pvp

[amber harness]

your biggest oneshot potential defo happens in spear togeterh with sks specced into bleed

[steel trout]

same as the picture i sent

[barren vale]

I need some opinions on gearing order on a new character. So I bought the 421 Belt/Wrists/Cloak with trophies. Filling out other spots with honor/token gear for now. I'm buying cq weapon first. I'm thinking I should buy pieces that can be made into tier first, is that the play? I want to do Legs and Shoulders/Gloves since I can get the 421 chest with crit for trophies next week. And get a neck to socket for more stats. What do we think?

[amber harness]

impossible to get bigger burst

[teal light]

After looking at the PTR talents I do not think bleed spec is going to be the route that and you are not maximizing the bleed spec...honestly selecting talents that do not work great together...

[austere niche]

Is it worth using sharpen blade essentially on cd or better to save it for opportune moments?

[amber harness]

particularyl what?

[teal light]

This more what I am looking at because it stacks better...

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVUUVEFQUFQlhEQUBROVVVRUBUBVCZFEBCREDgwihg5sUhXAB

[amber harness]

yeah just more op/execute

[teal light]

If you go bleeds you should be going Thunderous Roar route...

[steel trout]

neck is good, eitherway ull be fine

[amber harness]

no?

[steel trout]

remember u can only make 1 tier a week

[amber harness]

really not

[teal light]

Rend is getting nerfed

[amber harness]

what

[teal light]

Yeah part of the point

[amber harness]

where

cant see it in 10.0.5 notes

[teal light]

It has already happened

Reason why I and many others are no longer specced into rend

[amber harness]

idk still does a lot

If I delete 50% of a mw which got 360k health by only pressing CS and SKS

u cant tell me its garbage

[late nacelle]

Dont drink energy drinks

[amber harness]

10.0.5 sks even gettign buffed 30%

[late nacelle]

U will get heart palpatations

[teal light]

It is also a very different stat priority going bleed versus spear avatar...bleed is haste>mast where as spear avatar is crit>mast

[amber harness]

na bleed is haste crit

ok depends

generally id say fuck mastery

[teal light]

I will say Bleed is more consistent damage

[late nacelle]

Consistent dmg is useless unless u going deep damp

Just full burst

[amber harness]

I'll just try it, but i think oneshot potential cant be higher than with sks build

[barren vale]

That's just when I see you ❤️

[amber harness]

and you dont want roar with that

spear provides more dmg for your sks

[teal light]

so mastery increases all of your bleeds and if you are already taking Bloodletting you are already gaining 5% crit to bleeds as it is...

[amber harness]

not all your bleeds

[late nacelle]

Thats special crit do

Transcends stat soft cap

[amber harness]

mastery buffs all your dmg even MS

its doing nothing more or less for rend than for MS

[teal light]

true and that along with CS is how you are apply deep wounds

[late nacelle]

Gonna have to say that mastery scales super bad

[amber harness]

your deep wounds tick more often with haste

[late nacelle]

Its worse version of vers basically

[amber harness]

your bleeds crit more often with crit... nothing speaks for mastery

[barren vale]

Mastery has a high floor to start

[amber harness]

its just not scaling well enough

[teal light]

yes which is why bleed is haste is number one behind versa

[amber harness]

we will see but I dont think op and EP are reliable enough

[teal light]

Your mastery also scales with the more versa you have...Bloodletting gives you fair amount of crit for those big bleed numbers

[amber harness]

you cant do a reliable 120k+ hit with MS if youre not proccing the execute for your EP

if youre doing a setup and wanna burst sks is insane

[teal light]

Same would go for building to increase your MS and Exe on spear and CS

[amber harness]

the MS and exe cant be increased?

the only thing you are doing

is dropping my bleed stuff and speccing useless overpower

which helps nothin during burst but only general dps

its the weakest global you could press during your spear

[teal light]

come 10.0.5 they increase eachother by a lot especially when going EP and Fatality

[steel trout]

op 25 % cahnce to reset ur ms

[amber harness]

EP and fatality stay the same you just have better pathing fro stuff

[steel trout]

taking dn making it 10x easier to stack 2x buff

[amber harness]

during my killshot I dont want chances to do smth

[steel trout]

dn hits through evasion/blur

[barren vale]

I hit a 105k MS last night with basically no gear and I won't lie to you, it felt amazing.

[steel trout]

overpower is not useless

[teal light]

With the changes you can take both in 10.0.5 where as now you cannot unless you sacrifice vital points elsewhere to get them which is why currently people don't

[amber harness]

its only helps you once its below 35-30% already

how do you get there best? with something else

[steel trout]

ppl will play sks 100%

in 10.0.5

[teal light]

We are not saying OP useless.

[steel trout]

but not full commit to bleed build

[steel trout]

?

"specing useless overpower"

that is saying OP is useless

[teal light]

The one benefit I do like about bleed is if you go Bloodsurge for more IP use.

[steel trout]

eitherway, its all theory and we will see how it plays out in practice, but from what ive seen most top rated warriors who have made their predicted build for 10.0.5 do not fully commit to bleed and ignore op

[teal light]

Try EP stacking with OP stacking into a MS...it is absolutely huge damage. When you hit over 200k MS it rocks people especially on either a Spear or CS push.

add Fatality to it and adds more damage in the finish

I personally like playing with WW, Ret, or Ele...with the added burst pressure from the EP, OP, and Fatality most people are not going to handle the burst of several back to back 100k-200k hits coming from those classes and the warrior.

[cosmic rover]

arms 2 set or 4 set?

[teal light]

Bleed 4 set...not bleed 2 set

[steel trout]

both

[cosmic rover]

sounds good

[steel trout]

4 set is good overall

[teal light]

It is for bleed spec

[cosmic rover]

I'm coming from PvE at the moment so

[steel trout]

it is for any spec

[cosmic rover]

Don't want to sacrifice more Ilvl than I need to

[steel trout]

prob not worth with normal pieces but im using 1 pvp piece 3 hc pieces

is good

[teal light]

The amount of haste on the 4 set is not optimal for non-bleed. Rather take more crit pieces.

[steel trout]

haste is still good

[teal light]

If you can baseline gain half that amount of crit all the time I would rather for non bleed.

Especially when rooted a lot when you are not proccing it as often

I'll probably play around with the 4 set a bit but so far not a fan when facing mages, druids, and hunters.

[amber harness]

yeah who needs 10% dmg anyways

actually more

[hidden dagger]

How do yall deal with warlocks? I always have trouble with casters and they are the worst!

