pvp

[mild thunder]

can already see the 10,000 bland questions each day

and people getting upset over being told to check pins

[smoky anchor]

I've been a warrior main since 2005 when i made a warrior and couldn't stand leveling past level 10

[nimble jasper]

warrior probably has the most stubborn onetricks out of any class tbh

[smoky anchor]

Char remained lvl 10 till i deleted him in BFA and level boosted to 60

or whatever the max was at that time

[nimble jasper]

but playing meleecleave is so braindead

literally pve simulator

[onyx marlin]

buffs cant come soon enough

i feel like paper

🥲

[copper hare]

lol have you played mage lock

can't get more pve and braindead

[onyx marlin]

mediocre healer just cant keep an arms up

literally impossible

[copper hare]

funny enough shuffle for arms is getting easier the higher you get

because when you start playing with good healers arms feels sooo much better

[pure hornet]

I am a warrior main from the country of warriors here in Mageland. No other class lives here but warr. And some ocazional thiefes hunters dk monks and rets, but mostly warriors. At least on 31 february we are only warriors in the country.

[nimble jasper]

yeah i only support melee caster comps

[pure hornet]

True

[nimble jasper]

only entertaining meleecleave comp I’ve seen

[copper hare]

or even jungle in his best days, it's literally pet stun into trap and then tunnel one target into damp

[nimble jasper]

is ww sub

[copper hare]

there is a a lot of braindead comps

[worthy fern]

As a war main I hate melee cleave

[nimble jasper]

comp’s just hilarious how fast you can erase

multiple healthbars

[worthy fern]

Give me wlx or sp war all day

[wheat jay]

KFC best Comp

[nimble jasper]

ret warr was peak degenerate

wings banner

gogogo

we’re so good at wow

[onyx marlin]

yeah

[nimble jasper]

ret paladins complaining about mobility

while i get radiant decree up my asshole

for 170k

[sharp meteor]

3k retwarrs in unchained

missin conq banner

[signal wasp]

decree can be dispelled...

[sharp meteor]

on their teammates

[nimble jasper]

[nimble jasper]

yeah let me dispel in a stun

[light sierra]

did some research but still cant figure....so does rend snapshot at any point or do i just apply it <4sec?

[mild thunder]

???

[nimble jasper]

guys

s3 sepsis was fine

just dispel

[mild thunder]

how tf do you dispel decree lmao

[wheat jay]

Who needs mobility when you're ranged

[sage raptor]

I gotta be honest, I miss all of the cov abilities.

[copper hare]

Usually you can apply it at <4 sec but currently it's rather used as a rage dump, since the rend initial already does more dmg than a slam

and rend initial will do even more dmg tomorrow

[nimble jasper]

i miss kyrian war metas

[sage raptor]

Does it really do more than slam.

[copper hare]

yes.

[worthy fern]

@light sierra it will dynamically increase in dmg with buffs

[nimble jasper]

only cuz half the warriors are too dumb to hamstring

[mild thunder]

all the cov abilities except banner

[sage raptor]

That's crazy

[nimble jasper]

and whiff spear

[mild thunder]

banner was boringo

[light sierra]

thank you for your answers guys!

[nimble jasper]

condemn was bad design

esp in sinful

[mild thunder]

bad design, but it at least made exploiter playable

[copper hare]

Imagine when you think it's a good idea to nerf slam by 150% on beta just so people have to spend fucking 5-6 points for it to do the same damage as last expansion

[sage raptor]

I can see why you'd say that. It was the least interesting. Ancient Aftershock was a cool ability that never got used.

[nimble jasper]

i mean

maybe if death sentence

wasnt a thing

[mild thunder]

aftershock was super fun in s1, it just felt like it scaled horribly

[signal wasp]

Sorry meant grounding totem'd https://youtu.be/L1_Q1-6sSb4?t=582

[nimble jasper]

death sentence

orc sephuz

condemn warrior

more boosted than dh players

[mild thunder]

thats exe sentence

you cant grounding totem decree

[signal wasp]

ah...gotcha

[mild thunder]

but yea ES is avoidable in a lotta ways... if you're sitting around and not prepping for it, you're a dud

venruki

[elfin surge]

https://twitter.com/xElectricSheep/status/1617970954126385152?s=20&t=oFTlT266vtpaBqhoxexs1A
@steep inlet

Sheep (@xElectricSheep)

PSA to all prot warriors and prot paladins. With the arrival of the patch today, you'll be able to transmog these lances with shields. You're welcome. ;)

Twitter · Jan 24, 2023, 7:41 PM

[cinder thorn]

Hi, what are you doing:
A) on warrior melee cleave brain dead pve discord
B) of all channels in the warrior pvp one

Doesn't seem like you belong here dude

[sage raptor]

Ay yoooo

[steep inlet]

wtf insane i love it

[mild thunder]

thats pretty dope

[nimble jasper]

you can play other comps

besides meleecleave

[brazen rock]

we all love mich

[nimble jasper]

like wlx or wpx

[mild thunder]

you gotta show off your tmog with it, troma

[cinder thorn]

OK but melee cleave has been always there since start of melee in every game ever

Nothing wrong with it

[rancid granite]

tldr of what cleave / melee cleave even means?

[mild thunder]

its a bit braindead and boring

[rancid granite]

i keep hearing it but too afraid to ask too lazy to google

[cinder thorn]

I prefer melee caster also but if people wanna cleave why not dude

Let them

Cleave has weaknesses such as roots slows kiting etc

[rancid granite]

cleave to me is warrior skill

[brazen rock]

i dont think he said people shouldn't play melee cleave.

[cinder thorn]

If you worry about things like blessing of freedom just dispel it and root the fuckers

[topaz tulip]

So is roar the way to go now or still spear?

