yeah im not a fan of how it is now, i've had several games where i won 4 or 5 rounds and got nothing because the mmr of other's are lower than mine.
Just feels like wasted time if i in a rated game can't gain any rating, only lose
#pvp
minor heath
digital crater
Am I going overboard on crit, you guys reckon?
lucid walrus
nah
minor heath
For arms, if neither OP or MS is up, what do u sink rage in to? Slam? I feel so weird hitting slam because the damage is so bad but there's no other good alternatives
steel trout
can always refresh hamstring
flat dome
Rend
minor heath
hmm, what would u drop for rend?
warm portal
Nothing rend sucks
flat dome
Unless you are bleed build
minor heath
what i use now
crude bane
how the warrior do so much damage in veruki clip?
like my ms crit for 70 K max
spear 80 K
minor heath
how the warrior do so much damage in veruki clip?
do u set up colossus smash/overpower stacks/spear/sharpen before? I've hit 200k on dummies
steel trout
hmm, what would u drop for rend?
fueled by violence
crude bane
try havoc build
scarlet barn
Take a mandatory break
south kestrel
yep
idk what it is but once i get to that rating, people just dont call anything
no comms
DK calls MM one round then never grips him once
elfin surge
hmm, what would u drop for rend?
i swear fueled is garbage
someone link me details showing its healing
i am unconvinced
minor heath
i dunno, im giving up a lot of healing looking at my details from my last shuffle
south kestrel
my details did about 200k healing in the last round i did
and it lasted quite a while
elfin surge
i dunno, im giving up a lot of healing looking at my details from my last shuffl...
rend is good
nobody believes me
south kestrel
I do
minor heath
i believe u, but i already feel low on sustainability to give up 21% self healing
brazen rock
hmm, what would u drop for rend?
fueled by violence because it literally does nothing and rend is still better to press then slam when you run out of procs to op/ms.
also rend fucks in longer games
elfin surge
rend spends rage, resets csmash and feeds tactician procs
rend usually around 8% of my overall dam
who needs healing anyway
just blame healer
minor heath
aight ty, i'll give it a try see how it plays - i could always be better at using imp victory, i press that button way to little
elfin surge
its their job anyways
hot rain
south kestrel
pally wins that
warm portal
Theres going to be nothing left of the warrior after that
warped warren
rend spends rage, resets csmash and feeds tactician procs
so does ip in a week 
elfin surge
so does ip in a week <:critcake:984549832511344640>
tru
warm portal
Just keep queuing itll make you better
You have a long time to get 1800 and it'll probably only get easier over time due to your experience and inflation
surreal compass
yes
elfin surge
tempted to just stop playing until then lol
weak.
steep inlet
surreal compass
is there a war supply crate addon by any chance
elfin surge
I desire the rating so bad
improve.
south kestrel
I believe i have, just a little more to crack the code
elfin surge
I believe i have, just a little more to crack the code
have you posted any games in the #810664169140518947 ?
pure hornet
rend spends rage, resets csmash and feeds tactician procs
Is ep better or do you mainly go unhinged
elfin surge
Is ep better or do you mainly go unhinged
unhinged when i can
but so many pet comps like dks and demos
cant play into them
so then i go ep
pure hornet
Why not go full ms strikes?
With blademaster torment
Sof
Sod
Storm of destruction
Mud?
pure hornet
cant play into them
You go warlord torment for burst?
flat dome
3 ilvl upgrade or token of merit for socket
small silo
have they shown the tabard or enchant yet for pvp?
next herald
Guys i have the Feeling i cant do Shit against ele in SS what can i do? Im getting Always kited
agile aspen
why is adaption trinket still in the game
viscid pecan
ret warr in 2's?
muted surge
RET just randomly taps people
undone pumice
retwarr tsg, healer in 2s, shrek cleave pretty good too
wooden shrekcleave even better
kitty
slender plume
If you're playing Rend build how much crit are you looking for
grand scaffold
huh
hard thistle
Okay Warrior brothers and sisters I need your help. Tier helm with no vers or upgrade aspirant shoulders and convert them to tier shoulders when the catalyst is online?
helm would give me 2 set
late nacelle
If u gonna game a lot
This week
Then take the helm
If not
Dont take
Long term? Dont take
hard thistle
Losing 401 vers feels like it's going to hurt a lot. I wish it was the shoulders or legs tier pieces instead. Thanks for the advice!
late nacelle
Its not too rough since we get 2% vers off talents
But its still not one of the four tier pieces u want later down the line anyway
warm portal
I would take shoulders. Next week you can turn it into tier set
And tier shoulders are haste/vers
late nacelle
First time 2100?
hard thistle
@late nacelle @warm portal thank you both I appreciate it! 🙂
grand scaffold
First time 2100?
i got it yesterday
and again today
and 2 weeks ago
and every season of sl
and elite in s2
grand scaffold
First time 2100?