[teal light]

Wrecking throw and CC chains.

Interrupt and Spell reflect Chaos Bolt, Unstable Affliction, Soul Rot, and Hand of Gul'dan.

[turbid ember]

I've lost to an affliction lock that literally (actual literal) turreted me down in 2s. Granted I did forget to change my pvp talents, but...it was an experience

He did not move from his spot the entire game

[hidden dagger]

Wrecking throw on what? Should I take the pvp talent with it?

[steel trout]

dark pact

[coral axle]

Depends on the rest of the enemy team but yeah if you can, wrecking throw with the pvp talent will instantly break dark pact

[hidden dagger]

Yeah ive had that happen with demo locks, I felt like a wet noodle against a rock wall

[coral axle]

The only other defensive they have is their wall

[turbid ember]

Is there a way to make shields on enemies reflect how much shield they have? When someone is on full life they have like a sliver of shield but takes more damage than what it looks like it would

[teal light]

Wrecking Throw the shields

[coral axle]

I guess in 2s they might play voidwalker instead of kick pet which gives them last stand

[teal light]

Hand of Gul'dan is what is going to proc even more pets for Demo.

Parry melee pets when getting low for health back.

personally have thought about taking pvp talent for more damage on shields but have not played much with it. If you crit the wrecking through with the pvp talent could almost deplete the shield.

[silk flicker]

hops into arena match after having just switching to arms
realises I've not gone over the new keybinds or setup
PANIC

the damage is beautiful

the healthbar being held together by duct tape and dreams - not so much

[coral axle]

Next Tuesday it gets an extra ~90k every 11 seconds slapped on top, should help

[barren vale]

Can anyone explain to me how to use intervene in any situation other than having DBTS up?

[warm portal]

Mobility
Can eat physical based kicks with it
Splitting some extreme damage is often better than it all being on 1 person

[modest rapids]

Intervene a healer when you predict a CC like stun about to hit him. You can intervene saps and shit like that too. When someone from your team is being trained and they need a defensive you can intervene them if youre healthy enough and stay within 10y.

You can use it to escape fist of fury.

etc

[barren vale]

I guess if they are getting trained what prevents me from dying when I take that train on myself with my intervening, except I have none of the heals?

[modest rapids]

Its spreads the pressure and you can always get out of range if youre dying

it only lasts 6s

[barren vale]

I mean people die in 2-3s in shuffle all the time. I guess how do I avoid getting deleted by doing it?

[modest rapids]

If your healer is 30% and you are 90%, you intervene, the likelihood of you dying instead of your healer if you didnt invervene is low

[barren vale]

Are those spots where the damage is really high where I must have a defensive ready if I'm going to intervene?

Or it's using my healthbar as a resource?

Is my body the defensive?

Instant 400k shield

[modest rapids]

Pretty much

[quasi lotus]

If you intervene kick or kidney or something during that go

your healer can actually heal you both

[modest rapids]

mostly try to aim to absorb CC with it

[rancid granite]

any go-to intervene macro?

[barren vale]

And eating the CC is more a predictive thing right?

As in I need to anticipate and pre-intervene

Or they eat one and I intervene the followup?

[torpid roost]

Intervene @focus and then focus my healer is great, but, only use it in twos, I just manually target it like an ape in 3s

[quasi lotus]

same thing in 3s but you can party1 party2

[modest rapids]

Theres also the macro that puts charge and intervene on same button

[quasi lotus]

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@tardy jayuseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

oof sorry whoever Mo is

[rancid granite]

any way to make it clickable on portrait?

seems to be character only :P

[warm portal]

If you just press intervene with no modifiers at all and you are not already targeting a friendly itll have you click on a frame/portrait

[rancid granite]

i see i see

good advice here fellas

love this discord

[warm portal]

I personally prefer direct targets for it like
[target=party1] and [target=party2]

[modest rapids]

a lot of the time intervening targets target works well

[quasi lotus]

Just make a party1 macro. That way 2s is covered and you have party1 in shuffle/3s

Party2 get fucked

[coral axle]

i've been lurking in like 5 different class discords this xpack and warrior is easily the best

[warm portal]

Lmao yeah fuck that guy

[torpid roost]

We're dickheads but usually we're helpful dickheads

[coral axle]

yeah thats the difference, here everybody is like "lmao so stupid, heres what you do instead"

[quasi lotus]

Dont intervene ret wings btw

Errybody will die

[rancid granite]

yeah funny enough the paladin one requires a discord phone # confirmation i was like na lmao

[coral axle]

fucking pally players

[torpid roost]

I don't know why they don't just use the license plates on their wheelchairs

[barren vale]

As a DK main, same.

[torpid roost]

Kek

Warrior rogue 4life

[warm portal]

Rogue???

[torpid roost]

Warrior is first, but, yes

[grand scaffold]

can yall wish me some luck

ima go try to get my rating back

[barren vale]

I basically just play plate melee

[barren vale]

Get it, son.

[grand scaffold]

😄

[rancid granite]

i deleted my rogue and alts

instead of sucking on all chars i can suck a little less on just 1

[mental kindle]

🤣

[elfin surge]

We Are Warrior.

[grand scaffold]

mud can you send me your build?

[elfin surge]

its the standard ms build lol

idk im at work rn

[grand scaffold]

what do you work as?

[rancid granite]

need a baseball bat transmog for you mud

[grand scaffold]

kinda thought you were a full time streamer

[elfin surge]

coal mine

[urban skiff]

does base item matter for catalyst when it's pvp gear?

Like does it matter if I buy haste or mastery chest?

[silk flicker]

each catalyst item has set stats

[urban skiff]

hopefully not the same as the pve counterparts

hat doesn't have vers

[grand scaffold]

seriously?

[spare rover]

4set pumps, free 2.4 in solo

[lucid walrus]

[late nacelle]

Whats wrong with coal mine

U get paid well

And u only shorten life with 10-15 years

[white ridge]

does shattering throw work on turtle

[lucid walrus]

nah

[coral axle]

could be, my buddy works in a gold mine, shits a great gig

you literally live at the mine for a month or two, then you get to go home and do nothing for 2-4 weeks

but you get paid like u worked full time the whole time

[grand scaffold]

shit thats awesome

[coral axle]

you'll probably get crushed by heavy machinery eventually, but otherwise its sweet

[elfin surge]

im a cnc machinist at a factory

coal miner was a joke

[flat dome]

Consensual non-consent?

