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vapid rover
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ah...

copper hare
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hey guys, just press your def CD :<<<

sage raptor
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Just put down your amz

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Oh that's righttttt

wheat jay
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That they break in half a spell xd

sage raptor
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I assure you they do not

wheat jay
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How much absorb is amz

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Cuz its less than dk HP iirc

sage raptor
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Idk. But it hasn't broken been broken by a ret yet.

wheat jay
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Thing is

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They can wait it out

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Or swap target

copper hare
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it's not worth Artji

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this guy clearly has never played arena

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or was above 1.6

sage raptor
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Yes. Swap to a target also in amz

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Lol

wheat jay
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No, i want more arguments that i can refute

sage raptor
wheat jay
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So it breaks faster

hot solstice
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damn I hate extra crit chance bursts on specs who dont gear crit...those ww and rets

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I guess they need to remove extra crit on wings and rets are ok

sage raptor
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Idk what to tell you. Play with a dk that talents into amz (because chances are they don't right now) and see for yourself.

small silo
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is unhinged being changed in the patch at all ?

hot solstice
sage raptor
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Why pet specs?

hot solstice
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cause they can catch those 2 mortals

sage raptor
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Ooooo

wheat jay
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They do 400k+ in one global

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You think amz that's less than that 400k will save you fully?

sage raptor
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I mean it already does

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Don't you have a dk?

wheat jay
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No

sage raptor
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O

copper hare
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just tell all the r1 players

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"guy just play with dk so ret dmg is justified"

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certified clown

sage raptor
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Where did I say it was justified? Please do show. And don't tell me "bUt iT wAS iMpLiEd."

mystic barn
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we love ret having wake of ashes on a 15sec cd ccing all our pets

sage raptor
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Thats annoying

wheat jay
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Wait

sage raptor
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Is it 15 seconds?

wheat jay
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There's a dk main here

mystic barn
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radiant decree is 15 sec cd

brazen rock
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wake of ashes is 45second cd.

mystic barn
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radiant decree is 15 sec cd

wheat jay
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@mystic barn bro, does amz fully save you from ret burst?

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Radiant is 15s

mystic barn
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idc about ret burst im dk

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but my other teamates care

wheat jay
mystic barn
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amz can die in a global to ret

sage raptor
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Shit rets then

thick reef
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prob

mystic barn
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if anyones standing outside of dome their fault not mine

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but i still get punished with the cr loss

copper hare
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^

thick reef
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so true

wheat jay
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Well

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I guess there's only tsg and ret/arms now

thick reef
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So arms is supposed to be s-tier in 10.0.5 is that right?

copper hare
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finally someone with a brain. Rets damage doesn't necessarily affect your class, but maybe the mates you play with. And if a class can global people through 40% walls

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then the game is just awful

mystic barn
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yep

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ive always said retwar isnt an issue for me personally

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its the people who dont respect it on my team

sage raptor
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D tier*

thick reef
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Oh I must have read some bad info. I'm trying to pick a pvp class for the long term for dragonflight.

sage raptor
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I kid. Probably S tier depending on who you ask.

thick reef
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Oh I see lol.

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Arms rn is B tier prob

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High A-S tier with IP

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Havoc DH expecting a fall from grace?

copper hare
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imo

thick reef
sage raptor
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I've been playing SMF more than arms so idk

thick reef
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yea C-B for sure bc u get rando healers and u dont know what to expeft for them in ss

copper hare
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Arms is scary with a really good healer

wheat jay
thick reef
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yea

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and a good teamate who can peel

wheat jay
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Then they took my shit sadge

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Now i'm sad

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My broken defensive was taken

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My dmg was taken

copper hare
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What spec do you usually play then

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surv?

wheat jay
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All that's left is depression

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Yes

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Bombs hitting for 15k

copper hare
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Had a mm earlier that killed mages/priests in 1 sec with rapid fire

wheat jay
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And ticking for 6

copper hare
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that shit hits like a truck

wheat jay
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Less than 2 weeks even

copper hare
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but it's like a one trick pony, you stop that and they don't have anything for 3 min or so

wheat jay
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Yup

mystic barn
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xd

wheat jay
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Except its 15s gladge

mystic barn
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the spooky part about ret to me is you can keep shutting it down but eventually in a long match they have the extreme possibility to 1 tap someone

copper hare
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Idk, from my experience even without decree rets do like 50-60k dps over the whole game

sage raptor
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Cap

mystic barn
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i think ret sustain damage did increase recently

sage raptor
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It did. I just wanted to fuck with him lol

copper hare
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that's excactly like watching SL s2

mystic barn
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ret is doing sl damage profile however its not reliant on banner anymore llmao

copper hare
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true

sage raptor
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He's a strong, independent ret and don't need no warrior to provide for him.

copper hare
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can you imagine if they didn't buff the overall hp by 40%

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that shit could have been even more sketchy

wheat jay
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Tbh, relentless for everyone was a bad change

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+40% was good

sage raptor
wheat jay
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CC is useless now

