pvp

[smoky anchor]

adds a lot of dmg

[long ridge]

😢

[late nacelle]

Ye nah

Fk dragon roar

[smoky anchor]

but idk

the road is also a ton of damage

roar*

i'm more excited to have unhinged AND ep at the same time

with easier access to rend

[late nacelle]

Just spear doing like 120k on impact makes it stronger than roar

[copper hare]

and fatality

[smoky anchor]

i thought fatality is scuffed in pvp

[late nacelle]

I'd rather have improved MS than fatality

It's scuffed most of the time

[copper hare]

it is in shuffle, it can be really good in long 2s/3s games

[late nacelle]

But will win u some

[copper hare]

and the game is getting a little slower aswell

[smoky anchor]

ah

you could drop wrecking throw

for roar

in comps where you dont need it

[copper hare]

No, you only have a certain amount of points in the last row

[long ridge]

no i need a pt up there can't drop that

[copper hare]

skipping 5% dmg

[long ridge]

how'd u do dat

[copper hare]

is NOT the move

[long ridge]

oh

AXE

[smoky anchor]

wait

i manually counted and it doesn't add to 20

wait what lol it is fine

[smoky anchor]

but ya i forgot to get 2h specialization

[long ridge]

BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgSiERCJJpVKJBAAAAEEJCkAERjSSSkEKSEEASkAAAAAAAAQiSiIAQDB

okay tell me why this is horrible

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/

[smoky anchor]

i think that might be the way

but unhinged without spear seems aids

[long ridge]

nah man

u can still whirlwind people

[smoky anchor]

true i suppose

[long ridge]

damn we get so much shit tuesday

this is amazing

now i just need someone better than me to fix that build and i'm gonna be cumming all day like arnold

[smoky anchor]

that's awesome

i mean that talent tree you linked

but i've been using blunt instruments a lot more lately

horry fak

[brazen rock]

reflect it 4head

[smoky anchor]

that's a resto druid getting deleted

227k surge into 236k pom arcane blast

[oak heath]

this holy pally was running the dispel talent that dispels everyone of the same thing and took a UA hit for 200k and died immediately

love RSS

so wacky

[smoky anchor]

dude ya that happened to me the other day too

i didn't realize unstable affliction could hit so hard

[oak heath]

that was a double lock ele shadow lobby and I honestly just wanted to die

when people talk about how easy melee have it, I want to show them what happened to me in that lobby

just 3 casters standing in a triangle around me

lmfao

[smoky anchor]

r u still gonna not play unhinged in 10.0.5

[mild thunder]

into non-pet teams, yea it'll be very nice to have

[smoky anchor]

let's say it's a pet team

what are you gonna take instead

[mild thunder]

there's not really great options, but probably a second point into bloodborne

maybe, maybe switch some stuff to take sks but i fucking hate that ability

[oak heath]

can I see some of your UIs?

Like nameplates and stuff

I tried to keep it simple but eventually I'll mace like arena 123 storm bolt macros when I feel like I'm comfortable enough in general

[woven pulsar]

I've always used default ui with extra buttons on the side.

[elfin surge]

6-0 😎

[oak heath]

teach me

I am a 3-3 kinda dude

[elfin surge]

match ret paladins in damage

[oak heath]

How do you deal with locks?

[elfin surge]

Attack them

I play wrecking throw and banner

[oak heath]

This really is the warrior discord

[elfin surge]

and just slam them all game

go fast, eat ass

[oak heath]

I've been taking recking throw against them but it's tough rn because I keep having these matches where

I'll get like MW/Ret or Lock/MW or Lock/Ret EVERY game basically, so it's like

High value from shattering and wrecking

[elfin surge]

a lot of the time when an immunity is used

they are topped

and its a lot better to just tab to the next target

and keep damage going

rather than shattering

but yea sometimes u need shattering but wrecking usually has more value in shuffles

[oak heath]

Would you describe like your general opener?

[elfin surge]

Snare, double overpower stormbolt banner and send the burst

faster the better

[oak heath]

I see a lot of people spear/breaker/avatar immediately

Do you never do that?

[elfin surge]

not immediately

[copper hare]

I knew you're a slam spammer

[elfin surge]

I like like getting 2x overpower for my ava spear go

[elfin surge]

my azerite trait procs a huge slam tho

[copper hare]

good ol times

[elfin surge]

imagine being one shot by

slam

[mystic barn]

noob

[elfin surge]

thats like fire blast one shotting u

[copper hare]

imagine needing 9 slam talents now so it does the same damage as in SL

yikes

[elfin surge]

yea rend shouldnt do more instant damage than slam

just doesnt feel good

nerf rend damage buff rend bleed damage

[copper hare]

even thunderclap does more dmg than slam next week

that's a bummer

[elfin surge]

yea thunderclap is for

prot warriors

im not using that

[copper hare]

can pretend to be feral

no booorst

just pets

[elfin surge]

rbg build

[copper hare]

100% rend uptime

1.8% dmg

haha

[oak heath]

I cant wait for tuesday man

Just had a feral/ele/UH lobby

so disgusting

[smoky anchor]

is that true

my rend usually does a lot more

but maybe im high

[inner oasis]

Jees just came back to the game. lvled my warrior a few days ago. I was planning to play fury like i did in shadowlands. But I just critted 125k ms in arena. Not sure if i want to go back to fury or my priest main now

[mild thunder]

im starting to think the ele shaman "nerfs" were borderline meaningless

[oak heath]

[smoky anchor]

arms is based

[copper hare]

should have just flat nerfed lava burst by 10-15%

the set nerf was good I guess

[mild thunder]

even the set nerf wasnt that harsh, earth shock can hit hard but it isnt that much of their damage really

and they got healing and some other buffs

[inner oasis]

They nerfed the mastery hits dint they?

[mild thunder]

dont believe so

[oak heath]

@elfin surge do you sharpen the avatar or hold it for the next boosted MS?

[mild thunder]

the bonus from one of the prime wave talents was nerfed from 15% to like 10%, and then the 2pc was nerfed by 50% im pretty sure

[lean burrow]

do we get rage when we are attacked?

[elfin surge]

sharpen during burst man

[mild thunder]

no

[lean burrow]

always feels like there's more rage in pvp than pve

[smoky anchor]

prob cause ur not wasting it on slam but i have zero clue how warrior in pve works

[mild thunder]

yea that ^

[oak heath]

right thats what I mean snare -> 2x op -> bolt -> warbreaker -> spear -> sharpen/avatar

[mild thunder]

plus you pretty much never run battlelord in pve

[copper hare]

even pve arms now is rage capped a lot of times if not playing whirlwind build

[inner oasis]

I bladestormed so many ppl today with sharpen. So fun

[copper hare]

every second global in pvp is pretty much overpower

[elfin surge]

sweeping somewhere in there and i spear before csmash but yea pretty much that

[mild thunder]

unless you get 5 straight ms resets

[lean burrow]

nvm

[mild thunder]

why am i convinced that isnt true?