but i gotta say dropping from 2100
bad feeling
i had a quick question
can you run thunderclap in rbg's
seems like a good idea
but idk
steep inlet
wtf
undone pumice
can you run thunderclap in rbg's
mby if going super aoe
grand scaffold
ok
undone pumice
sod, bs, hurricane, thunderclap, rend
late nacelle
Its not worth it
Play to your strengths, target caller kill someone. Dont try to be something you're not. Other classes do it better
grand scaffold
ok
i was just thinking spreading rend that fast would be good
like the way assa spreads rupture and garrot with that 45 sec cd
smoky anchor
YUUUUUUGE upgrade finally got 2 pc
shoot wha tmodifiers are there in total for ms crits now
is it just tier set?
cosmic rover
is it worth using my shit normal tierset in pvp?
agile crow
are PVP arms warriors supposed to go for any set piece?
cosmic rover
yeah
agile crow
but I don't know how much ilvl its worth sacrificing for
it's 424 though isn't it?
smoky anchor
are PVP arms warriors supposed to go for any set piece?
yeah, 2 pc at least, yuge, however, not sure on 4pc, it looks alright
cosmic rover
it's 424 though isn't it?
if you get it from pvp yeah if you get it form pve no
smoky anchor
it's 424 though isn't it?
he has pve tier, which doesn't uypgrade to 424
cosmic rover
I got my tier pieces from raid can't afford to use weekly vault on pvp yet
smoky anchor
yes, for multiple reasons, but it being tier is one of them
agile crow
my PVE options are total trash this week so I'm gonna take that I think
smoky anchor
ideally you take more expensive shit from the vault anyway since conquest is capped at the moment
smoky anchor
also yeah you can upgrade pvp tier to the same ilvl as regular pve gear if i'm not mistaken. just need i think 2400 rating.
actually it only goes up to 408
hard thistle
I'm jelly pvp legs are def the way to go imo
smoky anchor
m+ goes up to 421 from teh vault, that's amazin
coral axle
yeah being able to eventually get a full 408 set from pvp is a good start point tho
flat dome
Versality is an underappreciated stat for mythics
cosmic rover
I play prot in PVE so
but not sure on the value of ILvl vs Tier set for arms in pve
smoky anchor
Versality is an underappreciated stat for mythics
surprisingly a lot of one shots on fortified lol
crude bane
im that lucky having 2 tier week 2 ?
smoky anchor
im that lucky having 2 tier week 2 ?
ya super lucky
coral axle
dodging one shots because you have 25% vers via pvp gear is cash money
crude bane
actuially
smoky anchor
super cash
warm portal
m+ goes up to 421 from teh vault, that's amazin
Yeah I have 408 pvp gear and I'm already replacing some of it in my PvE set because of that
PvE players eating good with the vault rewards tbh
warm portal
do i buy every crit vers pvp piece for arms ?
You can do whatever you feel comfortable with. Both work fine
If you target full crit you'll still have mandatory haste pieces like from tier
tranquil hemlock
finally got one piece tier out of vault lol
grand scaffold
you have to be joking me
that dk
was 0 cr
in a 2100 lobby
what is that
like honestly
blizzard wtf
people should be starting at not higher than 1700
smoky anchor
people should be starting at not higher than 1700
He's not just starting, he was spam leaving
grand scaffold
He's not just starting, he was spam leaving
so cringe
coral axle
if the dude is good enough to go 3-3 in a 2100 lobby then hes exactly where he should be
thats the whole point behind MMR systems, they aim to push you to a 50% WR
next sandal
turbid ember
Anyone else get where their queue will pop within 5 minutes but if someone declines then it won't be until 20+ min? You supposed to just requeue if that happens?
clear mountain
is ignore pain in? am i blind?
clear mountain
the 24th?
digital crater
Getting really conflicting info, does 2v2 reward with the elite set?
I know you cant get glad shit
undone pumice
yes
digital crater
That is so weird
Why does it only give some of the rewards? Would make more sense if it gave nothing at all
Thanks for the info
elfin surge
you just cant get gladiator in 2s
undone pumice
u owned a keyboard and played the game in that ssn
elfin surge
based
undone pumice
but glad or r1 is impressive and gives smth cool cuz it is impressive
mount = cool
mog = not as cool
elfin surge
1800 is too low esp with how inflated solo shuffle has gotten
undone pumice
then did nothing until bfa s4
green wyvern
1600 3s = 2400 shuffle
undone pumice
based
elfin surge
bassy a 1550xp feral is 3k in shuffle
elfin surge
undone pumice
but shrek cleave is so boring
elfin surge
undone pumice
playing with melee turbo gas pedal
inshallah it is 1000x more fun to play cleaves than hybrid
undone pumice
i mean playing with my mate
i have more fun playing with 2nd melee
than with casters
devoker rdru arms
evoker gets stacks, spear, gg or gg
mystic barn
I like hybrid comp since the caster can get kicks on the healer
undone pumice
healers arent real
mystic barn
also feels like less brain rot as a comp
undone pumice
turbid ember
Is it even really a comp unless its double melee cleave in mid?