[grand scaffold]

was hoping so

[grand scaffold]

thats cool man

[coral axle]

in the US there are entry-level positions in mines that pay 60k+ and dont require college degrees

good gig for real for americans too poor/stupid for college

[pure hornet]

Guyz. Need help. Why cant i get the primal gladiator scaled armor

The black one? In stormshield they give a different one

[lucid walrus]

this one?

[pure hornet]

Yes

[lucid walrus]

alliance has a brighter version

[pure hornet]

Fjkkk its crap. Horde has better. Colour

So unfair

Ffs

[short glacier]

Is dark iron that good?

[elfin surge]

cuz horde is better

[grand scaffold]

YAAAAAY

im not a sub 2100 scrub like i thought i was

;D

[coral axle]

hell yeah brother

[grand scaffold]

should i keep playing?

[barren vale]

All tier is the same across all content. A PvP chest piece with tier on it will have the same stats as M+ or Raid tier.

[grand scaffold]

should i keep playing?

[warm portal]

Always que up again when you're climbing

Gotta ride the high

[grand scaffold]

aight

[coral axle]

yeah keep going if ur playing well

[burnt hull]

LOL my first thought too

[grand scaffold]

that round i was playing like a king my guy

was carrying an evoker

that thought focusing a dps doesnt stop dmg

[burnt hull]

i will be the first human in history to have chimps play warrior in pvp mark my words friends

[coral axle]

you could probably teach a chimp to play fury

[grand scaffold]

where are you gonna get the chimps from

matter of fact

hmu

[burnt hull]

i am a primatologist

[grand scaffold]

i actually live in africa

[coral axle]

are there a lot of chimps in africa?

[burnt hull]

yes

[grand scaffold]

fuck yeah

and baboons

[burnt hull]

in the congo

[coral axle]

word sick

[grand scaffold]

im in east africa

one time

i went to this 5 star hotel

[burnt hull]

gorillas and bonobos are also found there

[grand scaffold]

this baboon broke the window

and stole my toothpaste

can you imagine?

[coral axle]

LOL

[burnt hull]

LMFAO

[grand scaffold]

idk wtf it even needed it for

i had to use my friends toothpaste

and there was a mesh on the window

idk how it broke it

lmaop

like i walk back

see my toothpaste isnt there

look at the tree

a baboon has my toothpaste

[coral axle]

"no bro I didnt forget my toothpaste I swear a baboon stole it bro please believe me"

[burnt hull]

based dental hygiene baboon

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[flat dome]

Least it wasn't a chimp

[burnt hull]

chimps dont really fuck with humans historically

even though they can easily murder us

[flat dome]

Full grown chimps are actually scary as fuck

[burnt hull]

the canines of chimps are terrifying

easily rip a human apart

[spice moth]

meirl^

[burnt hull]

WARRIOR STRONG TOGETHER

[grand scaffold]

forget a chimp man

baboons are scary af

they scratch you

bam insta hepatitis

like no doubt

and baboons are in BIIIIIIIIG groups too

[half aurora]

Does anyone know a place that has every ms effect and their strength in pvp?

I have alts but even the pvp dummy doesn’t show the pvp modified heal reduction.

[flat dome]

I thought mandrills were the scary of the two

[grand scaffold]

tbh idk what that is im just a regular guy

but baboons are really scary

obviously you dont run away from them

but if you aggrivate them

[flat dome]

Mandrills are the ones with red and blue faces

[grand scaffold]

its game over

[visual hedge]

Cs on opener to start pressure or soften them up and use it as a closer

[flat dome]

Baboon on human is live action roleplay of warrior on healer in SS

[warm portal]

The healer lasts a lot longer tho

[burnt hull]

[undone pumice]

you laugh at this

but a babooon would kill most people in a matter of 20 seconds

[coral axle]

I didn't even know that MS effects had seperate pvp modifiers, do you know which ones are nerfed?

Always assumed they were purely for pvp so they didn't have a seperate mod

[sweet sluice]

as arms should i be wearing tier in pvp?

[coral axle]

2 set at the very least yeah

Gotta imagine the 4 set is worth it if you have pvp tier

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=8680/wound-poison wound poison has a 50% pvp mod

Why tf don't they just nerf the skill, what healing is there to reduce in pve

[grand scaffold]

come on bois

wish me luck

[coral axle]

🙏

[grand scaffold]

much appreciated 😄

[burnt hull]

is shattering throw good situationally

i feel like i wanna take it more but i dont usually get a ton of use out of it

[grand scaffold]

when you are focusing a ret

or there is an hpal

its nice

or when focusing a mage

aside from that

nope

wrecking throw only into locks

[coral axle]

You can also cheese mistweavers with wrecking throw and the pvp talent

[burnt hull]

is there a reason warrior has less hp than warlock

[coral axle]

If it crits you can blow up their whole bubble

Everybody has less hp than locks

[spice moth]

my reaction time is so bad against mages they end up healing like 50% before i get shattering throw off lmao

[grand scaffold]

yeah

we arent a caster

warlocks have to stand still and cast a lot

which is why they are tanky

[burnt hull]

wow actual good reason

first time ive heard something other than "they just do lol"

[coral axle]

Even then locks cannot survive having two melee on them right now, if they try and face tank two people they will die insta

[sage raptor]

Because blizz made it that way

[grand scaffold]

👍

its quite justified when you think about it

you can interupt locks dmg

and stop them from using defensives in the process

you cant interupt a warrior to stop parry

[burnt hull]

as much as i wanna say "they are wearing literal dresses why do they have more health than me in full metal" this actually makes a lot more sense

[grand scaffold]

yah

like mage can live

but not because they are tanky

they can kite

lock cant kite THAT hard

mage can tho

especially arcane and frost

hunter can run all day

also cant be interupted

so they are squishy

when they dont kite

[burnt hull]

im leveling a druid rn tryna go resto

do people play rated bgs? or am i more likely to get a normal bg queue

[flat dome]

Arcane mages make me wanna kms sometimes

[half aurora]

Yeah, I know wound has a 50% modified. This is the mortal wounds from arms (and hunter pets I think?)

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=115804/mortal-wounds#triggered-by

DH MS is also -50% so only 25%. Was checking wrong spell before.

[coral axle]

As a healer you can do anything you want in pvp, every single mode needs more healers right now

[sour folio]

Quicky, How high a prio is Execute? over MS if you have no stacks? or

[coral axle]

Do regular bgs to get honor gear or for a warm up, and do rbgs to get rating and conquest

[burnt hull]

are rbgs popular?

