i think its also
#pvp
wheat jay
It is
mild thunder
Dk is pretty much immortal into casters
long ridge
guys drop what you're doing and look at the above paragraph closely
long ridge
you'll thank me though
wheat jay
guys drop what you're doing and look at the above paragraph closely
Tldr please
Too long
wheat jay
No
coral axle
Dk is pretty much immortal into casters
playing caster into udk rn is a massive tilt
wheat jay
Too long
long ridge
alright your loss
mild thunder
Turn it into a reddit text to speech short for our tiny brains
violet fossil
Tsg gonna mega stronk
wheat jay
i unironically think once dks damage gets tuned
IF
wheat jay
Give me huge survi buffs and I'll be content
coral axle
yeah if DK gets damage nerfed they are kinda fucked, they do not live vs melee
violet fossil
fr id trade damage for surv
mild thunder
If it gets tuned
mild thunder
It won’t be until coming into s2
coral axle
honestly feel like dk is getting worse, all the top casters have been getting nerfed and melee is getting buffed
dk isnt even that good if every game is war/ret/feral/rogue
quick carbon
dk has passive defensive stance below 35% theyre fine defensively
dk is still fine into melee
cuz theyy just absolutely commit criminal damage
violet fossil
we fall over to melee tho
quick carbon
u CAN yes
indigo gulch
anyone know how to get rid of default arena frames?
mild thunder
dk definitely doesnt fall over like we do
quick carbon
dks die less than prot paladdins in solo shuffle lmao
coral axle
nah once u get icebound they really do die
long ridge
https://www.naturalreaders.com/online/?s=V2fd4c66cc-95e4-11ed-b1a3-0ef96ebb0115.pdf&t=NaturalReader Document okay text to speech as requested
quick carbon
dependdding on uptime
mild thunder
dk is also decently tanky into ret bec they can pop ams and amz
quick carbon
if ur going to change ddk defensively remove spell warden buff death strike
and just remove
will of the necropoliis
its a dumb ability
coral axle
removing spellwarden would be unbelievably based
wheat jay
https://www.naturalreaders.com/online/?s=V2fd4c66cc-95e4-11ed-b1a3-0ef96ebb0115....
Dont have headphones on me, sorry
long ridge
rip
quick carbon
bro no1s clicking that link man
long ridge
alright
mild thunder
https://www.naturalreaders.com/online/?s=V2fd4c66cc-95e4-11ed-b1a3-0ef96ebb0115....
add minecraft gameplay to the background
long ridge
bro keep your mouth shut
mild thunder
probably, but i think we're still going to be squishy af
long ridge
i'm tryin' to get glad
quick carbon
its not fun when ur specs so broken
than any rando moron
just gets gladiator
by breathing
long ridge
i disagree, i like breathing victory
quick carbon
like it was embarrassing being a warrior in sl lmao
long ridge
i skipped over that shit
quick carbon
i wanna be a solid B-A tier
arms is a tier rn i think
long ridge
imo we are B
mild thunder
idk, i really think it depends on the matchup
long ridge
but after patch I feel like we gonna be A
mild thunder
into melee, i feel like we can be a solid A
flat dome
I can't see them nerfing arms, without nerfing others
quick carbon
after the patch were going to be broken beyond belief
mild thunder
into casters, i still feel C tier
long ridge
yeah true caster counters
quick carbon
if they get uptime
flat dome
"If"
long ridge
ele or arcane or locks fuck me up bro
mild thunder
idk, ive queued into several all-caster lobbies and there's pretty much nothing to do
long ridge
you can stay on a devoker?
flat dome
Good casters can clown arms
quick carbon
caster lobbies can be annoying ya
ive had games whr im running aroun pillars
waiting for my swifty to come back
then just 1 shotting someone cuz they wall on my partners damage
long ridge
then you're getting outdamaged and outpressured
mild thunder
arms defs feels strong into melee
long ridge
'cause while you run their dots are hitting and you do zero
quick carbon
ya thats true but
mild thunder
hopefully IP will help us into casters
long ridge
we can only pray
mild thunder
because technically right now a ton of our utility and defensives are just useless into casters
flat dome
That's why I like the bleed build
quick carbon
warrior also has 20% wall on spell reflect now
foir maagic dam
so ur not as hopeless
as u think
mild thunder
yea but that goes away after you reflect a spell
mild thunder
doesnt seem to help that much then
when you've got 6 lava bursts hurling your way in one global
quick carbon
i mean its also a matter of positioning and knowing when ur safe and when ur not
mild thunder
not an exaggeration, thats how many LBs they can throw 
quick carbon
ele shamans do that to everyone tho
not a warrior issue
its an ele issue
ele can even 1 shot dks
mild thunder
no, but other melee like dk have significantly better defensives into it
cant parry a LB
flat dome
100k earth shocks
mild thunder
training ele does not stop their dmg
spice hornet
i feel like past 2.4k in shuffle as a warrior rn you have to sweat ur balls off
quick carbon
of just murdddering him
too
ya buut training ele kills them
ele shamans can not survive warrior damage
mild thunder
only way to stop ele dmg is to get your healer to spam dispel flame shock
flat dome
I feel like you have to train em to have a chance
mild thunder
ele shaman's biggest weakness is that they can die, ye
flat dome
Exactly
mild thunder
unlike a lot of casters
quick carbon
they die REALLY easily
flat dome
Give em 5 seconds to free cast and you're fucked
quick carbon
i mean tbh i think every caster
dies to warrior rn
i meaan ele is gonna
do damaage
whether u t rain them
or not
mild thunder
Give em 5 seconds to free cast and you're fucked
ele doesnt need to free cast
cause they dont cast 
quick carbon
u just gotta out pressure them
mild thunder
only thing you're stopping if you sit on them is a hard-cast LB every ~10 seconds
and maybe stormkeeper
flat dome
ele doesnt need to free cast
Yeah, but they perform better without a puckered butthole
mild thunder
Yeah, but they perform better without a puckered butthole
slightly, but its better to be stopping an affli or demo's damage imo
because you can actually hinder them
spice hornet
frost mage pumps lmao
flat dome
I'd rather fight locks at this point
spice hornet
dmg breakdown is usually ice lance, ring of fire, then glacial spike
mild thunder
NOT INCLUDING the bugs
long ridge
For the blind, Arms is the light.
