Avg human vs a plumber at plumbing
#pvp
late nacelle
Plumbers probs top .3%
They're good
Fixed
Hc raiders aren't real raiders
Just a lil dabbling for em
mystic barn
thats because it is
barren vale
thats because it is
It does elite damage and has more static healing. Frost is only better specifically for enabling huge cleaves/goes in a pillar window.
Frost probably needs some tweaks to its PvP Death Strike as that nerf hit Frost way harder than UH
barren vale
In 3s there are definitely places where Frost is better.
But UH is mostly the better spec in general in terms of individual power, and it shows. Like, it gets played 10x more in shuffle
mystic barn
In 3s there are definitely places where Frost is better.
if there was places that frost would be better i would have seen more than 0 frost dks in 3s
unholy ww> frost ww
where frost was the usualy go to spec for twd
frost just sucks
barren vale
I see Mes play a lot of Frost still in his 3s games
barren vale
I mean he would play UH always if it was always better?
barren vale
He isn't playing something deliberately worse
He's playing it because he thinks it's the right choice
Because he swaps to UH as well
mystic barn
think you also missed the mes stream where he was actually moping over dk too
scarlet barn
Pvp is more muddy
mystic barn
so
barren vale
Conversation is over. We're talking about other things now.
barren vale
And we're all more enlightened
barren vale
think you also missed the mes stream where he was actually moping over dk too
I watch him often. He's changed his tune some. He isn't moping as much but I think Frost needs some survival love.
barren vale
I don't have a hard time with heroic raids. The average player will be challenged by them. I'm tired of discussing this though. Topic is beaten to death.
late nacelle
And if u say its easy you're an elitist but if he calls his friend bad then he isn't an elitist
barren vale
Move on
late nacelle
Dude is probably one of those brainwashed woke types and/or really short
mystic barn
is being short a personality
late nacelle
For some
barren vale
I would describe my height as average.
late nacelle
Less than 2m is short
late nacelle
If u dont have at least a million in the bank ur poor
mild thunder
Dude is probably one of those brainwashed woke types and/or really short
There’s nothing more cringe in the world than calling people woke
mild thunder
No one’s woke, except for a few rich retarded people on Twitter. It’s not a real thing
flat dome
Most people that say that don't even know what it means
late nacelle
No one’s woke, except for a few rich retarded people on Twitter. It’s not a real...
You'd think so
Sadly
It is very real
mild thunder
No, I know so. The kind of people you’d call woke, make up less than 7% of the US population
What’s cringe is acting like it’s ruining the world
proven maple
Paranoid boomer worries about the woke people.
flat dome
Which ironically, makes them woke
mild thunder
"There are no people like that"
"They make up less than 7% of the population"
It’s called a little hyperbole. Obviously they exist, but it’s not a real issue
late nacelle
Thats debatable
But irrelevant to this as well
I simply called this one dude
Such a person
late nacelle
How is that acting like its ruining the world
proven maple
Or a dick head
barren vale
He's trying to say demeaning things while pretending he isn't saying demeaning things.
mild thunder
How is that acting like its ruining the world
Because the only people that use woke as an insult, are the people that think there’s a secret cabal of “radical woke post-modern, neo-Marxist communist leftists” that are conspiring to cause the downfall of western society
proven maple
Yea…
barren vale
Like I'm not short or woke, but go off gnome king
late nacelle
I just genuinely thought he reminded of such a person
barren vale
I bet
sage raptor
It’s called a little hyperbole. Obviously they exist, but it’s not a real issue
WoW players can't comprehend those. Nor hypotheticals.
You ever bring up a hypothetical in a WoW discord?
late nacelle
Nah the gnome king is someone else
sage raptor
No u
late nacelle
We do speak on occasion tho
barren vale
But hey, I appreciate the attempted insult. Maybe you do have emotions.
mild thunder
RivenEsq still cringe
late nacelle
Yes and hc is still easy
barren vale
For you, I'm sure it is.
sage raptor
You have a Boe Jiden pfp
mild thunder
Heroic raid is easy as fuck, and if the majority of the WoW player base were negative chromosome cripples that couldn’t clear heroic raid, it wouldn’t mean someone that can is good.
late nacelle
Yes
mild thunder
You have a Boe Jiden pfp
Yes 
flat dome
I use my turn signal. That doesn't mean I am a pro driver
mystic barn
let’s go Brandon
sage raptor
Kids won't smell themselves let's gooo
scarlet barn
So little it takes here
mild thunder
Darth Brandon doesn’t suffer your malarkey
lucid walrus
here's the deal, jack
sage raptor
Kids won't smell themselves let's gooo
Actually they would. Kids are weird.
mystic barn
@full quiver noob
mystic barn
also can we go back to that 1 guy who lost 400 cr in shuffle and said he was going to go beat his wife in frustration?
sage raptor
Context matters hoss
full quiver
Because the only people that use woke as an insult, are the people that think th...
no it's just actual communist in russia
late nacelle
Hc is easy
flat dome
also can we go back to that 1 guy who lost 400 cr in shuffle and said he was goi...
