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dense rover
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Is it arms people go? is that the "meta"?

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back in classic pservers, there was a lot of stance dancing, is that needed now?

undone pumice
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as fury your mainly just aim to get as much uptime on your target and enrage buff as possible and press bloodthirst and rampage and burst when it seems good

distant bane
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feels fucking impossible to climb out if 1100rating

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i stand next to healer

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healer jerking off

undone pumice
quasi wagon
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PVP Talent Duel noticed it's not on the pin, possibly handy for 2v2 ?

undone pumice
dense rover
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Thanks

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How would oyu say warriors are in terms of how good they are compared to spriest?

undone pumice
undone pumice
dense rover
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Still after the nerfs?

quasi wagon
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wasn't a dig o/ just a question

undone pumice
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arms are currently mid-high tier melees, after buffs most likely top tier

undone pumice
grand scaffold
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whats the best build atm

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for arms

undone pumice
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pins

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have 3

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good ones

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spear easiest go that

agile aspen
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duel pointless because you're always the target critcake

undone pumice
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ye

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u want to run duel if u will not be the target

dense rover
undone pumice
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so id say mainly if u are playing warr/sp/x

grand scaffold
undone pumice
undone pumice
quasi wagon
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running warr / healer in 2's not got a team for 3's yet

undone pumice
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if u think they will zug ur heal

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run duel

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like maybe double dps would do that

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not rm tho i think

quasi wagon
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double dps have sometimes dogpilled my friend but he's a holy priest, smart ones go for me i'll avoid duel then

undone pumice
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usually if i am on a team with a caster in solo i run duel or if the feeder of the lobby is on my team

quasi wagon
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even if it reduces the damage of 1 of them by 50% on me still not worth it

grand scaffold
agile aspen
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I don't think double dps would ever go h priest

undone pumice
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i think rend build running lots of haste will be good sustained dmg

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and skullsplitter is sort of a medoum of the spear burst and rend sustained dmg

wheat jay
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Smash big mortals

undone pumice
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yea fuck ferals

quasi wagon
undone pumice
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hpriest fly

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my beloved

river furnace
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Any tips vs dh/dk as warr/sp/sham in 3s? My SP just can't do anything and sham can't keep up healing

grand scaffold
undone pumice
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try to cleave them big time like ghey cleave you

river furnace
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I do, just must be unlucky with unhinged hitting pets, would you say go DH or DK?

undone pumice
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you have to play more like a support unit i think like protect ur sp very hard eith duel, iv, disarm, fear, spear, howl

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imo go dk

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he is shit vs phys

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but good vs magic

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but sp can prob just rip thru

graceful ginkgo
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nice changes to arms, ret warr 10.0.5 lets go

undone pumice
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ret warr my hated

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turbo my beloved

graceful ginkgo
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idk ret seems better than enha rn

river furnace
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Ye, think it's just like their go and then have ours

undone pumice
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ye but playing with windfury totem is like playing warrior on crack

grand scaffold
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is executioners precision good?

brazen rock
undone pumice
brazen rock
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but with SP being so prevalent, ret really flops

grand scaffold
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better than unhinged?

undone pumice
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it depends

graceful ginkgo
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SP nerfs seem significant tho

brazen rock
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they are, still gonna be prevalent though

undone pumice
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vs cleave go unhinged and blademasters torment

graceful ginkgo
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probably, ye

brazen rock
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or they'll all run back to lock idk

undone pumice
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vs not cleaves go executioner sprecision and warlords torment

brazen rock
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casters reroll every weekly patch anyways deadge

distant bane
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pretty good run

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deadge cant escape my charges

quasi wagon
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Is it ever worth delaying a MS in favor of getting 2x Overpower stacks?

brazen rock
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no

undone pumice
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not really

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unless setting up for a burst

torpid roost
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was gonna say I could see it being worth if you're settng up a big go

undone pumice
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u can stack op, sharpen, then do ur burst stuff then mortal.for a big bombaclatz strike

quasi wagon
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aye this is where I'm thinking mostly no

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but if you can line it up with sharpen and push them into execute range maybe

distant bane
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i do sharpen -> charge -> cc healer -> charge to another dude that were targetting -> colossus smash -> spear -> avatar + blood fury -> cc healer again -> bladestorm same guy

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mortal strikes as well whilst in the spear circle

undone pumice
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soynds good

distant bane
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does shattering throw break hunters shield?

undone pumice
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no

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not even md

distant bane
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fuckers

lean burrow
distant bane
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i stun with charge

lean burrow
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or you eat disarm on cs and cringe

undone pumice
distant bane
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i root*

undone pumice
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k?

brazen rock
undone pumice
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its about him being ccd so he can tpress defensives or disarms

quasi wagon
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bloodfurys a nice racial

brazen rock
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fireblood is better keks

distant bane
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hmm seems fear works the best

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8sec

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or storm bolt cuz short cd

undone pumice
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warstomp into spear

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bis

quasi wagon
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hot damn fireblood

undone pumice
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i think tauren is actually really cool

distant bane
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tauren is good for m+ as well

lean burrow
distant bane
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bis tank

lean burrow
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cons: you are tauren

undone pumice
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bonus crit dmg, stam, aoe 2s stun

distant bane
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1000lb cow

undone pumice
brazen rock
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dark iron actually.

undone pumice
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stfu

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stfu

brazen rock
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bleed clear op

undone pumice
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dont mention those

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do not mention dark iron dwarfs

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they are forbidden

brazen rock
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dwarf drip unmatched.

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lean burrow
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how's dark iron's damage after removing fully dotted deathmark + lock's dots?

