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pushing 1800 2s was defs easier than s4 SL
Got elite S4 in 2s and now get 12 pts per win on 1800 mmr
that shit was rough
idk
idek why im touching 2s
2s and 3s so inconsistant for me
there's no point
idk why i bother anymore
You know
just gonna be a shuffle andy
Crit is actually a really bad stat
no reason to play anything but shuffle or 3s since 2s gives no rewards
Just think about it
onlyin theory
U have around 60% crit on burst with proper gear
literally me
70% of the time you waste all your stats on nothing
ye but that 30% of the time fucking slaps
If u have 0 crit 100% of the time you dont waste anything
u cant have 0
its not like the other stat choices for arms are particuarly good either
u have like base 5%
0 crit invested
haste is probably if u are
Just crit anyway
u literaly get 30% extra crit damage and asking why crit
nothing feels better than 200k global some dh
nothing feels better than removing markers with a spear into mortal strike into execute
wish mortal combo was back
double 100k mortal combo on all 4 unhinged mortals
devestating defeat
nothing feels better than the warm, gentle hug from my mummy after i have just eaten some chocolate ice cream
i like it
just make it do less damage like 2nd storm strike on enha
makes the sleeper rotation a bit spicier
is it spicy when you just press ms for 5 straight globals?
Unhinged feels so bad... too many pets
will they buff mortal for 5% after they remove improve ms?
it is spicy when i hit a random cluster of procs and press 8 mortal strikes in a row
and absolutely outskill somebody via my superior rngesus prayers
no
I still dont have 2 set so i dont mind if they dont buff it
arms needs buffs
They should double deep wounds dmg and we chilling
bUt sKs OnEsHoTs š¤
they should turn deep wounds into something more interesting, like how it was in vanilla
bleed on crits
and rework mastery
Also kinda baffling how poorly mastery scales
sksp oneshots were fun but i think is bad now
mastery in bfa was more fun
33% of the crit applied as a bleed 
Literally feels like it does nothing
over 3 sec
devestating
200k mortal into 20k ticks
That would be cool
anything is cooler than how boring our current mastery is
wat
And reset cs on charge
HUH?
Yup
There was a talent that made cs do 10% max hp additional dmg and then another which reset cs cooldown on charge
We had such insane pressure
would 10% max hp even be that good now?
we just win through brute force
Yeah its pretty good
feels like classes do so much dmg that it would be nothing
as long as it can aoe with warbreaker
It couldnt
how the fuck do i play vs resto dudu and uhdk?
cry
he did like 6.2m dmg i did 2.2m
sounds like a rotation issue
You play the kiting game
if hes doing 3x dmg
Until deep dampening
you're never gonna beat his dmg, but you can stop his damage by running the fuck away
Then go for oneshot
and your healer has to not be a retard that stands there with him after you leap out
But ye rdruids need a big fat nerf
whats the mage food called?
prevo is actually just aids as shit
Just the amount of cc they can do whilst not losing healing output is insanity
youll never guess who i was playing with
conjured mana bun?
my r1 rdru again
No other healer comes close
he said healers in solo shuffle tend to have bad positioning
how do you make up for that
I ran into lappe in solo shuff earlier
Boomie from paragon
Obviously I trained him every round
i saw a dh complaining how broken boomy was in shuffle today 
those guys are literally deranged
very satisfying to watch them all fall after the nerfs
Haven't really faced any good ones
Nerf arms
maybe warrior shouldnt get ignore pain back
Ignore em, then they randomly come into melee and get oneshot
Fury nerf didnt make sense either
i want it to be Z tier
Just stomped lower rating games and enough people cried
Lol.
