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mild thunder
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imagine critting keks
im mud, and i run full haste 🤡

quick carbon
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u win

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kekw

coral axle
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So if it's on you when u pop CDs you will get no crits and do no damage!

quick carbon
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thats why

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u play

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bleedd spec

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into locks boys

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kappa

mild thunder
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and the 30% fbv ticks

coral axle
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Really just make a /yell macro DECURSE ME for your healer

nimble jasper
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curse of tongues still debuffs you with less haste

coral axle
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Though the fbv shit does sound sexy

quick carbon
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why r we acting like

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warlocks will exist

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tmrw

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anyway

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lmao

nimble jasper
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well

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assa rogues still will

quick carbon
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thr gonna q into rpx

nimble jasper
quick carbon
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andd lose

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every time

muted surge
quick carbon
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then uninstall

nimble jasper
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rpx gets farmed

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by dhdk

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tho

muted surge
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Bur you should try and report back

quick carbon
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no it doesnt

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not tmrw

coral axle
nimble jasper
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a real dhdk

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not cdew

quick carbon
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spellwarden dead, rogues getting warbreaker tmrw

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kill dh

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off cd

nimble jasper
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oh yeah the aoe shiv

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is tmrw

quick carbon
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dhdk going to get FEARMED

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by rpx

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tmrw

severe basin
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spellwarden was toxic tho

quick carbon
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every cleave is going to just get slammed

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really hard

nimble jasper
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somehow they buffed sin rogue in pvp

severe basin
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and thats coming from someone who plays a lot of UHDK

nimble jasper
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when trying to buff it for m+

quick carbon
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ik it was toxic

nimble jasper
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and its still the wors

quick carbon
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its good change fuck spell warden

severe basin
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yeah man for sure

quick carbon
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what cleave doesnt just get obliterated

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by rpx

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now

severe basin
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whats comp is rpx

mild thunder
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im not convinced assa rogues are even going to run aoe shiv that often... its behind some pretty mediocre talents, and the bonus damage is only to bleeds

quick carbon
nimble jasper
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garrote dam

mild thunder
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and it means they cant take bone spike

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i dont think its going to be that good at all

nimble jasper
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i mean maybe you lock in dtb

severe basin
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its not

quick carbon
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feral mains are in shambles rn

severe basin
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rogue discords saying it wont be taken much

mild thunder
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i doubt they're dropping dtb for aoe shiv

quick carbon
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even if they dont take it

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rpx still prob going to be best comp

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cuz thr biggest counter is getting nerfed

nimble jasper
muted surge
mild thunder
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aoe shiv really does not give that much

nimble jasper
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yeah you playing dtb

quick carbon
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its just more spread presh

nimble jasper
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just get one more pt in class tree now

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with feint baseline

mild thunder
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yea, the fucking assa doomerism is so cringe, its not getting that much stronger

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meanwhile we've gone from D to SS tier through this season

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stop crying

quick carbon
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wont be ss tier

nimble jasper
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everyone sleeping on sub

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cuz of how overtuned assa is

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xdxd

mild thunder
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same as outlaw tbh

quick carbon
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assassination rogue still going to be better in every warrior comp than warrior will be

nimble jasper
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watching the eu rogues

quick carbon
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unless warrior is

nimble jasper
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just 100-0 people in duel

quick carbon
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absolutely

nimble jasper
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is big memes

quick carbon
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immortal

nimble jasper
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outlaw is gonna be big with tier

quick carbon
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if game pace slowing and ip means warrior just doesnt die then its going to be s tier

mild thunder
severe basin
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yeah idk about outlaw man

quick carbon
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never let outlaw be goodd

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cringe spec

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cringe spec

mild thunder
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same as fdk, i swear that spec is perfectly fine

nimble jasper
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you get real fat ambushes

mild thunder
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but why play it when uhdk is busted

severe basin
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frost dk gets toppled by any other class

nimble jasper
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with 2p

quick carbon
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frost dk just needs something to deal with disarms

severe basin
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thats what its issue is

mild thunder
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fdk is squishy, but it can shit out damage

quick carbon
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thr entire class gets fucked by disarm

severe basin
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is does big damage but its made of glass

nimble jasper
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tho was funny as fuck as soon as I saw GG lock in rps

severe basin
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you have to try and 1 shot the healer as fdk

nimble jasper
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I knew they were gonna 100-0 druid

severe basin
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or you lose to an arms warrior

nimble jasper
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as soon as he trinkets

quick carbon
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fdk loses to anything with a disarm

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rlly rlly hard

nimble jasper
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hemotoxin psyfiend whirlpool

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is fking vile

quick carbon
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bro

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lmfao

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whirlpool psyfiend spear sharpen kekw

mild thunder
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spear?

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i think you misspelled TRoar

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im forgetting spear exists tomorrow

quick carbon
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spear still better

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tmrw

nimble jasper
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was funny

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I knew flop was gonna die

quick carbon
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until armor value gets higher later in expansion

mild thunder
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into some stuff probably, but TRoar will definitely see a lot of play

nimble jasper
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through tranq

quick carbon
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isnt his arm broken

mild thunder
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when half the top specs just walk out of spear, it doesnt offer much

quick carbon
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from jerking off too hard

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spear still just does retardo damage

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if u spec into big dam

mild thunder
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so does TRoar

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except more

quick carbon
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whatever does

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more damage

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will be the one played

mild thunder
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TRoar will do more damage

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and is easier to cleave

quick carbon
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idk spears critting for 110k

mild thunder
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but spear will still be played into anything that cant get out of it probably

quick carbon
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and can aoe

nimble jasper
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god i love seeing

mild thunder
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spear doesnt aoe as much, and TRoar can tick for ~200k total

nimble jasper
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2.4 shuffle dh player

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stuck 1.6

mild thunder
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and can be used more often with uproar

nimble jasper
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on any other class

quick carbon
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why woulddd u ever

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play

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uproar

mild thunder
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idk, ask mud

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he's the retard that said he's gonna take it

quick carbon
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i swear jusst using it with avatar

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is better

mild thunder
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thats what i said

quick carbon
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maybe im wrong tho

mild thunder
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1-2 more uses in a match vs each use dealing 20% more damage

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seems a no brainer to me

nimble jasper
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is lock nerfed tmrw

mild thunder
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buffed :))

nimble jasper
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._.

quick carbon
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dont worry the m ore rpxs that q

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means less locks

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youll see

nimble jasper
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dude last time i queued rpx