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enough to oneshot?

undone pumice
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+2k str almost

lean burrow
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what's normal str

undone pumice
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like two badges unironically

brazen rock
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8-9k depending on gear for passive str

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honor badge is 1.1k str

lean burrow
brazen rock
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dark iron with 3x debuff cleared is 1800ish

lean burrow
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not that op

undone pumice
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  • 1.1k badge + 1.8k or so fireblood + sophic 1k str
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if that all pops off you pop off

lean burrow
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human for transmog then

undone pumice
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clobber people

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just imorph

lean burrow
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no

undone pumice
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personally i like imorphing into a quillboar

lean burrow
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people seeing my magnificent transmog is important

mystic barn
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that dwarf mog is f tier

undone pumice
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its not even a mog

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its just a set lol

undone pumice
mystic barn
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a set is a mog

agile aspen
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bring back bc tauren racial

grand scaffold
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what talent point can you remove from unhinged build to get rend

agile aspen
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8 yard melee, mace stun through pillar okayge

stuck mulch
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Bring back old arcane torrent

undone pumice
grand scaffold
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ok

brazen rock
mystic barn
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it is for me

brazen rock
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id say go touch grass but we're both playing the same 20yo game

grand scaffold
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or is unhinged usually better

mystic barn
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Lol

grand scaffold
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both seem fun

undone pumice
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unhinged is better in cleaveage

quasi wagon
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I like cleaveage

grand scaffold
grand scaffold
quasi wagon
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cough good ol beast cleave all the classics

grand scaffold
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is it the same build except no blademasters torment and no unhinged?

undone pumice
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just change unhinged for exe precision and blademasters torment for warlords torment

grand scaffold
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oh ok

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cool

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is insipiring presence good?

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seems bad

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on paper

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just 5%

undone pumice
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combo with m&c only then its good imo

grand scaffold
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ok

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im dropping that talent

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should i get fast footwork?

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or wild strikes x 1

undone pumice
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fast footwork is cool

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esp if enchanting leech over speed

grand scaffold
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blunt instruments better than unhinged?

undone pumice
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wtf

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not even the same talent node

grand scaffold
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oh shit

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mistype

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i meant

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blunt instruments or warbreaker

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idk how i mixed that up

undone pumice
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mainly pref

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but imo in 3s warbreaker slightly slightly better

zenith marlin
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ARMS

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i dont even know tf is blunt instruments

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Warbreaker slaps

undone pumice
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makes ur colossus smash do more dmg and last longer

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but not aoe

grand scaffold
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sweeping strikes tho

zenith marlin
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I once sweeped a 110k MS to a healer in spear xd

undone pumice
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for 2s warlorsde like u ndogo

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go blunt

zenith marlin
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While hitting the fury

grand scaffold
zenith marlin
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cuz warbreaker slaps

grand scaffold
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much appreciated

coral axle
distant bane
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u think its worth making another warrior char?

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1 for pvp vault

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and on my main i do pve

brazen rock
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with how easy gearing for pvp is now, sure

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earlier the better

distant bane
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since i only take pve loot from vault

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with conquest its gonna be slow

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we got bloody tokens though anyways

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i kinda regret spending tokens on the 2hander

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couldve bought a 421 gear piece cuz ill probably main arms for pvp

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also ~4000 solo shuffles for 250 honor level doesnt seem to bad XD

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thats like 2months

coral axle
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yeah I think its pretty common and a good idea to make 2 chars if u are hardcore enough

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tho honestly getting pvp capped for the week only takes a few hours, esp if u do rbgs for ur vault cap

undone pumice
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daily win rbg

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plus like 20 rounds of shuffle

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not even 20 games

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and ur vault is good i think

coral axle
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yupppp

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u can also just go thru and do a daily win in rbg/2s/3s/SS and its nearly done

thick reef
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wpvp crate is good too

undone pumice
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not for vault

coral axle
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just wish prot wasnt so useless as a flag carrier

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feels like im griefing my team when I carry on prot vs my dh

brazen rock
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so just play arms and press sharpen

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or even better dont play rbgs deadge

coral axle
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yeah thats what I do but the group I play with usually needs an FC

lean mason
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Rbgs is super sweaty

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So I honestly dont like it

coral axle
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depends who u play with tbh

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if you have a regular group of people who dont take it too seriously its fun

lean mason
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Oh big facts

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It's just that last time I did it. It was stressful for no reason

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Like at all

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Worst first impression ever of all time

coral axle
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that tracks, the rbg pug life is straight trash

lean mason
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Oh hell yea never pugging that shit again

cinder thorn
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Ignore pain is back boys

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PTR build

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Enjoy

blazing cedar
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hey anyone know what the best talents would be for 2s?

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arms

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low rating pvp just trying to do massive damage

thick reef
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Requires Warrior (Protection)

Don't you fucking do this to me

coral axle
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logging in as a rogue is ur best bet

cinder thorn
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Probably means defence stance or just from the old code

thick reef
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DH, apply massive AoE MS, then proceed to rape buttons

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bruh fury is so hilariously shit this sucks

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Ikr

distant bane
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and my rating didnt fucking go up

thick reef
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At least I didn't actually pay for my 2nd 2h with conq

coral axle
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tbh ur rating shouldnt move at all for 3-3

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50% winrate means ur at the mmr ur supposed to be

thick reef
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I'll probably end up swapping to Arms copium

coral axle
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yeah I got a second wep from vault so kinda salty about fury

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but arms is more fun anyways

distant bane
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u can always switch up

thick reef
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Until you get disarmed and fucked

distant bane
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when ur bored

coral axle
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yeah I've been liking fury for the sparks of life quest and stuff

distant bane
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ive been getting better at pvp so far

