I mean you could use infusion on pvp gear
#pvp
smoky anchor
spiral totem
am I just dumb?
smoky anchor
Ya ur dumb
smoky anchor
Those aren't crafted gear
smoky anchor
Ya, primal infusions are for crafting
heavy basin
spiral totem
it literally says "Equip: increases item level to 421 in Arenas and Bgs"
I don't get it
spiral totem
smoky anchor
You asked "what are we doing for primal infused shit"
Primal infusions are for crafting gear at 411 or 421
Pve gear that is
The Drake breakers stuff is not primal infusions gear
spiral totem
yes sir
smoky anchor
In any case I get what you're asking now
Just grab whatever slots you don't have conquest on
Use your conquest on weapon and the Drake breakers 421 stuff on other slots where you still r using honor
There's a few pieces with ideal stats tho so depending on what spec you are target those
Like if you're arms get the crit pieces or fury get the haste
lucid walrus
i've tried to target slots that aren't tier while also filling in where i don't have conq stuff
smoky anchor
Yeah good move
lucid walrus
upgraded shoulders and belt this week because there aren't drakebreaker rings, so i bought those w/ conq
spiral totem
I'm currently rocking monkey fury, I've got one conquest weapon, should I perhaps get the primal infused weapon then?
like as the second?
lucid walrus
it's a good way to save 1800 conquest if you don't wanna gamble on vault
spiral totem
or should I aim for 2 pieces instead
Got weapon & ring atm for the conquest
sadly i'm forced to grab the pve gear from vault
smoky anchor
Apparently he drakebreaker stuff doesn't work in instanced pvp
spiral totem
ye setbonus doesnt
lucid walrus
yeah it doesn't
smoky anchor
Set bonuses
spiral totem
just talkin raw stats/ilvl atm
lucid walrus
sadly i'm forced to grab the pve gear from vault
definitely upgrade weapon then
spiral totem
definitely upgrade weapon then
aight bet
lucid walrus
just the most efficient way around conq budget rn
thick reef
Hey is there specific crafted PvP gear using the sparks?
grand scaffold
Hey is there specific crafted PvP gear using the sparks?
helmet and boots
they have infurious in the name
grand scaffold
Is it an upgrade in arena thing or is it just good?
it upgrades to 424 in arena
thick reef
Cool thanks
thick reef
So it’s comparable to conquest then? Like helps you fill some slots?
grand scaffold
yeah but the bonuses make it better
thick reef
Cool
smoky anchor
spriest nerf is m ore than 15%, again due to how percentages work
more than 10% i mean
100 * 1.15 * .75
effectively a 14% nerf to their damage
thick reef
yeah but the bonuses make it better
For the warboots is there a consensus on what to "infuse with power" ?
grand scaffold
just make the boots
i didnt infuse mine
still goes to 424 in pvp
the mats quality doesnt matter FROM WHAT IVE HEARD idk if thats true
thick reef
Oh ok no matter what its jumps to 424 in pvp anyways I guess.
tranquil hemlock
^^^
thick reef
So the infuse with power slot makes no difference then?
grand scaffold
yes
but thats from what i know
i dont craft gear i get other people to do it
😂
thick reef
I guess you can just recraft if you want to.
grand scaffold
what does that do
thick reef
I hope it’s not rare on my server I need some boots!
full quiver
undone pumice
i think hes african
lean mason
Hi I'm African
ToobadIcantgotherebecauseI'lldieirl
Wahooo
So Let's say me and this one Arm dude both spear each other inside of our circles.
What is the smartest solution to get out of this awkward situation? because This happen to me quite a couple
brazen night
lean mason
I can only bench around 225
lean mason
yeee I just need too get better
distant hearth
nah, just get reps on 225
zenith marlin
isnt 15% dmg reduc broken in event of a mirror fight in which the two enemy arms are targetting u
ur team looses 7.5% dmg
enemy team looses 10%
lumberjack vs lumberjack arenas got spicy
pearl prism
man u konw what
leavers dont bother me as much as ur doing solo
the other healer plays like a genius every round against u
then gets completely destroyerd when hes on your team
that shit
kills me
undone pumice
isnt 15% dmg reduc broken in event of a mirror fight in which the two enemy arms...
dstance should be bealanced around losing more dmg than it is strong defensively
undone pumice
how do i stop getting crit for 150k thunderfists
be fast on defensives vs ww is my advice
started trinket parrying wws instantlyand it helped me a lot
agile aspen
how do i stop getting crit for 150k thunderfists
wait for tuesday
smoky anchor
wait for tuesday
facts 40% nerf lmao
agile aspen
the set up for 150k crit is they cleaved slightly
mint osprey
frozen or sophic for fury?
