need to check pvp acheviement
#pvp
crude bane
torpid roost
if you looked at my pvp achievements you'd think I was good, if you looked at my CR/MMR you'd think I was a turboshitter
smoky anchor
not gonna give name
torpid roost
reality is I'm high side of mediocre
smoky anchor
but he doesn't have duelist
mild thunder
He might not have duelist, but he does have 2500 š
crude bane
is that exist ?
torpid roost
k e k
I don't know, but probably not
or, if it does, it'd be exorbitantly expensive
crude bane
its just maldiva then playing alt kek
torpid roost
because the only way I can see it working is a really good player sitting in those god-awful queues for you
mild thunder
Looks like he just plays a lot of shuffle and has a decent WRā¦ only shocking thing about the ss is actually managing to get that many games
WR isnāt particularly good or bad
torpid roost
and not to shit on the guy
mild thunder
Itās just steady
torpid roost
but there's demo locks at 2950
so like
it's not like it's top .1%
especially stratified by spec
smoky anchor
lol you guys are insufferable
crude bane
we just point the fact that there is 1K Diff in 2 bracket with kinda same number of match
smoky anchor
ignoring the 1k diff in rating
mild thunder
Lol sorry we didnāt wanna shit on some random person with you
crude bane
its giga sus
fickle forge
Think the main pointer is that his shuffle and 3s is roughly 1k rating apart with almost same amount of games
mild thunder
I only shit on fury warriors in this discord
smoky anchor
no no i get it when i was a teen i liked to play devil's advocate as an edgy atheist too
crude bane
never seen a rogue with this diff mage war or any class expect dh ww
torpid roost
honestly, don't think that's too suspicious
mild thunder
no no i get it when i was a teen i liked to play devil's advocate as an edgy ath...
Okayā¦? Sounds like you need to step away from the computer, bud
torpid roost
I played with pve/shitter friends when I was high side of duelist, it's early season
not everybody spergs their 3v3 rating
especially not in the beginning
smoky anchor
.... sperg ?
mild thunder
Top tier players can play with shit players and still get rating
crude bane
above 2K2
mild thunder
Amazing
torpid roost
^
mild thunder
Top tier argument
fickle forge
Shuffle is just way more dmg oriented than 3s is
torpid roost
that 2950 lock probably could carry anyone with a pulse to 2k
mild thunder
I donāt think anyone ever claimed that the lock was a r1 glad lmao
mild thunder
Shuffle is just way more dmg oriented than 3s is
Exactly this
Kinda
Also how well you can deal with damage
torpid roost
that was going to be my followup argument
smoky anchor
Yes, solo is more dmg oriented, and he plays with shitter friends in group arena, and also, demo locks aren't even top tier! that's why his solo is 2500 and his rated 3s are 1500
crude bane
Shuffle is just way more dmg oriented than 3s is
thats the point of the screen i think
smoky anchor
yes yes
torpid roost
and I think locks are exceptionally well positioned for that
torpid roost
Yes, solo is more dmg oriented, and he plays with shitter friends in group arena...
I mean, what are you implying? Go on and spell it out for us.
mild thunder
Yes, solo is more dmg oriented, and he plays with shitter friends in group arena...
Im pretty sure the point we made was that there wasnāt anything surprising about the ss and it was weird to try and shit on random people in the discord
torpid roost
well, that's fine, it is an interesting anomaly
smoky anchor
It is surprising
crude bane
you rly took that seriously
crude bane
he was obv make a joke
torpid roost
the other... well, implications were what I took some issue with
mild thunder
Pretty sure my ratings are like 609 rating diff atm
crude bane
I/M/O
mild thunder
Must be because arms is OP in shuffle
smoky anchor
and you have >200 games in ranked 3s? and >200 in 2s?
mild thunder
Nope, I have like <100 games in all 3
torpid roost
well, mine is shifted on my priest kinda like that
crude bane
im doing better in 2S than solo
torpid roost
but I am literally playing with PVE friends
mild thunder
how you guy wining solo
Stop blaming things on OP classes and actually try to improve
torpid roost
well I'm disc so I don't win a lot solo
smoky anchor
try to kill in burst and then pillar hump all the zug zug retards who los their healer
just that alone wins a lot of rounds
torpid roost
try to kill in burst and then pillar hump all the zug zug retards who los their ...
dude
I knew this was a problem
but like
now that I'm healing people
holy SHIT
torpid roost
feral, targeting an arms warrior, has a demo lock and arms warrior just tunneling into his rectum, I'm coming out of CC, he's at 40%ish
mild thunder
I donāt think Iāve ever had a solo shuffle game ended on anyone elseās cross-cc
torpid roost
bomb heals into him
smoky anchor
<@589020053748449300> i didnt blame anything bro take your pill
ya but you complained so he had to tip his fedora at u and say ACKSHUALLY
torpid roost
dude DIVES behind a pillar when he's 35-40% and mortalstrucktofuck on a 100%hp target
mild thunder
He asked a question, I answered
mild thunder
Sitting in the disc complaining about how some classes are OP isnāt a good way to improve
mild thunder
I didnāt say you were
torpid roost
some classes are indeed OP. We have zero control over this, and this won't make us better.