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kinda liking it

coral axle
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just freight training thru an endless legion of pve geared players

lean mason
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^

thick reef
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PvE players get the bullet lmao

steel hawk
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When upgrading from honor gear to conq (fury), is off hand weapon the second purchase?

distant bane
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yes

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but

thick reef
distant bane
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high iq would be buy 424 conquest one

thick reef
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But Arms is just better

distant bane
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and get 421 with bloody tokens

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and storm sigils

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and spend rest on armor/trinks

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conquest

steel hawk
coral axle
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IMO dont think its the right call to buy a second conq wep right now, having a blue offhand is fine and u will save big if u get it from the vault(or go arms)

thick reef
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Yeah, honestly just put off your 2h unless you get a lucky vault roll

cinder thorn
distant bane
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pretty much buy this with bloody tokens

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800

thick reef
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Then buy the purple one

distant bane
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then u can exchange it for this weapon and 12storm sigils

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u can get 8 per week

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421

thick reef
distant bane
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sorry havent slept for 24h+ hrs now

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lmao

thick reef
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Then fuck off and sleep God damn

teal light
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14 Trophies of Strife not Storm Sigils unless there is a conversion vendor I don't know about

distant bane
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nah

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need mmr

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i had so many coffees and nicotine

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im jittery af

teal light
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But yes getting the world pvp epc weapon is very solid for fury 2h oh

distant bane
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ill probably just buy gear pieces next week

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will main arms

coral axle
teal light
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I messed and bought prot pieces week one of season...doh

coral axle
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not all strife items are created equal, I go off this chart to get better value

distant bane
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thats what im running atm

teal light
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I'll be getting my first epic weapon for arms this next week

distant bane
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pretty shit stats

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oh its not scaled yet

coral axle
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having less than 30% vers is pretty sketchy

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esp if ur playing arms

distant bane
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nah it gets to 24%

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in pvp

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just a couple upgrades and ill be 30

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im running 2set as well

teal light
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You playing bleed build till you can swap out the haste pieces?

distant bane
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hmm i should probably switch those 402 shoulders]

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those execute sounds are making me wet

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as an arms player

grand scaffold
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with unhinged build

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and potentially bleed build

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haste or mastery

lean mason
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79 games and 39 wins

distant bane
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whats ur score?

lean mason
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1349

distant bane
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hmm

lean mason
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it was 1500

distant bane
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seems like i just need to play more

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i only played 17 so far

lean mason
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Yee

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Honestly just play more

distant bane
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84played 44wins

lean mason
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You'll get there

distant bane
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so im over 50%

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but im 1k on fury and 1k on arms

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was 1150

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on fury but then got pissed switched to arms

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and it seems more easy to play once i got the hang of it

lean mason
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Also pray that your team backs you up

distant bane
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had good 3 last runs

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5w / 4w / 5w

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3w this one

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solid rounds too

lean mason
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Yee then you get like 5+ lol

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I have those too

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I was praying that some 1.8 dude come to my match so I could at least get some points

dense rover
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How would you guys after the nerfs consider unholy dk vs warrior (arms as i ubderstand is going to be the go to spec)?

grand scaffold
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so would you guys run haste or mastery after crit for unhinged

thick reef
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Does arms want the crit or mastery 2h? Ideally

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Crit right

coral axle
undone pumice
thick reef
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Alright, I have to say it for the meme, is the Frenzied Flurry buff actually going to make SMF "viable"?

undone pumice
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no

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smf bad

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always

empty sonnet
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You guys enchanting leech or speed?

river furnace
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When do you guys take warlords over blademaster?

empty sonnet
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For fury 🙂

undone pumice
thick reef
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Speed

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I already have Leech from talent & my class mechanics

grand scaffold
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after crit whats the best stat

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for unhinged

empty sonnet
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Ty

undone pumice
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haste$

grand scaffold
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ok

thick reef
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I want to be up someone's ass more as a War

grand scaffold
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and for bleeds?

thick reef
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Wriggle up there

undone pumice
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mastery for non skullsplitter

thick reef
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So basically warriors need a million conq points to play every spec 😅

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Nah

undone pumice
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spear crit>haste
rend crit=haste
sksp haste>crit

thick reef
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Ah ok

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So we avoid mast

undone pumice
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mast good too

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but preference

distant bane
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i need 550 more marks of honor

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shouldnt take long i guess

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literally got like 70 today

empty sonnet
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For what?

distant bane
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all pvp glad sets

empty sonnet
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Ah

distant bane
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to my collection

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glad/combatant

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and a few mounts

mystic barn
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gonna need a few more marks if you want the elite weapons for mog

distant bane
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yeah will grind those out anyways

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i need 4000games for lvl250

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thats like 5k marks

grand scaffold
distant bane
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anyways

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should go beast mode with arms spec only after 4k solo shuffles lmao

mild venture
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Fury Warrior in Arena/RSS, what am I supposed to do when they decide to focus on me? Enraged Regeneration, and Bitter Immunity just seem to extend the time it takes for me to fall over. What do I do?

grand scaffold
distant bane
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yeah thats what ill need to go from lvl7 to 250

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~10k honor i guess per level

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thats 25marks per level + sometimes u get boxes

amber harness
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can I somehow hide warlock imps with plater?

thick reef
distant bane
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im learning quite fast, at first when its something new im braindead

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should pick up pvping rather quickly

thick reef
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Unironically doing more damage after your defensives is the gameplan

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You hit harder = more leeched life

mild venture
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That's what I had thought last night before wife aggro forced me off the computer. Maybe I'm supposed to just go hard and make it a race to zero.

