pvp

[timid kiln]

guess i gotta respec for pvpeeee

[quick carbon]

i hope none of u q into ua locks rn

praying for u all

[smoky anchor]

ua locks?

affliction?

[quick carbon]

yes

if uu get them in ur game might as well just afk

cuz ur not winning

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047705042540568626/1064353532511277076/Screenshot_20230115-192017.jpg?width=216&height=468

id be devastated

[mild thunder]

yep versed one earlier

surprise surprise, he went 6-0

[quick carbon]

lmao

owned

OUTPLAYED

LMAO1!!11!1

[mild thunder]

outplayed by unhealable damage

[tardy flame]

Just Spell Reflect. Easy

[gaunt scaffold]

Just get more health EZ

[smoky anchor]

wait lol what

what was that

[tardy flame]

So glad I got my 2100 on the weekend before the Deathbolt gnonsense

[quick carbon]

LMAOOOO

ID BE FUCKING SICK LMAO

[copper hare]

yeah everyones starting now after the clip https://www.twitch.tv/dakkroth/clip/EvilSmallParrotDancingBaby-7HpnrapQG2Esy9Bq

[smoky anchor]

is that a bug

[copper hare]

enjoy the next 2-3 days

[smoky anchor]

it's a bug right

obviously

[quick carbon]

id avoid

the arena

for a few days

[worthy fern]

How are they doing that?

[smoky anchor]

Yes how are they doing that? for educational purposes only

honestly sounds like free kills if i just hold on to spell reflect and make a weakaura for it

[quick carbon]

ppl r spell reflecting it

it isnt 1 shotting them back

so

get owned

[smoky anchor]

ah i guess

i don't have any dots on the target

[tardy flame]

Spec Rend and TR!

[smoky anchor]

is mage ever gonna be cracked in solo shuffle

or do i just go level an evoker/lock/shaman

shit even balance druid is cracked right now

[frank knoll]

No idea how they’re doing it, Russians found it last I heard

Lock disc was trying to figure it out

[torpid roost]

lmfao that was my gimmick spec when I played lock

I should level my little retard to 70

[desert root]

playing low ratings 3s with my bro and we just randomly get shit on by r1 xp feral lmao

glads at 1600

is there any point in even trying atm in 3s

[mild thunder]

yes

more people need to play so that rating can inflate

[desert root]

feels really hard atm m8

[mild thunder]

... what

[torpid roost]

does nobody play because they enjoy the competition?

[mild thunder]

i enjoy having my ego lightly stroked by rankings in a video game

[torpid roost]

doin' the five knockle shuffle across yer piss pump

still trying for the perfect game (6-0, 6kb) while I'm low rated

[mild thunder]

going 6-0 as arms feels pretty dope

[mystic barn]

well yea thats the point of climbing

but its also fun to bang out on noobs

[smoky anchor]

boomkins are super good, great damage and utility

[dreamy heath]

what gems should i put on my? neck

my neck?*

[smoky anchor]

vers crit for arms

i think

plus a str vers gem

[dreamy heath]

what about fury

[smoky anchor]

haste insteard of crit

[dreamy heath]

ty

[coral axle]

3s being deflated is tough on the epeen, I was healing for a glad player and a R1 player and we were legit struggling at 1900

Made me think damn bro am I really so heavy we can't break 2k???

[smoky anchor]

well a lot of ppl who were just yoloing since there wasn't solo shuffle are also no longer there

[coral axle]

Yeah even with the queue time it's clearly more fun for most people to play SS

Tbh I enjoy it more than random lfg too

Dps anyways, healing is more fun in 3s

[long ridge]

bro...............

[torpid roost]

I changed nothing about my spec, gear, or playstyle and I'm still on third world internet, and I'm climbing like crazy now.... I will never understand this fucking MMR system

like the math behind it must be some genuinely arcane shit

[long ridge]

i waited an hour in queue to gain 1 pt

while fucking double melee train me all 6 rounds

[torpid roost]

get rid of die by the sword

give us retaliation back

[brazen rock]

we got IP back, be happy.

[outer parcel]

reached 1250 Xd then i dropped to 1060 again XD as arms

[mild thunder]

boomy is probably the worst caster in the game

across every piece of content

[coral axle]

yeah either that or fire

dont think anything else is close

I feel like boomy damage is pretty pathetic compared to the good casters

[thick reef]

Pretty sure being a 1400 Andy this season is like being a Rival otherwise

[mild thunder]

boomies are lucky to hit 60k max crits

[coral axle]

meanwhile demo's tyrant is critting for 100k

[mild thunder]

yea boomy in a pretty rough spot

happy for fire to be dead tho

especially now that combust isnt dispellable

[smoky anchor]

feel like it's impossible to stop boomkin damage tho

do you just ignore them

they cc the shit out of my healer all the time too

[mild thunder]

i havent versed many of them, but every time i do they get farmed

so yea idk, would need to see before i can say anything

[desert root]

1600 rn 3s feel sweaty af but wasnt too bad overall

today

[south kestrel]

mate

survivng against a shaman and a pally on the same team

very hard

[torpid roost]

120k LB what

[south kestrel]

D Stance, Reflect, DBTS still died

[tardy flame]

Reflect, reflect Lightning Shield apparently, take 120k insta-cast Lightning Bolt, cry

[full quiver]

[pearl prism]

Last night i dreamt that i was 2.7k rating in solo shuffle

but when i woke up and logged on, i was only 1200 rating

[slow dust]

you're at least getting cr 😢

[mild thunder]

too relateable

[smoky anchor]

this ret was dying so he ran behind a pillar to los me for .1 seconds and his healer in a stormbolt

200 iq play

are you guys taking rend?

it does kind of a lot of damage and is nice rage user

[tardy flame]

I tried Rend for a little while. Did not like

[south kestrel]

what are you dumping rage on then

slam?

