big burst nerf idk about the sustain damage
#pvp
crude bane
nimble jasper
you dont need sustain
when you can 100-0 every min
most people overreact to first go anyway
nimble jasper
surprised you dont go higher
crude bane
some1 is dead
nimble jasper
my sustained was fine though
crude bane
im trying to learn
nimble jasper
idk i fucked around near end of beta on release tuning
nimble jasper
shit is dumb
kekw i love knocking bad monks off blades edge
in mirrors
jade lightning boop
being able to play xuens battlegreat and keefers gives you bonkers crit
not surprised they nerfed keefers
crimson yew
Getting back into my warrior as PVP primary, which of the speccs would you guys recommend to start off with?
elfin surge
Getting back into my warrior as PVP primary, which of the speccs would you guys ...
A R M S
crimson yew
oh yeah im going arms, i should have said which arms specc 😄 My bad
crimson yew
sigh
elfin surge
oh yeah im going arms, i should have said which arms specc 😄 My bad
the standard mortal strike/unhinged build
a few builds are posted in pins. Most are playing the spear unhinged build @crimson yew
crimson yew
Yeah i picked that one tbh 😛
mild thunder
a few builds are posted in pins. Most are playing the spear unhinged build <@215...
Imagine not playing the EP build 
dense rover
Completely fre4shly dinged, how do i gear fast for PvP? just ah?
vivid gale
rerolling fury -> arms for pvp. Can anyone give a quick tldr which pinned arms build is better for a noob in solo shuffle?
dense rover
tag me as well, just started arms
vivid gale
a few builds are posted in pins. Most are playing the spear unhinged build <@215...
@dense rover i just scrolled up a few lines and saw this lol. This might be our answer for now
dense rover
shit im blind, sry
vivid gale
me too lol
dense rover
did u do build 1?
vivid gale
yeah thats what im gonna start with
it has spear and unhinged which is what the guy mentioned
agile crow
does any combo of the two trinkets work for set?
queen peak
does any combo of the two trinkets work for set?
Yes
coral axle
Completely fre4shly dinged, how do i gear fast for PvP? just ah?
do epic BGs until you can buy the trinket 2 set, then do normal bgs
you can also buy the green set off the AH if u got spare gold but it only lasts a few hours
hot solstice
Any thought on demo fixes? Is actually nerf or buff?
torpid roost
consistent damage should be approximately the same, insane burst should be dead
long ridge
Good for arms 🙂
torpid roost
arms getting buffed at the same time the top specs get tamped down
mite b cool
hope it doesn't lead to a tremendous nerf
dense rover
do epic BGs until you can buy the trinket 2 set, then do normal bgs
trinket 2 set? i got shit weapon, do i prioritize that first?
coral axle
pvp trinkets have a crazy set bonus if u have 2 equipped
dense rover
So ill just buy the 2 honor trinkets, thjen honor wep?
dense rover
i bought atll the ah gear, got like only 10k gold left
gloomy river
4 hours of sholoshufle, not single one finshed 😄 best wow expansion ever
queen peak
4 hours of sholoshufle, not single one finshed 😄 best wow expansion ever
What rating? I have maybe had a couple of leavers on my Fury and Feral characters combined, but I'm only around 1700-1800
gloomy river
1500-2000 on diferent clases
crude bane
they press barrage then wat
gloomy river
couple leaves is what i had on couple games today, i got limited play time 😄
nimble jasper
its alot of dam if not stopped
arent you playing monk?
you legit grapple the dt rapid fire
crude bane
im on war atm
nimble jasper
and it cucks them hard
dense rover
what should be first conquest shit to buy?
near delta
what should be first conquest shit to buy?
Weapon
dense rover
okay daddy
elfin surge
okay daddy
@near delta
thick reef
Arms chest enchant is...?
lean burrow
Arms chest enchant is...?
...good
near delta
<@269360402800836613>
elfin surge
dark iron better
thick reef
I dont use double dps trink as humie
dense rover
how bad was my choice of going nelf arms warr?
pure hornet
Dark iron only 8 seconds
elfin surge
dark iron also counters major cds from ferals and assa rogues
near delta
You fireblood the assa rogues deathmark and he's totally fucked
elfin surge
nobody cares about a 10% wall fuck u we want damage
pure hornet
dark iron also counters major cds from ferals and assa rogues
And you think overall is better than human?
near delta
Also dark iron looks so much cooler
near delta
Yeah I think it might actually be a bit better tbh
nimble jasper
only having a 3min trinket for stuns sounds very sketchy
elfin surge
And you think overall is better than human?
Dark iron is the best race for war atm. Tbh a lot of the races are pretty close in strength and u can play whatever you want. Dark iron if u really want to min max
green wyvern
Crit dam bonus doesnt stack additively
pure hornet
One more question. How i unlock iron dwarf? I must make faction change from tauren to dwarf? And afther do quests to unlock dark iron??
nimble jasper
its a constant increase im just not sure if you’re going to be offensive
cuz they presuming you fireblood their go
nimble jasper
One more question. How i unlock iron dwarf? I must make faction change from tau...
finish the bfa campaign
and you can start the quests
psure its 7th legion rep
pure hornet
Dark iron is the best race for war atm. Tbh a lot of the races are pretty close ...