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So should I save Recklessness and Avatar for that too?

thick reef
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I save it for when I see them blow their defensives

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Then I try to nail the kill

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Reck > Avatar > TRoar and just smash buttons until I see a dead character

mild venture
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It's funny, I got to like 1400 rating in RSS and then started thinking about what I was doing. Started losing. I guess my first instinct of just going full HAM was the right one.

thick reef
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Not always

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You don't actually want to zug zug the opener

mild venture
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Well, wait til they over extend first.

thick reef
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Exactly

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You have Leech + Bloodthirst/bath to keep you tied over until you can mash skulls

mild venture
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And that's why the Raging Blow/Crushing Blow build is not for PvP? More damage but no leech with BT on a cooldown.

thick reef
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Basically

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The strength of Fury is the brick shithouse mentality

mild venture
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Spent all my first conq. on a main hand weapon. So at least I didn't screw that up.

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1800 for a two-hander just feels harsh for Fury, needing two and all.

undone pumice
grand scaffold
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ty

undone pumice
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imo commiting to 1 thing is always better than half assing 2

grand scaffold
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as in

coral axle
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I don't remember how I did it exactly but u can set plater to show totems and real pets but not all the bullshit demo pets

coral axle
distant bane
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lol

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dh does big dam

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but falls like a fly

coral axle
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Ye they can def die if they waste blur and don't have meta up

chilly token
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Is ignore pain coming this reset or just the d stance buff?

grand scaffold
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idk tho

grand scaffold
coral axle
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Just dstance I think

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Big stuff like new spells is usually in patches

scarlet barn
chilly token
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Got ya thank you all

scarlet barn
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Not for reset

undone pumice
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skullsplitter is a weird medium between bursty spear build and rot rend build

grand scaffold
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larosx plays rend build right?

brazen rock
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kinda big sad mm is losing double tap

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was excited to play arms/mm with a friend

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he got giga sad and rerolled SP, now with SP nerfs hes actually gone silent and hasn't logged in since keks

thick reef
chilly token
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Sounds like he will just go to the next op thing lol

amber harness
grand scaffold
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that nerf is stupid af

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its not a good change

coral axle
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Minions are a seperate thing

wheat crane
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Gets nothing but buffs ever

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Its basically a ranged spec anyway

brazen rock
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flops like mm does 0 dam

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atleast mm can play in africa

wheat crane
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It was like what s++++ tier in SL and noone played it still lol

dense rover
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Looking to start melee in dragonflighjt and it is between arms and unholy DK, how is it looking?

wheat crane
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Both are good

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Just pick your flavor

scarlet barn
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Arms is on way to become really good

wheat crane
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Big mortal strikes or dots

brazen rock
dense rover
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What is the difference in playstyle?

brazen rock
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also its a fairly punishing spec if you misplay

wheat crane
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True

brazen rock
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@wheat jay surv good with buffs inc or still dog?

wheat crane
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I dk how to answer that

dense rover
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arms is pump and dump?

wheat crane
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Kinda

dense rover
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dk is more like dots or?

wheat crane
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Arms is big dmg on setups on 1 button

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Dks like spread rot summon pets spread disease

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Theyre both really good tho

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You wont make a bad choice between them

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Well arms WILL be great

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Dks already great

dense rover
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Do we know when 10.5 whena rms good is coming?

brazen rock
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1-3 weeks

distant bane
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getting closer to 1200score

smoky anchor
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Estimated January

wheat jay
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Still trash

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Needs like 5 more 2% buffs and its gonna be great xD

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Spec doesn't do much for how punished you get if you fuck ANYTHING up

wheat crane
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Did it massively change from SL?

wheat jay
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Overall, not much

wheat crane
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Isnt it just spam bombs n random bullshit

wheat jay
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Lost a lot of survi

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And a shitton of dmg

smoky anchor
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Don't you run bmt with unhinged? So avatar will make you bladestorm for a long time ?_?

wheat jay
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Its not fury keks

wheat crane
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Lmfao true

wheat jay
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You can play like monkey, sure

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But it requires a bit of brain to not int yourself

wheat crane
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I swear end of sl was like 90% bomb build

wheat jay
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Ye

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It was

wheat crane
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I could also be losing my mind tho day 5 of covid and i still cant smell taste or hear out of my right ear

wheat jay
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And it was boring

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Now its super fun but its weak

hot solstice
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can someone explain why they buff evoker?

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dps one

wheat crane
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I did get some very light cardio in to get a sweat going so thats good

hot solstice
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because I have no clue why something doing 40k dps through arena should be buffed

dense rover
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Do we know that arms will be on par with unholy DK come the patch?

brazen rock
#

idk 10.0.5 i could prob afk hit pet and live through IP spam

grand scaffold
scarlet barn
#

None atm

grand scaffold
#

you arent playing the game?

scarlet barn
#

Not at this time, no.

grand scaffold
#

why

mystic barn
#

kiss

scarlet barn
#

Too busy to play regurarly so i stopped for now and will be back later

#

Only keeping with news

grand scaffold
grand scaffold
#

breh you never stop that shit too funny

wheat jay
#

No wonder you did

#

0 kill pressure

grand scaffold
#

is the bleed build in pins good?

wheat jay
#

And loses on damp rather than winning cuz you can't mitigate dmg as well as last expansion

grand scaffold
#

i see like 0 people running bloodborne

mystic barn
#

artji you should see the moron that says hunter is hard matchup for dk rn

wheat jay
#

Craven was broken, now without craven survi is floor pvp

wheat jay
#

No lube

scarlet barn
#

Artji still considered hunter main

mystic barn
#

I don’t think I’ve lost to any hunter classes yet

wheat jay
#

Ye cuz Hunter sucks ass now

mystic barn
#

Artji is a cope main

scarlet barn
#

Whole skyhold knows him as hunter

wheat jay
#

Ye xD

pearl sierra
#

fury is better for solo shuffle or is arms in a decent state there?