I should feel bad for laughing at that
mystic barn
idk man I can’t even smell my 500 dollar cologne on myself
sage raptor
So who said he was going to beat his wife?
mild thunder
no it's just actual communist in russia
… what
flat dome
Should have zugged harder
mild thunder
Yes and no
late nacelle
Must zug
mystic barn
its joe biden eating ice cream
late nacelle
XD
mystic barn
galachad cant even 1pl8 bench
lucid walrus
my man unlocked bonus rounds
mystic barn
more like galanoob
flat dome
All gas no brakes
mild thunder
Actually I’m Australian so we use centimetres and kilos
mystic barn
also thinks that ams breaks poly
lucid walrus
dude got the gulag for solo shuff
sage raptor
also thinks that ams breaks poly
God I wish
full quiver
well i'm sure you're still short and fat in australia
mystic barn
God I wish
he called me pedantic :(
late nacelle
my man unlocked bonus rounds
Maybe he meant 1 4+ win 6 2- win rounds
sage raptor
he called me pedantic :(
What a butthole :(
full quiver
he called me pedantic :(
u r pedantic
next parcel
guys any idea why im killing players in azure span and i dont get any sparks? wtf? abandonned and retook as well
sage raptor
He's not conceited, he's convinced. Get it right.
mild thunder
my man unlocked bonus rounds
He lost the extra retard round 
sage raptor
Lmaoo
mystic barn
why are u even here scoobz
full quiver
u know why qcp
sage raptor
Uhm erm acktually
full quiver
go off sis @lucid walrus
flat dome
warriors can't do math
lucid walrus
💅
full quiver
lol
full quiver
i was drawn to ur scent
mystic barn
i do get compliments a lot on how i smell
late nacelle
Blue cheese smell?
mystic barn
Haven’t had blue cheese in a minute but I love dipping pizza into it
Pizza shop makes their own bleu cheese and it’s fuckin good
mild thunder
Best American import australia has ever gotten is blue cheese dressing
mystic barn
try making ur own, I do that with salad dressing since all the store bought stuff is meh
mild thunder
oh actually, we've just started getting a few taco bells in Sydney, and thats pretty good too
mild thunder
not a lot of mexican food over here, obviously just because of geographical location
we have a shitty chain called Guzman Y Gomez, but their food tastes like water
mystic barn
if you want authentic Mexican food look for some carne asada and actual guacamole
I said this like a week ago but the best Mexican restaurants always have water damage on the ceiling tiles
late nacelle
Tbh
mystic barn
chorizo tacos
mild thunder
im convinced that over 60% of sydney's restaurants are either korean, viet or chinese
the occasional italian or eastern european
carmine cairn
is there a conquest gear buying order?
carmine cairn
which are?
gaunt scaffold
wep chest legs head
carmine cairn
my wep is crafted and embellised others are tier pieces
or shoud I not care about tier bonus in pvp?
gaunt scaffold
i think ilvl>
stuck moss
what is the best alliance pvp race, still human?
lucid walrus
probably dark iron
thick reef
what is the best alliance pvp race, still human?
dark iron
thick reef
probably dark iron
100%
mystic barn
Hate this timeline
barren vale
Head seems less good with heavy mastery. Probably best to craft pvp head there, no?
I think chest/legs/shoulders/gloves are the preferred 4pc for tier imo
gaunt scaffold
you want crafted head and boots
torpid roost
I always want head, something something ur mum
gaunt scaffold
ez
torpid roost
And that's (by far) the hardest mythic piece to get, so, yeah, 4p better gained elsewhere
gaunt scaffold
so it it worth me running heroic tier legs?
steel trout
ye
gaunt scaffold
doesnt upgrade ilvl in pvp is the whole issue
steel trout
for tier set its worth
gentle depot
becaues arms falls over if you fuck up or have a bad healer
pure hornet
How can you fuck up? We mostly have 5-6 buttons
scarlet barn
Or low bench
gentle depot
drop out of d at wrong time
gentle depot
mint dagger
Are we getting ignore pain back?
mint dagger
Can't fucking wait
scarlet barn
Def not terrain
uncut isle
Is arms or fury better for pvp with these changes? I’ve been running fury and doing decent, hesitant to switch
hard hound
What do you call decent ?
If you wanna push play arms , if you wanna play for fun play what you want
hard hound
3s all day and I see no one use it
lucid walrus
think most of them are scared of a ban if it hasn't already been patched
late nacelle
guys guys
ignore pain is nice and all
but...
Improved Mortal Strike removed from the tree.
dead spec
torpid roost
Ded
muted surge
Hope they buff prot and nerf arms
torpid roost
Will be Tuesday IMO
uncut oasis
Just so that i know i'm not doing anything out of order, can someone give me the burst order assuming you play the bladestorm build ?
torpid roost
It's situational, against some teams it would be something like engage the enemy, hamstring, MS, OPOP, CS, bladestorm
Say if you're running unhinged and they're a CC heavy team
gaunt scaffold
just give us mop second wind and we'll be fine
also worth pursuing 4 set tier or is the ilvl loss too heavy
tardy flame
Generally the ilevel loss is too great. 2 pc is solid
I run PvP tier gloves and 415 PvE tier shoulders, for example
gaunt scaffold
gotcha so ive got pants/shoulders so i guess im set
pearl prism
can we use 2 handed weapons as Arms?
late nacelle
can we use 2 handed weapons as Arms?