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lock was free win

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it was so great

quick carbon
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lock gets farmed

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by it

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rlly hard

nimble jasper
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also cuz last time

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half the fotm retard locks dont know

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you cant wall silenced

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and die opener

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bomb so cant gate

severe basin
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I hate warlocks

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just their pets

nimble jasper
severe basin
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fills up my screen and i cant see shit or the person im trying to attack

nimble jasper
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if it wasnt cosmic ssn rmp

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dhdk has always been terrible for rpx though yeah

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esp in seasons with dhdk played with rsham

quick carbon
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i miss

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sl s1 week 1

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sub rogue

nimble jasper
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kekek

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why bother properly testing for bugs

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when you can be dipshits and oneshot on beta with skulkers grim codex macro

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fucking morons doing that shit

quick carbon
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lost 200 cr in 3 games of shuffle u hate to see it

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rlly rlly tuff nite

mild thunder
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we love shuffle critcake

quick carbon
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it was

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mugambala

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3 maps in a row

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with warlocks in every lobby

severe basin
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what builds everyone using in 2s

mild thunder
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whats the point of asking for a build when we're getting a reworked talent tree in 12 hours?

kindred viper
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finally

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noooooooo

severe basin
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pretty simple to me

muted surge
merry valley
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So Fury getting Bladestorm?

jovial meteor
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Just curious, what's everyone's favourite duel location?

mild thunder
tranquil raven
merry valley
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Scrolling up theres the arms BS buff 7x 63% AP lasts 6 seconds

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This one is 5x 63 + 50% 4 second duration

mild thunder
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possibly just an unintended side-effect of some other tuning, who knows

merry valley
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Well see I gess

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Would be glad to go to the right side of the tree in pvp and leave the 1 button does it all playstyle

mild thunder
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you mean do a raginb low 1 button playstyle instead of a bt 1 button playstyle

merry valley
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No, a playstyle where if i want to do damage i press a key thats supposed to do damage, if i want to heal i press a key to heal and if the target gets in execute range i press a key that is supposed to hit hard in that situation

mild thunder
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is bt not supposed to do damage now? also, im pretty sure execute is still lower priority than crushing blow

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the only better thing about an rb build is that you get to run onslaught, which is vaguely fun

merry valley
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Its lower prolly yes but since its 20% nerfed in pvp

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Execute prolly outdamages it now

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With the comung buffs

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Coming*

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I prolly wouldnt dispise the bt focused build if it didnt outdamages everything

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Slam had a reason to be used

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And execute beeing important

mild thunder
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fury 💤

merry valley
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Might be me just beeing a fool but I feel Fury just came great of Shadowlands and got changed for no reason

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Crushing Blow charge is gone and ms nerfed

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Think the spec would thrive the way it was with necro banner

mild thunder
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fury? great in SL? it was the exact same boring rotation as it is now lol

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spam 3 charges of rb and hope that they reset because all your other buttons suck

merry valley
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At least when we pressed the keys that deal damage, they actualy dealt damage

mild thunder
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yea, the spec was OP

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that doesnt mean it was fun or well-designed

merry valley
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Spec wasnt op because of the damage, uptime from CB and 40% ms was the problem

mild thunder
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the damage was also definitely overtuned

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you would oneshot with warbringer>rampage

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banner was just a boring ability too ngl

merry valley
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Sure warbringer was dumb

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Either delt negative dmg or would solo people

mild thunder
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the issue wasnt warbringer, it was all the stupid modifiers fury stacked

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avatar + reck + banner + conduit + enrage

merry valley
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Why u think Banner was boring?

mild thunder
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because it was just another major CD

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didnt add any fun utility, anything to the rotation or a fun ability

merry valley
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I'd rather take that than what we have now

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Feel spear fits so much more to arms playstyle

mild thunder
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id rather they rework fury entirely

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the spec is just shit, needs to be gutted and rebuilt

merry valley
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What u think they should do

mild thunder
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ive said it heaps

delete rampage
turn rb into a lower rage spender with wild strike returned
potentially add rend

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add a regular 25% ms to wild strike

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literally wod fury with onslaught and rend, was the best iteration of the spec

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simple changes, but there would immediately be so much more to do in the spec... exe procs would always be relevant because it's your biggest generator, wild strike would have to be used regularly for ms, rb would be your biggest spender and bt would be used almost on-CD outside of burst

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and onslaught would trigger enrage so you can rb

merry valley
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That is pretty much annihilator, if rampage applied 25ms, bt did less damage to not be above everything else and instead of slam we had onslaught

mild thunder
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thats... nothing like annihilator lol

merry valley
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And not reckless abandon stuff

mild thunder
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its like wod fury, which is what i said

merry valley
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Didnt play before Legion so most i know about fury before that was from videos not much

mild thunder
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the ultimate problem with fury is that it's not a rage spec... it has rage, but the rage operates like combo points, not how rage traditionally does. there's no "rage management" or thought about what to do with your rage. you use 1-2 abilities to build it as fast as possible, and then spend it on the same 1 ability no matter the situation. your thought process only goes into the most efficient way to build, not the most effective way to spend, which is a massive problem imo. rage-management is supposed to be about efficient spending, not maximised building

pure hornet
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Smoking impatiently.. can you all feel the ignore pain free cr?

mild thunder
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and the only real way to fix that is to delete rampage, because rampage dominates the "spending" part of your rotation

agile aspen
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combo points for 0.5 point eviscerate lul

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ramps so bad

mild thunder
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that's why ww is unironically the best-designed melee spec in the game... it's a combo point spec that has to weave its building and spending together and efficiently, not just a linear rotation of build > spend

lethal kestrel
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Guts what arms bulld u play atm?