[thick reef]

they are ok if u can win

[coral axle]

Yeah popular enough, queue pops sub 2000 rating are instant

[grand scaffold]

keep ms effect up

otherwise

[thick reef]

yea its just shitty if u cant win

[coral axle]

Only problem is it takes a while to find a tank and 3 healers, but as a healer it's less of an issue

[grand scaffold]

use execute

also if you have 2x overpower 2x ep use ms

[burnt hull]

is prot playable? loved it in preseason

havent played since

[coral axle]

Not very

Prot is pretty bad rn, you can mess around in normal bgs with it but I've tried it in rbg and it feels like trolling compared to dh/druid

[thick reef]

yea def not the same in SL

oh wait

prot war sorry

rofl my b

[scarlet barn]

Shade smh

[thick reef]

😂

yea my b i goofed up

[burnt hull]

i have a solid 1:30 clip of me 1v3 as prot before the season came out

literally unkillable

[coral axle]

Yeah it was dumb as fuck lol

More people just meant more damage to feed your IP

[torpid roost]

That's not true - 5 geared people could kill you

[grand scaffold]

wish me luck bois

[rancid granite]

may your queues be short and your blade be mighty

(or something)

[cloud raft]

good luck mate

[undone pumice]

may your healer be r1 and your crits common

[sage raptor]

100k shield slams are still common for me

[coral axle]

Doesn't really help with flag carrying or spinning a base though

Might as well just go arms and hit twice as hard

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/rbg/all/#spec

24 prot warriors in the top 5000, zero above 2200

[sage raptor]

Am I really about to push my prot above 2200 in rbgs to prove a point?

[coral axle]

That'd be sick ngl

[sage raptor]

My goal is 2200+

[coral axle]

There's one brewmaster player rn

[sage raptor]

Ooooo

[coral axle]

Only 1 fury warrior too, you guys should team up

[sage raptor]

Lol yeah

I have a pocket dk to play with too

I think this could work

[undone pumice]

p sure flark and mes are like 2.1k on blood too while were talking about cringe specs

[sage raptor]

No one cares what flark plays. Mes tho.

[undone pumice]

2.1k solo tho

[sage raptor]

Ooof

Wait 2100 is best blood?

[coral axle]

Actually highest prot war is 2k in rbgs right now

[undone pumice]

tanks in solo

[coral axle]

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/filter/results?class=warrior&spec=protection&leaderboard=rbg&region=eu

[undone pumice]

i think so yh mby even bit lowrr

[sage raptor]

Wow

I can do it too

[undone pumice]

tanks arent so popular in solo

i think w eshould make unholy the tank spec and blood a dps spec

blood dk is cool

unholy nameplate spam cringe

[sage raptor]

I bet the wound mechanic would work a lot better

[undone pumice]

im also just gonna say it

compared to unholy and blood frost is lame

[sage raptor]

I have to agree

Unholy and Blood are S tier in terms of theme

Frost still feels like a battle mage imo

[undone pumice]

i think thats cool but

not on a plate class

plate should be big bombaclatz brawly boys

[sage raptor]

Battle mages are cool for sure but if I play a dk I want something something like a dk yknow

[undone pumice]

ye

i think fire should be more of a battle mage spec

and enhancement less like a battle mage

[coral axle]

I mean dk felt like a battle mage when it came out, playing unholy most ur skills were ranged

[undone pumice]

petition to kneecap fires range for 0 reason

[coral axle]

Never played the class past wrath screw that

[undone pumice]

ye but lorewise a dk is just an unstoppable force of lich king stuff

and paladins are immovable walls of the light

at leaat the immovable part stayed

fukin wheelchair class

[sage raptor]

They doubled down on it lately lol

[undone pumice]

lmao

i think arms should be able to equip 3 2h weps

he is a weaponmaster after all

enhances bladestorm to new levels with 3x the ticks

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ff-gilgamesh-gilgamesh-gif-24461080

[sage raptor]

No gcd when switching weapons and can switch them in combat.

[muted surge]

Let us use a shield again :(

[digital crater]

Does damp stack additively or multiplicatively with MS?

[fair tide]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-teamgaovl-sword-running-swing-gif-16722760

me lining the healer for sure

[halcyon imp]

will I be fine to jump in to shuffle with full honor gear?

[fair tide]

yes and no

if you're low cr, than yes

but you might run into that fully geared fdk thats just starting his frost push

and get trucked

I'd say wait until you get a couple of peices, maybe start as fury

cause your first few games are pretty important for placement

if you intend to push arms

[woeful solstice]

just hit 2100 as arms, loving it

[fair tide]

going to be a swimming pool full of tears come tuesday

[woeful solstice]

yep

[fair tide]

lotta ppl going to be getting their 4set too

[halcyon imp]

will be low cr because ive not played in a while but not really played fury

[fair tide]

fury is a little more forgiving

[halcyon imp]

can i still use vers crit gear?

[fair tide]

crit is kinda meh for fury

you want haste

just farm out a set

[halcyon imp]

so fury is vers haste and arms is vers crit?

[copper hare]

Ill be honest, fury will be a dead spec (it's already worse now) next week

So, just insta go arms and get used to it tbh

[indigo barn]

Inb4 onslaught 1 shot fury memes

[fair tide]

correct

[halcyon imp]

thanks 🙂

likely stick as arms then and just get used to it whilst i just bought the full crit set :p

thanks all

[copper hare]

yeah, best idea. Arms will be in a reaaally good spot next week

while fury doesnt gain anything and also has a useless tier set

[halcyon imp]

good to know 🙂

[leaden lynx]

does anyone have a pastebin for good threat plates custom nameplates to only show important stuff like psyfiend?

[fair tide]

https://wago.io/3mOWMvqrt

think thats what I use

I know its a WA but I find it more effective

but for threatplates I dunno, I just use omni

[spice hornet]

I still don’t understand why you can power word shield the psyfiend now

Lol

They ever explain their reasoning with that change?

[digital crater]

What kind of intervene macro do y'all use?

[merry valley]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover] Intervene

[fair tide]

^

you can mo arena frames w/ that to help

[digital crater]

Fuck me that's handy, does that go for any MO spell?

Want to do that with bolt as well

[fair tide]

#showtooltip Storm Bolt
/cancelaura bladestorm
/cast [target=arena1] Storm Bolt

1/2/3 prob best for arena

#showtooltip Storm Bolt
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead][harm,nodead] Storm Bolt

for mo

[digital crater]

Thanks a lot!

[fair tide]

you bet

[digital crater]

Where'd you put your 1/2/3 for this?