only fishing poles
tardy flame
I've been hitting things with a bouquet of flowers. Is that not optimal?
pearl prism
It is not optimal
rare pelican
For fury once I got wep should I start saving for the second one or start buying other pieces like head/chest?
fair tide
if you're not 2handing ol crafty, you're doing it wrong
tardy flame
Assuming everyone has mythic tier
torpid roost
Go kill 2 bosses and get some shit out ya vault
Heroic ain't that bad either
Normal and LFR I wouldn't bother
tardy flame
Heroic 2pc is fine, but I wouldn't dip on nearly 20 ilevels a piece for the 4pc
Catalyst next week, so just make some PvP tier
torpid roost
Oh see, problem solved anyway
How did catalysts work before? I took a few expansions off
They gated?
tardy flame
I'd assume you'd get one item/week for a while, but I too didn't play late Shadowlands so not sure... They also might do it differently in this iteration
torpid roost
For me, I'll just use it on non mythic pieces
Still lacking legs, here's hoping I can score that
tardy flame
I'll be chucking it on legs too!
fair tide
talking devastation
torpid roost
Oh
Maybe I'm not high enough but I don't see many threatening ones
They open hard as fuck
Then i kill them
copper hare
Mobility? Dude evoker mana is the issue
nah, it's literally just every spell and instant they press tops people instantly
they could nerf them by 15% and they would still be s tier
but they shouldnt nerf them
they need to buff all the other healers to make them equal
thick reef
Starting with preist id say
copper hare
otherwise nobody is gonna play healer anymore
thick reef
otherwise nobody is gonna play healer anymore
ya then everyone just wagons evoker
and makes it their main
some ppl might
granite temple
Any way to have fun in epic BG's as a warrior?
copper hare
Any way to have fun in epic BG's as a warrior?
why, are you also afk like me?
granite temple
Just blow up by the 9 MM hunters pew-pewing in the back etc.
thick reef
bro
i dont even make it to teamfight
LOL
i lag out so i stay away from that bullshi
copper hare
epic bgs are literally, plant guild banner, go afk make some food
thick reef
i just pick 1v1s and win bc ppl in epic bgs r bots rofl
granite temple
Guess rogue is still the way to go to enjoy melee pvp
thick reef
epic bgs are literally, plant guild banner, go afk make some food
ye
sometimes i chat on cord
thick reef
Guess rogue is still the way to go to enjoy melee pvp
assa looks fun, now to fight one is not
copper hare
arcane is like the only of the three specs that actually requires some brain, rotation wise
granite temple
Consistently strong pvp classes since vanilla though
copper hare
that's why you barely see any good mages anymore
copper hare
But pretty sure frost lock is still amazing in 3s, but in shuffle mage is just getting bullied every round haha
mystic barn
yea theres that but something thats 10x scarier is ele lock
every class has something better to play with than mage atm imo
lucid walrus
Consistently strong pvp classes since vanilla though
we also fit this description tbf
granite temple
I suppose. I'm a BG andy so I've still struggled from time to time
copper hare
we also fit this description tbf
warrior was d tier now for like 5 weeks, what do you mean
:<
mystic barn
d tier btw
long ridge
i think that we are like b tier
s being ass rogue, feral, unholy dk
ele
A being like ret, devoker, warlocks
brazen rock
ret is good in 1 meme bracket
long ridge
okay so u can move ret from A tier to B tier depending on your opinion
brazen rock
arms is good right now and is getting the strongest pvp related buffs we've seen all expac
torpid roost
they need to buff all the other healers to make them equal
I don't know if making every healer dooker-shatteringly powerful is the answer
coral axle
Idk nobody wants to heal this xpack
Something about healing needs to change unless it's just wait around for healers forever
copper hare
Something about healing needs to change unless it's just wait around for healers...
this
either nerf all dmg/disable tier sets before it's too late or buff every healer but rdruid and prevoker
according to all r1 players damage on TR is way too high with everyone having 4 sets, full gems etc
and if r1 healers struggle to heal on the best classes, you know something ain't right
coral axle
Yeah I'd personally like all damage and self-healing to take a 10-20% nerf, makes healing less stressful but also still have people die if you cross cc their healer or catch them behind a pillar
full quiver
Lol give everyone else the dk ds treatment
copper hare
Lol give everyone else the dk ds treatment
you mean completely nerfing the wrong ability? :D (which should have been spellwarding instead ds) lol
mild thunder
does anyone else get the raid frame bug where they just disappear, and if so is there a known fix?
clear mountain
noob question: why do sometimes people port out of my spear and get pulled back, but others they dont? Do they trinket first when they dont get pulled back in?
fair tide
Anyone know if the tier catalyst will allow a pvp item to transfer into a tier set and keep the scaling effect?
mild thunder
Anyone know if the tier catalyst will allow a pvp item to transfer into a tier s...
yes
fair tide
So nice
That'll be pvp 4set
Can't wait
I assume it'll keep the secondary stats the same?
slim knoll
Will it cost honor to upgrade conq pieces to tier?
buoyant shale
whats the best weapon enchant for arms atm?
mild thunder
Will it cost honor to upgrade conq pieces to tier?
looks like it wont cost anything other than the weekly charge
tribal nimbus
whats the vers crit gem
visual hedge
Can I trouble someone with a link to a PvP arms warrior stream?
pearl prism
Trinket or ring with conquest points?
whats better buy?