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I tried without spearmaster felt weird

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Is that the best still? Any new cool idwa

hollow ore
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Oh right you NA lads already have right to happiness 😔

lethal kestrel
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What

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Im eu

hollow ore
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Oh then ye only spear

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Until tomorrow

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Spear unhinged is the way

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(Unless you run into dk/bm/demolock)

lethal kestrel
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So the build listed here

hollow ore
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Dunno whats pinned but most likely yes

lethal kestrel
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Spear blademastwrs torment

hollow ore
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Ye that

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Unless you run into pet classes

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Then you switch to ms crit build

lethal kestrel
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What is that

hollow ore
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Basically just pick recklesness on avatar instead of BS, remove unhinged an put it on the right talent line

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Keep spear ofc

lethal kestrel
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And play warbringer?

hollow ore
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Always play warbringer

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Its the most pog ability in the gaem

lethal kestrel
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Oh

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Uh

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do you take piercing verdict also

hollow ore
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Piercing verdict?

lethal kestrel
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spear instant dmg increase and rage regent

pure hornet
hollow ore
hollow ore
lethal kestrel
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so this build but when i face other i swap unhinged to the right

hollow ore
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Ye you pick the execute talent on the right (not juggernaut)

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And you change the improved avatar

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To the recklessness one

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You should probably pick rend over fueled by violence

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Before galachad finds your address

lethal kestrel
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Ok wait i send newpic

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so instead of sharepened blade i go executioners precision

hollow ore
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Nah you keep sharpened blade, remove unhinged and pick executioner precision

lethal kestrel
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oh

hollow ore
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Unhinged is useless against pet classes cuz there're chances your mortal strikes will be soaked by pets

lethal kestrel
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if in aoe?

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ah

hollow ore
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Which is POOPOO

lethal kestrel
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so if no pet class i can go this build

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but if pet class i swap around

hollow ore
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Yes its the best against no pet class according to the most popular opinion

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Yes

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U got it right

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Id also swap the bitter immunity for the 5% movement speed increase in main tree cuz it hardly ever do anything for you unless youre up against feral/assa

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But at this point its however youre comfortable with

lethal kestrel
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well bitter immunity saves me often at my rating around 2k

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do i still go warbreaker even if against pet calss

hollow ore
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I just play improved CS

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The increased uptime allow you to delay cds even if you get cc'd right after CS

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Considering how long it lasts

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  • SS allows you to cleave it
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So its rather pick warbreaker only against pet classes imo

mild thunder
lethal kestrel
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this vs pet?

hollow ore
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No, tf

mild thunder
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hurricane is horrible

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take sharpened blades

hollow ore
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Remove hurricane pick sharpened blades

lethal kestrel
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oh ok

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lmfao sorry but i saw joe stream

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and he swapned unhiged to it

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so i thought its good

hollow ore
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Never actually tried it fot myself, i just know it removes your ability to cancel bs into exec

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Which is inting

lethal kestrel
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thats true tho

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but the build is good now when i swapped?

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to use vs aoe

lethal kestrel
mild thunder
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yep

lethal kestrel
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ty! im so exited and thanks alot for help

mild thunder
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+3 seconds and 30% damage on colsmash is huge, and there's no reason you cant just ss cleave it anyway

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also, hurricane is bad because its nerfed by 50% in pvp, and yea makes bstorm uncancellable

lethal kestrel
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Yeah i see ty alot!!

quick carbon
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also warbreaker makes it easier to swap

lethal kestrel
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Confuzz

quick carbon
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if ur just trying to single target then take big colossus smash

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if ur cleaving just take warbreaker

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if ur playing tsg or something and can get a triple spear

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Warbreaker is better

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with unhinged

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if ur just trying to kill 1 person take big colossus smash

lethal kestrel
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well i only play solo shuffle keks got no1 to play with aha

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its hard to learn consistently there since if im with 2 wars we dr so hard

severe basin
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its actually completely insane

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how much easier

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it is to win on my unholy DK

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im not even sure if ignore pain will make arms warrior much better

steep inlet
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It’s not just IP

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It’s the ups with it

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There is like 10+ ups

shut barn
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which item item should i craft first

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feet?

thick reef
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its kinda tacky what u do but someone showed me, u spin for like 5 spec get to 5 stacks of the 5% strength shit and then u pop off in those 5 sec of the buff and u can hit like 200k, like i said i think it only works at low cr

thick reef
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i didnt even know u could run it till now, i always pref unhigned into non pet things

dapper cypress
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is there a possibility to kill an ele sham?????
losing every match against them

thick reef
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im ngl im sure there is, i have alot of trouble against them as well

inner sigil
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so i heared ret is boutta get hella nerfed

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ret pally

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Retribution
Final Reckoning damage reduced by 20% in PvP Combat.
Radiant Decree damage reduced by 33% in PvP combat.
Paladin Retribution Class Set 2-piece now increases the damage of Judgment, Blade of Justice, and Wake of Ashes by 10% in PvP Combat (was 15%).
Crusader Strike now deals 80% increased damage in PvP combat (was 30%).
Healing Hands now 70% effective in PvP combat (was 50%).
Templar’s Verdict damage increased by 10% in PvP combat.
Final Verdict damage increased by 10% in PvP combat.
Exorcism damage increased by 80% in PvP combat.
Lawbringer (PvP talent) now deals up to 8% of the enemy’s maximum health (was 10%).

dapper cypress
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why should you nerf a glass cannon

inner sigil
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fr

thick reef
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yea idk

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it looks like

dapper cypress
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they didnt buffed any deffensives

thick reef
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they wantt ret to be decent sust dam and healing but not as much burst

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idk if its gonna help or not

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ngl

inner sigil
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arms is getting stacked on january 31st

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and today

thick reef
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oh ye

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ip and the

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3 bottom talents

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actully going to be insane

inner sigil
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Arms
Thunder Clap damage increased by 30%.
Cleave damage increased by 5%
Whirlwind damage increased by 10%.
Bladestorm damage increased by 5%.
Rend initial damage only (not periodic) increased by 15%.

thick reef
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also if u dont have tier like me giant bonus

inner sigil
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then next patch

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10.05

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ignore pain n shit

thick reef
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wait

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i thought ip was today

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?

inner sigil
thick reef
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yea i thought we were suppsoed to get it this tuesday haha, not 100% sure tho

inner sigil
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its either today or next tuesday

thick reef
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yeah

inner sigil
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ret needs to keep their damage

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for final reckoning

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and WOA

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theyre legit a glass cannon

thick reef
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yea it makes up for their squishiness

inner sigil
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like i really wanted a ret till i saw that

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bc theres a rumor goin about on jan 31st level 70 boost

hot solstice
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I just wanna now this ret defenders exp tbh

inner sigil
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like if ur nerfing ret damage awtleast give them better defensives

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this is bull

hot solstice
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Like it was the time rets weren’t squishy

inner sigil
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fr

hot solstice
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They nerf absurd 200k aoe hits

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We can talk this way about enha if u want…even more squishier with nerfed ele blast

thick reef
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true

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agree with both of u very strongly

dapper cypress
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ele blast fucked me with 177k
tbh bubble is a shit deff, you can run away and give yourself 3 heals and if you're lucky you have 50% healed

inner sigil
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i didnt read this part