[torpid roost]

MS/execute, slam, string

rend should be good I just hate it

I am aware that this is a silly reason to not take it

but I'm sticking to it

[tame sphinx]

yeah i wasnt a fan of bleed build

[south kestrel]

is not bleed build, you can just take rend

[low lake]

why are fury warriors running hack and slash in pvp when they run annihilator

[mild thunder]

because they have a negative IQ
we shouldn't judge, we need to be patient and understanding of them

[low lake]

I mean they're making it to 2000+ it just goes to show how braindead fury can be lol

[south kestrel]

Man can rets just fuck off

last 3 games just lost rating because they target my healer and just blow them up

lmao

so cringe

[smoky anchor]

heard locks are getting perma banned for using it

[lean burrow]

good

[smoky anchor]

ranking of burst dps

prob all this crap is aoe against demo locks

oh nvm excludes pet damage

[knotty atlas]

I call bs, prot warrior isn't there.

[sacred linden]

What the hell is that warlock damage?

[smoky anchor]

https://wowarenalogs.com/stats?tab=spec-stats&bracket=Rated Solo Shuffle&sortKey=burst

[smoky anchor]

ohhhh so that's how it works

makes sense

[sacred linden]

Wtf lol

[lean burrow]

warriors should have instant death ability

not warlocks

imagine reflecting that deathbolt

[smoky anchor]

you can refelct it but it doesn't do any damage when u do

what spec is this

combat?

the old icon?

[steel trout]

Dispatch

Outlaw skill

[smoky anchor]

ohh right

i wonder why they use that as the icon

[mystic barn]

GOD YES WOO IM SO EXCITED TO RE EXPERIENCE THIS TIMELINE AGAIN OF DEATH BOLT SUPERIORITY

[sage raptor]

It's a secret. Shhhhh

[knotty atlas]

[south kestrel]

10 rating for a 4-2

Pog

[sage raptor]

107k shield charge the other day

Just wait until I get more gear

[steel trout]

Surely they fix this bug 😐

[spice hornet]

that fury number is interesting lol

feel like furys burst is kinda dog ass

[south kestrel]

Its good in aoe situations

St idk

[mild thunder]

bug? no no, this is balance

[sharp meteor]

That'd be funny.

Just fried a critter with a ua>db and then db'd a target dummy for 2 million.

[lean burrow]

critter don't instantly die?

[next herald]

How Long can i delay warbreaker to Line IT with MS/execute or avater ?

[dense herald]

bois

whats the best race for warrior

its always changing

first orc then human then night elf then dwarf then di dwarf

[wheat jay]

Di dwarf or human

Orc if you're horde

[dense herald]

yh but which is better

[undone pumice]

dwarf

[dense herald]

😭

they so ugly tho

[undone pumice]

wear armor

[mild thunder]

racials only really matter at the top, top level

play w/e looks aesthetically best because that's what's gonna affect you the most tbh

[lean burrow]

play human if you love yourself

play dwarf if you are short irl

play orc if you hate yourself

[mild thunder]

i hate myself and am short irl

what do i do

[lean burrow]

play goblin

[steel trout]

play dwarf and use imorph

😎

[mild thunder]

need to make a Manlets United guild

[unreal knot]

Hello 👋

Any tips for a Port warrior trying to reach 1800 - 2vs2

*prot

[agile aspen]

ret damage outta control

mine has blue weapon and no conq and it hit a DH for 380k in 2 GCDs

outplayed idiot

[gaunt scaffold]

Just get more health 5head

[undone pumice]

we need more races for people above 6'4

[south kestrel]

Yeah its so stupid man

[undone pumice]

because im not gonna play a nelf lmao

[slender spear]

looks like arms is king for warrior again?

Arms vs Fury, is one so much simpler its easier to push with?

[agile aspen]

like fury is braindead but arms has real buttons

arms objectively better but also feels like u have more agency over the match

[steep inlet]

reported this 800k deathbolt shit to blizz discord

hotfix incoming very soon

[mild thunder]

can you report ret next

[steep inlet]

tbh its counterable

leap, disarm (my brother is mglad ret and told me its annoying for them) reflect for magical reduce

parry

leap away is best

[mild thunder]

what does disarm even stop

[steep inlet]

dont know exactly but he told me it stop few of their shits

[mild thunder]

to the best of my knowledge all it stops is crusader strike (lol) and justicar's vengeance

[steep inlet]

dunno didnt play ret since wod

[mild thunder]

so maybe annoying, but probs not worth taking/effective enough most of the time

[steep inlet]

best is leap away anw

[mild thunder]

yep

[steep inlet]

with their wheelchair

[unreal knot]

Doesn’t disarm all take away the stats of the weapon?

can the rest of the spells really be effective without the weapon?

[steep inlet]

think too ?

[unreal knot]

I’m not sure - just asking

[fresh kite]

Even worth it to go fury in arena?

[mild thunder]

yep

[unreal knot]

Ok

[mild thunder]

decree + final reck is their biggest damage and it can only be silenced

i think

[unreal knot]

I love playing against arms or fury in 2vs2 as a prot warrior - they don’t stand a chance 🥴

[mild thunder]

prot player

[unreal knot]

I know .. I just love playing prot man - wish it would be easier as a prot in arena though

[mild thunder]

i have a good solution to tanks in arena

ban them 🙂

[agile aspen]

tanks were only ok when they got all their mitigation stacks from gear

seems like an insane waste of time to balance them now

[unreal knot]

Why do you think so?

[unreal knot]

You’re not the first person I heard they are not happy with prot warriors in arena - but why?