Actually wait a second
With ignore pain coming back
Can we more reliably switch out health increase trinket? and use on use/proc one now?
With ignore pain, it might make getting a conquest on use/proc a better investment
unless the health increase trinket may still be needed sometimes even with ignore pain, assuming youre not human
azure moss
Hi all, with catalyst opening next reset
Should i get my 2h weapon this week+ 1 chest/pants?
The rest fill with neck/rings/cape?
smoky anchor
need some help guys. how do i stop this dmg (note last 2 abilities)
that's a devoker. seems to be something with that shit they fly over you with to get out of spear
flew away
turned around, then BAM 215k hit
torpid roost
I would agree pvp damage is excessive
I'm going the other way around, I'm a solo shuffle priest specialist
healing
lean burrow
need some help guys. how do i stop this dmg (note last 2 abilities)
dragonrage + tip the scales
dragonrage starts with autocasted pyre
tip the scales gives instant empower cast on firebreath
smoky anchor
i see
so do they tip the scales then press dragonrage and firebreath?
or dragonrage then tip the scales
or is it all at once
lean burrow
i think tip scales is off gcd but dragonrage is on
you got 1 gcd to react, good luck
smoky anchor
hahaha
i just need a weakaura that screams at me
save spell reflect for that moment
torpid roost
jeebus
smoky anchor
still would be nice to have the 20% magic damage reduction tho
torpid roost
riiiiight
sick breach
i kinda wanna try arms but I don't have a conquest crit weapon, should I use the honor crit weapon or keep using the mastery weapon?
thick reef
ilvl is always king
torpid roost
white damage/str lead is HUGE, use the mastery conq weap
thick reef
Crit is their best stat but its not best by some major margin, so generally ilvl will win out.
sick breach
got it thanks for the help!
gaunt scaffold
robust hamlet
what stats are you arms guys workin with?
next parcel
guys why dont I have set bonus on my conquest items?
smoky anchor
guys why dont I have set bonus on my conquest items?
only the tier has a set bonus, not the conquest pieces. though you'll be able to catalyst that next week i think.
next parcel
ive seen many people already with pvp items having a set???
even Bajheera has
on Elite items
smoky anchor
the tier can be obtained through the vault in the pvp section
it upgrades to 424
in pvp
and it's just regular tier pieces, just with the pvp modifier on it.
smoky anchor
yea
mild thunder
imo its not that big of a deal this season because the tier sets arent really a big deal, but if they're doing tier bonuses more similar to s3 SL, it needs to be like 2-3 weeks max
spice hornet
yeah m+ers hate it to because it does make a pretty decent difference there at least
really g ood guilds had 4pc weeks 1 and 2
topaz tulip
Two questions Part: I understand pvp gear focuses on versatility most of the time anyway, but is there a break point where I should be getting more mastery or crit or SOMETHING to get more damage out of fury? Part two: why is there no focus on haste/mastery in pvp if you would get more damage out of those anyway?
crisp mason
Two questions Part: I understand pvp gear focuses on versatility most of the tim...
u want haste for fury in pvp ur playing a bleed build check the pins u want to be aiming haste
ur dmg feels really bad without haste
topaz tulip
u want haste for fury in pvp ur playing a bleed build check the pins u want to b...
So haste > verse > crit > mastery? last fucking guide said verse > crit > haste > mastery. i'm salt now
course got a lot of haste anyway but still
crisp mason
vers>haste>crit=mast
but yeah i was the same went heavy in to vers/mast but after swaping to haste made my dmg alot better
topaz tulip
Noted. And the second part? is there a reason we prioritize verse for the smaller flat damage and honestly miniscule dr besides gear availability?
crisp mason
flat dmg and dr is just really nice in pvp
tardy flame
Fight someone without any vers and you'll realise it is not miniscule DR
coral axle
nothing miniscule about taking 30% less damage
topaz tulip
nothing miniscule about taking 30% less damage
Ya know, it just clicked in my head. I'm looking at the not pvp version of the stats, so I'm not seeing how much is actually being reduced at ilvl 420. This whole time I've been thinking it was only 13%
coral axle
gives you more healing too, which even for war isn't nothing
topaz tulip
Nah wait. I just looked at it at a pvp dummy
16% is what I get, not 33. and for fury, that much healing is pretty meaningless. You get to like 33 stacks and you're healing for nothing anyway.
crisp mason
i mean 16% of a 120k hit can be the dif of getting one shot and not
coral axle
ah yeah I forgot the damage reduction was less than the vers amount, it still feels like a night and day difference
but you are definitely welcome to play with as little vers as u can get, you'll do more damage with other stats
topaz tulip
i mean 16% of a 120k hit can be the dif of getting one shot and not
Pretty true. I'm just tilting because I can only survive so long anyway once self healing becomes ineffective, and would rather have more damage to keep up with these god damn hunters and dks...if that's even possible
coral axle
go arms if you want more damage
crisp mason
Pretty true. I'm just tilting because I can only survive so long anyway once sel...