distant bane
frozen is best for single
nimble jasper
how do i stop getting crit for 150k thunderfists
pets were nearby
torpid roost
PTR arena feels much better
Ignore pain cucks you on damage a good bit but christ the pressure is so much less (all of 2 matches, not statistically significant data exactly but it felt much better)
green wyvern
I dont think ignore pain cucks you on damage at all
nimble jasper
more as fury ig
green wyvern
you run Recklessness proc too
nimble jasper
but fuck fury
green wyvern
idk I never felt like ignore pain cucked me in SL
and we didnt have recklessness proc back then
brazen rock
green wyvern
yeah
torpid roost
I didn't play SL warrior, so no comment
also mutually exclusive with the parry heal, but, meh
wanton siren
Hello lads, could use some advice. I got a second weapon from vault but last week I developed tried arms after not really vibing too much with Fury. Also these new patch notes and tier imply arms will be stronger. Will both specs still be viable or will Arms just dominate? Gearing is not that easy to fix sadly
Hi MIke
undone pumice
ye we have too much rage not too little
mild thunder
Dude how are people complaining about ignore pain
We’ve literally gone from D tier to an incoming S this season
torpid roost
not complaining, I mentioned one negative and all the fucking retards in this cesspit started screaming NUHUHHHHHH UNGA BUNGA
but, it seems like an intended negative, and, it's fine, lmfao
mild thunder
But it’s not a negative lmao
Arms has an excess of rage
It literally doesn’t affect your damage
Unless you’re already playing the spec wrong
errant wolf
whay you think about the dstance buff? enough?
torpid roost
I must not be autoattacking hard enough
wasn't really playing in competitive matches, no comment on dstance, 10 for 15 though now
lucid walrus
2-week retirement 
torpid roost
oh is the patch not next week?
mild thunder
If anything, IP is an even further dps increase
torpid roost
Fucking boo
lucid walrus
it's the 23rd i think
there're /some/ changes coming this reset
just not the important ones
torpid roost
well, not linearly, it isn't, it's a buff to our ability to not run like a bitch, though
mild thunder
Because it gives us an off-GCD tactician generator, and a way of reducing BS and CS cool-downs faster
torpid roost
ergo, more damage in real circumstances
oh, you know what, good point
didn't consider tac
mild thunder
No, it literally is a dps increase
lucid walrus
yeah it's 2 seconds off of CS for free, off gcd, plus survivability
torpid roost
if you've got the rage outflow, which outside of execute I do
lucid walrus
constantly overcapped personally
torpid roost
though, seriously, I can run myself out of rage
wanton siren
So yall are all rocking arms then
mild thunder
Yes 
wanton siren
I tried both specs, arms gave me a satisfying oneshot on a monk though 
but I got the second weapon in vault so now im conflicted
torpid roost
yeah fury is.... too braindead for me
real junco
so what should we be buying with trophy of strife on fury?
wanton siren
For fury anything with haste or mastery
real junco
what slots would be optimal vs conquest
mild thunder
but I got the second weapon in vault so now im conflicted
It’s still pretty even now
But with the 10.0.5 buffs, fury is a dead spec
Zero reason to play it outside of “I’m a two-braincell idiot that can’t figure out how a rotation works”
wanton siren
I like fury in my first solo, got me 6 easy wins cause of unhealable dmg
then I got skyrocketed to 2.1 mmr and coudln't kill anything
mild thunder
Yea fury damage is shit
Outside of burst
Arms has higher sustained damage, better MS pressure, and burst out the wazoo
limber wagon
fellas, where can i find ignore pain on ptr ?
lucid walrus
choice node with storm wall
torpid roost
Zero reason to play it outside of “I’m a two-braincell idiot that can’t figure o...
Got 2 braincells and they're both duking it out for third place
limber wagon
choice node with storm wall
thanks
lucid walrus
yessir
distant bane
which weapons did u guys buy?
fury
i feel like greatsword is a pretty good purchase
torpid roost
got crit/vers sword in my vault but fury is the mast/vers polearm
mild thunder
Got 2 braincells and they're both duking it out for third place
Took every fiber in my being to not say retard.
People were complaining the other week
torpid roost
lol I'm pretty sure retard is kosher here
distant bane
im getting bloody tokens 2hander + conquest 2hander
424/421
and ill have 1200 more conquest to spend
not sure if i should grab armor pieces or trinks
mild thunder
lol I'm pretty sure retard is kosher here
It was like two weeks ago lmao, a bunch of people were having a sook that I call people retards. Not my fault it’s accurate
wanton siren
it's the og gamer term after all
graceful quarry
I think there are a lot more of those
torpid roost
I'm pretty sure the OG gamer term actually will get you removed from discord
graceful quarry
yeah
mild thunder
i already got suspended from wow for calling people retards
fair tide
random bgs can break my heart sometimes
smoky anchor
Are you always overpower x 2 going for burst
undone pumice
for true burstage
ideally you can charge, bolt when you connect, avatar,badge,bloodfury/fireblood/berserking, csmash, spear, 2x overpower, sharpen, ms
fair tide
kek
wanton siren
I did a quick sim on arms and it says that Haste will give me more dmg. I have 23% crit 15% haste atm
What are the thresholds to shoot for?