[oak heath]

thanks man ❤️

[copper hare]

I'm kinda sure it's a prot only thing

[mild thunder]

im with Mave

[inner oasis]

Im a noob so i 2xop-sweep-bolt-smash-sharpen-swifty macro with avatar and spear on me+trinket and execute spam. Prob very wrong

[lean burrow]

i like when that happens

[copper hare]

I had a dh in my shuffle playing adapt trinket

[lean burrow]

imagine if mortal combo conduit was in df

[copper hare]

he got globaled every round

[mild thunder]

ms resets are fun

[copper hare]

2.5 mmr btw, yikes

[mild thunder]

but in an ideal world, id still rather they massively cut back on procs and ms reset mechanics for arms

[inner oasis]

Ppl say fury is 3 buttons. Arms feels very similar.

Will 4set be worth it for arms?
And do we have to wait 4 weeks to make it like in shadowlands?

[mild thunder]

arms at least has a bit more to track/keep in mind, especially if running rend

it also has more variance rather than a totally scripted rotation

[wheat crane]

Blasphemous

How dare you

Chain gun mortal strikes

[mild thunder]

just think - if ms was on a 6s CD, and you couldnt reset it every 2 seconds, it could hit even harder

[wheat crane]

You crazy sob, im in

[inner oasis]

Then you would have to press more slams :0

[mild thunder]

its the same thing with enh and their 10 billion stormstrike resets

[wheat crane]

Wish theyd make rend baseline

Rather press that then slam

[mild thunder]

i wouldnt hate a return to wod slam, where it behaved like mongoose bite

[wheat crane]

Slam kills all fun

[mild thunder]

but i guess survival would just complain

idk, arms is super fun right now and 10.0.5 is gonna be dope, BUT needing to use an off-GCD defensive in order for your rotation to feel complete is just poor design

[inner oasis]

I started playing with rend. It did ok damage. But i swapped to the execute build

[wheat crane]

Its not worth pressing/playing atm

[inner oasis]

More fun to spam execute with no cd

[lean burrow]

execute build?

[wheat crane]

With executioner 100%

[lean burrow]

[wheat crane]

Get those ms buff stacks

[inner oasis]

Immortal execute talent

Wtf.. lol

Improved execute

[smoky anchor]

executioner's precision

[lean burrow]

cant you use it with rend?

[smoky anchor]

yea

[lean burrow]

rend just replaces slam to dump rage

[oak heath]

@elfin surge thanks to your strat I was able to delete this DH from the surface of the earth

[torpid roost]

Immortal Execute sounds cooler though

[tardy flame]

3-3, healers going 6-0 and 0-6. Everyone gains rating except me and the healer who went 0-6. Wonderful

[silver holly]

well what is best option to replace unhinged on these matchups?

[torpid roost]

Executioner's precision

Or rend but I don't really like playing it

[silver holly]

isnt unhinged better to press the healers/other dps during switch?

i usually slow dk zoo and go into some1 else so theres not much targets around me for unhinged, same goes for demo and bm

bad targets to train, almost never a kill target

[real shuttle]

How is fury doing and will it ger better on wednesday ?

[silver holly]

at least in my 1700

[oak heath]

dk cant be slowed much, plus if you go towards their team with CDs up, you're probably gonna get gripped and sipped

[real shuttle]

Is the zugzug dream still alice?

[mild thunder]

fury is shit

fury will be slightly less, but still shit on tuesday

[real shuttle]

fury is shit
@mild thunder right in the feels

[silver holly]

not talking bout dk, but his zoo

[real shuttle]

So arms is what we play in arenas i guess?

[mild thunder]

arms is gonna be probably the best spec in pvp come tuesday

so yea

[silver holly]

if youre based you play arms, if youre cringe you play fury

[oak heath]

i dont think arms will be like as good as pre-nerf dh or dk tbh

I think it will be a nice balance tho

[mild thunder]

pre-nerf dh maybe not, but we'll be the best melee in the game

[silver holly]

only bleed build exists after reset?

[mild thunder]

expect some nerfs a week or two after 10.0.5

[oak heath]

rogue also gets aoe MS bleed% shiv as well

if you thought feral was nuts OH BOY

[lean burrow]

i'm prepared for fotm rerollers on reddit to cry about arms

always brings me joy

[mild thunder]

im prepared for this channel to get the onslaught of fotm rerollers asking questions

"what build pls"

"what comp best"

[silver holly]

i guess in 10.1 they'll straight up give rogues LoH, to be the ultimate stompers

[mild thunder]

idk, other questions

[lean burrow]

"what's intervene?"

[oak heath]

i think the rise of arms and frost being our hard counter means the return of RMP

[lean burrow]

"what oneshot macro?"

[mild thunder]

it'll be stuff like "what stats", "what crafted gear do we get", "is tier set worth" etc

[silver holly]

how to beat ret in damage?

[oak heath]

how to stance dance

[mild thunder]

the equivalent of "what covenant" or "whats bis leggo"

[silver holly]

im fucking tired of rets annihilating ppl

[copper hare]

what piece to craft unity on?

[silver holly]

i try to survive the burst but it just doesnt end, after wings they go seraph and im getting critted for 90-130k

[mild thunder]

wait, whats this apparent assa rogue aoe sharpen?

[silver holly]

i try to kite and they just delete the other dps or heal

or im getting that shitty aoe which increases holy dmg taken (also a crit for 100k) and after leap its just divine toll for another 100-150k

like how many buttons with 100k+ dmg on one gcd this class has

[mild thunder]

nothing ret does is off-GCD

[silver holly]

yea i think i need to better learn ret abilities cuz they always surprise me with that huge burst

[lean burrow]

duel talent

[silver holly]

never seen anyone taking duel for ret

thought about it many times

[mild thunder]

duel is probably underused tbh... if you duel and leap as far away as possible, you can probably stop the go

[silver holly]

b-but i like to do cleave damage how am i supposed to damage them if i duel and leap....

alright i guess dead dont do damage so thats a point

[hazy isle]

ill give it 2 weeks until arms is nerfed

[copper hare]

the only thing they might do is nerfing mortal strikes when everyone has 2 set

I wouldn't be surprised

[hazy isle]

worldpvp leddit + venruki bitching clips

[mild thunder]

nah they'll nerf rend by another 30% 🤡

cant have sks oneshotting guys

[oak heath]

ret burst is this ->

They get to 5 holy power first to get the Dawn buff. like 5% extra damage, then they wings, then they seraph, then they execution sentence, then they divine toll to get back to high holy power, then they use reckoning then they do like 2x finishers, and right as execution is about to drop, they will usually HOJ and radiant decree.