as fury ur not keeping up with dks
@topaz tulip u doing mainly 2s or 3s
i would play arms if i had any idea how that spec works
to lazy to learn it atm
coral axle
doing damage as arms is honestly not much more complicated than fury
you have 3 buttons instead of 2, plus colossus smash as button 4 instead of odyns
crisp mason
idk maybe i give it another go is the build in pins still what people are running
topaz tulip
I might shift. I just never liked arms. Always bored me and I like the fast action on fury
just kind of sick of getting shitrolled because I couldn't out 2k more damage in one hit
coral axle
yeah I like fury at first because it felt like just mashing on people, but when I tried arms and hit back to back 100k+ crits my first game I was sold
when ur popping CDs as arms and u get crits u are bursting with the big boys
then you hit some mage for 200k with MS and post it to the discord
pure hornet
Fury is crap
crisp mason
any good arms for dummies guides out there
coral axle
Hamstring > Overpower x2 > storm bolt > avatar > colossus smash > spear > sharpen ms > bladestorm > ms > execute if needed until dead
You can take slam off your bars, use overpower and hamstring as fillers, sudden death procs are good to press when you get them, MS on cooldown, save sharpen for after colossus or if they are about to die from your partner
topaz tulip
last time i played arms was in legion. Is it still that clunky or no?
coral axle
Also be sure to use sweeping strikes before your CS if there is any chance you'll hit a second person during it, you can SS during ur charge animation and you'll be able to hamstring right away still
I don't find it clunky personally, it has empty globals but you fill them with hamstring
crisp mason
i assume u never ms with out 2 stacks of overpower
coral axle
Nah you definitely do if you get a proc, AFAIK it's always more dps to push MS on cooldown
But there are times in pvp you want to save it to surprise somebody with a bigger burst
crisp mason
yeah fair
coral axle
If you got colossus coming up in a couple seconds and ur ms is up, I'd hold onto the ms and stack op then because of the colossus modifier making it worth, but usually I just send it whenever it lights up
crisp mason
is talents in pins still what people use?
narrow shard
^
coral axle
Go check drustvar or murlok.io, they will let you see what all the top ppl are using in each mode
There are a few arms builds and the capstone talents especially come down to personal preference
Ex: playing the second bladestorm or reck
Warlords torment + double spear talents is my favorite build, maximum burst
crisp mason
wait whats the double spear talent
coral axle
I mean both the connecting talents from spear, not having a second spear unfortunately
crisp mason
lmao
i was like wait what we can have double spear how am i only just learning this lmao
coral axle
Some people will take just 1 or 0 and take either the Stam talent or the haste talent instead
crisp mason
time to re buy all my pvp gear for the 3rd time
lucky i got the crit/vers con wep and have not spent any other con
cursive pike
so why is arms getting a truckload of buffs. it doesnt seem that bad right now
muted surge
Yea it’s s+ tier atm
pure hornet
Cuz we deserve a short moment of hapyness
smoky anchor
is it worth it to ever focus an enh shammy
doesn't seem to slow down their dmg at all
open glacier
Its super squishy and barely has CC, now compare with rogue, dh, feral or dk. They have more tools, better defensives and dmg 😂
muted surge
is it worth it to ever focus an enh shammy
Well they only have 1 def cd and are kinda squishy
And the def cd seems bugged, at least in pve :<
fickle forge
Cuz we deserve a short moment of hapyness
Like all of SL 😎👍
graceful ginkgo
Arms buffs make no sense, there‘ll be oceans of tears
surreal compass
hey is it true that there is little difference between honor and conq gear ?
like 10% or something
steel trout
Arms buffs make no sense, there‘ll be oceans of tears
it makes perfect sense
graceful ginkgo
IP makes Arms OP
muted surge
Does it?
wheat jay
Like all of SL 😎👍
Excuse me?
One expansion is a long moment
He said short moment
Man's calling for warrior nerfs
hollow ore
Emerald Communion will no longer cancel if the Evoker is disoriented or feared during the channel.
Excuse me what the fuck
muted surge
Immunities are great for the game
loud forge
uh
is fury good in solo?
i climbed fast early season, but im fucking garbage now
literally doing no dmg anymore
what am i doing wrong lol
high kindle
what am i doing wrong lol
playing a warrior right now
loud forge
i just want my mog man
i was 50 rating off it
and i dropped 200 now
im getting destoryed in fury
is arms better?
bright quarry
is arms better?
yes
I use fury as my dgaf spec to grab rated honor from solo shuffle
arms will be even better next week too
loud forge
alright time to go arms then
im literally doing half the dmg of others atm as fury
where i was rly competitive in dmg early weeks
high kindle
they did not nerf fury dmg
bright quarry
yeah the damage shouldn't be an issue, the burst is
bright quarry
I don't pve so can't comment on that but my damage as a fury is roughly in line with people I play against in solo shuf
loud forge
idk it is and then it isnt for me
i feel inconsistent
ill just try arms
if it better why not
dark sparrow
Man I love RNG. 0/8 for tier pieces from vault this week
if only there was this thing we could use to create tier pieces
loud forge
one more week
dark sparrow
dark sparrow
one more week
yea hooray and than I got 1 tier piece instead of 0 but wait another week to activate the set bonus
quasi zephyr
crude bane
steel trout
normal men))
hard hound
Nothing new hunt pump from ages
fickle forge
Honestly he got outplayed there
fickle forge
what am i doing wrong lol
Post a VoD
flat dome
211k hunt followed by a 150k death sweep. All within a 1.5 second window. "Outplayed" lol
hard hound
2 different dh , one is illidangodx
So hight rated arena imo
You will never face them so don’t be afraid ^^
steel trout
Its same dh
steel trout
😂
flat dome
The hunt and deathsweep were both from guesswho
Imagine trying to throw shade while failing reading comprehension
hard hound
The hunt and deathsweep were both from guesswho
And ?