So u think i can stay on taureen? Wont the dark iron be much better?
Yeah but if i do quests i unlock alliance races too?
pure hornet
😂
dense rover
what stats do i prio on honor gear?
nimble jasper
yeah for the average player it doesnt matter
green wyvern
Orc > all
nimble jasper
orc is old news
elfin surge
I'm still playing orc because I like the way it looks
pure hornet
I am not average player. I am average player who thinks he is godlike player
nimble jasper
psure whats his face was playing nelf
in sl before the trinket shit
the fake swifty
elfin surge
races of the top arms warriors
mild thunder
most people are just orc from SL and longer
difference isnt big enough for everyone to reroll
pure hornet
I think i know you from someqhere. Mud, are you a top player?
mild thunder
pick whatever looks best, because ultimately that affects you a lot more than any racial bonus will
elfin surge
I think i know you from someqhere. Mud, are you a top player?
yea
pure hornet
Cant find you on internet
elfin surge
I think the best races for arms is Dark Iron & Gnome tbh
mild thunder
gnome warrior 
near delta
psure its 7th legion rep
You just need to do the war campaign quest and it can be on alliance or horde. Then you get the quest at the alliance embassy
flat dome
Gnome so you can hide amongst all the demo pets
full quiver
Dark iron is the best race for war atm. Tbh a lot of the races are pretty close ...
racist
pure hornet
😂
thick reef
I mean, at this rate Dark Iron is master race for Alliance lmao
pure hornet
Oh fkk … Mud is rank 1 …i am going in the other room to faint now
thick reef
lmao
elfin surge
mag just plays dh now
pure hornet
Cant belive it..
nimble jasper
cant say i blame him
thick reef
yeah the state of warrior atm is fucking terribad
pure hornet
A legend spoke to me. I can die happy now
elfin surge
every war is just hanging on to how overtuned spriest is currently
what they gunna do after sp nerfs tomorrow
thick reef
what they gunna do after sp nerfs tomorrow <:xeos:945501697847992341>
Suckstart a shotgun lmao
pure hornet
Why u play fury? Is it better for solo shufle?
thick reef
I play Arms now
mild thunder
cant wait to be giga S tier again
gonna be kinda lame to see all the fotm arms rerollers
but oh well
elfin surge
Why u play fury? Is it better for solo shufle?
i dont play much fury anymore
zenith marlin
fury players are still in SL S3
pure hornet
But? You play arms?
nimble jasper
they prob gonna wait till outlaw gets buffed
zenith marlin
ngl there is legit no reason to play fury anymore
nimble jasper
cuz community thinks that spec isnt good
thick reef
Arms > Fury, and even more so after 10.0.5
nimble jasper
for some reason
zenith marlin
Fury died when Raging Blow stopped charging dont @ me
mild thunder
ayckshually, arms is A tier 🤓
elfin surge
nah arms isnt a tier
mild thunder
4th best melee atm 🤓 🤓 🤓
mild thunder
nah there was some guy in here the other day calling people doomers and saying arms was a top melee
nimble jasper
anything sp is a good comp
thick reef
yeah a fucktard
zenith marlin
DH WW and every rogue spec disagrees kekw
elfin surge
shadow priest is pretty good...
torpid roost
nobody queueing PVP on the PTR (or queues are broken)
nimble jasper
why would you queue on the ptr
mild thunder
arms kitty cleave is the way of the future, brothers
elfin surge
why would you queue on the ptr
play with ignore pain
elfin surge
arms kitty cleave is the way of the future, brothers
tsg and kitty gunna be good
i got the qs lined up already
nimble jasper
ah yes
mild thunder
tsg is gonna be crazy
zenith marlin
bet IP will be on GCD
mild thunder
wasnt it the bajheera OP/IP macro
torpid roost
Ignore Pain is currently not on the GCD
mild thunder
never was
torpid roost
and yes reck and avatar were on the GCD at one point
hot solstice
so ignore pain is 50k absorb
torpid roost
didn't last terribly long
zenith marlin
Yes hamstring wasnt on GCD for a decade either
torpid roost
but it happened
hot solstice
nice as for 10 sec cd
zenith marlin
yet they changed that
mild thunder
so ignore pain is 50k absorb
roughly
hot solstice
even more with trinket and weapon prock
zenith marlin
i mean it wont stack past 2x so 😒
mild thunder
its probably bugged out with the prot version
zenith marlin
Shield Wall on arms when T^T
mild thunder
enraged regen on arms when
elfin surge
hot solstice
Dying to new vendetta with parry on 100 to 0 still a thing
unborn forge
Does Arms currently have a "go" macro? I imagine having one with warbreaker, avatar, blood fury and primary stat trinket would be useful? I am new to warrior so I am not sure...