torpid roost
Yeah, be less warriory, have an rdru
Havoc is still strongish, be warned though, you can actually die now
low cobalt
anyone know the upcomming changes to arms? trying to find the notes but dont see it
bahjeera keeps mentioning it jw
coral axle
iirc the most important ones is ignore pain being added, sweeping strikes baseline, and one of the 2 point talent nodes is becoming 1 point
low cobalt
ah ok, thanks
coral axle
and I think sharpen is getting a 5% ms nerf or something idk
mystic barn
nice my crits average for 2k
thick cove
should i craft the belt or bracer with my spark? 418 ilvl. i need both a belt and a bracer
thick cove
what is our best armor kit for healers?
we dont really have one do we?
oh its spellthread i think
late nacelle
Wrong discord
keen zephyr
how much haste is the rec for arms? or just max crit?
uneven turret
421 crit/vers chest (trophy) vs 424 haste/vers chest (conquest) ?
i guess the standard setup would be chest/pants/glove/shoulder 4p tier + crafted helm?
lavish heron
mild thunder
imo haste and crit are close enough that id always prioiritise ilev
warm portal
what is our best armor kit for healers?
You prob already got your answer but temporal spellthread
pure hornet
havoc or unh solid
Mud ,should i play a bit all classes to understant theyre weakneses? Or no need? Should i just arena and i can catch up with time
?
turbid ember
It obviously will help, but most people can't be fucked
coral axle
getting every class to 70 is a bit much yeah
pure hornet
I meant, it might take weeks to level all classes, play a bit with them and understand skills /weakeness in pvp. And with taht time if i train 6-8 hours a day on warrior only i might get better reflexes and with time i cand understand anyway what are the game changers
Thats what i meant
warm portal
If you have the time to invest itll help. But if you dont then just play as much warrior as you possibly can lol
coral axle
yeah it certainly cant hurt. another thing you can do is watch PoV videos of the spec ur curious about, or ask some of it's mains what they think
mental kindle
What really helped me was that arena weak aura that would tell me when the enemy pops big cool downs
It's a start
slender lion
is swapping sweeping strikes for skull splitter alright?
coral axle
I meant, it might take weeks to level all classes, play a bit with them and unde...
do you have the mes weakaura pack and bigdebuffs?
mild thunder
is swapping sweeping strikes for skull splitter alright?
pretty much never worth
sks sucks
slender lion
but if your on ST then sweeping strikes feels like a wasted point 😦 anything else thats gonna be better?
mild thunder
even in most ST situations, like a 2s matchup, you get a lot out of forcing them to stack and cleavingf
slender lion
ok fair
coral axle
catching two people in spear with SS is like the most broken thing arms can do
especially if you have another zugzug cleave teammate
slender lion
catching two people in spear with SS is like the most broken thing arms can do
that sounds like a wet dream
i seen bajheeras clip of double spear X
XD
cant believe how much arms feels like it absolutely slaps compared too fury
coral axle
yeah the pressure is real
warm portal
And then you get attacked by literally anything
Now how do you feel about arms vs fury
slender lion
And then you get attacked by literally anything
Now how do you feel about arms ...
yeah fury feels way better survival wise
however if you have a switched on healer
people literally run away from you
cause the hits hurt
you just chunk people down
warm portal
Oh yeah for sure. 100k spear into 150k ms into 120k execute within 3 globals
Big dam
pure hornet
I get trained very very often
mental kindle
Oh yeah for sure. 100k spear into 150k ms into 120k execute within 3 globals
I landed that for the first time last night and my God
All 3 critting
pure hornet
do you have the mes weakaura pack and bigdebuffs?
Big deb yes. Mes too but atm i have kiks
mild thunder
I get trained very very often
most solo shuffles were me getting trained 
especially casters
only time i didnt get targeted was if people figured out the weak link in the lobby
quasi lotus
gotta randomly crit something down quickly round 1
get them identified as weak link before you do
bonus points if after you win you immediately say "go ret he's trash" in the next lobby even if the ret is your teammate this time
thick reef
get them identified as weak link before you do
so true cuz if u dont then u just get trained by everyone and it saids
slender lion
so true cuz if u dont then u just get trained by everyone and it saids
yeah i done 2s as fury with my DK friend and got trained instant
was sadge
coral axle
gotta randomly crit something down quickly round 1
Just did this to a destro round 1 who turned out to be one of the best players in the lobby, but because I crit him 5x in a row first round he got trained for 5 straight
Feels good
gaunt scaffold
is the crit build the meta build or does deeps wounds work as well?