steel trout
When u get 3k ss u get damage increase 💯
hard hound
Yeah ofc they play better so they deal more
undone pumice
steel trout
Yeah ur enchants and demons procs lineup better when ur higher cr 💯
hard hound
You line damages with procs yeah
fickle forge
You get one tapped by low cr and high cr DHs alike
steel trout
Its just rng bro
mint osprey
is there a minimum haste I should aim for with arms?
steel trout
Any cr player can download weakauras
fickle forge
Pressing Hunt into EB/Sweep takes insane skill
steel trout
And wait for procs
hard hound
Its just rng bro
No rng if you keep cd for procs
steel trout
And what if ur proc never lines up with eachother..
hard hound
You Waite
steel trout
Ah yes
short sable
This is a great conversation
fickle forge
BiS convo
steel trout
Let’s play an entire arena without using cds 🫡
mint osprey
are we taking crit on every item possible?
fickle forge
I buy lottery tickets every Friday to practice my RNG. Makes it easier to deal with DHs players since they don't commit any CDs if their RNG procs don't line up 😎👍
steel trout
I buy lottery tickets every Friday to practice my RNG. Makes it easier to deal w...
Oh wow, what a smart man you are i should do the same!
hard hound
I just say rank 1 deal more than rivals what is hard to understand?
steel trout
It had nothing to do with the picture 🫡
fickle forge
Rank 1 also play better defensively though 🤔
steel trout
Never said it was, but ur point makes no sense to
elfin surge
hard hound
Everyone can link damages from someone else and say look this pump
steel trout
Everyone can link damages from someone else and say look this pump
???
copper hare
Yeah ur enchants and demons procs lineup better when ur higher cr 💯
You didn't know that? R1 abilities always do more damage. Vanguards already hitting for 600k decrees and 400k judgements
steel trout
i learn something new everyday from this discord 😎 💯
flat dome
I lose brain cells, personally
torpid roost
Got 2 braincells left, and they're both fighting for third place
steel trout
does that mean both ur braincells are good?
flat dome
I'm gonna go from zug zug, to just zug
hot hull
Hey what's up guys? I'm relatively new to warrior. I main ww monk but looking for a good pvp class to play (I suck at monk pvp). How is fury looking rn? I'm not a hardcore player, just wanna hit 1500 in arena and I'll be happy 🙂
I got my warrior up to 62 and been enjoying the rotation a lot
warm portal
Its not that good compared to other melee but you can easily crush 1500
hot hull
I been messing with unholy dk also but I just can't seem to get into it gameplay wise
Fury is fun
steel trout
play what u think is fun 💯
civic storm
Hey guys I’m old , have poor vision but refuse to stop playing this game… is there a weakaura that could help me see things like Ret wings or bubbles ? A sound queue or warning of some sort ?
steel trout
Hey guys I’m old , have poor vision but refuse to stop playing this game… is the...
mes has a weakaura for that
civic storm
I just type in mes in wago ?
warm portal
I dont think it shows pally bubble but BigDebuffs might be able to help you there?
civic storm
Bigdebuffs , ok I don’t have that. It won’t collide with any other addons ? I run gladiusex
steel trout
nah ur good
digital crater
How do you play when you're the only melee in the lobby? Had a game with Devoker, Rdruid, Feral, Prevoker and Frostmage
Permamently CC'd
Jesus
civic storm
Also THANKS SO MUCH
Has anyone tried or currently uses that “mes” WA ?
steel trout
i use it
civic storm
What do you think of it ? Helpful ?
steel trout
yes u get a warning for like every important cd in the game
digital crater
What do you think of it ? Helpful ?
I started PvP'ing this season and it helped a fucking ton
Helps you actually parse some of the 10000 bits of information tossed at you every second
civic storm
Oh man this is such good friggen news !!!
Been stuck at 1250 and struggling massively with timing my GOs properly
Great news !
Thanks again fellas ! Appreciate it big time !
digital crater
Started last week and I'm at 1500 now, but I'm really struggling with being the go-target
Feels like it's me every lobby
steel trout
How do you play when you're the only melee in the lobby? Had a game with Devoker...
run
digital crater
At them or away from them
civic storm
Started last week and I'm at 1500 now, but I'm _really_ struggling with being th...