[fair tide]

you have to make 3 different macros

just change arena1 to arena2, arena3

[digital crater]

just looking for inspiration on where to put them

[fair tide]

I just keybind them to 1-2-3 on my kb

[digital crater]

i am new all to fuck

so 1, 2 and 3 are dedicated to picking targets?

[fair tide]

for me, yes

[full quiver]

Cause spriest was too weak

[fair tide]

just kb them to what you feel is comfortable

[digital crater]

sick, thanks!

[copper hare]

I wanna hit ignore pain man

NOW

[fair tide]

soon

[coral axle]

For anything with an arena 123 bind I pick a key and go key, shift, ctrl. Ex: z, shift z, ctrl z

1 is nomod, 2 is shift, 3 ctrl

[spice hornet]

any good macros for arms in 10,0,5 any1 know? plz n ty

[copper hare]

what slot to craft unity on?

[digital crater]

Which abilities would a good player typically 123?

[copper hare]

stormbolt disarm, if you wanna tryhard even charge

but there is also an option to get used to keybind focus arena 1/2/3 and then use focus macro

[digital crater]

Is there a way to make my camera snap to the person I 123?

Feel like that's going to fuck me up when it gets hectic

[lucid walrus]

nope

you've gotta be fairly close to bolt anyway

[digital crater]

is shift-A, shift-S, shift-D a dipshit way of doing 123 stormbolt?

i like the feel of this but i havent tried it in a rated game yet

[coral axle]

Seems fine to me as long as it feels comfortable

Assuming you are using Q and E to strafe and not A and D, using shift modifiers on your movement keys is kinda weird imo

[patent walrus]

what gear should i target as arms for PvP i already have some pieces

if anyone can help me out that would be nice. idk how to link my armory. sorry

[coral axle]

Weapon is the only real priority, rest is personal preference

I like to buy the cheapest pieces first so I have the highest chance of a lucky vault

[patent walrus]

i think this is it

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/scrümp

im using the tier shoulders and chest for the 2set. idk if it works or not

or if getting conquest shoulders and chest is better

[copper hare]

No, 2 set is fucking broken

but you can make the crafting head which is really good, in case you don't use your sparks/vault slots for pve anyways

can also farm 100 sparks and buy some 421 gear

with broken I mean it's giga in pvp and should always be used!

[patent walrus]

ah okay and for the sparks do i turn them in for the quest?

[copper hare]

the 100 spark quest? You haven't done that quest once yet or

[patent walrus]

i did it last week and this week

turned them in. for the rewards

[copper hare]

you havent spend the trophys yet, thats what you meant?

[patent walrus]

i did to up my weapon to 385

[strange thistle]

I came back after a long break. dark iron dwarf > orc? What happened

[coarse portal]

"average wait time, 9 minutes, current time in queue, 24 minutes"

HMMMM

[thick reef]

You get 20% CC reduction between Trinket Set Bonus & Crafted Booties

[fair tide]

Zug zug or bust

There are no other options

[barren bear]

i feel like i royally f'd myself. all my gear is Verse Haste as I was maining Fury this expac. but seems like Arms the way to go afterall and even with the introduction of the Tier Set maker it seems to be once a week and will keep the secondary stats for non-set items. @@

[coral axle]

Nothing wrong with haste on arms, it may even be better for the bleed build

[digital crater]

How do I write a macro for Intervene @ my focus? Can't get it to work

[smoky anchor]

/cast [@focus] Intervene

[keen silo]

how do you get the red pvp axe mog?

[mystic barn]

2400

[keen silo]

does solo shuffle work?

[mystic barn]

ye

[visual hedge]

when you get disarmed does weapon swapping work in this ?

[smoky anchor]

no

[pale minnow]

Imagine that'll work noone would play disarm

[full quiver]

https://gyazo.com/78ec50815c50539c50b57581c2a5727e

[smoky anchor]

oh baby

170k ms on this poor dh that blur'd air

man some mages are just fucking cracked and dominate the entire lobby

most just fall over tho

[coral axle]

yeah now that mage isnt op its hard as fuck to play

[slim knoll]

Is arms gonna do better damage next patch? Seems like UH dk and DH, ret, all do way more dam

[smoky anchor]

arms will pump next patch

[lucid walrus]

overpower will feel decent to press so it’ll definitely get its sustain bumped

honestly that’s a huge strength rn, issue is how volatile games are atm

[slim knoll]

Really hoping we compete with other classes on dam soon. Embarrassing looking at rbg dam numbers. Maybe I'm trash but I had high uptime, prioritized ms with op stacks, etc

[sharp meteor]

I mean overall is great but I imagine in rbgs it's mostly a matter of having good target selection then burst to align with sharpen.

[lucid walrus]

only thing is rogues allegedly getting aoe sharpen(?) but we have a lot of highly impactful tools for teamfights and whatnot

[sharp meteor]

aoe 35% isn't cleaved 50%

still pretty nutty tho

[lucid walrus]

yeah that’s still crazy

it’s basically 10k more dps from a dk or ret that you probably already made room for vs war banner, rally, intervene, sharpen etc in EOTS mid

[sharp meteor]

two rogues just dash in to aoe shiv and aoe garrote/rupture an entire team and they just explode

what a wild time that'll be

[smoky anchor]

damn i did it

an actual 208k ms

[sharp meteor]

🪓

[smoky anchor]

2 pc is a game changer

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, big.

[smoky anchor]

10.0.5 talent ree changes are so nice

[barren halo]

[smoky anchor]

man

dh really do just drop once blur is down

[indigo barn]

They feel like rogues

100%

[modern veldt]

idk if i'd ever run it but what weapons with stats would SMF run?

[radiant lake]

Any predictions on best 3s comp to push as arms with? Ret war? Tsg? Kitty?

[surreal compass]

hey big dawgs, do we have a bis list for arms ?

[muted surge]

Gear?

[surreal compass]

yas

[digital crater]

pvp tier in any slot that'll take it, crafted pvp helmet, crafted pvp feet, glad gear on everything else, stat priority dependent on build but usually max crit

[surreal compass]

likeupdated

[surreal compass]

fr

do i have to craft *:

):

[lucid walrus]

people will workorder it for like zero commission

boots > helm with regards to value of crafted items imo

[digital crater]

I make it for PvP goons for 30k per piece, got mad rich

[surreal compass]

i give you 1 gold

[digital crater]

Sold

[surreal compass]

bless

[surreal compass]

can you share the name of the craftable pvp gear pls ?

