pvp

[woeful solstice]

i swap battlelord with bloodletting

based on game

[waxen oasis]

Anyone try the talent thst doubles your avatar?

[smoky anchor]

don't think there is one

i think there's a talent that doubles cs tho

oh it also double savatar

interesting

[woeful solstice]

whats the verdict on critical thinking

bad if ur crit build already?

[smoky anchor]

decent but there are other better talents if you are trying a full bleed build

[late nacelle]

drop

precision

take the thing on right

[turbid ember]

I don't think many people here have critical thinking

[late nacelle]

below book

[soft zodiac]

What gear should we uprade to tier pieces?

[waxen oasis]

Thought it doubles both

[smoky anchor]

no way EP is way better than fatality

[late nacelle]

not fatality

the bleed talent

[smoky anchor]

oh bloodletting

[late nacelle]

ur trolling if u dont take it with sks

[flat dome]

ur trolling if you use sks

[late nacelle]

y

hitting for 300k+ is trolling

[smoky anchor]

@elfin surge put up vods of u playing arms in solo shuffle so i can copy you plz

[torpid prawn]

lmao i am so confused on whether sks is a meme build or a viable option

[late nacelle]

u gotta hit for 200k max

[tight imp]

If I'm switching from fury with mainly haste gear which arms build do I run? The bleed one? Until I get more crit?

[flat dome]

You aren't hitting for 300k

[grand scaffold]

fueled by violence in sks seems so good tho

[waxen oasis]

Everything but helm

[torpid prawn]

has @elfin surge put his build up yet?

[late nacelle]

my max is 320k

😛

most of them are 150k-200k

depends how many of ur bleed ticks crit when u proc it

[elfin surge]

i hardly q shuff

[tribal nimbus]

Not helm

[soft zodiac]

Damn bubbas should I wait til at least 2 pieces since it messes with stats so much?

Wait maybe it doesn't

[torpid prawn]

shit, i got a helm in vault and upgraded chest to match set with helm. did i fck up

[elfin surge]

work in prog

[torpid prawn]

appreciate this.

[full quiver]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[grand scaffold]

piercing verdict not awesome?

[smoky anchor]

ya if you just tie it to CS so you can get recklessness that should be a monster crit chance

what's ur burst rotation?

op op cs rend sks ms?

[elfin surge]

i play it if i think i can reliably land double spears

[late nacelle]

if u wanna hit harder

[woven pulsar]

Piercing verdict has been garbage since it was introduced in SL

[late nacelle]

u run hurricane

and bladestorm first

[smoky anchor]

moderately, but 2pc is really good. ideallyy ou get 4 pc on the other slots and get the crafted helm for pvp

[late nacelle]

and i do rend -> cs -> sks

[smoky anchor]

do the different applications of deep wounds stack with each other?

[late nacelle]

no

[torpid prawn]

okay, bet

[smoky anchor]

ah okay

[woeful solstice]

i like this build

[smoky anchor]

hahhaha so you bladestorm -> then burst with hurricane lol

question wouldn't CS first be better to increase the damage of rend

or does it not help

[late nacelle]

it does

there is no snapshotting

once you apply CS

[smoky anchor]

oh i see

so you rend

[tribal nimbus]

There’s a really good helm with embellishment on and tier helm has undesirable stats relative to the other tier slots. Minor inefficiency but you’ll be okay

[late nacelle]

the rest of the rend ticks are boosted

[rotund thunder]

What build are people running for arms now that the tree was updated?

[smoky anchor]

got it

i like it. gonna try sks tonight

[crimson onyx]

What's the fastest way to get the catalyst? Have the Group Content quest duh

[late nacelle]

got it from arena

in like 1 hour

[smoky anchor]

that's what we're all talking about. nothing finalized till @elfin surge give us the all clear as to what talents we are allowed to use

[pure hornet]

Guys is malicia bugged?

[late nacelle]

disabled

[elfin surge]

[late nacelle]

blame NA

[smoky anchor]

disabled temporarily i think

[pure hornet]

I cant updrage drakebrreaker gear

Ntill when???

[smoky anchor]

for real though i need some protips cause i have zero clue how to play avatar without blademaster's torment (i'm a literal retard)

[rotund thunder]

Tie it to your trinket

[smoky anchor]

do you cs or avatar first?

does it matter

or do they add to each other

and do you need to wait?

[rotund thunder]

I mean it's a burst window, you want to activate it to start the burst window

[smoky anchor]

like you get recklessness for a bit but if you use both at the samee time does it extend the duration of reck?

[coral axle]

if u are playing blunt instruments I think you should avatar before CS, because BI makes CS actually do respectable damage

[smoky anchor]

does the CS/Avatar activate of recklessness overwrite each other tho? or does it stack

i feel like if it overwrites i would want to use avatar first and then CS after the first reck runs out 🤔

[late nacelle]

extends duration

[foggy hinge]

Stack

[late nacelle]

u use AVA

then CS

[smoky anchor]

oh nice

okay

[foggy hinge]

You’re overthinking it way too hard

[late nacelle]

CS itself can crit like 100k

[smoky anchor]

ya i am

[vernal palm]

so we dont run avatar proccin bladestorm anymore? 😦 that was fun times

[rotund thunder]

takes slam off my bar

[late nacelle]

never did

[smoky anchor]

you can but it's pretty unreliable

[coral axle]

you definitely can do it for fun if ur not vs a pet class

[woeful solstice]

i like it sometimes

[stark agate]

I’ve always preferred warlords over blademaster

[woeful solstice]

it just feels bad when you wanna pop ava but not use bs

[smoky anchor]

i use it if it's against like, ret/dh or rogue/dh. something with 0 pets

then if you can get them in a spear with sweeping strikes it's beautiful

[woeful solstice]

and have to cancel it

[spice moth]

any downsides to using this macro for pummel?(i have seperate macro for charge/intervene/hamstring: #showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover,exists,nodead][@target,exists,nodead,help][@clear halo]Charge
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,exists,nodead][@target,exists,nodead,help][@clear halo]Pummel

[smoky anchor]

won't you get an error as it tries to charge repeatedly

in min range

no idea that's the only thing i'm worried about

[rotund thunder]

There's an addon that squashes those

[smoky anchor]

well i mean wouldn't it not get to the pummel cast or is that not how macros work

[vernal palm]

Mud the god running death sentence, lets gooo

[rotund thunder]

LET'S GO

BEST PVP TALENT

no E S C A P E

[smoky anchor]

lol. what happened to that talent anyway. i heard it got nerfed so i just don't use it

did the range get nerfed?