mild thunder
warm portal
Don't type or talk about this
nimble jasper
free w
hot solstice
Does Arms currently have a "go" macro? I imagine having one with warbreaker, ava...
u need separate avatar for roots
elfin surge
gunna @wide pagoda
hot solstice
well miss old days when arms was rarely main targen on arena
nimble jasper
idk meme bracket
mild thunder
imagine if blizz pulled the same stunt they did with Long Arm of the Law and removed IP before 10.0.5 🤡
zenith marlin
defensive stance 2nd wind shield wall T^T
recklessness bloodbath warbanner avatar T^T
mild thunder
"We respect your desire to have a fun spec that doesn't get oneshot, but it doesn't currently fit our design goals for the spec"
torpid roost
IP has a range of approximately 40k to 67k it appears
hot solstice
defensive stance 2nd wind shield wall T^T
Heroic strike
onyx vale
imagine if blizzard removed colossus smash and said overpower was your burst now
nimble jasper
imagine if blizz pulled the same stunt they did with Long Arm of the Law and rem...
ret deserves nothing
/spit
onyx vale
nimble jasper
disgusting spec
mild thunder
imagine if blizzard removed colossus smash and said overpower was your burst now
would still be better than skullsplitter
onyx vale
oh wait they already did that with battlecry and colossus smash
elfin surge
onyx vale
they should reintroduce 100% dodge on blade dance
maybe you lose your cs, maybe you don't
who knows, it's the spice of pvp
onyx vale
I will not be silenced
zenith marlin
lmao
the blade dance dodge
Gosh who even thought that was balanced design
Like just the thought of it is OP
To act put it in the game xD
mild thunder
dh devs 
hot solstice
catalyst coming in 1 or 2 weeks?
mild thunder
fuck everything that isnt warrior
onyx vale
druids and paladins are super good in every game ever
onyx vale
but somehow druids and paladins in warcraft suck complete ass
mild thunder
but ret can be a fun spec if it were less zerg-oneshot and more actual well-designed spec
zenith marlin
idk why they made ret squishy outside bubble into burst
mild thunder
wod ret was fun
zenith marlin
when the whole spec sounds more like being tanky
onyx vale
dk is the juggernaut plate
warrior is the fast plate boy
which leaves being a little bitch to paladins
mild thunder
dk is weirdly mobile tho
nimble jasper
dk isnt mobile
mild thunder
not mobile mobile, but double freedoms and wraith walk
zenith marlin
ikr the slow resist
mild thunder
well they're not mobile but they're unslowable
and so many cc-escapes
stun? ibf
second stun? trinket
poly? ams
fear? lichborne
finally do stun them, and you get pet-stunned or some annoying shit
at least they dont have desecrated ground
onyx vale
its funny cuz blizzard taking so much shit from diablo to warcraft, you'd think druids and paladins would be as good as their diablo counterpart
but no, we got druids that can't use wolf form because they are too weak and wheelchair paladins
mild thunder
5th spec wolf form would be kinda cool
every class should be getting a new spec tbh
onyx vale
no
mild thunder
blademaster or sword + shield dps spec for warr
onyx vale
blizzard can't even balance they don't need to add 13 specs
in fact they should delete some specs
starting with both dh specs
mild thunder
would be better than new classes
onyx vale
then remove both evoker specs
then remove all leather specs and we got a pretty good game
onyx vale
ofc it's fun, they stole arms' fun
onyx vale
it has our bladestorm, it has mortal strike, it stole improved hamstring, it has two little charges and 1 big movement with dragon kick
ofc there's the smaller things like shockwave that we can't have anymore but they can
mild thunder
what is their bladestorm supposed to be?
onyx vale
disarm obviously
mystic barn
stun? ibf
second stun? trinket
poly? ams
fear? lichborne
you cant ams when cced
onyx vale
ofc the WW burst stops arms from having a mirror image burst like blademasters
mystic barn
lichborne also counters poly
mild thunder
you cant ams when cced
no, but you can pre-AMS
mystic barn
not just fear
mild thunder
ok?