wheat jay
#

I used to be the highest critting warrior here

#

How low have I fallen sadge

grand scaffold
wheat crane
#

Executioner condemn crits for days

grand scaffold
#

i have fury in my name

#

fuck playing fury bruh

#

it sucks

wheat crane
#

Now hops on his fruity hunter and tickles his opponents

grand scaffold
#

0 dmg

#

just survivability

quasi wagon
#

Build 1: Spear Blademaster's Torment
What's the ideal opener on this for maximum burst?

wheat crane
#

Spear warbreaker avatar

#

Then bladestorm again i guess

#

Or fit an ms inbetween

distant bane
#

lol funny

#

killed eachother

#

and we lost 😦

#

wouldve been 5wins for me

#

love how everyones targetting me round1 then running away from me on the next rounds lmao

karmic snow
#

hey everyone can you tell me what im doing wrong? I'm butt at arms. this is my build
BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIpVSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENKJJwBoIRIBQSkAAAAAAAAQClkECAA

Im prioritizing instant executes, trying to keep 2x overpower buffs and using sharpen blade inside CS windows.
avatar has me spin to win so i've been using that offmortal strike during CS

#

oh, my character is marruc if you want to look it up (us)

grand scaffold
#

well i cant just tell you what you are doing wrong

#

are you on NA?

karmic snow
#

yeah, tichondrius

grand scaffold
#

ok

coral axle
grand scaffold
#

GUYS

#

DEFENSIVE STANCE

#

LOOK AT IT

#

15%

#

buff already went live?

rapid shore
#

20 in pvp ^^

coral axle
# grand scaffold GUYS

The buff is for damage dealt, not damage received. It's currently 10% in pve and 20% in pvp

#

As far as buffs go it's a pretty lame one lol

grand scaffold
#

wait

#

so im not gonna take 15% less dmg?

#

wtf

#

thats gay

coral axle
#

Nah it's still gonna be 10%

grand scaffold
#

yuck

#

they should make it 15% less dmg taken

#

thats fair

coral axle
#

I think it was on DF launch but they nerfed it

scarlet sorrel
#

No it was nerfed s3 shadowbored

scarlet barn
#

Pve version was nerfed recently

#

Pvp is like that since second half of SL

distant bane
#

finally hit combatant2

#

next up challenger

#

might be able to hit it today

#

if luck is on my side with the team placement lol

steel trout
#

keep it up dud

swift hornet
#

I'm having an issue setting up my macro for fury roar, can anyone let me know why Roar wouldn't be casting? #showtooltip Recklessness
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Rampage
/cast Thunderous Roar

fickle forge
#

Cause Rampage and Roar are on GCD

swift hornet
#

Oh gotcha, forgot I had ramp in there whoops, thanks!

weak swallow
#

fucking nasty

lean burrow
#

rebound bis talent in 0.5

distant bane
#

gotta get my 4set

#

before ignore pain

#

😄

#

how different is 1800mmr games?

#

compared to 1200

fickle forge
#

Think that requires experiencing it

distant bane
#

where can i preview the special mog set?

#

for tier

#

the thingie u get after killing ras on mythic/1800 pvp or 2500m+ ksh

fickle forge
#

Appearance tab

lean mason
#

I want a challenge

#

I know how to dodge fire. I 100% Crash bandicoot 3

#

ez pz

weak swallow
#

LMAO

#

crash 3 was the shit, best out of the original 3

lean mason
#

Of course lol

#

But no seriously fire mage is like

#

Chasing a dog that is on Speed

zenith marlin
#

kekw

#

entire game this DH chased the arcane mage

#

instead stick to the ele with me

slim knoll
#

Is there a macro for whirlwind when ms is on cooldown or how do you guys efficiently stay ontop of procs and cooldowns?

zenith marlin
#

wtf is whirlwind

#

why would anyone use whirlwind

slim knoll
#

doesn't it do more dam than slam?

karmic snow
#

gotta give a shoutout to @grand scaffold for taking an hour of their lives to help me with my arms issues. much appreciated

grand scaffold
#

😄

#

ty my guy

#

let me know if you need more help

#

im not busy

weak swallow
#

too many fkn shields

karmic snow
#

first arenas yesterday were painful lmao. woke up this morning ego in between my legs and you helped. i just went 5/1 haha. felt pretty good

zenith marlin
#

Imagine chasing mages in pvp

#

like literally no point

#

maybe quick swtiches to them when therei s opportunity

blazing cedar
#

hi new to arms and new to pvp anyone know what the best 2s talents are ?

full quiver
grand scaffold
#

a different part of africa

#

why?

full quiver
#

Why ndogo then

#

Isn't that in sudan

grand scaffold
#

what language is ndogo

full quiver
#

Tell me ur secrets

grand scaffold
#

swahili

#

find out what country swahili is from

zenith marlin
#

why tf

full quiver
grand scaffold
#

bro

#

Ndogo means small

#

i aint no ndogo people bruh

full quiver
#

I had a Kenyan buddy who spoke swahili

grand scaffold
#

🙂

full quiver
#

Went to school with him for like 8 years

#

Dude used to "borrow" everyone's shit

#

End of year had 6 laptop chargers and 9 copies of the algebra 2 text book

#

In his locker

iron slate
#

whats a good warrior spec for somebody just starting pvp for the first time?

