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elfin surge
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it sucks rend does literally no dam

crude bane
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anyone know if holinka still in dev team

south kestrel
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Soooo not worth taking then lol

pure hornet
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A weird question

crude bane
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i feel like back in WOD

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get OS by anything

elfin surge
pure hornet
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What gems can i buy to hold in bank. Insteadcof gold? For a while

south kestrel
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Cant you use slam for that

undone pumice
elfin surge
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rend does more dam

south kestrel
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right

elfin surge
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slam is used to like

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kill totems

undone pumice
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slam is for kill totems and when capping rage only

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but whenever u slam a totem and it survives with 106hp u get crippling depression

elfin surge
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slam cap totem but it survives and still stuns you

south kestrel
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hahaha

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thanks for the advice

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still grinding from 1600-1800 lol

elfin surge
tulip shard
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Mud, are you saying to run Rend?

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No EU warriors seem to be running it at the top of the 3's ladder

elfin surge
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up2u i guess

tulip shard
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Imo it feels a tad bit clunky, thats just my opinion

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As in the rotation feels a bit clunky, or I'm just a pepega

south kestrel
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ele is so fucked lol

molten dagger
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ss queues are ridic

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man

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i'm online 4 hours iplay maybe 45 minutes and 3 hours are spent waiting for pop

agile aspen
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just be low mmr then queues are only 5m

molten dagger
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i am pretty low lol

quaint snow
tulip shard
torpid roost
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Rend feels wonky but I can't put my finger on why

stiff merlin
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anyone got a good plater profile that shows what cds targets used

bright stream
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could just be pressing a real button instead

torpid roost
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But it does more application damage than slam

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And applies a lame bleed

bright stream
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right but when are you even pressing slam?

torpid roost
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Yeah if I have that much uptime they're dead or we're fucked

bright stream
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like its on my bar, but it barely comes up

south kestrel
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Idk how youre meant to stick on an ele sham

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literally unkillable lol

bright stream
torpid roost
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Have an affliction lock on your team, you just do the killing

south kestrel
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so tanky though lol

torpid roost
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He can rot them

south kestrel
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had a dh and an arms warrior

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would be nice to have something else

torpid roost
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They have a shitload of anti melee tools

south kestrel
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Sure do.

elfin surge
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ele are only super aids when playing with rdruid tbh

south kestrel
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had a pres voker on their team

elfin surge
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Ret/War/Rdruid has made a return

green wyvern
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Ret is gonna be unkillable with warrior peels in 10.0.5

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and warrior is gonna be durable enough to live by itself

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I might just run duel like every game and peel for my ret

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since ret does so much dam

lethal niche
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i want to switch to arms

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but my fury gear is haste : /

surreal compass
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I just tried arms, i seemed to be spamming overpower and ms a lot, is that right ?

muted surge
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Considering you only have ms op and slam, yes

surreal compass
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aight we playing right

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whats slam gladge

quaint snow
solemn moat
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"soon" meaning in 6 weeks since u can do it 2 weeks from now and its 1 piece per week lmao

quaint snow
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then yeah just buy more crit gear etc. as the season continues

quaint snow
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and if you watch mud, his stats are shite and he still owns…. Youre

elfin surge
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arms 2 set rly good

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i need it

solemn moat
quaint snow
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ok chef, yeah true dat

zenith marlin
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at this point I think this can be used in pvp

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once again I get PvE points hehaehuaehe

craggy socket
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You raid as arms or fury?

zenith marlin
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y not prot kekw

craggy socket
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Haha not a fan of tanks

zenith marlin
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you know the one spec we have that is 5x better than the closest competition

elfin surge
craggy socket
zenith marlin
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pretty sure I can solo 3 arms warrs as a prot warr

elfin surge
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tank player spotted

feral heath
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What happens if 2 warriors use the duel talent on the same target

zenith marlin
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dang alfred thats a good thought

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I have seen what happens when 2 warriors use spear of the same target

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zigzagzigzagzigzag into DC

obtuse musk
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can arms do anything against dh? 3 lobbys in ss yesterday against dh/dk....lost all but 1 or 2 rounds in each

elfin surge
zenith marlin
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There is like 10 sec window where DH actually takes dmg from arms

feral heath
zenith marlin
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And we happen to have a 6 sec window where we actually do dmg

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besides that no

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and then they just fly up

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just no

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: - )

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Also stay tf away from a DH that isnt targetting you

obtuse musk
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its so bs...and they supposedly got a nerf. just watched tren do 11 mil damage vs arms 4 mil

zenith marlin
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why give mf free cleave

obtuse musk
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ya

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hard in ss tho

zenith marlin
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that arns oribs had bad match up vs healer and 2nd dps as well

obtuse musk
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when dk forever stuns/grips

zenith marlin
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probs*

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just stay away from ur teammates so DH cant cleave

obtuse musk
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ill try that i guess

obtuse musk
zenith marlin
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dstance is pretty good if both enemy dps target u

full quiver
wheat crane
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Dk you can just pump, they have like no defensives vs physical dmg

obtuse musk
wheat crane
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Ah yea

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If its shuffle ill actually go healer vs that till dk go is over then swap to dk

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No point getting cleaved

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You can duel it too

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Depending what rating youre at theres a good chance the dk will ibf if you stormbolt his go too even if youre not on him

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If they w key you just parry the cds and try to reflect the hunt

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Pull them los of their healer

spice hornet
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Right critcake

lethal kestrel
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is this helm worht crafting

green wyvern
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yea

kindred viper
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queues scuffed again? second time in a row where it doesn't pop, just disappears

south kestrel
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Cool, got put into a game with 2 prot pally healers as arms and I just get trained the entire game