mystic barn
well retype the list then
mild thunder
lmao chill out, bud
mystic barn
stun? ibf
second stun? trinket
poly? ams
fear? lichborne
all of these in the list, you can use while cced
cept ams
so
i expect you to put ams and then put every magic effect other than purge after it
get to work
mild thunder
you can also use most of them preemptively
mystic barn
you can yea
mild thunder
alright buddy
this is bait for sure
no one is actually this pedantically retarded
mystic barn
the way you listed it, seems like you are
rancid granite
no one is actually this pedantically retarded
onyx vale
they got the most iconic spell of blademaster
nimble jasper
dumb green monkey players
brazen rock
give me wind walk
nimble jasper
ook ook
onyx vale
its not a blademaster obviously, just like it's not a mountain king, it just could be in other circumstance
nimble jasper
if anything ww is where other classes should be
zenith marlin
give me bladestorm that can destory an entire city
nimble jasper
no class should be a tank and have high damage
zenith marlin
if BM from wc3 casted BS on trade district every one of those huts would be demolished kekw
rancid granite
TIL blademaster is an orc thing #forthealliancetho
mystic barn
is troma still fiending on prot warrior
onyx vale
prot warrior is dead
grand scaffold
no class should be a tank and have high damage
no class should be a glass cannon either
zenith marlin
i got blocked on the prot chat
grand scaffold
and arms is a glass cannon
onyx vale
ofc classes should be glass canons
zenith marlin
they do be serious about blocking
grand scaffold
ofc classes should be glass canons
🤨
onyx vale
mage and rogue should be, for starter
onyx vale
ofc it doesnt help when rogue has more defensive cds than any dps in the game
nimble jasper
no class should be a glass cannon either
glass cannon is fine
mystic barn
armor is a meme in pvp
onyx vale
armour is a meme in pve too if you aren't a tank
onyx vale
rogues and dh are tankier than all the other classes
mystic barn
bc magic isnt physical dam
nimble jasper
people arguing wearing a piece of metal vs a piece of leather
zenith marlin
well there is no argument
nimble jasper
protects any different from an nuclear bomb
onyx vale
in a world of magic
nimble jasper
from warlocks
zenith marlin
well buddy guess what they make you wear when you go for an xray
mystic barn
huh
zenith marlin
PLATE FKN ARMOR
mystic barn
are we talking about the same thing mich
rancid granite
hand magic hand im glad somebody said it
zenith marlin
evidence that plate > leather vs nuclear stuff
onyx vale
warlocks in lore are so powerful they become demon themselves
thankfully our warlocks just summon dogs
nimble jasper
yeah and warriors basically useless unless they have a magic wep
mystic barn
and pitlords that consume plate classes
onyx vale
pitlord get one shot by grom
mystic barn
idk what a grom is
onyx vale
and gorehowl isn't that magical
zenith marlin
Idk any other class one shot a Pitlord that is said to be able to 1v1 the entire Nelf army
zenith marlin
Grom with that 50M Mortal Strike crit
so what if mages blink
Grom legit deadlifts over 10 tons in that cinematic
without good grip
mystic barn
no i have never been invested in any wow lore
grand scaffold
0_0
nimble jasper
psure in lore
zenith marlin
its not wow lore
grand scaffold
😂
zenith marlin
They died in the lore in a fight
any living warrior is by default better in combat
onyx vale
dk are more powerful yes
torpid roost
I was invested in warcraft lore back when like, warcraft3 was current
grand scaffold
bro
onyx vale
literally all good wow warriors are dead
zenith marlin
But dead so hard they couldnt get raised as undead
zenith marlin
Both grommash and varian basically turnt to dust
swift hornet
Why do so many people use drakebreaker for arms in arena? I thought the set effect only worked in world pvp
torpid roost
Saurfang fell to a plot armored mary sue backed by a fucking demigod
grand scaffold
Why do so many people use drakebreaker for arms in arena? I thought the set effe...
ilvl
still better than 411
onyx vale
saurfang was literally just an orc with no magic
grand scaffold
saurfang losing was so stupid
onyx vale
whose power was being 80 years old
swift hornet
Oh okay makes sense
grand scaffold
dumbest thing i ever laid my eyes on
onyx vale
he was lucky to survive as long as he did, sylvanas could have killed him with her bare hands
pure hornet
Mud why you have so huge haste on arms
rancid granite
rancid granite
that guy was a warrior right
onyx vale
saurfang became shit way before dying to sylvanas
mild thunder
plate classes shouldnt be glass cannons
shouldnt be a glass cannon
but in that case we shouldnt do very high damage
onyx vale
varian was a warrior yes, he also made everyone around him lose their brain to make him look good
lean mason
What are those slappy hands DKs called?
grand scaffold
What are those slappy hands DKs called?
abomination limb
lean mason
Honestly it's preety cool
onyx vale
with his genius strategy of " insulting the orc so he just leaves his fort " to teach tyrande how to fight
lean mason
Not gonna cap
onyx vale
cuz apparently tyrande has never seen a fight in 10 000 years
anyway fuck varian, fuck saurfang
but most of all, fuck vol'jin
grand scaffold
what did varian do
onyx vale
he destroyed the story by existing
onyx vale
nobody gives a shit about tirion
grand scaffold
i give a shit about tirion
same
bro this guy saying the opposite of what im thinking
tirion was great
onyx vale
how
grand scaffold
how was he not
onyx vale
that's not how it works, what was great about him
mild thunder
he was sean motherfucking bean
onyx vale
he was random human paladin with a big light sword number 5436436734
grand scaffold
that's not how it works, what was great about him
what was wrong with him
grand scaffold
he was random human paladin with a big light sword number 5436436734
the light sword was cool af
onyx vale
give that light sword to literally anyone else, same character
mild thunder
any stormwind related dudes are barely even good guys
onyx vale
i got enough with turalyon, uther, arthas, now anduin
tirion wasn't related to stormwind, he came from lordaeron and wasn't even part of the alliance after helping eitrigg
mild thunder
yea exactly
which is why he's a gigachad
lordaeron >>>>>> stormwind
independence >>>>>> the alliance
onyx vale
you just seem to like him cuz you hate the alliance
mild thunder
i dont hate the alliance
its just got mostly boring storylines, or stories where they're more evil than anyone else
horde has always been more interesting
the defias storyline could've been awesome if it was done justice
but its just swept under the rug because the alliance are good guys
rancid granite
yeah horde are basically the monsters under the bed
thorn herald
so ignore pain is a 50k shield that splits 50% of the damage with you, does it take 75k damage to fully pop the shield since it splits the damage?
