge]

very good

[quick carbon]

from when I started playing wow in mop I’m struggling to remember warrior having a genuine awful shitty season

[severe basin]

thats what i have been saying

[quick carbon]

same with dk tho LOL

[severe basin]

and u called me a troll

my god

[green wyvern]

holy shit LMAO

[quick carbon]

dk and warrior have both been good

What do u mean

[green wyvern]

crusaders stream

[severe basin]

DK is a lil undertuned rn tho

[green wyvern]

is acid trip

[muted surge]

?

[copper hare]

felt good into melees, but horrible into any kind of caster

[severe basin]

it needs some better defensives

[quick carbon]

dk still does dummy damage just like everything else

[wooden grove]

Unholy was a fucking JOKE until 9.1 gave them ms and self healing wrapped up in the same shit

[quick carbon]

I guess we’re forgetting bfa dk

that’s crazy

[steel trout]

Legendary

[mild thunder]

9.0 and 9.1 fdk was great anyway

[severe basin]

when was rogue bad

[wooden grove]

Honestly FDK 9.0 was juiced

[quick carbon]

Heartstop aura delirium GUARANTEED that frost dk was good in pvp

[mild thunder]

rogue is never bad, it just rotates specs

arms almost never rotates to being worse than fury

except super rarely

[quick carbon]

I remember rogue being BAD in pvp for like 1 week

[severe basin]

hopefully sub is better next season

[wooden grove]

Also just delete uh and blood frost is the only real dk

[severe basin]

frost is ass rn

[quick carbon]

And that was in bfa that 1 week where conflict and strife was making vers give 100% of its value in damage reduction

[severe basin]

literally bin tier

fuck frost

[muted surge]

That’s why it’s played in the tournament

[quick carbon]

frost dk isn’t bad it’s just not unholy

[mild thunder]

frost isnt even that bad