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what a fucking joke

lethal kestrel
green wyvern
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not sure rn

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its not a lot

lethal kestrel
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why is it worth then

lethal kestrel
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so if u queue to much u will get booted keks

south kestrel
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how on earth are you meant to wina game against ele, dh and dk if you have a prot pally healer lmao

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this should not be a thing

brazen rock
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helm proc rate is 3.5 ppm, scaled up to 424 with 30% vers its around 14k dmg per proc iirc

lethal kestrel
brazen rock
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none of the embellishments are meant to be game-changing

lethal kestrel
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well the one we get for feed is pretty cool with the CC effects

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Checking pins for stats for fury --> Fury IS TURBOSHIT NOW BTW

thick reef
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Fury isn't bad yet, will be when the arms buffs come though

elfin surge
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fury is garbage

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do not play it

grand scaffold
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bruh]

lethal kestrel
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sadge ive tried so hard to climb and reached 1600 rating ( i know its shit compared to all of u here ) so now i need to redo it all again sadge

thick reef
grand scaffold
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its goofyt

lethal kestrel
craggy socket
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Rating doesn't matter

thick reef
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Fury ain't bad, arms just love playing up their own hype.

Though once those arms buffs come fury will absolutely be trash

craggy socket
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If you are going for the tmog set you got along time, RSS top end is already 3k there wil be so much inflation everyone will get 1800 easily

lethal kestrel
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yeah i might aswell learn arms pvp already sadge

craggy socket
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arms is the goat melee spec in WoW's history

lethal kestrel
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RSS? 🙂

craggy socket
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ranked solo shuffle

lethal kestrel
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I love arms its my fav spec but i was just thinking bout my rating i will however swap then and start play more arms

proper sequoia
lethal kestrel
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What weapon enchant do you guys go?

craggy socket
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Writ

lethal kestrel
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seems to be mixed feelings about fury also pepsihands

proper sequoia
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I went for sophic but not sure if correct or not

thick reef
craggy socket
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fury is just zug, you'd be better off playing dh if you like that playstyle

lethal kestrel
brazen rock
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furry pfp being weird as usual

proper sequoia
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That's true in comparison to arms but the specc will still be exactly what it is today

lethal kestrel
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Guys do you go wafting writ on your wep enchant

proper sequoia
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Most top players have sophic

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I saw someone mentioning getting an extra socket on helmet somehow, how is that done in Dragonflight?

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Except for the medallion/currency from weekly chest

lethal kestrel
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I use frozen devotion atm

clear pine
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can you win a 1vs1 as arms against other meeles like fury or ww? they just outlive me

lethal kestrel
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fury got pretty nice sustain :S

full quiver
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@elfin surge r we good

elfin surge
lethal kestrel
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Does everyone here ply with sword and shield swap for shield block combo as arms?

full quiver
stiff merlin
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Man mages melt war it seems like

lethal kestrel
dark sparrow
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Only worth if you have conquest 1h and shield tho so better save up or open vault as prot

lethal kestrel
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oh

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Ok ty!

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i assume its better to get full conq gear firstly

dark sparrow
proper sequoia
lethal kestrel
dark sparrow
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Deeez Nuts

lethal kestrel
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You need to train on your social skills

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Mastery loses value with Skullsplitter builds, and Haste gains value with bleed builds. the pin says but joe fernandes talents play neither of those 🤔

dark sparrow
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nah but fr fr, you dont use shield block as arms its dog

lethal kestrel
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is it bad even when getting trained on? i thought it was good then

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this spec is more depth than i thought hehe

dark sparrow
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not worth the gcd's to go through

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also dont look at joefernandes for warrior guidance, no flame

lethal kestrel
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well he is arena champ is he not

lethal kestrel
obtuse musk
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wait who uses shield block? ive never seen a war do this in retail

dark sparrow
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for builds just use the ones from pins

lethal kestrel
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Ty alot man

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bless u

dark sparrow
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if you really want to look at joe, dont straight up copy his shit but just learn matchups & general knowledge shit but other than that, much better people to watch and learn from

hot solstice
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2nd ring or on use trinket this week?

lethal kestrel
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and listen

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bro arms is SLAPPING

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lmfao

south kestrel
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Ret is slapping too

craggy socket
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30 fucking minute que times for shuffle

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guess there is no fix for it huh

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average wait time 13 minutes has to be the biggest crock of shit

undone pumice
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@lethal kestrel sugmaballs

lethal kestrel
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WTF is this dmg

proper sequoia
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Yeah as long as there are no healers we’ll be stuck with those ques

craggy socket
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RSS is great but its fucked bc now nobody even bothers with LFG.

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less than 15 groups in NA right now for 3s that I can see

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o.O

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hey a que pop :L

sharp meteor
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I remember for all of sl I'd app to the same people I saw in lfg and every season got declined

grand scaffold
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bruh im sitting 1 hr ques still

sharp meteor
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not quite sure what people sit around and wait for

lethal kestrel
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5 min quue for me and after that 3 min

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Im blessed for changing to arms might be the lower mmr / rating also

south kestrel
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arms feels real good when youve got a nice healer

undone pumice
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arms feels real good when you've got a conquest weapon

flat dome
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Arms feels real good when you aren't focused the entire match

undone pumice
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I own a Conquest Weapon for home defense, since that's what the Founding Vanilla PvP'ers intended. Four Duelists break into my house. "What the Ion?" As I grab my Gladiator's Medallion and Crimson Gladiator's Greatsword. Slam a golf ball sized hole through the first Duelist, he's dead on the spot. Draw my Mortal Strike on the Demon Hunter, miss him entirely because he used Blur and it nails the Hunters' pet. I have to resort to the Bladestorm mounted at the top of my action bar loaded with Unhinged, "Tally ho lads" the Bladestorm shreds two Rogues in the first tick, the sound and extra Mortal Strikes set off the Mugambala Announcer. Hover Rend and Charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on his Healer to arrive since Skullsplitter wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the Founding Vanilla PvP'ers intended.

craggy socket
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Lost 100 rating today just being focused

undone pumice
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sounds like you should los the enemy casters and not your healers

craggy socket
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Yeah

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How you gonna LoS an ele shaman?