While at no point was it ever strong at higher ratings
the issue wasnt just how good it was, but how good it was for such little skill-investment
they couldve just nerfed shouse to 30% or smth
Agree
but they made it fucked up
literally mash 2 buttons for all your damage, self-healing, heal-reduc etc
the entire spec is a trainwreck rn.
pve fury is carpal tunnel simulator pressing 3 buttons for 10 minutes at a time
Never like fury tbh, always like arms more.
sure but your not playing with a flat 50% or more haste
why is it always the fotm degenerates that call other people fotm or low iq players
hmmmmmmm
because they care to much
"ayckshually arms is fotm" š¤
all the ''arms fotm'' dudes should face 3 assa disc in a row
yay
try to survive that 10k dps priest on top of 20k rog
you guys like leech or speed for enchants
and then he tried to call me shit and said i was a hardstuck 1600 player... when my cr and mmr for all modes was higher than his 
i have speed atm
but ima switch to leech
is it ok to wear 2 408 pieces for arms 2 pc over a 424/411
being a dh seems fun
no way
or dont do that
how much leech with full leech?
aight
lemme check
I have full speed right now but wondering if leech will help with survivability until we get Ignore Pain
I doubt leech will help that much, but a little is better than nothing, right?
Or is speed just too useful?
Feelycraft wise doesnt seem like leech will be that much but 5% bonus speed is good for uptime
i think speed is better cause getting stuck between mele and charge range sucks
must be nice
fast
how di play vs uhdk?
Hmm okay, I'll stick with speed then
suffer
all my speed is on my pve gear :l
who
r word 
no hard Rs, only soft As. say autistic
actually 8%
I insta ignore ppl who trash me in game, don't even bother.
when people call me trash i troll them so hard
was playing my rogue
he was like
you almost lost to a green geared evoker
im like
and you lost
enjoy your sub 1600 games
I guilt trip them
i dont do that
hru popo
been a while since i heard from you
"Its the first time playing since my wife passed away. We used to play this game all the time."
I'm doing good. Fixing my vehicle today so I can get back to work :)
Hru
most of the dopamine deprived fucks in this game will probably just get off thinking you're suffering that much lmao
where tf you getting 7%
theres bracers and cloak
200 / 125, or 3.25%
So far I either get no reply or an apology.
"yeah you should join her bud"

yea thats the response im expecting lol
Nah. Hasn't happened yet. Been doing it for a while.
wait
One time someone asked me why I queue rated since I'm so bad and I said "because it's fun". Lemme tell you. They did NOT like that answer lol.
BOOSTED
huh

Well of course I boost my own rating. How else will I get the mog silly?
not even gonna knock you for getting boosted
info dumping about one of your hobbies and/or starting a normal conversation is a fun tactic
"Why are you so ass"
"Bro my spice garden is doing numbers rn. My mint is coming in nicely as well."
āyou seen free solo? alex honnold is fucking insane man. 3000 feet of pure granite summited with no belay. nothing but grit, chalk and determinationā etc
Did anyone test how hard the shockwave with talent hits?
Pretty good synergy for spear
in what order to buy conquest pieces?
Always answer with "there is a reason we're in the same lobby"
they won't say anything after that
weapon first
I love that one! I gotta use it.
rest doesnāt matter
trinkets not prio?
wouldnāt say so tbh
just having the bonus from the honor ones is pretty fine for a while unless you want crit on your badge right off the bat
nah man its too funny
Guys guys
Shockwave
With 350% dmg and always crit
In spear
With increased crit dmg
My neurons are firing off
Make it stop
Do the math on the damage...waste of time...if it was 500% maybe
shockwave hits for piss iām pretty sure
Yes but did anyone actually test
Oh yes...terrible
worse
it's terrible
If you get a crit maybe 20k max.
and puts enemies on dr
the emotional distress of putting them on DR for free
not to mention what you have to sacrifice
Spear just on one target can do 60K+ on a crit...then you also pop avatar before it...20% of a 60k as well as all of the other abilities you are going to use during the Avatar CD...far more worth than a shockwave
it would have been fine if it was on something like 20-30 sec cd
and if it was easy to get
In spear, during ava, vs cs target, deep wounds, on use trinket, blood fury etc
yep, 37k on dummy
Whats the number
which is ~25k on a real person
#makeshockwavebaseline
less
At least for prot
in first talent row
Really miss having it, itās such a bi g dps loss to get it
Or rather storm bolt base line
And shockwave in the storm bolt place
Capstone could be banner
Or another ability which was fun
But not shockwave :(
So is arms just hands down better than fury for pvp right now? Iām kinda new to the pvp scene, any feedback is appreciated
Yeah I would take a conqueror's banner over shockwave anyday.