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Ok not useless

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But not as impactful

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Meaning, zug zug is more popular, and more rewarded

sage raptor
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But you still have on use dam trinket

wheat jay
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And CC is not as rewarding now

copper hare
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Is it just me or have assa rogues vanished after the latest nerfs? I mean they are still great, but I don't see any rogues anymore

sage raptor
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And pet damage for pet specs

wheat jay
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Cc basically too short

sage raptor
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I see what youre saying

wheat jay
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You throw a big cc setup, it ends fast sadge

copper hare
wheat jay
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Meaning you could have had similar result with just doing dmg and throwing your cc like its an interrupt

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Assuming you play zug zug cleave

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And comps that relied on setups or longer CC to win games got severely nerfed

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Imo better thing would be to put a 10s cooldown on spammable cc

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Like cyclone, fear, polymorph

steel trout
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fuck setup comps 💯

sage raptor
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This means that rmp isn't as abusive tho

copper hare
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Nah. setup comps are good for the game

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I don't wanna see ret war vs ret war all day

wheat jay
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Setup comps are usually just a skill matchup

steel trout
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as long as its not SL firemage its ok...

copper hare
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I like rmp when it needs skill and has high potential. Problem is everyone hates rmp because they were literally able to dampen you in the last two expansions

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which is obnoxious

wheat jay
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Unless its s3 rmp

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Then its just broken

steel trout
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rmp in SL was just disgusting

wheat jay
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Setup comps used to be kinda on a timer

copper hare
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rmp outdampen lock mage

wheat jay
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Do your setup, win

copper hare
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that's when you know something is wrong

wheat jay
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If you didnt, run around

steel trout
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3 2 1 go!!

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getting a re!

wheat jay
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Then there's hunter/rogue that also got nerfed with it

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And things that are easiest to play got a huge advantage

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Cuz theyre not in as much danger now

sage raptor
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Binding shot should've just broke with damage. Idk why blizz thinks it needs to be a special root.

steel trout
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tbh i dont think the skill level of something should decide how to balance it

wheat jay
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Noone plays it

copper hare
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but they just didn't give a fuck

wheat jay
steel trout
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i know, but its something that makes setup comps hard to balance

wheat jay
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Basically zug zug stuff is superior now in every way

steel trout
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obviously blizzard doesnt balance only for players who know what they are doing

wheat jay
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And setup comps dont rly have an edge now

wheat jay
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Also

steel trout
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ofc they should

wheat jay
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They dont balance for anyone

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Cuz balancing is a fucking mess in pvp

steel trout
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but it will feel bad for bad players then

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its a neglected minigame

wheat jay
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It is lol

sage raptor
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According to pvp with the blues, they balance with bgs apparently.

wheat jay
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Finally someone who agrees with me on that

sage raptor
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The minigame thing?

wheat jay
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Ye

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XD

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Like, we all agree, but nice to see someone call it that way too

steel trout
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i mean they have plenty of good people working on the balance team

sage raptor
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Isn't that what almost everyone says about pvp? Lol

wheat jay
desert root
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balancing doesnt seem to bad since they were kinda quick to nerf sp and dh

steel trout
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but their input isnt valued

wheat jay
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Nvm

wheat jay
desert root
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lol

copper hare
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it is really fast compared to SL

desert root
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1 month isnt fast?

wheat jay
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Well ye

desert root
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lmao

steel trout
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compared to before its fast

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but its not really fast

wheat jay
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Compared to SL half a year would be fast

copper hare
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they havent balanced shit in s3 or s4 besides slight holy priest changes

hot solstice
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Can someone expain why feral is higher tier than assa?

wheat jay
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But compared to how it should be, its not rly fast

steel trout
hot solstice
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cause I have much more problem with assa than cats

copper hare
wheat jay
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Assa easier to shut down

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Feral not easy to shut down

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Assa dies, feral doesnt

sage raptor
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Yall see ferals out in the wild?

hot solstice
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well yeah...at least I can survive vs feral...sure thing it lives longer but vs assa every time I feel myself on timer

wheat jay
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If you live vs feral you play against bad ferals okayge

hot solstice
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or maybe assa just much easier

wheat jay
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60k dps when everyone else is doing like 20-25 critcake critcake critcake

hot solstice
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I talk about 2s

steel trout
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yes

wheat jay
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Feral definitely overtuned in dmg department

steel trout
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but no boorst!!

wheat jay
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Well, feral frenzy

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Berserking

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They have burst, its just not 100-0 in 2 seconds

steel trout
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its just a joke abt tonyferalmovies

wheat jay
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Wasnt tony banned like 10 times by now?

steel trout
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idk but his twitter is funny as fuck recently

wheat jay
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I dont rly use Twitter

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Id follow too much weird shit

nimble jasper
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talking 2s

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90% most r1s when ranking specs

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arent basing shit off 2s

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also helps that hunter hardcounters assa

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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true

crude bane
mystic barn
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fnoob moment

crude bane
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1 funny OS cause he's in shaman pool

sage raptor
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So how does hunter hardcounter assa but not feral? 🤔

nimble jasper
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feral more aids but the few times i played assa in 2s like no one lives the second deathmark

crude bane
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SECOND

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AND THE MOST

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FUNNIER

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VANGUARD BABY CRY DAY 1

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on RET DAMAGE

nimble jasper
wheat jay
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Assa doesnt

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Survi without pet is doing 0 dmg

