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Getting hit for 105 00 when you have 36% versatility gives you the same feelings.
What an exit
i mean
As arm, is it worth to loose the 4p or even 2p of the set ?
i hit 160k mortal strikes lol
Troar is already good
its underrated for sure
in 3s its good)
what ilvl loss is worth for 4 set?
got 411 shoulders, 408 chest, 402 pants and 421 hands from pve
not sure where i should use honor / conq gear
Warbreaker or Blunt instruments?
we back
both good yes, i think tsg gonna be very good next patch
im chillin dawg wbu
im doing great man
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roasted some angry rogue who got 1/6 wins tryna call me trash
4set isn't that huge in pvp
run ur highest ilvl for 2 set
@Wobagger#4071 isn't devoker getting burst nerf on Tuesday
What do you guys say about all the people crying about arms already?
any good macros for those 'Oh shit' moments as arms?
yeah
like im finding i just go down very easily
im not playing right clearly
but feeling a bit paper
dbts/healthsone
healthstone*
how do i beat ret pally in duel?
You donโt lol
nice
is it arms or fury at the moment? not played pvp since week 2 of xpac where fury was OP OP
aems
Frozen devotion isnt the weapon enchant to go to anymore?
i thought sophoric or w/e
in pinned messages, is build 1 or build 2 better? or is it just preference
will he get 2.3 before patch 
i aint waiting till patch
im getting that 2400
im a warrior doing dh level healing
ill take that
leech ftw
So Sophic Devotion over Frozen Devotion?
Well.. now its awkward when I play both.
does arms want the tier set? it seems very good to me
The biggest damage
ndogo whats ur strat in shuffle
do u play warlord/ep every game? hp trinket? do they target u?
they do target me a lot
and i dont usually use ep but it is nice
i dont run blademaster ever
warlord/unhinged
really
i thought u only run blademaster w/ unhinged
nah
when do you use blademaster
oh
as burst
to burst if i have unhinged
i see
nope
never?
what about into locks
usually no
or disc
nah
hm
you use disarm a lot? vs what targets besides war/rogue/hunter?
rly
Oh man, unnerfing uproar. Will be able to use on use trinket with each Troar
u use disarm vs any melee basically huh
just not monks
and not ferals
anything that isnt using a bow or sword of some sort you dont run it
u never run war banner?
ohh
ESPECIALLY INTO SP
banner instead of warbringer ok
i dont like warbringer
in soloshuffle it's meh
the fact that charge itslef doesnt root is wierd
in like 2s and shit it does a lot of dmg
I thought disarm effects feral damage still?
usually storm of destruction
oh i see
B- banner
do you use banner on ur go
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If good team does their go u r already ccd
i use my go right off the bat and with war banner lol
usually they use their go immediately too
nah dont do that
wait for their go
i generally dont use it for the opener
i use cc for that
i save opener for when my team is in serious trouble
banner*
not opener
i see
@grand scaffold do you use the tier set?
alright ty 
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you on NA?
@long ridge using banner on your go can be good
Depends what youโre trying to banner
Arms suffers a lot from being peeled on go so pre banner any peels on you can be really valuable
Prob best use of it actually outside of trying to banner specific things such as traps/rogue cc, etc
i'm on NA yeah
once im done playing solo shuffle
ill duel you and see if anything is going wrong
lemme dm you my btag
thx
weird day for me ๐ฆ i lost almost 500 point don't know what's going on really ๐ซ
mb u need a mental health break bro
bad days happen, take a break.
always tilt/tired/twisted
is it correct that set items in vault don't have vers on it?D:
When not even winning feels good, it's time to call it a night.