Pretty much burstier than Fury...Fury however currently has better self heals for now...that will change 10.0.5
Iām assuming you run the bloodthirst build on fury then?
I would not touch Fury with your hands...I don't ever play fury...Its either prot or arms...never fury
I really like fury, itās all I know how to play lol
Ok 30k shockwaves
Is the secret tech I need
To get past 2200
It shall be glorious
Do you believe? @mild thunder
See if you can still find a Fury Andy...most of the professional players including Bajheera have been switching mostly to Arms. I personally don't know of any fury pvpers still playing.
i believe
Bruh they need to nerf arms in 10.0.5
arms definitely wonāt be top of the list but itās not ducking any nerf bats
ngl i think people are overexaggerating how strong arms is going to be
there's still quite a few classes that are going to be a fair bit stronger
So does arms just do the big dam? Just trying to understand why every one prefers it so much
15 rating
even if they're even steven then arms is just more fun to play
they made fury a literal 2 button spec
Ty, maybe Iāll try arms today then
also they butchered slaughterhouse
youre over 1900
cuz its ok for rogues to have perma healing reduction
MMR is 1850
fuck this entire mmr thing
crazy thing is if you lose you would lose a ton of rating
yeah man i tanked from 1875 to 1600
im taking a break for a bit
why is the mmr so bad
because blizzard
how is wow grouping me into stuff like that
idk im prob just gonna tick to 3s with my friends bc solo que blows lol
the game is designed for 1% pvpers
how did i get 2.1k with fury in shuffle but stuck at 1800 as arms wtf is wrong with me
use def stance
you need your teammates to play well unless you kill people in spear, unhindeged opener lol
try bleed build on shuffles, easier to swap to vulnerable targets
ok
aim to kill whoever the other dps is trying to kill
Similar problem but got some good tips recently from @mild thunder
Also started switching to ep against comps with multiple pets. Pets are aids for unhinged
my crit is only like 21% in battle stance cause i was getting gear for fury initially
make a new warrior
š
because god forbid replacing gear on the same char in the current season
i was unironically going to cause i spent all my first sparks on pve stuff
but i hate leveling
Whatās stats does arms look for?
I wish there was a trophy of strife catch up
big crit
its in pinned messages @robust hamlet
Ignore them, cc when their null shroud falls, and kill DPS
They heal a ton but the annoying thing is it's almost impossible to lock them down enough to kill them
you can fear emerald communion
Lol ok so it is busted, got it, ty for the advice
Wait until you face a decent hunter + preservation evoker on blades edge
Impossible for melee to kill hunter on that map with an evoker. That stupid pick up ability is so op
Probably works with any other ranged too
Just hop off
Evoker picks you up if melee chase
Wish spear was more reliable
Spear sweeping strikes avatar blademaster is so Chad tho when it works and you grab 2 ppl
Iām mostly doin solo shuffle cuz my friends hate arena, and the team just feels immortal when they have an evoker unless they go out of range lol
Solo shuffle is the best queue, 3s would be fun if it were easier to find teammates to play with
Lol ^
lol?
YALL EVEN 28% CRIT
Being a healer rn is hell
@steep inlet nice getting features on wow head
nah being a healer isnt hell
Healer players just came to the realization that they arent shit

its better than BFA and SL with regards to one shots
i disagree, BFA was so much better
even with corruptions
im not able to heal through assa rogue as holy pala with all cds up except for bubble/bop
aura, wings, divine protection, im dying, melting
as a dwarf
didnt they nerf assa ?