[mild thunder]

not just prot, all tanks in pvp

it shouldnt be an option for competitive play, doesnt make sense in an arena platform, only ever provides anti-fun game mechanics

im probably okay with them in rbg's, but i'd also happily see them banned there as well

[unreal knot]

Fair point - I can see why it can be frustrating to play against tanks in arenas

[mild thunder]

it'll never happen, but its part of my wow dream

[lean burrow]

I think it also stops blade of justice

since it's phys damage

despite being fucking magic with a giant blade rising from the ground

[mild thunder]

i dont think it does from memory

[cyan heath]

what wep enchants do we want

fury

[elfin surge]

ban tanks from pvp

[left scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cast-them-out-hiram-epps-them-ban-them-get-them-out-of-here-gif-21090715

[pseudo star]

what pvp talents do you go against mage/boomkin/shadowpriest?

im noob and its pretty much alltime my go to

[undone pumice]

crusader strike got buffed it does like

dmg now

50k rotational spell

[flat dome]

Wish they brought back Glad stance

[graceful ginkgo]

More like 100k

Maybe 150k

[warm portal]

Crusader strike still hits for fuck all

[sage raptor]

I was just about to ask why wow players instinctively go straight to removing things instead of giving ideas on how to fix it.

Removing things is the laziest solution ever.

[next herald]

Lel Tell me how you wanna fix Tanks in Arena then

[elfin surge]

cuz blizzard cant balance the game

[sage raptor]

There's literally a plethora of ideas that work

[next herald]

I think its easy to say "there are 10000 possibilities to fix it" but in the end its probably way more complicated than Most think. Sorry but removing is also a Kind of fixing / changing Game mechanics

[austere niche]

do resto shams need to be in melee?

[sage raptor]

Nerf tank defensives and buff their dam a little. Rework pvp talents to make tanks more of a support role that people have been asking for. BRM, prot warr and prot pally are already in this direction. I could go on and on.

[copper hare]

Depends on the situation. Sometimes yeah, constantly no

[sage raptor]

I never see them. Are they not good rn?

I've only seen one hpal too.

[teal cedar]

what addons do people like for arenas?

[sage raptor]

Gladius or GladiusEX

Weak Auras ofc

A lot use a nameplate addon

[teal cedar]

any big diff between gladius / EX - or just pref?

[sage raptor]

I think it's just pref

[next herald]

Do they Count as dps or healer then ? If they Count as dps could there be groups Like 2x prot 1x healer ? If thes Count as healer whats with the Specs that rely on heal ? No more fun for those classes then. Balance their utility around PvP only or does it affect PVE and create huge gap ?

[sage raptor]

A huge gap between pve and pvp?

You're joking right?

I didn't read it right. Dyslexia again.

Dude idk I'm just giving basic ideas. I said rework pvp talents not their utility. Idek why you're still on it. I already moved on lol.

Prot pal can be considered a healer, sure.

[undone pumice]

it used to be so giga op healer

now it got nerfed

and still occupies that

[south kestrel]

would be nice for there to be a game without a DK for once

[undone pumice]

dk try not to make game unfun challenge impossible

they also make discord unfun

[next herald]

Yeah thats what i basically say - its easy af to Just throw ideas into the Pot but its probably Always Not this easy to implement those things in the end. And idk what you mean by "i moved on lol" but i Just Defended my stand and thought youd be interested to Talk about your own topic you started with

[sage raptor]

Okay since you want to get into it, fine.

Could've just ignored it but NO. You HAVE to be adamant about removing things. Here is a FULL list on how to fix it.

With every tank spec pvp talent reworked and what they do with numbers.

I am just autistic enough to do this at 7am

[muted surge]

Remove prot

Cancer spec

[undone pumice]

which 1

[muted surge]

Yes

[undone pumice]

statbug or flashbang

[sage raptor]

Wish I could remove dh

[muted surge]

Tank just has no space in the current format

[undone pumice]

5v5

[sage raptor]

I wonder of people will bring that back

[next herald]

Well i do Not insist on you doing that but i Hope you Understand what i mean

[sage raptor]

Too late. Like the dk discord, I see I have to go into excruciating detail or points will be missed.

[grand scaffold]

bruh

i said hi

and somebody left

game didnt even start

[muted surge]

Would do the same

Rounds won 6?

[grand scaffold]

😂

nobody won 6 rounds

thats a ui bug

is that from the previous game?

[cobalt crystal]

yo, been trying some soloq and I consistently get losing streaks.. I try to keep my defensives used well.. D-stance, DbtS. But I feel I die so easily, and my dmg feels lacking. Not sure if its my build or if I am just giga-trash. As arms btw, anyone able to give some advice, and / or a good build I can try, with some tips on how to best use it?

[next herald]

Well then lets Go - maybe we can send it to blizz headquarter Afterwards and they hotfix the Changes overnight

[grand scaffold]

yo

are you on na?

[cobalt crystal]

no EU

[grand scaffold]

dang

well i cant duel you to see whats going wrong

send me your build

[copper hare]

That's pretty toxic I would have left aswell

[grand scaffold]

remove honed reflexes for bitter immunity

remove concussive blows its garbage

get barbaric training instead

remove shattering throw shouldnt be there by default

[sage raptor]

nope. specifically for you. expect a pdf.

[grand scaffold]

only for when you are needing it

get 5% stamina

swap warbreaker for blunt instruments

whats your stats

[grand scaffold]

😂

[next herald]

Thanks Mate - expecting Nothing but the best

😂

[cobalt crystal]

lot of crit, almost no haste.. and (unfortunately) 19% mastery.

[grand scaffold]

holy shit your mastery is high

[cobalt crystal]

yeah..

its on everything T_T

[grand scaffold]

uh

prob get some haste

mastery isnt bad tho

big hits

whats your cr atm

[cobalt crystal]

went all the way down to 1400's

[grand scaffold]

what were you before

[cobalt crystal]

peak as arms has been 1741 or so.

[grand scaffold]

interesting

when did you start playing warrior

[cobalt crystal]

SL was when I started rated PvP. season 1. only ever really did 2's though.

got 1.8k and stopped cause I just wanted the elite sets : P

[zenith marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19493608

[grand scaffold]

do you mind recording your gameplay and posting it on pvp gameplay

[zenith marlin]

average arms warrior

game play

[grand scaffold]

i can probably see some errors

[grand scaffold]

this gif doesnt even move

nvm it does

lmao

[grand scaffold]

record gameplay

[royal lake]

Any general tips for 2v2 with arms + holy pally?