full quiver
#

Lmao

#

Was an on going meme after freshman year

quasi lotus
coarse portal
#

SS is fun, but also suffering

quasi lotus
#

kek

grand scaffold
#

sounds kenyan to me

#

😂

mystic barn
#

Scoobz being racist ?

grand scaffold
#

its quite fun

grand scaffold
#

im kenyan he just kinda spitting facts

mystic barn
#

no, I’m hurt for you

grand scaffold
#

😂

iron slate
#

thanks for the advice

full quiver
#

I love the guy

#

It was hilarious

wheat jay
slim knoll
#

white suburban karen wants to be victim for you like jesus how sweet

mystic barn
#

Scooberz is a plague

scarlet barn
#

Scoobz in nutshell

zenith marlin
#

fk dis im unsubbing

#

better to focus on work

#

had time for 3 SS this week so far

#

lost em all

#

time to peace xd

weak swallow
#

more like

sterile carbon
#

whenn do the buffs with ignore pain and stuff get added?

weak swallow
#

time to queue up for another ss

#

amirite(nah)

weak swallow
sterile carbon
#

aight

brazen rock
#

1-3 weeks

sterile carbon
#

if they survive PTR i guess

coral axle
#

If they pull ignore pain at this point blizz is going to have some angry war mains in their lobby

cobalt crystal
#

Hey guys, is Arms looking to be the better spec for PvP again? If so, does anyone have a good build, and some tips to share?

grand scaffold
#

i like arms more

lucid walrus
#

it’ll be better. check pins for builds & whatnot

grand scaffold
#

because big dmg

cobalt crystal
#

Ah, thanks

teal willow
lean mason
#

What the hell is with the quality?

#

It's like something out of 2009 lol

crude bane
#

im pretty sure every time you have load screen it refresh Q time so you back to 0 and take another 10 min waiting

quasi wagon
#

@blazing cedar i'd recommend the Arms pinned Build 1: Spear Blademaster's Torment, an in two's so far i've found disarm seems to be taken consistently but don't take my word for it

thick reef
#

Hey does anyone know the requirements for the vicious sabertooth mount? Is it win 100 3v3s? Or is it 100 2v2s? I'm not sure how to get it?

iron fractal
#

Warriors are getting ignore pain back?

sweet swift
#

arms does as a talent

#

in next patch

iron fractal
#

Any source? Trying to find it.

sweet swift
#

you can log on to ptr, or if you don't feel like doing that it's up on the wowhead ptr talent calc

quasi wagon
#

Sudden Death procs as arms, do we weave then in-between mortal strike cd or just smash them out when they appear?

lean burrow
#

if you have warbreaker use it in burst

#

if not just use it

lucid walrus
#

winning 3s at 1800 will award more than 3s at 1400 for instance

#

for that reason i’m not certain there’s a round number of games that you have to play for it

iron fractal
#

Wow.. they're buffing both shadow and warlocks even more even though that's the most dominating casters already..

brazen rock
#

Shadow is getting nerfed you blind dingbat keks

lucid walrus
#

spriest damage is getting hit

#

someone in here worked it out to a 10% overall nerf i believe

iron fractal
#

Mind Blast damage increased by 15% (Shadow only).
Mind Flay damage increased by 15% (this includes Mind Flay: Insanity, but not the proc from Idol of C’Thun).
Mind Spike damage increased by 15%.
Void Torrent damage increased by 15%.
Devouring Plague damage increased by 15%.

#

For the class tuning on 10 january.

brazen rock
#

Look at pvp specific tuning

#

Christ

iron fractal
#

There are nicer ways to talk to people you know.

crude bane
#

they just put back SP From patch number 1

iron fractal
#

But I did find the pvp changes now.

#

Not much happening to warriors..

crude bane
#

anyone using classicFCT ?

ocean shore
#

Has rogue changed named to rog since last time i pvpd?

brazen rock
lucid walrus
autumn saffron
#

Is arms/disc a bad 2s comp or am I just bad?

brazen rock
drowsy girder
#

been trying to get my SB to cast to focus target but its not working

#

#showtooltip StormBolt
/cast [target = focus] StormBolt

#

this is what i have right now

lucid walrus
#

storm bolt isn’t one word assuming that’s copied & pasted

quasi wagon
#

@autumn saffron Hitting the same issues, with a holy friend in 2s, I think I'm finding that it's better at least vs 1 healer 1 dps to try and go for single target burst as being able to sweeping strike them or blade storm the healer and the dps can be tricky. But i'm also bad.

lucid walrus
#

uncertain if there should be spaces with “target = focus” either, would look at that also

smoky anchor
iron fractal
smoky anchor
#

Also it's Storm Bolt not StormBolt

cinder thorn
sterile carbon
#

how do you think DHs will be after their nerf? trash or still ridiculous?

ocean shore
#

probably not noticable

lean mason
#

I dont think it's going to change much

sterile carbon
#

they seem wildly overtuned at the moment

iron fractal
wheat jay
#

will be mostly the same

hollow ore
#

so there is that

#

shit was as cancer as the dodge on blade dance in bfa

cinder thorn
wheat jay
#

huh

iron fractal
wheat jay
#

doesn't clear all dots

#

only disease and poisons

iron fractal
#

Yeah it removes some dots, but not all, and its 3 minutes.

wheat jay
#

and curse

#

no bleeds

iron fractal
#

3 Minutes is a long time between if you dont run with a pocket healer. 😅

cinder thorn
#

Reroll paladin then for immunity to everything

drowsy girder
#

i got it to work thanks

wheat jay
#

well

#

arms is supposed to play with healer

iron fractal
#

I know but I mostly play battlegrounds/ world pvp with friends. And being able to do a bit self reliant and not 100% bound to a healer is a bit more fun.