or its comming on next patch
i think they nerfed improved garrot
even after nerf
it still hits ridiculous damage
because you can have shiv on like 25 sec cd
or whatever it is
who tf makes rogue talents
and then the devs goes "arms has lots of utility"
XdXDxdxdXDXDxDxDxdXD
forget that
who decides
lets give rogues constant pressure
a 20 sec 6 second stun
2 35% healing reductions with a constant 24% healing reduction
With how high burst and starting damp is healing is so much more stressful than dps
lets let them cleave their dmg constantly
I've gotten two healer and three dps specs now to at least 1800 in SS and shit is like night and day
and lets let them multiply their dots by 1.7x every 2 min
and even if that gets countered
lets allow them to 1 shot in the next kidney shot
and
lets take a 360 degree los down from 3 min
to 2 min
š¤¦āāļø
Tbh rogue is pretty tough, not many rogues at high rating SS or 3s right now
just becuase you have other broken shit
lets also make warriors dstance reduce dmg by 10% and their dmg done by 15%
doesnt mean this aint broken
Does feel like bs tho glad they got nerfed
its weird to me that burst seems almost worse then ever but the external power systems are gone like wth
but also give rogues 40% less aoe dmg and 20% less single target dmg with no drawback every 15 seconds for 6 sec
so that they then have 40% uptime on being tanky
like wtf
External power has nothing to do with balancing, if you lost 20% burst from not having azerite powers but put 20% more burst in your talents it's the same outcome
Just less dumb pve grinding for it
not anymore :(
sure it just seems weird they removed a thing to solve a problem then recreated the problem elsewhere
or at best you wonāt be able to after patch, i donāt recall when it takes effect
rogues are way imbalanced compared to warriors
i thought they were tough in bfa
this is a whole new level
Yeah its in the big patch in a couple weeks, along with a 35% nerf to their second biggest heal
they already did
remove the ability to queue as fury tbh
pls stop its already dead
why not nerf it more
š¤
why not nerf it to 1% for 1 sec
instead of giving it an interesting spin, reworking the ability so it isnt toxic
such us, you get it, but only during recklessnes
xd
or just ditch the internal cd
at the end of the day
pvp is for 1%
for majority of the players its play fotm or dont move for 10 seconds
and die to instant burst
df pvp is shadowlands 2.0, they just changed the numbers so other classes do the damage now
Prot pvp seems dead now, but if I wanted to do it for the lulz in open world pvp and shit, what is my stat prio?
is it same as pve or would I want more crit?
I just started playing Arms in PvP and feel like I do no damage
are there common pitfalls or anything obvious I could fix?
wrong
hows that build feeling?
i like it vs some dk comps
cool
Post bench
Wtf is ep
executioners precision
increases auto attack speed
yeah
And ep is honor talent
Sharpened**
sharpened blades is a talent right next to executioners precision
it looks like the warrior class icon
What
sharpened BLADE no s is pvp talent
Isnt sharpened the 50 healing debuff
sharpened BLADES is a talent
there are 2 sharpeneds
Lmao
.
Wtf
Other is sharpen blade
sharpened is spelled funny
so thoughts on removing sharpened blades to run ep and unhinged at the same time
Ndogo is right
so am i
its very common
i miss all my spears anyways
Bolt first then xd
still miss
Or charge
i felt this
so mr @elfin surge would you drop sharpened blades for ep
i legit hate spear
yea i could start playing piercing now that spear actually hits hard
makes me look like a shitter in arena and covers shit in pve
How u guys use spear? I have mouseover macro
i use the macro that makes it skip the circle thing and casts as soon as i press it
So... mouseover macro?
uh sure wj.e
What about... master and commander and the second buff talent for rallying
Should be decent for solo shuff, no?
Guy about to die boom 50% hp
doesnt seem worth it
bro
thoughts on the talent swap?
well if i play piercing verdict i would want to csmash before i spear
thats a bit sus
yea prob
dang
i play it when not playing unhinged
is there a way of running both at the same time?
wait
But then again non unhinged bladestorm is just cc break
mud whats the point of no bladestorm
Zdps spell
Precision makes more sense for killing a target assuming ur not being rooted
Hmm actually
Idk
Bladestorm is good just in the sense it makes u cc immune too
Precision over bladestorm idk its close at least
Either should be ok
idk
when im playing solo shuffle without unhinged
i almost never press bladestorm
unless im tryna avoid cc
or its a dk and im tryna heal of pet dots
Avoid cc is big
Lmao
sometimes i do it by accident
but on purpose?
nah
i miss fury already
bladestorm did real dmg
arms bladestorm is goofy
Overpower feels like it hitting surprisingly hard tho
I've seen 60k OPs
Dreadnaught included
Did fury get nerfed?