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DK and Monk?

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Ill line it lmao

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mabye i could ignore the pain

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😄

scarlet barn
mental knoll
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lotta bitching about SS but it made it possible for me to get full elite gladiator set and the vicious mount for the first time ever since starting in vanilla

regal cradle
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conq wrist or 2nd conq ring?

flat dome
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Fury warrior whisps me after SS, after failing to do anything other than zug zug "Good job sucking ass"

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Also, what is it with tichondrius players and using chinese text?

swift hornet
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I'm swapping to arms from fury but I have the conquest polearm. Is it worth to buy the conquest greatsword for the crit or just keep the polearm and pick up other pieces instead

lethal kestrel
grand scaffold
lethal kestrel
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Korean on eu players? :S

grand scaffold
lethal kestrel
grand scaffold
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there are korean players on america too

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a lot of them

lethal kestrel
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do they not have high ping?

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why not play on their serv?

grand scaffold
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im in africa

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i play on american servers

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but i should be on eu

muted surge
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Unlucky

grand scaffold
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its just because of the friends you have

muted surge
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Is there even a large Asian wow server?

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Compareable to eu / na

grand scaffold
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idk

muted surge
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Chinese servers are their own bubble

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Japanese idk, Korea too small

flat dome
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I always thought it was just tichondrius players being their idiot selves

torpid roost
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Asian servers exist, and there's a sizable Asian pop on Tich and a fucking massive one on Illidan

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(US)

flat dome
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It's how susanexpress got it's start

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The days of seeing dead bodies floating in the air

torpid roost
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Bro, those spammers were awful, but their corpse art was amazing

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They had a semi-animated floating corpse marquee in ironforge on my server

proper sequoia
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Prefer to get armor pieces over misc ones but thats just personal pref

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Gonna get them all in the end nevertheless

silent osprey
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Good afternoon everyone, I have a very simple question which may even sound stupid to some but I'm absolutely new to warrior: as a human, can I drop Medallion and get Insigna to run with Badge?

ember timber
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Ring 600 versa

storm spade
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wrist you can get wm 421 gear, jewellery you can only get from conq, i'd get the ring myself

regal cradle
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421 wrist has the wrong stats though

muted surge
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Ah didn’t read

muted surge
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Considering you need full conq anyway, so getting 1 with worse stats but higher str and 1 jwl with correct and higher stats

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Should be better than just 1 item no?

agile aspen
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I think the real question is second ring vs 418 crafted

regal cradle
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Altho i was thinking to save my strife to get 421 crit weapon since i chose a conq mastery weapon before

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but not sure if its much better

outer parcel
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gues #daretoask. i have 3 conq items 2 of it are set pieces. the head and shoulders are upgrades but i dont know wich one to pick =/ headpiece is haste mastery the other is haste versitality, can anyone help me out ?

agile aspen
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take shoulders you dont want to use helm

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get crafted helm

outer parcel
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alright 😄 cheers ^^

silent osprey
outer parcel
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arms

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but what is the crafted helmet? is it one for those work orders/blacksmithing ones ? like where i got my boots ?

wheat pecan
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Yes

agile aspen
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yeah

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its stronk

leaden cliff
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quick question as I can't find the information anywhere. I'm looking at picking up the crimson gladiator's insignia to use for pve dps. How much conquest does it cost to upgrade? and what rating for the highest?

agile aspen
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doesnt cost conq to upgrade it costs honor

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caps at like 408 tho

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theyre quite poor this time around unless you have nothing else

lucid walrus
leaden cliff
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ah ok, thanks

lucid walrus
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the honor to upgrade it isn’t bad at all though

warm portal
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The honor to upgrade is low but unless you have nothing else the gear is at best a solid placeholder for PvE. I've got abunch of the 408 and the stat weights/distributions are not very good for slaying NPCs.

leaden cliff
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the 408 insignia for arms actually sims pretty good.

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high haste and a strength proc for ToM

warm portal
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Ahh yeah I can believe that. Haven't used or simmed the gear for arms pve yet myself

flat dome
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devokers are dumb

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84k dps lmao

quick carbon
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devoker does feel a lot stronger rn yea

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I don’t think they’re insane or anything tho

pseudo star
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do you think its worth changing for ring sold for honor?

quick carbon
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ya

pseudo star
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damn 500 versa seems juicy

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ill then

quick carbon
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honor ring 421 in pvp

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Get honor ring

pseudo star
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honor ring is 411

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ilvl

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421 is for sparks of something

quick carbon
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411 still 30 ilvls higher

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Also has vers on it

pseudo star
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alright, fair point

quick carbon
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pve gear bad

open glacier
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is this normal?