[brazen rock]

who knows

server aint up

[mild thunder]

no one is sure yet

[nimble jasper]

also i just remembered you forgot to add:

1. look for some jungles to snipe for puntos
2. dodge any rmp near your rating

[mild thunder]

be a gigachad, ignore TRoar and spear, take shockwave

[topaz tulip]

Fuck no

[copper hare]

queue into solo shuffle, shockwave first global, dr everything, make every dh/rogue logoff instantly

[proud breach]

shockwave mop

[cinder thorn]

I like this

Let them see you sharpening your sword and preparing it for execute mmmm

[nimble jasper]

guy warbanners air

oh wait im almost dead anyway

cuz conq banner wings

no one can convince me otherwise that retwarr was the most problematic comp

in SL

[mild thunder]

imagine if shockwave was good, and not just a grief ability for actual stun classes

[sharp meteor]

Spent two seasons of SL just warbannering when I pressed smash/ava.

[copper hare]

destru/frost mage was by far the most problematic

[cinder thorn]

Retwar is actually a great cooperative comp

[sharp meteor]

"dr bolt kill"

[topaz tulip]

So like..legion? lol

[mild thunder]

wdym? you dont like having to hide for 40 seconds on deathborne?

[nimble jasper]

"dr warstomp kill"

[cinder thorn]

Ret and war compliment each other nicely I don't know why you dislike it

[copper hare]

infernal stun was the most obnoxious thing I've witnessed I think

[sharp meteor]

Entrenched in Flames

[copper hare]

except for fighting rmp for a decade maybe

[nimble jasper]

turbo actually required

your enh to be somewhat decent

ret in retwar...

[mild thunder]

kitty cleave is fun tho, miles ahead of other melee cleaves imo

at least it was in SL, now the feral can be a drooling turd and still output 50k sustained

[nimble jasper]

kitty is aight as long as it isnt

kindred bond kitty

💀

[nimble jasper]

rogue and mage compliment each other nicely

does that mean i should not dislike that comp

💀

[cinder thorn]

But the whole idea of a comp is that they compliment each other and people play them to good effect

[nimble jasper]

"oh we got nades want me to global him in duel"

ahahaha

[cinder thorn]

Globaling is a separate issue and they're addressing burst in the 10.0.5

[nimble jasper]

retwar was just

peak ungabunga

now people dont play it

[flat dome]

"Addressing"

[nimble jasper]

rps stonks 📈

[cinder thorn]

What do you want man

They beefing up health and reducing burst what more do u want

[nimble jasper]

maybe pika's team doesnt finish this awc year below top 4

[cinder thorn]

It's a good change

[flat dome]

Whether it does anything is to be determined

[nimble jasper]

hes saying its not enough

TR games are legit

2mins

[cinder thorn]

What do you want 30min matches?

Raid boss vs raid boss style arenas

As long as people have time to react to stuff it's good

Right now it's a bit too fast

[flat dome]

Lol

[nimble jasper]

1min awc matches

[cinder thorn]

So they making it better with this change

[nimble jasper]

"a bit too fast"

[copper hare]

It's so weird how SL arenas felt in the end, like oneshotty but still 10+ min games

[nimble jasper]

cuz it was super cd centric

so good players that know how to trade live

[copper hare]

specially ret war, you could either get globaled in a blink of an eye or play games for 15 min

[cinder thorn]

Yes and now they making it less cd centric and more sustainable

So it's good

[wheat jay]

Except that sustain is just burst but at all times xD

[nimble jasper]

@wheat jay did you watch bicmex's team

[copper hare]

I think it's better aswell, but the big problem is dampening right now. Dmg is not healable at the 2-3 min mark anymore

[nimble jasper]

they did p well with surv thug

XD

[copper hare]

that's why it's so extremely frustrating to play healers

you have zero impact on the games

[nimble jasper]

ngl was funny as fuck

zenlyn playing on

hotspot data

[flat dome]

Remove dampening. Make it so healers go oom

[wheat jay]

Healer in 30s CC, bic+priest still cant kill ele sham

[nimble jasper]

also let's be real

rdruids

make any match damp

[wheat jay]

Was fun to watch tho

[nimble jasper]

according to random low end players tho

[wheat jay]

And then its back to dh xD

[nimble jasper]

ele is squishy

allegedly

owo

[copper hare]

I don't know why rdruid need a 30 sec cd heal that makes a target immortal

[wheat jay]

Ele is not squishy

[copper hare]

ele is squishy, but it becomes tanky with a rdruid

[wheat jay]

Time Dilation

[nimble jasper]

emerald communism

[cinder thorn]

I like this, that's how it used to be long time ago

Oomkin

[tame sphinx]

this makes no sense, you are racing the other healer to who loses someone first, I don't see how damp is the problem with arenas

[wheat jay]

Games going deep damp sucks

But at the moment problem is that CC barely matters

At all

[nimble jasper]

rdruids make everyone

feel immortal

idk its dumb

[wheat jay]

People just die with healers doing pve rotation on them

[flat dome]

Tranq shouldn't make them immortal

[wheat jay]

Emerald communism does the same thing

[cinder thorn]

Going to sleep goodnight nerds

[wheat jay]

Good night sleep tight

[nimble jasper]

lizards are dumb

both specs

[wheat jay]

Dont let the dh bite

[cinder thorn]

hugs swords and lies down

[wheat jay]

[lucid walrus]

went down for a nap and servers still not up

tragic

[near delta]

A melee cleave is just a nickname for comps with 2 melee specs.

[slim knoll]

Do we have any arms builds for the new patch from PTR testers?

[tribal nimbus]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAAAOVQVRVFUBVCVFERCRE

thoughts on this arms tree build?