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Retribution
Final Reckoning damage reduced by 20% in PvP Combat.
Radiant Decree damage reduced by 33% in PvP combat.
Paladin Retribution Class Set 2-piece now increases the damage of Judgment, Blade of Justice, and Wake of Ashes by 10% in PvP Combat (was 15%).
Crusader Strike now deals 80% increased damage in PvP combat (was 30%).
Healing Hands now 70% effective in PvP combat (was 50%).
Templar’s Verdict damage increased by 10% in PvP combat.
Final Verdict damage increased by 10% in PvP combat.
Exorcism damage increased by 80% in PvP combat.
Lawbringer (PvP talent) now deals up to 8% of the enemy’s maximum health (was 10%).
Developers’ notes: Aura of Reckoning has been much more powerful than intended, so we are making targeted adjustments to slow down its availability for all Paladins and its healing/damage contribution for Holy Paladins. We are increasing some of Holy’s other healing spells with the goal of a more balanced healing breakdown for this class. Additionally, Paladins have been squishier than we would like, so we are increasing Divine Protection’s defensive capabilities to help in this area. Retribution Paladins have high burst potential without counterplay, so we are adjusting their burst capability downward while bringing up some of their sustain damage, to have a healthier playstyle. Lawbringer has represented a higher-than-expected damage contribution due to Judgment based procs within the Talent Tree, so we are reducing its value slightly.

thick reef
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dispelling it

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its fun to intervene it tho

inner sigil
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k i still might get a pally

dapper cypress
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played my whole life ret, switched for sl to SP and rogue and now stuck to warry. as planned was to grind only m+
my 3v3 comp currently is ret/arms/rdruid
hopefully this will still work

inner sigil
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exactly

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ive mained ret since i started the game in TBC. when this game was still young n shit

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i stopped in SL

hot solstice
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Is it really war discord?

dapper cypress
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is a pvp chanel

inner sigil
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1 sec my son is waking up. gotta get him ready for school

dapper cypress
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still want nerfs to wl, they cant be this tanky...
and eles

thick reef
dapper cypress
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currently playing 2on2 at work xD

pearl prism
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Can we make tier pieces today?

topaz tulip
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has anyone else noticed that sometimes someone, typically a healer, gets a win/rank even though they were on the losing side? Is it supposed to be like that?

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Gotta remember to take screenshots next time but I just had a druid in my game who won 4/5 matches, and myself and one other person won 3. The two of us were on the same team against the druid and won, but when round 6 ended, he was somehow given 5 wins, instead of a 3 way tie with me and the other guy

muted surge
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Might just be an ui bug

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The display is kinda bad

severe basin
topaz tulip
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Which makes sense if it's someone lower ranked, but typically they're already one of the highest in the room

elfin surge
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i love crusaders stream quality

steel trout
placid marlin
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legendary stream

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Pixel rate blessed by the light

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has the fury buff any relevancy?

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or are we still in gigadogwater territory

wheat jay
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fury isn't even that bad now

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lol

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and with buffs its gonna be strong again

summer tiger
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isn't arms gonna be fucking insane anyways, I don't really see a reason to play fury anymore

wheat jay
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everyone just swapped to arms cuz its better

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its same as warlocks, even if all 3 are s tier, people will gravitate towards the stronger one

summer tiger
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yeah but like post this patch it's gonna be even better, looks like we can take 3 capstones

wheat jay
#

fury is not dogwater territory, and it never was in this expansion

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its just that arms got so many buffs its now better

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xD

summer tiger
#

what do you think about fatality ? I think being able to take it without losing something big is gonna be insane

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it's like a 30% touch of death

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literally

wheat jay
#

perhaps

summer tiger
#

I have a bad feeling we're gonna eat giga nerfs lmao we'll see, cause honestly arms damage feels absolutely fine, more than fine even

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and with this patch we'll end up doing even more

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and we'll have the 30% touch of death

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and with the meta shifting towards longer games, we'll have time to stack it

wheat jay
#

And 100% more dmg to thunderous roar

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Against melee classes its gonna blast

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Dk especially

high kindle
#

I need to test it, but I feel like TRoar will replace Spear in most situations

#

a lot of specs can already 100% deny spear

severe basin
#

spear feels shit

high kindle
#

TRoar bleed is also affected by all the bleed talents, which i think gonna be huge

severe basin
#

if theres a different build tomorrow ill play it

#

spear feels so fkn bad to use

wheat jay
#

And it isn't reduced by armor

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Against casters or squishy melee that can't escape it

#

Spear will still be better

high kindle
#

depends on what is in the meta

#

can evokers rescue people from the spear?

wise quest
#

no

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they can rescue themselves from spear if someone is nearby

inner sigil
inner sigil
pallid ibex
#

Quick question, since almost a week the daily pvp quest don’t give any world pvp item whereas since launch of DF every other day would have a wpvp item as a reward. Is there any reason or is it just random that there isn’t any wpvp items as a reward for those quest for a week now ?

inner sigil
#

with fury its buns

severe basin
#

it sucks

worthy fern
#

I love spear

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Jsut don’t miss

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Barely anyone can get out now days

inner sigil
#

abom limb

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can crit 100k on the dot

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usually does

shut barn
#

which talent is viable if im not playing unhinged?

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whenever i play vs demo and bmhunter

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i feel like unhinged is shit

severe basin
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against them

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pets just soak it

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use the execute talent on the right side of tree or something

craggy quest
#

How many haste do you have ? I feel like there is 2 teams, one full crit/versa, the second haste/versa with 18% haste nearly

hollow ore
#

crit was the way until new patch

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Mud said haste is probably better once .5 hits

shut barn
#

i prefer 15 % haste at least

severe basin
hollow ore
#

cuz we won't playu % crit damage on spear

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since we'll probably run TR

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instead

severe basin
#

nice

craggy quest
#

Oh greaaaat love that

#

Okay my love, ty

dapper cypress
#

is the reset allready up in NA?

grand scaffold
#

40 min

severe basin
#

then its fin

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and we can login

worthy fern
#

We still have other crit multipliers

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Spear is 6 seconds every 1:30

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We don’t play crit for that 6 sec window

grand scaffold
#

bro

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wtf am i going to do

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no wow till tomorrow

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dont have any other games downloade

sage raptor
#

Roblox

craggy quest
spice moth
#

play minesweeper

dapper cypress
#

what should i build first helm or boots for sparks?