Hey yall, I'm not a warrior player, but my friend who wants to get more into PVP is. I was wondering for 2s what do you guys think is a good comp with warrior? Either arms or fury
i main mage, but i feel mage/warrior in 2s is probably not very good
and ive been looking to level an alt anyway
they have set stats no matter if u get it from raid, vault or the catalyst next week
Warrior typically has a healer for 2v2
vers obv then crit/haste
get haste on pieces that u cant get crit
kk so anything you can get crit on take it
is there a more prominant healer to go with them? Or kinda just whatever I like playing the best
pvp gear wise
yep
k ty
also racials, is it really bad if i play undead warr?
how limiting is that in reality
Not the end of the world, but it sucks
unless ur super tryhard pushing for r1 it doesn't rly make a difference
so you can get like 2400 as undead?
Horde Warrior should just roll Orc
yea
why?
sure u can
oh shit really
Yeah
how come?
Rating is deflated as shit atm
inflation hasnt kicked in yet
and all casuals are playing soloshuffle
but 2.4 in solo shuffle is very very doable
ah so its all good people playing 3v3 basically
Yeah
got it
the glad mount looks so nice though :((
i have lock mage and priest as well
dont think any of those are easier?
warrior is looking very good next week
Arms only
ye and more points
Fury is basically eating a bag of dicks lmao
itll be hard no matter what class right now
no kit changes
I'm actually fine if they just pump Fury dps
whats your guys favorite healer to play with in 2s, looking to level an alt to play with my warrior friend
rdruid
Tell the dudu to roll Evoker
Real shit, my dick gets erect in shuffle with an Evoker healer
lol
im at 2200 rn
best ive ever got was 2100
Ah yes, Ignore Skill Issue
hpal not so good
bruh i bet you ignore your cr
what do you do currently defensive wise when getting trained?

Probably lmao
run a lot
make sure you dont line your healer
Yeah, Warrior runs like the feds are after you
how are you cycling defensive cds i guess i mean
stay defensive stance aside from bursting
parry during BIG cd's
rally opener generally
And ofc, don't play Fury
warbanner here and there
kk
disarm every melee go
pvp talents you go sharpen blade, banner and the bladestorm one?
eh
or disarm for melee
sharpen always, banner/disarm/warbringer
Death Sentence for caster comps?
hell nah
then i run storm of destruction vs non pet classes
or warbringer vs pet classes
btw
if you dying against demo or a dk
Unreal how you can fuck up dh with warbringer
bladestorm and spread deep wounds
warbringer for the real pump
it heals for a chunk
shit does biiig dam
menace what cr are you at big man
2.4
holy shit
bro i got 2253 so 3 away from solo shuffle peak
and qued again
to lose 40
too scared to que now
but im atleast not at 1950 like yesterday
are you guys focus macroing everything?
still 250 cr gain
or doing like arena 123
i dont have any macros
i just use focus
dont use binds
focus stormbolt,kick, fear
I have keybindings for Focus Arena 1/2/3 and then use Focus macros
just be fast with pressing tab
and clicking gladius
thats what i do
but every other player will tell you use macros
i think its more efficient to get used to focus macros
what do you lot bind them to?
i have shift 1 2 3 for target and f1 f2 f3 for focus
focus storm bolt and pummel and charge
prob alt modifiers
i actually use F1 etc for spells already
binds are just preference
maybe ill use the ones near the end for focus setting
yah
like F6 F7 F8
Are you LeBron james
do you have gladius?
ye
i click on gladius to target things
tbf thats probably easy
same
these are my binds in case you need ideas
i am a mongo
It's a really slow option. Like specially vs classes like druid that Re stealth try to avoid clicking gladius
you are right
i just dont like to have more than 38 binds
actually i COULD manage the binds
but keeping track of which player is what bind
is hard
That comes with time
i have an addon that just shows 1 2 3 over their nameplates
Why do you have a separation for Shattering/Wrecking rather than macro for both in one?
because
when i make on of those macros
it doesnt show the cd of both in the tooltip
only works for one
if you have one that solves the problem lemme know
ill use it rn
I'm away from my comp atm, but I have one that shows CD
Yeah
it will show each cd cooldown?