smoky anchor
Sitting in the disc complaining about how some classes are OP isnāt a good way t...
bro that is literally all you do is complain about how strong other classes are
and about how bad war is right now
mild thunder
Where lmao
torpid roost
I've noticed that's slowed a lot now that we know we're getting a real def stance and IP back
mild thunder
Oh because I didnāt say arms is A tier? Youāre still upset about that?
crude bane
i legit asked how you win solo as warrior cause i cant carry any shit
crude bane
tunneling healer is bad in solo ?
smoky anchor
i wouldn't tunnel healer
torpid roost
usually tunneling healer is bad
mild thunder
Make sure you use your full utility as arms
torpid roost
you need to be peeling while dealing damage
mild thunder
9/10 warriors I see in shuffle donāt intervene, donāt rally, donāt fear, donāt disarm or anything
You should never let a round end without using your full kit
torpid roost
that's.... that's why I'm still upset with how low I am
mild thunder
Also running anything other than the EP build feels troll
Itās the only one that will let you kill targets on your own during burst
But thatās more subjective ig
torpid roost
I main the EP build but unhinged and BMT has their place
specifically no-pets classes being your target
mild thunder
I switch out of EP for real games but not shuffle
smoky anchor
specifically no-pets classes being your target
this never happens un less it's a lobby full of rogues/mages/warriors
i guess dh tooo
so many pets and minions everywhere
smoky anchor
my fury rating is a lot higher than arms
torpid roost
Rogue, mage, warrior, DH, feral, balance, all healers
like half the roster and most of them are viable kill targets
smoky anchor
pets are almost always by your target though
even if it's not that person that has a pet
torpid roost
yeah, both opponents have to be that group
mild thunder
like half the roster and most of them are viable kill targets
wait, why dont you think rogue or feral are viable kill targets?
crude bane
i just give last argument before going
what would grief a glad title in 3S and try hard solo
smoky anchor
the man loves waiting 1 hr+ per queue and also loves playing with shitter friends in 3s obv
crude bane
and why dont you use your free boost so you can have alt lock and play with shitty friend and try hard with your main
im sorry
there is no sens
smoky anchor
free boost?
torpid roost
wait, why dont you think rogue or feral are viable kill targets?
have more issues with balance druids and DHs actually
terse yacht
im more of a pver
so im going to be probably choosing pve gear
from vault
which weapon ?
terse yacht
fury
smoky anchor
polearm then
mild thunder
have more issues with balance druids and DHs actually
makes more sense... was gonna say rogue and feral are both fairly squishy imo
feral defs a good target if you can bully them into bear
muted surge
I wish arms would be above f tier
muted surge
Maybe arms can scratch demos then
cinder thorn
There's one that comes up sometimes where you kill bots with other players but it's not often available. It's part of the rotation
smoky anchor
someone tell me wtf evokerdoes
they fly around casting zero spells
but do tons of damage
lean burrow
dragonrage 2 min cd, they hit hard during that buff
tip the scales 2 min cd, next empowered spell is instant max level
always big fire breath with tip scales
kick disintegrate
shattering star is like 20 sec cd, makes their next disintegrate hit harder, kinda like essence break
smoky anchor
thx
mild thunder
I wish arms would be above f tier
ayckshually arms is A tier š¤
muted surge
Im stuck at 800 in ss, so it canāt be true
tender briar
What's the EP build?
muted surge
The EpiPen build, you are all time prepared to get a shot if you have an allergic reaction to pugs
tender briar
: D
kindred flame
hey fellas, is there any merit to taking warlords torment over blademasters torment for pvp? considering hte fact that it doenst feel like bladestorm does all that much dmg compared to having a buffed nomral rotation
mild thunder
hey fellas, is there any merit to taking warlords torment over blademasters torm...
depends on whether you're using unhinged or not
unhinged > blademasters
no unhinged > warlords
torpid roost
I usually go that direction, I use bmt if I anticipate being endlessly cced, and I run it with unhinged
But most times, most comps, WLT/EP build
knotty tangle
Is dh finally not god tier after nerfs?
mild thunder
just make sure if you use blademasters that you're popping avatar at the end of your burst opening
so spear > cs > avatar
torpid roost
DH will probably drop to B or C tier
mild thunder
DH will probably drop to B or C tier
and we'll be S 
torpid roost
From lord of S tier like they are now
mild thunder
after 3 long seasons... we have returned
torpid roost
As warrior chads should be
mild thunder
really hope if they do end up nerfing us (they probably will) its only damage-focused
torpid roost
Really i felt A tier on the PTR
knotty tangle
The only warr change was less reduction to deff stance no?
fickle forge
hey fellas, is there any merit to taking warlords torment over blademasters torm...