short glacier
#

Boots

open glacier
#

I'd say helm, more stats and decent dmg, 5% helps but if ure not geared or high rating , helm with higher dmg and stats help more

tribal nimbus
#

No lariat?

rich meteor
#

lariat for pvp is good?

tribal nimbus
#

I was asking haha

#

I thought it was

rich meteor
#

its now has 418 max IL

inner sigil
#

10.05 is out

#

early

copper hare
dapper cypress
#

ty!

open glacier
#

How much does average IP absorb for arms?

severe basin
inner sigil
queen peak
#

Can't wait to see tweets/posts/videos about how broken arms is or how IP didn't help arms enough

#

It'll get me through my workday

coral axle
#

"I used IP but I still lost??? spec is trash"

turbid ember
#

That's gonna be me after work

bleak quarry
#

whats a good fury open world pvp build?

elfin surge
warm portal
bleak quarry
#

Thanks

zenith marlin
#

Was thinkin y tf chicken breast as laballed has 23g of protein whereas USDA reportsd 31g of protein per 100g

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I thought they PLUMPT the chicken tf up to increase its weight

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But they also didnt report increased sodium or potassium and they must have plumpt lotta water which would be illegal under labelling laws

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Turns out idiots report chicken breast calories if eaten RAW o

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which is in line with raw USDA protein amounst..

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Cooking it increases protein availability to 31g

muted surge
#

So cooking it loses 10g protein?

zenith marlin
#

No the opposite

muted surge
#

Oh nvm

zenith marlin
#

I am just too autism about grocery stores injecting water or saline solution in meats just to increase its weight

tribal wedge
#

How could it be possible ? Protein isnt created by chalor ?

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Nvm

zenith marlin
#

Its cuz its availability to human consumption

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Raw chicken is harder to digest or smth for us

muted surge
#

At least in the more modern countries

zenith marlin
#

esp with all these labelling laws etc right

muted surge
#

But on a farmers market on the other hand …

zenith marlin
#

lool true

turbid ember
#

Can't be bothered with that stuff, it can say whatever it wants on the package, doesn't mean your body will even get that effective value via absorption. Can't think of the technical term.

full quiver
#

Finally! I knew my teammates were holding me back! How long until my gladiator mount gets mailed?? @elfin surge

mystic barn
#

lot of the raw weight is water

muted surge
#

thats true

full quiver
#

@stuck hazel 🐀

mystic barn
#

God here we go scooberz following me to every discord

#

can’t escape

turbid ember
# dusk cargo Bioavailability?

I think that's right. Nutrition is important, but trying to get a deep understanding of it as an individual seems like a waste of time. Best you can do is "this seems like it works for me" and would be very unscientific.

full quiver
#

HELLO

#

I POSTED BEFORE U ?? @mystic barn

mystic barn
#

Liar

#

I was talking about chicken

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And u posted after

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and now I’m going back to the lifting cord

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See u there

pure hornet
#

Guyz does taureen still has reach hit differemcs

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Difference*?

elfin surge
#

Thoughts?

turbid ember
#

Bad

elfin surge
#

: (

gentle horizon
turbid ember
#

God dammit I don't wanna scrape together some key bindings for skullsplitter

elfin surge
gentle horizon
turbid ember
#

I thought you were the one who called him illiterate

elfin surge
#

skyhold classic

sage raptor
#

Lmao

#

Mud guess what

gentle horizon
#

you said out of pocket stuff to me too, was tryna be chill about it

#

sorry to hear ur still hurt :/

elfin surge
gentle horizon
sage raptor
#

I forgot

queen peak
#

I feel like the bleed build is going to be fun. I'm not the biggest spear fan though so that's just me

gentle horizon
full quiver
pure hornet
#

Guyz is taureen hitbox still larger? Or did they patch’ed it?

muted surge
#

is NA up already?

dusk cargo
#

no go to work

muted surge
#

just got home :<

mild thunder
# elfin surge

It’s actually only worth putting one point in sks 🤓

mystic barn
#

wrong

mild thunder
#

I would’ve hoped the nerd face confirmed I was being sarcastic

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But ok

#

“Wrong 🤓”

hard hound
#

@elfin surge brother if I play with a ret I can’t take roar over spear no ? What are your thoughts about that please ?

wheat jay
#

Love how you guys think Mud thinks things over

#

Man sees higher ap and he plays it

gloomy hamlet
#

didn't know Mud was in here

#

same guy as the Mud on twitch? really like his streams

full quiver
gloomy hamlet
#

also, I'm thinking of trying fury war in pvp. I like the list of strengths on wowhead and the list of weaknesses I'm ok with. what are ur thoughts

#

stear clear or give it a bash?

coral axle
#

go for it, I think its gonna be legit decent after the patch

gentle horizon
pure hornet
gloomy hamlet
#

legend

elfin surge
#

There is absolutely nothing a prot paladin can do in it’s current state that is worth complaining about. It’s time to leave behind whatever negative feelings Slands prot gave you. Infact, by Slands season 2 Prot was already gutted so there’s no reason to have such animosity towards players who choose to play their preferred spec instead of rerolling FOTM. I have the utmost respect for current high ranking prot players because they are making something work that most meta spec players aren’t capable of. Those kind of players will always reroll to the next FOTM because they have no sense of integrity.

Prot Paladin is effectively a healer role, unable to queue with another healer (which at that point becomes toxic, double healers are not fun to play against in any version of the game).

Before people tell me to just reroll or respec holy - there is no class or spec that features the same playstyle/class fantasy as prot paladin.

Before people say prot has no place in arena - there is nothing inherently wrong or OP about the spec, it’s an offensive healer much like Disc priests/shamans are. We trade an offensive dispel for a silence, and our damage is much weaker than any healer spec right now except maybe Prevoker/Hpriest. Fistweave MW/Melee Wings Hpal/Rsham has much higher DPS output.

In terms of CDs we offer 2 immunities - both of which with ample opportunity for counterplay (CC the guardian/Dispel the BOP). Compare that with Emerald Communion or tranquility or hpriest angel form/fly into the sky. WEAK

In fact, arguably after today’s patch it is the WEAKEST healer out of all available healer roles.