worthy fern
@thorn herald no
onyx vale
no it would take 100k damage
worthy fern
100k damage would be dealt as 50k to you and 50k to your IP
brazen rock
its not. get into pvp.
pure hornet
For me wow lore is Arthas
onyx vale
arthas is a bitch, the lich king tho? now that's cool
the lich king minus bolvar the bald fucker
quaint snow
they get buffed
quaint snow
arms / ret
quaint snow
DH rechoice
south kestrel
Absolutely
tardy flame
Pre-sweep, charge + stun, spear, smash, avatar + blademaster's 🤌🏼
dense rover
waht is pre sweep?
tardy flame
Pre-cast sweeping strikes
dense rover
if i use mace, 2h sword or axe doesnt have anything to say? its not wep skill like in classic?
I see the 2h mace, axe, sword have different stats
maiden grove
does precasting sweeping do anything against a single target?
tardy flame
Nein, but I mostly play shuff and BGs, so there's almost always a second target to schweep
If you're going pure ST then you probably wouldn't run Blademaster's + Unhinged
dense rover
is there difference between the 2h weps?
i see they got diff stats, which one is best for arms?
tardy flame
Only the stats, otherwise basically the same. Arms loves crit, so the crit/vers one
dense rover
okay ty
tribal nimbus
what do i do in alterac valley to help my team when im super low ilvl
is tier active in arena
muted surge
Def towers
mystic barn
tier yes drakebreaker no
crude bane
when do you use BS as EP build ? cleaving outside of burst or dodging inc CC ?
you dont use in spear
?
tardy flame
Probs don't use in spear without Unhinged. Can be used for cleaving, dodging CC, or breaking roots depending on the matchup
I like to use it to immune the shadow priest volley's horrify, whatever that's called
gleaming cedar
do you macro odyns fury to recklessness?
zenith marlin
@ $5/lb Chicken breast is cheaper than whey powder ngl
dang varian was a cool king ngl
tardy flame
do you macro odyns fury to recklessness?
I wouldn't, but I do like to do Reck + trinket + Avatar + Roar
wheat jay
do you macro odyns fury to recklessness?
Avatar to recklesness
But that's also sub-optimal xD
opaque whale
does anyone know why this macro wouldnt be working /cast [@party1] Intervene
tardy flame
It is situationally excellent. Having all that shit go off immediately, with a single button press, is amazing burst
fair tide
man all these salty players getting mad their class is getting assblasted tomorrow
can't wait until they turn their sights on us
torpid roost
I do think the SP nerfs are a bit much
long ridge
lol sp are literally the top rated class
they clearly needed something and blizz always over does it
desert root
yea its kinda weird how hard they go on these classes when they do nerf them, seems a bit too much imo
spice hornet
I do think the SP nerfs are a bit much
sp is insane and needed this
stiff nexus
Is there a place that gives info on crafting recommendations for Arms?
coral axle
I was seeing the stats on SS and 3v3 and spriest is fucking nuts
top pvp spec in like everything except 2s rn
dusk mauve
When focusing on killing 1 target in 2v2s, what build does most dmg?
smoky anchor
I was seeing the stats on SS and 3v3 and spriest is fucking nuts
they do shittons of healing/damage and a lot of it is instant. also 50% ms
smoky anchor
I do think the SP nerfs are a bit much
it's a 13.75% nerf. pretty big. but their core gameplay elements are still there, they'll just be less oppressive with damage
proud breach
kill sp
coral axle
they will actually have to hard cast now
smoky anchor
tbh i'm really happy. cause i'll train an SP, see like 1 or 2 cast bars (usually a fakeout mind games) and that's it. then they still end with top damage.
actually crazy
coral axle
yeah they are great nerfs
smoky anchor
is there a way to make a weakaura that triggers if a spell is specifically casted on you
thinking of making it for spell reflecting hunt/cyclone/poly etc
torpid roost
sp is insane and needed this
SP insane yes, needed this much.... disagree
maybe I'm just bad at it but they seem pretty focusable
spice hornet
The spec did not have to hard cast other than a .5 sec mindgames protected by void volleys anyway
spice hornet
Just stood there and facetsnked with 15% Dr and rdruid/evoker broken hps
smoky anchor
like after disperse you really don't have shit to deal with a good melee
idk, i can be slamming a spriest asshole and the fear/horror/root makes it hard to keep up, also they have some kind of movement speed buff. surprisingly good at slowing down melee
side note is there any realistic way to stop demo damage? something too look out for?