[grand scaffold]

btw getting out from sub 2k is a shit hole so dont be suprised if team mates have a lot to do with it

[cobalt crystal]

aight, will get around to it!

[sage raptor]

I drank some hot cocoa and I feel better. I am sorry.

[grand scaffold]

we back in business bois

blademaster ftw

[muted surge]

I like your arena frames

[grand scaffold]

thanks!

;D

😄

[grand scaffold]

i made them just big enough for omnicd to have 2 rows to fit

yo

your build got me back to 2100

thank you so much my guy

[copper hare]

if you use plater and have bad awareness where your mates are on the map

https://wago.io/9DJAuod-L that's a life saver

[grand scaffold]

holy shit

that is amazing

do you have a plater profile for me

super tempted to get that addon now

[copper hare]

threat plates has the same feature afaik

well yeah but it's really weird and I made it so I can use it in both pve and pvp

[grand scaffold]

thats cool

can you send me the pvp profile

i use nameplateauras atm

its chaotic to look at

threatplates atm doesnt seem to be compatible with big debuffs

[dense herald]

[dense herald]

why not

[dense herald]

thats what hardstuck ppl say

ik cuz im hardstuck

[grand scaffold]

what

thank God i havent seen that

[dense herald]

he prob had

modifiers

or was it in arena

[copper hare]

check pm

[grand scaffold]

i saw it

[copper hare]

tried to keeping it clean, using big debuffs aswell

[grand scaffold]

thanks man

😄

[copper hare]

U know how to install plater mods?

like the icon one

[grand scaffold]

nope

is it hard?

[copper hare]

you go on the wago link, click import

[grand scaffold]

btw

can you click on the class icons above their heads?

[copper hare]

then you click modding here https://gyazo.com/e220ea5f2866d3adc0e6a0b64408fed0

then import here https://gyazo.com/8bb7a83c6ad06dd27e42eec7e28f3d3b

[cobalt crystal]

No, bro.. I stopped when I finished the set. Please don't push your situation on me

[copper hare]

nah, but it's better to have macros anyways for that

[dense herald]

🙏

[grand scaffold]

i cant handle that many keybinds

also is there a way of making them ever so slightly smaller

[steel trout]

haha im sure its not the build, good job

[copper hare]

you can, you into Modding again, click on "Class Icons Friendly Players", make sure it's checked in the first place, then you click on the Add Hook "Constructor"

[grand scaffold]

thanks man

;D

😄

[copper hare]

And then here https://gyazo.com/fd87f8f9c7f1803349d3a1f1b0495752

[crude bane]

you have the same on trheat plate

[copper hare]

where the line 50, 50 is, which is 60, 60 by default, you can adjust the numbers

[grand scaffold]

i dont use threatplates

it doesnt work with bigdebuffs

[crude bane]

im using blizzard defaut cause im a boomer

anyway

[grand scaffold]

blizzard defaults doesnt show time left on debuffs

which is the only reason i dont use it

[undone pumice]

disgusting creatures

[grand scaffold]

taurens are the yuckiest

they got an ass scraching animation

[undone pumice]

stfu

big cow

big chad

big biceps

[copper hare]

nah it's just fat

[grand scaffold]

dont tell me you play tauren

[dense herald]

i pl ay a night elf

😭

[grand scaffold]

nelf is nice

[copper hare]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6SJ0g7lLirI

tauren players

[grand scaffold]

😂

[dense herald]

its trash for tmog

😭

[grand scaffold]

for plate its not great for tmog

[undone pumice]

tauren bis

[dense herald]

ye

[grand scaffold]

for rogue other types of tmog its great

[dense herald]

im warrior nelf

[dense herald]

that is so true

but im too bored to lvl one

[opaque sundial]

What percentage of crit and haste is ideal for arms warrior?

[copper hare]

there are no break points

crit is your best stat after vers and how much haste you wanna have depends on you

[grand scaffold]

yo manof

[opaque sundial]

Okay one of those things just how it feels

[grand scaffold]

how much haste would you say is good to have

[undone pumice]

haste good

[long ridge]

AGAIN?!?!?!

[muted surge]

1 rating, nice

[grand scaffold]

well

3/3

better than 0

[rigid wyvern]

hello pvp people. what addons would you say are good for arena? i am going to try some pvp as arms with 0 experience so want to make things easier on myself

[grand scaffold]

omnicd

plater

details

gladiusex

weakauras

big debuffs

bge

[rigid wyvern]

is there any specific WA profile that people use or should I just edit mine

[grand scaffold]

i dont even have weakauras

probably get mes weakauras

[blazing maple]

Any good bleed builds for arms?

[frank knoll]

You think I’ll get banned for doing the deathbolt exploit in an unrated BG

[modern pollen]

is it worth not getting a tricket bonus as orc since it doesnt stack?

[sage raptor]

nahh

[blazing maple]

It will give reduction on other cc

Orc racial only for stun

[modern pollen]

true

[blazing maple]

Plus you need the stam anyway

[modern pollen]

I guess its still worth getting the boot aswell then

[blazing maple]

Ye free 424 gear

And head

[grand scaffold]

dont play them atm

i tried them

not great

[blazing maple]

Reallt?

Is unhinged the goto?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[blazing maple]

I see

[modern pollen]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIpUSSAAAAAJEJJakAERjSkEgmEhEAJRCAAAAAAAAJUSSIAA

[dreamy heath]

What’s better for fury the conquest 2H sword or the conquest polearm

[modern pollen]

sword

[teal cedar]

anyone know what addon is making this bar?