If you can really gain value out of cleave sweeped Unhinged, otherwise I always default WL
torpid roost
Like it wasn't an earth shattering difference, but, it was enough that I always felt durable
mild thunder
Really i felt A tier on the PTR
its not just us getting buffed - its every top spec getting nerfed at the same time
torpid roost
Aye
fickle forge
Besides UDK and feral ya know
torpid roost
Assass getting toned down, lock, dh
knotty tangle
Jungle gonna pump with sv i bet
mild thunder
Jungle gonna pump with sv i bet
doubt
mild thunder
idk why any feral would run something other than feral/sp or feral/warr
mild thunder
feral/warr is kitty
torpid roost
Meeeeyow
mild thunder
true
fickle forge
Cleave city
mild thunder
point being
jungle seems like one of their worst options atm
hunter specs all doodoo
knotty tangle
Gonna be fun with tier sets atleast
mild thunder
surely SP is still top tier after the nerfs
since its mostly their damage getting hit
and thats not even the issue
fickle forge
Maybe they'll die now with perma wall nerf
mild thunder
maybe
hard to see them falling out completely tho
it is 100% weird to not see uh nerfs tho
knotty tangle
Oh so when they nerf mindspike by 25% but buff it with 15 in pve
Numbers just looked really big lol
mild thunder
yea the sp changes are a mess lol
muted surge
On the Thema of SP, what do you do during their aoe zone which is still donāt know what it does
ebon sequoia
Which is considered better for pvp at the moment, arms or fury?
muted surge
When they spawn 3? Areas
slate tendon
any good pvp player fury ?
mild thunder
Which is considered better for pvp at the moment, arms or fury?
arms
knotty tangle
When they spawn 3? Areas
Walk out of it
muted surge
Im dead before I can :<
lilac rivet
Use jump as soon as you see them. If rouge sp combo, don't try to find rouge by wasting jump by push forward. Stay or jump at pillar if possible to avoid burst. Be calm and dont rush sp-combo and try to bait the burst out first
muted surge
Just gotta be faster, kk
lucid walrus
On the Thema of SP, what do you do during their aoe zone which is still donāt kn...
ideally youāre not in it but if youāre not leaving on that for whatever reason, bladestorm it imo
green wyvern
can't wait to tunnel sp all game come 10.0.5
it's gonna be glorious
destroying caster cucks
half sluice
best solo shuffle build for fury?
somber comet
Throughout all my years in WoW
I never understood comp names
Some make sense (KFC, Jungle, Turbo, etc)
But then some are like
"Acid Bath Panda stomp."
?????
"Ebola McCarthy Slammer Hammer"
nimble forge
ebola mccarthy slammer hammer ššš
feral heath
Some comps was just the name of the rank 1 team name that ran the setup. Back when we had arena teams
bright stream
think it works better with spriest/unholy/hpal cause of all the kids the dk makes
somber comet
Ah true.
What else...
(Without getting myself banned for being too edgy by Mwahi)
Popeyes Sandwich Cleave
2 Boomkins 1 Hpal/Priest
Chicken and then spicy or regular mayo.
Barbershop Cleave
2DK 1Hpriest
Cause the red-white swirl.
Oh the best
Elmer's Glue Cleave
3 DHs
Cause they think damage is everything
sage raptor
Did you eat Elmer's Glue when you posted this?
somber comet
No. I only eat elmer's paste 5head
I like the thicker consistency.
Actually it was the push pop ones.
knotty tangle
Love lumberjack cleave and man cleave
gleaming ibex
African turtle cleave
knotty tangle
Mongolian Crackhead Cleave is my personal favorite.
scarlet barn
Angry cat cleave 
grand scaffold
is dark iron dwarf regular dwarf or night elf better
warped warren
yuman
scarlet barn
I would say overall dark iron is better
scarlet barn
Nelf is more niche what you do with meld and normal dwarf gives you only physical Dr
scarlet barn
No problem
lusty moth
now tell us all the possible uses of meld in order from best to worst
grand scaffold
now tell us all the possible uses of meld in order from best to worst
only ones i can think of are interupting channel casts
like huge arcane missels
drain life during soul rot
drain soul
rest idk
use to be awesome vs maledict
can waste a destro locks cast time by meldiung last seonc
second*
lucid walrus
now tell us all the possible uses of meld in order from best to worst
thereās that one clip of a priest melding hoj in SL
iāve had a bolt melded before. not common but itās potent if you know what youāre doing
warped warren
no way!!
lucid walrus
?
cinder thorn
I would play other races I just don't like their appearance
Anything non human feels like a zoo to me
pliant falcon
My fav use of meld is waiting at a node for a rogue
cinder thorn
Does meld take you out of combat also btw
And, if you have any dots on you instantly get taken out right
pliant falcon
Seems to work like that yea
lucid walrus
yes and yes to my knowledge
the first one absolutely, itās why itās so potent for rogue
cinder thorn
Oh wow
pliant falcon
And for casters to drink
cinder thorn
Would be nice if they allowed people to choose a racial
So they pick appearance then choose a racial
So people can play what appeals to them and not what racial is best
pliant falcon
Lol, Tauren rogue
muted surge
In the end itās still an rpg
mystic barn
itās a great idea
so that people can play the race they want
and everyone can be dark iron dwarf racial for assass
steel trout
šÆ fuck racials
lucid walrus
i support this until a disarm racial is put in the game
at that point return it to race-locked racials
turbid ember
You guys don't like warstomp into poly?
sage raptor
If it's not race specific, then it's not a racial. Doesn't go deeper than that.
sage raptor
An equally bad idea
muted surge
Why
sage raptor
A 4th pvp talent for racials?