mild thunder
there really isnt a way to make a deep wounds build
it'll do the same damage no matter what, but yea crit is best
gaunt scaffold
gotcha so i assume crit/vers
warm portal
Yes
scarlet sorrel
do you guys notice that people in the 1800-2100 bracket are toxic AF? its a bit better 2100+ but for some reason in 1900 there are so many really really sad people
digital crater
What things are most worth bitter immunity-ing? I find myself mostly using it for the heal tbh
pure hornet
I just dont understand… why all figured to train warrior? I get trained 50% ++ of times
warm portal
More warriors playing arms
mild thunder
do you guys notice that people in the 1800-2100 bracket are toxic AF? its a bit ...
extremely
had an sp last night that was going ballistic, told the healer to kill themselves, blamed everyone etc
went 0-6 
mild thunder
how do you go 0-6 as sp
high star
real talk tho i got a pvp tier piece from vault
and i have 2 pve tier pieces already, should I just run a 390 pve piece to get 2 set now? or is that stat loss from no pvp scaling still not worth u guys think
thick reef
yeah i done 2s as fury with my DK friend and got trained instant
rip yea fury feels bad rn
slender lion
rip yea fury feels bad rn
think it was just cause i can be stun locked and killed quick, dk just cant be lol
thick reef
yeah dk is insane rn
nimble jasper
I just dont understand… why all figured to train warrior? I get trained 50% ++ o...
good kill target
if I see a warrior leap in the first 10 seconds of the game I train him tbh
cuz i know hes dumb af
thick reef
ye and u farm rounds off him
nimble jasper
i didnt bother going smex the game i had with him
thick reef
how do you go 0-6 as sp <:sadge:820202363359854633>
rip feels bad but since he was toxic he deserves it kekw
nimble jasper
cuz i know he generally understands how the game works
high star
thats my weakness
thick reef
being trained?
high star
dont understand evoker at all
thick reef
oh same
high star
not understanding how game works anymore kek
im still wod warrior andy
nintendo controller player
clever mango
fellas
what do
I got offered a tier chest, crit/vers ring, and badge in my vault
Already have glad chest and crit/vers ring
scarlet sorrel
yea I have a problem running away, it feels reductive... but again have to just make the mental shift
nimble jasper
yea I have a problem running away, it feels reductive... but again have to just ...
You have to grasp
when you’re in danger
high star
losing MS uptime definitely sucks
nimble jasper
and when you’re not
high star
but ^
scarlet sorrel
yea. that is exact dilemma. just trying to break the habbit
scarlet sorrel
i think learning how to live is the way out of the hellscape that is 1800-2100
which is where I am now stuck 🙂
nimble jasper
not wrong
high star
ye denying damage can lead to CD advantage
nimble jasper
thats how I generally get classes with high burst up easier
you just pick off people who are playing defensively bad
high star
which is generally how you win in higher skill bracket bc people aren't just going to throw games
nimble jasper
tho the worst is greeding cds cuz you forget low rated healers
high star
destro lock meta is best time to learn how to play defensive as warrior kek
nimble jasper
dont press buttons
“yeah healer isnt in cc and in los we good”
jk guy’s afk
xddd
high star
feels like solo is mostly scripted from my exp like sub 2200
if you are target you use cds, then healer, yada yada
nimble jasper
its a thing I noticed
high star
that sounds crazy
nimble jasper
from sl onwards
high star
but like idk game is so different since i last played
mild thunder
its a 4 point dump for them to get clone, not really worth in mongo shuffles a lot of the time
high star
no omen?
late nacelle
Did they fix warlock exploit yet
nimble jasper
its a 4 point dump for them to get clone, not really worth in mongo shuffles a l...
prob better at higher rating
rdruids when i tell them to clone enemy team on cds
nah guess i just have to wall rando pve dam cuz you cant press buttons
🙂
dark sparrow
Yea clone in shuffle is defo not worth as feral
nimble jasper
ngl ik people say sub is prob the most mald worthy spec in shuffle
not cuz its bad
but because people waste drs
like nothing
mild thunder
prob better at higher rating
you'll see it a lot more in .0.5 with the druid tree changes
they're gonna be able to pick up pretty much everything, as well as feral having higher damage
cant wait
slender lion
what is ele shammy O_O
mild thunder
what is ele shammy O_O
fun
nimble jasper
you'll see it a lot more in .0.5 with the druid tree changes
im just waiting for catalyst
and everyone realizes how dumb outlaw with 4p
just get smacked by ambush for 50k
mortal elm
so feral cleave op in shuffle?
nimble jasper
can be yeah
dapper cypress
Guys playing arms with ret
Against bm and holy priest
Killing priest he ressurects
Trying again to kill, we fail
Should we switch afterwards on bm?
Resto shamy dh
Trying to kill dh, with perfect stun and fear on heal he does stasis.
Trying to go on heal shamy, we cant kill him
Should we stay on dh?