[lucid walrus]

pulls up blank for me

nvm

[onyx marlin]

why skullsplitter without rend

[lucid walrus]

looks fine but not sure why slam talent over rend if you've got sks

[onyx marlin]

remove slam and put tide of blood

and get rend somehow too

[tribal nimbus]

had no clue how good skullsplitter is without rend since it still breaks deep wounds

[onyx marlin]

cool that arms can get 3 last row talents tbh xd

[lucid walrus]

bloodsurge much worse than improved overpower too

[teal cedar]

is there a quick "catch up" guide somewhere for players who havent played in forever (like there were no monks/demon hunters etc last time i played)

looking for things to be afraid of and things you want to stand in (like just learned about the priest bubble thingy)

[tribal nimbus]

oh yeah?

didnt know that

that makes sense

[lucid walrus]

yeah, we shouldn't have many rage issues

really eager to see what overpower can hit with new talents tbh

[tribal nimbus]

well ill drop improved slam and critical thinking for rend and tide of blood?

[copper hare]

bloodsurge might have more value with IP, but other talents probably still have more value

[copper hare]

yes fuck slam

[slim knoll]

the meta is gonna be bleed build?

[fair tide]

bleed? I dont think so

[flat dome]

Possibly

Remains to be seen how much damage Troar deals

[mild thunder]

skullsplitter is horrible

same as FbV

[topaz tulip]

When skullsplitter is used, does it just end the bleed early, or does it make all stacks tick faster?

[mild thunder]

it makes all the stacks tick instantly, but it does shit damage

[flat dome]

It just occured to me. Bloodsurge with aoe rending sounds cracked as fuck

[rancid granite]

ty.

[mild thunder]

and it decreases your next ms by ~20% because you dont have deep wounds on the target

[mild thunder]

would be, if we had good spenders

[near delta]

Np! If you have some time and want a hilarious explanation of all the comp names check this out. https://youtu.be/zeGg7jeuSRo

[mild thunder]

ive found in m+ you're pretty much always rage capped

[rancid granite]

saved lol

[flat dome]

Guess it depends on how much IP is gonna take a toll on rage

I mean, theoretically you could just macro IP to all your abilities lol

[mild thunder]

it wont

[topaz tulip]

But if you could roar, apply bleeds, and then skullsplit before it ends, wouldn't that still give you decent damage? Maybe even fatality?

[mild thunder]

40 rage every 11 seconds will not tax your rage noticeably

[mild thunder]

sks really doesnt do much damage... it was mediocre before and then rend got nerfed because blizz was scared of it

and it doesnt expire roar

and yea popping fatality without deep wounds up is a waste

[topaz tulip]

Makes sense

[shut barn]

DO u guys ever use fatality ?

[mild thunder]

will be probably

[topaz tulip]

I've been considering it lately. Ptr builds seem to be throwing it in now too

[dusk prairie]

sks does have a 30% buff in the next talent now though. not sure it makes up for the original rend nerf

[mild thunder]

what?

oh the base damage on sks

yea still shit

[shut barn]

i feel like when u are forced to not play unhinged everything else doesnt suit the build even the execute talent

[dusk prairie]

tide of blood talent

[mild thunder]

what do you mean?

[fair tide]

another hour tacked on

[shut barn]

like when uare playing vs locks

or dks

or hunters

[mild thunder]

how do the other talents not work?

[shut barn]

what do u take other than execute talent ?

that buffs ur ms

[mild thunder]

maybe im being retarded, but i genuinely dont understand what you're asking

[copper hare]

I'm probably gonna start playing like this. Just taking longer sweeping instead vs melee cleaves and replacing unhinged vs demo/dk

https://gyazo.com/2b289f48fb80e575af9351120a350214

[shut barn]

s1 sl lego

[mild thunder]

yes, before 10.0.5 i almost always took EP

[mild thunder]

thank fuck, a sane build

[obtuse musk]

another hour...ill be in bed by the times servers come up

[mild thunder]

i'll probably run the same, Mave

[shut barn]

yeah ill run the same

[copper hare]

Idk if its worth to put points into bleed damage, might be better to put 2 points into critical thinking when you run spear

will see

like bleed for sure with roar, but without prolly meh

[mild thunder]

im definitely gonna be trying TRoar for a fair bit, just for a switch up

[shut barn]

im saying im allways playing unhinged when im not playing vs pet classes whenever i play vs them i dont really find any good talent to spend talent point on it

hope u understand

[mild thunder]

with the 10.0.5 talents or before?

[shut barn]

or ill just go offline

before

[mild thunder]

yea, just play EP when no unhinged

now, idk probably bloodletting

[shut barn]

but thats not really strong

compare to unhinged

[mild thunder]

EP is super strong

and anything is stronger than getting your ms procs soaked by pets

[hazy isle]

ep is much more fun imo than unhinged

[fair tide]

servers up

let the lag commence

[brazen rock]

u mean extended another hour

[long ridge]

i'm online

:I

[mild thunder]

no they're actually up

lol

[flat dome]

unironically

[brazen rock]

uh

they literally just extended maint till 5 pst

[mild thunder]

blizz trolling

[brazen rock]

but alright

lmao

[mild thunder]

they lied so that there's less lag

[fair tide]

it's trying to put me on emerald dream, tf?

[agile aspen]

my vault has been weapon/adaption trinket/boots 2 weeks in a row wtf

[teal cedar]

big brain move

[mild thunder]

imagine complaining about weapon in vault

[fair tide]

I'm not openeing vault incase of a rollback 😄

[flat dome]

Stuck on loading screen

[agile aspen]

are u telling me to play fury

[flat dome]

I bet I logged at vault

[topaz tulip]

Please let me have a fucking weapon in the vault

[mild thunder]

fuck

no

gross

[fair tide]

realm list is fucked lol

[topaz tulip]

Most of the realms are up it looks like, but a few are still down

[near delta]

I mean who hasn't bought one by now lol

[mild thunder]

my vault was useless

[fair tide]

what was in it?