[lucid walrus]

infurious helm of vengeance, infurious warboots

[surreal compass]

chur bby

[topaz tulip]

I'm really glad this is the first thing I saw when I opened pvp chat, cuz I was just about to go looking for one

[hot solstice]

dks damage btw

imagine deep wounds do same damage as dks plague

[fickle forge]

We called that BFA

[hot solstice]

nah it did ok damage in panda with big slams and mortals

why just cant have both

[fickle forge]

BFA was literally 40% DW dmg on profile

Cause if you have both, then you're called DH, feral or ret

[cinder sluice]

If your 4 set is 411 , Head and boots are the crafted ones and rest is gladi gear. Is it good gear for pvp?

[fickle forge]

3 omega toxic specs

[hot solstice]

guess u go 2/4

4/4 is a big vers loss and 4set isnt that big buff as 2set

[floral seal]

when getting pvp crafted gear, does it matter if its 1* or 5*?

[hot solstice]

doesnt

[undone pumice]

no

[cinder sluice]

So its best to go with chest for crit and leggs for 2set?

[fickle forge]

Higher number releases higher dopamine

[hot solstice]

I go for chest+shoulders

want that 10% haste

[fickle forge]

You'll end up with all 4 pieces anyway

Since helm is crafted

[hot solstice]

Idk why they dont buff mortal for 5% in 10.0.5....cause they r removing improve mortal talent

[cinder sluice]

I think they buff it 5%

[fickle forge]

Because MS is already hitting giga hard?

[hot solstice]

no info in patchnotes

[hot solstice]

is it? I thought radiant decree hits gigahard

[lucid walrus]

i mean it does

[fickle forge]

It does

[lucid walrus]

but we're hitting 200k or so mortals on occasion

[hot solstice]

it does on avatar go if target has low armor...I rarely see 100k+on plate though

[cinder sluice]

Some classes deserve to get gigahard hit

[hot solstice]

i wont mind mortal nerf if overpower and slam did something

[fickle forge]

Warrior already has a pretty lit kit and pressure

[hot solstice]

and execute...there is nothing more frustrating than hitting 6 executes on low dk with -15% passive

[cinder sluice]

Slap justs fills the spellbook

[fickle forge]

Come IP and it's a solid af spec

[lean burrow]

solid B-tier spec?

[cinder sluice]

After bfa i rly enjoy arms

[lucid walrus]

OP will

[fickle forge]

Average fury reroller mindset

Arms so squishy man, I can't wall in stuns anymore!

[lucid walrus]

slam might if we take the new talent(s) for it

[lean burrow]

arms be running behind pillar

waiting for cds back

[cinder sluice]

Mop second wind will solve the issue.

[lean burrow]

need dstance 15-20 and then it's solid B+ tier

[fickle forge]

Surely when you've been on god tier levels of survivability for 2.5 seasons, going back to being mortal must feel weak relatively

All pre-nerf fury needed was a cheat death

😎👍

[lean burrow]

cheat death

lower cd on storm bolt to 20 sec

give stealth

[cinder sluice]

Its the warrior mindset u struggle for being god tier

[feral heath]

Why do I get 0-400rated players when I'm 1700 in SSR, didn't they fix that?

[fickle forge]

SL kitty scorched me

[scarlet barn]

[fickle forge]

Kitty dropping all dmg and goes tank lego to spam CC while an unkillable fury warr with no stun 123123 someone down with perma 40% MS

Not even DH has been that far down

[lucid walrus]

placements probably

their placements obv, not yours

[lean burrow]

if mortal strike became 30% heal reduction, would arms finally be A-tier?

[fickle forge]

B+ for sure

😎👍

[lean burrow]

C+ tier

[fickle forge]

B-?

[feral heath]

Okey. Sucks to win 5of 6 and lose rating..

[lean burrow]

arms before fury nerfs F-tier

[fickle forge]

That's MMR related though

Yours

Not placement people's

[lucid walrus]

yeah. they're in your lobbies bc of placements but losing rating for that is bc of MMR convolution

[lean burrow]

imagine being healer

play at 2k

get enemy healer with 0 cr

go 5-1 and get +2 rating

[feral heath]

Went on a losing streak from 1990 to 1600. Can't climb back because I don't get rating when I win 4 or 5 of 6 😅

[fickle forge]

Yeah, that's why you get no rating then

You gutted your MMR on your losing streak

[topaz tulip]

Guys I am in tears. I've spent the whole season just struggling because I love fury and I've been doing my best at it in pvp. I stepped into arms for all of 3 matches and I'm already sitting higher than fury ;-;

[fickle forge]

Need to win consistently to bring it back up

[scarlet barn]

so....you want napkin then?

[topaz tulip]

No I want fury to not be fucking dog shit for one god damn season

[fickle forge]

Bruh.

Lmao

[feral heath]

Aight, faking long queue are breaking my spirit more then the loses

[fickle forge]

So like the past 2.5 seasons where it's been god tier?

[lean burrow]

adios, fury

[steep inlet]

lol

where have you been

for 1 year

[scarlet barn]

I know some people that say they are hardcore fury
then never played it when it was god tier
now they wanted to play it when it was bad and they play arms instead

[steep inlet]

like ndogo

[topaz tulip]

Oh it was good last year? So I literally just missed the sweet spot ;-; Couldn't play literally the whole time. Every single year I've been around fury has just been ass in pvp

[steep inlet]

it was A-S tier

for 1 year complete

[topaz tulip]

well fuck me and my job

[fickle forge]

Fury has been the best melee in the game for half of SL and early DF

[scarlet barn]

Arms was Super Sayian level first season though

[topaz tulip]

Fair enough. I stand corrected. I'd just like to see it be more successful than it is now at least. Its sad to me that a spec change is making this much of a difference

[steep inlet]

two first season

of sl

[scarlet barn]

6 second intervene at start though

[steep inlet]

improved necrobanner in s2

and higher exec

[topaz tulip]

Is that the answer then? Fury was performing too well so they just nerfed it to the ground and we gotta wait a year for it to come back?