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Cant cc

sage raptor
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But what if MM? 🧠

nimble jasper
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every assa fotm i ran into fucking sucks tho and doesnt multidot

wheat jay
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Cant use sac/freedom

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Mm also uses pet my man

nimble jasper
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i played 5 games last week as that spec

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and doublekillled 4 teamss

wheat jay
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And mm doesnt have mending

nimble jasper
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in 2mins each

wheat jay
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So it dies

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Only survi hard counters assa with mending

nimble jasper
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craven oh wait

copper hare
wheat jay
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Hehehe

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Craven was bad for the game

sage raptor
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Does outlaw still counter hunter?

wheat jay
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But I giga miss flayed shot now

nimble jasper
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i ran into a mirror where guy playing assa

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was playing double frozen devo

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i still doubled his dam

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and my garrotes ticked 80% harder

wheat jay
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Flayed shot was annoying cuz it was rng, but it have hunter that unhealable dmg it should be doing since its got shit burst

nimble jasper
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lmao

copper hare
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I mean yeah every r1 cries about their specs. I remember whaazz saying how mediocre outlaw was s3 s4 SL just to trigger his viewers

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and it worked lol

nimble jasper
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tierset outlaw

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is vile

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just watch

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i ambushed a dh for 50k

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with sophic devo proc

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that and people forget outlaw can stepkick you now

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@wheat jay

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wheat jay
nimble jasper
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yesterday

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trimaz howton q’ing sub outlaw

muted surge
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is there a way to disable the default arena frames ?

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smoky anchor
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Arms is so goddamn chad in arena lol

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Compared to virgin fury players

pure hornet
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Is tier set 2 piece better than highr ilvl conquest gear

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?

nimble jasper
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for arms

pure hornet
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Yes.the walking mountain set

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2 piece

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Better than higher ilvl conquest gear?

nimble jasper
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not bad cuz helm and shoulders are 411+ from raid

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if you have really shit ilvl tier maybe not

pure hornet
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I got them low lvl .385 but i upgrade

nimble jasper
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yeah 385 likely isnt

lean burrow
pure hornet
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With valor ntill 408

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But isnt 408 weaker than 424??

nimble jasper
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idk my valor is 415

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prob a damage loss if no vers

pure hornet
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Hmm

zenith marlin
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ait

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post nerf DH did 7M dmg vs my 3.8M dmg

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I got 28% crit and 32% vers

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He was ST most of the fight

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I guess skill issue xd

teal light
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PTR curiousity...has anyone tried to build Slam and see how it is doing...I still feel it is not worth the time or effort

nimble jasper
zenith marlin
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ngl 10 yrs after gg dan doesnt look half bad now

coral axle
teal light
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discusting low

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ty

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I feel like the meta after 10.0.5 is going to be Exe MS building play...

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I just wish we had one more point to get Unhinged

long ridge
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what do you guys do vs marks hunters? they just obliterate me

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and kite me like a baby

steel trout
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Disarm doubletap

brazen rock
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your better off pressing rend to dump rage then slam

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or reupping hamstring

thick reef
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and in 2 weeks all that rage going straight into ignore pain

copper hare
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im so excited for 10.0.5

steep inlet
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Same

crude bane
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how you get those criiiiit maaaan

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tf

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what is your highest crit on player

copper hare
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190 on a dh

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but I only cap atm, starting with patch lol

crude bane
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dayum bro

coral axle
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Also wep proc, trinket proc, on-use trinket, dark iron racial

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Hit some feral for 200k dude was gone

crude bane
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meanwhile ret

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press 1 spell

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same damage

tranquil raven
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Is it normal that my fury dmg on pvp dummy is in general a little higher than as arms or should arms be higher or equal?

crude bane
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wrong stats maybe

copper hare
crude bane
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how ziqo so strong making jokes laughing singing at 2K8 +

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this guy human or just black

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dayum

weary dagger
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is stat prio still haste > mastery > crit ?

mild thunder
weary dagger
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yea

mild thunder
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yes that's the stat prio

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but the best advice is reroll to arms

lean burrow
steel trout
crude bane
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nice lobby

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ret refuse to buble

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lock refuse to press fear

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3-3 lobby

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i rly love this

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40 Min q

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brb cutting my veins

steel trout
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just win when they are on enemy team!

fair tide
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I played three matches today. 3/3 in all three

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I feel your pain

mint dagger
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How are u guys surviving? Man I get targeted and seem to melt

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I just started playing my war again but I have full blue pvp it can't be that bad

hot solstice
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Fear defensively

fair tide
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sit def stance until their go is done

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sb defensivly

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disarm, fear

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sometimes just zugzuging wont win you games

fickle forge
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Good defense is good offense 😎👍

mint dagger
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Lol

fickle forge
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Balls to the walls

mint osprey
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ayyy just got my 1950 upgrades

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duelist here we come

steady token
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Any chill pvp guilds recruiting? Looking for some people to play with

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Na(horde)

copper hare
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I don't think something like pvp guilds exist anymore or

coral axle
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Actually in a big pvp guild on stormrage, two full guilds (main and alt) with a lot of activity

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They exist on the big realms at least

vapid drum
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what do you buy first with conquest? weapon?

minor heath
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Weapon yeah

vapid drum
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cool thanks

severe schooner
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whats the consensus on fury vs arms?