Yeah i suck between 1100 and 1200
nimble jasper
Guys playing arms with ret
Against bm and holy priest
Killing priest he ressurec...
if hes playing rez dont let him heal during angel form
else he comes back higher hp
dapper cypress
:😱 we absolutely ignored him
Still possible to stun and kick?
mild thunder
have they shown the elite tabard yet?
turbid ember
Do you guys use Spear as an @mouseover?
open glacier
I found a new motivation to uninstall the game: evoker+bm in 2s
holy shit the lowest uptime in my life
it was disgusting
mild thunder
Do you guys use Spear as an @mouseover?
i do, but i dont think most people do
gaunt scaffold
do upgrading honor gear do anything for pvp?
scenic needle
do upgrading honor gear do anything for pvp?
no
gaunt scaffold
perfect so buy and go
scenic needle
yup! it's a great expansion to quickly get setup and pvp
gaunt scaffold
thank you!
mild thunder
SL gearing is a distant memory 
mystic barn
have they shown the elite tabard yet?
Yes
mystic barn
it’s on wowhead
mild thunder
1 more week
queen peak
Does socketed gear from vault work in arenas?
mild thunder
yes
queen peak
Cool thanks.
covert storm
drifting jacinth
Is the arms 4 set a must have in pvp?
tardy flame
Prot isn't viable in RBG.
4 set is not a "must have"
drifting jacinth
but if I have it should I be using it or conquest gear?
tardy flame
I wouldn't sacrifice too many ilevels for it
long ridge
boys what do i get? I have 421 shoulders, 411 trinkets. Alrdy have legs.
tardy flame
Are you a human and going to use the insignia? If not, def shoulders. If yes, then probably still shoulders
long ridge
i'm Dark Iron.
tardy flame
Also I am missing legs for 4 pc, so I am super jealous of your PvP tier legs
tardy flame
I have PvP gloves and use 415 PvE shoulders
411 PvE helm, but I don't use that yet. Might when I get 4 pc...
13 ilevels is a lot though, so I might just stick with 2 pc for a while
long ridge
yeah but 4 piece may be worth it
coarse portal
My Great Vault loves to torture me
I replace my chest piece with conquest one, and I get the set piece chest for pvp
and it's the best thing to get toooooo
tardy flame
I feel you. I spent my first conquest on a 2H, and have been offered a 2H every week since
coarse portal
I haven't been offered a single weapon
but I'm like, "ok so what piece do i get now" I'm gonna get a ring this week so I can at least not get a set piece replacing a new conquest piece LOL
tardy flame
I got a ring with a socket one week. That was nice
My ring luck is insane. Have a speed + socket ring auto attack damage ring from CoS
coarse portal
LOL we in the club together
copper hare
I replace my chest piece with conquest one, and I get the set piece chest for pv...
But why do you buy a chest piece before gettin an off piece when you know tier can drop in the vault
coarse portal
I didn't think it through obviously
mystic barn
because you might as well stock some up for making your own tier and having it ready
coarse portal
I had a honor chest I wanted to replace
mystic barn
next week i get 4th piece ez
coarse portal
Well, at least I can get 4 piece next week as well, I think ima just not spend my conquest this week LOL
mystic barn
ye im not spending conq this week but will next week on shoulders then make them into tier for 4th piece
if i dont get one from vault
tardy flame
Does conquest uncap next week?
fair tide
rofl I got AA in ashran
some dudes like "great another warrior throw"
as I proceed to solo trem
and win the game
mild thunder
But why do you buy a chest piece before gettin an off piece when you know tier c...
what lucky bastard actually gets tier from vault?
weak swallow
pisscunt deserves his cr loss KEK
fair tide
only 81k?
copper hare
I think my favorite buff ever
fair tide
I remember one feral trying to say "the damage is only high cause you're around me" ...
copper hare
yeah they also say "it's only pad on pets"
but they always do 50-60k+ whenever there is not a single pet in the round
weird
brazen rock
its like hunter excuses when they die in m+
copper hare
weak swallow
its the pets!!11
mystic barn
dude a feral bled a rdruid and the feral hopped away onto the lock, the rdruid ticked from 100% to 30% and I’m like wtf
the feral didn’t even notice, bc I’m the only one who swapped
really weird
copper hare
dude a feral bled a rdruid and the feral hopped away onto the lock, the rdruid t...
IT'S JUST THE PETS THOUGH
mystic barn
IT'S JUST THE PETS THOUGH
I had 2 nameplate cleave shuffle matches earlier today
Feral gapped me by 10m damage on details
weak swallow
Feral
has 4000 stuns
outdps's assassin rogue in dot and bleed
its the pets
mystic barn
mystic barn
Nah
copper hare
The interesting thing about the 3% feral buff last week
feral was already in the higher mid tier in pve
it didn't even make sense
mystic barn
I like getting griefed by ferals
teal surge
How big is 4 set for pvp?