cinder thorn
#

Warrior has to play with healer its been the case since start of wow

cinder thorn
iron fractal
#

I am playing fury, but I do hop back to arms every now and then since I prefer the playstyle overall.

cinder thorn
#

This game by design leaves every class with something to be desired

You can't have a class that has it all

The closest is probably paladin or DH

iron fractal
#

Paladin was my main from classic, but I was never too fond when they introduced the holy power system.

cinder thorn
#

I often play alone with warrior and I know it sux but this class does perform so much better with a healer more than other classes

#

Yeah holy power made me stop playing paladin also

#

I tried it recently though and it grew on me

iron fractal
#

My friends play prot warrior and guardian druid when we screw around in pvp so going arms is screwing myself over.

wooden grove
#

Get your prot friend to go prot pal and just spend all his holy power on wog for you 😂

cinder thorn
#

Actually druid can heal also

#

Druid tank I'm fairly sure

iron fractal
#

Nah, the prot warrior runs off the second we get into trouble. And I usually only realise it once I'm going down and he's parachuted away.

wooden grove
#

Yeah but I feel like if they go out of bear they’ll get nuked

cinder thorn
iron fractal
#

Not a noob, just an asshole!

wooden grove
#

😂😂😂

cinder thorn
#

Yeah reminds me some of my friends

#

Some player play tanks because they're shit though and they're just more survivable also

Tell him I said that 😝

iron fractal
#

He's been playing prot paladin/ prot warrior since classic. And he can hold up really well when he wants too.

#

But he thinks its much more fun to tell me how he survived while I died trying to hold a flag.

#

You know.. like an asshole!

long ridge
#

do you need line of sight on war banner for it to work?

lean burrow
#

no

kindred viper
#

.< 7 games 0 rating gained, what's up with shuffle

mystic barn
#

win more

candid cradle
#

Really makes you reevaluate your life

tawny elm
#

does it happens sometimes for anyone else here that you feel bad for the opposite team losing in arenas sometimes?

lucid walrus
#

only if they're at a cr breakpoint

#

they queued themselves up

brazen rock
#

idk win 4 lose 2 gain 98 cr at 2100

sterile carbon
#

just had a 6winner, arms is feelin good right now cant wait for the fucking buffs

ember totem
#

Hows arms now?

brazen rock
#

strong with a good healer.

#

sharpen is very strong in SS

waxen gyro
#

Yo gamers. What’s the ideal arms pvp enchant. I’ve been playing fury the last few weeks but seen arms is getting good so wanting to go back to the proper spec but not sure what enchant to slap on my wep

brazen rock
#

sophic

sterile carbon
#

What's the point of continuing above 1.8k rating in solo shuffle? There's no more rewards right

brazen rock
#

2.4 for weapon mogs iirc and 100 wins at 2400+ for legend title.

#

also if your weird and just like shuffle for whatever reason

sterile carbon
#

Oh I see

#

Ye SS is fine but 35min queues aren't. Didn't realise weapon mogs were 2.4 though

wheat crane
kind fog
#

I really can't decide, fury or arms?

wheat crane
#

80-0d a dh

kind fog
#

I am having fun with both in 2v2s

coral axle
kind fog
#

It feels pretty strong tbh

zenith marlin
#

ok i resubbed

#

i have no spine

tawny elm
#

how do you people - that have a hard time to decide between arms and fury - do when it comes to gear/gem/enchants?

thick reef
#

Seeing a rise in arms warriors in solo shuffle which has been kinda nice. Its good having a free win.

cinder thorn
#

Guys what spells can get players out of spear of bastion? And does trinket work?

#

I need to know what classes can exit that zone

thick reef
#

I know Warlocks can port out

#

assuming monks can too

coral axle
#

Lock gate works, not sure about demon circle teleports

steel trout
#

mw can

thick reef
#

demon circle teleport does

steel trout
#

cloak works, netherwalk

sterile carbon
#

I had a DH get out of spear but no ide how

steel trout
#

netherwalk

#

and meta

coral axle
#

I don't think monk port works, my ww friend told me this morning you port but get sucked back in

dusk cargo
#

Sometimes locks get sucked back into it it’s so inconsistent

steel trout
#

mw monk works

thick reef
#

May have t obe a certain distance

steel trout
#

port works at certain distance gate always work

coral axle
#

There is apparently some way to glitch it, my DH friend said you can get out with a well timed dash

steel trout
#

yes right as it connects u dash out it works

thick reef
#

Looks like if you can get far enough away fast enough

coral axle
#

Dragons can deep breath out of it, although it also seems to suck them back sometimes

cinder thorn
#

Hmm thx

brazen rock
#

stand in center

#

use movement ability

#

wow ur out

#

ez

lucid walrus
thick reef
#

You thought warriors could have nice things? Doh ho ho ho

brazen rock
#

i mean

#

10.0.5 is beyond juicy for arms

thick reef
#

Ignore Pain being back alone is gold.
Assuming they dont nerf it.

#

Just you watch,. 50% debuff to MS in PvP

coral axle
#

Yeah if all those buffs make it through I'm p sure arms is top dog melee

thick reef
#

Still a bit away. And rogues also got buffed

#

I can very much see them doing huge arms nerfs for just pvp

coral axle
#

Didn't assa just get nerfed yesterday? Or whenever the recent balance change happened

#

I think outlaw too

thick reef
#

I just generally dont trust blizzard especcially in regards to warrior

coral axle
#

Guess it's on reset

#

Wasn't arms really good in SL?

lucid walrus
#

ridiculous the first 2 seasons

coral axle
#

Word, yeah I've barely played at all since legion but I feel like war usually has one really good pvp spec

brazen rock
#

warrior hasnt been bad...ever

#

like bad bad

lean mason
coral axle
#

There is an arena like that tho, the one with the ramps

lean mason
#

Yea but I just one big room with just nothing

#

small too

#

Fast and easy pz matches

#

Well. not ez

#

But hella fast

brazen rock
#

please no

#

tol viron is bad enough

lean mason
#

Ohh yea Viron.