[rotund thunder]

No

[vernal palm]

I didnt have enough charges as is

[rotund thunder]

it has a cd now

[vernal palm]

6sec

[rotund thunder]

Yeah

but it used to not have one AT ALL

it was the best

Just infinite charge after someone

[vernal palm]

yep

[rotund thunder]

I loved it in BFA

if I have rage, you are in melee range, period

[smoky anchor]

that's lame

[rotund thunder]

just me scooting across the arena after people. I swear it carried me to 2k

[smoky anchor]

lol

[rotund thunder]

Druids and shamans just raging

[vernal palm]

9 out of 10 shamans recomended a warrior nerf

[rotund thunder]

Negate your entire class strategy withh one neat trick (An arms warrior has entered the chat)

[vernal palm]

They dont want u to know

[rotund thunder]

Lifeshare totem? You mean time to bladestorm

[torpid prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgrLx5aozKk

peak gaming?

[glossy sable]

Warlocks HATE Warriors with this one weird trick.

[rotund thunder]

OH MY GOD

They specifically broke ring of peace so you COULDN'T do that

and you can with bastioN!?

[torpid prawn]

can't even be mad

great way to go

[late nacelle]

lol

thats awesome

[rotund thunder]

But yeah, so glad SS is baseline now

the arms revival is here

totally not the other talent changes, just that mhmm

[grand scaffold]

really annoys me when 1 healer is better than the other in ss

im getting 3/3 draws along with all the other dps

like

often

also can fury play with crit and some haste?

[sterile vector]

what is ms-focused builds

[rotund thunder]

🤮 Fury?

[grand scaffold]

im really good at fury

[rotund thunder]

it's hard to be bad at 2 buttons

[torpid prawn]

i think haste is #1

[grand scaffold]

if i can play it with haste

crit*

im swapping rn

[torpid prawn]

i feel personally attacked

[crimson onyx]

Any new interesting comps after this patch for 3s?

[sterile vector]

mortal strike ?

[crimson onyx]

did not follow who got buffed/nerf except us 😄

[grand scaffold]

nah

we out here with immortal peticure

[dire sky]

hey quick question whats stat prio for arms now still vers>crit>haste>mast?

[vital breach]

Anyone playing SMF there? 😄

[grand scaffold]

shake my face

dont play that

[waxen oasis]

check pinned

[woeful solstice]

[dire sky]

ow nice ok thx

[smoky anchor]

Really like the thought of being able to do huge burst on top of the normal burst every 30 s

With rend > cs > sks

[mortal ridge]

which 4 set pieces do we want?

And do we even want 4 set?

[smoky anchor]

All but helm so you can get the crafted helm

[mortal ridge]

ty

[modern grail]

ready to get roasted but putting IP with OP doesn't result in any noticeable rage issues and it's 40% of my self sustain wihtout needing to think about it. fishing for MS procs is like 100% chance with IP off CD

[queen peak]

I do the same and had no idea people shit on it lol

[urban skiff]

is it worth using catalyst on strife gloves for extra crit?

[crimson onyx]

i thought catalyst get same stat on all set pieces?

[smoky anchor]

not a bad idea, because ideally you can keep IP rolling and stacked up on CD while you aren't the target. but i would still keep a separate bind so that you can press it without need to hit op.

unless you're just always spamming op

[urban skiff]

o shit you're right

[limber relic]

depending on what piece u upgrade it differs

like

if its primal infused, it will be a primal infused tier piece

[modern grail]

I hear yall talking about not using OP very much and i don't get how? Ham, MS, rend, and what else? 40% of the time MS is on CD

[limber relic]

my ms is up 24/7

rage starved

[modern grail]

so you just 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1

wait rage

1, 1, 1, 1

[smoky anchor]

i use it all the time. i'm just saying if you are out of range, or not pressing OP for any reason, or don't want to press OP to activate IP, it will be nice to have IP on a separate binding for that

for example if you already have 2 stacks of OP up for your next MS and you want to MS and IP

[modern grail]

no no, press OP out of range and still get IP. it's flawless

[urban skiff]

do we macro in before or after OP?

potential reset to cast while it's on cd or reset right after using?

[smoky anchor]

right, but on top of that also have a separate key bind

say you've already stacked op up twice and are getting ready to hit MS but you want to keep IP up. you would just hit OP again? and waste a charge of OP?

[modern grail]

doesn't matter. IP is off GCD and OP costs no rage

[modern grail]

hmmm there's gotta be a way to add MS to the macro

[urban skiff]

I guess just do a [nomod:ctrl] overpower in the macro to have a way to not cast overpower

[dapper cypress]

arms ret druid still viable?

[urban skiff]

disc is the new druid

[smoky anchor]

what happened to disc they seem pretty busted right now

[urban skiff]

second charge of painsupp

[modern grail]

I kid but i don't notice any issues tbh. if MS is up or about to be up, we spam away. IP is never that urgent

[slim knoll]

We gonna be running reduced wrecking throw cd then?

[ruby mortar]

Aff is so stupid now lol

[clever fern]

That starfire hurt a little

[upbeat ice]

tbh i think this is why rend build is slightly worse, MS does more damage per cast unless u take all bleed talents so pressing OP more often feels alot better than rend imo, also with ignore pain OP is up more often

[hearty horizon]

Onslaught getting any looks in Fury now?

[urban skiff]

small looks

[azure willow]

is it me or we still feel like wet noodle ? im being blasted whole game

i have to kite more than a dh lol

[smoky anchor]

it is urgent, if you want to get two stacks of it you have about half a second to press it right as it's coming off CD

[smoky anchor]

i mean you only need to rend once every so often. there are times when op and ms are both on cd.

[lethal niche]

which is the op build rn?

[queen peak]

Fury I'm guessing?

[azure willow]

@queen peak arm

i mean its just based on 2.8 mmr solo shuffle

[buoyant field]

hi warrior friends is fury bad now with the new changes?

[azure willow]

ignore pain help a lot but we still feel squeeshy

[queen peak]

Oh I read that wrong. I thought you said hit like a wet noodle.

[torpid prawn]

i didn't feel like fury was that squishy

[azure willow]

sorry my english is not the best

im not talking about fury but arm war

[torpid prawn]

my self healing kep tme alive longer than my counterparts a lot of times

oh okay

[queen peak]

Ignore pain helps just enough as it should in my opinion.