Or should I go for 411 ilvl instead of using normal set pieces
fair tide
Or should I go for 411 ilvl instead of using normal set pieces
use 411
the stam and other stat loss is not worth 5%
teal surge
is 2p worth at all for 10% crit chance?
spice hornet
yes
long ridge
yes
teal surge
I see, ty
fair tide
2p is very good
but dont break your pvp gear for 4set
just keep farming vault until you're blessed
teal surge
Cool, thanks 🙂
uneven turret
@@
thorn herald
tfw 4 set from vault all pvp gear
copper hare
is 2p worth at all for 10% crit chance?
it's not only crit, it's also 10% damage
trail crown
first time playing warr since bfa
caster group, get trained whole game
2nd one was 5-1 tho in ss so cant complain
any tips on dealing with being trained?
hardy wave
Nothing like the druid healer cycloning the kill target during spear.
long ridge
wear emblem, go def stance, leap away, good use of fear, line of sight
mild thunder
any tips on dealing with being trained?
like azur said, often your best defensive is leap
jump to a pillar near your healer and los until you recover a bit
mild thunder
1 more week
flat dome
Feral is just insane
spice hornet
i wish we had enduring blow'
mild thunder
i fucking hated EB
spice hornet
why
mild thunder
ruined the ST rotation in raid
mild thunder
you barely got to press exe under 35%
copper hare
I don't know, colo smash already working with anger management and also having more duration is already pretty nuts
spice hornet
hahha but big MS with mortal combo procs was FUN
copper hare
gonna be huge next week with an actual rage spender
spice hornet
yeah true, that may be why EB was not put in
mild thunder
id definitely rather battlelord that smooths our rotation out than EB
copper hare
you gotta watch your rage bar sometimes, it's insane how many times you're like stuck at 100 rage and it's impossible to spend it
spice hornet
yeah its dumb
mild thunder
gonna be huge next week with an actual rage spender
its going to be minimum 4 seconds more off every CS cd
mild thunder
that would be busted lol
spice hornet
that'd be so nice
copper hare
imagine feeling like a lock once
flat dome
If you're running bleed build, thunderclap actually kinda slaps
fair tide
give me back mop second wind 😄
copper hare
you wouldn't even notice it in the current meta
ignore pain's value gonna be waaay better
fair tide
finally, something to drop all of this rage into
brazen rock
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=202095/indomitable
imagine this playing bt fury
heal for 8% every rampage
brazen rock
long ridge
lol
mild thunder
my ret partner just randomly kills the target we arent even going on
are you pushing as ret/warr in 3s?
spice hornet
was helping my ret buddys healer friend but I probably will
3s just seems very deflated
spice hornet
yeah just low participation fought the same like 2-3 teams all morning
stopped and went back to shuff
the boosters just sign up to your LFG group now
mild thunder
whats your shuff rating at now?
spice hornet
2505
mild thunder
niceee... im kinda nervous to keep on pushing, but wanna see if i can push up to 2500-2600
mild thunder
yea that happened heaps when i was around 2200
or i was getting lobbies where everyone was ~200 rating lower and getting almost no rating for wins
smoky anchor
if the dude is good enough to go 3-3 in a 2100 lobby then hes exactly where he s...
he didn't go 3-3 he went 0-6
coral axle
No? The 1900 sham did
smoky anchor
oh i see what you're saying
the 0 cr guy
is right where he needs to be
thought you were respodiing to me
spice hornet
this is what wrath LFG looks like on day 1 of season
wanton sun
is there a resource that shows what some good compositions are for various classes?
violet fossil
this is what wrath LFG looks like on day 1 of season
wtf
mild thunder
isnt that because its realm-locked?
spice hornet
wrath is like 99% noob pvers
and yeah no xrealm queueing
pretty pathetic regardless tho given im on a large locked server
modern grail
i was 1600 after 30 rounds on a new warrior, but i keep getting stomped today back down to 1350 lmao why am I so bad
1900 ss on enh and ele but got bored with the class cause it always gets trained
flat dome
A dk literally just through a match and just stood there cause ferals are OP
threw*
Didn't wanna bother trying
oblique umbra
fury
cursive pike
this is what wrath LFG looks like on day 1 of season
So it's official. Wrath pvp wasn't that great. All nostalgia
craggy socket
Jesus christ people are 3100 in solo q
im 1600 LOL
man talk about bad
1850 peak
flat dome
3100 is like 2400 in 3s
mild venture
man talk about bad
I'm at 845 right now, I kind of like it down here. Everyone is a floater.
modern grail
idk how to do damage on this spec, makes no sense. i'm sitting like 18k while everyone else is at 25k average
spice hornet
let me pilot you
craggy socket
idk what that means
spice hornet
mild thunder
bruh
brazen rock
plush forge
modern grail
I actually just dropped to 1550
glad i'm not alone
maybe that's just tuesdays for you. bad day to spam queue
brazen rock
craggy socket
I wonder if they gonna nerf rets lol
mild thunder
spice hornet
prot warr takes too much damage from spells
i remember in prepatch i did a shuff at like 1400 mmr as prot and a destro 1 shotted me with an incinerate
i was in full duelist
urban skiff
is turboshit good or bad?