Feels like all I can do in ss is try to save my team, no kill pressure
Ignore your team
Full ungabunga kill target
Fury is pve
Hit ur enemy
Dont do nothing else
Go forth
What
he's the best lock in US of A
hard to 1 shot at 2k
is giving up two 424 pvp pieces for two set arms 411 pieces worth do you guys think?
no
-_-
424 > 411
Yes
wouldve been 30 if the lock was 2k
Imo if you are still over 30% vers yes
I see
hows 4 set
anybody watching the ksi fight tonight?
Whats that
op + dread gonna slap once dreadnaught gets its 40% buff soon
4 set rly good too
so. Thunderous Roar build vs Spear in 2v2?
Im inclined to say thunderous
You get into some very deep damp pretty quickly and consistent pressure is pretty good
k, i do kinda miss the root of Spear but i agree
spear forces cooldowns by itself
You can hit 150k spears
- dot
I would play spear 24/7
I wonder how big the initial hit could be
Open something like
Hamstring > MS > OP > OP > Stormbolt > CS > Spear > MS
Or maybe if u run precision u fish for a sudden death proc first too
Fokken 150k mortal strikes gonna pop off
Maybe... some hurricane action on top of that
so is Fury just bad now in 2v2?
even with a resto druid?
Thats your best case scenario but yes
the ruski guy who got r1 arms now plays a interesting build
na its not that odd but he plays with blunt instruments over wb, takes both spear talents
like this
barbaric training too
Ye i dont agree with taking that tbh
saw qwneer doing same thing
Hey that's my exact build, I usually take a throw instead of Stam tho
Double spear talent is great for the one shot
Also i dont take unhinged either
i like it
Then i double down and take blademaster
Instead of recklessness
He has reck and unhinged
Interesting
I guess your 1 bladestorm becomes a bit stronger
but double bs feels good
That's how I've always done it, the second bladestorm is cool but I'd rather have the maximum burst
both r good
vs cleaves i pref bm
but rn im playing a lot of shrek cleave
so we just korean swap 1 shot
so im tacking wlt
Sweeping double storm into cleaves is nasty
just disgusting comp
funny how dks were crying after the nerfs before season started
Udk dodging nerfs so long is wild
That 2 points into 5% stam, psychological warfare? "Wtf this guy has giga gear"
weird, i tried UH and my dmg kinda sucked
udk dodging nerfs, fury dodging buffs, prot getting kneecapped
lol
Frost dks
many strange things this ssn
Are nasty too
but a lot less than usual
then u did somethign wrong
nastily bad
I will never play disarm
Nah
u never know what blizz might do
Ms nerfed by 5%
Dead spec
++
The best buff we could get
i hope blizz only slaps our dmg
Is being able to buy tier pieces
imagine not having 4 set already
im using pve pieces tho
how? catalyst aint out yet
just using heroic set for now
vault
o
borüm
i have alt warr for important purposes
it started for gold and mount farming
now he has consumed more gold than he has given me
omnomnom 300k for sl leggos
omnomonmom 100k for the infurious hat and feet
smd
i had like 1m gold when df started now i have 100k left š
Who starts wow
After tbc
Wtf
anyone else unable to queue for brawl?
My warr got
what
you're like 10 years old
15
youngin
Wtf
deadass why play wow?
Im 30
makes sense
dont like league or runescape anymore, never like cs or valorant or overwatch
total level?