thats insane
dm it to me later
i gtg watch a tv show
yeah i know
lmao PvP quests with warmode off are alot more fun than pvp quests with warmode on
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Wrecking Throw] Wrecking Throw; Shattering Throw
Fkers with no pvp gear get straight slapped
works for me
Did you like the plater Profile btw? :D
no try hard teams
Yeah, beating the shit outta pve geared shitters is fucking based as shit
glad it helped
dang bro i forgot about it
lemme go copy it rn
can you resend me the class icons above each teammates head again
It would be cool if it was just guilds and people who came together naturally
Yeah it really is just a waste of time rn. Itโs a pity, itโd be cool if it wasnโt toxic / had better rewards
wpvp is baller
Depends on your server
On mine if you kill one idiot they form a raid group from other servers to spite you, even for quests that canโt be done in a group higher than 5
WPvP toxic?? ๐ค
Our best bet on my server is usually only the pvp zones
It already gives pretty decent gear rn though
For WQs
Better than you could ever achieve in BFA and SL
Hard agree
Depends. Itโs pretty good for most people, it just doesnโt do much for those of us who like to sweatily gear
For higher end stuff set pieces are infinitely better, you donโt get all the stats you want depending on your spec/class
(Conquest has more stat options)
So itโs more or less just a middle ground before set/conquest
That'd be implying min/max for WPvP is important
And it really ain't
You could run around and slay in honor gear really
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WPvP is casual like that
I do go around slapping, but I still care about gearing
Then I don't see your issue
Do WPvP, gather scraps of conq for like 4 pieces, use the catalyst and get your tiers
Fair enough. Thatโs what I do rn but to be real I donโt super enjoy having to pause to do 2s or the weeklies for conquest as I find them pretty lukewarm. Would rather do WPVP, and have enough doing it that I can get decent fights there instead of having to get them in an arena
Thatโs probably a naive af dream though
is gearing even bad for WPVP? at this point you should have a near full set of the 423 WPVP pieces if you've done them every week
or 421 whatever they are
Donโt know how it is elsewhere. I typically try to minmax because we have raid groups form up on my server. TLDR nah you donโt need to get conquest if youโre not trying to be sweaty for wpvp, youโd function ok, I just prefer to be sweaty.
And the gearing can be ok. Depends on spec/class. Armor pieces are hard locked to certain stats with no alternatives aside from the cloak I think.
And weapon***
has there ever been wPVP gear in WoW before? like anything actually comparable to conq like there is now
wish wpvp in wow was better but since forever it seems like it's either zergfests or stomping noobs, actual engaging skill-based pvp seems to just not happen
Yeah, basically. And no, there hasnโt ever been gear even somewhat close.
I wpvped a shit ton at the start of the expansion but Iโve sort of simmered down as itโs mostly raid groups/fucking about now as thereโs no real reason for any serious players to do it
Pretty sure serious pvpers only touched it at the start, or in the current time to gear someone without pvp gear rapidly vs spending time in battlegrounds. If you have lads to help slam every WQ as fast as possible and then call it quits for the day, itโs pretty easy and quick gear.
So rn itโs usually stomping noobs / under geared players or itโs just raids running around killing one another just because
That's just what WPvP is, since always
It's about numbers
If you want small fights, you gotta gank or duel in front your faction city
Ive never Seen anyone there
Are there still alpha lifters in the chat?
Good deadlift session, blood sacrifice to the lifting/warrior gods before tonight.


jButtonFlash
As a new arms player what build should i run? Is build 1 in the pins still viable?
thanks!
go spear build
i use bodywheight
i ccant afford a gym membership XD
Whatever works brother!
awc is definitely more fun to watch now than during any of the rmp meta shit days over the last 4 years
Is there a section for helpfull macro's etc?
What you looking for bud?