[mild thunder]

didnt get enough for 6 tokens, and all the choices are useless 😐

[topaz tulip]

Alts lol

[near delta]

Fairr

[onyx marlin]

31% vers def stance

o7

see u in valhalla

[agile aspen]

skill issue

[onyx marlin]

healer telling me to use cd

[mild thunder]

alright, time to reroll out of arms because we lost 5% ms damage

[onyx marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

i have 364k hp, 234k is more than half my hp

[copper hare]

Nothing will ever beat this

https://gyazo.com/98534e601f259b54f62bb6b491aad740

[onyx marlin]

[fair tide]

kek

dude loves his fury

[onyx marlin]

i dropped from 2300 to 1840

fml

[green wyvern]

i never play fury

[mild thunder]

no shot someone said that

[agile aspen]

so take the weapon for fury? mixed signals

[thick reef]

there any arms builds yet?

[mild thunder]

no i was kidding please dont do that

[fair tide]

pikaboo on his warrior screaming how broken they are

kek

[thick reef]

Or has the meme died and fury is back on top?

[long ridge]

lol an assassination rogue

complaining about wars

[fair tide]

he's playing his war trying to gaslight

[green wyvern]

pikaboo cries all the time

[fair tide]

I can't even retrieve my realm list

[mild thunder]

less than Ven

[teal cedar]

pvp set helm worth it over infurious? i have pvp set shoulders

[copper hare]

are you from china by any chance?

https://www.wowhead.com/de/news/chinese-wow-servers-officially-and-indefinitely-offline-331109

lol

[fair tide]

def not

lol

I wonder how much impact that'll have on classic gold sellers

[mild thunder]

probs not, waste of conquest and tier charge long-term

[fair tide]

big rip

[mild thunder]

elite tabard still not out yet

[teal cedar]

what do you mean charge long term, typo? my other pvp choices were both the conq chests

[mild thunder]

creation catalyst charge

to convert tier

[teal cedar]

ahh

[green wyvern]

try to win one match for enchant/tabard

it might be bugged

[mild thunder]

ffs, i didnt wanna do shuffle tho

[flat dome]

Luckily I just got tier from vault

[robust hamlet]

did fury get talent points taken away from the warrior tree? no stances and no points to spend? lol

[kindred flame]

does arms go for 4 set?

[copper hare]

yes

[kindred flame]

yes, 4 set? because i finally got sword to drop in vault and i also got my 3rd piece of tier

im using drakebreakers sword

[teal cedar]

which 4, hands chest, shoulder, x?

[long ridge]

yeah

do it

[kindred flame]

its helm

[long ridge]

oh

[copper hare]

everything but head

[kindred flame]

okay

[long ridge]

helm not ideal....

[kindred flame]

ill skip

i want the sword anyways

gonna go see what the alt warrior got

and did we get tier upgrades this week?

[copper hare]

doesnt really matter, 2 set is like the more important thing. 4 set is just icing on the cake

[long ridge]

yes

catalyst

[kindred flame]

yeah

how do we do that

[long ridge]

quest in town i think about to look now

[kindred flame]

okay word

[mild thunder]

did anyone else get their tabard/illusion?

[kindred flame]

what tabard

[mild thunder]

elite tabard

[kindred flame]

ohhhh

[long ridge]

where do u get the illusion

i'm only duelist not elite

[kindred flame]

cant believe i got ignore pai, i coudl ry

[mild thunder]

not sure if it's implemented yet

[long ridge]

guess not cause i dont see it

[mild thunder]

like mike said, it could be bugged and need a win >2100/2400 to get it

wouldnt be unlikely

[kindred flame]

we still stacking crit even if we go bleed build with roar

or does mastery become more ideal

[mild thunder]

mastery is last no matter what

bleed builds dont make it any better... if anything haste => crit with bleeds, maybe

[kindred flame]

ahhh ok

but bigger crits = bigger bleeds

more crits = more bleeds

[flat dome]

More crits doesn't mean more bleeds

[mild thunder]

more crits = more fun

more haste = faster ticks

[flat dome]

I'm still running crit cause it pairs well with the overpower changes

[mild thunder]

yea i might bump my haste up to 15% but not more than that

you get 10% during colsmash anyway

[gentle horizon]

is anyone in the game rn?

[fair tide]

just got it

[long ridge]

how do i get the catalyst material 😦

[fair tide]

it does exist

[long ridge]

i h8 u

[sage raptor]

Dk dead spec

[turbid ember]

I got that week 1 on my first chest.

[mild thunder]

i wish

uhdk still gonna be stron

strong

[sage raptor]

I'm practicing for when it is

[near brook]

As arms, which tier pieces do we go for ideally?

[copper hare]

everything but head

[sage raptor]

Everything butthead

[worthy fern]

Anyone else still can’t get on

[near brook]

Cool thanks

[hazy isle]

yea

[near brook]

Got head and shoulders in my vault and the head had a socket, but the stats seemed not as good

[agile aspen]

yeah head is bad for plate generally but esp us

crafted has bis stats and the best embellish

[kindred flame]

anyone else cant get on?

oh

someone just said that lol

[near brook]

Wait we taking pvp still? Which crafted hell?

[fair tide]

did we always have a lightning effect on our tier set?

[kindred flame]

no i dont think so

[near brook]

Helm *

[robust hamlet]

anyone got an unhinged build i could slap on?

[long ridge]

oh fuck i got just dced

[hazy isle]

lmao

[long ridge]

arcane mages are good bro

why they need a stun too wtf

[hazy isle]

this guy was here

[long ridge]

my face when Eu has 3200 rated mage highest player ever

[hazy isle]

he was big mad

[turbid ember]

What's the name of the thing that lets us upgrade pieces to tier?

[long ridge]

catalyst

[turbid ember]

I'm not gonna be able to find how to get that just with that

[long ridge]

quest is on top of tower w/ dragons

in town

[limber pike]

is tier helm > infurious?

[long ridge]

no

u get the other 4 pieces of tier

[hazy isle]

still no tier in vault since the first week

[hearty horizon]

I'm sorry if this has been asked. Is fury picking up the 4-piece in the anhilliator build?

[limber pike]

got a tier helm in vault RIP

[turbid ember]

I got my 2pc so I'm fine with it. But one tier piece is the helm so there's that

[limber pike]

and pvp helm in vault lmfao

[kindred flame]

yeah i got helm on both toons, but this one is socketed

[flat dome]

So uuuuh

[kindred flame]

should i take it fi its my first tier?