mild thunder
no real thresholds
but the general consensus is ~10% haste minimum, rest crit
dps sims are pointless for pvp
wanton siren
That's fair I just do it sometimes to get the general idea of secondary stats
But from the top players I've noticed they focus crit and then take haste/mastery randomly
cool
mild thunder
haste is useful, makes your rotation feel a bit more fluid but its mostly personal preference. I would never play with less than 10%, some people here play with like 2-4%
mastery is useless, completely avoid it
and no, mastery does not increase deep wounds damage
fair tide
haste feels nice for rage generation
wanton siren
I see, so the people who have mastery stuff got it from vault
mild thunder
haste feels nice for rage generation
crit increases rage gen just as much if not more
mild thunder
I see, so the people who have mastery stuff got it from vault
probably
fair tide
crit increases rage gen just as much if not more
I stopped stacking crit
felt too slow and rng for me
mild thunder
to each their own ig, but crit is the way most players are going and is the consensus for arms
fair tide
it's not that I dont stack any crit
but it's not a pure stat im stacking
having some haste feels good atm
mild thunder
thats literally what i recommended?
haste is useful, makes your rotation feel a bit more fluid but its mostly personal preference. I would never play with less than 10%, some people here play with like 2-4%
wanton siren
Im messing on the dummy, warrior is my alt you see
it's doing 3-5x more dmg per attack than fury
insane
fair tide
thats literally what i recommended?
*haste is useful, makes your rotation feel...
no ones arguing, just an opinion
I get what you said, I just don't prefer to stack pure crit
mild thunder
no one said to stack pure crit lmao
wanton siren
Crit lowers the cd of Warbreaker right?
mild thunder
no
fair tide
no one said to stack pure crit lmao
ok guy
wanton siren
something was reducing the cd 😂
mild thunder
yea, just spending rage
torpid roost
spending rage lowers the CD, haste generates/spends rage slightly faster
fickle forge
it's doing 3-5x more dmg per attack than fury
Power vs speed
mild thunder
spending rage lowers the CD, haste generates/spends rage slightly faster
crit generates just as much, if not more, rage than haste
its literally one of the major reasons crit is so important for arms
torpid roost
well these statements can not both be true and relevant simultaneously.
fair tide
just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave
mild thunder
they literally can
torpid roost
I just enjoy trolling this chat, they have to be... no, it's not that they have to be right, it's that you must be wrong at all times
mild thunder
how can you be this retarded? surely not
crit is important for arms because it 1. generates more rage, and 2. synergises with our crit damage bonuses
torpid roost
were you not saying you were rage overcapped generally before?
mild thunder
in pve, crit overtakes haste because it feeds our rage gen greater than haste generally can
torpid roost
If that wasn't you, apologies
mild thunder
and no, i wasnt
fair tide
how can you be this retarded? surely not
crit is important for arms because it ...
no-one argued it wasn't
torpid roost
well, then nevermind, troll targeted incorrectly
mild thunder
no-one argued it wasn't
no, but your statement "haste is good for rage-gen" is misleading
wanton siren
10% haste then full crit, sorry I started the brawl 😂
mild thunder
because crit, generally, is better for rage gen
fair tide
no, but your statement "haste is good for rage-gen" is misleading
how is it misleading?
torpid roost
more swings, more rage, crits also generate more rage
mild thunder
10% haste then full crit, sorry I started the brawl 😂
these idiots arent your fault
mild thunder
how is it misleading?
because it implies that crit doesnt increase rage-gen
torpid roost
my assertion would be closer to it lets you spend that overcapped rage faster
fair tide
not once was it implied that crit doesn't generate rage, wtf?