Execution Sentence works based on how much holy power was spent in it, so if you have exe sentence hanging above your head they are targeting YOU specifically for their bankai-ass burst.

You want to be looking for the HoJ after you hear a huge bell sound, and a bunch of judgements fly everywhere, that's when you're thinking about trying to spell reflect HOJ. I like to disarm the nansecond they drop reckoning because reckoning buffed the holy damage their targets take. So you can spell reflect hoj, disarm before decree to shut down their burst. Typically, i just piercing howl/fear and leap behind a pillar if execution is on me

[copper hare]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=392566/enfeeble

This DK spell is getting nerfed in pvp

I didn't even know that was a fucking thing

like what

[oak heath]

why does rends initial hit do 2x more than slam

[gentle horizon]

are wars still gonna suck on tuesday?

[mild thunder]

arms is already pretty good

gonna be completely busted on reset

[tawny river]

"still"?! o.O

[dusky helm]

does slaughterhouse have to go on a different target before it will reapply to someone that had it before?

for fury

[oak heath]

hear me out

female kultiran warrior

[finite fox]

So modern day feminist

[oak heath]

What's wrong with feminists?

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/harold-hide-the-pain-harold-smile-gif-21804346

[smoky anchor]

interesting dmg breakdown when t hey die in the opener

[oak heath]

Very nice... Let's see Paul Allen's opener.

[copper hare]

that is kinda accurate lol

[smoky anchor]

sharpen is only on main target i believe, aoe is regular ms

[mild thunder]

not that bad then... OP, but so are we

[sage raptor]

yes

[sharp meteor]

I tried, it's bad.

[barren vale]

not that enchants are the biggest difference maker, but do we enchant speed or leech?

as arms

[red ether]

i like speed

its pretty negligible tbh

[copper hare]

speed zug zug

[urban skiff]

Hemotoxin + new talent that makes shiv deal 500% extra damage and hit like 8 targets

so 35% sharpen that also increases their damage taken like warbreaker.

sorry, just noticed someone else already replied

[mild thunder]

im pretty sure its only 20% ms effect in aoe, and the aoe warbreaker effect isnt that special, because they dont really aoe

also the +500% shiv has been a thing since SL, not sure if its ever really been good

[urban skiff]

yeah my bad, I remembered it wrong

what it does is increase bleed damage taken

[mild thunder]

allg, ive been super confused what everyone's complaining about

[finite fox]

I think I actually hear my arms warrior before Tuesday so I can try and flex on everyone with buffs next week

[mild thunder]

its really not that big of a deal

[urban skiff]

I just can't find the motivation to queue up this week, with the buffs looming

which is kinda bad because I want my vault

[finite fox]

I want a third character to hit 2400 in shuffle

Arms becomes what high A tier Tuesday?

[smoky anchor]

s

easily

[mild thunder]

SS

[finite fox]

Yal think so?

[smoky anchor]

yea

there is hardly any weakness that i can identify honestly

[finite fox]

What’s the comp then for 3s arms ret

Kekw turbo

[smoky anchor]

ima simp for tsg

[finite fox]

I’d have said tsg before the dk nerfs

Honestly

Thunder may be kinda fuckin nuts

[mild thunder]

arms/ret
tsg
thunder
kitty
arms/sp

[finite fox]

Warrior arguably one of the best peelers and that’s the only thing ele needs due to its defense issues and is about be even stronger

[mild thunder]

all still really good

[smoky anchor]

dude

playing with ele is really fun

[finite fox]

I played ele to 2300 this last week 0-2300

My only issue was not having a good peeler

[tawny river]

500% shiv damage makes it hit like 15-20k max, and it cleaves +4 target not 8

and you have to give up garrote silence probably if you want to take that node

just hit up the talent tree, they can take garrote silence with it, but they would lose 20% garrote damage from stealth, bone spike or sepsis, doomblade which is an extra DOT

[torpid roost]

Body mass index, IQ, anyone who always maneuvers themselves to be a victim is an unproductive threat, uhhh.... I could go on

[oak heath]

Jesus christ

[mild thunder]

cmon, lets not be cringe please

this is a warrior discord

[urban skiff]

jfc

can we get that message pinned so people know how not to act?

[shut barn]

Just came back to the game

How is the meta

In 2s 3s

[finite fox]

Changes every week

Just roll the dice bby

[tardy flame]

Huge changes this week. Arms will be in a great place

[shut barn]

How much solo shuffle matters

[tardy flame]

Game is fun

[finite fox]

If you like to flame random healers? It’s great

[urban skiff]

ask in a week

[shut barn]

Got ret dk dh warrior at level 60

[shut barn]

Just wana level 1 of these

And my time is limited

New semester starts in 1 month

[finite fox]

What I personally like to do is tilt my team mates every shuffle

So I can just steamroll the game and get my free points

[tardy flame]

Level whatever you enjoy playing. All of those class/specs are viable

[shut barn]

How is the gearing

[finite fox]

Easy

[tardy flame]

For PvP, easy as

[finite fox]

Easiest it’s ever been

[mild thunder]

takes about 3-4 hours to get max honour geared

[shut barn]

How much time do I need to get the full pvp gear

[tardy flame]

You crank out two hours of BGs and you're full ilevel 411. 424 is current PvP gear

[finite fox]

Idk man how good are you

[shut barn]

What about conq gear

[finite fox]

That’s a relative question

If you are shit

Then a longer time than someone not shit

[mild thunder]

depends on how many arenas you do

[shut barn]

2200 as arms warrior whole SL in 3s and 2s

[mild thunder]

if you're full honour geared, there's not much to worry about... gear disparity is such a non-issue

[finite fox]

New xpack new talents new everything doesn’t really hold relevance

I only say that because I constantly see people riding gladiator slands drakes be shit

[shut barn]

Yeah my friend told me arenas are exteremly hard

Compare to SL

[finite fox]

My point .. arenas not hard if not bad

[shut barn]

True

[finite fox]

Problem is

[shut barn]

But as u say new xpac

And we both came back

After 6 month

[mild thunder]

not really... 2s are super deflated because of solo shuffle, 3s still a bit deflated

[shut barn]

I’ve heard something about burst damage changes

[finite fox]

New talents and everything been out since end of slands so others have more time with it than you

[mild thunder]

but its not anymore difficult than usual

[shut barn]

Did they nerf burst damage ?