SS or 2s or 3s ?
digital crater
SS
civic storm
Aren’t the queues really shit ?
digital crater
or u can go full smorc and then blame healer
I am going to sound like a fucking moron now but if I run away
How do I deal damage/have impact/zug
undone pumice
Also THANKS SO MUCH
Has anyone tried or currently uses that “mes” WA ?
it warns u of a lot of stuff like grounding, psyfiend, dmg cds, and then bigdebuffs shows you stuff like bubble and also wings and burst cds arena is really accessible with these WA and addons
digital crater
I get I want to play out of los, just feels like that's a fast-track to the enemy team ignoring me and me having zero impact
undone pumice
How do I deal damage/have impact/zug
u have impact by making them run like scooby doo around a pillar to try to hit u if they are trying to do thatz otherwise tou have impact by being alive
civic storm
it warns u of a lot of stuff like grounding, psyfiend, dmg cds, and then bigdebu...
Oh shit someone linked me a psy fiend one already , will this one interfere with that ?
civic storm
Ok sick I’ll delete the psy fiend one then and run mes
digital crater
How to disable minor pet nameplats in plater btw?
undone pumice
disable minor
civic storm
Not plater man
It’s in the wow options
Think it’s interface
The like minions
Or something
Not at pc rn
I had same problem and I got told it’s only removable through wow options , worked for me 👍🏻
undone pumice
interface > nameplates > minor
civic storm
Boom nice
undone pumice
i tgink thi sstill keeps totems n shit
digital crater
Thanks, thought that was it
steel trout
bicmex has a video abt it
digital crater
Any good videos on playing los correctly as a melee?
Probs the hardest thing to pick up on as a new player
steel trout
watch joefernandes, tay etc they stream a lot of shuffle
record ur games
try to pay attention to what they do in those lobbies and compare it to yourself
loud forge
holy shit
going from fury to arms
in solo
i have ascended
big fucking mortal memes
elfin surge
i have ascended
loud forge
is it me
or is DH fucking cancer
excuse my language
drives me up a fucking wall
how do u counter them
pseudo star
how to play against warlock in arenas?
if u go in he 1 shot by 10000 creeps
if u dont
he 1 shot by freecast
hard hound
depend of what spec of lock do you talk about
unreal zealot
Is there a description anywhere of what tsg should play like, just starting to do warrior 3s with dk friend and I’m pretty new to them
pseudo star
everytime i see warlock its demo
hard hound
Is there a description anywhere of what tsg should play like, just starting to d...
grip spear , big cleave
hard hound
everytime i see warlock its demo
kick tyran if you cant loss , kill obelisk
you can also fear tyran
unreal zealot
I think I read somewhere you don’t play the unhinged with cleaving onto pets, would I still keep that or go a different talent
hard hound
kick hand of gul dan
steel trout
stop them from casting when they have nether portal up
unreal zealot
Or if I ss do my unhinged mortals spread?
steel trout
so they dont get fatty pit lord
steel trout
I think I read somewhere you don’t play the unhinged with cleaving onto pets, wo...
u can play warlords torment and EP instead vs pet classes
hard hound
Or if I ss do my unhinged mortals spread?
play unhing vs everyone exept dk and demono
steel trout
bm too
hard hound
( all pets class )
unreal zealot
Maybe I’m overthinking I just always see me doing way less damage than my dk so I’m thinking I must be doing something wrong
steel trout
dk does a lot of dam but its also a lot of padding
hard hound
Maybe I’m overthinking I just always see me doing way less damage than my dk so ...
you will alwayse do less damages than you dk
your win condition is to cleave a lot
unreal zealot
Okay and I guess my big value is the ms and sharpen
hard hound
yeah
late nacelle
90k colossus smash into 110k spear into 150k MS
late nacelle
I dont think I've ever onetapped someone like this before
flat dome
i have ascended
rotund magnet
new patch notes feel amazing for warrior. shiiiiet
grand scaffold
just lost 45 rating
for 2/6
but when i win 2/2 due to someone losing
+11 rating
wtf is this shit
grand scaffold
but when i win 2/2 due to someone losing
leaving*
loud forge
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
the most tilting experience i had in my life
i got put into a solo q with 4 paladins
2 prots
2 rets
and a lock
????????
why is this even a thing
brazen rock
vestal quail
Yea that sounds like a shit time for the lock more than anything
vestal quail
Yea fair that sounds annoying
loud forge
explain to me how i should survive vs 2 palas and a lock when i dont have any heals>?
ahhhh
why are tanks allowed in solo q
cringe
vestal quail
Second wind and run? 😂
loud forge
run forrest run
sturdy yew
just lost 45 rating
doesnt that make sense tho? u won 2/6 and next game won 2/4?
muted surge
Gz
grand scaffold
and gotten -50 rating each time
muted surge
?
grand scaffold
now at 2110
warm portal
Don't look at your rating
digital crater
If an Evoker starts casting communion while not cc'd, can I stun them out of it?
grand scaffold
Don't look at your rating
why
warm portal
If an Evoker starts casting communion while not cc'd, can I stun them out of it?
Fear
But that changes on Tuesday
digital crater
But that changes on Tuesday
Changes how?
grand scaffold
quit playing for the day?
warm portal
Changes how?