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cant upgrade

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I'm rival 2 in soloQ

pseudo star
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can i have 2 haste+vers rings?i dont want to waste 500 honor r8n

slate tendon
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gys

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fury stats priority?

torpid roost
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If that matters

open glacier
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I did

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I was in 1957

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then another game

torpid roost
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Welp, I got nothing

open glacier
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and 2009

slate tendon
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fury stats priority?

torpid roost
elfin surge
open glacier
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@torpid roost

torpid roost
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Also what he said

open glacier
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I skipped rival 1 tho

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maybe bug

torpid roost
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If you're trying to do one that requires a win at 2k+ often you have to actually play/win one more

open glacier
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this was kind of meme

torpid roost
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6 wins is 6 wins brother, gj

open glacier
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but I cant

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reloaded, closed and opened game

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played another

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and yet nothing

torpid roost
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Yeah that's boggling then

open glacier
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soloQ allows gear improvement?

torpid roost
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Assume it's a bug

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99% sure it does yes

open glacier
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damn

elfin surge
# open glacier WTF

lol it shows the wrong rank icon for solo shuffle. Should be the rival icon but it's showing the challenger one?

open glacier
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oh right

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maybe itsbecause I skipped from 14xx to 1957

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xDD

rare sentinel
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they reset solo shuffle or do you have different raitings fury / arms?

open glacier
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oh maybe if I change spec

elfin surge
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defo bugged give it a little bit it'll prob fix itself or queue up another game.

elfin surge
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too big of a rating jump, game broke.

open glacier
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Challenger 2 at 2009

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FML

lucid walrus
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jesus

muted surge
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Busted class

ripe turtle
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sustained strength or waking stats on chestpiece for pvp? arms war

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(so either 150 primary stat) or (111 sterngth + 300 stamina)

pseudo star
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its challenger->rival->duelist?

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or challenger->gladiator?

steel trout
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challenger > rival >duelist > elite

agile aspen
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i think sustained strength is dead

crude bane
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nAAAAH

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for real

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retpal

night verge
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arms pog now?

crude bane
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still the worst melee

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ret is the best now

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lets solo shuffle the nerf and buff and wait the next hotfix

night verge
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i have a level 50 paladin

crude bane
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you have probably 2 weeks

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if they dont nerf in 2 Weeks

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then you can zug zug ret and get ez 2K4

night verge
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warrior has more style though

crude bane
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the ret also crited me for 150K

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retorsion

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at least new LoL season started

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so fun i can play league now

undone pumice
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time to play yuumi while in solo q

crude bane
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xDDDDD

pseudo star
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does arms have good survi?

crude bane
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yes bro

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arms its the best def melee

undone pumice
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yes sir

crude bane
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you rly tanky

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they prob nerf it

undone pumice
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rogues get foldee rhey have inferior armor

night verge
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are you running the spear or the roar build w rend?

undone pumice
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we have big plate instant deflect all arrows and swords

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i like spear build

night verge
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usually not a fan of spear :sigh:

undone pumice
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then dont

night verge
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is it more dam though cause then i feel pressured to do so 😄

undone pumice
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spear is cool

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roar is cool

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pick what u want

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maybe spearbetter for good setup and solo but if u dont have fun its not better

grand scaffold
slim glacier
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How does Arms do against Feral? Like 2s with a healer on both teams

undone pumice
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feral savage kitten

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big cleave

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pressure ur healer

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from enemy feral

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and you

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dying

slim glacier
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Nice 😂

tribal wedge
elfin surge
ripe turtle
agile aspen
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like gold cost?

ripe turtle
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ye

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guess its for the stam but not sure how much 300 stam equals in hp

steel trout
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doesnt really make a diff between those two

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just go waking stats

gentle horizon
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with the nerfs to other classes, are either war specs viable now?

undone pumice
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arms good

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fury fuck bad

tranquil raven
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I have a question that i somehow can't find the answer to: How important are pve set pieces? how do i get them and does the itemlevel matter in pvp? A link that explains it would be appreciated

violet fossil
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You can get them through vault from pvping

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The difference is the tier you get from pvp will scale up to 424 in pvp

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2 weeks from now you’ll be able to convert your main pieces to tier

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1 piece every 1 week

tranquil raven
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tyvm. that means i can get the full pvp set and then swap 2 pieces to pve pieces for set bonus?

gentle horizon
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i like playing fury more but if theyre so bad i guess ill swap 😦

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for arms, is it better to use fury conquest gear or use arms honor gear?

elfin surge
empty marsh
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fury was the more fun spec until they trashed it this xpack lmao

crude bane
empty marsh
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now it's funny 2 button

elfin surge
empty marsh
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correction

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until they trashed it in sep

elfin surge
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shadowlands fury was infinitely more braindead than current

gentle horizon
elfin surge
empty marsh
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is arms tier worth dropping some ilvl for

gentle horizon
empty marsh
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what is even happening

elfin surge
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lmao

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maybe if you reworded your awfully put together question I would be able to answer it.

grand scaffold
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bruh

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demo can have 2 tyrants at the same time

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wtf

frosty meadow
grand scaffold
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no clue

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but it just happened vs me

gentle horizon
turbid ember
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Bug abuse early, bug abuse often. This is the Blizzard way

mystic barn
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u mean dekel

turbid ember
full quiver
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i remember mud saying arms was super good

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and then he walked it back

elfin surge
gentle horizon
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I'd like this witnesses testimony to be submitted into evidence

pure hornet
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Lol

wheat jay
elfin surge
gentle horizon
full quiver
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matt what's ur check pvp bud

stuck karma
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Hahaha

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True war main

turbid ember
wheat jay
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not spec main

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if you are then suffer if your spec is dogshit

pure hornet
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He was mudded😂

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So if i can read i should be dk

gentle horizon
full quiver
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mud queues with tanks

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idk why u guys look up to him so much

wheat jay
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fear-phobic?