[buoyant field]

are there new fury pvp talents?

[modern grail]

i'm not feeling this today, but i'm only around 1800 mmr. disarm against any melee, IP almost always when on CD, defensive stance if you're taking dam

everyone dying quick, that's the meta

[buoyant field]

i never leave defensive stance

[torpid prawn]

you stay in devensive for fury?

i'm always in berserk

[kindred sedge]

I never use defensive stance

[buoyant field]

oh really yeah i feel like i die fast

[torpid prawn]

try a different build

[buoyant field]

i don't know how to make builds i just copy talents and play

[torpid prawn]

it takes a lot to kill me as a fury unless im gettting mongoed by 4 dps

[buoyant field]

i bought mastery vers gear from the honor vendor

[kindred sedge]

feel like defensive stances damage mitigation is so negligible its not worth even using

[torpid prawn]

yeah, i agree . def stance in fury is super negligible

[buoyant field]

how do u know whats good and whats not?

[kindred sedge]

That's kind of a broad question.

[buoyant field]

like do u use whirlwind in arenas?

[kindred sedge]

hell nah

[buoyant field]

i only have bloodthirst and rampage to press

[kindred sedge]

oh wait, sorry. fury

[torpid prawn]

i can send you my build but it's pretty common for those who built their fury as a self healing god

[kindred sedge]

yeah i mean you use whirlwind as filler or to get cleave buff

[buoyant field]

aaah so it does work in arenas the cleave whirlwind thing i mean

[kindred sedge]

yeah, you have to whirlwind to hit a second target with your single target abilities

[buoyant field]

can u send me your pvp talents

[torpid prawn]

you might also be squishy due to gearing

[past dune]

what you guys think of a arms bleed build

[torpid prawn]

sometimes it's as simple as that. i feel squishy af in arms but its cuz i switched from fury to arms and i have no idea wtf im doing

[kindred sedge]

heres one from the pins for fury BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAQICaJAR0kiISS0AhkAQkEQSSSIJJJhEplSSCgEAAAAEE

[flat tide]

Arms just feels really squish, atleast in 3a

3s*

[kindred sedge]

Arms feels fine, you just have to not let yourself get trained the entire time

you have the utility that fury doesn't, just need to use it

[flat tide]

I mean how am I not supposed to get trained lol

[mild thunder]

Oneshot them before they can train you

[kindred sedge]

LoS, CC, Slow, Intervene away etc

[mild thunder]

Simple tbh

[buoyant field]

Thank you six

[kindred sedge]

give your healer a 2 second break to top you up

[past dune]

which one is better for arms for feet enchants plainsrunner or watchers loom

[buoyant field]

thanks supreme

[flat tide]

I always intervene away during their opener 😦

[smoky anchor]

big facts till the arcane mage shimmers around the corner like a fucking ninja

[flat tide]

Yeah its so hard against certain casters

[torpid prawn]

my mind is blown

i did not know you can intervene away

while cc'ed

is this true

[mild thunder]

No

[torpid prawn]

im such a noob

[kindred sedge]

lol who said that

[torpid prawn]

okay, i was abou tto be mind blown. i must have read that wrong

you meant just intervene away

i took it at intervene away if you're slpet

[kindred sedge]

I will admit though, I've been playing war since TBC and only just recently learned you can reflect hunters ice trap....

[smoky anchor]

most openers are really telegraphed. the only that isn't is possibly rogue

[mild thunder]

Reflecting trap always feels good

[torpid prawn]

reflecting ele shamans is best

[past dune]

Even reflecting cyclones and hex is fun

[mild thunder]

Reflecting lassos is nice… doesn’t reflect anything, but you don’t get stunned

[torpid prawn]

i just hate playing against ele shamans. they hurt so much and have so much utility

[smoky anchor]

just kill them

it's that easy

[torpid prawn]

so easy

[kindred sedge]

lmao, I mean thats a meme but its also the truth so

[torpid prawn]

that's my goal from now on whenever i lose.

just kill them

[smoky anchor]

it's not a joke it's exceedingly easy to kill ele shams, they have one defensive cd

[torpid prawn]

i usually play 3s and i try and hammer them down but for some reason

they're across the map

and smashing me

[smoky anchor]

just los them then

[torpid prawn]

with lava

lasso

[smoky anchor]

if they are across the map

pillar hump

[torpid prawn]

ah, that's my weak point

i need to learn to play pillars

sometimes i forget they're there

[kindred sedge]

if its a ranged, don't fight in the open if you can help it.

[smoky anchor]

also don't charge to get to them initially... ideally you can mount up and run up to them and piercing howl

[torpid prawn]

good advice

i try and save my charge usually but sometimes my thumb wants to do what it wants to do

chrage bolt spear and release

[kindred sedge]

can always try taking the execution charge pvp talent for a little extra mobility

[torpid prawn]

yeah

[kindred sedge]

its not god tier like it used to be, but it can still be the difference between you killing them or not

[torpid prawn]

bet. i'll take a stab with that talent

[kindred sedge]

This might be a given, but also try warbringer if you aren't already using it.

[leaden lynx]

is it wise to macro ignore to pain to MS or is there a better way?

[kindred sedge]

somebody was saying macro it to Overpower. IDK tho

[sharp meteor]

Do not do that.

[cinder thorn]

What does sweeping strikes not cleave?

[torpid prawn]

do not macro IP to oP

?

or ip to ms

or to both

[modern grail]

absolutely do that. no downsides, ignore the haters

[sharp meteor]

To op is less troll but man just hit the button

[kindred sedge]

I'm a 200 keybinds kinda guy, but if it makes your life easier I say go for it

[late nacelle]

why the fk

[modern grail]

i refuse to hit buttons that do not do damage. therefore, OP + IP

[late nacelle]

would u macro in ignore pain

[turbid ember]

People gave me shit tying IP to defensive stance

[torpid prawn]

so you don't have to hit another button in your rotation?

[late nacelle]

its not even on the gcd

use it when ur taking dmg

fixed

[lusty moth]

idk how the ms build could possible be more ms orientated

[modern grail]

yeah i'm no glad, i was rival on dk in s1 SL but i'm still working on general awareness. for now, I macro and zug

[late nacelle]

but

ur literally

losing dmg

for nothing

[modern grail]

i have 0 issues with rage

[late nacelle]

xd

maybe

[torpid prawn]

losing damage as in the rage spent so you can't spend it on anothe dmg?