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want to start grabbing gear, but fury is haste where arms is crit?

rancid granite
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both great but arms generally seems better atm

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or at least more popular

agile aspen
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arms is just better

severe schooner
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and 1 less weapon

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which trinkets, CC break and stat on use?

agile aspen
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patch is in a week and then it will be arms vs a tiny baby

rancid granite
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makes me wanna go fury I wanna be the underdog

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after patch

agile aspen
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its underdog now

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after patch its take out the back to be shot dog

lean burrow
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how are you even supposed to play against lock+dps+rdruid

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have to swap against rdruid but good luck swapping off lock

coral axle
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still see people on reddit and forums complain about it even tho its pretty trash vs people that can use defensives and healers who can heal well

smoky anchor
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radiant decree?

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got hit for 165k by it

agile aspen
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only 165k

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but yeah its fucked

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165-230k

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and the final reckoning will hit for 100k+

rancid granite
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I'll trust the leader boards! I think the top are arms but there's some decently rated fury?

smoky anchor
nimble jasper
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cc the ret

smoky anchor
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when tho

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during wings?

nimble jasper
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yeah

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and proc wings

lean burrow
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always useful

smoky anchor
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dh dk -- who are you trying to kill?

lean burrow
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dk

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actually idk, if dh doesn't have blur he can die

nimble jasper
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also depends what comp you're queueing as

undone vapor
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This might sound a Lil crazy, but has anyone done the math for the optimum, Dot and GCD burst?
Minimum and optimum success

Haste/Crit/Mastery/Verse

On abilities like
Roar
Rend
Deep wounds
AT 424 ILVL in pvp gear yet?

I'm looking into a heavy verse mastery build for mega 1 shot critical hits in pvp.

Would like to figure out the GCD haste breakpoint needed for 1 extra ability during demo shout.

And 1 extra bleed tick during the same time frame. For ROAR/Rend/Deep wounds

As I want to build as much mastery mastery as possible with critical filler after the haste break point.

low cobalt
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just dinged 70, do I have to complete the main storyline quests in order to start pvping/arena? Like is there anything else I have to unlock to be fully geared

undone vapor
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Crafting gathering Professions help

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BS and ENG too

low cobalt
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what do they give?

undone vapor
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eng helm + tinker socket

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BS craptons of 418 armor

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Gathering just makes it cheaper

low cobalt
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wait so conquest gear is not bis?

mild thunder
undone vapor
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Oh pvp 🤦‍♂️

low cobalt
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why cant i just farm honor gear + conquest gear

mild thunder
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other than that, just go ham on honor/conq gear

coral axle
low cobalt
mild thunder
undone vapor
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Buy the crafted pvp gear on AH

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Use honor to get 411 pvp

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Conquest 424

coral axle
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Honestly not even worth it unless you have a lot of extra gold, it only lasts 3-4 hours

mild thunder
low cobalt
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im just going for 1800 for the transmog then quitting

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so i dont think i need to min max

mild thunder
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its 11.5k honor to get a full set

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and you can usually sub with a few bloody token pieces

undone vapor
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If u had wm on bloody tokens for wpvp gear 408

coral axle
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Ah yeah you should have world quests unlocked so u can get tokens and free drakebreaker

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U may need to finish campaign for that

low cobalt
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what is drakebreaker?

mild thunder
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bloody token gear set

coral axle
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World pvp gear, but it's just 3 ilevels lower than honor/conq

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So it's a great filler

low cobalt
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ah ok nvm

mild thunder
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worth using for a few filler pieces

agile aspen
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especially when drakebreaker chest has crit and only costs 7 trophies for some reason

mild thunder
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did i miss some devastation buffs? seem to be seeing it a lot more this week

lean burrow
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no

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fotm rerollers deleted spriest and went evokers

sharp meteor
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Yep eles and devastations being setup along with rets yep

agile aspen
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wtf is elemental damage

lean burrow
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fire+frost+nature?

sharp meteor
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spicy meatballs

high star
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is there a new enchant this season?

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i only ever push to get the new enchants lmao gotta keep my collection

sharp meteor
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it'll be coming out in two weeks, i think

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along with tabard and pennant

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unsure as to what it looks like

lean burrow
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giga cringe

mild thunder
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i like it

sharp meteor
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i kind of like it ya

lucid walrus
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seriously don't get the hate

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other than whatever's going on by the shoulders in the back

mild thunder
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i appreciate the turtleneck tabards

lucid walrus
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nice to see more than 2 colors in these unlike SL tabards

lean burrow
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at least it's not SL level of cringe

hot solstice
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still no 2100 illusion?

frozen sapphire
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Saw something about the arms 2 set being "mandatory". Is it worth using 2 pieces of PvE gear to get my 2 set or should I just wait until catalyst?

mild thunder
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just wait

frozen sapphire
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Cool, cheers.

pure hornet
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How pple get wlking mountain 2 piece without raiding or mythic,????