So u guys say arms is solid pick ?

[finite fox]

On some classes

[mild thunder]

there are some trinket bonus adjustments coming on reset that are intended to slow down oneshots

[tardy flame]

Plenty of burst going around, but it is pretty much all avoidable*

[mild thunder]

and yes arms is good

[tardy flame]

Ret is huge burst, but it requires so much setup

[finite fox]

Not anymore bby

Only major dangerous burst will be ele

[warped warren]

arms trucks!!

[finite fox]

And maybe destro

[mild thunder]

🤨

[finite fox]

[mild thunder]

i mean, we can pretty much oneshot, dh is getting buffs to the hunt, devoker can burst insanely hard etc

idk why you would say only ele has dangerous burst lol

[smoky anchor]

Isn't hunt burst nerfed

[finite fox]

The hunt dot is getting buffed and nothing else, hunt is completely counterable by almost everyone class if they know what they are doing.. devoker just got their burst slapped and sustain increased

[tardy flame]

It is

[oak heath]

Hunt damage was lowered, then the first initial dot was fixed so its frontload is less, but now it's getting a slight buff

[tardy flame]

The first DoT tick is delayed, which is massive

[finite fox]

Delayed but overall dots getting increased by a bit not into dangerous territory

[mild thunder]

the hunt is only easily counterable because most dh are retarded gimps

[smoky anchor]

It is so satisfying to watch a dh blur just from incidental cleave

[finite fox]

If your saying because it can be canceled and recast then that’s not the issue.. wait til they fly across the map and you can just cc them out of it don’t press cc early

[smoky anchor]

Then kill him after blur with StormBolt and cs

[mild thunder]

but if they're properly loading essence break, blade dance and the hunt into a short window, they can definitely come close to onetapping

[finite fox]

Meh

[mild thunder]

if a dh is flying across the map with the hunt, they're a retard

[finite fox]

Obviously across map is excessive but even short range u still have a moment to cancel the@

Them

[mild thunder]

yea, thats not how good players use it

[finite fox]

Im 2400 on my dh I know how it’s used lmfaoo

[mild thunder]

they'll slam it into a short window with blade dance and essence break while you're cc'd

and generally use it close to right on top of you

[finite fox]

Kinda wild to let them use it on top of you

[mild thunder]

omg its almost like they'll cc you

crazy

[smoky anchor]

"let them" what are you going to do to stop them lmao while u are stunned

[mild thunder]

no no, ardeaf

dont let them

ask them politely to stop

[finite fox]

Yal seem mighty pressed about this

I still say dh burst isn’t dangerous after nerfs

[smoky anchor]

Best counter for me is just spell reflect the dot

Nobody is pressed were just saying it's not trivial to stop a good dh hunt

[mild thunder]

"not dangerous"

[finite fox]

It’s fine difference of opinion is good for competition. Sorry if you struggle with dh burst friend.

[mild thunder]

alright, bud, its okay... we wont make fun of you for pushing 2400 as a dh

[finite fox]

Thanks man I appreciate your support. I don’t mind if you laugh though whatever helps you get through your struggles.

[mild thunder]

i will laugh, thanks

you were probably the type of guy to say that dh never needed nerfs

[finite fox]

Nah I was def for the nerf, as well as glaive toss bleed needed nerf to. Im all about what’s good for game health

[simple rock]

working as intended

no idea how I got this lobby

[finite fox]

Imagine if you went 4-2

That would have been like -48 points

[simple rock]

wasn't even that long of a queue

games broken

[sharp meteor]

lol

lmao

[fickle forge]

So the average DH rating

Gottem

😎👍

[finite fox]

[next herald]

I rarely do - i have omnibar but i have No awareness for IT or the correct settings ? I Sometimes use trinket when i think i can Finish someone. I asked for review once but i got a more detailed answers Like "at Minute xx was a Bad fear" instead of General advices that Seem to be my Problem

[mild thunder]

`ive seen so many dh that just blur in the opener, dont cc for the hunt, los their healer etc... its actually embarrassing

[mystic barn]

galanoob

[finite fox]

Actually I pop darkness in the opener

[steel trout]

EP

[mild thunder]

true

[copper hare]

overpower is gonna slap so hard next week

I don't think people are ready for that

[grand scaffold]

anybody on NA at 2200 queing solo shuffle atm?

curious what the ques are looking like

in terms of classes

[finite fox]

Don’t think q times change based on classes

[grand scaffold]

you'd be suprised

[shut barn]

is crit/uhhinged is the spec now ?

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-chappelle-show-lil-jon-lil-jon-yeah-yeah-gif-24845852

[mild thunder]

Are you gonna run strength of arms?

[grand scaffold]

whatsz that

[steel hawk]

With the new fury buffs coming alongside arms getting ip, is fury going to be viable or is arms still going to be better?

[grand scaffold]

both

fury is gonna be good

and

arms will stomp

[copper hare]

100%

dreadnaught will also scale with overpower modifiers next week

[grand scaffold]

dreadnaught gonna be so good

[copper hare]

dreadnaught gonna get a flat 50% buff

xd

[mild thunder]

Yea gonna slap

I reckon strength of arms will be really good, but just lose out to improved ss really often

21 seconds bro, so wild

[copper hare]

OP also gets a flat 10% buff, another 10% crit chance and 10% crit damage

[urban skiff]

What are you on about? They literally already pick up that talent right now. https://murlok.io/character/eu/dun-modr/blindsaplol/pvp

[tawny river]

from top50 3v3 - 0

from top50 2v2 - 4

3 from top50 solo shuffle

so yeah they clearly don't pick that, in AWC it wasn't picked a single time so far

[copper hare]

my OP is already critting for 70k with cds

add another 20% to that, yikes

[fickle forge]

AWC never reflects ladder doe

[tawny river]

yeah that's why i wrote top 3v3, 2v2, solo first

but the shiv cleave talent will be in the place of Kingsbane, so they need to invest 4 more points after taking the 500% shiv damage talent

if they want that

[fickle forge]

Just that you can amp bleeds and AoE MS

I mean

Any rot comp would love it

[mild thunder]

is that including dreadnaught?