[late nacelle]

play correctly

and u would lose dmg

[modern grail]

right, i don't ever have issues pressing MS when it's off CD

[late nacelle]

xd

[zealous nova]

are balance druids pumping now? just played into a caster lobby (destro/balance) and felt like paper

[torpid prawn]

i feel like most casual non glad pvpers who dont try and min/max, tying ip to op would be fine tbh

[zealous nova]

ehh not destro it was demo

[late nacelle]

its just

very bad practise

[torpid prawn]

🤷🏼‍♀️

[modern grail]

new hidden passive with 10.0.5 where if you yell over 70db into mic while in in-game voip you generate 3 rage/s

[torpid prawn]

i mean i don't do it, but i can see the merit

[modern grail]

rage = rage

[late nacelle]

the real hidden passive is remove ignore pain from macro = gain rating

[modern grail]

i mean i'm steady climbing. maxed war 2 weeks ago but haven't done much SS. 1500-1800 today in 5-6 shuffles

[turbid ember]

Tie it to your shield block macro swap

[late nacelle]

if u dont shield swap

ur literally trolling

[modern grail]

i have this, but does anyone actually use it? it never occurs to me to use it when my other defs are spent

[kindred sedge]

people still shield swap?

[late nacelle]

ur supposed to

[proud breach]

^

[zealous nova]

wdym u just raise ur sword and spell reflect like he-man

[late nacelle]

if you never ever die

[kindred sedge]

I always did when stance dancing was a thing

[late nacelle]

fine

dont

but if u die a single time

[torpid prawn]

is stance dancing

[kindred sedge]

just doesn't seem needed anymore

[late nacelle]

u could've prevented it

by using the tools at your disposal

[proud breach]

but not from casters right?

[late nacelle]

no

melee

or phys

[lavish heron]

i cant lie i dont shield swap

[modern grail]

what's the average mitigation on that? 40% per phys attack?

[turbid ember]

So useless against DK/DH

[lavish heron]

i should tbh pop that and defensibe

[torpid prawn]

shield swap = stance dance?

[late nacelle]

its pretty huge

against some specs

also if u dont taunt pets and stuff

ur also trolling

[modern grail]

yooo we sending Abrams to Ukraine lfg. off topic but hyype

[kindred sedge]

i feel like your trolling

lmao

[turbid ember]

Stop gnoming

[late nacelle]

no

[torpid prawn]

lmao

[late nacelle]

playing warrior requires a very high IQ tbh

its not the zugzug you believe

[kindred sedge]

ok, def trolling.

[late nacelle]

its is a very deep sophisticated spec

requires finesse

and intent behind every action

[turbid ember]

Now write it into a copy pasta

[kindred sedge]

my intent is, i hit you you die.

[modern grail]

y'all in here talking about "if you press any button other than MS ur trolling" lol v soph indeed

[late nacelle]

just zugzugging will never get you anywhere

[torpid prawn]

lmaoooo

[late nacelle]

practise your shield swaps

practise your taunting

weave in heroic throws in your charges

[torpid prawn]

what's your rating wise

im curious

[late nacelle]

2.9k

[torpid prawn]

shit

[turbid ember]

I do 10,000 shield swaps a day

[torpid prawn]

listen to what he says

solo?

[late nacelle]

also make sure to use

[lavish heron]

but baj never shield swaps

[late nacelle]

piccolo toy

that makes a funny sound

can bait out defensives sometimes

[torpid prawn]

wtf wise

[late nacelle]

also toys that give u glowing effects

[torpid prawn]

i have no idea what you're talking about right now

[late nacelle]

baits people sometimes

your toy tab

you completed it right?

[turbid ember]

I see bait all right

[shut barn]

can we still have primal infused gear ?

[late nacelle]

make use of toys

its op

[torpid prawn]

man, if you really 2.9k

[late nacelle]

can win u games

[torpid prawn]

i'll listen to whatever you say

tell me to use a picolo

and i'll use it

[modern grail]

damn we triggered a manic episode in gnome

[late nacelle]

you need to get it

[torpid prawn]

manic or not, he can back it up

[late nacelle]

from stratholme

[torpid prawn]

with his rating

[late nacelle]

i lied

im not 2.9k rating

[torpid prawn]

mf

[late nacelle]

im actually

3.2k rating

[lavish heron]

pics

[turbid ember]

Same

[torpid prawn]

you

[lavish heron]

or it didnt happen

[torpid prawn]

took advantage

of my

[coral axle]

[torpid prawn]

trust gnome

[late nacelle]

first lesson

never trust anyone

except your shield

when ur getting trained by melees

[torpid prawn]

i cant

listen to you anymore

[late nacelle]

dont you see the "wise" in my name..?

[lethal niche]

best tier pieces?

[late nacelle]

not helm

[lavish heron]

armour

[modern grail]

y'all need counterweights on your enter keys

[late nacelle]

and you

need a shield

[lethal niche]

i have chest

[late nacelle]

and removing ignore pain from OP

[lethal niche]

maybe pants or gloves next?

[modern grail]

i will never

[lavish heron]

if Boromir] used his goddamn shield he would of survived

[modern grail]

@elfin surge gonna be running OP + IP by next reset

shield block useless vs ret or no

[torpid prawn]

i can never shield swap. that sht is outdated af

[lavish heron]

Disarm

[torpid prawn]

disarm is only useful for warriors and pallys right?

[lavish heron]

Well thats ret innit

a palla

.....

[torpid prawn]

i know im asking

[lavish heron]

ooooh

ok

honestly its good v any melee

[torpid prawn]

but you can't disarm dh though?

or am i mistaken

[robust hamlet]

so these double prot pally matches are annoying af, like they nerf'd ret and they all decided to go prot?