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I dont understand

outer parcel
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anyone noticed the sudden lack of demon hunters and priests in solo xD=

outer parcel
pure hornet
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Both pieces

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I need

outer parcel
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healer left at the last second -.- i was about to execute the feral

mild thunder
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im still seeing plenty of sp and plenty of dh

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along with feral, ele and uhdk

grand scaffold
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that tabard is garbage

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legit looks lame

sage raptor
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Hit a poor soul with a shield charge for 100k

velvet grail
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Anyone have a good build for solo shuffles? low rating

lean burrow
fickle forge
# lean burrow

Looks like that thing your mom made you wear as a kid when eating so you wouldn't spill food on yourself

dapper cypress
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Guysjust watched an arms video from Laros
I always taught that using bladestorm is a part of our burst.
When is the right time to use it?

mild thunder
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wow has become too fotm

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its so fucking cringe

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every lobby is the same 4-5 specs remixed over and over and over

fickle forge
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That was always WoW doe

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Just like it's always <insert literally any competitive game here>

mild thunder
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shuffle makes it worse imo

mystic barn
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if you want the true experience, please come over to 3v3 where you have dhdk rdruid, and demo sp rdruid

mild thunder
#

im determined to get 2400 in shuffle before pushing 3s

muted surge
#

Is there no unrated SS anymore ?

mild thunder
#

i tanked my 2300 down to 2100, now pushing back up

mild thunder
muted surge
#

great

mild thunder
#

unrated ss was a great idea

#

ranked ss is fucking garbage

muted surge
#

i just wanna play

#

but 40 min ss queue :>

mild thunder
#

i just wanna kill all these dk feral mains in a video game

mystic barn
#

idk I had my fun to 2500

#

now queues take too long

mild thunder
#

getting to 2300 wasnt that hard, but now that i tanked because I FUCKING DC'D getting back up is brutal

mystic barn
#

the secret is going the warrior every round

mild thunder
#

yep thats pretty much their secret every game

mystic barn
#

yep I enjoyed the secret

mild thunder
#

what did you push 2500 on

mystic barn
#

dk

mild thunder
#

oh fuck you

hot solstice
#

press /pet attack for free pts

mild thunder
#

unironically uhdk has one of the most boring rotations in the history of wow

#

build wounds > spend wounds > build wounds > spend wounds

mystic barn
#

you forgot about spending rp

lean burrow
#

press virulent plague every 3 gcds because they now expire in 5 seconds

mystic barn
#

that’s the most interactive part of the kit

mild thunder
#

and the burst feels so clunky

mystic barn
#

It’s ramp

mild thunder
#

having to slam 3-4 GCDs to ramp up

lean burrow
#

press unholy blight to start bursting

fickle forge
#

I mean

lean burrow
#

get stunned

fickle forge
#

No rotation is engaging

lean burrow
#

now all cooldowns are misaligned

mild thunder
fickle forge
#

It's meant to be easy

mystic barn
#

I haven’t had that issue

mild thunder
#

old feral rotation

#

old meaning SL

fickle forge
#

Feral rn is literally mashing AoE Rip and then press bite when it shines up

mild thunder
#

yep

#

they absolutely fucking ruined feral in pvp

#

so cringe now

lean burrow
#

feral convoke in SL critcake

fickle forge
#

And SL feral was tunneling 1 dude down due Draught

mild thunder
#

i ran circle in SL

mystic barn
#

kyrian link banner

mild thunder
#

so you actually had to manually aoe rip

mystic barn
#

super exciting

mild thunder
#

was super fun

mystic barn
#

🛌

mild thunder
#

ww has an incredibly fun rotation, but you cant stay in long enough to use it

fickle forge
#

Like all rotations are simple

mystic barn
#

ya arms is op mortal

#

oh ya and auto attack

#

(Very complex)

fickle forge
#

Condoom spam

mild thunder
#

kinda... but comparing fury or uhdk and something like ww is a bit bs

fickle forge
#

UDK used to be one of the more complex playstyles

mild thunder
#

udk when it was actually a dot class

#

super fun

fickle forge
#

Just overtuned rn so you don't have to work that hard for it

mild thunder
#

legion was cool and based but it fucked up so many fun specs and turned them into the most linear garbage

mystic barn
#

Atleast they kept the cd bloat

mild thunder
#

legion enh keks

mystic barn
#

That’s unholys core identity

fickle forge
#

Arms must be simple if you can get glad without pressing Hamstring or Sweep

#

😎👍

late nacelle
#

4-2

#

+50 rating

#

2-4

#

-50 rating

#

NOOOOOOOO

undone pumice
#

3-3

#

0 rating

late nacelle
#

IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS

undone pumice
#

perfectly balanced

grand scaffold
#

stupid charge disconnect

#

made me get a draw in solo shuffle

#

thats some stupid shit

wheat jay
#

Need wins to gain

late nacelle
#

my last 2-4

#

gave me +14

#

;_;

#

then i did 2 4-2s in a row

#

then 2-4

#

-50

#

SCAM

wheat jay
#

Cuz of mmr

#

Fuck knows how it was calculated, probably based on your teammates overall mmr or something

true mulch
#

What pvp trinkets do you get on a human warrior? Do you still get medallion

hollow ore
#

any glad mount owner out there?
Can you use the highland drake outside of dragon isles or is it locked to the region despite being a glad mount?

steep inlet
#

there is 2 dragon

#

one scarlet with dragon riding

#

one scarlet with old system

hollow ore
#

oh alright big brain

#

thanks!