For the hungry, Arms is the bread.
For the thirsty, Arms is the fountain.
For the sick, Arms is the cure.
For the prisoner, Arms is freedom.
For the liar, Arms is the truth.
For the traveler, Arms is the way.
mild thunder
For the blind, Arms is the light.
For the hungry, Arms is the bread.
For the thi...
Inshallah, brother! Arms is the way ❤️
long ridge
my mantra
quick carbon
the most annoying specs to face as arms is like
feral
the nferal
then feral
then feral again
undone pumice
Inshallah, brother! Arms is the way ❤️
bismillah
quick carbon
because ferals are triple b tier
long ridge
i am happiest to see rogue and my fellow warriors
quick carbon
BUSTED BEYOND BELIEF
flat dome
Feral look like they are always on crack
long ridge
when i see fury i rejoice because i know i am going to get at least 1-2 rating
flat dome
the most annoying specs to face as arms is like
Arcane is hella annoying
quick carbon
i got what i thought would be the most aids lobby in shuffle, ret dh dk
long ridge
bro go unhinged and sit on healer and cleave 'em all fuck 'em
quick carbon
unironically went 5-1 cuz the dh kept bluring off his mount
mild thunder
unironically went 5-1 cuz the dh kept bluring off his mount <:keks:9362316108508...
highest IQ dh player
quick carbon
i legit watched him blue
blur
then i hit stormbolt
80k colossus smash 170k ms
kekw kekw kekw
war top end dam ridic
mild thunder
but yea i feel you, every lobby i get is either some all-caster shit, or dk, feral, ret or dh
long ridge
so blur if you stun 'em they can't dodge it right
do u have to be behind 'em or anything?
long ridge
oh
mild thunder
blur is still 35% wall
i thought it was 20
long ridge
u just wait until it's over then right
quick carbon
ya
long ridge
glimpse is 35%
mild thunder
ngl execute is no longer satisfying to press
im so sick of the animation and dmg delay
flat dome
When it crits
long ridge
just don't zig when you should'a zagged
mild thunder
i wanna ditch massacre just to go back to the normal animation
mild thunder
i fucking hate it
long ridge
ie make sure u keep mortal strike debuff up
grand scaffold
D:
wheat jay
the 3 most satisfying buttons in wow
I raise you ancient aftershock
grand scaffold
wheat jay
SLAP
grand scaffold
i lost my 2100
long ridge
cuz u can execute some bitch at 5% and then he gets healled
grand scaffold
to double hunter
wheat jay
Everything dies
quick carbon
I raise you ancient aftershock
i raise you old shockwave
grand scaffold
with a garbo hpal
long ridge
bro just uninstall
mild thunder
aftershock
grand scaffold
i couldnt catch a break
mild thunder
how did we not get to keep it
wheat jay
i raise you old shockwave
Virgin shocjwave vs CHAD ANCIENT AFTERSHOCK
SLAP
Everything dies
quick carbon
Virgin shocjwave vs CHAD ANCIENT AFTERSHOCK
I RAISE YOU GLYPH OF BLITZ INTO TRIPLE SHOCKWAVE
INTO
THE RECK
STORM
flat dome
Should give arms Shockwave baseline 
quick carbon
YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT FELT
mild thunder
Should give arms Shockwave baseline <:Pepexecute:595606525272391710>
bolt/shockwave choice node
quick carbon
bring back vigilance
mild thunder
but shockwave 4 sec stun
wheat jay
Was just a good button to press
mild thunder
Was just a good button to press
the visual design for aftershock was so fucking good
mild thunder
sxc ability
flat dome
bolt/shockwave choice node
That would be a good change. Then I could cuck demo pets
quick carbon
FUCK LEGION WARBREAKER
wheat jay
WITH SPIKES
wheat jay
Suck my ass
quick carbon
I WISH IT NEVER GOT ADDED
wheat jay
Legion WARBREAKER is goated
mild thunder
That would be a good change. Then I could cuck demo pets
there should be way more choice nodes overall, so that we can have access to utility without being OP
safeguard/overwatch
doubletime/12 sec charge or charge stun
bolt/shockwave
etc
wheat jay
im swinging
Im not into men, and not into swinging
mild thunder
overwatch was broken when it was tied to 6 sec intervene, with aoe reflect and with safeguard
mild thunder
on its own, if we cant have access to that other stuff, i think it'd be fine
wheat jay
Double time is better tho
mild thunder
high(ish)-skill ability that made intervene useful into casters
quick carbon
charge stun was just so pog
especially aoe charge stun
INTO THE TRIPLE SHOCKWAVE
AHHHH
mild thunder
remove double time
id rather 12sec CD on charge than double time
spice hornet
we need that aoe interrupt again
quick carbon
id rather have charge stun back than either of them
mild thunder
warbringer should make charge aoe stun for 2 sec in a cone 
quick carbon
BRO IF WARBRINGER WAS CHARGE STUN
it was act supposedd to be
in alpha
notes hadd warbringer stunning
but it got removed cuz