[late nacelle]

stun the valkyrie

reap the rewards

[lavish heron]

but no seriously if you watch LOTR and read the books boromir runs about with a goddamn shield and he never used it

if he listened to the wise gnome

[thick reef]

Severely reduced effectiveness vs dh, monk, DK, and shaman

[lavish heron]

he wouldnt of had a chest full of arrows

[late nacelle]

people will never learn

[torpid prawn]

okay, that's what I thought

[late nacelle]

they'd rather take a loss than play correctly

[thick reef]

So mostly war, paladin, and rogue

[lavish heron]

yeah

[torpid prawn]

fsho

[lavish heron]

not sure why its reduced effectivess v certain specs

which is dumb

[thick reef]

Though by far hurts warriors most

[lavish heron]

but hey ho

[late nacelle]

dont play disarm

disarm is an oppressive tool invented by mages to keep us down in the mud

rise above it

[thick reef]

Absolutely removed warrior as a threat

[torpid prawn]

i think wise is on something

[late nacelle]

invest in a shield instead

[thick reef]

Paladin still has some options and rogue can do other stuff

[lavish heron]

reroll prot

haha

[late nacelle]

nah

dont need that much shield

just the right amount of shield

[thick reef]

Disarm may as well be a stun on warriors

[torpid prawn]

it basically is

you can't do jack

[lavish heron]

except

[torpid prawn]

just running around with your pants down

[lavish heron]

well jack

😄

if you get disarmed on your two hander

can you macro swap to sword and shield?

or least shield for protection?

[kind fog]

What about enchants for arms?

[torpid prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[kind fog]

Is it still the usual?

[lavish heron]

huh i feel like i should test that

get disarmed

[torpid prawn]

is that enogh shield for you gnome

[lavish heron]

equip sword and shield

does that even work?

Im honestly curious now

[late nacelle]

if u didnt macro /tar pitlord /cast taunt on every spell u trolling

[torpid prawn]

i doubt it

[lavish heron]

and shield slam would still work?

cos technically the tooltip requires a shield

not a sword

[torpid prawn]

but you should try it

and report back

[lavish heron]

no frends

:/

[lethal niche]

i am getting tired of the long waits for soloQ

i dont even have a high rating

[queen peak]

High rating = less players = longer queue. Lower rating = more players/less healers= higher queue.

Lose/lose situation

[torpid prawn]

play healer

win/win

[quick ivy]

So we play rend now?

[queen peak]

If you want to

[lavish heron]

rends decent

but not the go to build

[urban skiff]

ilvl 423 with 4set bonus

feeling pretty good right now

[quick ivy]

I dont have the button space for rend

What is the build now

[urban skiff]

macro rend into charge

[lavish heron]

take slam off then

[queen peak]

Activate that second action bar then

[lavish heron]

press shift cntrl or alt

move your hand to middle of the kb and rebind everything around it

[quick ivy]

I dont slam or rend xd

Got so much else to press

[lavish heron]

on an arms warrior?

[quick ivy]

Ye

[queen peak]

Lol

[lavish heron]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

auto attack doesnt count

[queen peak]

Settings > Action Bar > Check the boxes to turn the rest on

[quick ivy]

Can someone link the «go to» build for arms

[lavish heron]

tbh you dont wanna see my kbs haha

its in pinned

[vivid gale]

How do you handle a solo shuffle game where they are holding disarm for you every round

completely ruining the burst window

[lavish heron]

bait it

then run away

[vivid gale]

just stagger cooldowns so its more consistent damage?

im saying for instasnce this last game

every time I used spear/avatar, i get disarmed

are you saying just hit spear, let them disarm, then use avatar after?

[quick ivy]

I guess its the spear ms build

[lavish heron]

no

im saying bait it out

i think you gonna lose a cd somewhere

but its to fluid to say do x y z all the time

and have it work

[urban skiff]

your CS should be ready more often than disarm

[lavish heron]

6

[lean burrow]

stun+cs the one who is disarming

[queen peak]

I'm a dark iron so sometimes I bait out disarm with Fireblood

[lean burrow]

bladestorm as they come out of stun

[queen peak]

If I'm not playing against feral/assass

[lean burrow]

war banner with your big go

[lavish heron]

damn willa fitzgerald is kinda finnnnne

reacher aint to bad

[vivid gale]

ty

[lavish heron]

but aye if i get disarmed its usually a stun on them

or parry

when its back up then i burst

easier now you got ignore pain

does impeding victory work disarmed?

[past dune]

For my arms war i have 29 vers 18 mast 16 crit

[uneven turret]

fuckkkkk, why does every arms build have rend

[lavish heron]

cos we like it\

[low cobalt]

How are you guys using skull splitter? On cd like ms or only during burst windows?

[lavish heron]

and does more damage than slam

[past dune]

Im not running rend

[queen peak]

Adjust the build to not have rend

[burnt hull]

running rend or/and skull splitter is cringe useless button

[late nacelle]

yep

300k hits is cringe

dont partake

[burnt hull]

just spear and

[dusk prairie]

Is Skullsplitter actually hitting good? Haven't tried it out yet

[lavish heron]

pops all your rend ticks off in one go

hitting hard

[late nacelle]

150-200k is a normal sks

if u get lucky u can hit 300k+

[burnt hull]

no shot

[late nacelle]

yup

[uneven turret]

whats btter, TR or Spear foR arms

[dusk prairie]

I wondered if the tide of blood 30% buff to it would offset the nerfs way back

[late nacelle]

depends on if u run sks or not

[robust hamlet]

do you guys have a ubrst rotation for sks by chance?

[burnt hull]

spear on every spec

if u are not running spear u are a loser and should reroll dk

[late nacelle]

rend -> ALL CDS + CS -> SKS

its really good

[zealous nova]

dks still rotting hard after "nerf"

[modern grail]

does CS not affect damage of rend?

[late nacelle]

it does

[uneven turret]

y

[modern grail]

no snapshot?

[late nacelle]

nope

[modern grail]

noice

[burnt hull]

#pvp message

[late nacelle]

i dont think i've done a single sks against dummy below 300k

[modern grail]

do you care about refreshing grievous before sks

[late nacelle]

and this is like

30 of em in a row

onetapped a mage from 80% once

[merry shoal]

is this cap?

[late nacelle]

on his hip

[urban skiff]

apparently the dummy does not have armor so don't trust your damage against it

test on players

[mint dagger]

any 1 know were the drakebreaker upgrade vendor went?

[late nacelle]

i have

[lethal niche]

if i use the catalyst on a drakebreaker piece it will still being 421 pvp ilvl?

[merry shoal]

how do you get sks to hit for 300k

[late nacelle]

dummy doesnt have vers or armor

this is correct

[modern grail]

use honor upgrade vendor

[urban skiff]

use pvp upgrade vendor to upgrade blues to epics

[late nacelle]

you will still hit 200k+ in arenas

this is also correct

assuming

they dont use a wall

[lethal niche]

why?