[undone pumice]

25s iv

overwatch

[undone pumice]

fury was performing to well compared to how hard it was

[muted surge]

Fury was toxic

[undone pumice]

A/B tier class that was just fucking obscenely easy

you could fit the rotation on your mousewheel unironically

mwheelup bt, mwheel down rampage, m3 slam

[topaz tulip]

lmao

I'm not saying that's what I want. I mean, i'm here for the challenge. I just don't want the challenge to be my own fucking spec

[undone pumice]

go play fury if u want to play fury

im just saying your lifts will go down

[topaz tulip]

Nah I'm good for now. I've been 7 years loyal and yall here in skyhold convinced me to try this shit. I'll wait til she's better again

[lucid walrus]

best MS in the game and infinite mobility was abusive

[scarlet barn]

Best mobility was when Thirst for Battle was a thing

[undone pumice]

s3 sl cb charge

gigashitting a megafart of damage through all your defs and mobility

[lucid walrus]

this damage profile is so funny man

[topaz tulip]

Yeah I was kinda salty when I saw it removed. Was honestly a favourite back in legion and early bfa

[inner sigil]

is the level 70 boost coming out on 10.05?

[crude bane]

why ret are unkillable like that fs

[topaz tulip]

Somebody need a shattering throw

[lusty moth]

buy 2 token’s and get an afk level boost, 10-70 works out cheaper than the insta level 60 boosts

[inner sigil]

is it coming out

[hollow ore]

Afk level boost? You got me interested now

How tf does it work

[lucid walrus]

cobalt assembly

[topaz tulip]

Definitely need some of those but also, why not just make it a damn token by itself?

[lucid walrus]

no clue what afk 1-60 entails

[inner sigil]

is the boost coming out 😦

[lucid walrus]

we dunno

probably soon, maybe not

[lusty moth]

no

[crude bane]

any class tuning incoming LIKE FOR FUCKING ELEM

[lusty moth]

it’s usually last tier but what i’m saying is you can get an afk boost from level 10-70 cheaper than any insta boost blizzard offers

[crude bane]

sorry for the anger but im not sorry

they rly have to put some CAST FOR CASTER HJELOO BLIZZARD

[lusty moth]

it’s like 200k 10-60 and 180k 60-70, eu prices so you actually have surplus gold based on our current token prices & i assume us would be roughly same token ratio

[crude bane]

10-60 is like under 10 hour isnt it

shoulda boost xp some ppl to get gold actually

[topaz tulip]

Oh hey, my 9min but actually 30 min q finally popped

[crude bane]

gl

[lusty moth]

2hour 10-60, 1hour 60-70

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/828383688135409674/1058471862608347227/image0.png

[scarlet barn]

old

[crude bane]

they rly have to make a real soloQ

[scarlet barn]

smh

[crude bane]

just 1 Game

then go next

like arena tournament

prevent all leaver drop MMR

[inner sigil]

where do u buy the afk boost 60-70

[crude bane]

also they have to remoove the 1 guy is dead go next

i killed some1 sec after ally died

and i lost

[fickle forge]

(G)old

[fickle forge]

Imagine how many people will come and complain that they got matched as batman cleave vs RMP or smth

Hunters, with their 2 viable comps, be malding

😎👍

[lusty moth]

my double prot pala, ret, ele and survival game went stupid

[crude bane]

noob RMP doing 0

[next herald]

Why is it called Batman cleave

[fickle forge]

No idea

Prob same guy who named hunter+warr KFC

[lucid walrus]

big strong cool guy beating people up while the shrimpy sidekick punches people in the nuts and throws stuff

[scarlet barn]

Angry cat cleave

[fickle forge]

[next herald]

Never understood why warr Hunter is kung fu cleave

[crude bane]

today lobby 3-3 3-3 3-3

2hour of world of Qeucraft

[heavy crown]

can anyone recomend me a good arms talent tree for pvp ?

[lucid walrus]

check pins

[surreal compass]

whats arms weapon enchant ?

[undone pumice]

sophic$

[wheat jay]

What do you mean 2 viable comps?

Jungle and what xD

Also bm gonna be broken when ppl get bows from raszageth and 4sets

And I can't play bm cuz I refuse to descend to madness

Fuck my life

[pearl prism]

Anyone got tips to break above 2.2k?

in solo shuffle

Kind of hovering around there

[fickle forge]

Thug

[wheat jay]

Played by one person

Yes

[fickle forge]

Implying there are more than 2 hunters on ladder?

[fringe osprey]

Rasz bow only buffs up when you focus the same target and never swap. I don’t think it’s very strong for pvp tbh. You could easily play in a way to force them to swap between targets. Not to mention the ilvl will be way lower than real pvp weapons since not many will get mythic drops

[wheat jay]

Fair point

Its only bic and kasu iirc

[digital crater]

Struggling with this macro

#showtooltip Storm Bolt
/cancelaura bladestorm
/cast [target=arena1] Storm Bolt

Why ain't it work

My zug brain bad

Says "I have no target" even with 1 in range

[urban skiff]

#showtooltip Storm Bolt
/cancelaura bladestorm
/use [@arena1] Storm Bolt

[scarlet barn]

/cast [@arena1,nodead][@target] Stormbolt

try this

or that above me

[urban skiff]

maybe your UI is showing the wrong arena# in the first spot

[digital crater]

I use gex, does that change anything?

Trying that, thanks

[urban skiff]

it shouldn't

[lean burrow]

gex enjoyer

[urban skiff]

what's wrong with gex?

[lean burrow]

it's obvious

instead of gex you could have sex

[urban skiff]

I'm married so sex is literally a boxwine away

and like LED candles

Any predictions about how to arena in 10.0.5?

[digital crater]

mash ip

dont die to gos anymore

[lean burrow]

bis macro

[bronze wedge]

Mash IP, such 5head much wow

[undone pumice]

any pinners?

[urban skiff]

no chance of a fury return with onslaught / CB instead of annie?

[bronze wedge]

This BigPP macro

[undone pumice]

i think annie is a child

[urban skiff]

omg is she ok?

[undone pumice]

no shes a league champ she will never be ok

[urban skiff]

Onslaught hits for 212% so that's basically rampage

I have no idea what their vision is for onslaught

[undone pumice]

i think like

3rd ramp

hit big ms

then big onslaught pop

[urban skiff]

Looks like you'd do rampage rampage onslaught rampage.

just noticed now tenderize gives +60% on next rampage

[mild thunder]

not really... rb build does okayish damage, but nothing special, is easy to kite, pretty squishy, super easy to shutdown, cc and kill

[urban skiff]

Not much different from annie build

[mild thunder]

very different to anni build. it was never good because it did special damage or anything, it was purely the sustain and self-healing you got from bloodthirst spam + bt bleed + enraged regen

[urban skiff]

oh right I forgot about CSHB healing

[mild thunder]

rb build now is just running s4 SL fury but no banner, no bladestorm, no rb charge and shitty slaughterhouse > all the strongest things about it lol

[urban skiff]

lmao

So what's the deal with arms then? Are we going to ignore midleft of the tree now that we can get goodies without it?