[tawny river]

more bleed damage below 35% HP is not so great for PvP, they can take it, but i can't see why someone invest so much into that side just to get aoe shiv

[copper hare]

Nope

[mild thunder]

damn

[muted surge]

Your op Hits like my ms wtf

[steep inlet]

Wtf

it’s a French friend

why u link him haha

[copper hare]

just equip your 2 set https://gyazo.com/6d7b0d613ed22625ff0051d42d36b813

[grand scaffold]

100 pushups today

started actually working out ~2 days ago

😄

[muted surge]

No wonder you got your Rating up again

[grand scaffold]

😄

hopefully in 2 months i have nice visible muscles

[azure moss]

It's supposed to be a lifestyle

[grand scaffold]

well eventually

not atm

rn im just tryna get ripped

and then maintain thnat

[azure moss]

Whats ur height and weight?

[grand scaffold]

im like 5'8' atm

about 67.5 kg

[azure moss]

My brother in wow

[grand scaffold]

lil bit short

[azure moss]

You need to gain some mass

[grand scaffold]

yaaaaah

[muted surge]

Gotta eat more

And the cut

[grand scaffold]

yea

[azure moss]

Im 5'7 77kg

[grand scaffold]

dang

[azure moss]

If you cut when you have 0 mass at 67kg

[muted surge]

But idk, are 2 months enough?

[azure moss]

Youll end up looking emaciated

[grand scaffold]

to be really strong nah

[azure moss]

At like 55kg

[grand scaffold]

to look better

fuck yeah

[muted surge]

I go since a month and don’t notice Shit

[grand scaffold]

im doing 100 pushups 100 situps 100 squats 100 dips per day

[muted surge]

Okay the one Puch man Training

[azure moss]

I mean what do you want in a month

[grand scaffold]

yah

[muted surge]

Its not very useful is it

[grand scaffold]

idk i started 2 days ago

[muted surge]

Cbum

[azure moss]

If you want to be shredded you need the mass to actually be shredded

You cant chisel a pebble

[muted surge]

That’s why I bulked my whole life

[muted surge]

Do you do them over the day or in 1 Short Session

[grand scaffold]

in a day

i take 10 reps bc im weak then i go again

[azure moss]

Go to a gym and start doing an organised plan

[grand scaffold]

bruh gyms in africa are expensive as shit

i aint money for that

😂

[muted surge]

Thats not very good

[azure moss]

Really?

[grand scaffold]

well yeayh

i started 2 days ago

😂

[azure moss]

How much are they per month?

[muted surge]

And i don’t mean your endurance

[azure moss]

The entry cost

[grand scaffold]

like 300 bucks

[muted surge]

But the way you Train

[grand scaffold]

and i cant go everyday

[azure moss]

300 bucks a month!!?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its way too much fuckin money

[azure moss]

Surely theres some shithole gym with just basic equipment

Not like equanox

[grand scaffold]

bruh thats where you get robbed

😂

[azure moss]

Well i dont live there so i cant comment

Btw opm routine is meant to be a meme

Cant believe people unironically do it

[grand scaffold]

i know

but

not bad for starting imo

eventually ill get weight sets and stuff

[azure moss]

Its bad for starting

[grand scaffold]

why

[azure moss]

Because theres no balance

[azure moss]

Lets see

Wheres the back training ?

Also why 100 push ups then 100 dips?

[grand scaffold]

no particular order

i just do 1 thing at a time

is there an order im supposed to do stuff in?

[muted surge]

yea thats an issue

yes

[grand scaffold]

0_0

[muted surge]

if you want to build muscle, you want to push your muscles to the point of failure

and you are not doing that

also 100 push ups are way way more difficult than 100 squads or situps

normally you alternate as a beginner betenn push pull leg core

and if you spread everything across a day

[azure moss]

If youre gonna eventually do weights just go straight to it

[muted surge]

it as neglidle impact

[azure moss]

Dont do this meme shit

You can do a noob upper lower split with managable weights

[muted surge]

nah you dont need weights imo

but you need some equipment

dont you have a park with some shit ?

[summer tiger]

ah the warrior discord special

[fickle forge]

Average rogue right there

[azure moss]

i just lurk cause im shit at war but i know my fitness

So felt compelled to respond

[grand scaffold]

so do pushups last?

[muted surge]

no

[grand scaffold]

bruh so in what order

[muted surge]

you need to get some actualy adivce and a trainings plan

[summer tiger]

yeah dw fitness talk is the usual on here

[muted surge]

dont just do random shit and waste your time

[fickle forge]

Sounds like you need to invest in calisthenics at a park/gym

[muted surge]

but for calisthenics you need to actually do the exerisies right

and not just how you see others doing it

[grand scaffold]

bro wtf is calisthenics

[muted surge]

body weight training

[grand scaffold]

thats like the longest word ive heard today

oh

[fickle forge]

If you don't care about strength or aesthetics and just wanna be ripped, calisthenics is the way

[muted surge]

isnt aesthetics == ripped

[summer tiger]

I mean aesthetics = ripped

ye

[fickle forge]

Yes, but with some muscle at least 😎👍

[muted surge]

excet bodybuilding asthecis i guess

[fickle forge]

Feels bad to call BB ppl calisthenics

That's for rogues

[muted surge]

bb ?

[fickle forge]

Bodybuilding

[muted surge]

oh yea it isnt

[hot solstice]

hmmm...I see 10.0.5 in 3 days but I still cant find pvp illusion

[copper hare]

terrible idea

U rather shift your workouts towards certain muscle parts in a day and then let them rest after for 1-2 days

[lean burrow]

this post got deleted

[quasi lotus]

100 of each of those a day is pretty sustainable tho

[quasi lotus]

Minimal benefit after a while but you're not gonna get mad fatigued

[muted surge]

whats the point if you dont get fatigues tho

and ye its alright if you do it in one go

[copper hare]

maybe but you aint growing shit if you don't rest and dont intensify the workouts

[muted surge]

but not over a day

[quasi lotus]

I mean there's no point. Go to a gym

But hey its something

[muted surge]

is it ?

i if do 10 push ups per hour

i dont think anythinc changes tbh

[quasi lotus]

You get better at doing pushups

Probably some cardio benefits if you the volume quickly 🤷‍♂️

[hot solstice]

1hand push ups? no hand push ups?

[copper hare]

Also different kind of push ups help a lot but again, rather do them slow and conenctrated than trying to hit 100 in a day, rather do 3x10 which are actually slow and hard

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/push-ups-no-hands-work-out-gif-11981348

[copper hare]

but rest is important

rest is almost as important as 2 set for arms

xd

[muted surge]

realy hope the next patch helps the healers to have fun :<

[summer tiger]

Honestly in a sense, solo q rbgs would've worked better than arenas imo.

Don't get me wrong I love shuffle, but I feel like people would've queued rbgs more than this.

[mild thunder]

soloq rbgs would be the most toxic, painful and unproductive gamemode in existence

what're they gonna do, rotate all 20 players? lmao

[summer tiger]

so just like every other competetive game in solo q ?