[flat dome]

Overpower hits like a truck now lmao

[kindred flame]

on warr alt

[soft zodiac]

Ok boys someone tell me what arms build it is

Pls

[long ridge]

i dont think anyone knows until they play it a little

[kindred flame]

shit man just picka build it'l be better than the old build

but roar should be pretty legit

[mild thunder]

yea overpower hitting for around 80k during burst

noice

[long ridge]

on paper roar looks so good...

i will report back...

i hate missing spear so

[mild thunder]

not spearing feels weird tho

[long ridge]

i'm OK w/ it

[kindred flame]

yeah idk i dont love spear but i do lvoe the crit bonu

and sometimes spear slaps

[long ridge]

that's true

[kindred flame]

like when a rogue has no defensives left and you drop a spear and bladestorm him and hes dead in .5 secs

[inner sigil]

my server is full

rare asf

[errant phoenix]

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[real shuttle]

what is the current go to basic white boy arms pvp build for solo shuffling?

[turbid ember]

ez block

[slender plume]

Well shit's gonna change today

[real shuttle]

thats whhy im asking

any theorycrafts etc

[slender plume]

Man I can't even get into the game rn, anyone else having issues?

[quasi zephyr]

yyeah stuck at login

[inner sigil]

can blizzard ban people

for just being existant

[sharp meteor]

They don't need a reason to ban people.

Although they rarely do so.

[inner sigil]

also where tf is ignore pain

in my arms tree

[sharp meteor]

Parry heal talent node.

[inner sigil]

OH there it is

[mild thunder]

arms is back baby

lets fucking go

[real shuttle]

what build u running

[mild thunder]

was switching to bloodletting against uhdk

and nope, still no tabard or illusion, even after winning a game

[turbid ember]

I'm taking that but doing uproar probably

[mild thunder]

it feels like we have so much more going on with managing rage for IP, faster rotation, maintaining bleeds, using bladestorm more intelligently since you always have unhinged

its fun af

instead of 1-1-1-2-1-2-2-1-2-2-2-2-2

[copper hare]

uproar will definitely be good against specs that always press 1.30 def cds on your avatar anyways

[turbid ember]

But I can barely even think about breathing

[kindred flame]

bleed felt good?

[mild thunder]

ngl my rend uptime wasnt great lol, but TRoar felt really good

[kindred flame]

wahts ideal rotation for bleed, just keep rend up is the main dif?

[mild thunder]

pre much, can take thunder clap too if you want

[turbid ember]

No blood letting?

[mild thunder]

TC also deals more damage than slam

[barren vale]

got legs from vault, so pretty good.

What enchant do we take on weapon for arms?

[mild thunder]

swapped out unhinged when i was against the dk

[turbid ember]

Ah, alright. Makes sense

Oh you said that above, sorry about that

[kindred flame]

okay yeah thats a relaly god idea

i actually feel dumb having payed nhinged into dks for s long

cant type too excite

[scenic maple]

Real life gigachad

[real shuttle]

why is it bad against dk ?

[kindred flame]

mortal strieks slap pets i assume

[mild thunder]

pets soak your ms

[real shuttle]

aaah

[mild thunder]

classes with 1 pet are okay

[kindred flame]

i mean its always apparent i try to use it when he doesnt have 50 pets

[mild thunder]

but 2+ pets and it becomes bad

so fine into sv or ele

[real shuttle]

how does the rotation look like, keep bleeds MS on cooldown and slam ?

outside of the burst window i mean

[mild thunder]

never slam

rotate ms and op as usual, if you have bleed talents, maintain rend

IP pretty much on cd

[mint crypt]

why don't you get blood and thunder then ?

[mild thunder]

i noticed i pretty much never had to use rend as filler since ignore pain is a guaranteed overpower reset pre much

[scenic maple]

Did you feel way more agency with the IP absorbs running now?

[kindred flame]

wait does ignore pain reset op?

[mild thunder]

yea, felt good

also

uhdk literally falls over to casters

[fair tide]

op actually hitting hard now

[scenic maple]

How did their overall damage look with the Virulent Plague nerf?

[unreal harness]

yo who got the latest build

[kindred flame]

im getting 60k overpowers consistantly on target dummy

[mild thunder]

less than mine, but thats probably because arms is just bonkers now

[scenic maple]

GG

[inner zephyr]

any clue why my bladestorm macro with trinket stopped working?

[scenic maple]

Having trifecta bottom talents is insane

[real shuttle]

quick question, sharpen blade causes MS to reduce healing by 100%, what am I missing (reading the talent descriptions in calc)

[scenic maple]

50% in PvP

Else MS applies 25% only

[real shuttle]

ty for the clarification

[kindred flame]

has anyoen foudn out about the catalyst yet

[sharp meteor]

Hmm.

[kindred flame]

woah woah

dafuck

wait what on fuckin earth

[coral axle]

479 huh

[kindred flame]

ummmmmmm

[coral axle]

Lmao

[kindred flame]

everyone quick, exploit it

[mild thunder]

wtf

[kindred flame]

where do you even upgrade drakebreaks?

i thought you couldnt upgrae that shit

[sharp meteor]

Normal upgrade vendor.

I think it might've just gotten hotfixed.

[tame sphinx]

you'd have to have all those trophies sitting around

[kindred flame]

i still have 200 left from AH

[coral axle]

I got like 15

[fair tide]

try it

[kindred flame]

jk

[quasi zephyr]

how to do you get charged for the catalyst?

[brazen rock]

pickup quest in vald

[quasi zephyr]

charges

[brazen rock]

ontop of center spire

by the aspects.