Also, people are giving racials wayyyyyyy more credit than the racials deserve.
I wish they were as strong as people are implying.
scarlet barn
They are definitely not a game breaker as they used to be in past
elfin surge
dusky parrot
My Grindset
scarlet barn
@fierce elm definitely does the same
dusky parrot
Everyone needs to do this
muted surge
Looks more like a dk than a warrior
grand scaffold
dark iron dwarf runs bitter immunity?
grand scaffold
so that people can play the race they want
they will never balance races
not today not in 100 years
fickle forge
What else...
Rate Scissor Cleave pls ty (2 feral + X)
grand scaffold
they would lose soo much money
grand scaffold
i mean racials will always be a thing
like panda sucks
dreanei isnt great
maghar orc sucks
zandalari troll sucks
many races are garbage
scarlet barn
On average races are balanced output wise
Situational balance though cant exist unless you want homogenous experience
raw summit
mystic barn
They are definitely not a game breaker as they used to be in past
if you actually pvped vs assass itās a night and day difference as dark iron than any other race
some are broken as fuck still
muted surge
Wish human was still broken
grand scaffold
so does anybody know if dark iron runs bitter immunity?
muted surge
Now that I finally have one :(
muted surge
so does anybody know if dark iron runs bitter immunity?
Still depends on enemies, double bleed remove is useful I guess
grand scaffold
against what?
scarlet barn
if you actually pvped vs assass itās a night and day difference as dark iron tha...
It was waaaaaaaaay worse pre 2016
Human domination
mystic barn
Iām well aware wow was even worse in 2016
scarlet barn
Wow is never gonna be what it used to be
scarlet barn
On subjective terms
grand scaffold
yeah
feral heath
It's the same as always. Do quest for rep, do arena for pvp, do raids for pve 
fierce elm
LIFT
sterile carbon
the harsher leaver penalties cant come soon enough
hot solstice
Do u realise that facials isnāt a problem and it probably wasnātā¦rogues do 5sec kidneys to everyone now and isnāt troublesome to take down someone in shorter stun
sterile carbon
so frustrating
fierce elm
Outlifting the world and slamming every chicken in sight
scarlet barn
Do u realise that facials isnāt a problem and it probably wasnātā¦rogues do 5sec ...
facials def arent problem
grand scaffold
Outlifting the world and slamming every chicken in sight
you broke 300kg yet?
last i heard from you, you were at 287
hot solstice
@scarlet barn Arguments why fixing racials now should be more important than fixing classes?
fickle forge
Wow is never gonna be what it used to be
Just as the founding master plan intended
hot solstice
I really thought it was sarcasm
grand scaffold
Just as the founding master plan intended
would you play bitter immunity with dark iron dwarf?
im running out of binds
-_-
fickle forge
would you play bitter immunity with dark iron dwarf?
I'd stick with the Chad human/orc option
grand scaffold
I'd stick with the Chad human/orc option
lmao
well if you were to play dark iron dwarf
would you play bitter immunity
fickle forge
You can yeah
Don't bring BI too often though
Not since they made it ineffective against bleeds
sage raptor
like panda sucks
Panda most certainly does not suck lol
Imagine calling a free CC that breaks combat bad š
sterile carbon
i have a macro for switching to a shield and popping shield block, then i macro an equip set on my overpower/MS to make sure i equip a 2hander again. However, it makes that horrible equipment switching noise every time i press OP/MS. is there a way to stop it
grand scaffold
Imagine calling a free CC that breaks combat bad š
it breaks combat?
sage raptor
Is shadowmeld also a cc?
grand scaffold
eh
full quiver
Tauren rogue is bis
sage raptor
Also stealth is for pussies
Tf you want stealth for? Suck dudes off in secret?
I don't stealth to display dominance
elfin surge
my name stat bug
sage raptor
Pirates don't stealth. They shoot stuff.
turbid ember
Can going against a mage rogue ever be a fun experience?
sage raptor
Hi stat bug
knotty tangle
Ur playing warrior with kidney
sage raptor
No. Warrior with gun.
knotty tangle
Can going against a mage rogue ever be a fun experience?
Never been more fun than rn.. Rogue mage is legit ass
Even i as 1600 xp rdruid fuck 3.5k xp rm
Nothing they can do
knotty tangle
It really is
Hvnt lost a single time vs rm
Only time i lost was mirror rogue mage
lethal kestrel
how do you know u face 3.5k xp players on your 1600 rating?
silent wedge
Anyone have a solo shuffle friendly fury build? sorry if this has been asked 78m times
turbid ember
Tell me the secret sauce
knotty tangle
I checkpvp
lethal kestrel
Anyone have a solo shuffle friendly fury build? sorry if this has been asked 78m...