[modern grail]

don't try to get philosophical about it, just do it

[urban skiff]

because that's where they moved the epic drakebreaker items

[mint dagger]

i put hte item in and it says it can no longer be upgraded

[mint dagger]

i put the item in and it says it can no longer be upgraded

[late nacelle]

its disabled

try tomorrow

blame NA

[modern grail]

somehow i was able to upgrade strife gear yestrday while others said it was disabled. didn't deduct any of my strifes lol got 3 pieces for free

[lethal niche]

i cant upgrade honor pvp gear to tier gear

only drakebreaker

[modern grail]

correct

that's what they meant

[lethal niche]

so wait until they fix it or what?

[lean burrow]

it's not bug

[modern grail]

you'll never be able to upgrade honor blues to epics. upgrade drakebreaker, and use conq to buy purples

then use catalyst to get tier

[lethal niche]

i didnt play the 2 last patches on shadowlands so idk a shit about how this upgrade thing works

[uneven turret]

would u hold WB for 1 min TR?

[modern grail]

talk to the rock man where alex is on the spire for the quest. 1 charge per week to convert gear into tier

[lethal niche]

mmmm so i have to spend conquest on the items before change it to tier pieces

[modern grail]

correct, or get it from vault. drakebreaker can also become tier

[lethal niche]

but with drakebreaker tooltip tell me it will be 421 pvp

not 424

[modern grail]

small dif, but if you want to minmax it then don't upgrade until you have conquest gear

i'll be doing the same

[lethal niche]

one last question

blacksmith boots or conquest ones?

i got conquest one in the weekly today

[modern grail]

do not buy conq helm or boots, get the crafted ones using Primal Chaos

and sparks

[lethal niche]

i had it

my brother made it for me

[vital breach]

Should i buy crafted boots even as orc?

[lethal niche]

so i have to choose between 5% cc reduction or crit stat

[modern grail]

yes, all classes take them. the 5% and stats are BiS

check what the top 50 are doing here https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/solo
49 have crafted boots

[lethal niche]

so i will save the conquest crit one on the bank

[modern grail]

make that 50 now

[echo musk]

Anyone got a macro that will change between Wrecking/Shattering throw depending on which talent is selected?

[modern grail]

/cast [known:Wrecking Throw] Wrecking Throw; [known:Shattering Throw] Shattering Throw

doesn't even need showtooltip. idk why

[rancid granite]

bless u greyson

[modern grail]

:]

[lavish heron]

nicer

all my macros incorporated the old talent tree

aint got round to sorting it yet

[echo musk]

Thanks brother

[minor heath]

simply doing this also works

/cast Wrecking Throw
/cast Shattering Throw

[lavish heron]

gotta press twice tho for shattering? if wrecking isnt there

[minor heath]

nope, whatever u have learned it will do - it will ignore the other

[lavish heron]

huh fair

used to be twice

that makes it easier

[minor heath]

mine looks like this:
#showtooltip Wrecking Throw
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Wrecking Throw
/cast Shattering Throw

it will show CD for shattering throw as well, but the icon will be wrecking throw

or no nvm, it wont

[stuck zinc]

can anyone dispel fatal mark?

[heavy canyon]

maybe bop?

[barren vale]

How good is fatal mark?

I know Mud likes it.

[heavy canyon]

awesome if they let you pve on a warlock or something

[barren vale]

I love PvEing on warlocks

[heavy canyon]

yeah once they hit 30% its pretty much gameover unless they can port

[barren vale]

Had one go 0-6 into my DK and 2 warriors Monday night lol

[heavy canyon]

haha

[barren vale]

Dude had a bad time

[coral axle]

Lock into triple melee is pain, especially if they are affli

[modern grail]

wew got my full mog now

[barren vale]

He was destro

[coral axle]

You just get ur hole spread for 6 rounds straight

[modern grail]

this is also handy since i usually swap one for the other
/cast [known:War Banner] War Banner; [known:Disarm] Disarm

[coral axle]

At least destro can do some damage when getting ganged

[barren vale]

And was destroyed

[coral axle]

It's hard as hell, I had the most 0-6 out of all my toons learning how to play destro in melee hell

[barren vale]

Casting chaos bolt with melee on your face is not ideal

[coral axle]

You just don't ever use chaos bolt with the boys in your tight

Some dude in the AWC went as far as to spec into rain of fire to spend soul shards instead

Then nobody can kick you on it

[modern grail]

idk why there were two 0 cr healers in my SS to get 1800 lol but i guess i'll take it

actually i think they were also 0 mmr, which may go without saying

[fair tide]

some good variety this game

[untold adder]

Is destro really good now?

[heavy canyon]

its definitely better than it was, good though? idk

[modern grail]

still arguably weakest lock spec

prob squishiest

[next herald]

How are you supposed Not to tilt in SS man

When your Pala healer died 3 Times because He refused to bubble

[modern grail]

SS just feels low stakes to me. if someone sucks then rock their shit, then win 1/3 and gain mmr over time

[next herald]

Sadly when more than one Person is Shit you cannot Carry solo all the time

[modern grail]

sure but if you're better than your MMR then you'll climb to where the competent players are. every round i lose i pretty much know what i did wrong/could have done better.
stancing, peeling, cc'ing, tracking CDs better, positioning, swapping

[next herald]

When im solo running down that Pala i cannot reach him until He runs Out of two freedoms and im Missing the burst so He can bubble while the two enemy dds train down my healer

[barren vale]

Usually doing it 3 times means he'll do it 6 times and just take the 3-3 and +0 and move on

[oak heath]

This keeps happening to me. I'm currently 1300. I'm accepting that I have a lot to learn about the game as a whole, and my eyes are adjusting to WoW's flow after years of not playing. I feel like I know arms well, and can do the job well enough at this point. But at my rating, everything is absolutely nuts. People just die with massive CDs up, some people don't cc or burst so my games are completely unpredictable

It's hard for me not to tilt and get frustrated, but I just have to keep playing my best until I get out

[modern grail]

100%. pretty much everything up until 1800, you're better off just dumping your cools at the start and globaling someone. if that doens't work, it's prob cause someone spent their wall then you know who your focus target is

[oak heath]

But for instance, I've died one time in all of the games I played yesterday, so of 72 rounds, I died in 1

[modern grail]

rounds are so quick there's no sense playing it like 3s. there's no trading CDs tactically lmao it's zug

[oak heath]