#

was wondering if it was worth pushing glad this season if the mount was an expansion-only flex

undone pumice
#

and otherwise get double dps or relentless vs only stuns and disarms

lean burrow
undone pumice
#

this is gooder

grand scaffold
#

are you fucking serious

hollow ore
#

oh so it wasn't a glitch

#

good fix blizzard

#

tf you had a 400 rating

#

in your game

#

LMAO

crude bane
#

nice

#

10-14

#

boomkin

#

1K9 MMR

#

let press alt f4

#

and unsintall

#

this game is trash

#

oh well

#

he left the lobby

#

what a surprise

grand scaffold
crude bane
#

huù

#

second solo

#

second leaver

#
  • 2 +2
#

nice

#

dont we suposed to get a win like +20

grand scaffold
#

i got a leaver just now

#

+12 rating

#

atleast people are queueing tho

#

thank God for that

#

hows thunderclap

#

i remember in wod it was really good

#

but how is it now

steel trout
#

it doesnt rly do dam its pve skill to apply rend 😂

steel trout
crude bane
#

1-0

#

for me ofc

#

+2

#

and i was the lowest CR

#

but everyoen get +2

#

so it was a lie

#

time to hear drainerx trashtalking everyone

crude bane
#

i swear elem is the new mongol class

#

put flame shock then 0 cast for ever spam lava burst wtf is this dogshit

fluid thorn
#

Arms is just too much of a brain play for me. Doom Eternal with Fury is the alt style this season. 😂

crude bane
#

anyone get killed by accident today ?

#

i cant see any ret 1K9 i guess they all 2K4 with their DH alt

steel trout
#

i see ret like every game

mild thunder
#

i miss versing rets

#

i literally had a feral, dh, uhdk, rdru, evoker lobby last game

#

and the dh was of course retarded

#

i saw him stun once in 6 rounds

crude bane
#

take my 0 fear pressed lock

#

and i take your dh

#

i also have a uncomon card pala refuse to bubble

#

i give it to you for free

steel trout
#

played 3 games today, feral ret demo and ele only 😎

crude bane
#

i hope i can see another 40 % nerf on elem ret and lock

#

liek they did to WW

#

they rly diserv

steel trout
#

i dont think any ret player wanted more damage

#

it was never issue with ret

crude bane
#

funny cause actually they want more

fluid thorn
#

I main ret. Would be glad for a nerf. Just give us some mobility instead. We just have to smash what's around.

crude bane
#

they baby cry since day 1 for damage

steel trout
#

no the class had different issues

#

their damage was fine

fluid thorn
#

Exactly.

crude bane
#

yeah but

mild thunder
crude bane
#

maybe

steel trout
#

just shit mobility/survivability

mild thunder
#

mf i see that card all the time

crude bane
#

can you stop the meme " we dont have mobility"

#

we r in 2023

#

plz stop this meme

steel trout
#

?

fluid thorn
#

What meme? We just smash.

steel trout
#

ofc mobility doesnt matter now that they kill u in 3 globals if they connect rofl

crude bane
#

6 years ret crying

#

for mobility

#

plz

steel trout
#

cuz the class is either dogshit or overtuned?

mild thunder
#

ret is never getting mobility

fluid thorn
#

Well, nothing really changed in 6 years. We just smash for more. 😂

mild thunder
#

blizz literally trolled them with long arm of the law already keks

crude bane
#

you diserv the 3.3.5 mobility

#

fr

#

press lib insta dispel

#

this is what you diserv

mild thunder
#

it would be so easy to fix ret in pvp tho... just tune down wings and some of their random proc oneshot stuff like seraphim and aura of reck and then take freedom off GCD and replace steed with long arm of the law

#

and literally everyone is happy

fluid thorn
#

Here is your FR. Take it. I give it you. There was a patch notes before one expansion. And in that was a charge for rets. I just pissed my pants then.

And then there was no charge. 😂

fluid thorn
crude bane
mild thunder
#

the ret dev is an R word

crude bane
#

also sweeping strink off gcd

fluid thorn
#

That's actually why I went fury. The playstyle for Arms is rather similar to ret - you set up burst. But you're not on wheelchair. 😂

#

Wanted something to take my mind of sequencing.

mild thunder
#

im still thinking of leveling my ret

crude bane
#

i mooved to WW

#

due to this war mobility

mild thunder
#

i gave up on my ww after they kept on nerfing it w/o fixing their issues

#

cant get upset at ww oneshotting stuff when it's literally all they do

crude bane
#

i still refuse to play my dh

#

and get insta 2K4

mild thunder
#

easiest 2400 (in shuffle) is 100% uhdk

#

feral probs super easy too

fluid thorn
#

Does disarm hurt DHs?

mild thunder
#

just spam PW and do 10k dps more than anyone else

mild thunder
crude bane
#

glimps removing disarm

mild thunder
#

they just backflip and get rid of it

crude bane
#

retreat *

mild thunder
#

balanced okayge

crude bane
#

but all dh under 2K4 dont know this

#

until they watch trenacetate twitch

fluid thorn
#

Great. ExcitedBlushette

mild thunder
#

more classes need to be cucked by disarms

#

im sick to death of so many mongo fucking melee specs that cant even be disarmed to try and stop their damage

crude bane
#

disarm have any value vs re t tho ?