[mild thunder]

apparently its not showing on map

so ppl confused

[kindred flame]

OMG JUST CRASHED IN FIRST SOLO SHUF

in the middle of first round

[quick carbon]

im not sure if thund roar or spear is better rn

thund roar was ticking for 30k critss in cds

kindda insane

[kindred flame]

all i know is we feel insane

i just slapped a first for 50k overpower irst lgovbel

global

[indigo barn]

Unchained level of arms let's go?

[coral axle]

Slapped so hard it crashed the game?

[kindred flame]

tbh ya i logged back in immediately and the game i sgone

no deserter

[coral axle]

Damn 8 hour maintenence and it's all still fucked

[kindred flame]

rip mustve crashed game

arms too strong, insta patched

still cant log my area 52 toons

[quasi zephyr]

so any ttype of grp content?

[fair tide]

took me forever too

[slender plume]

BRO MY VAULT IS TROLLING ME

[brazen rock]

[long ridge]

AHAHA

[slender plume]

I'm not crying you're crying

[undone pumice]

[modern grail]

an assortment of cock rings. take your pick and pound away

[tame sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-ring-singe-ladies-put-a-ring-on-it-gif-5598751

[modern grail]

was that too much

[slender plume]

I already have 2 392 rings 😢

[hearty horizon]

Did you upgrade your trinket? If so, if you called your trinket by name, you will need to redo the macro

[coarse portal]

so

i am getting the ring from my GV

[copper hare]

lord of the rings

[slender plume]

and actually my 392 ring has a socket so this is 100% worse

[slender plume]

Sigh

[coarse portal]

Ring is best bet for me, i have set gloves, and chest LOL

was hoping for 4 piece

[trail hamlet]

is the world pvp vendor not selling epics right now?

[slender plume]

I only have 1 tier piece and it's helm and I already have 392 conq helm so like my whole set up is a big fat fuck you

Tier helm is dog water

[clear quiver]

whats the best arms spec rn?

[slender plume]

I'm running basically my previous rend build but now with sharpened blades and strength of Arms

[copper hare]

gem is probably better than taking a ring

[mild ibex]

thunderous roar the play now? for arms

[copper hare]

gems are huge rn and ring is low conquest

[slender plume]

I've been using roar, but also bleed build

[flat tide]

Which tier pieces does arms want/

[coarse portal]

I dislike you Mave for making me realize that AFTER I got it

[copper hare]

:/

[coarse portal]

but oh well, catalyst will help me get 4 piece conquest right?

dw Mave, I DISLIKE MYSELF GREAT FOR NOT REEALIZING IT SOONER

[modern grail]

I'm trying this BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIJJJSOgEIJBAAAgARioREJNBNkEQARIRCHApkAAAAAAAAQCSEAEFSA

[slender plume]

capy I thought all but helm but could be wrong

[modern grail]

https://imgur.com/a/mNVyf1v

[brazen rock]

what the fuck

delete this

[slender plume]

What is that

[copper hare]

my balls hurt

ouch

[modern grail]

whats wrong with it

[brazen rock]

everything

[copper hare]

nothing, just keep grinding

[modern grail]

broke 1250 yesterday

[slender plume]

Hell yeah

[long ridge]

heh sonic boom

[digital crater]

cracked

[long ridge]

and no final tier on arms

[slender plume]

what's a sonic boom crit even look like? 20k?

[digital crater]

if you go 12000dpi and spin really fast you can make shockwave omnidirectional

[modern grail]

i hit for 13k one time

[slender plume]

hahaha

[desert root]

is there like a prerequisite for getting tier in vault, i am extremely unlucky it hurts

[slender plume]

Ya know what is worst about that build?

[digital crater]

don't you need to murk raidbosses?

[slender plume]

you took improved slam but not crushing force

[rare ibex]

Fury: Think it's worth trying the cooldown reduction talents in terms of TRoar and Anger Management with the changes?

[desert root]

for the pvp slots bro

[digital crater]

yeah i may be dumb as all fuck

but my assumption was they'd do SL shit of forcing you to pve

so i pugged the raid

[modern grail]

the idea is you win the first round of SS then DPS inspect your build and /afk
Rinse repeat

[digital crater]

idk if thats the condition but ive had tier in every week since

[rare ibex]

I knew he was taking the piss

[slender plume]

For Fury did they make um onslaught viable now?

[desert root]

well idk, i havent touched raiding

[west gorge]

dangit i came here for a build

[slender plume]

I saw buffs to it in patch notes and curious if anyone can build it properly

scroll up a few min you'll find a good build

[digital crater]

check the latest one posted its a banger

huge slams

[desert root]

here #pvp message

[turbid ember]

Stop baiting people to use slam

[slender plume]

lol

[west gorge]

get that meme build out of here]

[digital crater]

wym it crits for like 39k now

its good bro please

brl

[slender plume]

bruh you can get slam 60% dmg increase, 30% higher crit chance and 30% crit dmg increase

All you have to do is waste 4 talent points

[dawn wing]

Dumb question... but are there any viable non-bleed builds? I'm bad at pvp and just zug

[turbid ember]

Try fury then

[desert root]

gotcha bro #pvp message

[rare ibex]

🤡

[digital crater]

main meta builds didnt use bleed on 10.0.2 unless you wanted to

that probably wont change on 10.0.5

[slender plume]

Yeah you don't need bleed build arms

I actually thought it was less common

[digital crater]

its good but not mandatory if you have boomer fingers and dont want the extra mental overhead of rend uptime

question to those of you who run rend

[slender plume]

Hell I only went bleed build because I went from Fury to Arms and had a lot of haste

[turbid ember]

Rend has high prio

[digital crater]

do you make a point to squeeze in a global of rend offtarget against cleave and shit?

just for pressure?

or do you only focus on rend uptime on kill target

[slender plume]

Yeah I will multi dot but if I miss a window for it I don't sweat it

[warm epoch]

wheres the enchant my fellow brothers

[turbid ember]

Rend probably does like 23k damage against a target with those basic talents? Idk if I'd bother putting rend on OT

If you're trying to min-max then sure. I personally couldn't be fucked

[quasi zephyr]

got 10% towards catalyst charge from a 3s win

[modern grail]

can't upgrade drakebreakers rn on A52 lul

[thick reef]

SMF bros? We still ass?