Prot Pal’s WOG output needs to be buffed to where it’s competitive and not a waste of a GCD. If not WOG then buff flash of light for Prot so people can stop complaining about Prot not casting their heals (Do Rshams or Prevokers cast??? Right.) Then Prot pal should be re-allowed back into queuing against other healer roles.

gentle horizon
pure hornet
wispy cedar
mystic barn
wispy cedar
#

THATS AN Aspen TREE

mystic barn
gentle horizon
wispy cedar
# mystic barn You do you guy. But I cant be bothered to respond to you anymore, you aren’t loo...

There is absolutely nothing a prot paladin can do in it’s current state that is worth complaining about. It’s time to leave behind whatever negative feelings Slands prot gave you. Infact, by Slands season 2 Prot was already gutted so there’s no reason to have such animosity towards players who choose to play their preferred spec instead of rerolling FOTM. I have the utmost respect for current high ranking prot players because they are making something work that most meta spec players aren’t capable of. Those kind of players will always reroll to the next FOTM because they have no sense of integrity.

Prot Paladin is effectively a healer role, unable to queue with another healer (which at that point becomes toxic, double healers are not fun to play against in any version of the game).

Before people tell me to just reroll or respec holy - there is no class or spec that features the same playstyle/class fantasy as prot paladin.

Before people say prot has no place in arena - there is nothing inherently wrong or OP about the spec, it’s an offensive healer much like Disc priests/shamans are. We trade an offensive dispel for a silence, and our damage is much weaker than any healer spec right now except maybe Prevoker/Hpriest. Fistweave MW/Melee Wings Hpal/Rsham has much higher DPS output.

In terms of CDs we offer 2 immunities - both of which with ample opportunity for counterplay (CC the guardian/Dispel the BOP). Compare that with Emerald Communion or tranquility or hpriest angel form/fly into the sky. WEAK

In fact, arguably after today’s patch it is the WEAKEST healer out of all available healer roles.

Prot Pal’s WOG output needs to be buffed to where it’s competitive and not a waste of a GCD. If not WOG then buff flash of light for Prot so people can stop complaining about Prot not casting their heals (Do Rshams or Prevokers cast??? Right.) Then Prot pal should be re-allowed back into queuing against other healer roles.

gloomy hamlet
#

I'm so confused rn

#

are people copy pasta things normally here?

mystic barn
full quiver
#

just a warrior thing

elfin surge
#

if you agree with what someone posts you generally show support by copy pasting it

coral axle
#

if you agree with what someone posts you generally show support by copy pasting it

spice moth
#

not all hills have grass

elfin surge
#

VAPO VAPO

wispy cedar
#

if you agree with what someone posts you generally show support by copy pasting it

placid marlin
#

if you agree with someone who plays Prot pally posts you generally show support by dying on that hill pasting it

gentle horizon
#

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of human companionship, Flareon is objectively the most huggable Pokemon? While their maximum temperature is likely too much for most, they are capable of controlling it, so they can set themselves to the perfect temperature for you. Along with that, they have a lot of fluff, making them undeniably incredibly soft to touch. But that's not all, they have a very respectable special defense stat of 110, which means that they are likely very calm and resistant to emotional damage. Because of this, if you have a bad day, you can vent to it while hugging it, and it won't mind. It can make itself even more endearing with moves like Charm and Baby Doll Eyes, ensuring that you never have a prolonged bout of depression ever again.

warm epoch
elfin surge
warm epoch
#

You mean Samuka boi

turbid ember
#

The fuck happened here

inner sigil
#

is NA up

gentle horizon
#

what no-wow does to a mf

warm epoch
#

a lot of suramar crackhead around here

upbeat ice
#

I swear sks feels so bad to play tho I just wanna spam ms

undone pumice
#

Are Hpaladin Paladins still aqua cuckoo, turn your frootloops to chocolate yoohoo?

Holy paladadins were not, at the beginning of the expansion. Now people are saying they are. And apparently they are, in awc. Rotribotrudin will inevitably be nerfed with how people cry about it but Paladins my main, will Hpally Paladins be good? I am high off of compressed air.

inner sigil
#

paladadins

coral axle
undone pumice
#

rotribotrudin

long ridge
#

The man had a compressed air vision that rotribotrudin would be nerfed and he was spot on

turbid ember
#

Robitussidin

shy aurora
#

Is fury good again now?

smoky anchor
#

Expect 4k rating in solo shuffle in the coming weeks.

upbeat ice
#

If fury dumps on people like the beginning of s1 then it’ll be good

turbid ember
#

Alright if that's what most people get then I'll finally be able to get 2k

upbeat ice
#

If not then ppl will ignore u and you’ll lose every game

thorn herald
#

@elfin surge transmog is terrible paladin looking dork

elfin surge
#

its the most iconic and heroic mog ever worn by any player

thorn herald
#

go back to northrend the argent crusade called

#

stand around and play slap ass with champions seals

elfin surge
#

its no longer called the redemption set they just call it the mud mog

thorn herald
#

yeah because it belongs with MUDs, forgotten and in the 90s

elfin surge
hot solstice
#

Do all ww play serenity nowadays?

hot solstice
indigo gulch
#

hi there, noob pvper here. my friends and i are warrior, priest and a hunter. what specs do you think would be best for 3s?

queen peak
#

dump the hunter and priest

#

go arms, arms, fury

#

fury is obviously the healer

#

them furious blows and all

kindred viper
#

raging blow

coral axle
kindred viper
#

furiously screams at teammates to stop them losing health

queen peak
#

i mean yeah, commanding shout

coral axle
#

arms will be better but both specs should be fine

#

disc OP

queen peak
#

if shamans can throw water and heal people, why can't the wind from a warrior's breath do the same?

indigo gulch
coral axle
#

seems fine idk, ur priest can try disc after the buffs today

#

if you are new to pvp 1400 in 3s is actually decent right now, the mode is hella deflated

indigo gulch
#

we're getting cleaved down a lot by dh/uh dk so im not sure if double melee is a good idea?

coral axle
#

it'll be a bit better when you have ignore pain, then ur surv hunter just needs to play better and avoid getting cleaved for free if possible

#

they have their ranged stance thingy

#

or they can just go BM for ez mode

thorn herald
#

Make my paladin mog look like a warrior

indigo gulch
#

do you know what kind of cc chains we should be trying to do? i dont really know the dr's for things haha

coral axle
#

other than storm bolt and intim I don't think any of ur other CCs share DR

brazen rock
smoky anchor
hot solstice
brazen rock
#

bolt > trap > fear

hot solstice
#

Or hunter can harpoon into a trap while u stun dps

brazen rock
#

force big CDs on DH or Dk

#

repeat

#

Or harpoon > trap > fear would be more ideal, save bolt for dps.