double time with charge stun
mild thunder
they left it in alpha cause its such an alpha ability
quick carbon
would be retarded
flat dome
Should just make charge actually connect every time
pure hornet
i just want more utility man
Witch u think are the best utilities of the spec?
mild thunder
Witch u think are the best utilities of the spec?
right now? we still have a fair bit with banner, intervene, dbs, rally etc
but we used to have more
mortal elm
how long is solo shuffle queues for you?
mild thunder
5-30 minutes
flat dome
Witch u think are the best utilities of the spec?
Early morning always seems to have short queues
mortal elm
20 min average minimum
mmr?
pure hornet
and then drops off hard after 2400
Afther 2400 there arent many.. just you, God, and 2-3 more warriors and thats it.oh and mud too
Wish i could hit 2000 this year
Ntill 32 december
burnt pawn
when im against an ele shaman. should i kill the fire elemental?
coral axle
the thrill of the one shot I guess
just like I get a thrill from disarming their double tap
mortal elm
seems like it gets faster at higher mmr
ah i see
flat dome
I get a thrill each time I disarm a ret during wings, then I get him on my team and he calls me a stupid piece of shit
full quiver
guys what mount do i buy
CROAKER
tardy flame
They can still do some things, but not all things
spice hornet
how do you havfe fun in high level shuffle as a warr
everyone just knows to go arms
tardy flame
The fun comes from surviving the train and obliterating someone with back to back to back MS resets
stable siren
drag em around the corner and take there lunch money when there moms not watching
brazen rock
how do you havfe fun in high level shuffle as a warr
by baiting shit retard DHs behind pillars and spearing them
coral axle
pain
serene kestrel
by baiting shit retard DHs behind pillars and spearing them
i live for this
spice hornet
pain
i have other specs around 2400 and the experience is way more fun than when i play my warrior in shuffle
coral axle
yeah I mean, at least going off the stats its not fun for warrior in the higher ratings
mystic barn
grats on the free solo shuffle r1 title for war
spice hornet
yeah but 2 vanish takes too long to kill
spice hornet
grats on the free solo shuffle r1 title for war
what are the cutoffs even looking like
mild thunder
im still tryna grind to get to elite for shuffle... keep getting 3-3 lobbies where i cant climb
toxic compass
r1 solo is same percent as r1 3s?
mild thunder
i believe so
dusk mauve
How do we play vs demo as arms?
mild thunder
run
cry
die
make sure you kill obelisks, run on tyrant, have demolition + wrecking for their bubble, and kick hand of guldan
try and spear him away from gate
mild thunder
and depending on what his healer is, you'll have to switch a bit... pretty sure last time i versed rdru/demo, i was switching a ton and sending my go on the druid
mild thunder
U rather kick hand over portal?
i dont know anything about nether portal tbh
stable siren
portal is fed via deamons summoned
dusk mauve
When u say run at tyrant, u mean kill it?
dusk mauve
And u mentioned obelisk, are those the little goblins with like 40k hp
mild thunder
obelisk is a little doohikey they summon that buffs pet damage by 20% or something
or gives them haste idfk, but its green and you need to kill it
dusk mauve
I see
dark sparrow
Also good to fear off all the pets after portal
dusk mauve
Is it worth killing those low hp pets
mild thunder
nope
if you get super lucky and the lock is r*tarded, you can kill his main pet and he'll get cucked for a bit
but i havent had the chance to do that all xpac
dark sparrow
And be careful of the pit lord that summons from nether, shit slaps
mild thunder
probably, but we'll be here to support you
dusk mauve
Love
dark sparrow
You can also use your spear as bait for their gate cause they can insta summon it and get out
So if you just throw spear most will just panic and gtfo so when you do your actual go they can’t use gate anymore
spice hornet
lol locks just holding insta gate
and dropping it and porting
no matter where
kinda op
dark sparrow
Now I just think it’s funny to see them panic when you just throw spear
mild thunder
i wanna push 1800 on dk for the elite set, but i dont wanna play unholy
how impossible is it gonna be as fdk
dusk mauve
Yeah thats a good one they always gate after spear
dark sparrow
Less fun but not that bad, once you have 2 set pretty decent even
Fat oblits
Think im gonna swap my warr from orc to di dwarf, not rlly liking green boi anymore
mystic barn
i dont know anything about nether portal tbh
nether portal is pit lord, pitlord hits for like 40k a swing
burnt pawn
how do you deal with ele shamans?