all i know is my screen gets clusterfucked with shit so i just train em and pray
coral axle
actually just got my demo to 70 today, yeah there is a few things
biggest one is demonic tyrant, its some purple wrathguard lookin asshole who pumps insane casts and buffs team
u can cc it, kick it, line it
there is also fel obelisk little green shit on the ground, it gives the warlock and pets bloodlust
their 3 min cd is portal, it gets stronger the more hard casts they do during it
so if they portal and get 10 seconds of freecasting just run
a perfect portal is unhealable damage
smoky anchor
i feel like i should lvl my lock. they are the best caster by far, no?
lvl 50 at the moment
smoky anchor
well after tomorrow
coral axle
demo is getting nerfed too
so we'll see
I think lock is sick because it always has atleast one good spec
and the specs are all pretty cool
smoky anchor
yeah that's what i thought about mage
and they are effed right now in pvp
arcane can be pretty cracked i guess
coral axle
fair point, yeah even arcane isnt thaaat crazy
alright 175k ms
highest on a real player with pvp gear so far
coral axle
smoky anchor
it's crazy playing against an actually good dh
they can survive for so long if they just don't zugzug
coral axle
ah yeah shits crazy
there are so many bad DHs at high ratings
tho they are nerfing their insane DR tomorrow
bless up
mint osprey
Is 10.0.5 tomorrow?
Also I heard our MS is getting nerfed?
Overpower only stacks one time now?
coral axle
Is 10.0.5 tomorrow?
no, idk about the other stuff
teal light
He is talking about the PTR tree...they removed the 5% MS talent
I did not see the only one stack overpower like he is talking about.
smoky anchor
there is a talent that is 1 point that increases overpower dmg
new
maybe he's talking about that
mild thunder
Also I heard our MS is getting nerfed?
nope, nope and nope
dont know where you heard any of that
mild thunder
MS isnt getting nerfed
it was already buffed by 5% the other week to compensate for losing the talent
smoky anchor
so it's going to be 5% less in 10.0.5
that's pretty clearly a nerf
from the current status
mild thunder
sure, if you're looking at it from a right now perspective... but the week that we found out we were losing the talent, was the same week they sent through a 5% ms buff
smoky anchor
by your logic spriest isn't getting nerfed tomorrow
they're just going back to what they were
mild thunder
no...?
smoky anchor
yes the nerfs tomorrow are just to compensate for the dmg buff they got a couple weeks ago
so really, not a nerf
mild thunder
im sorry, you're too retarded to talk to
smoky anchor
k
mild thunder
Like the 5% buff we got to compensate, yea
barren crane
do u talent into EP if not unhinged?
proven maple
im sorry, you're too retarded to talk to
Hard Rs bro
smoky anchor
182k ms on this poor lock
right after a 137k execute
fury/dh/arms/affliction
poor guy didn't stand a chance
got to give him props for not leaving
coral axle
yeah thats pain
signal wasp
is arms back, or is fury still the meta?
smoky anchor
arms is probably better than fury right now but definitely a lot harder to play
and when 10.0.5 comes out later this month if they don't change anything from now it'll be really, really good
signal wasp
solid...guess i better stick to fury until 10.5 then 😉 coming from dh...need to learn 4 buttons instead of 3
smoky anchor
i think you should learn arms lol
signal wasp
well..its that or dk 🙂
full axle
I mean arms you have to know when to press certain buttons. You can’t just sharpen blade MS whenever
smoky anchor
well..its that or dk 🙂
dk is absolutely busted
as long as u don't ibf panic on first stun
signal wasp
hrrm...well im a long time M+ tank trying to learn to pvp this season...guess ill just have to decide if i enjoy blood or prot more and then swap to a dps
mild thunder
Hard Rs bro
I don’t think that’s what people mean when they talk about the hard R 
brazen rock
Hard Rs bro
whats the matter with hard Rs retard 
mystic barn
well..its that or dk 🙂
Unholy would feel a lot more rewarding atm
smoky anchor
hrrm...well im a long time M+ tank trying to learn to pvp this season...guess il...
prot is really good in m+
dk feels like dogshit to heal
weak swallow
its best to re-apply rend before skullsplitter right?
tardy flame
You can SkS a few globals after Rend - it doesn't have to be 100% fresh
I think the exact duration where it's better to refresh was posted at some point, but I can't remember
weak swallow
hm
deep wounds seems to do less dmg in pvp..
im gonna just try unhinged build for a while and see how i like that
tardy flame
Unhinged is super fun
weak swallow
ye i just didnt feel like i was hitting hard enough
but rend build seems even more eh
tardy flame
Avatar being off the GCD and giving you CC immunity from Bladestorm makes dodging CC with Bladestorm very easy
weak swallow
arms feels like it just plays best with spear
dragon roar just feels like a bloated bleed i dont need other than making my main bleeds do more
placid orbit
olive owl
are there any kicks in the game that people can trinket?