fluid thorn
#

I had a 3 warriors 1 rogue lobby.

mild thunder
#

same as uh

fluid thorn
#

We just ran around each other when disarmed.

crude bane
#

nice

mild thunder
#

feral, ww, ret, dh, uh and sv all completely unaffected by disarm

crude bane
#

faster to say

#

the only melee is war

mild thunder
#

and rogue

crude bane
#

cause is the worst melee

#

kekw

mild thunder
#

but they just evade and you cant disarm keks

fluid thorn
#

Well, not completely. You sunder their HP gain. But that's about it.

crude bane
#

i need to reroll a range

#

to chill

mild thunder
#

ive been leveling my ele

#

its actually so fucking fun

crude bane
#

im waiting 25 nerf hammer if nothing happen then go elem

#

25 jan *

mild thunder
#

not sure if i'll push 1800 on ele or enh

fluid thorn
#

How can you chill if not smashing someone's face?

mild thunder
#

enh has always been my 2nd/3rd spec, but the tree is kinda weird

#

you get super pigeonholed into one build

steel trout
#

go enjoy ele

#

i wanna level one too

mild thunder
#

id play dk if frost was good

#

their tier set looks so fucking cool

steel trout
#

yea it does

mild thunder
#

i cant even imagine how painful fdk would be in shuffle

steel trout
#

so much better than warr imo sadga

crude bane
#

can we talk about that

steel trout
#

lowest dk dam i seen in a while 😂

mild thunder
#

yea affli is busted

#

like demo

#

and destro

crude bane
#

this is retarded

#

S1 DF is a pure joke

#

wait S2

#

i guess

mild thunder
#

so much of the game is so fucking good rn

crude bane
#

they struggle to fix new talent tree i guess

mild thunder
#

but they really need to fix these specs

crude bane
#

so they buff 25 %

#

kekw

#

how rly wonder how they decide the upcoming nerf / buff

#

just how

#

yo

#

why everyoen is leeaving lobby when i score a kill

#

3 leaver today

#

damn bro lemme climb ffs

mortal elm
#

hey hey hey

#

wait

#

so since solo shuffle is rated pvp now

#

can we get... transmog rewards from solo shuffle??

hollow ore
#

ye

fickle forge
pure hornet
#

😂

mortal elm
#

iremember 3v3 was a lot harder than 2v2

#

cause ppl were pushing to glad in 3v3 with 2v2 gear

fickle forge
#

SS is the inflation bracket

steel trout
#

gear is not rating locked

fickle forge
#

Get any non-glad reward in there

mortal elm
#

thats awesome news

mortal elm
#

in shadowlands

fickle forge
#

SS has sucked out all the casual players who inflate the 3s ladder

mild thunder
#

160k ms into a 90k ms

#

noice

mortal elm
#

how does it work

hollow ore
#

win more rounds than you lose

#

ez

mortal elm
#

most round winner gets more etc

#

or first 3 gets same rating

#

in league there is a mode called TFT, you get more mmr when you are first, you get least mmr if you are 4th

fickle forge
#

At the end of all 6 rounds your total rating change is calculated

mortal elm
#

aah

#

thanks a lot for info guys

#

🙏

grand scaffold
#

is fireblood nerfed in pvp?

mild thunder
grand scaffold
#

are you sure?

#

when i check the buff

#

it is not a high strength value

#

not even the amount its supposed to give by default

late nacelle
#

Got to 2244

#

Now its been 3 games in a row

#

With 1 healer 6-0 and the other 0-6

#

3-3

#

0 rating

#

Cursed game

silver tendon
mild thunder
late nacelle
#

Man playing with 0 set

#

I feel like goku from dbz fighting with weights on

mild thunder
#

ngl thats just arms in general

late nacelle
#

Gonna take em off when catalysts come

#

SURELY 2.4k insta at that point

silver tendon
# late nacelle Man playing with 0 set

I just started a new Bnet Account and leveld a 70 warrior. 340 PvP Gear missing Encharnt on weapon and legs XD 1715 was max rating. i can´t carry shit XD I´m soft as butter and people don´t peel at all XD

late nacelle
#

U gotta peel yourself

silver tendon
#

Haha XD

late nacelle
#

Piercing howl

#

Stop incoming cc on healer

#

Dstance

#

Intervenes

#

Leaps

#

Victory rush

#

Its pretty hard to kill u if u play it well

#

Against melee cleaves you can even equip shield and use shield block

grand scaffold
#

its rough

grand scaffold
#

do you do that

late nacelle
#

Yes

#

Its unironically good

#

I have it baked into a dstance macro

pearl prism
#

we basically want to be transitioning to haste as arms once we get tier 4 set right?

late nacelle
#

Got a second dstance macro that doesnt equip shield

#

Called "defense" and "DEFENSE!"

late nacelle
grand scaffold
#

i cant wait to get to 2200

#

less people with horrid positioning

late nacelle
#

You'd think so

#

But they're just as bad

#

Maybe 2400 will be different

#

We'll see

#

The frequency you encounter decent players increases tho

#

But there is always at least 1 shitter

#

Retri palas and windwalker monks seem to just get oneshot every game for some reason

grand scaffold
#

dude

#

1900-2100

#

evoker healers

#

are just bad

#

and so many fury warriors

#

that tank cr

#

assa rogues dont know how to blind people

#

dh's with tunnel vision

#

its so annoying

green wyvern
#

now that I got legend what do I do in this game? 3v3 is unplayable

#

cant push glad cant even q 3s

humble spoke
#

whats stat priority for arms warrior can i ask please?