Yea q up
or wait and avoid depression
I was just wondering, after always playing healer I decided to roll a dps. I thought it made sense to have like a section of common macro's. Like changing stance, shield block, bursts etc
Ahh gotcha yea there should be a paste bin somewhere
But tge only fancy macros most of us use are tied to charge and intervene
Everything else is pretty simple bare bones, like focus cc macros
Or 123 cc
Haha yeah I figured. I also wondered if people play with sound on (if thats 'mandatory' or not)
If you use 123 instead of focus
Yeah im not a fan of the 123/focus macro's, due to the insane amount of keybinds already haha
#showtooltip
/cast Mortal Strike
/cast Ignore Pain
like for real
The meme is returning
and warlock have spell reflect like us in bfa :kappa:
nah use overpower and ignore pain
Are many people using shield block on enemy's burst? Just swap into gearset, activate, swap out?
it will ALWAYS line up
Almost noone
Ever
you will never use ignore pain alone on one key ? or its just to stack up spell ?
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap
/cast Ignore Pain
It feels kinda strong, 6secs block. Thats like bubble for melee
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/cast charge /cast harmstring /cast ignore pain....jokinn realy put it on separate bind
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is ignore pain off the gcd?
@coral thistle #showtooltip Charge
/cast [@mouseover, help, exists] Intervene
/cast [exists, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring
/startattack
rmp isnt as bad to watch as the mage locks were q_q
#showtooltip
/cast Mortal Strike
/cast Ignore Pain
/cancelaura Ignore Pain
it is, but it was a joke
#showtooltip Charge
/cast [@focus] Charge
/cast [@focus] Pummel
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/cast [@arenapet1,exists,nodead] Taunt
/cast [@arenapet2,exists,nodead] Taunt
/cast [@arenapet3,exists,nodead] Taunt
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/startattack
/cast Mortal Strike
/target regenerating
those are the 3 big ones i use
with a focus stomrbolt macro as well
and [@party1] intervene
and party 2
/cast charge
/use crimson aspirant's medallion
/cast swift spectral tiger
/cast windows + L
Nice thanks,
that might actually work
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring
/cast Die by the sword
/cast ignorepain
/cast Rallying cry
/cast impending victory
Real one
whats comanding shout
-_-
So you guys don't have macro's for burst?
i do actually
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
i have avatar, orc racial and trinkets in 1 button yea
lemme link it to you
/showtooltip Warbreaker
/cast Warbreaker
/use Crimson Gladiator's Badge of Ferocity
/cast Avatar
#showtooltip deez nuts
/cast charge
/use crimson aspirant's medallion
/cast swift spectral tiger
/cast windows + L
/cancelaura avatar
/cast pummel
if u want to use that put warbreaker at the bottom
its fine
Na its popping them all 3 like this
theres no way this still works
I bet half the people here dont use arena 1 2 3 macro but wanna go full swifty macro...how many binds can u use?
it does
i dont use 123, focus for offensive stuff
i do party 1/2 intervene tho
and the mouseover
anyways use my macro
I hate rogues
it will win games in the opener
"Skill bro"
windows+L legit ddos's the enemy
Reality 1 button castsequence macro
does arms have ignore pain back yet
10.0.5
few days or weeks ?
you can try it on ptr by pressing window+L in arena
4 days
teusday
right on
what is the utility of taunting pet here ? when you are morph/frozen/blind ?
Will the ignore pain change a lot?
yes but thats not the only change
fuck yeah
its baller
bro trust me
press windows+L and you can try it on the ptr rn
Like no1 knows what windows + L does lol
everybody does
it downloads ptr
is it something around 60k absorb on ptr?
yeah
windows+L
check it rn
so basical 40k with dampening
maybe depends on the level
Doesn't get affected by damp iirc
If I recall correctly
different kind of absorb?