fickle forge
thought we were rage overcapped trolololol
Won't be with IP coming back 😎👍
torpid roost
the generation was, again, a mis-targeted troll
fickle forge
Arms S-tier again izi
mild thunder
my assertion would be closer to it lets you spend that overcapped rage faster
sure...? but the problem there is that we dont have anything to spend fast globals on to get rid of rage
torpid roost
Won't be with IP coming back 😎👍
don't say that, that's what started this whole shitshow, lmfao
mild thunder
greater haste doesnt let you dump rage
fickle forge
don't say that, that's what started this whole shitshow, lmfao
Literally true though
torpid roost
Right, which, since you DID NOT say that we're over-flooded with rage, then my counter-argument is irrelevant
fair tide
greater haste doesnt let you dump rage
wtf, now you're onto rage dump
torpid roost
you didn't say the dumb shit
so my making fun of you for saying the dumb shit
is null
mild thunder
wtf, now you're onto rage dump
omg, its almost like
there are other people
in this disc
you fucking retarded dipshit
torpid roost
he has everyone ignored except for you
fickle forge
IP is the rage dumpster button we need
fair tide
go in the corner
fickle forge
And the survivability fix we need
fair tide
it's time for a time-out
torpid roost
we don't need a rage dump, we need a not-die button, and.... yessssss it exists now
mild thunder
just please, do the world a favour, and learn how to fucking read
fair tide
ditto
fickle forge
You get both
torpid roost
I look dumb
it's time for a timeout!
fickle forge
Dumpstering rage is good for AM though
mild thunder
Dumpstering rage is good for AM though
2s off BS and CS w/o even wasting a GCD
is so giga
steep inlet
Won't be with IP coming back 😎👍
Also the double talents on slam
torpid roost
thank fucking god they went with it being off-gcd
fickle forge
Also the double talents on slam
Was considering that too
mild thunder
no fuck slam
wanton siren
just bind IP on all spells 😂
steep inlet
Nah it’s a good filler again
fickle forge
Slam modifiers are flooding
steep inlet
Too much Slam talents
torpid roost
I only tested that on the PTR on the training dummb but i wasn't.... I actually wasn't impressed?
mild thunder
even with all the modifiers
torpid roost
Slam didn't feel great
mild thunder
it does like half an unubffed ms
wanton siren
oof
steep inlet
It’s a filler
fickle forge
It's a filler so
torpid roost
yeah but it's an expensive filler
wanton siren
you normally don't spend talents into a filler
steep inlet
Yeah but it proc anger management
fickle forge
Might not be worth all the talent points
mild thunder
i dont think there's gonna be any real issue with greater emphasis on rend + IP
steep inlet
Rend succ
mild thunder
rend succ less when you can actually take bleed talents tho
torpid roost
I don't like rend either but uhh
steep inlet
Anyway so happy for Arms back
fickle forge
@elfin surge's a Rend boi
torpid roost
lmao
fickle forge
fuck mud
torpid roost
just use Rend as a filler
mild thunder
Dekel > Mud
fickle forge
wanton siren
Poor mud
undone pumice
dekel is deranged
isnt he british
mild thunder
that would make a lot of sense
steep inlet
US i think
mild thunder
makes even more sense
steep inlet
haha
mild thunder
i went into his stream and asked him one time if he was on classic because he was scared of versing mud
mans absolutely lost it
lucid walrus
LOL
undone pumice
what did he do
mild thunder
ranted for like 30 minutes
undone pumice
about mud being bad or him not statbugging
mild thunder
everything
undone pumice
undone pumice
bro started playing furu
mild thunder
"mud actually doesnt play classic because he ran away from ME"
"im the only good player left in wow"
"retail pros are all cheats"
etc etc
undone pumice
what
mild thunder
was pretty entertaining
undone pumice
bro juststarted saying words
steep inlet
wtf is this
what’s this ego
also mud is a lot stronger than him
Magnusz too
And a lot of others
mild thunder
average classic player
coping while playing a 15 year old game and saying it's good
undone pumice
also mud is a lot stronger than him
u mean bench check? or
wanton siren
Mud didn't approve of my war being worgen, shows how much he knows 😋
wanton siren
Should have been gnome in hindsight but werewolf cool
undone pumice
worgen is peepeepoopoo
speed good doe
wheat jay
Mud can't bench the bar
elfin surge
SHUT UP
distant bane
sure
muted surge
It’s funny how obsessed Dekel is with mud
distant bane
bloodrage/disarm/warbringer is a good combo for solos right?
undone pumice
swap every round depending on enemy
misty ruin
How do I compete against a warlock efficiently??
wheat jay
Curbstomp him with chonky mortals
outer parcel
yo weird question but i cant find anything on the internet, out of nowhere did i get suden lagspikes/ freezes and it only happend with my latest que. anyone know wtf is going on ?
internet/computer run fine on anything but ingame in pvp.
formal creek
Oh man imagine that d stance change was 15/15
pearl prism
how do you link your transmog outfit in game? u know how you can create a link?
mild thunder
Oh man imagine that d stance change was 15/15
arms is already gonna be S tier
doesnt really need more buffs now
any more buffs and we're just gonna get giga-nerfed
green wyvern
this dstance change is fine
you wont be punished as much for swapping dstance during high sustained dmg from dh/dk etc
torpid roost
ignore pain
then cause them pain, no have ignore pain because dead loser in tin can, zug zug
steep inlet
Arms will crush fucking DH DK SP rogue etc
with IP mitigating
And behind a fucking 130k ms
With a 160k execute
Guts Arms is back
Ignore pain
And destroy everyone
crimson onyx
Yoo!