I can send u mine and u can say what u think i think tis pretty nice for solo shuffl
silent wedge
Sure thing i've not played ranked pvp at all before this and fumbled my way to 1k rating and starting to feel like i should get a proper build and not just something i slapped together haha
lean burrow
how do you know u face 3.5k xp players on your 1600 rating?
they say "i'm 3.5k xp" when they load in
lethal kestrel
turbid ember
Why is rend recommended on arms as a non-skullsplitter build?
brazen rock
free dam, good in longer matches.
lean burrow
Why is rend recommended on arms as a non-skullsplitter build?
would you rather press slam or rend?
turbid ember
More MS pls
onyx vale
damn, do you think those 3k5 rogue mage would be willing to teach me
quasi lotus
no one says that
onyx vale
because 2k
knotty tangle
And lets not start unit discuss with murica freedom standard
onyx vale
no one says dudu
knotty tangle
Murica is more cursed than pre patch dh
onyx vale
what year is this, 2006?
anyway this discussion made me hungry, i'm off to look for 5 glasses of milk per football field to make a giraffe long chocolate cake
nimble jasper
im psure enchance is just illiterate
and rouge
rog is kind of an intentional meme
knotty tangle
Enchantment shaman
mystic barn
i used muds build and lost 30 rounds in a row
knotty tangle
Mud with fury build?
elfin surge
i removed qcp from btag and my life instantly improved
nimble jasper
find post with spelling: rouge
mystic barn
wat the fuk
knotty tangle
N=1?
onyx vale
rouge exists for some reason
mystic barn
onyx vale
but i'm pretty sure you made enchance sham up
elfin surge
elfin surge
dh players
nimble jasper
rouge is illiterate
knotty tangle
I used to say enchantment shaman
nimble jasper
same as people who spell queue as que
mystic barn
thats just short for queue
elfin surge
queu up
turbid ember
rouge is illiterate
Intentionally ironic?
nimble jasper
short for queue is q
lucid walrus
qu up
knotty tangle
Queueue
pearl prism
Wow was the first MMO
nimble jasper
q into illidanx-azralon
mystic barn
rip dekel
nimble jasper
with guild rank novato
elfin surge
ĆÆÅÅĆ®dƤƱgĆødx
mystic barn
but i'm pretty sure you made enchance sham up
naw its real
it bugs me as much as rouge
nimble jasper
i love me some azralon players
and getting stormbolted around pillars
cuz mf has 300ms
onyx vale
skill issue
elfin surge
š
mystic barn
but ive seen that commonly in pvp and raid
nimble jasper
the blinking around is real
knotty tangle
Think its mc bug?
nimble jasper
its real aids on primal council
elfin surge
warlock reported me last night for using a program in pvp
statbugging and now this?
onyx vale
i never get any ms problems on eu server, but I do get a flying russian from time to time
nimble jasper
cuz the circle spreads if you on them
nimble jasper
https://streamable.com/pyjznk
yeah had that happen on primal council
except it was half the raid
made circles extra memey
elfin surge
onyx vale
mog your sword
how did anyone in the history of humanity found this shit cool
the fucking ulduar tennis racket sword
elfin surge
thats a throwback
fr
lucid walrus
wincing at this
nimble jasper
was an ok wep
dont fw the tabard not matching
still beats the idiot garrosh cosplayers
maghar heritage and tusks
turbid ember
Try body type 2
onyx vale
that's what I did
mystic barn
female orc is bis
grand scaffold
female orc is bis
š¤¢
eager mortar
hey guys I made it to 1800 in SS as fury, only took 20 rounds
I don't know what people talking about fury needs buff
really strong, time to make AMA reddit post
reality
tawny river
anyway this discussion made me hungry, i'm off to look for 5 glasses of milk per...
lmao xD
flat dome
How the fuck do you have 1346 rounds played lmao
eager mortar
How the fuck do you have 1346 rounds played lmao
what do you mean, it's only 20 rounds
flat dome
what do you mean, it's only 20 rounds
For the season
green wyvern
you should post that on r/worldofpvp
eager mortar
For the season
I was memeing , all I do is Q for SS
flat dome
Like, that is 224 matches. If one were to assume each queue time was 10 minutes, that would be 37 hour of just sitting in queue
eager mortar
you should post that on r/worldofpvp
yeh be like
"Hey I guys I made it to 1800, if I can you can too ! AMA"
then all the comments towards how fury is tanky kek
warped warren
https://i.imgflip.com/76nitl.jpg
cringe fotm roller, get out
eager mortar
Like, that is 224 matches. If one were to assume each queue time was 10 minutes,...
more or less but the fact that queues can be longer than simply 10mins and up to 45mins too
eager mortar
cringe fotm roller, get out
what is fotm?