Yea, its also a really old macro
Like most shields
I dont even know if taunting still works like it used too
oh ok
expect some mortal strike nerfs once everyone rerolls to warrior again
nah
it wouldve been nerfed by now
cocoon gets lowered by dampening same as dics shileds...but not by mortal strike
ms top end damage is already pretty toxic
itโs gonna be even more toxic when warrior becomes tankier
Very toxic, but feels so good
okok ty !
wouldve been nerfed by now
Ya itโs hilarious
I dont realy feel armss damage op comparing to other classes...only if u let him sweep too much
yah
Arms isnโt gonna out pve dh or dk but u just sit there knowing u can just yolo 160k mortal strike people whenever u want
finishing power is just as good as doing sustained 40k dps
Mans said most
no
you need cd's for that
big cd's
and i havent hit a 160k mortal strike
#old execute animation
like ever
i hate condemn
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
its so clunky
condemn looks too cool
when i see dmg of feral i dont feel ms hit that much x)
makes me feel like i have a lightsaber
Iโve hit 200k mortal strikes on clothies so kekw
what cr is that
the cr doesnโt matter that just shouldnโt ever be possible
cr doesnt reduce damage taken...gear does
Hate it when my 500 cr warrior gets one shot 
u can go full 424 with 500 cr
you can get 150k-160k pretty consistently in your cooldowns
Not if everyone is 424
That's just equality
u can get it even without arena
bruh im at 421
just do pvp quests and bgs
you can double overpower sharpen with every cd and absolutely blast people
me 422 got 120k on honor gear warrior
but on arena I hardly see mortals for more than 80k into plate
has anyone successfully been able to turn off lock/dk pets? im using plater and everything i can find is off
Iโve hit around 100k into Dks
dude
there is no way
you hitting 160k with that
you need to be running hurricane and have 2x ep
or some shit
160k into low armor is absolutely possible with that
sounds about right
I legit never play hurricane
I know lmao
sudden death doesnt prock as often as on SL
playing executioners prec legit can make you murder people
Absolutely disgusting top end damage
guess doesnt matter with that damage
what
it feels like its 40x more
ide say thats ballance
if ur ep you can get well above 100k into plate
im just saying
im not hitting higher than 120k on cloth
its never happened
and thats with 2x ep 2x op and sharpen
ye its ok, I am ok with damage profile in most cases...got troubles only with dks I guess...cant get more than 20k executes when that udk has -15% low hp passive
Then somethings wrong with ur build idk
glad ferals die much easier
because when I play ep I just blast people
and will die even faster on reset
for how much
bruh what ilvl are these people
I just linked screenshots
as long as we agree those numbers should never happen
Then we agree
Top end damage shouldnโt be that high
yes
That shouldnโt ever happen either
Iโm saying nobody should be doing those numbers to anyone
Itโs toxic
bruh there aint no way 160k is real
just some minor nerfs might be needed
when we get ip
I mean Iโm telling u itโs real
200k on destro is ok i guess
I can log on right now and find some geared mage and hit him for 160k and show u lmao
with all that mobility cc and absorbs
it was demo
steroids?
bro Iโm telling u
It happens a lot haha
150k mortal strikes are just expected from warriors in their cds
If theyโre ep
Non ep is usually 130k peak
dude you guys are somehow hacking or something
I unhinged clothies for 130k sometimes
double overpower sharpen and sharpened blades talent will make you crit very hard in your cds
Especially in spear crit dam bonus
160k is with ep
im only 412 and have hit for 140k mortal
160k+ is ep
and 130k execute
i mean
shit just has to proc correctly
it is
i wont lie
its meant to 1 shot ppl at certain times
w the enchants on my weapons
when those procs
no one survives
nah
nah ik what a wall is just swap tgt
Iโll log on rn and do it to someone in a duel and just link another ss lol
or people are walling his offensive cds like they should
did you wait to get 2x ep?
thats 2x op/ep/sharpen in a spear?
yes
a crit in a staged duel when ure waiting for everything to align is irrelevant tho
you said a 150k+ ms happens a lot
which is not true
it does happen
idk man
not often
literally havent seen one, from me or any of the warriors in my games
i mean me and the warriors i talk to on my list all have done it and seen it so
i absolutely dont mean this as flame, but at what mmr has this happened for you
๐คจ
im at 2200
and it doesnt happen
ill legit wait for ppl to wall my partners damage
and just try to 1 shot them
when thr wall ends
fr
is there a weak aura for op/ep?