Maybe not fully on topic, but do we have anyone who also has played warrior only and started alt healing? Never played healing at all but kinda would like to try it out. Have no idea what class is easiest to learn to someone not used to cast at all xD
formal creek
wait wait, we getting ignore pain?
crimson onyx
wait wait, we getting ignore pain?
Yeah in like a month
crude bane
did you guyz saw hotfix 10 jan ?
onyx vale
"Thunderfist damage reduced by 40% in PvP combat.
Skyreach increases critical strike chance by 30% in PvP combat (down from 50%).
Fists of Fury damage increased by 15% in PvP combat."
crude bane
they are new or some are on live currently
onyx vale
feelsgoodman
onyx vale
crude bane
going back to my warrior
feelschadman
everytime i rerol a class they get nerf
so tell me what you want i play
then they get nerf next patch
onyx vale
i suggest playing rogue until the end of time
crimson onyx
Sounds like you always swap to overtuned classes lol
crimson onyx
So there is your answer why 😄
distant bane
whats the general rotation for arms?
crude bane
take care guyz
distant bane
overpower -> ms?
crude bane
i gotchu
distant bane
whilst using buff on sharpen
crude bane
rerolling today
onyx vale
they are getting buffed
i don't want them buffed
because hpriest shouldnt be allowed to pvp
steep inlet
wtf
onyx vale
just like tank specs, beast master, arcane, ass rogue
onyx vale
did i forget any
crude bane
looks like the prevent
hotfix
thez wanted more sustain and they buff tiger palm and BK
they buffed again
shoulda reroll retpal ?
who diserv a nerf tell me
copper hare
Ret slaps, but it's probably awful to play without a premade healer
steep inlet
who diserv a nerf tell me
Fucking locks
crimson onyx
Maybe not fully on topic, but do we have anyone who also has played warrior (or melee) only and started alt healing in PvP? Never played healing at all but kinda would like to try it out. Have no idea what class is easiest to learn to someone not used to cast at all xD
steep inlet
DP buffed soon
crude bane
no chance
cause i reroll this afternon
a DP
Monk discord baby crying
i love this
mild thunder
xD
onyx vale
imagine surviving wod bfa and shadowlands to ragequit in dragonflight
I don't believe it
mild thunder
tbf the ww changes are unfair af
onyx vale
mild thunder
the class is dogshit outside of its burst
onyx vale
good
mild thunder
and buffing sustained damage does nothing when they're too squishy to stay in to do it
onyx vale
will teach them to steal our spells
delete all leather classes
to make a perfect world
onyx vale
it's a rat class, like all leather class
mild thunder
ww is gigachad
onyx vale
a rat class that stole mortal strike and improved hamstring
may they rot in D tier for the rest of their life
mild thunder
its not really stole if we still have it
onyx vale
yes it is
steep inlet
when no defensives up
pearl prism
Anyone else consistently getting 40 min queues despite it saying 10 mins? for solo shuffle?
crude bane
but i lose 2 timer not playing my warrior
onyx vale
now all you have to do is spend the 50 cds of rogue before they decide to one shot you or your team mate
crude bane
Anyone else consistently getting 40 min queues despite it saying 10 mins? for so...
its a traps reQ
otherwise you'll have some starter ppl
garrot improved reduce by 40 %
maaaan
distant bane
leaver change finally
distant bane
now leavers getting cheeks clapped
pearl prism
when does leaver change get implemented?
knotty tangle
wtf.. i did 2 solo shuffles..and im 2k mmr?
crude bane
kekw
knotty tangle
first one 1500, second one 1300...then boom 2k
muted surge
first one 1500, second one 1300...then boom 2k
They acknowledge your undeniable skill
crimson onyx
is healer insta q for solo?
i assume that is the only reason solo is so damn long? I was also like 30 min just now
knotty tangle
They acknowledge your undeniable skill
i played my DH lmao - i guess you are right
crystal harbor
What's the first stuff you lot buy with Conq?
knotty tangle
weapon
then anything that nots tier - pref trinket since u cant get socketed trinket from vault
and boots
will maybe leave u abit lower on the stat scale compered to others, but u might be full gear a lot faster than others
distant bane
what do u guys spam as an arms
undone pumice
mortal strike
distant bane
i feel like theyre slow af
undone pumice
if its not up the debuff
then execute
then ms for sheer dmg
then overpower if im not ragecapped
if i am slam
distant bane
colossus smash?
knotty tangle
you avatar charge spear warbreaker ms
dead
either u are, or they are
next game
undone pumice
basically your prios go:
hamstring if not debuffed
mortal strike if not debuffed
rend if not debuffed
execute
mortal strike
overpower if not high rage
slam if ragecapping
thats ur basic rotation
azure willow
ignore pain returns is a meme right ?