#

oh

#

i meaaaaaaaaaaan

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

@elfin surge what spec did you main half of shadowlands?

wheat jay
#

and 2nd half?

elfin surge
#

the other warrior spec

full quiver
gentle horizon
full quiver
#

we have now confirmed mud is a liar

#

so i beleive mattdrought

pure hornet
full quiver
#

walk that back too bitch

pure hornet
#

😂

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

didnt you boost him in viewergames?

full quiver
#

go off sis

elfin surge
full quiver
wheat jay
#

no

#

yes

full quiver
#

no that was who you TRIED to boost

wheat jay
#

but other one

elfin surge
#

yes.

wheat jay
#

thats not cali

#

liar

#

too small nose

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

you okay after it?

pure hornet
#

One question, how can we check best gems? The ones with double high stats? They dont appear anywhere and on ah it takes 64 years to find

#

And three months

lucid walrus
#

honestly i'd just check what most people use on murlok

#

rocking these rn personally

pure hornet
#

Even so i dont find some of them in the ah

crude bane
#

the hunt dot bty

#

bty

#

btw

quick carbon
#

Just parry it

wheat jay
#

dot still applies 😄

crude bane
#

parry the dot

#

ok bro

steel trout
#

cant u reflect it))

crude bane
#

i pref diffuse stormkeeper

#

dont you think ?

#

oh yeah

#

sorry

#

im on my ww

#

wrong discord kekw

steel trout
crisp zephyr
#

does anyone thinks its worth getting from the vault the head from tier set (i already have the hands) or no cause two items with no versa

steel trout
#

4 set is nice on arms

lusty moth
#

helm is embellished item

empty marsh
#

what weap enchant btw

pure hornet
#

How do you get resplendent illimited diamond?

long ridge
#

crafting order

pure hornet
#

Can u only have one?

long ridge
#

rank 2 is really easy to get, rank 3 u gotta have them recraft it

#

yeah it says unique on it

#

look @ other top ranked warriors to get an idea of their gear

#

is this typical dmg readout?

crude bane
#

so frustrating to loose some solo and have to wait 25 Min to play again

long ridge
#

where is my execute O_O

quick carbon
#

Sidearm ew

azure willow
#

god damn ret hurts

slender plume
#

Okay so for fury is it Vers(30%)> Haste > Mast > Crit > Vers(30+%)?

grand scaffold
#

anybody ever seen this before?

wheat jay
#

ye

grand scaffold
#

never seen it before

full quiver
#

lol

long ridge
#

sidearm is no good? 😮

#

put another pt into wild strikes instead?

lucid walrus
#

sidearm is ass, yeah

long ridge
#

mm yeah marksman hunter is fucking godly

worthy fern
#

Wild strikes, bitter, shatter

#

Anything else

long ridge
#

ok

slender plume
#

I heard bitter is dogwater to take because the cd

worthy fern
#

It is

long ridge
#

yeah but

#

if ur being focused bro

#

until we get ignore pain

worthy fern
#

But you basically have a free point if you don’t need shatter or wrecking

slender plume
#

tbh wild strikes, shatter, I even played a few games with crushing force

lucid walrus
#

having a decurse is kinda cool

slender plume
#

Slam hitting that hard is rude

long ridge
#

bro crushing force? slam dmg? cringe

worthy fern
#

Your free point is pretty meh regardless but if your the focus bitter is prob best option

quick carbon
slender plume
#

wild stirkes yeah

long ridge
#

wild strikes

slender plume
#

is my stat prio right?

worthy fern
#

Yea I do that most often as well

slender plume
#

vers to 30 haste mast crit vers? or does vers over 30 take higher priority over something else

#

I am at 33% vers and trying to figure out what gems to run

#

and enchants

long ridge
#

I thought pvp fury Haste>=Vers>Mastery>Crit

long ridge
#

that's arms

slender plume
#

Yeah arms is crit

quick carbon
#

I mean who isn’t playing arms

#

fury’s garbage

long ridge
#

this guy ^

slender plume
#

Lol arms is so boring

long ridge
#

and MUD

#

lol

#

i have no issue w/ arms being boring

quick carbon
#

arms is the most fun it’s been in years

long ridge
#

yeah i love it

#

you fucking smash people into the dirt

quick carbon
#

You’re always hitting something and you hit dummy hard

long ridge
#

it's so satisfying

slender plume
#

Fury is awesome man

fallen bridge
#

So once catalyst comes out, were gonna need to dump 4 pieces in at least to get set bonuses on 424 right?

quick carbon
#

fury imo is so boring u do a lot of hits but they do no damage

lucid walrus
#

arms is gonna be much more fun once overpower actually does damage

quick carbon
#

Arms hits the same amount of globals and hits way harder

long ridge
#

yeah fury sucks now anyway

quick carbon
long ridge
#

yeah unless u get them from vault venaseph

lucid walrus
#

it can do something for sure

fallen bridge
#

derp

lucid walrus
#

that talent it gets is pretty cool though

gentle horizon
#

are there gems for crit?

long ridge
#

vers crit yes

#

radiant malygite

gentle horizon
#

i see now ty

worthy fern
#

I hit a 55k op the other day also

#

Was very surprised

long ridge
#

rate my transmog and UI

gentle horizon
#

should i replace any of this for arms honor gear?