indigo gulch
#

thank you all ❤️

#

save intim shout for healer too or to peel?

uneven turret
#

is ignore pain affected by dampen

brazen rock
smoky anchor
#

every 30s is a fat ranged stun from stormbolt

#

almost as good as a kidney shot

steel trout
#

Duelist: Dragonflight Season 1 achievement now grants the Primal Storm illusion.

plush owl
#

Any visual of the illusion yet?

steel trout
#

not in the patch notes atleast only that

warm portal
#

Tabard when

gaunt scaffold
#

Arms warrior god tier now?

steel trout
#

should come this patch too

warm portal
#

Its not in the notes tho

elfin surge
steel trout
#

Yea i tried finding it too, would be weird they add illusion now but not tabard

warm portal
#

I know what it looks like

#

I want to know when I can wear it lol

steel trout
#

I thought i read something about it coming 10.0.5 but im prob tripping

warm portal
#

Its one of the coolest ones yet. That's an instant mog to every character

copper hare
#

Hope the 2.1 Illusion aint available through shuffle

elfin surge
#

the tabard is garbage

steel trout
#

i hate it

dark sparrow
#

Idk that neck thing looks dumb af

warm portal
#

I think its sick lol

steel trout
elfin surge
#

cruel was the last good tabard

warm portal
elfin surge
steel trout
#

SURELY its better than the s4 one right

warm portal
#

SL illusions were pretty mid in general

steel trout
#

ye, the season 4 one was not even visible

warm portal
#

Can't believe they even shipped that one

placid marlin
#

For some reason all ilusions since SL have been gigabugged on how they apply to certain weapons

mild thunder
sly walrus
rancid granite
#

🕐 🕙 🕞 🕘 🕡 🕢 🕧 🕜

muted surge
#

yoooo pvp illusion ratJAMMIN

placid marlin
#

Do ss queues get better at higher elos critcake

proper sequoia
#

Way worse

placid marlin
#

20min queues make me wanna dragon roar myself

#

Uh oh

sharp meteor
gentle horizon
#

how tf have they not addressed healer que solo issues in 10.5

placid marlin
#

How would they do it

#

3v3 dps seems gigacringe

gentle horizon
#

nah incentivise healers

placid marlin
#

Aye

gentle horizon
#

1mil gold per que ez

placid marlin
#

Perfect

mild thunder
#

3v3 dps as arms against affli, dh, ret would be so fun okayge

placid marlin
#

In your team, a sub rogue that watches too much pikaboo and another arms warrior

urban skiff
#

last hour of playing old (bad) arms before tomorrow patch

wooden canyon
#

how are we ARMS looking in 10.0.5?

mild thunder
#

omega triple S tier

spice hornet
raven hound
#

@spice hornet It's too late, im already hyped

queen peak
#

Nah Arms is going to be C-Tier. Fury S-Tier zugzug

spice hornet
queen peak
#

Arms only has one weapon. Fury has 2. EZ

spice hornet
#

Won’t even be near shadowlands s1 broken

gentle horizon
#

fury master race

queen peak
#

Ignore Pain? How bout some Blooooodthirsts

spice hornet
#

6 sec intervene critcake

#

Mortal combo

fair tide
#

just got home. Servers are still down?

spice hornet
#

Yup

gentle horizon
#

why do they need 8 hours for such a small patch lol

fair tide
#

This is Blizzard we're talking about

#

they could fuck up a cup of coffee

flat dome
#

Because it's more complicated than you think

shut barn
#

is rdruid still the best 2s healer for arms ?>

scarlet axle
#

I want to rbg and i enjoy warrior. Will i need to learn target calling? is it a hard skill to learn?

queen peak
#

Nah just charge in and bladestorm

teal light
#

You have to keep Major CC and CDs in mind for both the other team and yours. Selecting a target on average that has weak defensives.

green wyvern
#

ignore pain is overrated

#

damage is too high and dampening is too fast

copper hare
smoky anchor
green wyvern
#

ofc

#

people do 70k dps during burst

copper hare
#

just don't spec it then

green wyvern
#

more

smoky anchor
#

I mean

#

It's free shield

green wyvern
#

no what I want to say is

smoky anchor
#

And it stacks

#

You can just stack it up to 200k if you want

green wyvern
#

its effectiveness is much much lower compared to SL ignore pain

#

and people who think ignore pain is going to make warrior broken

smoky anchor
#

Well of course that's true lol sl ip was op

green wyvern
#

are clueless

queen peak
#

How many times does it stack? I thought it only stacked to 2 on the PTR

copper hare
#

You realise it's not only the absorb, but the interaction with anger management and the fact that we're being rage capped all the time?

#

so what you saying makes zero sense

smoky anchor
#

I think ip plus all the other changes are what is taking war over the top

green wyvern
#

?

smoky anchor
#

Well not over the top. Just to the top

green wyvern
#

warrior wont be S tier

#

it will be good

smoky anchor
#

Okay now that is cope

green wyvern
#

not S tier

smoky anchor
#

Supreme cope

near delta
smoky anchor
near delta
#

Could be a way to cheese it with stam enchnats and endurance training though possibly

flat dome
#

That is one less rising kick to the face

copper hare
#

so dark pact is only two mortal strikes? so overrated?

#

that's your logic?

urban skiff
#

what bladestorm feels like

near delta
#

I'm super excited for it just not sure it's going to make that much of a difference

flat dome
#

I'm more excited about the Troar changes

urban skiff
queen peak
green wyvern
#

arms will be decent/A tier

smoky anchor
#

I mean just the fact we'll be able to do unhinged and ep at the same time is pretty amazing, also big DMG buffs to op. Plus bleed build buffs. It's all really good and should take us to the top

near delta
#

But also I've heard dramatically different values for how big the shield is and wasn't able to test on ptr

green wyvern
#

assa > havoc > arms still stands true

#

not sure about other classes

queen peak
#

Is IP historically affected by dampening? I feel like no since its not a heal

green wyvern
#

absorb shield = heal

smoky anchor
#

Not sure about rogue because sometimes they just fall in my matches and other times they are completely cracked and carry the entire lobby

warm sigil
#

New arms build for arenas?

queen peak
#

Bleeeeeeeed it all

urban skiff
smoky anchor
copper hare
urban skiff
urban skiff
near delta
urban skiff
#

I ain't making any statements about rogues being bad or anything of the sort. It's just one of the classes that just does not make sense to me in any way

near delta
#

That amps up the damage a lot

urban skiff
near delta
#

I tried assa and I couldn't get it either lol. Not my kinda spec

urban skiff
#

Marked kidneys

smoky anchor
#

You can lock down a healer for so long. Just get them to trinket a kidney shot in the opener then repeat 30s later with a kidney > blind> sap

#

That's like 30 mins of cc

urban skiff
#

It's really strange too because I've been feral main for half of each expansion since vanilla and it clicks for me easy

smoky anchor
#

Well feral is amazing if I played druid I'd play that spec.