south kestrel
Whats the best way to counter monks
mild thunder
Whats the best way to counter monks
save bolt for fists
lean burrow
fists of fury every 10 seconds
mild thunder
lol i bet
south kestrel
assume its never worth disarming monk
south kestrel
whys that
mild thunder
doesnt really stop their major burst
radiant decree + final reck
and most of the time they're running final verdict into warriors too
south kestrel
What talent would you run instead
mild thunder
into ret/ww id probably run storm of destruction (with unhinged) and banner or warbringer
south kestrel
no sharpen?
mild thunder
yea sharpen too
mild thunder
allg
imo halving their leg sweep, HoJ, and aoe blind in their opener is gonna be a lot more useful than disarming the ret and still getting hit with a 150k decree
south kestrel
do people ever taken storm of destruction lol
mild thunder
i take it when nothing else is mandatory and im running unhinged
so if i dont need disarm or demolition, which are the main 3rd talents i take
lean burrow
is storm that good?
it's more like "use bladestorm one more time in a match"
banner+warbringer seem better
mild thunder
is storm that good?
imo its nice... i found most shuffles tended toward a second or third rotation of major CDs, so im getting 1-2 extra bladestorms in, which is pretty huge with unhinged
im not the biggest fan of warbringer for arms, unless its against something im charging into a lot, like ele or bm
mild thunder
for sure, if you feel like warbringer works for you, go for it
outside of the major easy choices, a lot of it is what feels best
urban skiff
utter dog shit
what changed?
spice hornet
and some self healing/warpaint nerfs which means train fury
even worse in shuff with fast ramping damp
mild thunder
<@589020053748449300> disarm survival?
nope
south kestrel
okay
tardy flame
When do you disarm the Enh?
mild thunder
yea on doomwinds
but you'll see like one every few months
can also disarm them when low so they cant build stacks to heal
south kestrel
between survival hunter and arcane mage, youd always go sham i imagine
arcane is hard af to catch
spice hornet
arcane is actualyl dumb
tardy flame
can also disarm them when low so they cant build stacks to heal
Ya, this is what I was thinking. Same as with DKs
And Fury during regen
Love a good offensive disarm
cursive pike
mild thunder
honestly, it feels like dk doesnt even use death strike to heal much
cursive pike
which one boyos.... human arms warrior
spice hornet
bad mmm
brazen rock
without knowing your character its legs without a question
cursive pike
yea your right. they are mastery legs but i suppose i can turn into tier
echo musk
Can we turn conquest into tier now?
mild thunder
next week
echo musk
Okay tyty
south kestrel
why did i get put into a lobby with 100mmr below me lol
got 0 rating for 5 wins
cool
tardy flame
Because fuck you, wait another hour for a queue now
cursive pike
do enchants or leg kit transfer over when turned into tier set?
south kestrel
Not sure
steep cairn
What will be the currency for tier conversion? More conquest?
lean burrow
why did i get put into a lobby with 100mmr below me lol
lost too much against previous lobby
south kestrel
dont think anyone knows yet
lean burrow
game is like "okay little guy, here's easier players for you"
south kestrel
lost too much against previous lobby
I guess, 100 seems excessive though
lean burrow
smoky anchor
oh man
smoky anchor
117k execute into a 170k ms 1s later
cursive pike
is any of the drakebreaker bis?
brazen rock
is any of the drakebreaker bis?
no
mild thunder
What will be the currency for tier conversion? More conquest?
there probably isnt one, is just locked behind the week
sorta like conduit charges
lucid walrus
honestly, it feels like dk doesnt even use death strike to heal much
it doesn't
it's like 20k per
smoky anchor
tried playing my m age in solo shuffle as arcane. very fun actually. like a constant game of death teleporting for survival
so many melee trains
mild thunder
it doesn't
sounds about right, looks like disarm is pretty much never worth into uhdk then
lucid walrus
it's apparently worth for unholy assault but i don't think that justifies taking disarm if it doesn't also cover his teammate
mild thunder
which one is unholy assault?
lucid walrus
uh
mild thunder
is that the wound generator? and then apoc pops it?
mild thunder
burst hard, with exe precision
smoky anchor
as warrior they only have ibf to stop us really
mild thunder
press your buttons extra hard so they crit
smoky anchor
and that's only i think 20%?
south kestrel
theyve got blind and stun too
smoky anchor
they have a blind?
mild thunder
you can reflect asphyxiate
smoky anchor
had no idea
mild thunder
you can usually bait IBF with storm bolt too
smoky anchor
ya
south kestrel
mild thunder
so bolt and colsmash in the opener, and if they pop ibf, hold your CDs for second bolt
south kestrel
fair point
wooden grove
If they’re actually playing frost then bring disarm and just disarm their pillar
mild thunder
disarm is very good into fdk
wooden grove
Frost would be better if there were less disarms 😂
pure hornet
just squishy
Quick stat question. For arms pvp what weights more? 700 crit? Or 200 versatility?
tribal wedge
Quick stat question. For arms pvp what weights more? 700 crit? Or 200 versatilit...