fallen bridge
#

birdmogh

long ridge
#

if u get focused go health trinket

#

also put vers on rings

#

and speed on cloak

#

what u mean replace with honor gear though

quick carbon
#

if u get focused you just focus them harder

long ridge
#

preference then i guess

crude bane
#

wahts the point

#

of keep playing

#

also how

long ridge
#

who is this

crude bane
#

2K + game

turbid ember
#

Vers will fix it (tm)

long ridge
#

your grandma can't break 1.7k after 2.2k games?

lucid walrus
#

that's 377 games

#

not counting leavers and all

long ridge
#

bro i've played 60 rounds and i'm 1750

gentle horizon
#

these are also my stats out of pvp

long ridge
#

no imo keep 421/424 pieces over 411

gentle horizon
#

kk ty

turbid ember
#

Inflation will get me out of 1500 eventually

#

Or playing sober, but one is more likely than the other

long ridge
#

i'll be your sponsor bro

crude bane
#

lets play a game

#

how many game

#

the 2K2 game 1K6 CR

#

won

long ridge
#

like percentage wise or

#

total won rounds

crude bane
#

this solo

#

6 Game

#

how many he won

#

guess it

empty marsh
#

i'm gonna guess

#

6!

long ridge
#

lets see

crude bane
#

he won 1 back to 1K5

#

oh yeah

long ridge
#

500 games

crude bane
#

and he blamed

#

dps

#

ofc

long ridge
#

500 games won

crude bane
#

how he can even play 2K games

#

and have 0 improvement

#

only blaming ppl

nimble jasper
#

some people just suck

turbid ember
#

That's solo queue in every game

nimble jasper
#

idk how people play hundreds of shuffle

#

i played less than 100 and i already hate the mode

coral axle
crude bane
#

this is some kind of art

turbid ember
#

Ever play a Jungler in a MOBA?

long ridge
#

they're teenagers or basement dwellers but do not try to improve just keep playing the same

coral axle
#

there is no way a teenager would be stuck in 1500

nimble jasper
#

i played like 80 rounds cuz it was easiest path to 2.1 for pve gearing

#

then stopped

coral axle
#

my brain and reaction times were so cracked out at that age shit would be in slow mo

long ridge
#

that's true

crude bane
#

im done solo for today

#

time to Q

#

LEAGUE OF LEGEND

#

PLACEMENT

nimble jasper
#

are usually 18 and under

coral axle
nimble jasper
turbid ember
#

Solo queue as a jungler for similar experience

crude bane
#

im qeuing as adc

#

and blame jungler

coral axle
crude bane
#

so relaxing

nimble jasper
#

pika’s first r1 he was 12

#

lol

coral axle
#

holy

nimble jasper
#

granted it was 5s

#

kalvish is like 16 iirc

coral axle
#

I know nothing about the 5s meta but was rogue even good? I thought people played obscene caster comps

nimble jasper
#

season 12 i think is considered

#

rogue’s only bad season

#

in wow’s pvp history

#

thats the season reckful played warrior

#

for his 110-3 vid or something

wise dirge
#

Is Solo Shuffle bugged or something?

uneven turret
#

do u guys think a 40+ yd can still get glad

wise dirge
#

Just won 5/6 matches, got my rating tho i did not get any damn progress for the mount

coral axle
nimble jasper
#

yeah its not an age thing but teenagers have more free time generally

uneven turret
#

isn't it a reaction time thing

coral axle
#

had some dude in my vanilla classic guild who was late 30s and floated around 2300-2500 in retail

nimble jasper
turbid ember
#

I swear if I see "Is solo shuffle broke" one more time...

coral axle
#

dude was my favorite boomer ever

nimble jasper
#

but yeah that was the season rogue was bad

turbid ember
#

No

nimble jasper
#

psure you need at least a certain rating

#

for mount progress

wise dirge
#

Im 1000+

nimble jasper
#

idk it was really low last i che ked

steep inlet
kind fog
steep inlet
#

:p

long ridge
#

no

nimble jasper
#

its mostly just a meme cuz how young alot of the top end rogues are

#

and rmx players in general

turbid ember
#

I don't think Blizz is gonna fix solo queue for healers. In their post they said they want to incentivize more healers to queue up...you can't incentivize eating a shit sandwich. You gotta remake the sandwich

coral axle
#

yeah people are actual deluded if they dont think reaction time is significantly better for young ppl

nimble jasper
#

i mean the system was flawed from the start

#

what good healer wants to play with randomized dps

turbid ember
#

That don't use their defensive CDs

coral axle
#

healers can go into LFG and find people 500 rating higher

nimble jasper
#

play an rdruid 40yd

coral axle
#

LFG is literally 75% "looking for heals"

nimble jasper
#

with fotm dps of the season

#

then flex your rating

#

more like 90

nimble jasper
lean burrow
nimble jasper
#

like rdruids who dont clone enemy cds when i give them a perfect chance to

lean burrow
#

old man

turbid ember
#

Old people are a protected class sir!

long ridge
#

only thing old on me is my wrinkly nuts

turbid ember
#

Is the rest of you new?

long ridge
#

yes sir

turbid ember
#

How much plastic surgery you in

long ridge
#

no surgery just good jeans

turbid ember
#

You in some Lucky jeans?

long ridge
#

that's right

#

everyone deserves a good pair of lucky's

turbid ember
#

Why is it a pair of pants when you only get one?

long ridge
#

my brain just fucking shrunk bro

#

'cause you got a pair of legs my man

#

or at least i pray you do

turbid ember
#

You got 2 arms, not a pair of shirts though

#

You'll never get past my stoner logic, so we'll move on.