[mild thunder]

imagine the queue times waiting for 6 healers and 2 tanks for soloq 🤡

[summer tiger]

could make it tankless, and again I'd bet more of the casual playerbase would be more willing to queue that rather than arenas

[mild thunder]

even tankless, waiting for 6 healers for an rbg queue would take absurdly long, just wouldnt work

the day blizz does soloQ rbgs is the day rbgs die completely

[summer tiger]

Idk man,my random bgs have 2 healers + per team

and I q for 2 minutes

[mild thunder]

because its random bgs

[summer tiger]

yeah now imagine all that playerbase, spamming random bgs

spamming rated bgs soloq instead

[mild thunder]

there's probably more people queueing, it doesnt have to account for mmr, doesnt have to account for class/spec and how many are in a game etc

think about all the calculations that solo shuffle is supposed to make to make things "fair"... it just wouldnt work for rbgs

and if it doesnt account for class/spec, enjoy your 4 warlock, 2 boomy, 1 mm rbgs

[summer tiger]

All I'm saying is that arena is problematic in the first place for WoW pvp to flourish. Imagine being completely new to the game and trying to get in to it.

[mild thunder]

how are wow arenas problematic in the first place?

[summer tiger]

The pvp playerbase is dying and is not increasing at all, the only people playing are returning players and current players, with us losing more people than gaining. This gamemode is literally bound to die.

So the real question is

what isn't problematic

[copper hare]

idk pvp was always a mini game compared to pve

[wheat jay]

Tryhard mode in a 18 year old game

[mild thunder]

wow pvp playerbase has always been a niche part of the game

[wheat jay]

Of course its a small niche

[mild thunder]

the only way to change that is an unhealthy mandatory incentivisation for pve players

[wheat jay]

Most toxic playerbase too

[mild thunder]

im not toxic, its just that everyone else is a retard

out of everything to do in wow pvp, rbgs are the most niche and inaccessible

the entirety of the high rbg brackets are made out of cringe, tryhard guilds

[muted surge]

solo queue rbg woudl suck dick

[summer tiger]

Or open it up to the casuals. Again this game is hard. Putting a casual in an arena and telling him to kill someone (he will fail 50 times over before he does 1 good thing)

[mild thunder]

most of those players would just stop if soloQ rbgs came in and killed rbgs

[copper hare]

Nah

pve is the same shit

[summer tiger]

What's a better environment to put the new player that's learning in. Imo it's def bgs cause they can at least click flags / bases and feel good about it.

[mild thunder]

pve is way more toxic tbh

[muted surge]

not realz _

[mild thunder]

trying to pug m+ is easily the worst experience in wow

[muted surge]

in arena you go and kill someone, maybe cc

thats it

if a healer decides to go capture the flag

you lose, gg

[mild thunder]

you really think an rbg teamfight where they get 100-0 zerged by an entire enemy team is a better experience?

[copper hare]

everytime I pug a 21/22/23 key and its a deplete people go full ham on eachother, like not even close to pvp

I think even since the contract shit a lot of pvp players dont even write anymore

they're too afraid of getting reported

[muted surge]

is the max i get in pvp

[mild thunder]

literally me, i just type out my messages and delete them to vent frustration

[slender oak]

arms or fury right now in pvp?

[summer tiger]

Absolutely, lesser chance for the blame to be put on them, more chance for them to just say (my team fucking sucks), why do you think games like league and other mobas are so successful.

It's all about player comfort

[muted surge]

but bgs are so much more than team fights

[mild thunder]

mobas arent remotely comparable to bgs tho

[muted surge]

its so easy to fuck up

[summer tiger]

yes and arenas are also easy to fuck up

you hold w in to their team and you die

[muted surge]

but arena is more micro and not macro

[wheat jay]

Nah

[muted surge]

and you have 1 clear objective

[summer tiger]

you're new, you don't know what cds they're using you have absolutely 0 clue

[muted surge]

while in bg you have multiple objectives

[wheat jay]

Only noobs are toxic in pve

But in pvp everyone is xd

[mild thunder]

yea, so now add 7 extra players on top

idk why you think rbgs are easier

[summer tiger]

Cause again they provide more comfort room. You only think about optimal play.

do you really think

soloq rbgs

would be played optimally

[mild thunder]

rarely

[summer tiger]

exactly, so end of the line it becomes random bgs

bit with rating

[muted surge]

and then you have 1 decent team

and the other gets stomped

idk

its just gonna be even more toxic

than arena

[summer tiger]

yeah that happens all the time in other successfull comp games

[mild thunder]

so, kill rbgs, divert casual, returning and new players away from arenas entirely, to create a shitty pseudo-random bg bracket with insanely long queue times?

[muted surge]

soloq in arena is fine, bcs you swap team eveyr round

[mild thunder]

big brain

[summer tiger]

who said divert lmao

[muted surge]

more game modes = more diversion

[mild thunder]

^

[old fulcrum]

We need 1 more solo q mode - Double DD 2s arena 🤡

[summer tiger]

Here's the reality, there's shit loads of players spamming random bgs, cause that's the only fun thing for them. And matter of fact, that's the biggest part of the pvp community, except they're silent.

[bright stream]

nah just needed get more players that arent playing healer to consider it

[muted surge]

i dont think people who only play random bgs would play ranked

[bright stream]

healer players will say that healing needs to be fun

but that idea is stupid

plenty of the time is miserable to play dps characters

you need rewards to get people motivated

[mild thunder]

nono, they distinctly play random bgs because they hate ranked, so if we bring in a ranked gamemode, they'll play it 🤡

[bright stream]

solo queue rbg would be sick

[summer tiger]

i think they would, cause that's the easiest way for them to get conq gear

[bright stream]

and who cares if it kills the rbg community

[summer tiger]

rbg community does not exist

[mild thunder]

not me, id care about it killing arenas

[summer tiger]

its fucking 200 players

[mild thunder]

just delete rbgs entirely tbh

rbg players are barely even real pvpers

[bright stream]

a huge portion of which are cheating and encouraging cheating

[mild thunder]

they're like our retarded cousins

[steel trout]

like 90 % of high cr rbg teams are fucking freaks of humans too)

[bright stream]

I dunno about that, they're all andrew tate energy though

[mild thunder]

now an actually good take would be > delete the current rbg bracket, and introduce a 6v6 objective-based gamemode on smaller maps

[steel trout]

nah a lot of them are deranged freaks

[mild thunder]

i feel like 2s can go as well

2s used to be the training ground for 3s, but shuffle does that instead now

[bright stream]

I was thinking to myself, this weekend I'ma do a lot of unholy cause wars kinda shit, and has inc. buffs on wednesday

[mild thunder]

and 2s has just become an assa rogue fest

[bright stream]

who would have thought that unholy dk rngs lobbies as much as it does

how you kids feeling about healers calling your targets for you at the start of every round lmao?