mild thunder
nether portal is pit lord, pitlord hits for like 40k a swing
cant you just walk away from pit lord
dark sparrow
how do you deal with ele shamans?
Make sure your healer dispels
mystic barn
cant you just walk away from pit lord
it’s chased me fast enough when I’ve been slowed so I slow it too
dark sparrow
Pit lord is fast boi, better to stun/fear
mystic barn
but when the zoo is on your screen it gets hectic
mild thunder
it’s chased me fast enough when I’ve been slowed so I slow it too
yee makes sense
too many things to remember, im too old for this game
dark sparrow
Meh most of it is just awareness you get from playing. I’m kinda sad I quit on s4 of sl cause I know I’m being a regard some games missing the awareness
serene kestrel
how do i apply my fps knowledge to arenas? jiggle peek??
force unfair fights on the enemy by exploiting their bad positioning??
stable siren
yep
also i just found out that my solo truffle rating dosent carry over when i swap from fury 2 arms T-T
crude bane
wow pvp is just meta slave
stable siren
idk why i didnt put 2 and 2 together it doesn't when im prot.
crude bane
they buffed ADC in league of legend
stable siren
eh its probably for the best its a bit squishier so its best i get some practice in
crude bane
draven best pick incoming once again
wheat jay
wow pvp is just meta slave
True
crude bane
gigachad champ
wheat jay
Gotta play meta or suffer
serene kestrel
not draven.....
stable siren
mashallah
rancid granite
no smurfing pls
long ridge
rancid granite
no smurfs allowed
flat dome
Wtf was your healer doing?
crude bane
why every time im so goood at dodging the meta abusing
like BFA abusing corruption adn trinket
now the ez clap DH
skip the SL the hunt
long ridge
Assembly Guardian’s Ring – Tank-centric proc: Taking damage has a chance to grant an arcane shield, absorbing the next 71519 damage and lasting 12 sec. Only one Assembly Ring of Power can be worn at a time.
does anyone use this
long ridge
i am the kill target in like 90% of games tho
muted surge
Idk I’m a 1600 pleb but
When I’m the target
I just los
And then pop out with cds
Like a ninja
Just with a big sword
long ridge
guys how do you release a healer from your LFG when he sucks
gentle depot
/kick
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nimble jasper
skip the SL the hunt
sl hunt didnt hit as hard
covert flare
Heya, other than weapons, what is the prio slots to buy with conquest when gearing up ?
spice hornet
generally you pray for big expensive pieces in vault while buying bracers/neck/cloak
550 is so shit every week
tribal nimbus
Assembly Guardian’s Ring – Tank-centric proc: Taking damage has a chance to gran...
I’m curious about this too
Anyone use it?
obtuse jetty
guys is there any top war streaming?
spice hornet
Uncapped next reset
it is?
wheat jay
Afaik yes
spice hornet
sweet
spice hornet
get wireless headset
steep inlet
Roll healer
spice hornet
do chores/work aroudn the house while waiting for queue
steep inlet
And pay windows
copper hare
productive af irl since shuffle started
I can literally sit in queue for 2 hours
then go 30 sec for a piss
queue missed
copper hare
might be the move ngl
spice hornet
sub rogue feels badly designed
almost all dmg is just secret technique
isnt a pve aoe abilitiy?
hate warr/rogue/x rounds
flat dome
I feel so gimped having a rogue on my team
spice hornet
yeah its a really bad comp
i can't really think of a worse one
it is bad in 2s
its bad in every bracjet
slender spear
is arms decent in 2s?
or solo shuffle... im just trying to learn and play, lol
but losing every game is ROUGH
crude bane
wasnt as hard as now iirc
just saw some tren video hunting focus target and 1 tap them
dunno the season i stop week 2
nimble jasper
almost all dmg is just secret technique
can aoe rupture
nimble jasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DxbWhsZPY&ab_channel=TrenacetateTV
yeah uhh
look at tyga’s clips
and theres a dozen ww onetap ones
void scarab
or solo shuffle... im just trying to learn and play, lol
I'm fairly new to the game (especially pvp) and I'm having a blast with arms. I think it's pretty good
spice hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DxbWhsZPY&ab_channel=TrenacetateTV
The rogue mage match
Gave me depression
Triggered my ptsd
nimble jasper
Triggered my ptsd
what about dis
south kestrel
Scared to queue ss until this lock shit Is fixed lol
mild thunder
i havent run into it yet
south kestrel
I just know I will
spice hornet
I have not ran into it either
nimble jasper
that was a few days ago
long ridge
i'd love to go against double rogue r u kidding me
gaunt scaffold
Crit build or deep wounds build
long ridge
i thought u couldn't reflect it 😮
limpid fog
can prot warrior be fun in random bgs ? just starting up
south kestrel
Anything is fun if you enjoy it
limpid fog
are they being taken later down the road for RBGs or mainly druids im assuming
spice hornet
Could be fun to dragon charge people off maps and stuff
Wizards just bend you over tho
lucid walrus
prot will probably never be more viable than bear druid for RBGs but it does well against physical damage
modern grail
anyone else on a52 get dc'd just now?