undone pumice
sterile carbon
#

wtf should I do here. I have the belt and I have infurious helm and boots :\

coral axle
#

gems

thick reef
#

Unlucky

knotty tangle
#

Sell helm to vendor

#

Free 50g

simple rock
#

it's so wack that catalyst isn't out until the 23rd

sterile carbon
#

sadge 😢

simple rock
#

have 1 tier piece between 3 chars and mofos are out here with 4piece

knotty tangle
#

Yeah catalyst affect pvpers the most tbh

#

Rng wins games

thick reef
#

It’s wack that a bunch of people already have the 2 set bonus and I haven’t gotten any tier feelsbadman

simple rock
#

got one shot by arcane 4piece earlier

#

it's insane

thick reef
#

Smh

knotty tangle
#

Yeah the 2x 200k critt arcane mage is insane

#

Even post nerf

long ridge
#

people still leaving round 5 SS

#

u mean dis?

#

my face when i didn't even start pvping until like 2nd week of the season. one is pve tier though

grave raft
#

How’s everyone liking arms right now? Thinking about swapping to arms or ret, but afraid ret is gonna get nerfed lmao

long ridge
#

they just got buffed

cinder thorn
long ridge
#

arms is getting big buffs i think arms > ret

grave raft
long ridge
#

idk ret seems fine atm

grave raft
#

And revert or go back.

turbid ember
#

If ret gets nerfed over other classes first then there's a big problem

grave raft
#

Their damage was just already kinda large and now it’s just larger

#

Tru

long ridge
#

that's fine

grave raft
#

I can see that

long ridge
#

bro trust me

#

rogues do more dmg than ret

turbid ember
#

I never dread going against a ret, ever.

grave raft
#

Interesting.

long ridge
#

same

grave raft
#

I have both at 70 so I may just give both a whirl

long ridge
#

rogues r easy to kill but they do a lot of dmg and have a lot of cc

undone pumice
long ridge
#

much rather fight a ret u can just burn one defensive and they can't kill you

turbid ember
#

I just leap away when I see wings

grave raft
#

Tru. Is the general consensus arms > fury? Or is it down to taste

undone pumice
#

howl leap, stun on freedom

long ridge
#

arms

turbid ember
long ridge
#

yeah that's a good strat, good luck kiting a rogue or another arms or dh or ww or unholy

#

it's on gcd

undone pumice
#

it is but usually u dont get instantly 1 gcd

grave raft
#

I think I actually would like arms over ret for the mobility alone

long ridge
#

2 charges and a leap

grave raft
#

How is arms self heal? Pretty meh?

long ridge
#

we can still get kited by like hunters and shit tho

undone pumice
#

30% iv, 20% bi, 10% per parry

#
  • rally
grave raft
#

Y’all have me sold

long ridge
#

the self healing isn't bad yeahi t's not fury level but

#

it's okay. We are not tanks like unholy though

grave raft
#

I’m also high mountain so I get another charge w/ stun

undone pumice
#

pog

#

tauren bro

long ridge
#

i'm dark iron dwarf :o)

grave raft
#

Worst tmog for best race ya kno

undone pumice
#

im kalimdor tauren

turbid ember
#

Well I wouldn't call it the BEST race meta wise

undone pumice
#

and alt is pickle orc

turbid ember
#

But it'll be refreshing to see something different

undone pumice
#

alt 2 isaghar

grave raft
#

I wish my homies were on Alli, I’d be dark iron or kul tiran in a heartbeat

#

I know it’s cross faction, but I just can’t bring myself to be the only one on alliance haha

undone pumice
#

id prob be human or draenei

#

big chad male draenei

grave raft
#

E girl fem Draenei

gentle horizon
#

is sophic devotion better than frozen devotion?

warm portal
gentle horizon
turbid ember
#

Can't you do everything cross-faction now for PVP?

#

I thought there was 1 limit, maybe that was cross realm though

lucid walrus
#

bgs can't be queued xfac

#

even with merc mode iirc

cursive pike
#

is human good

turbid ember
#

Yes

long ridge
#

wow devoker is fucking god tier dps in soloshuffle vs melee

turbid ember
#

They got a nasty opener

#

Nasty cleave as well

zenith marlin
#

idk

#

I sometimes switch to them

#

they get clapped when they dont expect a switch

turbid ember
#

Hover away when you see the warrior charging. Ez gap

cursive pike
#

is crit the best stat for arms? so all crit gear?

quick echo
#

noticing a lot of ranked and current geared arms warriors running at 12+% haste but otherwise stacking crit. Is there some optimal minimum haste% arms needs to maintain in PvP? Or is the haste I'm seeing just from the gear available out there?

zenith marlin
#

just slam it crit

#

dont think it

#

xd

quick echo
#

word thats what I'm doin so far haha. noticed that the full honor set while stacking crit only got me to like 5% haste which seemed low

#

wasn't sure if some GCD shit requires a certain haste%

#

or something

zenith marlin
#

crit is nice when 50% of our dmg occurs in 10 seconds every 90 seconds

quick echo
#

lol yeah

hot solstice
#

Going some haste is just personal preference, if u feel like pressing buttons isn’t smooth enough…mastery makes sense too cause as said burst window matters and u already get 10% haste from in for the kill

cursive pike
#

who is the best warrior i can copy off of in armory

turbid ember
#

I saw someone say 21%, 14%, 14%, 30% and stuck with that

rancid granite
#

bajeera or w/e rocks

#

bahjeera?