True

[spice hornet]

what power for unity are we putting ?

plz n ty

[modern grail]

as long are you're smart with your defs and positioning decent, kiting enemy melee out of LoS you'll climb consistently

[fair tide]

try to hold on to your burst for a few in the first little bit of a match, you can most likely get a wall of some sort w/o having to sacrifice cds to trade at that low of mmr

then when wall is down you can start to pop

[modern grail]

true. what i've found is CSmash, sharpen, spear will usually get a wall. then avatar the next

[next herald]

That doesnt Help me when my healer gets trained and Runs to Hogwarts and im in a snare

And my Second dps Just Tunnels someone at the end If the Map and dies

[modern grail]

i mean yeah but you get to play against those 2 people 3 times as well. i'm sure they don't magically get better on the other team. then it's up to you to find 1 more win while playing with an idiot and you climb

sometimes you gotta babysit with hams, stuns, fears, and disarms

[next herald]

I tried that so often today

But it didnt helped me

[obsidian loom]

is the 476 upgrade drakebreakers a meme or no?

[oak heath]

Yes and No

[modern grail]

some people are saying upgrades are disabled, which wasn't the case for me yesterday and my gear was scaling appropriately

[obsidian loom]

so it doesnt scale to 476?

[oak heath]

The item upgrade says it will scale to 476, but it won't actually. BUT when you upgrade with 18 trophies in your inventory, the vendor won't take your trophies at all, but still upgrade the gear

So the vendor is disabled rn

[warm sigil]

Anyone tryng fury?

[modern grail]

arms is still better but fury is fine now

[lean burrow]

16 seconds on slaughterhouse might be longest ms in game now

[oak heath]

[merry valley]

I am feels pretty good in 2k

[onyx marlin]

whats wrong with healers mmr rn, its intentional or bug

2k getting x2 1600 healers every game, win 5 0 points and gl winning 5

[oak heath]

healers got opened up to perform at lower and higher MMR in general

[onyx marlin]

nice

time to leave the game

[oak heath]

because they're so rare

so queue times are faster, but but you might be a 0 exp healer going against a 2k one in a 1500 lobby

[onyx marlin]

i rather wait 1 hour and get x2 healers at my rating than get 2 1500 healers every 10 min

dropped from 2300 to 1870

[oak heath]

I like how blizzard is at least trying to fix issues but idk, this current team seems to be struggling to find viable solutions with making people upset

[fair tide]

I wonder what the AWC comps are gonna be today

[oak heath]

Is AWC playing on the old build or did they change classes in the middle of it

[fair tide]

think it's the new patch

[oak heath]

changing around specs in the middle of the tourney seems kinda wild, right?

[turbid ember]

Why am I in a solo shuffle w/ 0 healers and 2 prot paladins?

[spare basalt]

any fury warriors willing to share pvp build

[copper rivet]

anyone have a decent build for fury in solo shuffle

[uneven turret]

is fury back?

@@

[copper rivet]

it never left

[spare basalt]

^

[uneven turret]

pretty sure fury left the house towards the end of 10.0

[low cobalt]

is warrior a gud class in world of worcraft?

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[uneven turret]

Is warrior a class in world of warcraft? Answer is, maybe.

it could be a meme.

[copper rivet]

any pvp fury wonna dm me plz

[crude bane]

elem sham vs me 35K dps in my team 20K dps hehehehehehe

[turbid ember]

You let any fury just slide into your DMs?

[fair tide]

so much QQing on the forums lol

[spare basalt]

zugabunga

[uneven turret]

on?

[turbid ember]

Probably warriors

[torpid prawn]

fury will always be my guilty pleasure

[fair tide]

Wars

[sharp meteor]

every ret with a checkpvp like this saying that their spec didn't deserve nerfs

[coral axle]

Reading the blizzard forums

[uneven turret]

arms or fury

[fair tide]

first three threads

[sharp meteor]

ah yes it begins

[copper rivet]

tf is wrong with warrior mobility to much ?

[turbid ember]

Warriors have great mobility

[fair tide]

this ones a gem

[torpid prawn]

inc. nerf

[copper rivet]

thats real tho omegalul

[turbid ember]

That's straight up cope

[fair tide]

I really hope todays AWC isn't littered w/ wars

leave us alone

[copper rivet]

it will be

100%

[torpid prawn]

arms will definitely be hotfixed

in the next update

[fair tide]

hotfix what?

whats so broken about wars?

[worthy fern]

These ppl are on crack

It feels barely different

[muted surge]

Arms is the most broken spec

[turbid ember]

They hate they lost their ez train target

[worthy fern]

It even still dies

[fair tide]

It's not the most broken spec lol

[worthy fern]

Not as tanky as some other melee

It’s good

[turbid ember]

Casters are more tanky

[worthy fern]

All of them

[muted surge]

Ip sucks tbh

[fair tide]

casters are pist about anything that touches them

[turbid ember]

maybe not boomy

[muted surge]

40k shield yay

[worthy fern]

It really does

[turbid ember]

50k shield after you take 100k damage

[fair tide]

IP serves it purpose

helps with anger management

[turbid ember]

Also which gets dampened

So essentially it goes from 50% reduced damage to 40% reduced

What other damage reduction gets treated that way

[lean burrow]

why are you so OP, warriors?

[long ridge]

fucking single digit iq idiots crying about warriors

get a life

[oak heath]

any other on demand shield

[simple rock]

lol had two 2200 healers in a 2700 lobby

solo shuffle is unplayable now

[oak heath]

DH is lowkey still way better than war even after being nerfed like 10 times

[fair tide]

kek

[oak heath]

their damage kit, cc and survival loadout is still way better

[copper hare]

you're delusional

If you think a free 55k shield every 11 seconds sucks

then you better go play minecraft

[merry valley]

so how does Wrecking Throw works into Ignore Pain? does like half the dmg then that half gets 500% boost?

[muted surge]

Compared to how some people display it?

It’s a great addition for arms

[pearl prism]

So whats the verdict? Arms much better now? Im just logging in for first time niow

[turbid ember]

On-demand shield? You mean priest shields and warlock shields need to take double their shields damage to get the full effect?

This shit is troll. My first SS game had no healers and 2 prot paladins. 2nd game someone instantly leaves as soon as we get into the game.