onyx vale
flavor of the moment
its like when every arms warrior rerolled fury in shadowlands
(but we don't talk about that here)
eager mortar
ah I mean you can't deny that that tier bonus + recent buffs makes arms like that
onyx vale
arms is better than fury yes
nimble jasper
onyx vale
120 couldnt have taken that long
eager mortar
every time I get close to 1800 I drop down to 1500 even 1300 then you are stuck with matches that even if you win 3-4 you still get 0 had 3 games on the raw like that
scarlet barn
flavor of the moment
Its more refered to as flavour of the month
nimble jasper
every time I get close to 1800 I drop down to 1500 even 1300 then you are stuck ...
dunno i stayed high mmr
entire time
muted surge
Do you even get something from 2.1?
eager mortar
dunno i stayed high mmr
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
mild smelt
Thx
sterile carbon
are DK's hard to play?
nimble jasper
depends on spec
playing unholy optimally is harder than fury
fury is like easiest melee though
eager mortar
I noticed almost nobody targets the DK, except for few times
grand scaffold
fury is like easiest melee though
what about dh?
nimble jasper
still more things you can do
nimble jasper
pre glimpsing/ more cc
sterile carbon
I noticed almost nobody targets the DK, except for few times
in SS people seem to ignore unholy DK then realise they pumped out like 2m+ damage in a round
knotty tangle
Dk is beefy af though
muted surge
Even with the ds nerf?
wheat crane
I dk i absolutely crush dk/dh if im alive
Most of the fotm dhs are atrocious to be fair
fickle forge
But have you ever just had your entire spellbook glimpsed or iframed with meta?
warm portal
9/10 times they do it accidentally
wheat crane
Like "why the fuck did you glimpse there? I didnt even press cds."
wheat crane
9/10 times they do it accidentally
100%
queen peak
I'm a PVP noob, mostly playing this season as Fury with Feral alt. How good is Ignore Pain coming back for Arms in 10.0.5? I think Arms is really fun but damn I feel like a paper towel
muted surge
Strong af
wheat crane
Arms > fury even right now
queen peak
I know damage is way better with Arms, I'm mostly referring to survivability
I just feel like a slight wind takes me to 50%
lean burrow
I'm a PVP noob, mostly playing this season as Fury with Feral alt. How good is I...
arms probably A tier next patch
at least A tier
wheat crane
if you like fury play it tho nothing wrong with it, i just dont think its very good atm
lean burrow
I just feel like a slight wind takes me to 50%
gotta use dstance when you can
and impending on cd
turbid ember
I don't use impending enough I think. I think of it as a defensive cd
queen peak
if you like fury play it tho nothing wrong with it, i just dont think its very g...
I dig Arms style though, I just hated how fragile I felt. I'll just roll Arms again and play better
lean burrow
I don't use impending enough I think. I think of it as a defensive cd
if you are like 80% hp, time to use impending
queen peak
and impending on cd
Thanks I definitely wasn't hitting that enough
fickle forge
Shadowlands is back
20/20 Dstance ane Condoom absorb šš
wheat jay
Well, dmg is there
Utility is there and some more
Defensives will be there
10/15 dstance too
zenith marlin
why do they cap conquest at 550
but there is stupid shit like crafted pvp gear and strife gear
do they want us geared fast or slow
queen peak
I can't look it up now since my job as game sites blocked, but what is Ignore Pain exactly? A cooldown to not take damage or just an ability
wheat jay
So everyone gets gear at the same pace basically
zenith marlin
what
wheat jay
They dont want people to grind first day then chill
They want boomers who work to have same gear as kids that don't
fickle forge
I can't look it up now since my job as game sites blocked, but what is Ignore Pa...
Shield
zenith marlin
they can just have CP cap at idk 900 and not have crafted maxout pvp gear and trophy of strife bs
queen peak
Was roughly 20% HP in SL
Cool thanks.
wheat jay
Different scaling for dps and tank tho
lean burrow
60k shield would get nerfed 100%
fickle forge
Is it?
lean burrow
cd i s like 12 sec
zenith marlin
its not shield
fickle forge
I mean it wasn't in SL
fickle forge
It's a shield fam
zenith marlin
tbf its better than a straight up shield ngl
wheat jay
Its a shield that absorbs 50% of the dmg
fickle forge
What lol
wheat jay
Is it not?
zenith marlin
50% absorb rly smooths it out
muted surge
Itās a % shield, why would it scale different
lean burrow
50% shield, but does it matter?
zenith marlin
id rather have a big 50% than a smaller 100%
lean burrow
it's still extra hp
lean burrow
it's almost never gonna deplete on its own, it gets used up
fickle forge
It absorbs X value, like every shield
wheat jay
Yes
fickle forge
Just consider any regular shield a 100% wall for X amount šš
wheat jay
Its not a 100% wall for x amount tho
lean burrow
shield of vengeance 100% wall
wheat crane
They want boomers who work to have same gear as kids that don't
im a fucking millenial ty
lean burrow
best ability
wheat jay
im a fucking millenial ty
Shut up
wheat crane
keep that boomer shit outta here
wheat crane
wife n kids too
wheat jay
Ye so you're old
zenith marlin
im 25 with wife and a banker
lean burrow
im 25 with wife and a banker
you got banker?
wheat crane
wanna push a mortgage through for me? low rate plz
zenith marlin
whats ur cerdit score
wheat crane
over 700, like 730 i think?