sharp meteor
wooden grove
prot will probably never be more viable than bear druid for RBGs but it does wel...
Bear > Vengeance > all other tanks in RBG. Class balance only determines if you run bear or DH tank, the others just don’t serve the purpose you bring a tank for.
honest dew
any stats command or anything? vers > haste > crit?
wooden grove
any stats command or anything? vers > haste > crit?
honest dew
oops, in the pins actually 😄
wooden grove
Naw I kid just look at pins lmao
torpid roost
Real answer is always sim it but general consensus seems to be crit > haste arms and haste mastery fury
smoky anchor
yOu CaNt SiM pVp derp derp derp
the hard part is figuring out how to sim 424 i lvl quickly other than manually plugging it in on gear compare
mild thunder
Real answer is always sim it but general consensus seems to be crit > haste arms...
simming is pretty much pointless for pvp... you're not necessarily seeking "highest dps" gear (otherwise we'd never stack vers), you're looking for what compliments or works with the playstyle
crit stacking is definitely not the best idea for arms dps, but it compliments our burst significantly more than haste does
also, is this server shut down for the affli bug? fucking better be
south kestrel
I hope so lol
mild thunder
im 99% sure they're gonna implement arms pvp nerfs in 10.0.5 because of that stupid mmarkers clip
brazen rock
also, is this server shut down for the affli bug? fucking better be
nah world instance servers were taking a shit
got booted out of my 21 academy mid crawth, all of us got kicked to valdrakken logging back in and lost the key entirely
mild thunder
😦
south kestrel
brutal
mild thunder
i should get around to KSM sometime
south kestrel
Which mmarkers clip?
mild thunder
got booted out of my 21 academy mid crawth, all of us got kicked to valdrakken l...
you playing arms?
brazen rock
prot
south kestrel
arms pretty av in keys atm
brazen rock
arms slaps pretty hard but they do nothing outside of warbreaker and storm
similar to fury doing literally 0 dps outside of avatar/deck/ravager/spear.
But its fun pulling 3 packs and seeing fury peak at 600k dps
teal light
Sweeping Strikes they do solid damage...not world breaking however
mild thunder
arms slaps pretty hard but they do nothing outside of warbreaker and storm
yea you pretty much do zero ST damage in your aoe build as arms too
or the opposite
teal light
May have taken the pvp talent for wrecking throw as well and then crit
thick reef
p sure he did
jovial meteor
i know this has probably been discussed but anyone else taking a 2mil dmg deathbolt?
thick reef
lol
mild thunder
i know this has probably been discussed but anyone else taking a 2mil dmg deathb...
its being fixed
teal light
750% increase damage against shields with a crit...boom
mild thunder
"soon"
south kestrel
have blizz even acknowledged it
jovial meteor
okay thanks, copped a few exploiters last night unfortunately
limpid fog
so the go to spec arms or fury now ?
mild thunder
gigachad arms
limpid fog
time to learn arms it is
coral axle
2k rating in M+ is pretty easy right now, other than vault they all seem pretty easy to get to 15
im not even convinced that vault is that hard but its just so easy to get fucked and brick
limpid fog
I got KSM first week , it was a hot snooze fest
robust hamlet
got ksh alittle bit ago on fury, now im trying to get 1800 for the mog, its rough not knowing much about pvp lol
mild thunder
ksm is always easy, just cbf doing it yet
coral axle
wonder what KSM is equivalent to in pvp rating, guess its hard to say since it just gets easier and easier each week
coral axle
what do you need for KSH, is that 20 in everything?
brazen rock
iirc its timed 18s
coral axle
yeah that doesnt seem like much, especially once ppl have gear
mild thunder
ksm is 15s
mild thunder
which is supposed to be 15s, but yea you can do it with a bunch of 14s from memory
brazen rock
everyone will have COS/shadowmoons 4 key levels higher then say, AV or RLP.
mild thunder
i really wish they'd push the mount back to KSH
and either flip the reward for KSM or give it something else
because KSM is a joke
coral axle
there's still a couple months left in the season right? I cant even imagine how easy it will be by the end
mild thunder
this season is likely to go to may or something imo
after 10.0.5 we've still got a bit to wait for 10.0.7
and then that'll last at least 1-2 months
coral axle
gotta imagine in may when u got 5 people with 4 set i410 that even +18s will be doable by blizzard forum players
mild thunder
blizz forum is a stretch ngl
brazen rock
18/19s are already fairly easy to pug.