#

I can't into druid though. Just doesn't click.

urban skiff
#

it wasn't amazing last time i mained it! It was convoke or don't play druid at the time.

smoky anchor
#

They are so strong right now. Their damage is absolutely bonkers and borderline impossible to stop

#

Outside of forcing them into bear form

urban skiff
#

yea, I swore I'd stop chasing meta and just play what I feel like and this time around I feel like actually seeing my transmog

smoky anchor
#

Hahaha

#

Having played every class warrior is easily the most fun followed by mage and rogue. Kiting 2 melees as an arcane mage is so fun in ss

#

And 90% of matches have been melee trains for me

urban skiff
#

currently got a warrior, assa rogue and devoker

smoky anchor
#

Devoker is insane! Did u see that video from that match

urban skiff
#

nah

#

i mean evoker is kinda weird to me

smoky anchor
urban skiff
#

sometimes I just rake in kills left and right, other times i feel like I'm fighting them naked and drop dead in a stun

long ridge
#

bro that devoker shit has happened to me

urban skiff
#

the not figuring out part or the video?

long ridge
#

getting 1 shot

#

your SS enemies haven't figured out arcane is super hard to kill lol

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so wait we have to wait 2 more hours for the game to be playable...

urban skiff
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been struggling through bgs for the last 3 hours just to make sure I remember how bad arms felt when it's tomorrow

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all the bgs are DHs and ranged though right now. Lots of hunters gonna switch off of MM

long ridge
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yeah arms isn't great in rbg

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it's ok in 3s and shuffle

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i imagine marks was amazing, ele, locks.. maybe WW monk...

urban skiff
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marks losing double tap

long ridge
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IS REDDIT DOWN TOO WTF?

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yeah fuck 'em they deserve it

urban skiff
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just BYE FELICIA

long ridge
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they are all crying about it like it's not OP

urban skiff
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fuck 'em

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Give them chaos bolt

shy aurora
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Dont feel like ww is op

urban skiff
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The stupid parry from flurry is dumb

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If flurry parries then so should bladestorm

warm sigil
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How is fury gonna be after tomorrow changes?

urban skiff
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better than today

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Probably take note of what the ratings difference is right now between arms and fury so we have a before/after

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I think the gap might close instead of widen even with arms buffs

smoky anchor
warm sigil
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XD

shy aurora
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Arms will be better, fury decent

urban skiff
long ridge
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psh

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wouldn't that be something else

urban skiff
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solo shuffle tier lists also apply to 2v2 and 3v3 below 1500 rating

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for anyone curious

flat dome
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All of the fury buffs don't even pertain to the fury pvp spec

torpid roost
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tomorrow changes

urban skiff
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some of them do

torpid roost
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What

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Isn't patch today?

flat dome
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probably eu

urban skiff
torpid roost
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Oh oh oh, gotcha

urban skiff
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those all pertain to fury pvp spec

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Slaughterhouse (PvP Talent) now lasts 16 seconds (was 12 seconds).
Thunderous Roar (Talent) bleed damage no longer deals reduced damage in PvP (was 50% reduced).

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fury is going to bring a steady stream of damage without cooldowns and be very oppressive if they get to pop cooldowns unhindered.

long ridge
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will be fun to see

urban skiff
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I've definitely not given up on fury just yet

torpid roost
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Fury looks great, arms just looks better

vapid rover
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Raging blow build is way more interesting to play than annihilator

vapid rover
urban skiff
torpid roost
vapid rover
urban skiff
torpid roost
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Kinda wish it didn't lock off rb

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Yes i realize having cb and annihilation in the same build right but would be "a bit much"

warm sigil
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Fury is most fun im

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imo

flat dome
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Non annihilator is fun.

vapid rover
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How it can be fun ? You have less key to press than playing Garen in league of legends x)

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Naa im just mad guy. I know its fun at first and very easy to handle and use the spec, fury is more flexible to play. But after long time using the spec you just feel your brain melt second after second :x

shy aurora
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I also feel like annihilator is boring af

cinder thorn
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Both of you are clearly not angry enough to play fury

May I suggest monk as your main class, very calm like you

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Fury is for angry boys

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If you don't replace your keyboard once per week you're not pro fury player

sage raptor
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Arms is for people who's insecure about what other people play

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Judging from this discord lol

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Lot of projecting

teal light
copper hare
sage raptor
copper hare
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all this "arms mains, fury mains" is just for apes

cinder thorn
sage raptor
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Sure, maybe I started maining today

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But I'm still a warr main

teal light
cinder thorn
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Not you, the popo guy okayge

sage raptor
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That doesn't say another considering this expac is 5 months old lol

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It's Popo

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Nerd!

sage raptor
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Gah!

copper hare
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5?

dusk prairie
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I'm hoping the Fury buffs are decently noticeable in pvp. It just felt like I was tickling people with wet noodles as more weeks went by, whereas early on and in scaled down 60-69 bgs it still felt/feels greats

sage raptor
copper hare
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3

sage raptor
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Ohh

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Nvm

teal light
sage raptor
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There we go. That's better.

teal light
gentle horizon
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maintinence is now NINE HOURS

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

cinder thorn
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I only played warrior since vanilla it's my only toon

And I'm using same sword passed to me by my great grandfather who used to play wow in the 1930s

I also replace a keyboard every arena match

copper hare
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u guys deserve it

gentle horizon
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now i have to play this mid-tier fire emblem

teal light
copper hare
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we probably have 3 hours maintenance

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xd

gentle horizon
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in blizzard's choice-rank system the players are lowest

pure hornet
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Warrior is my only claas that i play,when i am not playing other classes

cinder thorn
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So, are you guys looking forward to all the asshole flavour of the month players to join warrior discord and suddenly pretend like they always been warriors?

gentle horizon
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people say im not a real warrior but ive been a warrior main since 2013, im just bad at the game