zenith marlin
city of the property?
tbf that's doxx ill use avg
idk u can probs get 6-7% if its commercial property I guess
wheat crane
glen head ny
zenith marlin
for 5-10 yrs refinance that is
wheat crane
i think hold on, i bought it at auction i dont even know the town just the school district near my current home
yea glen head
zenith marlin
nice no school = no school taxes
hell yeah brother
no hospital = no hospital taxes
wheat crane
nah its residential gonna be my primary residence, the school district is like #1 on long island so im swapping that
probably just rent my current
zenith marlin
compound your savings on more liquid assets until a lucky time in the market and buyout in cash
wheat crane
its personal property number 3 tho so i dk if im gonna get banged on this mortgage since i cant claim first time buyers lol
zenith marlin
or just rent forever
but renting forever can be bad / risky during retirement
also purchasing a new property at late age in life means u will be dead before the property fully depreciated
so idk i prefer having real estate exposure trough REITs if at all
wheat crane
oh no im buying the house cash from the bank using a line of credit loan
zenith marlin
wait not a mortgage?
wheat crane
im just gonna mortgage after to pay some of it back
zenith marlin
u pay phatt interest no
wheat crane
on the line yea like 8%
wheat crane
thus the mortgage
zenith marlin
i will likely be a rent slave for very long
wheat crane
its nice owning but its so much $$$
boiler breaks, on you
roof leak, on you
at least renting you make the landlord pay it
zenith marlin
I pay $1550 in rent, on 4% interest u can get 1550 monthly on 465k assets
wheat crane
i pray i get 4% lol
worthy fern
Just bought a car with 809 credit score >>> 6.4 percent interest lmao
Terrible time to buy something
wheat crane
i have plenty of assest as collateral but the banks been a little funny with rates lately
zenith marlin
also when u buy a property u still pay rent
It's just in forgone rent income you would otherwise get if you rented out your property
and I think agents charge some margin for the purchase
very risky business for me
perfect time to buy something in cash tho Teknyx š¦
no cash tho xd
coral axle
Covid was fucking blessed for interest rates, I bought a house at 3%
8% sounds like actual pain gl man
spice hornet
Yeah missed out on the near 0% rip
worthy fern
I bought house in 2019 so thatās a win but the car is def expensive
elfin surge
@spice hornet we good?
light granite
Rates will go back down eventually. I bought my first house near 6% years ago and I thought that was an amazing rate
spice hornet
@elfin surge we aight
light granite
My dads first house was over 15% back in the 70s
Playing alt Warrior. What is up w arms? Iām falling over in the arena. Feels like I need to stay Fury till patch
spice hornet
It dies
summer tiger
Covid was fucking blessed for interest rates, I bought a house at 3%
dafuq are you doing here, small world
coral axle
Playing retail like a fiend
summer tiger
Woah, yeah I kinda stopped the grind for a bit. Was getting too much, and being forced in to fury not fun.
We get ignore pain back soon though
coral axle
Yeah arms is gonna be cracked here soon fury stuck in the dumpster
light granite
So Iāve heard. Arms was always one of my favorite specs of all time
Charge and execute may be the 2 most fun button presses in the game
summer tiger
I just like sweeping strikes, and all the plays you can do with intervene/storm
teal willow
https://youtu.be/b1a8INBofdM PVP EVENT 5V5.
coral axle
I just like sweeping strikes, and all the plays you can do with intervene/storm
kinda surprised you dont play mage or rogue tbh, but yeah arms is fucking sick
coral axle
getting a socket and leech can still be pretty close
brazen night
I miss being able to reforge stats I dont like
summer tiger
kinda surprised you dont play mage or rogue tbh, but yeah arms is fucking sick
I mained rogue for like 6 years, it got boring.
cinder thorn
Any threat plates experts here?
cinder thorn
I mained rogue for like 6 years, it got boring.
And then you became a man and started warrior and now there isono going back
summer tiger
ngl if I had pre-legion sub I'd still play the shit out of it
blizz ruined rogue for me with outlaw and sub rework
wheat crane
Any threat plates experts here?
Depends what u need
cinder thorn
Depends what u need
I want it to change colour if someone is targeting me, do you know how to do that
coral axle
It would be like the threat colors in pve, idk how you enable them for pvp
stuck moss
is solo shuffle bugged or something? i just won 4/6 rounds and got 3 rating
cinder thorn
It would be like the threat colors in pve, idk how you enable them for pvp
Yes exactly that, if you figure it out pm me please bro
dense rover
Hello. I just dinged 70 and planning on getting into PvP. I know arms get some upcoming changes. Do I spec arms now, or fury now and wait for arms for the next patch?
coral axle
Yes exactly that, if you figure it out pm me please bro
I'm thinking ur best bet is to go ask on the plater or threat plates discord server, I know the plater one is pretty populated, idk about threat plates
cinder thorn
Oh do you know link for it
lean burrow
Hello. I just dinged 70 and planning on getting into PvP. I know arms get some u...