mild thunder
my plan is to push glad, then get ksm with my 408 elite gear so i dont have to waste time gearing
maybe go for aotc if i cbf
limpid fog
what arms build for BGs ? bleed or BS cleave
coral axle
now that I think about it, 2400 in SS will probably be a joke by May too
the actual glad players are gonna be like 4k by then
mild thunder
im hoping shuffle dies
but it wont
i need 3s to inflate if i wanna get glad
just a bit
coral axle
yeah I like shuffle but I hate how its fucked with rating in the other queues
mild thunder
there needs to be better incentives for people that may not necessarily be able to push glad to play 2s/3s
imo, remove the armor set from shuffle, push it to 2100 from 2s/3s only and add new shuffle rewards
like a ground mount, more easily achieved title, weapon mog or something
lucid walrus
wonder what KSM is equivalent to in pvp rating, guess its hard to say since it j...
prob like 1800
craggy socket
Should be running from big CDs as arms?
Like leap and pillar?
Or dstance/die by the sword and keep pressure
torpid roost
simming is pretty much pointless for pvp... you're not necessarily seeking "high...
I mean, you can look at the burst curve or select what raises overall patchwerky kinda damage, you could just yolo out but that doesn't seem to help anything. Just by feels alone I'd probably stack pure haste
mild thunder
I mean, you can look at the burst curve or select what raises overall patchwerky...
imo pvp really is feels > reals when it comes to gearing
lean burrow
prob like 1800
ksm is way longer to get
mild thunder
problem is the majority of players dont know what to feel for, so its better to check guides
torpid roost
Possibly. And there's little shit that just can't realistically be simmed
mild thunder
the trinkets are a good example... i would never pick between the haste proc trinket and crit on-use based on what simmed better
thats purely what plays well with your spec/what feels best
wet scarab
lol @ ksh is a joke when it's such a tiny percentage of players that even gets KSM
KSM is super easy
I guess KSH equivalent would be 2nd month of the season duelist or something
brazen rock
lol @ ksh is a joke when it's such a tiny percentage of players that even gets K...
It's a joke for any organized 5 man.
smoky anchor
can someone explain what happened here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMXk_7F0G8
how did shatter do that m uch
brazen rock
Demolition talent + every cd under the sun.
mild thunder
the clip is just perfect luck + mmarkers playing like a bit of a tard
smoky anchor
im not even convinced that vault is that hard but its just so easy to get fucked...
vault is so annoying because it's like 40 minutes of torture sometimes
spice hornet
can someone explain what happened here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMXk_7F0...
Ppl mad when warriors aren’t free kills
mystic barn
🫠
fought an arms in 2s today that had hpriest. Really fried my brain hearing parry go off 7 times in one match
mild thunder
question for any of you cross pvp/pvers - since i cbf actually m+ gearing, should i use my 3 sparks to craft an elemental lariat and then a weapon instead of the bracers, because i know im never gonna get a higher ilev weap?
nimble jasper
2h is 2 sparks
nimble jasper
stats imo is the most annoying
i think outlaw and ww only 2 that ver stack in pve now
thick cove
okay guys here I go, about to craft my 4th, 418 item... do I craft the belt that has an aoe slow, or the bracers that have vers
south kestrel
question for any of you cross pvp/pvers - since i cbf actually m+ gearing, shoul...
Lariat for sure
lariat is only 1 spark too
hazy isle
Was venruki always this much of a crybaby
Its like he rotates what to bitch about
Every week
coral axle
Dude learned that complaining gets viewers
nimble jasper
turns out being more relatable to 1600 player viewers gets more attention
mild thunder
ven is literally unbearable
its not as bad as the clip where he face-tanked a rets burst w/o using a defensive for 8 seconds and said they're OP
mystic barn
Venruki is my favorite streamer
nimble jasper
washed
mild thunder
Venruki is my favorite streamer
all non-warrior wow streamers are cringe and/or toxic
mystic barn
nothing wrong with being toxic to warriors
hidden herald
so
very often in ss
I'm relatively low on dmg
is this expected or am I doing something wrong
(arms)
mild thunder
depends on what else is in the lobby
you're not really going to be competing in dmg with uhdk, feral, ret and usually not dh because they have so much passive aoe
but there's a lot of classes you can compete against or outdamage, and even against those higher damage classes, your effective damage with burst, ST pressure and sharpen is higher
south kestrel
i said lariat and a weapon
Then yes get both if you cbf raiding or grinding high lvl wep
digital crater
is this expected or am I doing something wrong
I expect this personally, but then I also expect to be doing more burst in my windows than everyone except like ret pallys
limpid fog
Sadge going arms, do I need to replace my haste fury gear to crit
covert storm
Fucking hell man arms is so fun, cannot understand how ppl prefer fury
limpid fog
I drop in 5 seconds , new to it but I just get blasted
steep inlet
1
mild thunder
1 week and 1 day
digital crater
I drop in 5 seconds , new to it but I just get blasted
Part of the fun of being arms is being the go target every fucking round
steep inlet
It will change with IP
limpid fog
I like just smashing rando bgs, will fury just be better to go ? I have all haste vers gear atm
steel trout
i just made bracer + lariat for arms pve
muted surge
I like just smashing rando bgs, will fury just be better to go ? I have all hast...