lean burrow
basically your prios go:
hamstring if not debuffed
mortal strike if not debuffe...
but ms is more damage with 1 stack
than execute
lean burrow
undone pumice
is it?
lean burrow
idk
undone pumice
knotty tangle
sl s1 type things
river furnace
anyone have a working avatar with CS macro?
undone pumice
ye cuz ur running bmt
river furnace
ya
undone pumice
need to run wlt if u wanna do it 1global
river furnace
makes sense, ill stick to the extra button then, thanks
eager mortar
distant bane
i go Charge -> colossus smash
then
then bladestorm afterwards
storm bolt if needed
sharpen blade / MS or spam execute like a mad man if target is low hp
cc healer
u guys go battle or defensive stance as arms?
broken tulip
is there any arms warr that goes crit>mast?
lean burrow
with ignore pain haste will probably become better than mastery
mild thunder
haste is already a lot better than mastery
mastery is literally just a pointless stat
only gives raw damage, and gives less than crit
distant bane
takes 5-10min for me
just farming elemental flows whilst waiting
so if i do 6-0 ill get a shit ton of points right?
3-0 means ill get 0?
kindred viper
20-30 min, win 4 gain 0 rating, back to queue :<
distant bane
i mean 3wins
distant bane
i got to 1150score on fury
then deranked to 996
now trying arms
so far 3 matches got me to 806
seems people already have almost full 421/424 sets
kinda hard to compete but i still out dps
undone pumice
it really depends on people's rating in ur lobby
ive lost 50 3-3 because ppl are 30 mmr lower
ive also won 30 2-4 because mmr was higher than mine
distant bane
so i should just do pvp non stop
and ill get my mmr up eventually
since its just rng
in solos
also those charge -> execute crits are insane
if they proc
pearl prism
1 hour 45 solo queue
crude bane
its maybe obvious but since im delisionnal
its 40 % over previous 30 %
or 40 % from 30 %
undone pumice
40% from previous nerfed value i think
crude bane
so its 10 % additonal nerf
undone pumice
modifier changes usually have a uhh a (was x%) at the end
steel trout
isnt that a different talent
last nerf was on strike on the windlord, thats the stacks u get that apply on autoattack after it i thought
torpid roost
MMR swings seem to weight streaks very heavily
distant bane
crude bane
the probleme with the leaver is that if you 0-3 and some1 leave you lost 3 game now
distant bane
crit and haste bit lacking
carmine hinge
does the PVE 4 set work in pvp ?
crimson onyx
For arms warrior, What weapon? 2h Sword or Polearm?
distant bane
polearm
crimson onyx
sweet
distant bane
versatility is priority
distant bane
crit is quite low compared to versa
between the two
i took polearm as well 😄
next week gonna be a dual wielding 424/421 gangster
pearl prism
I know most of u know
But ignore pain is back as talent for arms on PTR
for those who dont
May not stick tho, but so far its in PTR
distant bane
solo shuffle is damn good for honor level as well and getting those marks of honor
im probably gonna stick to arms
bright stream
decided to play some dk this weekend after an appalling couple of nights on fury
bright stream
why do I even bother with fury war? unholy is a real class fury is actual toilet
distant bane
out of all looks best to me
obsidian loom
pearl prism
2 hour 35 min solo queue
outer parcel
i wonder if we suddenly dont see DH anymore
steel trout
For arms warrior, What weapon? 2h Sword or Polearm?
2h
distant bane
can u deal with mage ice?
undone pumice
wot
distant bane
they get frozen and just heal up
distant bane
any talent for that arms?
undone pumice
shattering throw
steel trout
left side warrior tree
distant bane
ye now i see
distant bane
had a 45plate drop on my head
steel trout
undone pumice
weirdo doing olys
formal creek
30 min que for 10 rating is very brutal
pearl prism
nice
im playing at midnight in auystralia at 2.1k mmr
ive been in queue for 2 hours and 20 mins
no pop
distant bane
only +60 rating
weird
everyone was focusing me last round
no chance
if i see a hunter hes getting mortal striked for sure
distant bane
the damage is pretty insane
lol
dudes at 120k hp or whatever
gets 1shot
should i go avoidance or max speed?
for enchants
torpid roost
man, I actually have a fair bit of issue with arms warriors playing disc
which is weird because better/easier/burstier classes don't give me nearly the issue
river furnace
worth dropping unhinged vs pet heavy comps? dk/dh, demo etc?
torpid roost
opinion - but I say yes
river furnace
unreliable i find
torpid roost
shit gets misdirected to pets and random things so often
pearl prism
queue pop boys. 3 hours queue lol
river furnace
drop unhinged for executers precision?