[mild thunder]

yep

[thick reef]

Did the auto-attack buff not mean a damn thing?

[mild thunder]

TG being removed is the only way smf is viable

[thick reef]

Fuck Blizzard

[slender plume]

Guess it's time for Arm

[cursive pike]

what should i go with

[slender plume]

s

[cursive pike]

i got mastery legs last week from vault fml

[barren vale]

well you could take tier legs

[mild thunder]

tier legs if you dont have tier already

[barren vale]

you probably have infurious helm

[mild thunder]

if cloak is crit or haste, and you dont have then take that

[barren vale]

if you don't already have cloak, you could take it

[cursive pike]

hmmm yea ill go with the legs so i can use 2 set this week

[mild thunder]

gigachad

[rare ibex]

Fury players, do you think it's worth trying the cooldown reduction talents in terms of TRoar and Anger Management with the changes?

[barren vale]

you save yourself a catalyst too

[mild thunder]

defs not

RA is way too powerful

[barren vale]

what do we think of this build?

[cursive pike]

man i wish they would up weekly conq from 550 to something like 750

[long ridge]

bro i'm winning games left and right

with thunder roar

[mild thunder]

rend > imp slam

anything > FbV

[thick reef]

TRoar regardless of spec is the fucking goat

[obsidian loom]

post build

thanks

[slender plume]

since when we hatin on fbv

[obsidian loom]

so hows no spear @long ridge

[long ridge]

i'm good w/ it so far

[thick reef]

Kill Hunters through turtle by giving them a sudden case of multi-bleeds

[worthy fern]

Spear > troar

[slender plume]

meh

Roar so good

[long ridge]

idk bro

try it urself

[worthy fern]

I haven’t tried in pvp yet but it doesn’t do that much dam

[rare ibex]

Anyone see anything super wrong with this fury build?

[slender plume]

roar does bunches in pvp

[smoky anchor]

Post your 10.0.5 build

[mild thunder]

already did

[barren vale]

for starters, it is a fury build. Kappa

[mild thunder]

its up there somewhere @smoky anchor

[barren vale]

we are in the Arms race now.

[worthy fern]

@long ridge 5 percent dam

[smoky anchor]

Never mind I found it

Gonna copy you

[mild thunder]

felt pretty fun

[worthy fern]

I think everything but how hard your Ms hits is irrelevant

[smoky anchor]

Bleed build is intriguing with the new buffs

[turbid ember]

But then you have to play bleed

[slender plume]

This is my current build but haven't tested it, just changed a few things with the new update and a lot on the left side is obviously changeable based on enemy comp

[mild thunder]

EP > FbV

[slender plume]

Oh I did forget to change my healing talents at the top actually after the patch

let me resend

[trail hamlet]

this skull splitter rend if pretty nutty

is*

[mild thunder]

sks

is

poop

i hate it

[rare ibex]

Is it actually poop, or just annoying?

[slender plume]

that's the same thing to half of warrior players

[mild thunder]

both

its pretty garbanzo and its aids to play

[smoky anchor]

Literally all I lose is spear which is unreliable at best

[grim geyser]

anybody bugged

and not getting pvp ilvl increase?

[turbid ember]

I guess it depends what you mean by bleed build. I guess I don't consider troar and rend a bleed build. I think of Skullsplitter as a bleed build

Sounds like a user error

[slender plume]

Bleed build is more like rend, bloodletting, bloodborne and troar

[trail hamlet]

with the +6 seconds talent, rend, and the improved skull splitter, doing like 100k damaghe isntantly

[slender plume]

and tw

[trail hamlet]

during smash

[turbid ember]

Seems like a pain to setup along w/ MS

[trail hamlet]

you just pop it after bladestorm

if you ge tlucky and crit everything, doing like 150k

but average is like 100k

[smoky flax]

link a build

[sage raptor]

https://twitter.com/xElectricSheep/status/1617970954126385152?s=20&t=oFTlT266vtpaBqhoxexs1A THEY LIED

Sheep (@xElectricSheep)

PSA to all prot warriors and prot paladins. With the arrival of the patch today, you'll be able to transmog these lances with shields. You're welcome. ;)

Twitter · Jan 24, 2023, 7:41 PM

[trail hamlet]

you bsaically just smash, storm, then after storm rend + skullsplitter

[turbid ember]

What if that lance is why today took forever to get in-game

Assuming it's true

[mild thunder]

fuck sks

imagine not taking EP

EP > anything else

[trail hamlet]

well was jsut testing with the extra +6 talent

see if it's worth it

prolly not

[flat dome]

Ignore pain didn't do shit

[trail hamlet]

tbh

but lowers it from like 100k avg to like 75k

so i dunno

[slender plume]

How many stacks of fatal mark or w.e can go on an enemy?

[mild thunder]

infinite

[turbid ember]

50k damage reduction isn't much, if it gets dampened then it's dog shit

[slender plume]

Worth it more than Strength of Arms?

[tribal nimbus]

any body else having lag issues

[slender plume]

I mean IP is gonna be good in a lot of situations over storm wall

Any benefit to taking Fatality over Strength of Arms in this you think?

[severe basin]

guysd ignore pains too busted it needs to get nerrfed

and be a 3 min cd

[mild thunder]

ypu can take both

you*

[slender plume]

And drop what

[mild thunder]

just drop 1 point in bloodborne

wait no

drop bloodletting

its nerfed by 50% in pvp, kinda ass

[obsidian loom]

am i crazy, or is there no ignore pain?

[brazen rock]

talent

replaced storm wall

iirc

[rugged arrow]

Are you US?