Ur 15
so y not play wow
U played runescape???
ye
not so long ago
How
osrs do be fun though
ngl RS had more scams than real life
f2p grind to atk def hp and str like 66 before i realized it boring af
roblox, fortnite, sea of thieves lmao
fr fr
Never got scammed
getting scammed on minecraft for me
3 stacks of diamond blocks
fr fr
all scammed
how u getting scammed on minecraft bro just go mine š
multiplayer server
what do u even trade for on those servers
some friend invited me to from school
he said he was gonna give me admin
LOL

like access to cheat commands n shit
and worldedit
set entire spawn to tnt blocks and blow it up
xdd
Did u punch him the day after
Is mortal strike prio over execute procs?
only with op and sharpen
u mean mortal wounds
Nah the dot
for mastery dam
i hope
Both probs same duration tho
u get testicular torsion
Why
mastery user
wdym
even if u dont stack mastery u still want to keep the debuff on them
so u do more damage...
its alwyso notm them
cant
i have to take my antidepressants
War breaker before avatar with the blade storms torment?
ye is good
15 plays wow and is on antidepressants welcome to 2023
wtf u want
i wanna see you get glad
š
soon
first i get glad in bench press
then i get glad in wow then glad in deadlift
same
Brain still developing etc
Is vault only way to get tier pieces??
i dont want to take them
on 23rd we get the catalyst
or pve ye
Aight
is that real advice?
if they have 1-bang setup then sure otherwise nah
if u arent double dps trinkets ur trolling
like ret/warr could blow you up through parry and bm in 1-2 globals
outplayed
ya ret back to killing people by accident
Not sure why they buffed them at allā¦
Same with feral damage though. It didnāt need any boost and it got one
full crit arms retwarr never take your foot off the gas
everyone needs to get on the ret copium next patch...
be delusional and say warr sucks so it doesnt get nerfed š
I mean youāre not wrong may as well find a feral or ret who wants to climb
Still 40min que for dps eu?
ye
i did it T.T
gz man
alwaysa great feeling to 6 round
but u got like no rating
that seems short
thats weird
God job:) keep it going
ggs
How do you strafe with both q/e and a/d bound to spells? Do you move with different buttons than WASD?
dude wins 2 rounds and almost gets double your cr
anyone use any good macros for arms?
check the pins, some good macros
otherwise make sure you're just using arena1/2/3 macros for sb and such
how you have enough binds for arena1/2/3
im using sb target and sb focus, but i dont have place for that type of macro
i have an Asus Spatha and all 6 key on the side is used :x
@steep inlet omg Troma hiiii

Will catalyst have one charge per week again?
yes
3s is so dead , impossible to find team mate in the 2k cr range .
tier set pvp buyable 25 jan ?
mouse both clicks is walking/running mate
i use wasd as abilaty keys š
Yeah but that only makes you go forward, how do you hit people behind you while moving ahead?
ret hitting for 250-300k is fine, legit sl s2 feeling again
Game is shit
They hit even harder
Which is funni
just run away from him or press defensives np
wat
imagine defending a spec that can hit for 600-700k in 3 globals
by saying "press def cd" or "but they don't have mobility"
And they can just global you in a blind again
Crazy that nobody thought ret was good until this week when the only thing about their damage that actually got buffed was final reck
Set bonus is big game I guess
Just hamstring and leap/intervene to your healer and gg you dodged a ret burst.
Nah, ret was busted before that, but buffing rets damage again was just icing on the cake. And blizzard doesn't even understand that ret players don't want more damage
so that mean every ret do 6/0 and they are all at 3600 rating š¤
Ret fits the dk style more than dk. Slow and big pp dam.
Just get the druid you play with the cyclone or sumthin
you are +70% speed under leap, enough to tempo behind a pillar and stun/fear
you're delusional
why would rdruid play w/ warrior and not a uhdk or ass rogue or ww monk or ret pal or shadow priest or ele shaman or any warlock or many other specs?
š¤£
Just ignore pain the burst smh
serious question because i never know, disarm have utility vs ret ? or its minor cc ?
I don't know if you realise, but there are classes who can't just "leap away"
Because the druid is playing with your uhdk because tsg is back.
doesnt do shit to their burst
but that prevent them to use much spells ? or its just 1-2 minor spells they cant use under disarm ?
They cant crusader strike 