Just play whatever enjoys you
steel trout
question for any of you cross pvp/pvers - since i cbf actually m+ gearing, shoul...
if u didnt make 2 spark item for pvp its ok to make wep
limpid fog
I need damage , I crave dmg , arms is like a glass cannon
steel trout
arms does more dam
warped warren
fotm rollers
limpid fog
And shall I make the infurious boots
warped warren
damage helm or no balls
mild thunder
damage helm or no balls
lean burrow
what do we do against pit lords?
save fear for them?
is it bad to spend stun on them?
mild thunder
fear good
stun probs a waste
in a pinch, piercing howl is good if you leap away too
idle cliff
What enchant are you guys using for arms on weapon?
digital crater
arms does more dam
Feels like arms only does more damage in sims
Fury has enough sustain to actually stay stuck in and get the damage on target
We have good dam during our windows but we're forced to def stance and wall or kite a lot of the time
mild thunder
this talent setup feels nice
pretty stock-standard
personally, id drop FbV for rend, but people here are pretty split on that
swap unhinged for executioner's precision and blademasters for warlords anytime you're versing a pet spec (demo, uhdk, bm etc...)
steel trout
Feels like arms only does more damage in sims
no
fury dam is shit
0 pressure outside of cd
warped warren
fury
muted surge
personally, id drop FbV for rend, but people here are pretty split on that
Does rend do dmg now?
When I tried it it seemed meh
steel trout
its more like fueled by violence dosnt really do too much either
just pick what u prefer
mild thunder
Does rend do dmg now?
does decent damage if you're remembering to multi-rend
but yea its a choice between FbV (shit) and rend (shit, but can be decent)
modern veldt
idk if its been asked before but why is the leap macro or charge in some cases just treating your target like theres no path to use when you can clearly leap and or charge?
lean burrow
in a pinch, piercing howl is good if you leap away too
ty
got rekt by pit lord on lordaeron ruins
sharp tusk
could be solid next patch huh?
imagine a double ep double op sharpen blade unhinged bs
that shit could slap
kindred viper
those 220k wrecking throws into life cocoon ❤️
lucid walrus
sitting in shuffle queue like i'm on death row for this vault
tribal wedge
could be solid next patch huh?
Take ignore pain bro
mild thunder
how inflated is shuffle rating already?
sharp tusk
could depend on matchup maybe cause healing to full during a DBTS could be pretty solid vs physical damage
agile aspen
how inflated is shuffle rating already?
I saw a warlock in my key today with 200 games of 2s and 3s at 1600 but 2k shuffle
so
sharp tusk
holy shit some players in solo shuffle are so mentally ill
and will spam whisper you but have it so you cant reply
steel trout
how inflated is shuffle rating already?
GIGA
mild thunder
yea i had a 1-5 sp tell the healer to kill themselves earlier xD
steel trout
could depend on matchup maybe cause healing to full during a DBTS could be prett...
storm wall bad!
sharp tusk
i was saying go evoker its a free kill and every round he was on the enemy team hed be like youre a free kill
not even the evoker it was the resto druid
mild thunder
storm wall isnt useless imo, but yea its not gonna hold a candle to IP
steel trout
ppl who have brain wont hit into it
mild thunder
yea but most melee dont have brain
sharp tusk
steel trout
true
sharp tusk
especially below 2k
steel trout
low cr demon talent 😈
sharp tusk
and im just going for rival for the mog
mild thunder
<2k storm wall is probably pretty good into melee
steel trout
even then it will be worse than ignore pain
undone pumice
sharp tusk
missing a spear feels so bad
mild thunder
landing a spear and watching them walk out is bad
steel trout
biiig dam
steel trout
spear bis
mild thunder
idk, with oce ping landing spears isnt fun
and its so embarrassing missing a spear in shuffle
steel trout
just dont miss
sharp tusk
just macro on player and just stand ontop of them
sharp tusk
just make kb
one for monke
and the other for tactical spear
is it just me or do we feel awful into caster cleave
sharp tusk
yea i was in a shuffle with only casters i was only melee 
muted surge
That’s how I hard lost 2 games in a row
Dunno what todo besides being perma slowed / rooted
sharp tusk
ya the other dps were evoker aff lock and ele sham
fear root stun hex slow they had it all
ontop of a resto druid in my dms hard focusing me
muted surge
I still don’t get why there’s a perma 50% slow in the game
mortal elm
at this point im thinking should i just try 2v2?
finding a partner waiting time
vs this queue
stiff merlin
Go 6-0
pure hornet
If you constantly go 3-3, or 4-2, etc in time you will gain rating. If you stabilize at a specific rating than that is where you beling
Belong
Until you imvprove yourself
With more knowledge,decisions,positioning. better awareness,etc
And uptime is nr.1
flat dome
=[pppp
lean burrow
storm wall bad!