[obsidian loom]

US

[brazen rock]

or rather its in a split node WITH storm wall

[leaden pasture]

was wondering if any one can help and give me a talent code for fury bg and arena my talents got reset and murlok io website al of the talent codes are out of date

[slender plume]

it is split

[rugged arrow]

Ignore pain is so huge tbh

I feel like rage is not really an issue

[obsidian loom]

ohhhhhh

thanks

[slender plume]

Rage is never an issue

[obsidian loom]

is slam ever used?

or do i just unbind this shit

[slender plume]

Not often

[leaden pasture]

any one got a talent code i can copy for fury

[slender plume]

I mean

I can give you my old build idk how good it's gonna be

[leaden pasture]

yes pls

[slender plume]

spear or roar?

[leaden pasture]

roar

[slender plume]

BgEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFEAAAAAAAAAAQICaJAR0EiQS0AhkAIRSAJJJhkkEhEplWSCQSAAAAQQA

I'd say this is a start

Can swap some stuff around

[leaden pasture]

ty @slender plume the code worked

[trail hamlet]

There you go. Can do like 90-100k instant damage at the end of a smash bladestorm or smash+avatar with skull splitter

[slender plume]

Why even take bloodletting

[trail hamlet]

increases the damage by like 20%

[slender plume]

How

[trail hamlet]

extra +6 seconds

and crit

[rugged arrow]

Why are some warriors running no rend?

[sage raptor]

its not. tried on two characters

[rugged arrow]

F.e the build joe fernandes has loaded up rn doesnt have it

Could anyone enlighten?

[slender plume]

huh?

[severe basin]

ignore 50% of damage up to 30.4k

seems kinda mid bros

[slender plume]

mine says 40 out of pvp content

it's also every 11 sec and helps against non melee dmg

[long ridge]

my face when it's based on ur hp

[brazen rock]

its not

its a off-gcd rage dump

it heals us

ignore pain is giga.

[rugged arrow]

S tier button

[severe basin]

kk coz honestly i was getting 1 shot a lot

then i'd play my dk and zug zug wins all day

i find arms fun hopefully this makes it better to play

[slender plume]

Never had a bad time on Arms yet

[mild thunder]

based

[shell plume]

any link to arms talent build?

[turbid ember]

But once dampening kicks in it's dumpy

[slender plume]

and it only got better today

[severe basin]

same for a lot of classes tho

[trail hamlet]

I mean if it wasnt affected by damp, it would be broken

[real shuttle]

But once dampening kicks in it's dumpy
@turbid ember IP is danpened?

[severe basin]

death strike

half of classes defensives are heals

[turbid ember]

No other classes defensive is like ours though

There's nothing to compare it to

Closest is soul link

[severe basin]

hows it close to soul link

we dont have pets

[mild thunder]

im not even sure IP is dampened

@brazen rock ?

[turbid ember]

That's kind of the point

[rare ibex]

I'm not sure it's dampened either.

[slender plume]

I don't think it's dampened

[turbid ember]

It states it's an absorption according to WoWHead

So therefore it would get dampened

[mild thunder]

what would wowhead knowq

they're retords

[severe basin]

idk it might be an absorbtion

that sounds pretty accurate

just test

if it comes up on details as a heal then its an absorb

ill duel someone

[brazen rock]

not sure. probably not actually

[mild thunder]

well i trust varughh

[brazen rock]

you shouldnt

im washed up as fuck

[real shuttle]

Ip goes on heals at least when i tank keys

[barren vale]

what enchant do we take on arms 2H?

[mild thunder]

not as washed up as me ❤️

[brazen rock]

sophic

[slender plume]

sophic devotion

[severe basin]

yeah its an absorb then

is the trophy of strife vendor bugged for anyone else?

[fair tide]

they took it down

was bugged

[severe basin]

oh what the hell

[fair tide]

giving out 479 weapons

[severe basin]

whens it coming back

yeah true

[fair tide]

when they fix that shit

[severe basin]

the pvp upgrader was bugged yesterday

[long ridge]

damn i want 479 weapons

[severe basin]

it nearly upgraded my pvp gear to pvp ilvl

but i didnt have enough honor i was gonna do it

then i came back 20 mins later with honor and it wasnt upgrading my pvp ilvl anymore

it couldve just been the tooltip

but it seemed sussy mcgussy i think it was bugged

[obsidian loom]

are we going warbreaker?

[slender plume]

I haven't been

Has our rage generation changed at all

[mild thunder]

not really

[fair tide]

hit 423ilvl on the war today

w/ 4 set

feels noice

[severe basin]

huge mate

[fair tide]

I've been bullying people

inc forum QQ

[unreal harness]

is fury good again?

[fair tide]

I've been dumping on fury wars tbh

[modern grail]

i wanna do the IP MS macro. will that get me laughed at

[severe basin]

oh man

[fair tide]

you dont want to just spam ip on cd

its a huge rage dump

[sage birch]

So, it looks like I can upgrade my Drakebreaker's Sabatons to Item Level 404 (476 in pvp) for 7 trophys of strife... this feels like a "if I do this Imma be banned" kinda thing.

[severe basin]

i put it on mousehweel down

its where i have feint on my rogue

so easy to just press it last sec when u need it

[modern grail]

I like that ty

rip the dream 1/24/2023 - 1/24/2023

[flat dome]

Getting matched with ragnaros players is aids

[obsidian loom]

yes it is

[severe basin]

focus them

[inner zephyr]

is malicia, the npc that sells the upgrade for the bloody token items working for u guys?

[flat dome]

Can't when on my team

[modern grail]

nope, bugged

[severe basin]

nah someone just said was giving out 479 weps

[inner zephyr]

oof

[barren vale]

aight I moved some things around

[short glacier]

Spear or troar

How we feeling

[quick carbon]

idk im still feeling it out

[clever fern]

why someone would use Thunderous Roar instead of Spear ?

[magic vessel]

did they add the 2100 enchant yet??

[barren vale]

are you asking? That's a build leaning heavily into bleeds, and Thunderous Wounds increase bleeds damage by 15%

[clever fern]

yeah, i was asking, not flaming, ty