[long ridge]

maybe threat plates

[frosty meadow]

That just looks like the personal resource bar that, but dunno about the skin

[flat dome]

Lol, this deathbolt nonsense

[long ridge]

i thought polearm was better for fury

but u wanna go arms anyway so get sword for arms 🙂

i would wait until vault tmr though, go arms spec to get possible 2ndr

[dreamy heath]

I Alr got 2 polarms I was just making sure I’ve had them awhile so I just wanted to check

[long ridge]

sword is crit... arms likes crit but fury likes haste right

[teal cedar]

thx that was it. skin was from plater

[next herald]

I know that feel bro 👍

[elfin surge]

this is one of the coolest mounts in game

[dreamy heath]

The swords vers crit and the polearm is vers mastery

[long ridge]

oh.. for fury mastery>crit but

[dreamy heath]

That’s what I was thinking

[long ridge]

fury sucks compared to arms so i'd rather have sword

[next herald]

How do you Guys manage to Track hamstring ? There is No Option in bigdebuffs for slows

[flat dome]

There should be

[next herald]

You need to do 3s for the mount right

[royal lake]

Is the arms bleed build viable in PVP? With Skullsplitter and tides of blood?

[next herald]

I didnt find IT - online in some Forums ppl Said there was No setting for slows, but it may was an older Version

[elfin surge]

yea

[crude bane]

isnt obtainable in solo ?

[elfin surge]

it is not.

[muted surge]

It’s the glad mount

So gotta get glad

[steep inlet]

guys

is there a lot of world pvp in EU servers while pexing ?

wondering to xp an alt here instead of french servers

[long ridge]

i use threatplates to manage hamstring

i imported bajeera's profile which is a very simple one

[civic dust]

What stat weights are best atm for arms

Like do we just crit stack or get a %haste then go crit

[viscid pawn]

hey is there a macro where i can switch to battle stance and cast spear at the same time

[long ridge]

okay i'm done for the season w/ SS

had my best lobby ever

yes there is a macro

#showtooltip Spear of Bastion
/use [form:1] !Battle Stance
/cast [known:War Banner] War Banner
/cast Avatar
/use Crimson Aspirant's Badge of Ferocity
/cast Spear of Bastion

don't abuse it though it makes arms warrior S tier /s

[elfin surge]

2100 pog

[long ridge]

yeah fuck it i'm not queueing anymore 😛

[elfin surge]

😎

[viscid pawn]

xd

[royal lake]

Wait, are you just supposed to be sat in defensive stance till you want to burst?

[viscid pawn]

i just sometimes forget to switch back from def stance and usually when i cast spear its because im doing dmg

[long ridge]

if you are the kill target

with two melee on you

then yeah you wanna go dstance

until you can pop all your shit

[civic dust]

does this work with unhinged

popping ava before spear

[long ridge]

not rly

if that's the case maybe u put spear first idk

w/ unhinged it will do bladefury then i press again for spear O_O

i only play unhinged vs double melee though

and i've found that if they're on you or your melee friend you can go on the healer and cleave all 3, works really well

otherwise i play warlord and EP which macro works better w/

[keen zephyr]

can someone help me out please? im extremely bad at arena and am breaking my balls with fury just to reach 1500 solo :S idk what to do

[late nacelle]

Play arms

[turbid ember]

Are you familiar with all of your keybindings enough to use them reactively as opposed to questioning it?

Do you tunnel vision at a certain point? Do you often look at whats going on around you?

[keen zephyr]

I tend to tunnel because there is so much going on yes

[keen zephyr]

I thought fury was good 😮

[turbid ember]

That's what you'll need to work on first and foremost, that comes with getting comfortable with arena

[late nacelle]

Horrible spec

[short sable]

Is it really horrible tho

[cobalt crystal]

Is Slam ever worth using at all, even with Barbaric Training, or is that talent just picked to unlock the path to Endurance Training and nothing else?

[turbid ember]

I think its fine for someone that's starting

[late nacelle]

It is pretty bad imo

[upper pelican]

did the rating for the pvp pieces change?

i'm 1.6 and im still missin a lotta pieces

[turbid ember]

Is it BiS? No. But it has A LOT more survivability (for now)

[short sable]

1.8 unlocks full set

For tmog

[upper pelican]

nice cuz i got it when i was 1.8 in my warr

but in pala im 1.6 and still missin quite a lot

[turbid ember]

When you're at that level I think its important to get comfortable in the arena and the longer the matches the better

If he goes in as arms and dies within 15 seconds he won't learn anything

[late nacelle]

Just get on the arms train

Its already better than fury by quite a bit

And when ignore pain comes arms is S tier

[turbid ember]

Its like you didn't even listen to what he's saying

[late nacelle]

Dont need to

Literally go arms right now

[keen zephyr]

I am kinda confused now

[gloomy birch]

What's the full send with arms? stack overpower, ava, colossus smash, ms then bladestorm? Just started today with it 😅

[turbid ember]

Just keep playing games and prepare yourself for some humility

[turbid ember]

How many total arena games have you played?

Approximately

[keen zephyr]

236 rounds this addon only solo

[late nacelle]

Depends on ur build

[gloomy birch]

One linked here earlier, no bleeds and unhinged

Spear in there as well I suppose lol, forgot that one

[steel trout]

iits just for endurance traaining

[cobalt crystal]

Ok, thanks

[late nacelle]

I'd guess it'd be something like
Charge + Sweeping strikes > hamstring > MS > OP > OP > Stormbolt > CS > Spear > MS > Bladestorm > MS > Bladestorm

[indigo gulch]

do we want 10% haste as arms?

[late nacelle]

Probably skip out on blademaster tbh

[turbid ember]

Try to focus on one new thing a match. Like stormbolting the healer or pummeling the healer, just try and look at what the healer is doing at some point in the game

[late nacelle]

So u can ava when u cs

[gloomy birch]

Cool beans, ty

[turbid ember]

You don't hamstring first gcd?

[keen zephyr]

Alright thank you very much, I'll try that

[turbid ember]

Once you get past tunnel vision then arena really opens up and is a lot of fun

[late nacelle]

Technically not, u half gcd sweeping during charge, then the first gcd is hamstring

[turbid ember]

Oh, that's smart. Are they still typically rooted when GCD is up?

I just bake hamstring into charge for my macro, a classic

[indigo gulch]

so i got the 421 pvp weapon with trophy's of strife, should i just skip the conquest weapon and go for other pieces?