Depends how many verse you already have
tribal wedge
Mmmmh would say Crit good then but what makes you gain so much?
Anyway you should stay above 30% vers AT least
spice hornet
zones in as prot in shuffl
mild thunder
Quick stat question. For arms pvp what weights more? 700 crit? Or 200 versatilit...
id probably take the 700 crit
im all about that damage'
timber coral
skirmishes are harder than ranked
lucid walrus
you can roll over people in skirms
mild thunder
welcome to the fold, brother 
limpid fog
Should I be getting 2 op off and sharpen into a fat war breaker spear avatar ? Or don’t bother
Or just unleash my nuts off the hop
mild thunder
stacking OPs is only ever worth if you're setting up for big burst, yea
but sharpen isnt worth wasting for your big burst
save it for when their healer is coming out off cc and the kill-target is already low, like ~50% or lower
tranquil raven
If i take a 395 set piece from the M+ section in vault, that doesn't scale in pvp right? Is there a way to make it scale in pvp?
mild thunder
nope
pure hornet
im all about that damage'
You think as i do..
agile crow
dumb question, how do i get the other walking mountain pieces for PVP
conquest person doesn't sell those?
muted surge
Vault or the catalyst
agile crow
Vault or the catalyst
so do you buy a chest or legs etc and then take it to the catalyst?
gaunt scaffold
what gems are you guys running
tranquil raven
will the pve piece we get from catalyst scale in pvp aswell if the piece we use scales too?
tranquil raven
ty! so if you have no set pieces yet from vault, you "just" buy 2 conquest pieces (let's say chest and shoulders) and can get the optimal 2set bonus in 2 weeks?
next herald
guys how the fuck can i not be kited 24/7 as arms - i have like super mobility but im always in a trap/binding shot/root/stun in shuffle
its crazy as fuck
surreal compass
yo question for arms, should I aim to get blood token pieces to make my all gear be crit-vers ?
cause some pieces from honor dont have crit
tribal wedge
guys how the fuck can i not be kited 24/7 as arms - i have like super mobility ...
Trade your mobility cd wisely, like you don t want to charge when ennemies has lib. Los them when you Can t reach them etc
next herald
lib?
ebon sequoia
Do I want to go with the belt as it’s haste? And I’m 400 away from the crit sword
Arms warrior btw
high kite
Take weapon spend conq on other pieces
mild thunder
lib?
Pretty sure he meant freedom. Stuff like master’s call for hunters, hand of freedom for paladins, because your charge won’t root and you won’t catch them
If you’re versing something like rsham, hunter, mage etc save your avatar to break a root instead of opening with it for burst
next herald
im posting nearly a full round of shuffle
where i totally raged because i was not allowed to do anything
and its so frustrating
agile crow
what is the best t hing to buy with conquest after weapon
have shoulders and legs already
(arms)
lucid walrus
sure, unless you're convinced you'll roll a tier version out of vault
though it won't matter too much since you can craft it by next vault anyway
mild thunder
im posting nearly a full round of shuffle
whered you post it?
next herald
il post it at gamepplay review but its still uploading
i needed to remove the sound because i was so fucking angry
i went full autistic at my screen
mild thunder
relatable
next herald
nah - im not a person who is easily ashamed but thats too embarassing
mild thunder
wait, i completely forgot there's a gameplay review channel
next herald
also i think i insulted nearly every kind of human on earth meanwhile
its at 40% im gonna post it then
mild thunder
also i think i insulted nearly every kind of human on earth meanwhile
nothing we havent all done before
next herald
damn youtube uploading needs so long with 12 minutes of gameplay
mild thunder
grats and rip
lucid walrus
so glad someone has the nuts to post footage for a review
shy aurora
God 44 mins Solo shuffle Q and a person leaves the lobby even before the first game starts
what the fuck is that ;p xd
modest rapids
39 strength or 300 stamina?
muted surge
Stamina doesn’t give you dmg
modest rapids
Being alive does
I donno, the stat diff is quite big, it made me think about waking stats for a sec
minor heath
guess im taking tier shoulders with leech over weapon, already have the 421 daybreaker one
surreal compass
is bladestorm necessary for pvp ? wouldn't go deep into execute be more beneficial ?
main thing is i kinda dont fuck with bladestorm
surreal compass
wdym sorry
lucid walrus
we basically get a couple free points with the 10.0.5 changes next week
surreal compass
Ohh
lucid walrus
there's not much else to spec into at that point. bladestorm's just too useful
surreal compass
cool cool ty
steep inlet
guys
is there a EU cluster with mass mass horde in warmode ?
i wanna kill some while xp a new dwarf war
gaunt scaffold
blizz just need to give us MoP second wind back
undone pumice
tru tru
sly nova
do i get the set piece even tho it has not vers? the other pieces are haste vers