[near delta]

Pikaboo is playing war now so it's already happening haha

[high sparrow]

its not going to happen lmao

and pikaboo was already playing warrior before

[near delta]

Yeah just didnt expect it on TR lol

[high sparrow]

warriors good, nowhere near as broken as people here say

this is the most optimistic class discord ive ever seen

[long ridge]

it's all fucking new people coming in here after patch

crying about warriors as if they haven't been shit this whole time

[near delta]

Yeah probably

[high sparrow]

its like when fury got all the nerfs and people here were saying it wasnt that bad and that the slaughterhouse changes werent even a nerf (????)

[copper hare]

it feels waaay better

but arms really gets enabled with a good healer

[oak heath]

most people here think the war kit is fine, but not overtuned at all. I do decent damage and can survive longer but I can't stand in the open like pre-nerf UH

[sharp meteor]

ya 5k hps almost for free is pretty okay

[oak heath]

i think arms is fine, probably still outclassed by assas and dh, but I think arms feels nice and evened out now without being too nuts

[high sparrow]

100% agree

arms feels like its exact where it should be rn

[modern grail]

I’m taking credit for this btw. $20/reset for coaching and we’ll get you to 2400 by spring

[pearl prism]

Okay so with it being 11s cd, I guess it needs its own key bind then

[oak heath]

i went 5-1 the next round and then 1-5 the next. my priest died in the opener 3 rounds, and when i faced him he was an unkillable god

v suspicious

[modern grail]

It’s weird my dam feels… fine, but I’ll still be 3 out of 4 on meters every match. Sharpen stronk

[modern grail]

He must be lurking here

[high sparrow]

damage on the board is important, but its not the only thing that matters

[lean burrow]

new people

joined 2022 nov

[high sparrow]

bfa arms did a lot of scoreboard damage with deep wounds top damgur, but couldnt kill anything on its own

[lean burrow]

stop being so OP, warriors

[hazy isle]

Idk people made it sound like ip will be the gamechanger and 2nd coming of christ

[long ridge]

so.. i joined 4 months before any buffs... lol

[lean burrow]

need 6 seconds intervene now and we are the best now

[hazy isle]

But i feel like the talent changes were much more significant

[lean burrow]

[long ridge]

i literally joined when dragonflight came out

[lean burrow]

it's been 4 months already

[pearl prism]

Guys now that Arms has been buffed, do you all think I'll finally be able to find a girlfriend in WoW?

[long ridge]

no

[oak heath]

im typically 1 or 2 each round vs double melee but those double caster lobbies vs lock/ele when I have trouble connecting with a target then I'll be like 3 or 4

[long ridge]

that is hopeless

[tame sphinx]

is skullsplitter banging in pvp or what

[modern grail]

I was set on maiming enh but blizz unironically hates enh. Got to 1950 on ele in like 2 weeks and noped out with the dk dh spam. Nty

[modern grail]

How much are you target swapping?

[high sparrow]

i had a game on blades edge with ele, frost mage, 2 priests

think i had 15% uptime every game between all the knockbacks and roots

[bright stream]

people target swap far too often in my experience, you should be swapping during defensive cds on main target, for positioning reasons, and if you can confidently kill a healer

but people swap often because 'it's not working'

[pearl prism]

Anyone swapping out Gladiator's health boost trinket now that we have IP? I kind of need advice because i need to figure what trinket ot get from vault reward

[fair tide]

really hope pika plays war in AWC and gets smoked by a rogue

[pearl prism]

Anyone able to help me out?

Or provide their thoughts?

I'm gnome btw

Bot human

Not*

[long ridge]

no gnomes allowed

[hazy isle]

Why would he do that if rogue is as good if not better

[fair tide]

he's talking about it

[high sparrow]

give me a tldr, cant watch rn

[mild thunder]

Depends on the matchup tbh. I haven’t even used health boost trinket yet this season as a human, but anytime you think you’ll get trained, I’d take it

[fair tide]

hes wargaming w/ wiz and ab

as war

for warmups

[pearl prism]

I've actually been noticing that people are training me less recently. Before latest patch. So maybe might swap it out more regularly with IP

[crude bane]

only way to win a solo shuffle under 2K1 : burst healer he use cd dead second go

[sharp meteor]

wrecking throwed a mw for 190k the other day

[copper hare]

4p dps is juicy

https://gyazo.com/fc635a7f01ecac7114c83be971b8f9e3

lol

[mild thunder]

Oh god, bajheera is using ToM

[fair tide]

theres a total of 10 wars in this wsg

ughhhh

[high sparrow]

how much of that was warlock pet pad damage tho

[copper hare]

Not much

[oak heath]

I really would like to get my drakebreaker's weapon at least bc I wont be able to get it with conquest until like 2 weeks for the cap increase. kinda shot myself in the leg. Almost fully conq, 2 tier, double infurious and like blue belt and trinkets but still 411 wep

tfw no dam

[modern grail]

You goofed not pooling conq and getting it after your first vault, assuming you haven’t been playing since 1st week

[oak heath]

nah I didnt start pvping this exp until like 3 weeks ago

im debating on putting more resources into my second war and just kinda starting fresh

prio her weapon after first vault, grab infurious. I think that's less daunting with catalyst

[main urchin]

Any of these arms buffs a must have? Just looking over stuff now, looks pretty good

[modern grail]

Wouldn’t hurt to run both if you feel like leveling another. You can ladder them up rating and use your low cr for warmups and goofing with that silly ass sks build

[oak heath]

Yeah I'm definitely no experienced enough with the game in general to make any serious push on whatever character

[mild thunder]

Wdym a must have?

[oak heath]

maybe in a few seasons

[undone pumice]

?

[mild thunder]

He recommended test of might in his guide

[undone pumice]

who

??

[main urchin]

Just looking at changes, fiddling

[undone pumice]

who is test of might

[mild thunder]

Bajheera

[undone pumice]

who is test of might

[mild thunder]

The fucking talent

[undone pumice]

i know who bajheerer is

wtf does it do

[mild thunder]

Next to in for the kill… spend x rage, get x strength after colsmash

[modern grail]

It searches google for you

[undone pumice]

lol

[main urchin]

lol

[undone pumice]

sounds superemely shit

[mild thunder]

It is

It’s also nerfed by 66% or something in pvp lmao… you can maybe get a 10% str buff max

[modern grail]

Wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a way to know how fucked the pvp scaling on talents was, outside of fucking guessing in class discords

Legit curious if it’s compiled somewhere

[mild thunder]

There’s a link to a website that shows it all