Itll essentially function like druid tranq after Tuesday I believe. Meaning you won't be able to stop them anymore
flat tide
128k is that all you got?
full quiver
scarlet barn
grand scaffold
im so bumbed out
amber harness
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVVUVFEQUEQlhEQUBROVURRVRQYVCYVAQCQA
this is what I would try with 10.0.5
what would you guys change?
full quiver
Why u doing shuffled instead of rated is real question
torpid roost
Tuesday is for 2500
grand scaffold
Why u doing shuffled instead of rated is real question
no friends
people i have on my friends list are generally garbo
or play rbg's
or are busy
torpid roost
My friends list is massive
quasi lotus
going back to warlock
torpid roost
They're all garbage or much better than me
grand scaffold
the only person on my friends list thats like seriously good and arenas is my r1 rdru
but he doesnt play that much
full quiver
What about guy who got u into wow
torpid roost
You should send him to me
grand scaffold
What about guy who got u into wow
he rbg's
hes really good tho
been elite 2x
hit 2400 on sp
2400 on dk
2300 on boomy
way better than me generally speaking
i am better at lock and warrior than him tho
clear pine
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVVUVFEQUEQlhEQUBROVURRV...
I would not play a bleed build
amber harness
I would not play a bleed build
SkS insane
rancid granite
what's wrong with solo shuffle
I afk randomly and play at random times so I don't want to o other modes
grand scaffold
I afk randomly and play at random times so I don't want to o other modes
the thing thats wrong with it
is that you lose more points per loss and points per win
at proper mmr
its fucking stupid
and i fucking hate solo shuffle atm
just lost 210 points
steel trout
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVVUVFEQUEQlhEQUBROVURRV...
prob drop bloodletting for battlelord
u also dont have dreadnaught
quaint snow
solo shuffle Depression kicks in
steel trout
or improved op
rancid granite
meh same I was 3 points away from my 1800 trabsmog and went down to 1500 :'(
full quiver
What the heck
rancid granite
but can't stop won't stop
quaint snow
its just a game bro
steel trout
ull get it bro
grand scaffold
then i tanked 200 points
grand scaffold
what did you drop from
steel trout
2500 to 2050 or some shit
grand scaffold
dude
steel trout
now im like 2380? but my mmr is good again
grand scaffold
i know ill get back the cr
but like
im depressed af atm
like tomorrow ill be back
steel trout
dont associate ur selfworth with ur cr...
quaint snow
either you q up again to get you a good feel
or leave it be and do smth else tonight
🙂
grand scaffold
i guess
steel trout
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAQBVVUVFEQUEQlhEQUBROVURRV...
sth like this berhaps))
quaint snow
A: can also drop you more CR so its dangerous xD
grand scaffold
dont associate ur selfworth with ur cr...
can you send me your build btw
i dont know if i wanna continue using mine
steel trout
can do
royal lake
What's the addon that shows what buffs/debuffs are affecting targets?
steel trout
can you send me your build btw
grand scaffold
is that what you got to 2500 with?
steel trout
basically yes
grand scaffold
wow
steel trout
played some endurance training etc too
grand scaffold
oh ok
steel trout
🤷♂️ idk whats best
grand scaffold
should i be using that?
steel trout
its up to you really
steel trout
blizos argument for it was that the reason why u want most survivability possible is the longer u can stay in bstance = better
but idk i felt no diff rly still die like a dog no matter what 🤷♂️
steel trout
yes i think u have same talents as i did when i was trying it
quaint snow
grand scaffold
yes i think u have same talents as i did when i was trying it
ok
what did you have more success with
steel trout
i have no idea
i lose games with both builds i win games with both builds
its so hard to tell for me cuz im not good enough 🤷♂️
grand scaffold
alright when you got to 2500 what did you use
well you are better than me
my xp is 2440 as fury
and 2256 as arms
steel trout
id just look at joefernandes, magnusz, mud and ask them instead 😂
grand scaffold
@elfin surge hope you dont mine being pinged
what build should i run man
i just tanked from 2256 to 2060
D:
late nacelle
No bleed no bladestorm build
steel trout
all the good warrs play slightly different talents so i dont think it makes a huge difference picking between wildstrikes and endurance training lol
elfin surge
what build should i run man
the mud build
grand scaffold
can you send it to me?
quasi lotus
its not the build it's the mindset
grand scaffold
its not the build it's the mindset
my mindset atm is unhappy
quasi lotus
you gotta slam monster energy drinks and dm egirls before you copy muds build
only then can you channel his energy
steel trout
he did yesterday
grand scaffold
what did he drop to use it
amber harness
prob drop bloodletting for battlelord
no either commit fully into bleed or not at all
quaint snow
xD
steel trout
no either commit fully into bleed or not at all
u dont need to on 10.0.5
amber harness
?
amber harness
you cant play fully overpower specced and get maximum sks burst at the same time
sks alone is trash
full quiver
you gotta slam monster energy drinks and dm egirls before you copy muds build
U also need to play 2s and mald for a couple hours
steel trout
you cant play fully overpower specced and get maximum sks burst at the same time
u dont need to play full sks burst
u can get op talents + tide and sks
fierce elm
Yall want a good game, go play League of Legends solo queue
amber harness
wdym need
steel trout
for sks to be good
amber harness
I find a 100-180k burst much more useful than the tiny overpower hits
steel trout
u lose so much good shit to play full sks dam
amber harness
no
steel trout
ok lol
amber harness
a fully specced bleed does a lot of dmg
vs it not being specced
it also does dmg while youre being kited
and you do way more burst in your goes
than with OP
amber harness
you dont lose a single thing for ms?