#

But regardless I want the battle pup to be like the next arena

#

Because it's such a dope design

sharp meteor
#

mm yess a pillarless map how very horrible

wheat jay
#

Oh god that would suck xD

thick reef
#

Imagine a map that wasnt made to favor range.

#

mother of god

noble shale
#

trying to figure out an opening burst with warlords torment, unhinged and 3 points on spear (for 2s). what would you do differently? charge>avatar>warbreaker>MS>spear>sharpen>BS

wheat jay
#

Only 2 maps greatly favor rangee

sharp meteor
dusk cargo
#

Next map should be a pentagon that is charge range wide

sharp meteor
#

try to drop gate and zuggyboix already kicking my teeth in

coral axle
#

Is a map where you can charge gate to gate too much to ask for? It's not fair that I have to wait before being inside the shaman's asshole

muted surge
#

what trinkets do i use as human arms ?

#

badge and med i assume ?

green wyvern
#

badge and insignia

#

all in on damage

#

like a true hero

zenith marlin
#

all maps favor range

muted surge
#

cant tell if you are serious or not 🚯

zenith marlin
#

unless they are 5x5 without a pillar

muted surge
#

mhmmm matchmaking

image.png
steel trout
#

MMR INIT

coral axle
muted surge
#

maybe i should wait for the mmr changes keks

#

ye

coral axle
#

Yeah that's just what placement games look like

#

You start at 0 CR 1500 MMR and for 5 games it will sway wildly

muted surge
#

I SEE

#

im gaming on those nabs

image.png
#

arms is just broken :>

distant hearth
#

Arms is broken?

coral axle
#

💪

uncut token
#

Is Onslaught good in pvp? I see a lot of people running it.

torpid roost
#

Arms is okay, it'll be much better in 10.0.5

#

It will be able to zug harder

wheat jay
#

Well, arms gonna be strongest spec in the game again i guess xD

tribal wedge
#

damage will be disgusting
def is gonna be really good
best plate mobility

#

10.0.5 make us ssj

mystic barn
lean mason
#

So caster honestly dont have room too run

#

Then again.. So do everyone

mystic barn
#

wont be able to run from tyrant or pitlord or garg either

wheat jay
#

Pillars are not range to kite

#

But for melee to line

torpid roost
#

New arena: the blender

#

No getting out of melee range, both teams have an untargetable warrior bladestorming them at all times

#

Meatspin in the background optional but encouraged

lean mason
#

I can't bladestorm though

gentle horizon
#

for rn arms or fury?

coral axle
#

Whatever your heart tells you

mellow spoke
#

Should I sit in def stance 90%?

torpid roost
#

If you're being focused

red ether
#

sometimes you just have to sit d the whole time youre being focused

smoky anchor
#

No don't go in dstance unless u get focused and you're not bursting

tribal wedge
#

I use dstance only if my heale IS cc or to preshot a stun but thats all

smoky anchor
#

Yeah ideally you only go on def stance when you know a stun and go is coming, otherwise it might be better to just put pressure back

tribal wedge
#

I swapped to dtsance while il disarm too

#

Like i dont dps anyway sooo

smoky anchor
#

Just had a ss lobby with 3 locks, all 3 specs. Very surreal. It was actually very difficult.

long ridge
#

yeah locks are good

smoky anchor
#

Could not get a kill ended 2-4

#

Lock uses dark pact or whatever

#

Massive shield

#

Stick on him or swap

torpid roost
#

Locks are getting their dicks knocked into the dirt next patch

long ridge
#

good they deserve it

#

how do you guys deal w/ double dps as arms + healer

#

my healers always die

torpid roost
#

Wrecking throw and shit works really well against their shield but even that, under cooldowns, isn't enough

#

Blademaster's torment and unhinged, spin2win/cleave them

#

Unless bm/demo, where unhinged is useless

long ridge
#

i just did it and it worked on that team but

#

one i lost was arcane and fury war

#

can't really cleave ranged and melee, they kill my paladin w/ shatter

lean burrow
#

go mage

long ridge
#

word

#

i'll try it next time thank you

lunar moon
#

Hmmm

#

Any Horde get AGainst Overwhelming Odds quest this week?

tribal nimbus
#

anyone try prot warrior in 2s?

lunar moon
#

I have

#

its not that good

#

but My ilvl is also ~400

#

It dominated tank solo shuffle

#

sad they removed that shit

grand scaffold
#

how come high rated arms warrior in solo shuffle are playing without improved execute

#

isnt that a must?

lucid walrus
#

probably to pick up rend

grand scaffold
#

is that a good idea?

lucid walrus
#

i'm not gonna question their builds if they got that far tbh

grand scaffold
#

yea

lucid walrus
#

rend does do more instant damage than baseline slam while also applying a bleed

grand scaffold
#

would you use bloodborne if you had rend?

#

thats true

grand scaffold
lucid walrus
#

couldn't tell you tbh. this EP/battlelord build feels pretty solid

grand scaffold
#

even for solo shuffle?

lucid walrus
#

what's shuffle gotta do with it

grand scaffold
#

well

#

i find i have 0 uptime on executioners precision in solo shuffle

#

thats me tho