also are there any kicks that can be dispelled
weak swallow
from what i know kick does 1 of 2 things
nothing : cuz kick was used on gray cast / baited
something: kicked something (hopefully important)
quick carbon
why even kick, they can’t cast if they’re not alive
lean mason
Kick means like getting rid of a spell right?
quick carbon
are we going to complain about how rogues got warbreaker and sweeping strikes sharpen btw
Or did we already complain
spice hornet
Nah they’ve always been the superior version of warrior
quick carbon
10.0.5 is gonna change everything <:copium:839076283467431956>
ya until assassination rogues just become better arms warriors
with a spicy warbreaker sharpen aoe combo
quick carbon
god idk why they just didn’t give catalyst man
rich sedge
2 piece with unhinged+avatar storm talents and 45sec bladestorm is the easiest pump in shuffle
knotty tangle
Got hit for 120k ms in that combo
pearl prism
Hey guys just letting u all know i drink milk every day
mild thunder
being the only melee in an all-caster shuffle match 
pearl prism
yeah its as rough as it gets
I was trying to survive against MM and evoker last shuffle as only melee. It was disgusting
undone pumice
Was warr vs demo affli frost mage
truly depressing
cant wait to get back on thursday and play more solo shuffle
knotty tangle
Gonna play dh solo today.. See if i can get any achieve before nerfs lol
Did 4 shuffles and got to 1760
mild thunder
cant wait to get back on thursday and play more solo shuffle
nothing like chasing two locks and prevoker around the map
so fun
quasi lotus
Could be worse, could be the caster in all melee match on fucking ruins or black rook hold
Suppose at least everyone knows that kt each round in that
torpid roost
why the fuck is my fishing gear on after every arena game
also what addon do you guys use to track enemy CDs?
proper sequoia
Omnibar
quasi lotus
Omnibar for kicks and cc.
GladiusEx for the rest of their cds
Flyplatebuffs to give me a giant icon of what they have active
torpid roost
gooootcha, shit, I'll get all 3
as braindead as I can make my not being braindead, the better
ty
quasi lotus
They are all dogshit fresh out the box so you might want to watch some high rated player talk through ui or something
mystic barn
flyplate buffs isn’t updated + it has billions of lua errors + when you mess with it it crashes wow quite a bit
burnt pawn
is it intended for Crushing Blow to not proc Battle Trance?
sharp meteor
Oh, is it bugged again?
mild thunder
Probably got bugged with the RA redesign and it’s just never been tested
whole patio
hey whats the pvp gearing progression like? i have all honor gear and war mode
muted surge
Farm conquest
Buy gear
And get conq pieces from the vault
Use strife to upgrade war mode pieces
muted surge
Wep is your biggest dps increase
But generally it’s good to get it from the vault
Bcs expensive af
wheat jay
Arms
valid wave
Does sharpen unhinged still work? Does it work with ava on blademasters talent??
weak wedge
Think so
Just got rating after getting disconnected on round 6 with 4 wins
But if so, it's weird
Or I got lucky and someone else quit while I got DC 🤷♂️
dark sparrow
the conq cap always goes up by 700 now right?
crude bane
still dunno wat range to play here
SP LOCK boomkin
afflock chillest gameplay ever seen
also thinking about making DK
knotty tangle
Or I got lucky and someone else quit while I got DC 🤷♂️
If u dc in round 5 and they kill fast the round counts
crude bane
he almaos 1V3
i think i find my new range reroll
what the best profession to make some bucks
agile aspen
if you dont wanna cancel scan AH its probably gather between queues tbh
scarlet barn
https://gyazo.com/b61fb466c1ae3d32d99722497732ef05
grand scaffold
Omnibar for kicks and cc.
GladiusEx for the rest of their cds
Flyplatebuffs to g...
yo
does flyplatebuffs still work?
i was using it last expansion but it had quite a few bugs
crude bane
@scarlet barn even after the nerf im pretty sure dh will be the same sh1t
quasi lotus
i just ignore errors kek
pure hornet
grand scaffold
i just ignore errors kek
does the addon work well?
grand scaffold
I guess thats how you approach parenting too Bev
😂
pure hornet
😂
quasi lotus
does the addon work well?
yah well i only have the things i want to see on it
so I always see the shit above their heads ye
crude bane
ayo cervantes is farming trenacetate
grand scaffold
does it show new debuffs?
quasi lotus
just aadd them
grand scaffold
well i know
but does it know about the new debuffs since it hasnt been updated since 8.0.1
idk if im wording it right
quasi lotus
Ya
elfin surge
forest quest
How do yall deal with hunters as fury? undispellable root is killing me
uncut oasis
so what build is the best right now for solo shuffle as arms ?