turbid ember
cursive pike
#

nice thx

#

is there no crit honor gear? i just see haste or mastery

quick echo
#

I use murlok.io usually. It's great for seeing what the top% of players are doing but it won't explain much and it can change from week to week depending on what people get from vault etc.. so just keep that in mind

#

tons of honor crit gear. Thats why I came here actually lol. I was wondering if I had too much

#

you're at the honor vendor not the bloody token vendor right?

cursive pike
#

i dont see crit chest at honor

turbid ember
#

You looking at ALL gear at honor?

lucid walrus
#

there isn't one

quick echo
#

no crit chest

cursive pike
#

thatsss what i thought 🙂

quick echo
#

have to get from drakebreaker set for crit chest

cursive pike
#

was loosing my mind hehe

turbid ember
#

True, EVERY piece isn't gonna have crit

quick echo
#

legs and chest don't. everything else does I believe

turbid ember
#

Gotta get tier chest for crit

mint dagger
#

whats the best 3's comps?

elfin surge
quick echo
#

feral arms yeah?

elfin surge
#

thats what i play

quick echo
#

what would you say are your easy and hard matchups?

crude bane
#

wtf is that

#

evoker

quick echo
#

might be doing that comp myself.. and do you have disc healer?

elfin surge
#

anything without an rdruid is easy

full quiver
#

Eh i think shuffle is just as real as other pvp, I like having a strong character that can kill something rather than 10 minute games based on the healers mana and classes with setup dominate

elfin surge
#

Eh i think shuffle is just as real as other pvp, I like having a strong character that can kill something rather than 10 minute games based on the healers mana and classes with setup dominate

lucid walrus
#

Eh i think shuffle is just as real as other pvp, I like having a strong character that can kill something rather than 10 minute games based on the healers mana and classes with setup dominate

crude bane
#

Eh i think shuffle is just as real as other pvp, I like having a strong character that can kill something rather than 10 minute games based on the healers mana and classes with setup dominate

lean burrow
#

is it demon hunter's copypasta?

flat dome
#

I mean, it's going to be. Blizz is going to start balancing around it. Whether people want to admit it or not. 3s are going to slowly die off

onyx vale
#

Good old demon hunters pressing random buttons to 2k5 solo shuffle and wanting a glad mount for it

quick echo
#

just like the rest of the game?

onyx vale
#

Blizzard balancing things around pvp

#

Blizzard balancing things around solo shuffle

elfin surge
onyx vale
#

Smartest warrior player

elfin surge
crude bane
#

BOOMKIN IN TANK TIER

#

HAHAHAHAHAHA

quick carbon
#

I think arms is low key bussin rn

#

hope blizzard still thinks it’s b tier spec tho

crude bane
#

im feeling sad for them

flat dome
#

It's rough right now with the amount of damage being put out

lean burrow
#

fire/sub C tier

#

good

flat dome
#

Arms will be S tier with ignore pain

quick carbon
#

it’s probably going to be absolutely broken with ip

green wyvern
#

affli in S?

lean burrow
#

another season

#

of afflocks

#

except fury had much easier time with bloodrage

worn yoke
#

My understanding is that fatality is heavily nerfed in pvp and shouldn’t be taken. Is this correct?

elfin surge
lethal niche
#

man

#

i hate afliction warlocks

crude bane
#

2-4 same mmr same CR -60

#

k lol

#

how 3-3 is rate unchanged and 2-4 is -60

lucid walrus
#

just how mmr is

crude bane
#

4-2 is like +18

#

i have same MMR same CR

lucid walrus
#

like your mmr and cr are the same?

crude bane
#

yeah

lucid walrus
#

yeah that's the issue

crude bane
#

so i loose 60 but win 18

#

next step is best of 3 or wat

lucid walrus
#

huh?

#

mmr places you where it calculates your winrate will be 50%

#

the solution is literally to win more

crude bane
#

isnt the point of the game

#

winning

#

even LoL Game give more CR

thick reef
#

Lol is a pvp game
Wow pvp is a minigsme

blazing portal
#

Hello, sometimes when I get Execute proc, the shining highlight goes crazy and it many times larger than it normally is and I can't see half my bars - dont have any weakaura for Execute - anyone any idea what might be causing it? 😂

scarlet barn
cursive pike
#

which is the better secondary stat for arms... master or haste?

full quiver
#

guys when i win more than i lose i go up in CR, when i go even i don't gain any cr, and when i lose more than i win i go down in cr

#

what's going on here?

#

is shuffle broken?

#

@elfin surge let me know ur thoughts pls

crude bane
#

you mocking me

#

?

#

wanna fight bro

full quiver
#

i'd fight u

#

in game and irl

#

without hesitation

crude bane
#

i bench your squat bro

drifting ingot
#

is it worth replacing the crafted helmet for 2 set?

wheat jay
#

FITE ME BRUV

mystic barn
blazing portal
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(if you take the time to read it that's impressive 😂 I'm going off now burt will check later)

worn yoke
#

Have any of you tested shockwave in pvp?

lucid walrus
#

it's ass

sage raptor
#

It's a good micro cc for interrupts or whatever

#

Retards use it at the beginning of a cc chain and mess things up

proper sequoia
#

Yes if it was baseline but hardly worth the points?

drifting ingot
#

is it worth replacing the crafted helmet for 2 set?

sly furnace
#

Just do it:) catalyst Will be live in some weeks

dark sparrow
graceful ginkgo
#

is catalyst next week or the week after?

wanton sun
#

what are some good healers for arms in 2s? any better than the others? could you get to 1800 with mistweaver/arms?

wheat crane