I forgot storm wall existed
so it's possible to pop parry + taunt pit lord
and get giga heals
5head tactics?
undone pumice
ive started just fucking up pets
and its kinda working
taunt bet and storm bolt it behind pillar
turbo speciesisit
mild thunder
not a bad idea
is there a macro that works for targeting fel obelisk, psyfiend etc? can still be aids to find that shit sometimes
lucid walrus
pretty sure they're in the same boat as totems
mild thunder
which is..?
lucid walrus
can't macro target them
mild thunder
rip, but fair
would be kinda aids if fire mages and shit could just macro fire blast that stuff
lean burrow
is there a macro that works for targeting fel obelisk, psyfiend etc? can still b...
nugtotemicon
big ass icon on top of them
lucid walrus
imagine if it were just as easy as
/tar Grounding Totem
/cast Heroic Throw
agile aspen
i think you mean remember when it was as easy as
lucid walrus
idk when that would've been ngl
mild thunder
fucking finally
green wyvern
no rewards for 3k unfortunately
steel trout
rewards
green wyvern
there's no reason to continue after you get legend
mild thunder
i might push legend near end of season
steel trout
play for fun 💯
mild thunder
idek how i got it myself
mild thunder
the biggest grind was actually getting queues to pop
mild thunder
my ego was telling me to get it before the buffs come through
will probs chill next week and just level alts before 10.0.5
lucid walrus
smart, yeah
mild thunder
ele shaman is disgustingly fun
lucid walrus
i bet tbh
elfin surge
fucking finally
Grats my warrior brother
lucid walrus
seeing it get run over in triple melee lobbies is fun
mild thunder
Grats my warrior brother
❤️
mild thunder
seeing it get run over in triple melee lobbies is fun
yea if you get left alone/can sit back you're literally a turret, but getting trained by melee feels a bit rough
but its also my first time playing much caster, and i get that panic when im trained
lucid walrus
ele's wall is pretty solid but if you get jumped in a stun you're off to a bad start
mild thunder
knockback is good, but if you fuck up the positioning when you cast it, its useless
lucid walrus
only thing you can really do is multitask playing support. keep flame shocks, purge something, kite
the number of times i've blundered spear bc the ele knocks as soon as the other team connects
mild thunder
yea healers that actually know to dispel flame shock makes it a bit rougher, then you seem to have to focus a lot more on your prime wave/stormkeeper go instead of just the sporadic procs
lucid walrus
it gets interesting for sure
mild thunder
but defs one of the more fun alts ive picked up in a while
basically like playing a lottery machine with all the dopamine hits through lava surge
digital crater
fucking finally
Yoo grats
lean burrow
i might push legend near end of season
but then season ends and you can't flex the title
mild thunder
i think he said he's cutting down this xpac because of all the complaints
fickle forge
@elfin surge Don't be a puss, claim 10 R1 spots
warped warren
i think he said he's cutting down this xpac because of all the complaints <:keks...
beta mentality
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> Don't be a puss, claim 10 R1 spots
kitty is pretty good...
but i need to find a team willing to do it with me
mild thunder
but i need to find a team willing to do it with me
i'll reroll feral for you, dw
10k per win tho, i dont carry for free
elfin surge
warped warren
undone pumice
Mental orgasm when i 50% to zero a mage
physical for me
pearl prism
sage raptor
Not really but "good" is subjective
muted surge
Is there a way to see hunters hp bar after they feign death? Feels like 50/50 if I see it for the rest of the round after they feigned
Or are the default nameplates just fucked
torpid roost
Spinning gets rid of that shit?
mild thunder
Spinning gets rid of that shit?
yea just flick your camera upwards kinda
or get threatplates
lean burrow
Is there a way to see hunters hp bar after they feign death? Feels like 50/50 if...
plater
torpid roost
Huh, gotcha, thanks
that's probably why the problem resolves periodically, didn't know why
minor heath
would u guys drop 20 ilvls on legs and 9 on chest to get 2 set for arms in shuffle?
flat dome
arcane mages are dumb
mild thunder
would u guys drop 20 ilvls on legs and 9 on chest to get 2 set for arms in shuff...
nope
ilev >>> tier set
minor heath
okok ty, i expected it for fury but though for arms the difference maybe was worth it
mild thunder
its nice, but its still a very small dps gain
you're gonna get way more out of the vers to start with
steel trout
legs and chest tier has vers on it tho
so u dont even lose much vers from it
more abt mainstat
mortal elm
so i was on 4 round win, someone rage quited cause he was always targeted
he left, i got 8 rating while whole lobby received 0
why someone leaving punishes whole lobby in solo shuffle
stuck mulch
Good design
minor heath
yes shoulders have good stats too
i'll give it a try, ty!
sharp tusk
isnt there changes to solo shuffle in the patch? for leavers
steel trout
-150 mmr -150 cr for leaving