forest quest
<:weird:718676218500874320>
hey Mud, u still sticking to fury?
lucid walrus
How do yall deal with hunters as fury? undispellable root is killing me
bloodrage probably
elfin surge
hey Mud, u still sticking to fury?
fury is dead
forest quest
fury is dead
thought so, went from 1.8k to 1.5k in solo shuffle the past few days
lethal shadow
Is arms that much better than fury?
wheat crane
uncut oasis
coming from fury, arms is quite overwhelming haha. Any recommendations for what build to use ?
forest quest
see pins @uncut oasis
uncut oasis
yeah but i still don't know which of these 3 to use
forest quest
Situational
I would say roar in fights were your target won't be hard to pin, spear if you're vs highly mobile classes
But tbh I haven't played arms so no idea
lucid walrus
yeah but i still don't know which of these 3 to use
honestly the most common build is the first one
uncut oasis
Yeah I'm going with the first one for now. Do you use Bladestorm only for cleave damage ?
lucid walrus
i would definitely think about making the recommended swaps at the bottom of that section; there hasn’t really been a game where i thought i’d wanna take unhinged/bladestorm proc over EP and reck
uncut oasis
It's a bit distracting that using avatar activates bladestorm cause you lose a lot of time doing single target damage right ?
lucid walrus
bladestorm’s useful for a lot of things beyond damage really
a lot of the time you will, yeah. it’s why the alternatives are listed. they feel pretty good
vestal quail
thought so, went from 1.8k to 1.5k in solo shuffle the past few days
I dropped 500cr this week on fury too, not sure what changed, maybe big boys playing alts. I climbed back up last night but it was actually hard as fuck. I’m now higher in 2s than I am in shuff on fury. 1932 2s and I’m too embarrassed to mention my shuff rating 😂
onyx hinge
i broke my finger and cant press my defensive as well and tanked
but also fury just doesnt feel as good this week
lucid walrus
fury feels like a spec that you quite literally just play around
vestal quail
Yea I think just bad luck, I also don’t leave games. I lost about 4 shuffs 1/6 or 2/6 and had to go 4/6 three times before I gained eating again
Rating
finite fox
What is the meta predictions for this week
vestal quail
Your mmr as well yea I saw
forest quest
As fury I just feel like I hit like a wet noodle
fickle forge
Prob just bad rotation
wheat jay
forest quest
I mean I'm running bloodthirst build so it's not like it's a hard rotation
queen peak
I finally played Arms last night after playing Fury and Feral, and man I thought Feral felt squishy but at least I could heal.
fickle forge
I mean I'm running bloodthirst build so it's not like it's a hard rotation
If you do low dmg, you're likely still fucking up some fundamentals
Slaughter and durability nerfs killed fury
Not dmg
red crag
Now screw all people that promoted leaving
Why would people do that?
scarlet barn
I dont have a slighest idea
fickle forge
Was the meta way to climb yeah
sage raptor
scarlet barn
I thought he meant why would people be this way
But yes it was due to not losing MMR after leaving
dark swift
should i learn arms for 2's with a resto? or stick fury?
pure hornet
So it changed.. ntill now it would be profitable to exit. Now you fuck up your mmr too
autumn saffron
should i learn arms for 2's with a resto? or stick fury?
Go arms for big crits
forest quest
Yeah fury hits like a wet noodle compared to arms
120k mortal strike -> 110k execute
pure hornet
Guyz can i get directions please for arms solo shufle talents?
zenith marlin
I have crit 263k on the pvp training dummy with MS
pure hornet
And gear
forest quest
Look at pins
zenith marlin
Somehow doesnt happen as easy in actual pvp
David its Vers > Crit
On pieaces without crit go haste
pure hornet
Look at pins
How?
forest quest
You click the pin icon in the top of disc
autumn saffron
If you are on phone, swipe left
mystic barn
I have crit 263k on the pvp training dummy with MS
iirc dummy doesn’t have verse like players
so it takes more damage
pure hornet
I meant tier seta or drakebreaker sets
mystic barn
naw
mystic barn
it was complained about a lot before
zenith marlin
well gotta be something more as well
cant just be 15% dmg reduc
how about armor?
pure hornet
You click the pin icon in the top of disc
Swiped left and still don see it
mystic barn
it also doesn’t pop dcds like player do
zenith marlin
ye
zenith marlin
And well I guess its harder to align the stars vs players
mystic barn
ye
elfin surge
where unity
mystic barn
u can wail on a dummy as long as you want but your uptime in pvp and getting everything off is mad scuffed compared to it
frank knoll
Yeah I remember hitting a 80k envenom on a dummy which has never happened in PvP for me
limber wagon
does "overkill" dmg from hitting absorbs shields with shatter not happen at all ?
pure hornet
Why is nelf better than human for arms pvp? Isnt double damage trinket op?
muted surge
Meld
pure hornet
How is meld better than raw damage
turbid ember
Because of set bonuses on trinkets. People used to take PVE trinkets into pvp and made them stupid good