torpid roost
thats what I did
river furnace
woudl you change out BMT foor warlords too?
agile crow
hey y'all prot main here, would you guys say that Arms or Fury is more fun for PVP
they're both about equally viable as I understand it
torpid roost
arms is slightly more viable and getting a hard buff
river furnace
fury more spammy, arms is more fun and will be better likely once ignore pain etc come
agile crow
alright I've been practicing arms so I guess I'll just stick with it
any advice?
sometimes I rek but sometimes I get absolutely smoked lol
torpid roost
any pattern to you getting rekt?
steep inlet
For now
torpid roost
nice mortal strike buff you got there qt
bright stream
ignore pain gonna fix everything
torpid roost
Ignore pain and the def stance buff together might do wonders
agile crow
am I supposed to stance dance?
torpid roost
yes
torpid roost
if you're being focused and there isn't a kill in the immediate future, defensive stance
bright stream
dstance until cds/in melee range most of the time
torpid roost
if you aren't, battle
undone pumice
@agile crow arms gaming gooder and cooler
agile crow
okay so like I said I'm a prot main, and I GUESS I was doing PVP all night last night in def stance
lmao
roast me
agile crow
but on a more serious note, I have the blue PVP 2H. should I use conquest on the Trinket first and then get the 2H?
agile crow
or save for 2H right away
distant bane
unless 2 fuckers target u and healer cant keep up lol
river furnace
think this would be okay vs pet heavy comps? DH/DK is wrecking me and SP currently
torpid roost
the 2h is the biggest piece but also is fuckspensive
undone pumice
low elo is fun af with arms
low elo arms charge swift 1 bangs are fun yes
distant bane
honor is quite fast in solo shuffles
hot solstice
agile crow
the 2h is the biggest piece but also is fuckspensive
I'm half there already
but I don't have the trinket
and people say it's important?
I have the blue CC trinket, talking about the buff badge
undone pumice
u want
2 pvp trinkets
so get the honor insig/emblem/badge
and save for conq wep
agile crow
okay cool that was my original plan, was just getting impatient saving for 2H lol
distant bane
should i go 2tier in arenas?
2set
looks like i didnt wear my 2nd piece all that time
undone pumice
tierset so op
cinder thorn
Are they gonna fix tier set for fury any one know?
lean mason
No
cinder thorn
So we stuck with execute bullshit?
amber harness
swapping arms and fury tset would be nice
arms execute resets
and fury passive dmg bonus
it could actually be a mistake 😄 since mortal strike becomes bloodthirst automatically if you change spec
lean mason
I'm just imagining mortal strike being blood thirst lol..
amber harness
well in classic both were your "cap stone" talents
pearl prism
guys any tips for solo shuffle when ur team just like camps and doesnt chase kill targets?
And you like have to just go back to ur healer and ur caster but they legit miss out of kill moments because they wont move?
I know you cant over extend, but just played a full 6 games where its just spriest/lock/healers just standing in the spawn zone and barely moving around the map
Do you guys just leap back to them and just literally just stand there for like 2 mins?
pearl prism
Not if healer and other dps doesnt come with you
lean burrow
e.g. you are off stun dr
pearl prism
Just played a game where they're legit playing it like a first person shooter. they played on this one pillar whole game and never chased a target
this is at about 2.2k
ive never seen anything like it, while a hunter ran off with no defensives and on 20% hp. No chase
I feel like im doing something wrong cause they both disagreed with me, but im pretty sure im in the right
lean burrow
go kill hunter or hit their healer then, idk
cinder thorn
Just played a game where they're legit playing it like a first person shooter. t...
This made me chuckle 😄
pearl prism
bro, they were like weaving in and out of this pillar
like if they showed their head theyd get one shot by the hunter
like a cs:go game
cinder thorn
Tbh once a channel starts like hunter machine gun it goes through pillar for some reason right maybe they scared of that
Is it meant to go through pillar shouldn't be interrupted if they lose sight of you?
pearl prism
na ur right, tis dumb to think they can play pillar against hunter
with an arms, you just go full aggressive on the hunter
keep him disarmed and slowed
I think some wizard cleave players are just safe playing like wizard cleave every round
cinder thorn
Did you lose that match in end or win
Because it sounds like ur team would have won anyway in dampening
pearl prism
I had to intervene back to healer
healer then got cc'd
then hunter came back and basically one tepped me
despite me getting his deterrence and him running away on 20% hp while their healer was cc'd
so yeah lost
I literally died on the other side of the map from where the hunter ran
if we had chased hunter, he would have come out of detterence with a stun on him and no defensives
but they were playing pillar with spriest and never moved form the one spot
dunno, just really fking frustrating
lean mason
Welcome to pvp
lean burrow
why does it sound like they stood in literally the same place?