[long ridge]

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

you definitely can do that, yeah

then get it later or in vault

[indigo gulch]

i think its like 18 dps less

[coral axle]

fury is good if not better than arms at low rating, as it's tankier and harder to mess up, also healers are a lot worse so you can still somehow threaten people without reck/ava

it just falls off hard once people learn how to play

[long ridge]

fury used to be the go to

now it's arms

[pure hornet]

I think arms is leagues ahead atm

[wooden canyon]

Is there any document or similar of notes for most matchups etc for arms? i know there has been such before

[pure hornet]

But maibe next year they balance. Or maibe this summer. I love arms more anyway. But i think they should get a chance to be worked around weaknesses. To make both somwhow viable

[late nacelle]

Yes, sweeping strikes gcd is shorter than normal gcd

[turbid ember]

That'll help my opening a bit, thanks!

[indigo gulch]

anyone know what stats are on the pvp tier set?

trying to decide what off pieces to buy

[steel trout]

legs haste vers, hands crit mastery, chest crit vers, head mastery haste

shoulders vers haste

[long ridge]

wtf is this war

[rustic parrot]

Hey, which trinkets should I use at Human Fury Warrior for PvP?

[coral axle]

full send double damage trinks

between zerker rage, human racial, and being able to wall in a stun who needs pvp trink?

[indigo gulch]

ty

[rustic parrot]

I should use gladiator trinkets anyway right? Just picking the damage ones?

[long ridge]

yes u have to do the set

[steel trout]

BM is fine too but only in games where u think u will be focused

[long ridge]

proc and on use

and yes hp trinket when ur main target

if u got an ench on ur team or ret or hunter or havoc or ww or some shit they might not go on you

ele, shadow

destro, dev

but if your partners are tanky they gonna go u

unholy dk etc

[rustic parrot]

Thanks man I dont know anything about pvp but just want the mount you know 🙂

[long ridge]

cool ele has all instant cast dmg

[coral axle]

to make things easier macro avatar, reck, and ur pvp on-use trinket together for a one shot macro, you can then stormbolt, pop the macro, spear, 2112112112 dead

[grand scaffold]

no

piercing howl

[long ridge]

how do i report someone in arena

mastacasta-dunemaul just used the deathbolt exploit

[mortal elm]

he yy hey

i have a pve 401 ilvl, and wanna get 406? for solo shuffle queueing

is honor level can help me with that?

honor gear*

[coral axle]

the honor gear is i411

only takes a few hours in bgs to get a full set, its ~11k honor

[mortal elm]

ah i see

i might not need the full set though, have a 4 set already so might buy 4 5 pieces and trink set

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/eeda4141ff9f7e9f32d708fa27ad78c2

0 cast sham

lvl 63

kekw

[uneven turret]

which dps trinket for arms?

[long ridge]

i went into warlock discord to tell them they're bitches for using deathbolt exploit

and they are all saying arms is OP and warlock sucks

lol

[crude bane]

dude it was retpal discord

[long ridge]

warrior literally on the bottom

[royal delta]

Is prot any good as FC in rbgs?

[long ridge]

guys warrior is OP did you know

yeah it's fine

[sage raptor]

Yeah

[crude bane]

if you heard any babycry discord

its retpal

discord

[sage raptor]

Post that in the lock disc

[royal delta]

Nice, was hoping there would be some options after Shadowlands being guardian only

[crude bane]

this is why on dont break 2K7

too many dh and lock i pref stuck 1K9

more warrior

300 iq

[coral axle]

2700 isnt very many people tho right? or is that SS

[sage raptor]

Yeah I can get on the other side pretty fast thanks to movement speed talent and dragon charge on 20 second cd

[long ridge]

it's all, 2s, 3s, shuffle

they dont allow images in lock disc but i typed it out

and they said warrior is S tier not B tier and that I'm a scrub

[coral axle]

theres a chart that compares the % of people at 1600 compared to 2200 and warrior is also at the bottom of that

tons of wars hardstuck low ratings

gets hard when people dont just fall over to the swifty one shot

[crude bane]

im strugglign at warrior

idk why

maybe its a hard class

[coral axle]

there are only 4 warriors over 2400 in 3s damn

[long ridge]

it's not hard

at all

but

[crude bane]

dayum im that bad

[long ridge]

you get hard countered by a lot of stuff

[high sparrow]

thats obviously because all the good players play high iq classes only, not warrior!11!!1

[long ridge]

yeah warlock is super high IQ

just like havoc and shadow

[coral axle]

no class is free 2400 rating anymore, still gotta play better than the other ppl

[long ridge]

go against marksman hunter and ele

[coral axle]

tbf i've gotten 6 specs to at least 1800 now and destro was by far the hardest

lock is a lot harder than warrior, esp if ur not playing demo

[long ridge]

or unholy dk and rdruid, arcane mage, whatever or something and you can't win

[crude bane]

i feel like warrior dont fit me

the gameplay

[coral axle]

go try soemthing else

this xpack is perfect for alts

[crude bane]

as warrior i want to stick healer and cleave

yeah i reroll WW

[long ridge]

sometimes that is great

but othertimes u gotta switch around

[crude bane]

DH is in the line

[long ridge]

peel, swap on defensives or out of range

[crude bane]

farming honor rn

[long ridge]

u gotta hit what u can

like i said though sometimes you just cannot outplay things

[high sparrow]

this

[long ridge]

like havoc and shadow before they got nerfed. now it's fine but 2 weeks ago u got fucking roasted and it's just balance issues

[high sparrow]

warrior feels like a 2010 class in a 2020 game

[crude bane]

100 % agreed

[long ridge]

paladin is above warrior in every bracket

O_O praise 10.0.5 hope it helps but still having fun

sad to be at the bottom tho

[high sparrow]

arms will probably be S tier with 10.0.5

[crude bane]

feelink like all classe are so much dynamic and fun

compare to warrior

[long ridge]

smash

[high sparrow]

but it doesnt change the fact that its just a numbers game

more up to date classes will still toy with ur kit kekw

[flat dome]

Ugh, facing ret/feral is such a nightmare

[elfin surge]

weak.