[mild thunder]

probably not? tactician, rend and dreadnaught are all probably pretty important

[next herald]

How exactly does ignore pain Work ?

[urban skiff]

you press it

and get a shield

half the damage you take is applied to your hp, the other half is applied to the shield

[urban skiff]

rend is kinda meh and you can skip straight to dreadnaught without picking up improved slam.

I guess it really means we can go more bleed focused without losing unhinged crit build?

[mild thunder]

rend isnt spectacular, although it gets better with 10.0.5

[urban skiff]

raw damage buff or?

[mild thunder]

fact is, you can go ahead and skip rend or improved slam, and you're gonna be stuck with nowhere else to dump points

[next herald]

How Long does the shield Last

[mild thunder]

arms isnt flush with great options

[urban skiff]

used to be 6 or 10 seconds

[urban skiff]

ya rip. Skip imp sweeping strikes and grab strength of arms?

[mild thunder]

imp ss and SoA are on the same node

you pick up everything in the middle, everything you want on the right, and you have leftover points

[urban skiff]

yeah I meant to say we free up a point to put into SoA at the cost of 1/3 of old sweeping strikes talent

[mild thunder]

so you have to pick between imp slam, SoS or rend - out of the three, rend is the best

[urban skiff]

there's the secret third option

the DK option

put everything into buffing the shit out of ww

[mild thunder]

you can try that

and it does like 50k lol

while eating 60 rage

[flat tide]

Stonks

[mild thunder]

i'll probably be trying TC + rend for 3s after 10.0.5 drops

with a point or two in bloodborne and bloodletting

[urban skiff]

I can't tell if I want a bleed build or not to dominate

[mild thunder]

there really isnt a "bleed build" or an "unhinged build" or "EP build" for arms anymore

there'll be one main build that picks up everything

[urban skiff]

would you mind showing it? I just can't get this puzzle to make sense

[mild thunder]

thats everything you can pick up in one build

[urban skiff]

oooh, i hadn't thought to skip critical thining

[mild thunder]

yea everyone is still picking it up for some reason

2% crit and 10% rage refund

[leaden niche]

Is Ignore Pain off the gcd?

[lucid walrus]

ya

[urban skiff]

yes

[leaden niche]

that's awesome

[elfin surge]

pog

[lucid walrus]

was on gcd for BFA-era prot

very dumb

[royal belfry]

Hey, I have 4 set - does it work in arenas and what spec should I play in arenas with 4 set?

[lucid walrus]

yes, arms

[mild thunder]

we gon be OP

[inner sigil]

why

[digital crater]

Rdruid + arms vs uhdk + rdruid

[digital crater]

How the fuck do I play this

[mild thunder]

shame strength of arms will probably never get played... improved ss is so strong

[mild thunder]

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

W mud

[lean burrow]

banner behind pillar, stun dk to bait defensives, pop all defensives?

[inner sigil]

ignore pain is comin back

[urban skiff]

holy fuck

[inner sigil]

im so happyyy

[urban skiff]

I only just now realized that SS keeps original duration

[lucid walrus]

mhm

[elfin surge]

based

[mild thunder]

21s of sweeping

[lucid walrus]

70% uptime

[mild thunder]

is so fucking busted

[elfin surge]

is so fucking bad

[urban skiff]

hoooooooooo I'm so hot right now

[digital crater]

Survived his burst a few times, just couldn't kill him

[lean burrow]

passive sweeping pls

[digital crater]

Mb should've gone druid

[mild thunder]

the rage gen part of strength of arms is also completely useless to us in pvp

[inner sigil]

arms is gas

[lucid walrus]

the way you burn rdruid mana is frequent swapping to targets that don't have hots/swapping off targets with cen ward

[mild thunder]

there should be a talent that gives us 1% strength per rage point past 30 or something so excess rage isnt wasted

[royal belfry]

What's the reccomended build for 2s? cause I see quite a few here to pick from

[elfin surge]

do not q 2s

[lucid walrus]

anywho i really want strength of arms to be an optimal pick but idk. can't have everything

[royal belfry]

But I'm just playing with my friend

[elfin surge]

🙏

[royal belfry]

What's wrong with 2s? Warriors just not hot or?

[mild thunder]

do you know if it affects dreadnaught?

[elfin surge]

warrior is a walking target dummy

in 2s

[lucid walrus]

lemme see

[royal belfry]

oh gotcha

[urban skiff]

it's spelled "waddling"

[mild thunder]

deflated af + warr poopoo in 2s

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

2s is just assa rogue waiting room

[urban skiff]

oh yeah assa getting AoE sharpen blade shivs in a few days

[mild thunder]

[urban skiff]

Reminds me I need to get my strife so I'm ready

juuuust need to pick up my last bit of gold

[lucid walrus]

lol

dreadnaught really will just shit out damage

[mild thunder]

kinda weird that its taken so long for them to add dreadnaught modifiers for OP

since it was baked into CtR in SL

[lucid walrus]

definitely is

[urban skiff]

does sweeping strikes still give two shockwaves from dreadnaught or was that taken out when it was converted into a talent from seismic wave azerite power?

[lucid walrus]

it worked like that in SL

so pretty sure it's still intact

[mild thunder]

OP is getting pretty substantative buffs in 10.0.5

[urban skiff]

wait does that mean we'll also get 16 rage with ss SoA?

[mild thunder]

so maybe SoA will see some play in 2s or tunnel games

[lucid walrus]

maybe it works like that, probably not

rage doesn't seem like it'll ever be an issue anyway

[mild thunder]

we'll still probably have an excess

[urban skiff]

how important is it to cap out crit on gear to enjoy arms? I'm only at 18% because I started out as fury and I don't feel very dangerous

[mild thunder]

only time my rage is ever below 30 is 5 ms resets in a row

[lucid walrus]

there's definitely no hard and fast "oh this changes everything" breakpoint for crit

that said, having a 40% chance for mortal to crit is pretty goofy

[mild thunder]

dont listen to Mud's anti-crit propaganda

he said to stack haste because colsmash gives crit anyway
but colsmash also gives haste

[elfin surge]

so stack mastery

got it

[urban skiff]

let's fuckin' go

[lucid walrus]

hastecels seething over gamblerchads

[plush cradle]

Mud is anti-crit

damn

[urban skiff]

wish I knew what addons are giving me so many arena frames

[mild thunder]

okay okay hear me out

technically

[plush cradle]

sorry i'll go back to my pve channels