pearl prism
yes thats the problem
lean mason
You going to have matches on people that have no idea what they are doing
Because most likely there first time doing arena or whatever
pearl prism
actually, maybe it was because of that map
the new map, with the wooden wall in the middle
if its like the normal maps the caster and healer doesnt need to move far
distant bane
when does pvp arenas become hard?
lean mason
I mean I get his point? Some arena does have advantages for other classes
quasi wagon
So... Arms PVP build running MS/Execute rather than bleed, Fatality vs Sharpened Blades, I'm leaning towards Fatality assuming they don't have a way to cleanse it
undone pumice
fuck fatality
quasi wagon
not a fan then lol
distant bane
what can i run similar to this
for shattering throw
as in what talent can i swap
in case theres a mage
or pala
undone pumice
remove fast footwork or piercing for shatter
quasi wagon
personally drop piercing verdict for it
but yeah Fatality feels so good to finally nail someone in a 2v2 healer and dps mirror
just not sure if worth
undone pumice
imo just use exploiter instead of fatality
quasi wagon
What's this?
undone pumice
executioners precision
quasi wagon
ahh okay
undone pumice
fatality can smd
i tried it and wanted to make it work
but its too inconsistant too little of a reward
quasi wagon
ha, sounds like you've very much been down the path I was looking at
that's kinda what I was trying to suss out... it's so tempting but not consistant
undone pumice
its not consistant
and not enough dmg
10k per stack for me in pvp
severely not worth
unhinged 282828x better
exploiter 282828x better
quasi wagon
ahhh interesting... so you can exploiter into BS using unhinged to get the benefit I guess
undone pumice
if u
dont need to cleave a lot
vs hybrid or double caster
drop blademasters torment for warlords torment in warrior tree
and unhinged for precision
torpid roost
Fatality only makes sense in like, 2v2 heal v heal
where you're likely going to be MSing someone 200 times then going for the kill
quasi wagon
@torpid roost this is primarily what I play
torpid roost
mmhmm
undone pumice
i tested vs a dummy
quasi wagon
duo with a healer, into other healer duo comps is where I found it to shine
undone pumice
i did my rotation until i had 350 mortal strikes cast
torpid roost
that's the only place I could see where it made sense
undone pumice
and i only got about 100 fatal marks
on the org pvp dummy
so it cant drop below 30%
not allowing more fatal mark applications
quasi wagon
was this with unhinged as well
quasi wagon
mmm sharpened blades is never one to drop then
undone pumice
not with spear build no
quasi wagon
I had been fannying about with unhinged and fatality
undone pumice
no
quasi wagon
that makes sense
undone pumice
shadadakap
thick reef
What a subbrick IQ take
thick reef
Sounds like a shitter problem to me lmao
undone pumice
true
quasi wagon
haha sure sure I just like understanding why things the way they are helps me make further decisions on what to take and when
undone pumice
i will update pins to include bis macro in 10.0.5
undone pumice
haha sure sure I just like understanding why things the way they are helps me ma...
ah yeah so basically mortal strike is so fucking good you take every talent that buffs it if not going a rend using build
quasi wagon
makes perfect sense ^^ don't play around the possibility of the big Fatality executes because you might not even reach them kinda deal
quasi wagon
10.5 baby \o/
undone pumice
bis macro for reference
get it ready in preparation boys
didnt this originate from bajheera 9.0 arms warrior macro guide?
undone pumice
do be kinda bis
wheat jay
Even better now with IP being on 1s cd
undone pumice
wot
wheat jay
Use this to win any game
quasi wagon
replace your MS with bis macro then :p ?
wheat jay
Wowhead tooltip states 1s cd iirc
undone pumice
thats cuz current ip is only on prot
where it has always been 1s
its prob gonna be smth lame like 6s or 8s and if were lucky its haste reduced like mortal or sksp used to be
full haste turbotank arms
near delta
It's 11 seconds in Tays video
undone pumice
ya so just sl ip
dense rover
Hello, I am completely new to retail wow as I have only played classic wow private servers since 2012. I am wanting to only do 100% pvp here on retail as a warrior. I have a few questions if that is okay.
- I see that there was some buffs/nerfs to classes recently as of yday, how are fury or arms warrior in PvP now?
- I have a lvl 65 priest, shadow priest is also quite tempting, but i see they got nerfed a lot. How are warriors in terms of how strong they are in pvp vs current shadow priests? Is there ab ig difference?
- Is it fun to play warriors in PvP? How is the playstyle?
undone pumice
arms good
shadow priest still very good
warrior is fun, but thats entirely subjective
playstyle is keeping important debuffs up
like mortal strikez hamstring, and if talented rend
while having strong burst windows you can stack up overpower for in preparation
thats for arms at least