[crude bane]

[coral axle]

im just sticking out with warrior as my melee, the buffs in a couple weeks are gonna be some crazy shit

[elfin surge]

@crude bane rerolling. im out here about to level my 4th war up

[warm portal]

Did u make a gnome yet

[robust hamlet]

Man I feel like I’m really struggling with arms, I started as fury, and now I feel like paper, its like I’m trying to set up the dmg too much and taking too long to burst, maybe I just have a misunderstanding of the class as a whole, staying alive also hurts de brain

[elfin surge]

buggin is a level 60 gnome

[warm portal]

Make it 70

[elfin surge]

should

[indigo gulch]

can you change stats on infurious boots?

[warm portal]

No

[ebon sequoia]

It’s called having a pocket healer my friend

[robust hamlet]

[outer parcel]

well i went from 1200 to 900 again =/

[stiff nexus]

Happens brother.

[outer parcel]

having the same issue, feels like arms is just a one trick pony where fury atleast i felt i could take a hit

and no mather what i try xD i dont get those scary tricks so anyone know where to find it ?

[crude bane]

just saw a dh 196K the hunt

[pure hornet]

Why shufle taking so long timers

[steel trout]

too many dps too little healers

[pure hornet]

I guess healers have it easy

Elephant nose easy

[mild thunder]

I’m starting to doubt this… with how fast and high damage is atm, I don’t think 50k IP is going to be saving our lives very often

[pure hornet]

Yeah, bursty times

[high sparrow]

Its not only ip tho

[mild thunder]

We’ll definitely be in a better spot, but I don’t think we’ll be S tier

[high sparrow]

Our talent tree will be a lot better in general

[mild thunder]

No, but it’s the biggest change and one that’s supposed to fix our weakness

[flat dome]

I thought a full IP was around 100k?

[mild thunder]

It’s ~50k on ptr

[grand scaffold]

how tf

do i get a net change of -2 wins

and lose 48 rating

but when i win +2

i get 24

this is so stupid

my mmr was the same in both games

[flat dome]

Cause it's based on who you beat in each round

Which is why they are changing it to give rating, per round

[grand scaffold]

its so dumb

they already changed it to be that way btw

[gusty atlas]

Anyone know cooldown on IP?

[flat dome]

They did?

I know they changed it to give rating if someone leaves

It's coming in patch

[spice hornet]

hmm

did a lot of shuff firday, saw no affy locks

know exploit discovered on sat

first shuffle today has an affy

wonder if someone is gonna get domed here by a 800k deathbolt

[quick carbon]

arms is gonna b p broken brother

[quick carbon]

outplayed

[long ridge]

i went to warlock discord and they said warrior is op

[quick carbon]

lmfao

r they rlly defending it

[indigo gulch]

whats a good addon for enemy frames?

[long ridge]

not defending the exploit but they mock me and said they gonna use it against me

for complaining about it, and said warrior is mongo ez class better than warlock... except warrior makes up 1/3 of warlock representation in arena

[long ridge]

i use threatplates but plater and tidyplates are an option

or you mean not nameplates but frames.. gladiusex

[indigo gulch]

thanks

[quick carbon]

rep isnt correlation to whats better

i think war and warlock are closer than u think

[long ridge]

yeah i don't mean just representation

i mean like high rated rep

there is 3x more warlocks at high rating

[quick carbon]

aalot of them r probably

pre nerf

demo

abusers

[long ridge]

you can break it down by spec

every spec of warlock is above warrior lol

[quick carbon]

the gap between warrior aand lock was way bigger before the pvp changes

[sage raptor]

Did it happen?

[quick carbon]

alot of them r prob splay lsd players

pre nerf

[spice hornet]

nah he wasnt

[long ridge]

i lied affliction has 194 players above 2200 in US and arms has 395

demo and dest 359/371

but still locks as a whole are more common for sure

in high rating

unholy dk going strong 3rd place 771 people above 2200.. are they getting nerfed soon?

shadow and havoc got nerfed but they're still 1st/2nd snapshotted

[quick carbon]

i hope dk dam gets nerfed before their survivability

[long ridge]

yeah i dont mind that they are impossible to kill but they also do like top tier damage

looking at notes it looks like they are getting buffs... O_O

[quick carbon]

they arent impossible to kill

[long ridge]

you can kill unholy dks? 😮

[quick carbon]

ya

war can kill them

[long ridge]

i'm amazed

[quick carbon]

feral dh hunter can kill them

ret can kill them

rogue can kill them

[long ridge]

are you sure bro

[quick carbon]

demo can still kinda kill them

if ur a spell caster u just lose tho

kekw

actually nvm ele can kill them too

[long ridge]

they are 3rd best dps over 2200 and 1st/2nd just got nerfed into the ground

[quick carbon]

thr so high rep cuz

they win the game off of an unhealable go combined with momentum crowd control

andd teams just cant handle the damage

with the disruption

[long ridge]