play what you like more
coral axle
Oh do you know link for it
Plater and details are made by the same dude so it's the same server, and thus pretty popular
cinder thorn
Oh same author as details?
coral axle
Yea
lean burrow
god amongst men
dense rover
play what you like more
I like arms
cinder thorn
But threat plates is different right
lean burrow
the dude who made omnibar + bigdebuffs is also god
dense rover
When is arms getting the buff? this wednesday?
coral axle
But threat plates is different right
Yeah but plater can do everything threat plates can do, it's just a bit harder to set up
lean burrow
When is arms getting the buff? this wednesday?
play arms then
coral axle
I like arms
Arms is better anyways, especially at higher levels of pvp. Fury is basically a pubstomper rn
dense rover
Im dogshit at pvp, only played classic wow
coral axle
Arms is harder but not by much, if you like arms play it
Then you get used to it before the big buffs hit
dense rover
Im having a blast leveling as arms, so ill go that
coral axle
I found out duel talent is good against dks
Wait does duel make their own pets do less damage to you?
dense rover
Any good arms warriors on youtube i can learn from?
cinder thorn
Wait does duel make their own pets do less damage to you?
Not if they target you
coral axle
ok I thought so, that would be crazy
lean burrow
Wait does duel make their own pets do less damage to you?
no, but when your entire team gets caught in abom limb (as usual in shuffle) popping duel on dk saves defensives for your team
coral axle
yeah makes sense, seems good against all the big zug melee cleavers
sterile carbon
Can't decide on a PvP alt. tempted by DK, lock, ret pala
nimble jasper
Any good arms warriors on youtube i can learn from?
no watch twitch streams
coral axle
Can't decide on a PvP alt. tempted by DK, lock, ret pala
lock is sick if u like casters, and has 3 specs to choose from so one is always good
dense rover
no watch twitch streams
anyone to follow there?
nimble jasper
@elfin surge best prot player
magnus is also good
dunno how many of the players in the faq still play
sterile carbon
lock is sick if u like casters, and has 3 specs to choose from so one is always ...
They seem pretty strong, just not a massive fan of dot style gameplay
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> best prot player
shut up
nimble jasper
maldiva said
cloud said only bad players die to tyrant
zenith marlin
Spris die fkn ez
nimble jasper
š
zenith marlin
we almost have 100% uptime on them
arcane mage is more tanky than Spri imo
vs us
elfin surge
cloud said only bad players die to tyrant
cloud also win trades
and gets banned š
elfin surge
ššš
zenith marlin
i dont even know who they are
elfin surge
i actually like maldiva a lot
elfin surge
vanguards is prob the best ret
coral axle
I was looking at the ret leaderboards and vanguard is #1 and #2 in solo shuffle rn
elfin surge
rex is good
coral axle
by a lot
zenith marlin
the only player ik that matters is Xaryu
coral axle
im convinced ret isnt actually that bad after the buffs tomorrow
zenith marlin
i mean
nimble jasper
hes prob the only long time ret
nimble jasper
all the others just came out of the woodwork with retwar
coral axle
and a 15% buff to their bomb, and lower cd on their wall
elfin surge
a lot of the rets were nobody before shadowlands. Including most warriors (me)
zenith marlin
all u do is enable ur partner in arenas
elfin surge
zenith marlin
ngl sub and arms cant be too bad
nimble jasper
idk eu got some real freaky comps
zenith marlin
our dmg window fits perfectly in smoke
nimble jasper
like those french guys who played sub ww
zenith marlin
- they cant exit smoke
elfin surge
we got saul qn enh ww
zenith marlin
popping off to a stunned target in shadow sounds like a wetdream
nimble jasper
tho they also got some real scummy shit like double outlaw rdru
elfin surge
tho they also got some real scummy shit like double outlaw rdru
tbf we did too
nimble jasper
psure they played sub outlaw rdru first
sterile carbon
our dmg window fits perfectly in smoke
Play 2s with rogue and basically what we do. Build up to a spear > smoke bomb on top and then cc healer when they shit themselves and try and run in.
nimble jasper
howton kind of a freak tbh
zenith marlin
lol
zenith marlin
tbf running in just causes even more demise
nimble jasper
then he memes sub is bad spec
zenith marlin
damn there is act very lil counterplay t othat
nimble jasper
and proceeds to 100-0 someone
zenith marlin
guys I had a meaningful exchange with my dad over whatsapp
caught up about life
very happy
coral axle
how ez is afflock
think its pretty hard to do well with, since they have to hard cast a lot and only have ~1 school
nimble jasper
all the melee real good
sterile carbon
war rogue 2s sounds bad
There's a ceiling to it but it's fun up until that point
crude bane
seems like they do 0 damage
knotty tangle
Try ww
nimble jasper
maybe if asbur is still piloting accs
crude bane
already did @knotty tangle
zenith marlin
idk boomie does shit tons of dmg with cleave dots imo
zenith marlin
but convoke aint shit anyore
crude bane
timing*
but nerf tomorow so ill see im strugling to climb now
i just want to press starfall and cleave kekw
nimble jasper
that nerf is literally fine