[mild thunder]

tell them to shut the fuck up and keep me topped

[warped warren]

[steel trout]

i dont even pay attention to what ppl type ngl

[summer tiger]

Whatever it is, needs to have objectives so a noob can feel good about themselves. This game is incredibly fun and there's nothing else like it out there. And it's dying and it will keep dying till blizz puts some actual attention in to it.

[bright stream]

my current fav is shamans raging about their water pool/earth totem and standing in it

[mild thunder]

"game is dying" doomerism is so cringe

[bright stream]

and its like

boss, put it where it should be and we're g

[mild thunder]

wow is the biggest mmo in the genre by far and isnt being outcompeted anytime soon

[bright stream]

if I'm not standing in it its because you put it somewhere stupid instead of where the destro lock is

[mild thunder]

until riot actually releases their mmo, then there's nothing blizz can do anyway

[summer tiger]

That doesn't change jack shit about the state of pvp though.

[steel trout]

leaving earthern wall is not a very good move

[bright stream]

the dota2/ow player in me has big doubts, but Arcane was top

[mild thunder]

fact is, no one is ever going to say "oh, wow pvp looks fun, lets go play it"

[bright stream]

neither is watching the warlock cast chaos bolt at you from 20 yards away

[mild thunder]

people that play games for pvp are going to play pvp games

[old fulcrum]

To be honest . ITS NOT FUN TO PLAY AS A HEALER. Hybryd - yes. Player who play as a healer always sacrifice himself. so DD+DD+Healer is not fair. IMHO🤏

[mild thunder]

not invest hundreds of hours to learn about a niche mmorpg pvp subgame

its just not a realistic expectation

[bright stream]

they cant make it 'fun' in the way that people want

its not compatible with the design of wow

name a single season since you've started playing where healing has been 'fun' and the healers haven't bitched, pissed, and moaned all season

and if you ask one of them, it's always 'when they removed manaburn' etc

which was what, 12 years ago?

[steel trout]

neglected minigame enjoyers 😎

[mild thunder]

watching rdru players heal shuffle looks like the most boring shit in the world

[summer tiger]

Well I literally have not touched PvE my entire life. PvP is the only reason I play this game. And my first experience of it was on a instant max lvl pvp private server.
I play comp games and only comp games. WoW is by far the most fun I've had in a pvp game. And I'm sure allot of others would think so too if they were provided a solid platform to try it on 🤷‍♂️

[bright stream]

wow pve is actually very good, as long as you're doing heroic and then mythic progression

but the guilds that engage in it are....

[mild thunder]

if that's true, you're a massive exception, not a rule

and its a waste of time for blizzard to try and market to people like that

[bright stream]

filled with people working as retail sales managers at 40

[mild thunder]

wow also only appeals to older players

zoomers have negative interest in mmos

[old fulcrum]

But its like a "Hybryd-carry" playstyle. Its not a 100% healer.

[mild thunder]

there's no reason to play it when CoD sequel 4000 is dropping

[bright stream]

deadset, if we had a set of cosmetics exclusive to healing queues

a healing 'set', a healing enchant, and hell, a healing mount

how many dps players do you think would have a healer side hustle?

thats a lot of injected players into the queues

[mild thunder]

not that many

because most of them wouldnt be able to push past 1200 and would give up

[vestal quail]

90% of people I’ve known in WoW only touch pvp if there is an associated PVE reward or the transmog is absolutely fire. Barring the last few weeks of a tier once they have hit all their PVE goals. CE players with big egos don’t like getting roflstomped at 1400cr

[bright stream]

healings not that hard

[mild thunder]

the issue isnt just that dps dont want to heal, its that healing is unnecessary difficult to carry games with

you're almost entirely at the whim of your dps

[summer tiger]

ngl everyone needs to have a healer side hustle, I play resto dru on the side, idk how the fuck you'll know how healing feels like / how to play with a healer proper without ever healing in your life

[bright stream]

all you've got to do to be a 2100 healer is;
-Call the wrong target at the start of the match
-Throw a tantrum when the dps players disagree with you
-Sit 40 yards back so your dps can't move in
-Ignore dispelling roots
-Hold your cooldowns and trinket until the dps dies in the opener, then rage that they walled at 5%
-PvE rotation

[bright stream]

most people have played a long time and have dipped their toes in - I've played a bunch of rsham to 1800-2k for example when the cosmetics are sick

[mild thunder]

ive played like two minutes of MW, but thankfully i have a good healing partner so im pretty familiar with it

[summer tiger]

I couldn't make myself play anything else than rdru for some reason

everything else is boring

[mild thunder]

oh yea, "hot and afk" rdruid is so much more fun

[bright stream]

the only boring healer is hpriest

the others all do something interesting

[mild thunder]

disc and MW are the most fun looking healers by far imo

[bright stream]

depends what you like

[mild thunder]

ive played a bit of disc as well, it was fun to have the aggressive skillset as well

[bright stream]

as a melee/mage player rsham totems, interrupts, roots, all appealing

[mild thunder]

but getting trained into the dirt by any melee ever isnt fun

[summer tiger]

have you ever played rdruid ? hot and afk isn't what I'd describe it as

[bright stream]

its more like

[mild thunder]

no, but i verse it every fucking game, and thats sure what it seems like

[bright stream]

a constant struggle to not be baited into cycloning the dps target instead of healing your partner whos at 30% health

[mild thunder]

rdru is just a bullshit spec, imagine never having to hard cast ever

[summer tiger]

you hot, and you're either vs purge team so you're struggling to heal, or you're living the life trying to think of what sick troll clone you're gonna hit exactly when your dps is pressing his cds on someone

[grand scaffold]

per hour!?

i do 10 pushups in about a minute

then take a 5 min break

then do more

[summer tiger]

but nah rdru just feels like it can do more than others generally, it's kind of the rogue or mage of the healers

[muted surge]

id you said in a day

[steel trout]

the best rdruids to play with is the ones who stand 40 yards away and pve heal 😎

[summer tiger]

zzz

[muted surge]

nice

charge dc :>

[grand scaffold]

nah i meant i workout over the course of a day

maybe i worded it poorly

mb

[grand scaffold]

lemme guess you pressed charge?

[muted surge]

yes

[grand scaffold]

😂

[muted surge]

after i come back

yea no shit

[grand scaffold]

paladins

😂

[steel trout]

why didnt u press parry dude

[muted surge]

can hunters use turtle in stun ?