I see

[quick carbon]

thr damage is undeniably insane

[long ridge]

how do you deal w/ it then

[quick carbon]

frost dk is unironically harder to play than unholy dk rn

you can sorta deal with it

as warrior

[long ridge]

i'm curious 'cause i just ignore unholy and go for literally anything else

[quick carbon]

by just out boxing them

[long ridge]

frost blows lol

[quick carbon]

frost does GIGA damage

tho

[long ridge]

i've never lost to a frost

[quick carbon]

thr pillar goes are super scary

[long ridge]

i lose to uhdk on a regular

[quick carbon]

thats cuz unholys vastly more popular

but like to deal with them

what i do is

i just run up to them pop every cd

and i get every cd from them

then 1.5 mins later

u just kill them

[long ridge]

hm

ok

[quick carbon]

cuz they hhave no ibf

[long ridge]

i'm gonna try this shit bro

[quick carbon]

and warrior absolutely shreds dk

[long ridge]

and report back

[quick carbon]

ddont play unhinged into them

play ep

[long ridge]

yeah ofc

pets

[quick carbon]

like ive ran at dks

with 160k mortal strikes

into 110k executes

just shredding them

[long ridge]

whaaaaaaat

[quick carbon]

ya

they can also just facefuck u back tho

cuz thr dam is monstrous

but in the opening POP EVERYTHING OFF UR MOUNT moment

warrior can actually out pressure a dk

[long ridge]

sick

[quick carbon]

like u can legit

even with no ep stacks

50k colossus smash 100k spear 120k ms

100k execute

[long ridge]

i'm into this i'll let you know how it goes

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/42346457f46206a82779df5dc0c9e6ad

meanwhile dh discord

[long ridge]

loooooool

i'm way more scared of dev than havoc though TBH

[wheat jay]

Fuck both of them

Oneshot is not fine no matter what class it is

[quick carbon]

i mean warrior can nearly 1 shot now too

IT IS WHAT IT IS

just gotta out 1 shot thr 1 shot

[wheat jay]

All oneshots should be removed

Burst is fine

100-0 is not

[long ridge]

you know how much shit has to line up

for us to burst anywhere near that lol

[wheat jay]

Yes

[pure hornet]

I love 1shot

[wheat jay]

3 crits

[quick carbon]

i mean i literally hit a warlock for a 210k ms

[pure hornet]

Not boring dampening

[quick carbon]

so

its possible

for suure

[long ridge]

yeah how about consistent burst

[pure hornet]

Consistent one shot

[long ridge]

ele, windwalker, warlock, ret

[pure hornet]

Is beta

[long ridge]

who else does more consistent burst

hunters

[quick carbon]

warrior has ssome of the most consistent burst in the game too

warrior damage is not even close to being bad

[long ridge]

i'm not saying it's bad but it's easier to counter than many others

[wheat jay]

Ww is not consistent burst you, its literally dmg every sweep

[quick carbon]

i mean most burst is counterable

[long ridge]

disarm, stun, use a defensive and our burst just went byebye

[wheat jay]

Hunter is double tap every minute

[quick carbon]

hunter is very reactable too

[wheat jay]

The most even xD

[long ridge]

i think it's harder to stop though

u can tell you're about to get fucked but

[quick carbon]

most classes goes can be avoided

[long ridge]

how u gonna stop double tap if you can't charge and disarm 'em 'cause you're rooted etc

[wheat jay]

Disarm stun fear on Hunter

Done

[quick carbon]

u can just leap onto hunters and disarm them

stun/fear thr trinkets

like legit just strom the root then leap disarm

cc thr trinket

[wheat jay]

True, you only have 2 rootbreaks xD

[long ridge]

avatar and what

[quick carbon]

bladestorm

?

[wheat jay]

Bladestorm

[long ridge]

oh

true

[wheat jay]

As well as teammates that also can stop their dmg xD

[long ridge]

so i gotta save avatar instead of just blow it on my first go

[wheat jay]

Hunter dmg is easiest to stop

[wheat jay]

Save bladestorm

[long ridge]

i always save bladestorm for deroot

[wheat jay]

Its anti-cc anyway

[quick carbon]

as warrior the only damage i feel like i just cant do anything ab

is feral

[long ridge]

i can kill feral though

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz feral is busted xd

[long ridge]

hunter is more annoying for me

[quick carbon]

good ferals shouldnt die

id rather train a dk

[long ridge]

dont see ferals that often personally

[quick carbon]

than a feral

[wheat jay]

Spoilers, they dont xD

[violet fossil]

how you kids feel about ignore pain

[long ridge]

see uhdk and warlocks every game lol

[quick carbon]

i think ignore pain

[long ridge]

I like it chef

[quick carbon]

is going to make

warrior

s tier

[wheat jay]

Broken

Spell

For a strong spec

Arms gonna be S tier

[quick carbon]

arns is going to be

top 3

melee

i think

[wheat jay]

Yep

Feral ret arms

[quick carbon]

id say feral arms dk

i think dk > ret

still

[violet fossil]

I still eat ret

Yeah

[wheat jay]

Ret oneshots, dk doesnt

[quick carbon]

i dont mean in

a 1v1

ret ddoes 1 shot ya

[wheat jay]

People just cant live as ret

[quick carbon]

but dk damage

is a warcrime

[long ridge]

Every Friday night, me (30M, 2700 elo) and my wife (27F, 2100 elo) have date night which involves a round of chess over wine. Every time we match up, I win and it's not even close. Some time about 2 months ago, my wife started beating me consistently. It felt like a sudden shift in the universe. The games went from me almost being guaranteed to win to my wife spanking me every Friday like a disobedient child. Her over-the-board progress has been unusual, and throughout our games I had the impression that she wasn’t tense or even fully concentrating on the game in critical positions, while outplaying me as black in a way I only think a handful of players can do.

Anyway, I did some googling around and I discovered a GitHub repo for something called ButtFish. Reading up on it shows that this is a program that allows you to transmit Stockfish moves to select sex toys that provide this capability. Now my wife works in IT and is an excellent programmer and she is more than capable of deploying such a setup. Thinking back to the previous games that we played, I start to remember times where she would breathe faster, moan under her breath and squirm in her chair. It makes sense. She had to be using ButtFish.

I decided to confront her with this information and of course, she vehemently denies that any cheating took place over the games where she beat me. I told her that if that were true, then she would have no problem with a strip search before we play again. She turns red in the face. She's screams at me and tells me I'm just a horny perv that's looking for an excuse to play with her butthole. While that is entirely true, my priority is the integrity of the game that we play on date night. I offer for both of us to play naked or at least bottomless and she still refuses. She thinks I have trust issues but I insist that I just want to see her buttcrack and play a fair game of chess.

AITA?

[wheat jay]

If a ret can live, theyre better