ayo bev
i wont argue with you since you one of the only people that havent roasted me
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neither have i.....
thats true
hru btw
nice
some pretty easy
what cr is your main at?
current progress 
felt like memeing the smf
auto attacks and frozen devo are most of the dam kek
you die if something looks at you though
but are you Dagger SMF?
but mah main stat
fuck your main stat, you can aim for max swing speed
more swings means more Frozen Devotion procs
amen
bro if you ran
super haste
with full frenzy stacks
hold on ima look into this
why i want to push a rogue at 1K8
one benefit of smf is you never have to take enduring rage because autos keep you enraged the whole time anyway 
when the 2k+ warrior begins to research the meme
He's starting to believe
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big angery momento
He knos da wae my bruddas
run dancing blades
yah i do
bruh that build sounds crazy
if you have spare honor just get some shitty Honor daggers and go hit the dummy for a bit
good shout
they rly want to stop the mongoloid One tape some1 in solo
feelsgood
i hope some healer getting back to soloQ
less stressful for them
less damage for everyone more heal
sounds good
fury buff is like getting back to the fury first patch before nerf
so also S tier
I M O
lets ask @elfin surge
do u guys take blademaster or warlords torment for arms?
Mud is on the verge of mental breakdown with all the arms/fury parkour
lmao
this is why mortal strike wont be nerfed
10.0.5 secret patch notes
Gladiator Stance is back
wtf is that awc
where i can find furry pvp guide?
fury*
The Hunter discord is that way
hum?
excuse me
furry is druid discord
hunter is animal lovers
oh lol kkkkk

My brother in Christ, they are both played by zoophiles, did it matter which one I said?
One is in a fursuit so yes
Itโs an escalated level of sin worth clarifying
You win this round
Thatโs cute but not true
Hunter main detected
do you guys warbreaker and immediately avatar, or do you warbreaker and avatar right before reck falls off?
Huh???
yo complete pvp novice here - should i do arms or fury for pvp?
yes
Just reinstalled d2
Enjoying it again
play whatever you enjoy :>
but arms seems stronger
I want to swap to fury so bad
just to flex on these arms elitests
"i only lost cause my team is dogs shit!1!" I cna hear it now
Lmfao
@copper hare you right
This is the most entertaining awc ever
Everyone popping everything immediately
And all hell breaks loose at all times
Love to see it
But like
Its entertaining
Like this is way better to watch then 20+ minute rmp mirrors
2-3 min games free for all brawls
i enjoy when games are a bit more about skill and setup
To play yea i agree
this is just throwing everything in the opener in hopes of getting every cc faster than the nemey
To watch? Miserable
it doesn't look fun XD
Thats whats entertaining
Ping ponging health high adrenaline crazy shit
Vs ok rmp go, next rmp go, 3rd rmp go ... 90% dampening kill
i enjoyed some tsg, thug, even double caster was more fun lmao
KEKW
smf bleed fury
OR
one that might be good
onslaught fury
with ravager and spear
I was thinking this with no capstone lol
Onslaught fury with annihilation and enduring rage
its about 2.7% more sta, 2.7% less primary stat, wonโt be very impactful
You breaking big shields with wrecking throw?
So you have like 8 second enrage
heard yall like 20% armor
Generally, yes, but I'm mostly concerned with warriors pushing my shit in as a priest
War rogue and priest at 70 yes
Spiky damages hard to heal
Only way I've figured out is blow everything and then bait a shadow kick
Feral/Arms is a healing nightmare btw
holy crap. smf with a dagger offhand
Its alright feral mains are unique to put it mildly
You can just say autistic
Lmfao
Not even that
Go into the druid discord and read it for a bit
I love em but its not for everyone
Feral is still going to be very, very strong
Idk why people think itโs going to be unplayable
my execute crit for 18k