[steel trout]

no

[muted surge]

maybe is hould stun more smartly then

[placid marlin]

Whats the bleed build burst? Rend > Trinket > CS > ms >roar >avatar > Skull?

[lean burrow]

overpower twice + stun + cs + ms

hunter ded

[muted surge]

but idk

how people hit so hard with ms

i did that and hit for 63 :<

[steel trout]

theres no way thats with all modifiers

[urban skiff]

is that with CS on the target and with avatar?

[muted surge]

yes

[urban skiff]

what's your ilvl?

[muted surge]

418

[steel trout]

and no defensives on the guy?

[muted surge]

he died on opener

so i dont think so

[steel trout]

if u have 2x op stacks, sharpen, avatar, cs and standing in spear

should hit way more than 63k

[scarlet barn]

Do that per rating lost every time

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-saitama-xmxmx-otterpaka-stare-gif-25655187

[muted surge]

with all buffs and 2x my normal hit is 78k against dummy

but dhat doesnt have vers and some shit right

[steel trout]

no armor i think

i just hit 195k without ep

[muted surge]

mhm

[steel trout]

on the dummy

[muted surge]

but my gear is hella scuffedd

[scarlet barn]

Better than rogue RP

[steel trout]

i have 2 set tho so thats extra 10%

[muted surge]

same

[grand scaffold]

bruh ima be dead

[grand scaffold]

imagine playiong rp

[steel trout]

i have no idea why ur hitting 60k on some1 then

[scarlet barn]

Your saving quality is you are not rogue player too

Or are you

[grand scaffold]

lmao

i have a rogue leveled but i dont play it

[azure moss]

why are you using mastery weapon instead of crit?

isnt crit sword better for unhinged build?

[steel trout]

crit is better yes

[muted surge]

its the drake one

[azure moss]

ah

i just dinged my alt war to 70 and now i need to farm 4k conquest

and idk what to do

should i hold the conquest for next week or just buy weapon

[muted surge]

wep just seems so expensive

[azure moss]

i swear im gonna get weapon if i buy it with conquest

[muted surge]

thatss why i got the drake one

until i get it in the vault

[steel trout]

buy weapon get tier in vault

problem fixed 😎

[bright stream]

hopefully soon they'll uncap conq

wouldnt mind fixing my gear on a few toons

[azure moss]

one thing i can confidently say is shuffle on warrior is WAY harder than the other specs ive played

im so dependant on a healer not fucking up

on my survival/ww/feral i can hard carry some lobbies all by myself

[bright stream]

😮

25 minute queue, 1 rating lmao

[vapid ruin]

wait for next patch

or just sim it bro

[pearl prism]

Ive been finding it hard on solo shuffle too as warrior

But the one thing that has made it worth it is meeting my second wife there

She's a big old broad

but she has a gentle heart

We are going on our first Skype date next Tuesday

[tepid ridge]

XD

[bright stream]

changes will hopefully have a big impact, but yeah, warrior takes a lot of games to climb, well arms does, fury you're literally just rng wins and can't climb lmao

[azure moss]

i had a hard time during my placement games and im like getting 60 points even with 5-1

at 1300

at this point on my ww id be 2k already

insane

[shut barn]

what is the fastest way to level

not the right section i guess

[azure moss]

cobalt assembly

but you need a dedicated group for that

[delicate root]

should i use 411 with verse or 418 gloves without verse

[undone pumice]

wtf

[fickle forge]

What kind of 418 glove is in the game without verse? 🤔

[undone pumice]

myfic raid

[delicate root]

so i'm guessing the verse gloves? i just didn't know much ilvl matters

[long ridge]

is the 418 tier

and what stats and what spec r u

[lethal kestrel]

any macro that change shatter / wrecking throw

[long ridge]

yes

/cast [known] shatter; [known] wrecking throw

[grand scaffold]

happens

i once waited 2hrs for 0 rating

btw people on loss streaks appear to have longer ques

[pure hornet]

Stop complain 😂🤗nd have fun

[grand scaffold]

im not complaining

im at 2200 not queing

ima be bored but waiting for ignore pain before i continue to que

[long ridge]

my man

i literally told you like yesterday to wait until tues when you were at 2200

then you played all day anyway and now you're back where you started after going down to what, 1900? lol

[bright stream]

yeah that's why I'm playing dk at the moment, and getting some alts ready to go

[severe prairie]

unholy

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but im back at 2200

so now im relaxing

prob best ive done as arms tbh

[cinder thorn]

Which bracket ss?

[grand scaffold]

yah

[bright stream]

SS do be like that sometimes, lobby rng the game

someones always trying to feed their brains out

[cinder thorn]

Dude what makes me go nuts is sometimes the guy on enemy team plays like a pro

The moment he's on my team he just puts brain in standby mode

Does that happen to you

[bright stream]

constantly

it happens because players are used to playing 1 type of comp

IE, double caster, double melee, or melee/caster

so they have no fucking idea how to play with you, but they know how to play against you

[cinder thorn]

There's more to it, sometimes it happens on double melee too

[bright stream]

classic example; you're playing war - and the mage on your team christian bales to the other side of the map when he needs peels - and you're just stuck by yourself doing nothing while he gets 2v3d

[cinder thorn]

Like yesterday there was a rogue owning in every match

In his match with me he said let's go healer

I went healer and whole match he was trying to 1v2 the other two dps

[lean burrow]

losing to rogue as warrior

[flat dome]

I fucking hate blades edge arena

Place is cancer

[warm portal]

Swear its always the rets and windwalkers doing this. Your team they'll die without pressing a button but on the enemy team they'll global one of your teammates lol

[untold adder]

why is spell reflect so dogshit

only one spell at a time

when did they change it?

[grand scaffold]

like

2020

[fickle forge]

[pure hornet]

Last 300 games ..getting focused like icecream in desert😂

[proven pine]

is solo shuffle rigged or what

two games now I go 6-0 and a lock on my team goes 2-4 but gets more rating

blizz artificially pumping lock rating

[muted surge]

His Rating was just lower than his mmr

[fickle forge]

MMR

[full quiver]

[cinder thorn]

Why do you care about rating so much

Just play and enjoy yourself

All rating and mmr do is make sure you play with roughly people of similar skill and OPness

The only way rating matters is for other people in exactly same spec as you but even then if they go up against favourable match ups and you don't then it won't mean anything

Best thing to do is ignore it and just enjoy yourself

[scarlet barn]

I would argue in some cases it is actually better now than it used to be

[grand scaffold]

because

wow is a hobby and its nice to feel successful in it