green wyvern
#

cus its dead af

#

I guess I unsub

green wyvern
#

haste is good

humble spoke
#

I see that in the pinned section, however im looking at mud on armory and hes stacking haste

late nacelle
rancid granite
#

mud is a hipster paving his own way @elfin surge

green wyvern
#

Yes

late nacelle
#

Needs to be above 2400 cr?

rancid granite
#

bajheera was saying its a lot of preference too

late nacelle
#

To count

green wyvern
#

I mean I was full haste in SL s1 and it felt good

late nacelle
#

Or can u dip above and then win 100 whatever rating

green wyvern
#

you can farm on off spec

#

until they fix it

late nacelle
#

Damn i need to hurry then

#

So i go 2400 arms

#

Then spam 100 wins fury

#

At like 1100

green wyvern
#

yeah

late nacelle
#

Just int games to stay low rating

#

Ok ok

humble spoke
#

what stat do you guys stack?

late nacelle
#

Crit

humble spoke
#

ty

green wyvern
#

I have some haste

humble spoke
#

but mostly crit?

#

can i armory you

green wyvern
#

yeah

#

Vasuke-Kazzak

humble spoke
#

thanks!

green wyvern
#

eu

late nacelle
#

Bruh

humble spoke
#

dam youre a beast

late nacelle
#

@green wyvern 2 set is cheating

green wyvern
#

I have seen plenry of people with 4 set in shuffle

#

pve andies

late nacelle
#

Yup...

#

Cuckdlife

#

At least u got the big 2 set

#

Maybe next reset xd

unkempt arch
#

Hi guys I haven't played warrior in a while. I'm curious how common is it for fury to macro avatar and recklessness together above 1.6, 1.8 rating in shuffle ?

green wyvern
#

macroing them is fine

#

you should play arms though

#

fury is awful

#

whoever says otherwise is a clown

late nacelle
#

I mean

#

Its not unplayable

#

But its not good

#

But arms will be giga

#

Next patch

#

So might as well start learning

#

Ignore pain baby!!!

undone pumice
#

u can macro entire fury rotation in 1 button lol

#

/cast rampage
/cast bloodthirst
/cast slam

south kestrel
#

now we're talkin boys

grand scaffold
green wyvern
#

and arms counters fury hard (when arms isn't awful)

#

and dh just shits on you

#

idk why they nerfed fury so much

grand scaffold
quick vessel
#

so i like to do m+ and pvp usually 2100ish was wondering is the crafted helm needed for that rating in pvp?

south kestrel
#

shoulda done it sooner

grand scaffold
#

yeah

#

fury is bad

#

i have never hated on fury as much as now tbh

south kestrel
#

pretty depressing

mild thunder
green wyvern
#

idk it was never that good

#

pre nerf fury was weaker than dh and dk

#

now it's just trash

mild thunder
#

its not just about how good it was, its about how good it was for how little it required

south kestrel
#

everything was weaker than dh and fk

unkempt arch
quick vessel
#

do you stack crit as arms?

rancid granite
#

fury is pretty good if you're good at it but people like to jump on the band wagon

south kestrel
#

arms is a bit of a lmao against caster comps, i just pillar hugged then went in for burst windows then leapt out again

#

plate rogue

green wyvern
#

fury is terrible

#

it's dead

#

arms counters it in every way

#

no point in playing it

rancid granite
#

im new :(

south kestrel
#

LoS casters and be in LoS of your healer

#

reflect the bad shit

rancid granite
#

in my mind i should be wailing on the enemy with MS

south kestrel
#

well yeah, bit hard against an ele and a frost mage though, or a lock

#

idk worked for me

#

probably far from optimal

rancid granite
#

ill try to keep it in mind

south kestrel
#

had quite a few oh shit im dead moments but it worked

pure hornet
south kestrel
#

just cant be greedy with your defensives

pure hornet
#

Or is crap?

rancid granite
#

fatality seems gr8 when it can work

#

can/does

#

but doesnt always happen 👀

pure hornet
#

Any one tried mastery? Instead of haste

copper hare
mild thunder
primal cloud
#

How come so many Fury PvPers play with the Conq Polearm? It has Mastery which is the lowest prio secondary stat from what I understand?

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mild thunder
#

vers > haste > mast > crit for fury

#

if you play spear, crit is probably equal to mast

primal cloud
mild thunder
#

murlok.io doesnt actually provide guides, its just a collation of existing data

primal cloud
mild thunder
#

so take stat prio with a grain of salt

primal cloud
#

Now that I look at the weapon options closer, the Polearm has 402 vers, while Greatsword has 340 vers. That might be why so many choose Polearm too?

mild thunder
#

no clue, fuck fury tbh

primal cloud
#

Haha, fair

pure hornet
#

Is sidearms crap?

mild thunder
#

yes

late nacelle
#

Its pretty good on fury

#

I like fatality vs pallies

#

You get to stack on em a bit more

grand scaffold